Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting

2000-10-03 Thread Aaron Zuercher

I believe you can put quotes around the directory so in this case it would be:

cd /mnt/windows/"Program Files"

Aaron



At 07:10 AM 10/2/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Have you tried this one yet?
>
> cd /mnt/windows/progra~1
> (progra~1) is what you will need to get there.
>
>--
>Mark
>
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>
>On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:29pm ,John Rye spake passionately in a  message:
>
> > Goldenpi wrote:
> > >
> > > Sound like me. My obsession with getting every possable flop from my
> > > notebook is getting me in deep to windows 98. I have even gone to the 
> length
> > > of removeing the icon for c:\mydocu~1 to save the time loading up. I have
> > > gone so far as to disable the warning that appears when the wiondows 
> folder
> > > is opened. Today I had it apart while I put in a new processor. Its
> > > underclocked right now because it was overheating a bit. I actually 
> renamed
> > > c:\my documents to c:\my_docs-and then edited the registry, ini files,
> > > everything so that windows wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I 
> have
> > > moved as much as possable out of the windows folder. It is now the 
> fastest
> > > (former) pentium 133Mhz with 16mi ram and 1gi hd you are likely to 
> find. It
> > > is currently running at 166 but is rated for 200 when I solve the cooling
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > oh, how to I get to c:\Program files in a linux console? I have tried 
> every
> > > command I can think of.
> >
> > did you try: 'cd /Program?Files', remember that white space in a
> > filename
> > is legal in MACos and Windows but in few others..
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:45 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting
> > >
> > > > term hacker to me refers to a devoted computer user who loves to 
> tweak and
> > > > modify and know everything about the system and to get everything 
> out of
> > > it
> > > > they possibly can from performance to information, the fact that 
> the GOV
> > > and
> > > > large companys dont like it well i cant help that we want to learn 
> about
> > > the
> > > > system and they just happen to be part of it!!!
> > > >
> > > > just my opinion
> > > >
> >
> >





Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting

2000-10-02 Thread Goldenpi

Will try it later. my linux box is currently sans processor, due to the
laptop.

- Original Message -
From: "John Rye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting


> Goldenpi wrote:
> >
> > Sound like me. My obsession with getting every possable flop from my
> > notebook is getting me in deep to windows 98. I have even gone to the
length
> > of removeing the icon for c:\mydocu~1 to save the time loading up. I
have
> > gone so far as to disable the warning that appears when the wiondows
folder
> > is opened. Today I had it apart while I put in a new processor. Its
> > underclocked right now because it was overheating a bit. I actually
renamed
> > c:\my documents to c:\my_docs-and then edited the registry, ini files,
> > everything so that windows wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I
have
> > moved as much as possable out of the windows folder. It is now the
fastest
> > (former) pentium 133Mhz with 16mi ram and 1gi hd you are likely to find.
It
> > is currently running at 166 but is rated for 200 when I solve the
cooling
> > problem.
> >
> > oh, how to I get to c:\Program files in a linux console? I have tried
every
> > command I can think of.
>
> did you try: 'cd /Program?Files', remember that white space in a
> filename
> is legal in MACos and Windows but in few others..
>
> Cheers
>
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting
> >
> > > term hacker to me refers to a devoted computer user who loves to tweak
and
> > > modify and know everything about the system and to get everything out
of
> > it
> > > they possibly can from performance to information, the fact that the
GOV
> > and
> > > large companys dont like it well i cant help that we want to learn
about
> > the
> > > system and they just happen to be part of it!!!
> > >
> > > just my opinion
> > >
>
> --
> ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected"
> (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
>
>





Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting

2000-10-02 Thread Mark Weaver

Have you tried this one yet?

cd /mnt/windows/progra~1
(progra~1) is what you will need to get there.

-- 
Mark

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On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:29pm ,John Rye spake passionately in a  message:

