Re: [newbie] kppp questions

2003-06-05 Thread Robin Turner
Well, I solved the login on startup problem with a simple workaround - 
changed from kppp to wvdial.  In case anyone's interested, here's a 
mini-howto.

1. Become root

2. Install wvdial
$ urpmi wvdial
3. Generate the configuration file

$ cd /etc
$ wvdialconf wvdial.conf
(note there is a dot in the second one, not the first)
4. Make wvdial.conf writable (they don't tell you this in the man pages!)

5. Edit wvdial.conf, filling in your username, password and the number 
you dial into.  If you want any other options, see man wvdial.conf.

6. If your ISP requires that you specify the IP number of its 
nameserver, edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_resolv.default to 
include the line:
nameserver 139.179.10.13
(changing the number, of course)
Note: do not edit /etc/resolv.conf, as this gets overwritten at boot time.

7. If you want automatic login at boot time, add a line to /etc/inittab like
mine:2345:respawn:/usr/bin/wvdial
(there's probably a more elegant way to do this by making wvdial a 
service and putting it in one of the rc files)

8. Don't do any of the above if you have a pay-by-the-minute connection ;-)

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] kppp questions

2003-06-04 Thread Robin Turner
John Rye wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 01:55:27 +0100
Robin Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've been playing around with kppp. Two questions:

1. Are my frequent Mozilla crashes anything to do with the fact that I
now have it opening on connect rather than manually?


Are these 'crashes' or disconnects? If disconnects edit your
/etc/ppp/options as follows (man pppd for details):
lock# prevents other connects to the modem
noauth# prevents authentication requests
defaultroute# sets the current route to the IP
lcp-max-configure 25 # this one helps with slow logon handshakes
ipcp-accept-local   # accepts local ip address as set by ISP
ipcp-accept-remote   # as above for remote address
idle 600  # time in seconds before automatic hangup
debug# Can't remember this one , bugger:-))
They're crashes; Moz dies but the ppp connection stays up. Thanks for 
the info, anyway.

Sir Robin

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fires you."
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Re: [newbie] kppp questions

2003-06-04 Thread John Rye
On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 01:55:27 +0100
Robin Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been playing around with kppp. Two questions:
> 
> 1. Are my frequent Mozilla crashes anything to do with the fact that I
> now have it opening on connect rather than manually?

Are these 'crashes' or disconnects? If disconnects edit your
/etc/ppp/options as follows (man pppd for details):

lock# prevents other connects to the modem
noauth# prevents authentication requests
defaultroute# sets the current route to the IP
lcp-max-configure 25 # this one helps with slow logon handshakes
ipcp-accept-local   # accepts local ip address as set by ISP
ipcp-accept-remote   # as above for remote address
idle 600  # time in seconds before automatic hangup
debug# Can't remember this one , bugger:-))


> 
> 2.  Is there a way to get kppp to connect on startup?

Not sure - I prefer to run it when I need it.

John nz

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Re: [newbie] kppp questions

2003-06-04 Thread Robin Turner
ed tharp wrote:
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 17:31, Robin Turner wrote:

Brian Parish wrote:

On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 00:55, Robin Turner wrote:


I've been playing around with kppp. Two questions:

1. Are my frequent Mozilla crashes anything to do with the fact that I 
now have it opening on connect rather than manually?

2.  Is there a way to get kppp to connect on startup?

Sir Robin


Regarding point 2, just put a:

ifup ppp0

in an appropriate /etc/init.d file.  Doing this will cause it to
automatically redial if the link dies.  Is that what you wanted?
I now use DSL, but back in the dial-up days, I used a script controlled
by a simple flag file mechanism to enable anyone on my home LAN to put
the link up or down.  You are welcome to that if the solution above is
too inflexible.
I'm not sure if your script is what I'm looking for, but I'd like to see 
it (it would also be useful to post it here for the benefit of the masses!).

And a word to KDE developers - the user-friendly graphic help pages are 
very nice, but please write man pages in the normal format. A Linux/Unix 
app without a man page is like a Perl script without perldoc.

