Re: [newbie] nForce and Mandrake 9.2 RPM error

2003-12-19 Thread Ricks
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On Friday 19 December 2003 06:38 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Friday 19 December 2003 23:24, Lance Benton wrote:
> > Well, looks like I'm going to give up again.. I hate going back to
> >snip<
> > my last email showed up as being from [EMAIL PROTECTED], I hadn't properly
> > configured my webmail client to show my name, so it defaulted to just my
> > email address. Sorry for any confusion that caused.
> >
> > very frustrated at how long I've been at this with no results, sorry if
> > this is all messed up or out of format.
>
> I'm sorry you're frustrated..but if you want  help you will have to ask
> for it.
> Up to now I couldn't find anything you've asked about your problems
> excepting something about a proprietary source RPM you were trying to
> build. So be more explicit about what you're trying to do and what's
> stopping you to do that. That way we can help.
>
> Feel free to go back to M$ if it bugs you that you have to learn to handle
> another OS because learning is what it's all about in the early stages. If
> you're not prepared to do that: Come back when you are.
>
> You yourself stated an nforce chip is fairly current and there must
> thousands of linux users with the same hardware with no trouble at all, so
> the probability that you yourself are the source of all the mishaps that
> are befalling you, is pretty high.
>
> Just ask.
> BTW- Please turn off  the "reply to" in your mail to the list it's
> unnecessary PIA, henceforth: UPIA;)
>
> Good luck,
> HarM

I understand the frustration Lance. I was using M$ win 98 up until sept 2003 
and have only used it now to play some games. When I installed 9.1 I think I 
hosed the install 10+ times in the 1st 3 weeks and I almost gave up. Although 
I realized I wasn't prepared enough, so I googled for any how-to on bash, man 
pages, specific commands, and any linux how-to .. I lurk this list & cooker 
mostly, but someone here recommended 2 O'Reilly books, "Linux in a Nutshell" 
and "Running Linux". I received "Linux in a Nutshell" first, so I started 
there. It wasn't until I read "Running Linux" where I started hearing myself 
say, " aah..thats what they meant",  this book sheds a lot of light on where 
it all started and how it works together. I still refer to these references 
all to often. Linux in a Nutshell has a ton of commands options and switches
which has helped me. I highly recommend these.

And rpm -rebuild has been separated into its own package: (unless I wrong, but 
I did a man rpm and didn't see the --rebuild option)
rpm-build-4.2-22.1.92mdk
I also updated to these, for security , IIRC and you will need the -devel to 
build from src
rpm-4.2-22.1.92mdk
rpm-devel-4.2-22.1.92mdk
And you will need the kernel source as HarM said. 
http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/KByName.html

here is also a beginning for rpm how-to
http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/basics/brpm.html 

I too, am preparing to get nVidia drivers installed on 9.2, I failed once 
already, so Ive been googling for anything else I might encounter.  Heres 1 
site to look into, haven't had time to peruse it as yet :   
http://www.nvnews.net

HTH
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Re: [newbie] nForce and Mandrake 9.2 RPM error

2003-12-19 Thread robin
Lance Benton wrote:

I don't know how to just shutdown the WM, so I did the ALT+F1 thing as
recommended and it resulted in the same problem.
Alt-F1 will get you into an X-less session, but that may not do the 
trick if you want to change things in X, since the X server is still 
running. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will kill X (brutally).

As I mentioned earlier (I can't remember whether it was in this thread 
or another) you need to get rid of the option to start X automatically 
(from the Mandrake Control Center go to XFdrake). You can switch it back 
on when everything is working to your satisfaction.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] nForce and Mandrake 9.2 RPM error

2003-12-19 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 19 December 2003 23:24, Lance Benton wrote:
> Well, looks like I'm going to give up again.. I hate going back to
>snip<
> my last email showed up as being from [EMAIL PROTECTED], I hadn't properly
> configured my webmail client to show my name, so it defaulted to just my
> email address. Sorry for any confusion that caused.
>
> very frustrated at how long I've been at this with no results, sorry if
> this is all messed up or out of format.

