Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-14 Thread Mike Fieschko

>>> "Josh" == Josh McCaffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>  I started
Josh> recompiling the kernel a couple of times, and each time it
Josh> failed (I forget why) after choosing to save the new kernel,
Josh> so in /usr/src there are "linux-2.2.13" and
Josh> "linux-2.2.13.old" folders, and the 2 files generated by
Josh> make menuconfig (one is .old) So should I delete these extra
Josh> files and start again from the beginning?  Thanks!  -Josh
>>  What kernel are you running now (output of 'uname -r')?

Josh> 2.2.13-7mdk -Josh

Sounds top me that you may safely delete the directory
"linux-2.2.13.old" and its contents.

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Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-14 Thread Mark Fitzgerald

Morris Walton wrote:
> 
> some form of the ps command i suppose
> 
> Morris Walton wrote:
> >
> > Is there an easy way (ie command-line) to see what processes are
> > eating into cpu occupancy?

Click the K / then System / then taskmanager, It Will give you some
info on what is running, performance and so on.

Mark


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RE: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-14 Thread Warren Rowe

You can turn virtual screens off if you use xf86config or rather it gives 
the option of using a virtual screen when you set the resolutions that are 
available for each colour depth.

xf86config is not a GUI it is text based and offers more options than 
Xconfigurator.

-Original Message-
From:   Josh McCaffrey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   13 January 2000 18:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

Try "Xconfigurator" at the command prompt.  After you choose your video 
card,
monitor specs, etc., try choosing more than one resolution, then later, you 
can
switch resolutions by hitting  <+>.  Use the (+) on the num pad.
Mine is set at 1024x768 and 800x600, but whenever I switch to 800x600, I 
get a
"virtual screen", which may be what you're describing.  eg: if you move the
mouse past the edge of your desktop, you can see the rest of it, but not 
all at
once?  I don't care for the virtual screen either.
-Josh

JAMIL HUSSAIN wrote:

> josh
>
> i installed linux on my machine, but the resolution is set incorrectly, i
> cant see all the screen, what caommand do i use to change the res.
>
> >From: Josh McCaffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??
> >Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:13:41 +
> >
> >
> >I think it all depends on how much extra support is compiled into your
> >kernel that you're not using or maybe during install when you chose
> >services you want started at boot time you chose alot you're not using
> >either.  Linux takes a little tweaking to get type of setup you want, 
but
> >it's very flexible, and once you're happy w/ your performance, you can 
bet
> >the farm nothing is going to change unless you change it or your HDD 
gets
> >killed.  You just have to do some reading, and mess around a little to 
get
> >desired results.  There has never been any intention to make Linux 
perform
> >well for everybody straight out of the box.
> >Viel Gluck!
> >-Josh
> >
> >Hugh Semmler wrote:
> >
> > > Well I cant speak for anybody else , But my computer runs at least
> > > twice as fast as win98.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, you wrote:
> > > > i have mandrake 6.1 and i have win98se.
> > > > i use win98se quite alot and i found that it is much faster then 
linux
> > > > is that meant to be the case??
> > > > the kernel installed is 2.2.13.22mdk
> > > >
> > > > michael dolan
> > > --
> > > "I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere."
>
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RE: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-14 Thread Warren Rowe

Xconfigurator or xf86config

-Original Message-
From:   JAMIL HUSSAIN [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   13 January 2000 18:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

josh

i installed linux on my machine, but the resolution is set incorrectly, i 
cant see all the screen, what caommand do i use to change the res.






