Re: [newbie] linux books
riccardo wrote: On Thursday 24 February 2005 07:47 am, Duncan Anderson wrote: but all Computer books are out of date by the time they are published & most are not page-turners/good bedtime reading . . . thus, a Google Search is more likely to turn up the goods :) best rgds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Indeed! Rather heavy reading. Have been following links and have some good bookmarks to catch up on. Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
Duncan Anderson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Will try get one or two from library first, then buy one. That is very wise, Rosemary. Not wanting to dampen anyone's enthusiasm, but all Computer books are out of date by the time they are published. The best up-to-date information is freely available on the Net. Having said that, even old computer books can be useful in terms of learning the concepts and methods involved. They are not always good at the finer details of the newer releases of various Linux distributions. "Linux for Dummies" isn't bad. cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Since posting - have been doing the rounds of various places and following links and bookmarking them. Printing bits and pieces as I need it, and *hoping* I'm beginning to learn something. Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
On Thursday 24 February 2005 07:47 am, Duncan Anderson wrote: > but all Computer books are out of date by the time they are published & most are not page-turners/good bedtime reading . . . thus, a Google Search is more likely to turn up the goods :) best rgds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Will try get one or two from library first, then buy one. That is very wise, Rosemary. Not wanting to dampen anyone's enthusiasm, but all Computer books are out of date by the time they are published. The best up-to-date information is freely available on the Net. Having said that, even old computer books can be useful in terms of learning the concepts and methods involved. They are not always good at the finer details of the newer releases of various Linux distributions. "Linux for Dummies" isn't bad. cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 06:57 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > Rob Blomquist wrote: > >>>Linux Etudes is also good but very basic > >> > >>For very beginners there's Linux For Non-Geeks by Rickford Grant. It's > >>based off of Fedora, but much of the information can be gained from it. > >>It's written in a very informal style. For a more in depth, but not too > >> in depth, I liked Linux Administration: A beginner's Guide by Steven > >> Graham and Steve Shah. It gives a few Red Hat information, though they > >> confesses to love and use Mandrake, but what I love is that he also > >> shows how to administer using the actual configuration files. > > > >My personal favorites that have not been mentioned are > > > >Linux+: In Depth > >An excellent book on using linux as an administrator, with not much > > mention of the graphical side. > > > >Multitool Linux- Practical Uses for Open Source Software > >A great book on how to use the tools in Linux to do what we want to do > > from managing and dealing with graphic images, networking, sound, remote > > CD burning, and more Its my most recent find, and I am quite excited. > > > >Linux! I Didn't Know You Could Do That > >An older beginner minded text that covers the basics. > > > >The Complete Reference to Linux, 5th Ed. > >5th ed covers the 2.4 kernel, and its based on RH 8.2, but there is alot > > of good information there. It deals with Linux with more of a server > > mentaility, but is a good reference on the nuts and bolts. > > > >One thing for sure, is to not worry about getting stuff that is a little > > older say for the 2.4 kernel, as program names don't change and their > > root usages stay the same, so in an older book you will learn the basics, > > and in a man page you will learn the details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > >Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > > > Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Will try get one or two from > library first, then buy one. You will over the next few years buy a *lot* of books ;-) > > Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 09:57 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: >>> whack > > Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Will try get one or two from > library first, then buy one. > > Rosemary Rosemary: Check out O'Reilly's (www.oreilly.com) Safari which allows you to read various O'Reilly publications online. I'm not sure what it costs, but they offer a 14 day free trial. They also make portions of various books (usually a chapter or so) available online at the main site. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
Dana Tue February 22 2005 06:33, Aron Smith je napisao: > On Monday 21 February 2005 08:30 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Just wondering if there is any recommended texts suitable for beginners. > > I know there's heaps of stuff on the web, and I do download and print > > stuff. I like to have a written reference to follow when doing new > > things. > > Rute > urpmi rute > or download it > http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz > or just read it online > > > Thanks > > Rosemary You could check this book on www.sunsite.dk/linux-newbie the manual is called "Linux for dumies" look for latest edition Its very well explained for you if you are beginer best one i started with it cant tell i learned everithing but i learned great deal of understanding linux and linux structure.When i install linux on my friends PC i give them this manual to learn something about it and after that they can read ebooks with taht contain 5000+ pages. Cheers -- We must die because we have known them. -- Ptah-hotep, 2000 B.C. Linux bsielektronik.com 2.6.8.1-12mdk #1 Fri Oct 1 12:53:41 CEST 2004 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ GNU/Linux 16:12:06 up 3 d 12 h 22 min, 1 user, load average: 0.72, 0.69, 0.35 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
