Re: [newbie] kppp wierdness]
On Wed, 31 May 2000 18:29:24 +0100, you wrote: >I have exactly the same problem. If I access the Internet using KPPP , I >subsequently cannot activate any programme on my desktop or elswhere. I cannot >even activate my browser (Netscape 4.73). In order to use the browser, I have to >activate it before I activate KPPP. I just had this problem and fixed it buy un-ticking an option in kppp setup. I had kppp configured with the correct DNS addresses for the nameservers of the ISP's I use. Every time I established a connection via kppp none of the "internet aware" desktop applications would work. Netscape, the KDE file manger or kmail etc. It turns out there is a tick box on the kppp setup screen that is to do with hostnames, down the bottom left of one of the screens. Can't remember what it is called exactly as I am at work on Windows at the moment. Anyway if it is set, try un-ticking the box. With it ticked I think your pc assumes the name of the ISP (or something like that) which means it is talking to itself and does not work. HTH Dave
Re: [newbie] kppp wierdness]
Andrew Scotchmer wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jul 2036, you wrote: > > Yo Andrew, > > > > Your problem may not be a "kppp" problem at all. If you can use other > > networking protocols, the problem can be one of or both of two things. DNS IP > > configuration incorrect and something is wrong with your browser. In my > > opinion, I believe it to be your browser alone. If you cant FTP to a site > > using the site name such as: > > > Thanks Altoine, >however I think maybe I did not explain myself fully the first time. > Netscape was only an example. What happens is nothing opens. I click on say > my home directory and nothing happens. I click on the console and nothing > happens. When I go to the menu and choose anything, say a game, nothing > happens, yet using the /sbin/ifup command everything is fine. > > It is not only netscape it is the whole desktop that doesn't respond when > connecting with kppp. I've checked my DNS IP configuration and all is fine. > > -- > Andrew I have exactly the same problem. If I access the Internet using KPPP , I subsequently cannot activate any programme on my desktop or elswhere. I cannot even activate my browser (Netscape 4.73). In order to use the browser, I have to activate it before I activate KPPP. Willem begin:vcard n:Buiter;Willem H. tel;home:#-44-20-75179289 tel;work:#-44-20-73386805 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.whb1002.uklinux.net org:European Bank for Reconstruction and Development;Office of the Chief Economist version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Chief Economist adr;quoted-printable:;;2 St Davids Square=0D=0A;London;;E14 3WA;UK x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Professor Willem H. Buiter end:vcard
Re: [newbie] kppp wierdness]
AndrewI believe that I've heard of this happening when someone's chosen one of the higher security levels. The system senses a new user when the phone connection is made (the ip address of ppp0 changes to whatever the isp assigned) and therefore does not allow any of the normally accessable programs to be launched. When the connection goes away, then all becomes normal again. So I believe that possibly re-setting the system security level might solve your problem. Anyway, I hope this leads you in a positive direction towards solving your problem. Alan Andrew Scotchmer wrote: > > On Thu, 03 Jul 2036, you wrote: > > Yo Andrew, > > > > Your problem may not be a "kppp" problem at all. If you can use other > > networking protocols, the problem can be one of or both of two things. DNS IP > > configuration incorrect and something is wrong with your browser. In my > > opinion, I believe it to be your browser alone. If you cant FTP to a site > > using the site name such as: > > > Thanks Altoine, >however I think maybe I did not explain myself fully the first time. > Netscape was only an example. What happens is nothing opens. I click on say > my home directory and nothing happens. I click on the console and nothing > happens. When I go to the menu and choose anything, say a game, nothing > happens, yet using the /sbin/ifup command everything is fine. > > It is not only netscape it is the whole desktop that doesn't respond when > connecting with kppp. I've checked my DNS IP configuration and all is fine. > > -- > Andrew
Re: [newbie] kppp wierdness]
On Thu, 03 Jul 2036, you wrote: > Yo Andrew, > > Your problem may not be a "kppp" problem at all. If you can use other > networking protocols, the problem can be one of or both of two things. DNS IP > configuration incorrect and something is wrong with your browser. In my > opinion, I believe it to be your browser alone. If you cant FTP to a site > using the site name such as: > Thanks Altoine, however I think maybe I did not explain myself fully the first time. Netscape was only an example. What happens is nothing opens. I click on say my home directory and nothing happens. I click on the console and nothing happens. When I go to the menu and choose anything, say a game, nothing happens, yet using the /sbin/ifup command everything is fine. It is not only netscape it is the whole desktop that doesn't respond when connecting with kppp. I've checked my DNS IP configuration and all is fine. -- Andrew