>From: Josh McCaffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??
>Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:13:41 +
>
>
>I think it all depends on how much extra support is compiled into your
>kernel that you're not using or maybe during install when you chose
>services you want started at boot time you chose alot you're not using
>either.  Linux takes a little tweaking to get type of setup you want, but
>it's very flexible, and once you're happy w/ your performance, you can bet
>the farm nothing is going to change unless you change it or your HDD gets
>killed.  You just have to do some reading, and mess around a little to get
>desired results.  There has never been any intention to make Linux perform
>well for everybody straight out of the box.
>Viel Gluck!
>-Josh
>
>Hugh Semmler wrote:
>
> > Well I cant speak for anybody else , But my computer runs at least
> > twice as fast as win98.
> >
> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, you wrote:
> > > i have mandrake 6.1 and i have win98se.
> > > i use win98se quite alot and i found that it is much faster then linux
> > > is that meant to be the case??
> > > the kernel installed is 2.2.13.22mdk
> > >
> > > michael dolan
> > --
> > "I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere."

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Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread Josh McCaffrey

> 

> I started
> Josh> recompiling the kernel a couple of times, and each time it
> Josh> failed (I forget why) after choosing to save the new kernel,
> Josh> so in /usr/src there are "linux-2.2.13" and
> Josh> "linux-2.2.13.old" folders, and the 2 files generated by
> Josh> make menuconfig (one is .old) So should I delete these extra
> Josh> files and start again from the beginning?  Thanks!  -Josh
>
> What kernel are you running now (output of 'uname -r')?

2.2.13-7mdk
-Josh





Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread John

type "top"
- Original Message -
From: Morris Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??


> Is there an easy way (ie command-line) to see what processes are
> eating into cpu occupancy?
>
> morris
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> >
> > Elizabeth/michaeljust a guess, but did you use lnx4win to
> > install Linux?  If so, then a "real" installation (where Linux
> > has it's own partitions on the hard drive) of Linux will greatly
> > speed up the system performance.  On the other hand if my guess
> > was wrong, here's another guess.  Do you possibly have services
> > running that you are not using.  These extra services can take
> > up resources unnecessarily and slow things down as well.  This
> > could apply even if my first guess was correct.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > Elizabeth Dolan wrote:
> > >
> > > i have mandrake 6.1 and i have win98se.
> > > i use win98se quite alot and i found that it is much faster then linux
> > > is that meant to be the case??
> > > the kernel installed is 2.2.13.22mdk
> > >
> > > michael dolan



Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread Morris Walton

some form of the ps command i suppose


Morris Walton wrote:
> 
> Is there an easy way (ie command-line) to see what processes are
> eating into cpu occupancy?
> 
> morris
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> >
> > Elizabeth/michaeljust a guess, but did you use lnx4win to
> > install Linux?  If so, then a "real" installation (where Linux
> > has it's own partitions on the hard drive) of Linux will greatly
> > speed up the system performance.  On the other hand if my guess
> > was wrong, here's another guess.  Do you possibly have services
> > running that you are not using.  These extra services can take
> > up resources unnecessarily and slow things down as well.  This
> > could apply even if my first guess was correct.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > Elizabeth Dolan wrote:
> > >
> > > i have mandrake 6.1 and i have win98se.
> > > i use win98se quite alot and i found that it is much faster then linux
> > > is that meant to be the case??
> > > the kernel installed is 2.2.13.22mdk
> > >
> > > michael dolan



Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread Morris Walton

Is there an easy way (ie command-line) to see what processes are
eating into cpu occupancy?

morris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> Elizabeth/michaeljust a guess, but did you use lnx4win to
> install Linux?  If so, then a "real" installation (where Linux
> has it's own partitions on the hard drive) of Linux will greatly
> speed up the system performance.  On the other hand if my guess
> was wrong, here's another guess.  Do you possibly have services
> running that you are not using.  These extra services can take
> up resources unnecessarily and slow things down as well.  This
> could apply even if my first guess was correct.
> 
> Alan
> 
> Elizabeth Dolan wrote:
> >
> > i have mandrake 6.1 and i have win98se.
> > i use win98se quite alot and i found that it is much faster then linux
> > is that meant to be the case??
> > the kernel installed is 2.2.13.22mdk
> >
> > michael dolan



Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Elizabeth/michaeljust a guess, but did you use lnx4win to
install Linux?  If so, then a "real" installation (where Linux
has it's own partitions on the hard drive) of Linux will greatly
speed up the system performance.  On the other hand if my guess
was wrong, here's another guess.  Do you possibly have services
running that you are not using.  These extra services can take
up resources unnecessarily and slow things down as well.  This
could apply even if my first guess was correct.