I'm sorry you're frustrated..but if you want  help you will have to ask 
for it.
Up to now I couldn't find anything you've asked about your problems excepting 
something about a proprietary source RPM you were trying to build.
So be more explicit about what you're trying to do and what's stopping you to 
do that. That way we can help.

Feel free to go back to M$ if it bugs you that you have to learn to handle 
another OS because learning is what it's all about in the early stages. If 
you're not prepared to do that: Come back when you are.

You yourself stated an nforce chip is fairly current and there must thousands 
of linux users with the same hardware with no trouble at all, so the 
probability that you yourself are the source of all the mishaps that are 
befalling you, is pretty high.

Just ask.
BTW- Please turn off  the "reply to" in your mail to the list it's unnecessary  
PIA, henceforth: UPIA;)

Good luck,
HarM

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Re: [newbie] nForce and Mandrake 9.2 RPM error

2003-12-19 Thread Lance Benton
Well, looks like I'm going to give up again.. I hate going back to
microsoft, but I really hate that I have to troubleshoot this much to get
my drivers working. I wanted to install linux so I could start learning
it,  not learn it so I could start using it. At this stage in the OS
world,  I  don't see why it has to be so flip'n difficult. Are nforce
based  motherboards that new? No. Are they rare and mostly unused? No. So
why in   the world would an nforce based system not work from moment one of
a major   distribution install? I tried Mandrake 9.1 and 9.2 DE. I tried
Fedora Core   1 after mandrake failed me repeatedly. I even tried Vector
4.0. None of   these distributions worked for me. Fedora I didn't give an
honest attempt  I  will admit, it just felt like it was too bloated and I
really, REALLY  was  more comfortable with Mandrake 9.2 after playing with
it for a bit. I   realize that KDE is KDE, but for some reason, KDE in RH
had been red hat-  ized. Not the point... the point is, I couldn't get my
freaking NIC  working  and I can't seem to find an answer for the problem.

I don't know how to just shutdown the WM, so I did the ALT+F1 thing as
recommended and it resulted in the same problem.

I also tried the tar installation method. It too resulted in additional
errors, perhaps because I didn't have certain dev packages installed that
I  may have needed (according to a post in another forum I tried to get
help  from).

I'll stay on here for a couple of days in the event someone has another
possible troubleshooting step or something that may help me.

my last email showed up as being from [EMAIL PROTECTED], I hadn't properly
configured my webmail client to show my name, so it defaulted to just my
email address. Sorry for any confusion that caused.

very frustrated at how long I've been at this with no results, sorry if
this is all messed up or out of format.

> > I'm getting the following error
> > /usr/lib/rpm/rpmb: Permission denied
> >
> > when I try to run the following
> > rpm --rebuild nforce NVIDIA_nforce-1.0-0261.src.rpm
> >
> > I am running this as root.
> >
> > Does it matter where the rpm is located when I'm running the rebuild?
> >
> > Clean install of MandrakeLinux 9.2 Download Edition
> > I installed with the onboard Auido and NIC disabled and have yet to
enable them. This is my second install of 9.2, the first time I had the
Audio and NIC enabled. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > The rpm is the source rpm downloaded from the nvidia web site.
>
> Its possible some file for a device is currently owner by user and that
file
> is accessed during the rebuild (???).
>
> You could try logging out of your WM and either log in as root or switch
to
> console on tty1 (ALT+F1) and log in as root - then retry the rebuild.
Don't know if this will solve your problem but worth a try.  Good luck.
>
> Sharrea




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[newbie] nForce and Mandrake 9.2 RPM error

2003-12-18 Thread linux
I'm getting the following error
/usr/lib/rpm/rpmb: Permission denied

when I try to run the following
rpm --rebuild nforce NVIDIA_nforce-1.0-0261.src.rpm

I am running this as root.

Does it matter where the rpm is located when I'm running the rebuild?

Clean install of MandrakeLinux 9.2 Download Edition
I installed with the onboard Auido and NIC disabled and have yet to enable
them. This is my second install of 9.2, the first time I had the Audio and
NIC enabled. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The rpm is the source rpm downloaded from the nvidia web site.



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