[newbie] kppp wierdness]
Yo Andrew, Your problem may not be a "kppp" problem at all. If you can use other networking protocols, the problem can be one of or both of two things. DNS IP configuration incorrect and something is wrong with your browser. In my opinion, I believe it to be your browser alone. If you cant FTP to a site using the site name such as: ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/I-WANT-THIS/doc the problem is not with your DNS as FTP has just demonstrated that it is working fine. The problem is in your upgrade of Netscape. What I found the problem to be is this; Your Netscape RPM and upgraded Netscape tarball are not on the same wave length. What I mean is this. Your "old" netscape RPM has a file that your Netscape icons link to that uses a "app-default" file to point it to it's resources. I found the "apps-default directory after I had uninstalled the "old" Netscape RPM using Kpackage and then reinstalled Netscape using the Netscape tarball. The only problem with this method is that you are forced to make changes to your icons that point to netscape in their properties. I loaded my Netscape tarball to /opt/netscape. Which means that in the properties I had to point the icon to ; /opt/netscape/netscape This solved all of my Netscape woes and allowed me to be able to properly download and run plugins correctly like Shockwave, xanim, and the such. Try this. if it doesn't work for you whch I doubt that you'll have a problem, just reinstall the "old" netscape from your distro. Altoine (pronounced "Al-twon") "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What I have heard is if you aren't able to open anything else up then you do not have the correct DNS numbers in there. - Original Message - From: Andrew Scotchmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] kppp wierdness > On Sat, 27 May 2000, you wrote: > > Okay gang, I have some wierdness here with my kppp connection. I can IRC and > > FTP and most anything else but when I try to http (using Netscape 4.72) it craps > > out about 95% of the time. > > > Sorry Jerry no help from me I'm afraid. Just writing to add another weirdness. > Whenever I connect using kppp I cannot open anything else. Netscape, Kmail > infact everything ends up as dead icons, nothing responds. > However if I run /sbin/ifup ppp0 before starting X I can use the desktop as > normal and that is what I am having to do. Weird huh > > Andrew > > _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] kppp wierdness
What I have heard is if you aren't able to open anything else up then you do not have the correct DNS numbers in there. - Original Message - From: Andrew Scotchmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] kppp wierdness > On Sat, 27 May 2000, you wrote: > > Okay gang, I have some wierdness here with my kppp connection. I can IRC and > > FTP and most anything else but when I try to http (using Netscape 4.72) it craps > > out about 95% of the time. > > > Sorry Jerry no help from me I'm afraid. Just writing to add another weirdness. > Whenever I connect using kppp I cannot open anything else. Netscape, Kmail > infact everything ends up as dead icons, nothing responds. > However if I run /sbin/ifup ppp0 before starting X I can use the desktop as > normal and that is what I am having to do. Weird huh > > Andrew > > _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [newbie] kppp wierdness
On Sat, 27 May 2000, you wrote: > Okay gang, I have some wierdness here with my kppp connection. I can IRC and > FTP and most anything else but when I try to http (using Netscape 4.72) it craps > out about 95% of the time. > Sorry Jerry no help from me I'm afraid. Just writing to add another weirdness. Whenever I connect using kppp I cannot open anything else. Netscape, Kmail infact everything ends up as dead icons, nothing responds. However if I run /sbin/ifup ppp0 before starting X I can use the desktop as normal and that is what I am having to do. Weird huh Andrew
[newbie] kppp wierdness
Okay gang, I have some wierdness here with my kppp connection. I can IRC and FTP and most anything else but when I try to http (using Netscape 4.72) it craps out about 95% of the time. I have used the same settings for my ISP forever both on Windows and previous LM installs. I am currently using LM 6.1. I also have a freewwweb account that works about 90% of the time for web surfing. The modem is a Zoom 28.8, I get a good connection (read no disconnects). One thing I have noticed when I cannot reach the web I also cannot Ping my ISPs Primary DNS server, I can Ping the Secondary with times of 220 ms. I attribute the lag to the 28.8 connection speed. Any ideas, thoughts or suggestions let me know. Thanks. Jerry