Sir Robin



man pppd is your freind, as is /etc/ppp/options a file to confige such
options as demand and idle settings
Aha!  I'd tried "man ppp" - forgot to dial D for daemon, though.  Should 
be plain sailing from here.

Sir Robin

--
"A Perl script is "correct" if it gets the job done before your boss 
fires you."
 - Larry Wall

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Turkey
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Re: [newbie] kppp questions

2003-06-04 Thread ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 17:31, Robin Turner wrote:
> Brian Parish wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 00:55, Robin Turner wrote:
> > 
> >>I've been playing around with kppp. Two questions:
> >>
> >>1. Are my frequent Mozilla crashes anything to do with the fact that I 
> >>now have it opening on connect rather than manually?
> >>
> >>2.  Is there a way to get kppp to connect on startup?
> >>
> >>Sir Robin
> > 
> > 
> > Regarding point 2, just put a:
> > 
> > ifup ppp0
> > 
> > in an appropriate /etc/init.d file.  Doing this will cause it to
> > automatically redial if the link dies.  Is that what you wanted?
> > 
> > I now use DSL, but back in the dial-up days, I used a script controlled
> > by a simple flag file mechanism to enable anyone on my home LAN to put
> > the link up or down.  You are welcome to that if the solution above is
> > too inflexible.
> 
> I'm not sure if your script is what I'm looking for, but I'd like to see 
> it (it would also be useful to post it here for the benefit of the masses!).
> 
> And a word to KDE developers - the user-friendly graphic help pages are 
> very nice, but please write man pages in the normal format. A Linux/Unix 
> app without a man page is like a Perl script without perldoc.
> 
> Sir Robin
> 

man pppd is your freind, as is /etc/ppp/options a file to confige such
options as demand and idle settings


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Re: [newbie] kppp questions

2003-06-04 Thread Robin Turner
Brian Parish wrote:
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 00:55, Robin Turner wrote:

I've been playing around with kppp. Two questions:

1. Are my frequent Mozilla crashes anything to do with the fact that I 
now have it opening on connect rather than manually?

2.  Is there a way to get kppp to connect on startup?

Sir Robin


Regarding point 2, just put a:

ifup ppp0

in an appropriate /etc/init.d file.  Doing this will cause it to
automatically redial if the link dies.  Is that what you wanted?
I now use DSL, but back in the dial-up days, I used a script controlled
by a simple flag file mechanism to enable anyone on my home LAN to put
the link up or down.  You are welcome to that if the solution above is
too inflexible.
I'm not sure if your script is what I'm looking for, but I'd like to see 
it (it would also be useful to post it here for the benefit of the masses!).

And a word to KDE developers - the user-friendly graphic help pages are 
very nice, but please write man pages in the normal format. A Linux/Unix 
app without a man page is like a Perl script without perldoc.

Sir Robin

--
"A Perl script is "correct" if it gets the job done before your boss 
fires you."
 - Larry Wall

Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Univeritesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey
www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin



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Re: [newbie] kppp questions

2003-06-02 Thread Brian Parish
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 00:55, Robin Turner wrote:
> I've been playing around with kppp. Two questions:
> 
> 1. Are my frequent Mozilla crashes anything to do with the fact that I 
> now have it opening on connect rather than manually?
> 
> 2.  Is there a way to get kppp to connect on startup?
> 
> Sir Robin

Regarding point 2, just put a:

ifup ppp0

in an appropriate /etc/init.d file.  Doing this will cause it to
automatically redial if the link dies.  Is that what you wanted?

I now use DSL, but back in the dial-up days, I used a script controlled
by a simple flag file mechanism to enable anyone on my home LAN to put
the link up or down.  You are welcome to that if the solution above is
too inflexible.

cheers
Brian

HTH
Brian


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[newbie] kppp questions

2003-06-02 Thread Robin Turner
I've been playing around with kppp. Two questions:

1. Are my frequent Mozilla crashes anything to do with the fact that I 
now have it opening on connect rather than manually?

2.  Is there a way to get kppp to connect on startup?

Sir Robin

--
"A Perl script is "correct" if it gets the job done before your boss 
fires you."
 - Larry Wall

Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Univeritesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey
www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin



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