Rob Blomquist wrote: Linux Etudes is also good but very basic For very beginners there's Linux For Non-Geeks by Rickford Grant. It's based off of Fedora, but much of the information can be gained from it. It's written in a very informal style. For a more in depth, but not too in depth, I liked Linux Administration: A beginner's Guide by Steven Graham and Steve Shah. It gives a few Red Hat information, though they confesses to love and use Mandrake, but what I love is that he also shows how to administer using the actual configuration files. My personal favorites that have not been mentioned are Linux+: In Depth An excellent book on using linux as an administrator, with not much mention of the graphical side. Multitool Linux- Practical Uses for Open Source Software A great book on how to use the tools in Linux to do what we want to do from managing and dealing with graphic images, networking, sound, remote CD burning, and more Its my most recent find, and I am quite excited. Linux! I Didn't Know You Could Do That An older beginner minded text that covers the basics. The Complete Reference to Linux, 5th Ed. 5th ed covers the 2.4 kernel, and its based on RH 8.2, but there is alot of good information there. It deals with Linux with more of a server mentaility, but is a good reference on the nuts and bolts. One thing for sure, is to not worry about getting stuff that is a little older say for the 2.4 kernel, as program names don't change and their root usages stay the same, so in an older book you will learn the basics, and in a man page you will learn the details. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Will try get one or two from library first, then buy one. Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
> > Linux Etudes is also good but very basic > > For very beginners there's Linux For Non-Geeks by Rickford Grant. It's > based off of Fedora, but much of the information can be gained from it. > It's written in a very informal style. For a more in depth, but not too in > depth, I liked Linux Administration: A beginner's Guide by Steven Graham > and Steve Shah. It gives a few Red Hat information, though they confesses > to love and use Mandrake, but what I love is that he also shows how to > administer using the actual configuration files. My personal favorites that have not been mentioned are Linux+: In Depth An excellent book on using linux as an administrator, with not much mention of the graphical side. Multitool Linux- Practical Uses for Open Source Software A great book on how to use the tools in Linux to do what we want to do from managing and dealing with graphic images, networking, sound, remote CD burning, and more Its my most recent find, and I am quite excited. Linux! I Didn't Know You Could Do That An older beginner minded text that covers the basics. The Complete Reference to Linux, 5th Ed. 5th ed covers the 2.4 kernel, and its based on RH 8.2, but there is alot of good information there. It deals with Linux with more of a server mentaility, but is a good reference on the nuts and bolts. One thing for sure, is to not worry about getting stuff that is a little older say for the 2.4 kernel, as program names don't change and their root usages stay the same, so in an older book you will learn the basics, and in a man page you will learn the details. -- Linux User #183693 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
I read O'reilly's "Running Linux" and "Understanding the Linux Kernel" (www.oreily.com) Joris On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:50:26 -0600, John Michael Schneiderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 21 February 2005 23:55, Aron Smith wrote: > > On Monday 21 February 2005 09:35 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > > > On Tuesday 22 Feb 2005 18:33, Aron Smith wrote: > > > > On Monday 21 February 2005 08:30 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering if there is any recommended texts suitable for > > > > > beginners. I know there's heaps of stuff on the web, and I do > > > > > download and print stuff. I like to have a written reference to > > > > > follow when doing new things. > > > > > > > > Rute > > > > urpmi rute > > > > or download it > > > > http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz > > > > or just read it online > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Rosemary > > > > > > Yes I am wading through that and have some printed. > > > > Linux Etudes is also good but very basic > For very beginners there's Linux For Non-Geeks by Rickford Grant. It's based > off of Fedora, but much of the information can be gained from it. It's > written in a very informal style. For a more in depth, but not too in depth, > I liked Linux Administration: A beginner's Guide by Steven Graham and Steve > Shah. It gives a few Red Hat information, though they confesses to love and > use Mandrake, but what I love is that he also shows how to administer using > the actual configuration files. > > -- > "Injustice is happening now; suffering is happening now. We have choices to > make now. To insist on absolute certainty before starting to apply ethics > to life decisions is a way of choosing to be amoral." > Richard Stallman > (Slashdot interview 1 May 2000) > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
On Monday 21 February 2005 23:55, Aron Smith wrote: > On Monday 21 February 2005 09:35 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > > On Tuesday 22 Feb 2005 18:33, Aron Smith wrote: > > > On Monday 21 February 2005 08:30 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > Just wondering if there is any recommended texts suitable for > > > > beginners. I know there's heaps of stuff on the web, and I do > > > > download and print stuff. I like to have a written reference to > > > > follow when doing new things. > > > > > > Rute > > > urpmi rute > > > or download it > > > http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz > > > or just read it online > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Rosemary > > > > Yes I am wading through that and have some printed. > > Linux Etudes is also good but very basic For very beginners there's Linux For Non-Geeks by Rickford Grant. It's based off of Fedora, but much of the information can be gained from it. It's written in a very informal style. For a more in depth, but not too in depth, I liked Linux Administration: A beginner's Guide by Steven Graham and Steve Shah. It gives a few Red Hat information, though they confesses to love and use Mandrake, but what I love is that he also shows how to administer using the actual configuration files. -- "Injustice is happening now; suffering is happening now. We have choices to make now. To insist on absolute certainty before starting to apply ethics to life decisions is a way of choosing to be amoral." Richard Stallman (Slashdot interview 1 May 2000) pgpHq0oZ5j6SW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] linux books
On Monday 21 February 2005 11:30 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > Hi all > > Just wondering if there is any recommended texts suitable for beginners. I > know there's heaps of stuff on the web, and I do download and print stuff. > I like to have a written reference to follow when doing new things. > > Thanks > Rosemary Rosemary: The two best dead-tree books are Running Linux and Linux in a Nutshell. Both are published by O'Reilly (www.oreilly.com). -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
On Monday 21 February 2005 09:35 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > On Tuesday 22 Feb 2005 18:33, Aron Smith wrote: > > On Monday 21 February 2005 08:30 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > > > Just wondering if there is any recommended texts suitable for > > > beginners. I know there's heaps of stuff on the web, and I do download > > > and print stuff. I like to have a written reference to follow when > > > doing new things. > > > > Rute > > urpmi rute > > or download it > > http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz > > or just read it online > > > > > Thanks > > > Rosemary > > Yes I am wading through that and have some printed. Linux Etudes is also good but very basic Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
On Tuesday 22 Feb 2005 18:33, Aron Smith wrote: > On Monday 21 February 2005 08:30 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Just wondering if there is any recommended texts suitable for beginners. > > I know there's heaps of stuff on the web, and I do download and print > > stuff. I like to have a written reference to follow when doing new > > things. > > Rute > urpmi rute > or download it > http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz > or just read it online > > > Thanks > > Rosemary Yes I am wading through that and have some printed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] linux books
On Monday 21 February 2005 08:30 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > Hi all > > Just wondering if there is any recommended texts suitable for beginners. I > know there's heaps of stuff on the web, and I do download and print stuff. > I like to have a written reference to follow when doing new things. > Rute urpmi rute or download it http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz or just read it online > Thanks > Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] linux books
Hi all Just wondering if there is any recommended texts suitable for beginners. I know there's heaps of stuff on the web, and I do download and print stuff. I like to have a written reference to follow when doing new things. Thanks Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: Antwort: [newbie] Linux books in PDF
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Re: [newbie] Linux books in PDF
> The McMillan Publishing Co. has a Mandrake 7 software with several > big Linux books > in PDF. It includes a tar.gz package with a reader. I haven't been > able to bring it up. I would recommend you go to www.adobe.com and download Adobe Acrobat for Linux. Be sure to read the install directions there. -- Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA Getting where I want to go with Linux...
Re: [newbie] linux books
www.emuse.net under docs section - Original Message - From: "Pittman, Merle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 4:19 PM Subject: [newbie] linux books > Anyone know where you can download some good linux books or docs. > Preferably in PDF or PS format. I am mostly interested in Mandrake Linux, > but anything would be worth have a look at. > > > Merle Pittman > TEL: (709) 724-7598 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ---
Re: [newbie] linux books
www.emuse.net in docs section on front page - Original Message - From: "Pittman, Merle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 4:19 PM Subject: [newbie] linux books > Anyone know where you can download some good linux books or docs. > Preferably in PDF or PS format. I am mostly interested in Mandrake Linux, > but anything would be worth have a look at. > > > Merle Pittman > TEL: (709) 724-7598 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ---
[newbie] linux books
Anyone know where you can download some good linux books or docs. Preferably in PDF or PS format. I am mostly interested in Mandrake Linux, but anything would be worth have a look at. Merle Pittman TEL: (709) 724-7598 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[newbie] Linux Books For Newbies by Newbies
I have been talking with some people around my area and have come up with a good Idea. The idea is to make a book for Linux newbies by Linux newbies. Most of the books out there are poorly written and/or made for the more technical oriented people. They don't answer many questions or they only touch on certain subjects. I have talked to a few book people at various firms and they too think it is a good Idea. The book would be easy for people to read and understand. It would have some graphical pictures and be easy to follow. Almost enough for a 10 year old to read it and setup a great running system. I also want to talk to the Mandrake people about adding the Mandrake CD along with the book. Now For the Problem: I need help a bunch of it to be truthful. I am asking the people in here whom have time and would like to maybe earn a little extra coin to help me out. This is a small project now but can grow to be very big. Anyone who adds content to the book would get a piece of the Pie. Your name in the book as a author. The cover would say Made by: Linux Users. There is no such thing as the Know it All Linux Guru. Something to that effect. I have a few good graphic for the Cover that are not only eye catching but easy to print. So if there is anyone whom would like to help Please let me know. Right now I am the only one who is going to contribute. If you think you could help please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject to equal "Linux Book Help" I am going to make a list of things we need to have in the book and if you have any ideas to add please send them.Here is a brief list of what I have now 1- Intro to Linux (what it is and why it started) 2- Installing Linux (everything you need to know about getting ready to install and run Linux 3- Your First Boot (What to expect and look for when you run it for the first time) 4- The Command Prompt (What it is and how to utilize it) 5- Command prompt Commands (The different Commands you can use in the Prompt) 6- X-Window (Why it could be better than Windows) 7- Running in X-Window (What you can do in X-Window and the different interfaces you can have) 8- Internet/Networking (How to get setup on the Internet and browse the WWW) 9- Email Programs In X-Window (The Email programs in X-Window) More to follow. Again Let Me know if you wish to Help. Again You will get Full Credit for what you contribute. James J. Capone Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The Apartment Next To Yours!"