Alan


Elizabeth Dolan wrote:
> 
> i have mandrake 6.1 and i have win98se.
> i use win98se quite alot and i found that it is much faster then linux
> is that meant to be the case??
> the kernel installed is 2.2.13.22mdk
> 
> michael dolan



Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread Mike Fieschko

>>> "Josh" == Josh McCaffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Josh> Seth Gibson wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Josh McCaffrey wrote: > desired results.
>> There has never been any intention to make Linux perform > well
>> for everybody straight out of the box.  Tho i think we are
>> seeing that change more and more with Things like lizard and
>> such. . .me personally, when i installed mdk the first time it
>> worked great. .  .of course alot of my hardware is so old,
>> linux was probably very happy with my machine(:-D

Josh> Yeah, me, too!  If I did have W98 on my box, I'm sure I
Josh> would see a real drag in performance.  I have not built a
Josh> new kernel yet due to time constraints, and the fact that
Josh> L-M 6.1 has performed very nicely for me out of the box.
Josh> I'm sure that when I do trim down the stock kernel that I
Josh> could free up some memory.  On that note, I started
Josh> recompiling the kernel a couple of times, and each time it
Josh> failed (I forget why) after choosing to save the new kernel,
Josh> so in /usr/src there are "linux-2.2.13" and
Josh> "linux-2.2.13.old" folders, and the 2 files generated by
Josh> make menuconfig (one is .old) So should I delete these extra
Josh> files and start again from the beginning?  Thanks!  -Josh

What kernel are you running now (output of 'uname -r')?

On tuneup generally, try

http://www.portico.org/categories/

http://linuxperf.nl.linux.org/

http://www.linux.com/tuneup/

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Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread Josh McCaffrey

Seth Gibson wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Josh McCaffrey wrote:
> > desired results.  There has never been any intention to make Linux perform
> > well for everybody straight out of the box.
> Tho i think we are seeing that change more and more with Things like lizard and
> such. . .me personally, when i installed mdk the first time it worked great. .
> .of course alot of my hardware is so old, linux was probably very happy with my
> machine(:-D

Yeah, me, too!  If I did have W98 on my box, I'm sure I would see a real drag in
performance.  I have not built a new kernel yet due to time constraints, and the
fact that L-M 6.1 has performed very nicely for me out of the box.  I'm sure that
when I do trim down the stock kernel that I could free up some memory.  On that
note, I started recompiling the kernel a couple of times, and each time it failed
(I forget why) after choosing to save the new kernel, so in /usr/src   there are
"linux-2.2.13" and "linux-2.2.13.old" folders, and the 2 files generated by make
menuconfig (one is .old)
So should I delete these extra files and start again from the beginning?
Thanks!
-Josh



Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread Josh McCaffrey

Try "Xconfigurator" at the command prompt.  After you choose your video card,
monitor specs, etc., try choosing more than one resolution, then later, you can
switch resolutions by hitting  <+>.  Use the (+) on the num pad.
Mine is set at 1024x768 and 800x600, but whenever I switch to 800x600, I get a
"virtual screen", which may be what you're describing.  eg: if you move the
mouse past the edge of your desktop, you can see the rest of it, but not all at
once?  I don't care for the virtual screen either.
-Josh

JAMIL HUSSAIN wrote:

> josh
>
> i installed linux on my machine, but the resolution is set incorrectly, i
> cant see all the screen, what caommand do i use to change the res.
>
> >From: Josh McCaffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??
> >Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:13:41 +
> >
> >
> >I think it all depends on how much extra support is compiled into your
> >kernel that you're not using or maybe during install when you chose
> >services you want started at boot time you chose alot you're not using
> >either.  Linux takes a little tweaking to get type of setup you want, but
> >it's very flexible, and once you're happy w/ your performance, you can bet
> >the farm nothing is going to change unless you change it or your HDD gets
> >killed.  You just have to do some reading, and mess around a little to get
> >desired results.  There has never been any intention to make Linux perform
> >well for everybody straight out of the box.
> >Viel Gluck!
> >-Josh
> >
> >Hugh Semmler wrote:
> >
> > > Well I cant speak for anybody else , But my computer runs at least
> > > twice as fast as win98.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, you wrote:
> > > > i have mandrake 6.1 and i have win98se.
> > > > i use win98se quite alot and i found that it is much faster then linux
> > > > is that meant to be the case??
> > > > the kernel installed is 2.2.13.22mdk
> > > >
> > > > michael dolan
> > > --
> > > "I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere."
>
> __
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Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread JAMIL HUSSAIN

josh

i installed linux on my machine, but the resolution is set incorrectly, i 
cant see all the screen, what caommand do i use to change the res.






>From: Josh McCaffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??
>Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:13:41 +
>
>
>I think it all depends on how much extra support is compiled into your
>kernel that you're not using or maybe during install when you chose
>services you want started at boot time you chose alot you're not using
>either.  Linux takes a little tweaking to get type of setup you want, but
>it's very flexible, and once you're happy w/ your performance, you can bet
>the farm nothing is going to change unless you change it or your HDD gets
>killed.  You just have to do some reading, and mess around a little to get
>desired results.  There has never been any intention to make Linux perform
>well for everybody straight out of the box.
>Viel Gluck!
>-Josh
>
>Hugh Semmler wrote:
>
> > Well I cant speak for anybody else , But my computer runs at least
> > twice as fast as win98.
> >
> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, you wrote:
> > > i have mandrake 6.1 and i have win98se.
> > > i use win98se quite alot and i found that it is much faster then linux
> > > is that meant to be the case??
> > > the kernel installed is 2.2.13.22mdk
> > >
> > > michael dolan
> > --
> > "I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere."

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Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread Seth Gibson

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Josh McCaffrey wrote:
> desired results.  There has never been any intention to make Linux perform
> well for everybody straight out of the box.
Tho i think we are seeing that change more and more with Things like lizard and
such. . .me personally, when i installed mdk the first time it worked great. .
.of course alot of my hardware is so old, linux was probably very happy with my
machine(:-D



Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread Mark Fitzgerald

Hi,

Win and Linux .. speend.

Linux is much faster the win98 on my
box.

Mark

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Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread Josh McCaffrey


I think it all depends on how much extra support is compiled into your
kernel that you're not using or maybe during install when you chose
services you want started at boot time you chose alot you're not using
either.  Linux takes a little tweaking to get type of setup you want, but
it's very flexible, and once you're happy w/ your performance, you can bet
the farm nothing is going to change unless you change it or your HDD gets
killed.  You just have to do some reading, and mess around a little to get
desired results.  There has never been any intention to make Linux perform
well for everybody straight out of the box.
Viel Gluck!
-Josh

Hugh Semmler wrote:

> Well I cant speak for anybody else , But my computer runs at least
> twice as fast as win98.
>
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, you wrote:
> > i have mandrake 6.1 and i have win98se.
> > i use win98se quite alot and i found that it is much faster then linux
> > is that meant to be the case??
> > the kernel installed is 2.2.13.22mdk
> >
> > michael dolan
> --
> "I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere."



Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread Hugh Semmler

Well I cant speak for anybody else , But my computer runs at least
twice as fast as win98.


On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, you wrote:
> i have mandrake 6.1 and i have win98se.
> i use win98se quite alot and i found that it is much faster then linux
> is that meant to be the case??
> the kernel installed is 2.2.13.22mdk
> 
> michael dolan
-- 
"I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere."



[newbie] is linux meant to be slow??

2000-01-13 Thread Elizabeth Dolan

i have mandrake 6.1 and i have win98se.
i use win98se quite alot and i found that it is much faster then linux
is that meant to be the case??
the kernel installed is 2.2.13.22mdk

michael dolan