Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 12:59 pm, Void lon iXaarii wrote:
> H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> >
> >Paah!, since I've installed linux I lost the time and patience to
> > watch TV. There's always something to be fixed or...or to enjoy a
> > brief moment of victory when it all runs perfectly, only to
> > gather that the next version just came out;)
>
> ummm .. that doesn't seem like a good thing .. it eating up your
> time .. unless of course you enjoy it

It certainly beats what's on TV

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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-29 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:59:22 +0200
Void lon iXaarii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ummm .. that doesn't seem like a good thing .. it eating up your time .. 
> unless of course you enjoy it

At least with hacking around with Linux you might actually learn something of
value.

T.V., on the other hand, that's debatable. Since 90% of news organizations
are owned by about 5 people, you are not exactly getting a "healthy diet"  or
diversity of opinion, and news would be the only legitimate use of TV nowadays,
considering the alternative is unfunny and trite sitcoms and "reality" shows.

Once Seinfeld went off the air and the Simpsons lost Matt Groening, TV became a
wasteland, IMO.

I hear there's a new series of Dr. Who coming on the air in Britain, now *that*
I would want to watch, but the cable monopoly here in Canada either would not
offer it or would charge exorbitant rates just to get that one channel. There is
Tech TV as well, but I don't get it for the same reason.

I get all the news I need from the BBC and CBC, both of which are independant,
public, and available *online*.

With all due respect to Nietzche, "TV is dead" ;-)

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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-29 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 29 November 2003 13:59, Void lon iXaarii wrote:
> >Paah!, since I've installed linux I lost the time and patience to watch
> > TV. There's always something to be fixed or...or to enjoy a brief moment
> > of victory when it all runs perfectly, only to gather that the next
> > version just came out;)
> >
> >  
>
> ummm .. that doesn't seem like a good thing .. it eating up your time ..
> unless of course you enjoy it

It's my distorted view of "having fun";)

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-29 Thread Void lon iXaarii
H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

On Friday 28 November 2003 16:17, Void lon iXaarii wrote:
 

seems like you really have a strong opinion on this :-)

.. still .. remote is cool .. having a remote for my computer is just
awesome :) ... and now I can record Daffy duck & stuff ;)
   

Paah!, since I've installed linux I lost the time and patience to watch TV.
There's always something to be fixed or...or to enjoy a brief moment of 
victory when it all runs perfectly, only to gather that the next version just 
came out;)

 

ummm .. that doesn't seem like a good thing .. it eating up your time .. 
unless of course you enjoy it


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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-29 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:24 am, many eyes noted that H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Friday 28 November 2003 16:17, Void lon iXaarii wrote:
> > seems like you really have a strong opinion on this :-)
> >
> > .. still .. remote is cool .. having a remote for my computer is just
> > awesome :) ... and now I can record Daffy duck & stuff ;)
>
> Paah!, since I've installed linux I lost the time and patience to watch TV.
> There's always something to be fixed or...or to enjoy a brief moment of
> victory when it all runs perfectly, only to gather that the next version
> just came out;)
>
> Good luck,
> HarM

So that's why I never watch television any more.

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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 28 November 2003 16:17, Void lon iXaarii wrote:
> seems like you really have a strong opinion on this :-)
>
> .. still .. remote is cool .. having a remote for my computer is just
> awesome :) ... and now I can record Daffy duck & stuff ;)

Paah!, since I've installed linux I lost the time and patience to watch TV.
There's always something to be fixed or...or to enjoy a brief moment of 
victory when it all runs perfectly, only to gather that the next version just 
came out;)

Good luck,
HarM

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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-26 Thread Aron Smith
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 11:59, anton wrote:
> Just when I lose all hope in Americans I always get a slap back to 
> reality... Why do we see so little of it? I wonder.
> Anton
> 
> HaywireMac wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:41:56 +0200
> >Void lon iXaarii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >> but my tv tuner didn't work (not even one channel detected) ...
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Back to Windows for *TV*??!!
> >
> >Well, if it's worth it... ;-)
> >
> >"One Nation under God
> >has turned into
> >One Nation under the influence
> >of one drug
> >
> >Television, the drug of the Nation
> >Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
> >
> >T.V., it satellite links
> >our United States of unconciousness
> >Apathetic therapeutic and extremely addictive
> >the methadone metronome pumping out
> >a 150 channels 24 hours a day
> >you can flip through all of them
> >and still there's nothing worth watching
> >
> >T.V. is the reason why less than ten percent of our
> >Nation reads books daily
> >Why most people think Central America
> >means Kansas
> >Socialism means unamerican
> >and Apartheid is a new headache remedy
> >
> >absorbed in it's world it's so hard to find us
> >It shapes our minds the most
> >maybe the mother of our Nation
> >should remind us
> >that we're sitting to close to. . .
> >
> >Television, the drug of the Nation
> >Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
> >
> >T.V. is
> >the stomping ground for political candidates
> >Where bears in the woods
> >are chased by Grecian Formula'd
> >bald eagles
> >
> >T.V. is mechanized politic's
> >remote control over the masses
> >co-sponsered by environmentally safe gases
> >watch for the PBS special
> >
> >It's the perpetuation of the two party system
> >where image takes precedence over wisdom
> >Where sound bite politics are served to
> >the fastfood culture
> >
> >Where straight teeth in your mouth
> >are more important than the words
> >that come out of it
> >Race baiting is the way to get selected
> >Willie Horton or
> >Will he not get elected on . . .
> >
> >Television, the drug of the Nation
> >Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
> >
> >T.V. is it the reflector or the director?
> >Does it imitate us or do we imitate it
> >Because a child watches 1500 murders before he's
> >twelve years old and we wonder how we've created
> >a Jason generation that learns to laugh
> >rather than abhor the horror
> >
> >T.V. is the place where
> >armchair generals and quarterbacks can
> >experience first hand
> >the excitement of video warfare
> >as the theme song is sung in the background
> >
> >Sugar sweet sitcoms
> >that leave us with a bad actor taste while
> >pop stars metamorphosize into soda pop stars
> >You saw the video
> >You heard the soundtrack
> >Well now go buy the soft drink
> >Well, the only cola that I support
> >would be a union C.O.L.A. (Cost of Living Allowance)
> >On Television.
> >
> >Television, the drug of the Nation
> >Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
> >
> >Back again, "New and Improved",
> >we return to our irregularly programmed schedule
> >hidden cleverly between heavy breasted
> >beer and car commericals
> >
> >CNN ESPN ABC TNT but mostly B.S.
> >Where oxymoronic language like
> >"virtually spotless" "fresh frozen"
> >"light yet filling" and "military intelligence"
> >have become standard
> >
> >T.V. is the place where phrases are redefined
> >like "recession" to "necessary downturn"
> >"crude oil" on a beach to "mousse"
> >"Civilian death" to "collateral damages"
> >and being killed by your own Army
> >is now called "friendly fire"
> >
> >T.V. is the place where the pursuit
> >of happiness has become the pursuit of trivia
> >Where toothpaste and cars have become sex objects
> >Where imagination is sucked out of children
> >by a cathode ray nipple
> >T.V. is the only wet nurse
> >that would create a cripple
> >
> >Television, the drug of the Nation
> >Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
> >On Television . . ."
Marx was wrong .. Religon is not the Opate of the masses..
Television is..
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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-26 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:59:43 +1300
anton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just when I lose all hope in Americans I always get a slap back to 
> reality... Why do we see so little of it? I wonder.

I'm Canadian, d00d!

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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-26 Thread anton
Just when I lose all hope in Americans I always get a slap back to 
reality... Why do we see so little of it? I wonder.
Anton

HaywireMac wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:41:56 +0200
Void lon iXaarii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

but my tv tuner didn't work (not even one channel detected) ...
   

Back to Windows for *TV*??!!

Well, if it's worth it... ;-)

"One Nation under God
has turned into
One Nation under the influence
of one drug
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
T.V., it satellite links
our United States of unconciousness
Apathetic therapeutic and extremely addictive
the methadone metronome pumping out
a 150 channels 24 hours a day
you can flip through all of them
and still there's nothing worth watching
T.V. is the reason why less than ten percent of our
Nation reads books daily
Why most people think Central America
means Kansas
Socialism means unamerican
and Apartheid is a new headache remedy
absorbed in it's world it's so hard to find us
It shapes our minds the most
maybe the mother of our Nation
should remind us
that we're sitting to close to. . .
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
T.V. is
the stomping ground for political candidates
Where bears in the woods
are chased by Grecian Formula'd
bald eagles
T.V. is mechanized politic's
remote control over the masses
co-sponsered by environmentally safe gases
watch for the PBS special
It's the perpetuation of the two party system
where image takes precedence over wisdom
Where sound bite politics are served to
the fastfood culture
Where straight teeth in your mouth
are more important than the words
that come out of it
Race baiting is the way to get selected
Willie Horton or
Will he not get elected on . . .
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
T.V. is it the reflector or the director?
Does it imitate us or do we imitate it
Because a child watches 1500 murders before he's
twelve years old and we wonder how we've created
a Jason generation that learns to laugh
rather than abhor the horror
T.V. is the place where
armchair generals and quarterbacks can
experience first hand
the excitement of video warfare
as the theme song is sung in the background
Sugar sweet sitcoms
that leave us with a bad actor taste while
pop stars metamorphosize into soda pop stars
You saw the video
You heard the soundtrack
Well now go buy the soft drink
Well, the only cola that I support
would be a union C.O.L.A. (Cost of Living Allowance)
On Television.
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
Back again, "New and Improved",
we return to our irregularly programmed schedule
hidden cleverly between heavy breasted
beer and car commericals
CNN ESPN ABC TNT but mostly B.S.
Where oxymoronic language like
"virtually spotless" "fresh frozen"
"light yet filling" and "military intelligence"
have become standard
T.V. is the place where phrases are redefined
like "recession" to "necessary downturn"
"crude oil" on a beach to "mousse"
"Civilian death" to "collateral damages"
and being killed by your own Army
is now called "friendly fire"
T.V. is the place where the pursuit
of happiness has become the pursuit of trivia
Where toothpaste and cars have become sex objects
Where imagination is sucked out of children
by a cathode ray nipple
T.V. is the only wet nurse
that would create a cripple
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
On Television . . ."
 



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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-25 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 12:50, HaywireMac wrote:
snipped all that
> On Television . . ."
Gawd, Haywire you really can be a PIA..beats watching TV though:)

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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-25 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:41:56 +0200
Void lon iXaarii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  but my tv tuner didn't work (not even one channel detected) ...

Back to Windows for *TV*??!!

Well, if it's worth it... ;-)

"One Nation under God
has turned into
One Nation under the influence
of one drug

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation

T.V., it satellite links
our United States of unconciousness
Apathetic therapeutic and extremely addictive
the methadone metronome pumping out
a 150 channels 24 hours a day
you can flip through all of them
and still there's nothing worth watching

T.V. is the reason why less than ten percent of our
Nation reads books daily
Why most people think Central America
means Kansas
Socialism means unamerican
and Apartheid is a new headache remedy

absorbed in it's world it's so hard to find us
It shapes our minds the most
maybe the mother of our Nation
should remind us
that we're sitting to close to. . .

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation

T.V. is
the stomping ground for political candidates
Where bears in the woods
are chased by Grecian Formula'd
bald eagles

T.V. is mechanized politic's
remote control over the masses
co-sponsered by environmentally safe gases
watch for the PBS special

It's the perpetuation of the two party system
where image takes precedence over wisdom
Where sound bite politics are served to
the fastfood culture

Where straight teeth in your mouth
are more important than the words
that come out of it
Race baiting is the way to get selected
Willie Horton or
Will he not get elected on . . .

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation

T.V. is it the reflector or the director?
Does it imitate us or do we imitate it
Because a child watches 1500 murders before he's
twelve years old and we wonder how we've created
a Jason generation that learns to laugh
rather than abhor the horror

T.V. is the place where
armchair generals and quarterbacks can
experience first hand
the excitement of video warfare
as the theme song is sung in the background

Sugar sweet sitcoms
that leave us with a bad actor taste while
pop stars metamorphosize into soda pop stars
You saw the video
You heard the soundtrack
Well now go buy the soft drink
Well, the only cola that I support
would be a union C.O.L.A. (Cost of Living Allowance)
On Television.

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation

Back again, "New and Improved",
we return to our irregularly programmed schedule
hidden cleverly between heavy breasted
beer and car commericals

CNN ESPN ABC TNT but mostly B.S.
Where oxymoronic language like
"virtually spotless" "fresh frozen"
"light yet filling" and "military intelligence"
have become standard

T.V. is the place where phrases are redefined
like "recession" to "necessary downturn"
"crude oil" on a beach to "mousse"
"Civilian death" to "collateral damages"
and being killed by your own Army
is now called "friendly fire"

T.V. is the place where the pursuit
of happiness has become the pursuit of trivia
Where toothpaste and cars have become sex objects
Where imagination is sucked out of children
by a cathode ray nipple
T.V. is the only wet nurse
that would create a cripple

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
On Television . . ."

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[newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-25 Thread Void lon iXaarii
   well ... after like ... umm .. maybe 5-6 months of linuxing .. it 
seems I'm moving back to windows again ... I had really high hopes for 
Mandrake 9.2 ... but my tv tuner didn't work (not even one channel 
detected) ... though it was cool that this time I was able to quickly 
get all 4 speakers working ... and I saw no obvious way of getting the 
remote working seems I'm moving into standby again for a couple of 
months years ... sad news ;-(
   greets to everybody & thanks for all the help.


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