> Goldenpi wrote:
> > 
> > Sound like me. My obsession with getting every possable flop from my
> > notebook is getting me in deep to windows 98. I have even gone to the length
> > of removeing the icon for c:\mydocu~1 to save the time loading up. I have
> > gone so far as to disable the warning that appears when the wiondows folder
> > is opened. Today I had it apart while I put in a new processor. Its
> > underclocked right now because it was overheating a bit. I actually renamed
> > c:\my documents to c:\my_docs-and then edited the registry, ini files,
> > everything so that windows wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I have
> > moved as much as possable out of the windows folder. It is now the fastest
> > (former) pentium 133Mhz with 16mi ram and 1gi hd you are likely to find. It
> > is currently running at 166 but is rated for 200 when I solve the cooling
> > problem.
> > 
> > oh, how to I get to c:\Program files in a linux console? I have tried every
> > command I can think of.
> 
> did you try: 'cd /Program?Files', remember that white space in a
> filename
> is legal in MACos and Windows but in few others..
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting
> > 
> > > term hacker to me refers to a devoted computer user who loves to tweak and
> > > modify and know everything about the system and to get everything out of
> > it
> > > they possibly can from performance to information, the fact that the GOV
> > and
> > > large companys dont like it well i cant help that we want to learn about
> > the
> > > system and they just happen to be part of it!!!
> > >
> > > just my opinion
> > >
> 
> 





Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting

2000-10-01 Thread John Rye

Goldenpi wrote:
> 
> Sound like me. My obsession with getting every possable flop from my
> notebook is getting me in deep to windows 98. I have even gone to the length
> of removeing the icon for c:\mydocu~1 to save the time loading up. I have
> gone so far as to disable the warning that appears when the wiondows folder
> is opened. Today I had it apart while I put in a new processor. Its
> underclocked right now because it was overheating a bit. I actually renamed
> c:\my documents to c:\my_docs-and then edited the registry, ini files,
> everything so that windows wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I have
> moved as much as possable out of the windows folder. It is now the fastest
> (former) pentium 133Mhz with 16mi ram and 1gi hd you are likely to find. It
> is currently running at 166 but is rated for 200 when I solve the cooling
> problem.
> 
> oh, how to I get to c:\Program files in a linux console? I have tried every
> command I can think of.

did you try: 'cd /Program?Files', remember that white space in a
filename
is legal in MACos and Windows but in few others..

Cheers 

> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting
> 
> > term hacker to me refers to a devoted computer user who loves to tweak and
> > modify and know everything about the system and to get everything out of
> it
> > they possibly can from performance to information, the fact that the GOV
> and
> > large companys dont like it well i cant help that we want to learn about
> the
> > system and they just happen to be part of it!!!
> >
> > just my opinion
> >

-- 
ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected"
(The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)





Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting

2000-10-01 Thread Mwinold

it should already be mounted or atleast mine was when i installed linux,
try cd /mnt/windows/Program%Files
im not sure about the % it is only because unix based systems dont recognize 
spaces in a folder name


In a message dated 01-Oct-00 16:48:35 Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Mount the C drive under Linux, "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/disk" and then go to 
it by
 typing "cd /mnt/disk/"Program Files""
 
 > oh, how to I get to c:\Program files in a linux console? I have tried every
 > command I can think of.
 >  >>




Re: [newbie] hacker or cracker was: Telneting

2000-10-01 Thread Vic

Oh yeah, eesh, I almost forgot, when I was a
windoze user, I heard the term hacker used
and I thought it meant devoted programmer,
which I was used to hearing in my unix days
(I was only 5 but learning, then  my dad 
changed computer systems, no more unix,
for a long time-- DOH!)

and I heard "hacker" being used in the 
"wrong" way and I soon learned that
in the windoze world, it is used to mean
cracker, just as -- yech!! "software author"
is used to mean -- ahem -- *Programmer*.

Just my opinion, but I can't stand it when
someone calls a programmer a 
"software author" it is demeaning.

anyway back to some hacking??

Gotta learn some more C---

On Sun, 01 Oct 2000, Mark Weaver wrote:
> You are both very correct, however, I used to the term "hacker" because
> this "is" a newbie list and most people readily understand the term more
> quickly than they do "cracker." 
> 
> -- 
> Mark
> 
> **  =/\=  No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299
> ** <_||_> in the making of this   |
> **  =\/=  message...  | Registered Linux user #182496
> 
> 
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Austin L. Denyer wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > > Sorry for butting in with a dumb question,
> > > isn't a hacker, like you said, a very passionate
> > > and devoted programmer - BUT
> > >
> > > Isn't a *cracker* is someone who breaks into
> > > computers maliciously?
> > >
> > > Please update my database if the info
> > > I typed is not correct.
> > 
> > You are correct Sir.  I just wish that more people (especially the mass
> > media) could understand the difference...
> > 
> > A hacker can be justifiably proud of himself.
> > 
> > A cracker is generally a wannabe hacker, but without the skills to make the
> > grade.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Ozz.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >