Re: [newbie] partition

[Steve Jeppesen]

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:59:40 +0100
Martin Hardie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Steve
> 
> I tried it with MCC but I only have the one partition set up (eg
> swap home and /) so I think I need to resize it with the boot disk
> to start with -NO?

you are correct, I was unaware of what number and or active
partitions currently in use.  You would need to use a boot disk or
something like MandrakeMove or Knoppix Live-CD in order to resize,
then create a partition in the free space which is normally mounted
and in use by your native O.S.

> my kword request was I downloaded it and installed it but it wont
> open

Sorry about this one Martin, use Sylpheed-Claws myself.  Little to
no KDE stuff is installed on any of my systems.

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Re: [newbie] partition

[Martin Hardie]

Steve

I tried it with MCC but I only have the one partition set up (eg swap home 
and /) so I think I need to resize it with the boot disk to start with -NO?

my kword request was I downloaded it and installed it but it wont open

Hi

I urpmied koffice in my quest for a pdf translation method. it installed ok so 
it seems but when i try to start it via the icon i see it staring up on the 
task bar and nothing more happens. if I try from the shell this is the result 
(ie it doesnt work either.) I have tried the various koffice components and 
none start up. Any ideas? What do I do?

 $ kword
koffice (lib kofficecore): WARNING: /usr/lib/libkofficeui.so.2: undefined 
symbol: _ZN9KIconView22contentsDragEnterEventEP15QDragEnterEvent


Martin

On Sunday 16 January 2005 14:49, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:14:09 +0100
>
> Martin Hardie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > other than my unasnwered kword problem ... what is the ebst way to
> > resize a partition and make another one?
>
> Martin,
> You can use MCC to setup your partitions.  Open up Mandrake Control
> Center, Mount Points, Partitions - and adjust to your needs.  I've
> even used it to setup fat32 partitions so as to install that
> other less-than-desirable O.S. (after installing MD first) - but
> that isn't for the faint at heart - especially in that order.
>
> I do not recall seeing your kword post, but if it was like this one,
> and you hijacked somebodies else's post, well your question made it
> to probably 50 percent or even less of the list members.
>
> Alot of the regulars here setup filters in such a way that if the
> subject line doesn't match the original post, the message gets
> dumped and never read.  Can anybody clarify this statement a tad
> better than me?
>
> Reference this web link Martin,
> http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette
>
> so hopefully any of your future questions will be seen by all - and
> you will have a much better chance of getting your questions
> answered if seen by a greater number of people.
>
> Just trying to help - without sounding like a list cop I hope!
>
> Good luck

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Re: [newbie] partition

[Steve Jeppesen]

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:14:09 +0100
Martin Hardie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> other than my unasnwered kword problem ... what is the ebst way to
> resize a partition and make another one?

Martin,
You can use MCC to setup your partitions.  Open up Mandrake Control
Center, Mount Points, Partitions - and adjust to your needs.  I've
even used it to setup fat32 partitions so as to install that
other less-than-desirable O.S. (after installing MD first) - but
that isn't for the faint at heart - especially in that order.

I do not recall seeing your kword post, but if it was like this one,
and you hijacked somebodies else's post, well your question made it
to probably 50 percent or even less of the list members. 

Alot of the regulars here setup filters in such a way that if the
subject line doesn't match the original post, the message gets
dumped and never read.  Can anybody clarify this statement a tad
better than me?

Reference this web link Martin,
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette

so hopefully any of your future questions will be seen by all - and
you will have a much better chance of getting your questions
answered if seen by a greater number of people.

Just trying to help - without sounding like a list cop I hope!

Good luck

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[newbie] partition

[Martin Hardie]

Hi

other than my unasnwered kword problem ... what is the ebst way to resize a 
partition and make another one?

I have parted and started it up and got this message:

(snip: GPL junk)

Using /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
Error: The partition table on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc is
inconsistent.  There are many reasons why this might be the case.  However, 
the
most likely reason is that Linux detected the BIOS geometry for
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc incorrectly.  GNU Parted suspects the 
real
geometry should be 4870/255/63 (not 77622/16/63).  You should check with your
BIOS first, as this may not be correct.  You can inform Linux by adding the
parameter ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc=4870,255,63 to the command line.  
See
the LILO or GRUB documentation for more information.  If you think Parted's
suggested geometry is correct, you may select Ignore to continue (and fix 
Linux
later).  Otherwise, select Cancel (and fix Linux and/or the BIOS now).
Ignore/Cancel?

is using parted the best way or is there a simple safe alternative?

Martin




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Re: [newbie] Partition resized but remains

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Monday 01 November 2004 11:33, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I have a spare space on my hdd, so I resized one of my partition (it's on
> the last partition hda10). Using MCC, I can resized it with no problem,
> formatted it, the fstab also modified. But, after reboot, I noticed that
> the free space in that partition is still in the old one (2GB, whereas
> should be 7GB). Any idea what I'm missing?
> Thanks.

I re-read your post many times and don't really understand...could you post 
the content of "/etc/fstab" an "df -h" command?

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[newbie] Partition resized but remains

[Fajar Priyanto]

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Hi guys,
I have a spare space on my hdd, so I resized one of my partition (it's on the 
last partition hda10). Using MCC, I can resized it with no problem, formatted 
it, the fstab also modified. But, after reboot, I noticed that the free space 
in that partition is still in the old one (2GB, whereas should be 7GB).
Any idea what I'm missing?
Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] partition mounting

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 14 Oct 2004 12:27, Thereidos wrote:
> W liÅcie z czw, 14-10-2004, godz. 12:47, kress pisze:
> > Dear members,
> > thanks alot for your help, Iam very happy now that I got the right
> > mount line to be put in the /etc/fstab which is
> > /dev/hda6 /partition vfat umask=0,iocharset=utf8,codepage=852 0 0
>
> Remember that I think this _should_ work but I've never tried this out
> so I'm _not_ sure if it actually will. (I've never tried it out on 9.0
> with utf8 charset).
>
Apologies, Thereidos.  I didn't read your first one correctly.

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Re: [newbie] partition mounting

[Thereidos]

W liście z czw, 14-10-2004, godz. 12:47, kress pisze: 
> Dear members,
> thanks alot for your help, Iam very happy now that I got the right
> mount line to be put in the /etc/fstab which is
> /dev/hda6 /partition vfat umask=0,iocharset=utf8,codepage=852 0 0

Remember that I think this _should_ work but I've never tried this out
so I'm _not_ sure if it actually will. (I've never tried it out on 9.0
with utf8 charset).

And please turn off the html. Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] partition mounting

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Dear members,
thanks alot for your help, Iam very happy now that I got the right mount line to be put in the /etc/fstab which is
/dev/hda6 /partition vfat umask=0,iocharset=utf8,codepage=852 0 0
thank you very very much.
Love from,
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On Thursday 14 Oct 2004 09:09, Thereidos wrote:> W liście z czw, 14-10-2004, godz. 08:08, kress pisze:> > Dear members,> > Can any one tell me how to mount a partition under mandrake 9.0 to be> > read as isocharset utf8, and I want to know the full mount form to be> > put in the /etc/fstab>> What type of partition? Let's say it's a FAT on /dev/hda6 that you want> to mount in /partition:>> fstab:> /dev/hda6 /partition vfat umask=0,iocharset=utf8,codepage=852 0 0>> then you create a /partition directory and mount:> mkdir /partition> mount /partition>> I think this should work.> For more information about the options check the manual:> man mountI could be wrong, but it seems to me that he's asking if a single partition can be
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Re: [newbie] partition mounting

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 14 Oct 2004 09:09, Thereidos wrote:
> W liÅcie z czw, 14-10-2004, godz. 08:08, kress pisze:
> > Dear members,
> > Can any one tell me how to mount a partition under mandrake 9.0 to be
> > read as isocharset utf8, and I want to know the full mount form to be
> > put in the /etc/fstab
>
> What type of partition? Let's say it's a FAT on /dev/hda6 that you want
> to mount in /partition:
>
> fstab:
> /dev/hda6 /partition vfat umask=0,iocharset=utf8,codepage=852 0 0
>
> then you create a /partition directory and mount:
> mkdir /partition
> mount /partition
>
> I think this should work.
> For more information about the options check the manual:
> man mount

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that he's asking if a single partition 
can be mounted as utf8 when others aren't.

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Re: [newbie] partition mounting

[Thereidos]

W liście z czw, 14-10-2004, godz. 08:08, kress pisze: 
> Dear members,
> Can any one tell me how to mount a partition under mandrake 9.0 to be
> read as isocharset utf8, and I want to know the full mount form to be
> put in the /etc/fstab

What type of partition? Let's say it's a FAT on /dev/hda6 that you want
to mount in /partition:

fstab:
/dev/hda6 /partition vfat umask=0,iocharset=utf8,codepage=852 0 0

then you create a /partition directory and mount:
mkdir /partition
mount /partition

I think this should work.
For more information about the options check the manual:
man mount
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Dear members,
Can any one tell me how to mount a partition under mandrake 9.0 to be read as isocharset utf8, and I want to know the full mount form to be put in the /etc/fstab
 
thanks a lot
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Re: [newbie] Partition Magic 7 for Linux Native Partitions (bad partition table)

[Thereidos]

Dnia śro 21. lipca 2004 07:26, Erylon Hines napisał:
> On Tuesday 20 July 2004 03:53 pm, Roberto Ramsis wrote:
> | For the 1st time i use Partition Magic 7.0 (Win98) to make my Linux
> | Native partition ,I made it primary,after "Uncompressing the kernel" the
> | PC just hangs . The problem is i can't let the MDK9.2 setup wizard do
> | it,cuz this way ,both windows and partition magic can never see the
> | partition table again and give partition table error. Using fdisk from
> | knoppix
> | hdb1 c win95 fat32
> | hdb2 f win95 Ext'd LBA
> | hdb3 83 Linux
> | hdb4 82 Linux Swap
> | hdb5 b Win95 FAT32
> | hdb6 b Win95 FAT32
>
> The way that I would have done it:
>
> Use partition magic to move all active Windows partitions to the front of
> the drive and re-order the drive designations if necessary (C:, D:, E:,
> etc). Shrink the Windows partitions to leave free space at the end of the
> drive. Make the free space into a single fat32 partition.  When everything
> looks right from windows and Partition Magic, uninstall partition magic. 
> Boot with the Mandrake boot CD and use diskdrake to create the Linux
> partitions in the unused fat32 partition at the end of the drive. Do it
> this way, and you won't have to mess around with hiding partitions, etc.,
> and LILO can handle your boot records.
>
> Partition Magic can be useful (I keep a copy around), but it has
> limitations, one of which is that it can only create Linux ext2 and I
> always use and recommend a journaling system (I use ReiserFS).  Another is,
> it can interact with diskdrake and cause partition table errors.  Diskdrake
> is a very good tool,  but it can mess up the Partiton Magic tables--that's
> why I don't leave PM on my disks after I'm done with it.

Two words, If I way.
As mentioned above, move windows' partitions to the front but don't create any 
fat32 partition, just leave unused space over there. Then boot from Mandrake 
CD and create swap and linux native from that free space... It worked at my 
box...
And the second is that Partition Magic 8 recognize and can create ext3, though 
changing anything with PM really messes up Diskdrake's tables...
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Re: [newbie] Partition Magic 7 for Linux Native Partitions (bad partition table)

[Charlie]

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:53 am, Roberto Ramsis sent these thoughts:
> For the 1st time i use Partition Magic 7.0 (Win98) to make my Linux Native
> partition ,I made it primary,after "Uncompressing the kernel" the PC just
> hangs . The problem is i can't let the MDK9.2 setup wizard do it,cuz this
> way ,both windows and partition magic can never see the partition table
> again and give partition table error. Using fdisk from knoppix
> hdb1 c win95 fat32
> hdb2 f win95 Ext'd LBA
> hdb3 83 Linux
> hdb4 82 Linux Swap
> hdb5 b Win95 FAT32
> hdb6 b Win95 FAT32
>
>
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It has been sometime that I used Partition Magic 7, but certainly it gives 
table errors when Diskdrake formats them, but if you want you can have it 
correct them and diskdrake will either correct them again, or do nothing and 
Mandrake will boot just the same.

I used partition magic 7.0 to format all the partitions on the drive, the win 
98, win 2000, in my case, at the front of the drive, then all the linux 
partition's after that as ext2 which is the only way that it can format linux 
natives. Then install Linux O/S and have it format the partitions you're 
using for those as you create and give the mount points. Then as above:- 
either never look at them again with partition magic or allow it to fix the 
errors it sees and all will be well.

Red Hats diskdruid complains of Mandrake's diskdrake partitioning incorrectly 
as well as partition magic. But usually states that it can work within those 
parameters. So I really don't know how the errors affect anything, other than 
esoterically or pedantically?

Everything still runs, but it is best to have Windows at the front of the 
drive in the first partition.

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Re: [newbie] Partition Magic 7 for Linux Native Partitions (bad partition table)

[Erylon Hines]

On Tuesday 20 July 2004 03:53 pm, Roberto Ramsis wrote:
| For the 1st time i use Partition Magic 7.0 (Win98) to make my Linux Native
| partition ,I made it primary,after "Uncompressing the kernel" the PC just
| hangs . The problem is i can't let the MDK9.2 setup wizard do it,cuz this
| way ,both windows and partition magic can never see the partition table
| again and give partition table error. Using fdisk from knoppix
| hdb1 c win95 fat32
| hdb2 f win95 Ext'd LBA
| hdb3 83 Linux
| hdb4 82 Linux Swap
| hdb5 b Win95 FAT32
| hdb6 b Win95 FAT32

The way that I would have done it:

Use partition magic to move all active Windows partitions to the front of the 
drive and re-order the drive designations if necessary (C:, D:, E:, etc).  
Shrink the Windows partitions to leave free space at the end of the drive. 
Make the free space into a single fat32 partition.  When everything looks 
right from windows and Partition Magic, uninstall partition magic.  Boot with 
the Mandrake boot CD and use diskdrake to create the Linux partitions in the 
unused fat32 partition at the end of the drive. Do it this way, and you won't 
have to mess around with hiding partitions, etc., and LILO can handle your 
boot records.

Partition Magic can be useful (I keep a copy around), but it has limitations, 
one of which is that it can only create Linux ext2 and I always use and 
recommend a journaling system (I use ReiserFS).  Another is, it can interact 
with diskdrake and cause partition table errors.  Diskdrake is a very good 
tool,  but it can mess up the Partiton Magic tables--that's why I don't leave 
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[Roberto Ramsis]

For the 1st time i use Partition Magic 7.0 (Win98) to make my Linux Native partition ,I made it primary,after "Uncompressing the kernel" the PC just hangs .The problem is i can't let the MDK9.2 setup wizard do it,cuz this way ,both windows and partition magic can never see the partition table again and give partition table error.
Using fdisk from knoppixhdb1 c win95 fat32hdb2 f win95 Ext'd LBAhdb3 83 Linuxhdb4 82 Linux Swaphdb5 b Win95 FAT32hdb6 b Win95 FAT32
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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Glenn]

On Monday 28 June 2004 11:50, Richard Urwin wrote:

>
> http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&r
>eq=viewarticle&artid=222
>
> Or if that splits badly:
> http://tinyurl.com/2ph56

Thanks for that link.  Why didn't I know about this site long ago ?


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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Hoyt Bailey]

On Monday 28 June 2004 15:28, Scott Mazur wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:14:43 -0500, Hoyt Bailey wrote
> > On Monday 28 June 2004 12:56, Scott Mazur wrote:
> > > As another personal preference, I always create a single partition 
> > mounted 
> > > as /system at 1g size.  I use this partiton to keep custom scripts 
> > (like 
> > > backup/recovery and setup), copies of config files, browser links, 
> > misc 
> > > info, etc.  It's just big enough to be useful without taking up to 
> > much 
> > > space.  It's my permanent storage area.  Between installs and 
upgrades 
> > I can 
> > > wipe every other partition (including /home) if I have to, without 
> > loosing 
> > > all my own hard work.  I'm also guaranteed that no other 
> > install/ugrade 
> > > process will try to touch my stuff.
> > > 
> > And when your HD goes to the happy hunting ground what then.
> 
> The /system partition gets copied entirely to the /backup/hda 
partition, 
> which in turn is copied directly to the /backup/hdb partition (second 
> drive).  /backup/hda is also copied entirely to a second box, which in 
turn 
> keeps it safe by duplicating it on two drives.  It's maybe excessive 
> redundancy (and wasted disk space), but nothing short of my house 
burning 
> down is ever going to knock out 4 drives in 2 boxes (knock on wood).  
And if 
> my house burns down, well then I've got more things to worry about 
than the 
> melted cdrom/tape backups I had sitting on the shelf.  /system never 
really 
> goes away ;)
> 
> Actually the scripts I keep in /system are far more involved.  They 
also 
> catalogue users, installed RPMS, network settings and modify server 
config 
> files (apache, named, nfs, postfix, shorewall, etc).  In fact 
the /system 
> directory (and a full /backup)is all I need to bring a blank box up to 
full 
> running and configured status with the minumum fuss (the important 
stuff 
> anyway).  Makes upgrading a breeze (or at least repeatable).  It's 
really 
> nice to just click through the default install cdroms then let the 
scripts 
> in /system take over (post-install) to install/configure the missing 
pieces 
> to bring the machine back to my prefered settings.
> 
> Scott
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> 
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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Monday 28 June 2004 23:24, Frank Bax wrote:
> At 03:59 PM 6/27/04, John Drouhard wrote:
> >I got a new hard drive today. (yay!) It is 160 GB Maxtor and I
> > don't know how to chop it up.
>
> Are you the only user and you have no remote access (apache,
> mail, ftp, etc) services running?   Go with one big partition. 
> Multiple partitions are for protecting various parts of your
> system from crashing if a service goes out of control and takes
> all the disk space.  A separate home paritition will allow system
> services to continue running even though a user might take all
> available space for his files.  If it's your own system and
> something goes wild, just boot from CDROM, fix problem and reboot
> again.  With separate partitions you may be able to keep some
> services running while fixing a problem with single service, but
> if that situation will never happen (like on a home use machine)
> don't bother with so many partitions.

Sorry, but I have to disagree. One of the - innurable - advantages 
of having separate partitions is the ease of upgrading. Having a 
separate /home partition rather than a /home directory makes is a 
snap to install system upgrades : just don't format the /home 
partition and everything installs, leaving your settings, documents 
and whatnot intact, ready for use, sparing you the hazzle of making 
backups prior to upgrading.

At least I would recommend :

a / partition around 5-10 GB
a /swap partition equal to the RAM size
a /home partition for the remaining disk space

An additional partition for backups, sharing and one thing and 
another often comes in handy. Call it /misc or something. And make 
its file system FAT32.

Just my 0,02 ¤

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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Frank Bax]

At 03:59 PM 6/27/04, John Drouhard wrote:
I got a new hard drive today. (yay!) It is 160 GB Maxtor and I don't know 
how to chop it up.

Are you the only user and you have no remote access (apache, mail, ftp, 
etc) services running?   Go with one big partition.  Multiple partitions 
are for protecting various parts of your system from crashing if a service 
goes out of control and takes all the disk space.  A separate home 
paritition will allow system services to continue running even though a 
user might take all available space for his files.  If it's your own system 
and something goes wild, just boot from CDROM, fix problem and reboot 
again.  With separate partitions you may be able to keep some services 
running while fixing a problem with single service, but if that situation 
will never happen (like on a home use machine) don't bother with so many 
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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Scott Mazur]

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:14:43 -0500, Hoyt Bailey wrote
> On Monday 28 June 2004 12:56, Scott Mazur wrote:
> > As another personal preference, I always create a single partition 
> mounted 
> > as /system at 1g size.  I use this partiton to keep custom scripts 
> (like 
> > backup/recovery and setup), copies of config files, browser links, 
> misc 
> > info, etc.  It's just big enough to be useful without taking up to 
> much 
> > space.  It's my permanent storage area.  Between installs and upgrades 
> I can 
> > wipe every other partition (including /home) if I have to, without 
> loosing 
> > all my own hard work.  I'm also guaranteed that no other 
> install/ugrade 
> > process will try to touch my stuff.
> > 
> And when your HD goes to the happy hunting ground what then.

The /system partition gets copied entirely to the /backup/hda partition, 
which in turn is copied directly to the /backup/hdb partition (second 
drive).  /backup/hda is also copied entirely to a second box, which in turn 
keeps it safe by duplicating it on two drives.  It's maybe excessive 
redundancy (and wasted disk space), but nothing short of my house burning 
down is ever going to knock out 4 drives in 2 boxes (knock on wood).  And if 
my house burns down, well then I've got more things to worry about than the 
melted cdrom/tape backups I had sitting on the shelf.  /system never really 
goes away ;)

Actually the scripts I keep in /system are far more involved.  They also 
catalogue users, installed RPMS, network settings and modify server config 
files (apache, named, nfs, postfix, shorewall, etc).  In fact the /system 
directory (and a full /backup)is all I need to bring a blank box up to full 
running and configured status with the minumum fuss (the important stuff 
anyway).  Makes upgrading a breeze (or at least repeatable).  It's really 
nice to just click through the default install cdroms then let the scripts 
in /system take over (post-install) to install/configure the missing pieces 
to bring the machine back to my prefered settings.

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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Hoyt Bailey]

On Monday 28 June 2004 12:56, Scott Mazur wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:06:27 -0500, Hoyt Bailey wrote
> > On Monday 28 June 2004 11:42, Scott Mazur wrote:
> > > On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:19:46 -0500, Hoyt Bailey wrote
> > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12
> > > >   24601004   3389416  19961900  15% /backup
> > > 
> > > Cool!  Someone else with a hankering for a backup partition.
> > > 
> > > I partition every HD with at least one backup partion (usually 
mounted 
> > > on /backup/hda, /backup/hdb, etc) and usually give it 50% of the 
disk 
> > > space.  This way it's at least big enough to save a copy of the 
entire 
> > > working partitions (or a good supply incremental backups), 
although to 
> > be 
> > > honest, 20g backup more than covers my needs.  And more 
importantly, 
> > having 
> > > a backup partition on two drives guarantees you won't be toasted 
> > should one 
> > > drive fail.  Just my personal preferences...
> > > 
> > > I'm curious.  What is the reasoning for splitting /boot at all?  
Why 
> > not 
> > > simply leave it in the root / partition?  I've always seen it 
> > suggested to 
> > > be split into it's own partion, I just don't see the point.
> > > 
> > > Scott
> > > 
> > Cant answer that.   I requested info about partitions and processed 
> > those into what I provided.  No reason other than I didnt know 
> > enough to do it diffenently.  The only reason for having a backup 
> > partition was because that was what was left over and I expected 
> > that to be cleared after transfer to cd-rw.  It worked the first 
> > time and hasnt since.  Now its too big for a single cd and I cant 
> > figure out how to get it on the cd without splitting some files and 
> > randomly placing the others, it would be a nightmare to restore when 
> > it exceeded 24gb.
> 
> So it sounds like the /boot partition is a left over from the "good 
old 
> days" and doesn't apply to anything even moderatly new anymore (died 
with 
> the 10G limit?).
> 
> I'm a big believer in backup up to HD (as opposed to burning disks or 
> dumping to tape).  First by backup up to a dedicated backup partition, 
and 
> even better, syncing 2 backup partitions on separate drives, and even 
better 
> better, syncing the backups to yet another computer (in case the 
entire box 
> fries).  Of course, I've also customized my full (and incremental) 
backup 
> scripts to take care of everything nicely so backing up (and 
restoring) is 
> very convienient.
> 
> As another personal preference, I always create a single partition 
mounted 
> as /system at 1g size.  I use this partiton to keep custom scripts 
(like 
> backup/recovery and setup), copies of config files, browser links, 
misc 
> info, etc.  It's just big enough to be useful without taking up to 
much 
> space.  It's my permanent storage area.  Between installs and upgrades 
I can 
> wipe every other partition (including /home) if I have to, without 
loosing 
> all my own hard work.  I'm also guaranteed that no other 
install/ugrade 
> process will try to touch my stuff.
> 
And when your HD goes to the happy hunting ground what then.

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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Hoyt Bailey]

On Monday 28 June 2004 12:50, Richard Urwin wrote:
> On Monday 28 Jun 2004 6:06 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> > Cant answer that.   I requested info about partitions and processed
> > those into what I provided.  No reason other than I didnt know 
enough
> > to do it diffenently.  The only reason for having a backup partition
> > was because that was what was left over and I expected that to be
> > cleared after transfer to cd-rw.  It worked the first time and hasnt
> > since.  Now its too big for a single cd and I cant figure out how to
> > get it on the cd without splitting some files and randomly placing
> > the others, it would be a nightmare to restore when it exceeded 
24gb.
> 
> 
http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=222
> 
> Or if that splits badly:
> http://tinyurl.com/2ph56
> 
Which it very likely will.  Thanks for the reference it might help.

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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Scott Mazur]

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:06:27 -0500, Hoyt Bailey wrote
> On Monday 28 June 2004 11:42, Scott Mazur wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:19:46 -0500, Hoyt Bailey wrote
> > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12
> > >   24601004   3389416  19961900  15% /backup
> > 
> > Cool!  Someone else with a hankering for a backup partition.
> > 
> > I partition every HD with at least one backup partion (usually mounted 
> > on /backup/hda, /backup/hdb, etc) and usually give it 50% of the disk 
> > space.  This way it's at least big enough to save a copy of the entire 
> > working partitions (or a good supply incremental backups), although to 
> be 
> > honest, 20g backup more than covers my needs.  And more importantly, 
> having 
> > a backup partition on two drives guarantees you won't be toasted 
> should one 
> > drive fail.  Just my personal preferences...
> > 
> > I'm curious.  What is the reasoning for splitting /boot at all?  Why 
> not 
> > simply leave it in the root / partition?  I've always seen it 
> suggested to 
> > be split into it's own partion, I just don't see the point.
> > 
> > Scott
> > 
> Cant answer that.   I requested info about partitions and processed 
> those into what I provided.  No reason other than I didnt know 
> enough to do it diffenently.  The only reason for having a backup 
> partition was because that was what was left over and I expected 
> that to be cleared after transfer to cd-rw.  It worked the first 
> time and hasnt since.  Now its too big for a single cd and I cant 
> figure out how to get it on the cd without splitting some files and 
> randomly placing the others, it would be a nightmare to restore when 
> it exceeded 24gb.

So it sounds like the /boot partition is a left over from the "good old 
days" and doesn't apply to anything even moderatly new anymore (died with 
the 10G limit?).

I'm a big believer in backup up to HD (as opposed to burning disks or 
dumping to tape).  First by backup up to a dedicated backup partition, and 
even better, syncing 2 backup partitions on separate drives, and even better 
better, syncing the backups to yet another computer (in case the entire box 
fries).  Of course, I've also customized my full (and incremental) backup 
scripts to take care of everything nicely so backing up (and restoring) is 
very convienient.

As another personal preference, I always create a single partition mounted 
as /system at 1g size.  I use this partiton to keep custom scripts (like 
backup/recovery and setup), copies of config files, browser links, misc 
info, etc.  It's just big enough to be useful without taking up to much 
space.  It's my permanent storage area.  Between installs and upgrades I can 
wipe every other partition (including /home) if I have to, without loosing 
all my own hard work.  I'm also guaranteed that no other install/ugrade 
process will try to touch my stuff.


Scott

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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Richard Urwin]

On Monday 28 Jun 2004 6:06 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> Cant answer that.   I requested info about partitions and processed
> those into what I provided.  No reason other than I didnt know enough
> to do it diffenently.  The only reason for having a backup partition
> was because that was what was left over and I expected that to be
> cleared after transfer to cd-rw.  It worked the first time and hasnt
> since.  Now its too big for a single cd and I cant figure out how to
> get it on the cd without splitting some files and randomly placing
> the others, it would be a nightmare to restore when it exceeded 24gb.

http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=222

Or if that splits badly:
http://tinyurl.com/2ph56


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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Hoyt Bailey]

On Monday 28 June 2004 11:42, Scott Mazur wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:19:46 -0500, Hoyt Bailey wrote
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12
> >   24601004   3389416  19961900  15% /backup
> 
> Cool!  Someone else with a hankering for a backup partition.
> 
> I partition every HD with at least one backup partion (usually mounted 
> on /backup/hda, /backup/hdb, etc) and usually give it 50% of the disk 
> space.  This way it's at least big enough to save a copy of the entire 
> working partitions (or a good supply incremental backups), although to 
be 
> honest, 20g backup more than covers my needs.  And more importantly, 
having 
> a backup partition on two drives guarantees you won't be toasted 
should one 
> drive fail.  Just my personal preferences...
> 
> I'm curious.  What is the reasoning for splitting /boot at all?  Why 
not 
> simply leave it in the root / partition?  I've always seen it 
suggested to 
> be split into it's own partion, I just don't see the point.
> 
> Scott
> 
Cant answer that.   I requested info about partitions and processed 
those into what I provided.  No reason other than I didnt know enough 
to do it diffenently.  The only reason for having a backup partition 
was because that was what was left over and I expected that to be 
cleared after transfer to cd-rw.  It worked the first time and hasnt 
since.  Now its too big for a single cd and I cant figure out how to 
get it on the cd without splitting some files and randomly placing the 
others, it would be a nightmare to restore when it exceeded 24gb.

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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Scott Mazur wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:19:46 -0500, Hoyt Bailey wrote
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12
 24601004   3389416  19961900  15% /backup

Cool!  Someone else with a hankering for a backup partition.
I partition every HD with at least one backup partion (usually mounted 
on /backup/hda, /backup/hdb, etc) and usually give it 50% of the disk 
space.  This way it's at least big enough to save a copy of the entire 
working partitions (or a good supply incremental backups), although to be 
honest, 20g backup more than covers my needs.  And more importantly, having 
a backup partition on two drives guarantees you won't be toasted should one 
drive fail.  Just my personal preferences...

I'm curious.  What is the reasoning for splitting /boot at all?  Why not 
simply leave it in the root / partition?  I've always seen it suggested to 
be split into it's own partion, I just don't see the point.

Scott
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The main reasion has to do with boot managers, and BIOS limits.  Having 
a seperate /boot partition let you put it near the start of the disk, so 
boot managers that use the BIOS to load could be sure of being able to 
load their files.  The old 1024 cylinder limit on older machines, and 
the drive size limits on some BIOS.  While Linux can see the entire 
drive, even if the BIOS can not, LILO, and to a lesser extent Grub use 
the BIOS to load, and so their files need to be in the part of the drive 
the BIOS can access.  If your BIOS can see the full drive, then it 
probably will not be a problem.  (Old habits die hard!)

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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Scott Mazur]

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:19:46 -0500, Hoyt Bailey wrote
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12
>   24601004   3389416  19961900  15% /backup

Cool!  Someone else with a hankering for a backup partition.

I partition every HD with at least one backup partion (usually mounted 
on /backup/hda, /backup/hdb, etc) and usually give it 50% of the disk 
space.  This way it's at least big enough to save a copy of the entire 
working partitions (or a good supply incremental backups), although to be 
honest, 20g backup more than covers my needs.  And more importantly, having 
a backup partition on two drives guarantees you won't be toasted should one 
drive fail.  Just my personal preferences...

I'm curious.  What is the reasoning for splitting /boot at all?  Why not 
simply leave it in the root / partition?  I've always seen it suggested to 
be split into it's own partion, I just don't see the point.

Scott

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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[John Drouhard]

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 18:30:51 -0500
"Mikkel L. Ellertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Charles A Edwards wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:02:44 -0400
> > robin wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>You might want to have another 
> >>partition for /etc
> > 
> > 
> > No, do not do that.
> > 
> > The configuration files in /etc must be avaiable during boot and
> > should always remain as part of /
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Charles
> > 
> Normaly, you need /bin, /sbin, and /etc all on the root partition.  It
> is also a good idea to have /root there.  There are ways around having
> /etc in the root partition, but they usualy are not worth the trouble,
> unless you are doing something like booting a diskless workstation, or
> running off a CD.
> 
> Mikkel
>


Ok, this is what I was thinking:

/boot   500 MB
/   15 GB
/usr25 GB
swap400 MB
/home   35 GB
/misc   84 GB

That will give me enough room to rip a few dvd's and still have plenty
of room on my home partition :-). Does this look good?

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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Charles A Edwards wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:02:44 -0400
robin wrote:

You might want to have another 
partition for /etc

No, do not do that.
The configuration files in /etc must be avaiable during boot and should
always remain as part of /

Charles
Normaly, you need /bin, /sbin, and /etc all on the root partition.  It 
is also a good idea to have /root there.  There are ways around having 
/etc in the root partition, but they usualy are not worth the trouble, 
unless you are doing something like booting a diskless workstation, or 
running off a CD.

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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[Charles A Edwards]

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:02:44 -0400
robin wrote:

> You might want to have another 
> partition for /etc

No, do not do that.

The configuration files in /etc must be avaiable during boot and should
always remain as part of /



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Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?

[robin]

John Drouhard wrote:
I got a new hard drive today. (yay!) It is 160 GB Maxtor and I don't 
know how to chop it up.

Currently I have a 40 GB:
/dev/hda1275 MB/boot
/dev/hda56.44 GB/
/dev/hda68.64 GB/usr
/dev/hda7400 MBswap
/dev/hda811.06 GB/home
/dev/hda910.49 GB/misc (partition for storing downloads,
backups, and other random stuff)
I would like to keep the same general partitioning scheme, but I don't 
know whether I should have it in so many pieces. If I just have a /boot, 
/, and a /misc, then everything can share in one large partition and I 
wouldn't have to worry about being low on space for one and tons of 
space on another. (my /home is tight on space, but my /usr has about 5 
GB free)

Sorry if this is confusing, but if anyone has any suggestions, I would 
appreciate them...
With 160GB, it doesn't really matter how you chop it up, you'll still 
have loads of room. I'd put a bit more into /usr just in case you want 
to install some new application larger than anything yet known, and 
divide the rest between /home and /misc. You might want to have another 
partition for /etc (I'm told this means you can do an install without 
scratching your existing settings, but I've never tried it).

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[newbie] partition suggestions?

[John Drouhard]

I got a new hard drive today. (yay!) It is 160 GB Maxtor and I don't 
know how to chop it up.

Currently I have a 40 GB:
/dev/hda1   275 MB  /boot
/dev/hda5   6.44 GB /
/dev/hda6   8.64 GB /usr
/dev/hda7   400 MB  swap
/dev/hda8   11.06 GB/home
/dev/hda9   10.49 GB/misc (partition for storing downloads,
backups, and other random stuff)
I would like to keep the same general partitioning scheme, but I don't 
know whether I should have it in so many pieces. If I just have a /boot, 
/, and a /misc, then everything can share in one large partition and I 
wouldn't have to worry about being low on space for one and tons of 
space on another. (my /home is tight on space, but my /usr has about 5 
GB free)

Sorry if this is confusing, but if anyone has any suggestions, I would 
appreciate them...

thanks,
john

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Re: [newbie] Partition Failure. PLEASE HELP!!!

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On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 02:24, et wrote:
> On Friday 07 March 2003 10:09 am, Christopher Steimer wrote:
> > I have recently purchased a book, SAMS Teach Yourself LINUX In 24 Hours, in
> > order to inroduce myself to LINUX and all it has to offer. It comes with
> > Linux-Mandrake 7.1, GPL Edition.
> >
> > I also just purchased a used Dell Pentium II, 450MHz, 128MB RAM, 8G hard
> > drive off of EBay.
> > When attempting to install LINUX on the machine, I am unable to partition
> > the hard drive. I recieve an error message at the beginning of the
> > partition process that says something about the disk being too corrupted
> > and also receive the following error message when I try to Auto Allocate:
> >
> > [Writing of partition table failed at
> > /usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table.pm line 442]
> >
> > I am new to this, and would like any assistance possible. But go easy on
> > me, cuz I'm just starting.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > __
> 
> 
> 
> boy this is an old version,,, but it is about the same age as your box.
> My first suggestion would be to try and upgrade to a more recent version. 
> That said, try and start over, this time instead of "recomended" go for 
> "expert" and do not attempt to "auto allocate". and also if you are 
> attempting to keep win on this box, first boot into windows, back up 
> everything, and run defrag befor attempting to install linux. study up on how 
> hard drives can be partitoned in linux first too. 
> 

Sounds like the partitioning is choking on some partition issues - I'd
tend to reckon that doing a manual partition is going to resolve the
issue - OR upgrade the MDK version. Either which, you've already got the
7.1 and want to play with it - so go for the manual partitioning scheme
and see how that goes...

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Re: [newbie] Partition Failure. PLEASE HELP!!!

[civileme]

On Friday 07 March 2003 06:09 am, Christopher Steimer wrote:
> I have recently purchased a book, SAMS Teach Yourself LINUX In 24 Hours, in
> order to inroduce myself to LINUX and all it has to offer. It comes with
> Linux-Mandrake 7.1, GPL Edition.
>
> I also just purchased a used Dell Pentium II, 450MHz, 128MB RAM, 8G hard
> drive off of EBay.
> When attempting to install LINUX on the machine, I am unable to partition
> the hard drive. I recieve an error message at the beginning of the
> partition process that says something about the disk being too corrupted
> and also receive the following error message when I try to Auto Allocate:
>
> [Writing of partition table failed at
> /usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table.pm line 442]
>
> I am new to this, and would like any assistance possible. But go easy on
> me, cuz I'm just starting.
>
> Thank you!
>
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WOW, 7.1 rides again!

If you want to have both windows and linux on your system, you need to make 
partitions for each to exist on.

If you want only linux, there should be no problem scrubbing the disk.  You 
can do that with fdisk, and you can get to fdisk this way:

boot from CD

at splash screen, type F1

at text screen type

rescue

Then you will have a very basic linux running on your machine

type

fdisk /dev/hda

type m for a menu of what you can do

p 

to print partition table

d

to delete every numbered partition

w 

to write to disk and exit

then reboot and let it come up from the floppy

You can make a partition table by starting the install then resetting after it 
finishes the formatting stage, even making room for a fat32 partition at the 
beginning of the disk.

There are mistakes to avoid

1) if you want windows once you have made a valid partition table, install 
windows first or else prepare for another educational experience.

2) You do NOT need to make a linux extended partition, ever.  This early 
version will read your partition table as corrupt if you do.  (That was all 
fixed by 8.1 after I joined mandrakesoft and showed the developers the many 
ways of breaking a partition table and they closed the holes). Just let 
diskdrake default to whatever partition method it chooses except prefer a 
primary partition for the FIRST (windows) partition if you intend to use 
windows on the same machine.

3) If the Dell has a WD (Western Digital) disk drive of 20Gb or larger, then 
use Mandrake 8.0 or later.  There was a problem with an overzealous disk 
geometry optimizer which would produce Cylinder Head and Sector numbers 
different from what the BIOS would select with interesting results, but only 
on drives with a single platter and two heads.  There is a kernel message 
override for CHS numbers, but someone else will have to clue you in to that 
one. (Hey folks, here's a chance to get one up on Civ)

Civileme

BTW, you can get the download edition of 9.0 from Cheapbytes or similar for 
very little money, all 3 CDs of it.  I have a 7.1 left here which I use for 
older notebooks cause nothing was ever as beautiful before or since than KDE 
1.1.2 with all those wonderful themes, but I am not parting with it, and I 
don't have any blanks to burn extra copies.


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Re: [newbie] Partition Failure. PLEASE HELP!!!

[James R. McKenzie]

Either download the ISO's of the latest stable version of LM or order the
disks from www.cheapbytes.com and try it again.  BTW are you sure the
disk[s] you got with the book are good, and is the ROM drive in good working
order.  Sometimes the obvious answer is the correct one, and sometimes the
simple one is.  Just my no-cent's worth.

8-{>


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Partition Failure. PLEASE HELP!!!


On Friday 07 March 2003 10:09 am, Christopher Steimer wrote:
> I have recently purchased a book, SAMS Teach Yourself LINUX In 24 Hours,
in
> order to inroduce myself to LINUX and all it has to offer. It comes with
> Linux-Mandrake 7.1, GPL Edition.
>
> I also just purchased a used Dell Pentium II, 450MHz, 128MB RAM, 8G hard
> drive off of EBay.
> When attempting to install LINUX on the machine, I am unable to partition
> the hard drive. I recieve an error message at the beginning of the
> partition process that says something about the disk being too corrupted
> and also receive the following error message when I try to Auto Allocate:
>
> [Writing of partition table failed at
> /usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table.pm line 442]
>
> I am new to this, and would like any assistance possible. But go easy on
> me, cuz I'm just starting.
>
> Thank you!
>
> __



boy this is an old version,,, but it is about the same age as your box.
My first suggestion would be to try and upgrade to a more recent version.
That said, try and start over, this time instead of "recomended" go for
"expert" and do not attempt to "auto allocate". and also if you are
attempting to keep win on this box, first boot into windows, back up
everything, and run defrag befor attempting to install linux. study up on
how
hard drives can be partitoned in linux first too.








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Re: [newbie] Partition Failure. PLEASE HELP!!!

[et]

On Friday 07 March 2003 10:09 am, Christopher Steimer wrote:
> I have recently purchased a book, SAMS Teach Yourself LINUX In 24 Hours, in
> order to inroduce myself to LINUX and all it has to offer. It comes with
> Linux-Mandrake 7.1, GPL Edition.
>
> I also just purchased a used Dell Pentium II, 450MHz, 128MB RAM, 8G hard
> drive off of EBay.
> When attempting to install LINUX on the machine, I am unable to partition
> the hard drive. I recieve an error message at the beginning of the
> partition process that says something about the disk being too corrupted
> and also receive the following error message when I try to Auto Allocate:
>
> [Writing of partition table failed at
> /usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table.pm line 442]
>
> I am new to this, and would like any assistance possible. But go easy on
> me, cuz I'm just starting.
>
> Thank you!
>
> __



boy this is an old version,,, but it is about the same age as your box.
My first suggestion would be to try and upgrade to a more recent version. 
That said, try and start over, this time instead of "recomended" go for 
"expert" and do not attempt to "auto allocate". and also if you are 
attempting to keep win on this box, first boot into windows, back up 
everything, and run defrag befor attempting to install linux. study up on how 
hard drives can be partitoned in linux first too. 

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[newbie] Partition Failure. PLEASE HELP!!!

[Christopher Steimer]

I have recently purchased a book, SAMS Teach Yourself LINUX In 24 Hours, in 
order to inroduce myself to LINUX and all it has to offer. It comes with 
Linux-Mandrake 7.1, GPL Edition.

I also just purchased a used Dell Pentium II, 450MHz, 128MB RAM, 8G hard 
drive off of EBay.
When attempting to install LINUX on the machine, I am unable to partition 
the hard drive. I recieve an error message at the beginning of the partition 
process that says something about the disk being too corrupted and also 
receive the following error message when I try to Auto Allocate:

[Writing of partition table failed at 
/usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table.pm line 442]

I am new to this, and would like any assistance possible. But go easy on me, 
cuz I'm just starting.

Thank you!

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Re: [newbie] Partition hell - longish

[FemmeFatale]

At 08:57 AM 1/28/2003 +, you wrote:

On Monday 27 Jan 2003 11:16 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
> At 10:20 PM 1/27/2003 +, you wrote:
> >On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:39 pm, you wrote:
> > > Well, then there's all the more reason to either git'em all working
> > > under MDK or through Win4lin or some other means (VMWare?) - gotta make
> > > it easier on ya kiddo...
> >
> >The odd items of software I need are no problem - win4lin does fine for
> > me. It's just these odd items of hardware, camera, cf/sm reader and a
> > scsi film scanner (though I haven't spent much time on that one yet).  I
> > understand there is an alpha driver that might work for the scanner, so I
> > might try that later.
> >
> >Anne
> >--
> >Registered Linux User No.293302
>
> Heh I'll forward this to the list for you Anne.  Seems you sent it my way
> accidentally :)
>
Thanks Femme - don't know how that happened ;)

Anne
--
Registered Linux User No.293302


np.  Thought you'd like it done that way.

Stephen:  you can't straighten up so don't even try! :)

Yes i'm back far earlier than i hoped.  Seems i'm more mobile than i could 
have hoped to be.  So that means i can get to my computer downstairs for a 
few hours a day. :)

Talk to you all soon i hope.

-
FemmeFatale

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"We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
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Re: [newbie] Partition hell - longish

[Anne Wilson]

On Monday 27 Jan 2003 11:16 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
> At 10:20 PM 1/27/2003 +, you wrote:
> >On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:39 pm, you wrote:
> > > Well, then there's all the more reason to either git'em all working
> > > under MDK or through Win4lin or some other means (VMWare?) - gotta make
> > > it easier on ya kiddo...
> >
> >The odd items of software I need are no problem - win4lin does fine for
> > me. It's just these odd items of hardware, camera, cf/sm reader and a
> > scsi film scanner (though I haven't spent much time on that one yet).  I
> > understand there is an alpha driver that might work for the scanner, so I
> > might try that later.
> >
> >Anne
> >--
> >Registered Linux User No.293302
>
> Heh I'll forward this to the list for you Anne.  Seems you sent it my way
> accidentally :)
>
Thanks Femme - don't know how that happened ;)

Anne
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Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Partition hell - longish

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 10:16, FemmeFatale wrote:

> poor anne meant this for the list.
> -
> FemmeFatale
> 

Shit...she's back. Gotta straighten up again.

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Fwd: Re: [newbie] Partition hell - longish

[FemmeFatale]

On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:39 pm, you wrote:

>
> Well, then there's all the more reason to either git'em all working
> under MDK or through Win4lin or some other means (VMWare?) - gotta make
> it easier on ya kiddo...

The odd items of software I need are no problem - win4lin does fine for me.
It's just these odd items of hardware, camera, cf/sm reader and a scsi film
scanner (though I haven't spent much time on that one yet).  I understand
there is an alpha driver that might work for the scanner, so I might try that
later.

Anne
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poor anne meant this for the list.
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Re: [newbie] Partition hell - longish

[FemmeFatale]

At 10:20 PM 1/27/2003 +, you wrote:

On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:39 pm, you wrote:

>
> Well, then there's all the more reason to either git'em all working
> under MDK or through Win4lin or some other means (VMWare?) - gotta make
> it easier on ya kiddo...

The odd items of software I need are no problem - win4lin does fine for me.
It's just these odd items of hardware, camera, cf/sm reader and a scsi film
scanner (though I haven't spent much time on that one yet).  I understand
there is an alpha driver that might work for the scanner, so I might try that
later.

Anne
--
Registered Linux User No.293302


Heh I'll forward this to the list for you Anne.  Seems you sent it my way 
accidentally :)

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character from Peanuts."

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Re: [newbie] Partition hell - longish

[Anne Wilson]

On Monday 27 Jan 2003 9:39 pm, you wrote:

>
> Well, then there's all the more reason to either git'em all working
> under MDK or through Win4lin or some other means (VMWare?) - gotta make
> it easier on ya kiddo...

The odd items of software I need are no problem - win4lin does fine for me.  
It's just these odd items of hardware, camera, cf/sm reader and a scsi film 
scanner (though I haven't spent much time on that one yet).  I understand 
there is an alpha driver that might work for the scanner, so I might try that 
later.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] partition help for testing 9.1

[Michael Adams]

On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:31, Jerry Barton wrote:
> I'm going to try testing the 9.1 beta but.
> I don't have an empty partition to install to. I DO have a rather large
> /home partition that i could divide.  the question is how, without losing
> data.  The machine is single boot Mdk 9.0.  If there's some detailed howto
> available I'd be ok if pointed to it.  I do have quite a considerable
> amount of data in my /home partition I don't want to lose. TIA
>
> Jerry.

Just restore home from your last weekly backup once you have repartitioned.

Backup, backup, & backup again.

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[newbie] partition help for testing 9.1

[Jerry Barton]

I'm going to try testing the 9.1 beta but. 
I don't have an empty partition to install to. I DO have a rather large /home 
partition that i could divide.  the question is how, without losing data.  The machine 
is single boot Mdk 9.0.  If there's some detailed howto available I'd be ok if pointed 
to it.  I do have quite a considerable amount of data in my /home partition I don't 
want to lose.
TIA

Jerry.


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[newbie] partition

[Norman Zhang]

Hi,

I'm trying to setup my Linux box using RAID. Is it possible to setup Linux
RAID then xfs? Does software RAID means no xfs?

Regards,
Norman





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RE: [newbie] Partition size question

[Cory]

The /usr partition is in fact where 99% of all programs are installed, and
the / (root) partition can be as little as 300 megs, but this is done in
this fashion simply for the purposes of storing configuration files (/etc)
and other system related items (sometimes /var as well where logs are
usually stored). Also, this can help increase security as well if configured
properly. Although a word of advice, being that your drive space is quite
limited, I would lower the size of your swap space to no more than 64 megs
simply because with a 200mh system, what are you going to run that would
require 250+ megs of ram? Odds are that your 64megs will rarely get touched
anyhow!

Cory Grey
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www.cpx.ca
(604) 575-0983

 -Original Message-
From:   Dan W. Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, June 07, 2002 5:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] Partition size question

 << File: message.footer >> I'm brand new to Linux and new to this list.
Been playing around for last
couple of weeks with an install of Mandrake 8.2.  The hardware is an older
HP Vectra.  200 MHz Pent.; 80 meg RAM; integrated video (S3 Trio); one 1.5
G, and one 1.2 G hard drive.

The 1.5 G drive is partitioned with a (about) 800 meg NT partition, a Linux
/ partition of almost 500 meg and a Linux swap of about 170 m.  The second
drive (slave on the IDE channel) is entirely the /usr partition.

I've reinstalled Linux several times.  Each as an experiment and learning
tool.  During the package install phase, the installer tells me I have about
1200 or so mb to install the packages in.  That appears to be the /usr
partition as it's followed the sizing of that partition each time I've
varied it.  So, if all installed apps go into that partition, what takes up
the room in the root partition?  The documentation says that about 300 mb is
generally enough for the / partition.  Is there no room for anything else on
this partition?


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[newbie] Partition size question

[Dan W. Dooley]

I'm brand new to Linux and new to this list.  Been playing around for last
couple of weeks with an install of Mandrake 8.2.  The hardware is an older
HP Vectra.  200 MHz Pent.; 80 meg RAM; integrated video (S3 Trio); one 1.5
G, and one 1.2 G hard drive.

The 1.5 G drive is partitioned with a (about) 800 meg NT partition, a Linux
/ partition of almost 500 meg and a Linux swap of about 170 m.  The second
drive (slave on the IDE channel) is entirely the /usr partition.

I've reinstalled Linux several times.  Each as an experiment and learning
tool.  During the package install phase, the installer tells me I have about
1200 or so mb to install the packages in.  That appears to be the /usr
partition as it's followed the sizing of that partition each time I've
varied it.  So, if all installed apps go into that partition, what takes up
the room in the root partition?  The documentation says that about 300 mb is
generally enough for the / partition.  Is there no room for anything else on
this partition?


Dan W. Dooley  WB5TKA  Bedford, Texas
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Re: [newbie] Partition Check Hangs

[Tom Brinkman]

On Wednesday 22 May 2002 08:41 am, K Montgomery wrote:
> Civileme,
>
> Problem is now solved.  I dropped my clock rate back to normal
> (350, ) and I got past the hanging point.  Then I think I
> got as far as selecting the security level, and the fsck of my
> Linux partitions kept giving a "code 4 or signal 0" error (that may
> not be exact, sorry again).

   Well, FWIW, I started to reply to your post, then saw Civileme had 
already suggested setting the system back to default. That's always 
the first thing to do when you have problems on an oc'd system. I 
don't believe your problem was overclocking per se, but I suspect it 
was due to bad overclocking.  By bad oc'ing, I mean upping the FSB to 
the point of getting the PCI bus all harddrives run on, way out'a 
spec.  IOW's 3.5x126 (442mhz) is a terrible oc, the PCI is then 126/3 
or 42mhz, and drive corruption is inevitable, probly takin the video 
card with it (agp or pci).

   The only good oc for a PII 350 is to up the FSB all the way to 133 
mhz. That gives you 3.5x133 == 467 mhz.  The clock generator on the 
mobo will then switch from 100/3 to 133/4, both which equal 33 mhz 
for the PCI bus, and right on spec.  Same for the AGP (which runs on 
PCI).  I suspect you were usin a FSB somewhere less than 133, but 
substantially over 112, and your PCI was consequently way off spec. 
Fsck's up all kind's of stuff, but mainly drives, IDE, SCSI, or CD.
SCSI drives, Maxtor, Seagate, and Fujitsu are the least tolerant. 
Probly couldn't even stand 112 (37mhz PCI bus). 

So, make a memtest86 floppy, set the FSB to 133, and boot 
memtest86, from floppy, not harddrive. If your ram will do 133mhz you 
should be fine.  Set it to 3-3-3, if memtest86 returns no errors then 
you can try Cas2 (2-3-3). A quality mobo is a must, as is a good 
heatsink/fan on the cpu. The PII was all the same core (Deschutes) 
from 333 thru 450 mhz.  If you've got a decent 350 it should do 467 
without complaint.  Anything less than 467, and over 392, you'll have 
bad problems. Mostly true for Intel chipset boards (BX), VIA chipset 
boards allow for switching to a 1/4 PCI divider at 126 to 133+ FSB. 
The main idea is to keep your PCI bus within a few mhz of 33.

   If all the above is about as clear as mud, consider not oc'ing ;)
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Re: [newbie] Partition Check Hangs

[K Montgomery]

Civileme,

Problem is now solved.  I dropped my clock rate back to normal (350,
) and I got past the hanging point.  Then I think I got as far as
selecting the security level, and the fsck of my Linux partitions kept
giving a "code 4 or signal 0" error (that may not be exact, sorry
again).

So I booted rescue and fsck'ed my partitions manually, correcting errors
like no "lost+found" and several other things.  I was then able to
complete the install successfully.

FYI, the "ide0=noautotune" didn't seem to have a visible effect and I
found the hard drive CHS values reported by the BIOS and fdisk were the
same.  Thanks for steering me in the right direction, and for the
valuable hard drive info.  (I assembled this machine long before I even
considered Linux.)

- Kathy

> From: civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Partition Check Hangs
> Date: 17 May 2002 12:01:05 -0800
> 
> That is really a partition check hang.
> 
> 1. Drop your clock rate.
> 
> 2. make sure you have a 40-pin cable on the drive, not an 80 to limit 
> UDMA to 33MHz or less.
> 
> 3.  Next drive acquisition, please consider NOT buying a brand which 
> supports (officially) only Windows and Solaris (and the Solaris for SCSI 
> drives at that).  There is more trouble with WDs than all the others 
> combined, in linux.
> 
> 4.  F1 at the splash screen and
> 
> linux ide0=noautotune
> 
> because WDs usually rate themselves higher than they run well at.
> 
> (Example WD200AB on a PIII 933 with VIA KT133A running RH 7.1 was set to 
> UDMA66 and producing a rousing 1.6M/sec when tested with
> 
> hdparm -t /dev/hda
> 
> 5.  By dropping the data rate to 33MHz, a slight performance 
> improbvement was noted, from a 1.6Mb/s at 66 to 9.4 Mb/s at 33. 
>  Obviously there were many errors and rereads at the higher speed.
> 
> Finally on some WDs, there is a problem with estimation--since they are 
> single-platter with two heads physically, their Cylinder, Head ans 
> Sector numbers for Logical Block Addressing must be calculated.  A few 
> models show more capacity (closer to tru physical capacity) at a 
> solution that provides 240 heads rather than 255.  The difference is 
> between the 32-bit math of the kernel and the 16-bit math of the BIOS.
> 
> So see what the CHS numbers are in the BIOS and compare those to
> 
> F1 at the splash screen and
> 
> rescue
> 
> booting a normal rescue and
> 
> # fdisk -l /dev/hda
> 
> anfd looking at the reported CHS numbers.
> 
> By now, we think we have closed off those approximation errors but there 
> is always the chance that there is a cheap drive out there that we 
> missed in the exception table, and there is a method of overriding the 
> calculated CHS numbers with a kernel message, so check.  If the numbers 
> are different, bingo.
> 
> linux has much tighter timing that Windows in its drivers, so 
> overclocking is often enough to kill a few devices...  It is better 
> unless you have top-notch hardware to run linux at designed clock speeds.
> 
> Civileme





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Re: [newbie] Partition Check Hangs

[civileme]

K Montgomery wrote:

>Serkan and everyone,
>
>I think I have a similar problem. I'm currently running 8.1 and when I
>try to upgrade to 8.2 from CD (booting from floppy), it crashes after I
>tell the install I have no SCSI devices.  Below are some of the messages
>on the screens at the point of the freeze. (Forgive me if I didn't get
>the "F" keys right.)
>
>I have an Abit BH6 motherboard with an Intel PII 350 processor
>(overclocked).  Other hardware includes an internal Iomega ZIP 250 and a
>Western Digital Caviar ~8 GB hard drive (sorry I don't have the exact
>model in front of me).  I tried to follow the advice about disabling
>USB, but I couldn't find an appropriate setting in my BIOS, either.
>
>ALT-F1, last message on screen is:
>
>Entering step `Setup filesystems'
>
>ALT-F3, last few lines on screen read:
>
>* running: /usr/bin/insmod_ 2 >/dev/tty5 /tmp/imm.o
>* warning: insmod'ing module imm failed at
>/usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 625.
>* running: /usr/bin/insmod_ 2 >/dev/tty5 /tmp/ppa.o
>* warning: insmod'ing module ppa failed at
>/usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 625.
>* step `setupSCSI' finished
>* starting step `doPartitionDisks'
>* warning: bad magic number at
>/usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table_empty.pm line 29.
>* found a dos partition table on /dev/hda at sector 0
>* test_for_bad_drives*/dev/hda)
>
>ALT-F4, last few lines:
><4>WARNING - no ppa compatible devices found.
><4>  As of 31/Aug/1998 Iomega started shipping parallel
><4>  port ZIP drives with a different interface which is 
><4>  supported by the imm (ZIP Plus) driver.  If the 
><4>  cable is marked with "AutoDetect", this is what has 
><4>  happened.
>
>ALT-F5:
>/tmp/imm.o: init_module: No such device
>/tmp/ppa.o: init_module: No such device
>
>And finally, I attached a photo of my frozen blue install screen (oh, the irony).
>Hope this turns on a light bulb for someone.
>
>- Kathy
>
>On Thu, 2002-05-16 at 18:24, Serkan Barut wrote: 
>
>>Now i understand your point.But there is no switch for a usb controller in my 
>bios(or is there another way that i dont know how to disable it?)With two other 
>distros,JBLinux and Peanut i had no problem with the partition check process,it just 
>printed a few messages and then went on.Nevertheless i think i would use one of the 
>alt kernels for now.If you hear smth about the subject iwould be pleased to hear 
>about it.
>> 
>>
>>Serkan
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
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That is really a partition check hang.

1. Drop your clock rate.

2. make sure you have a 40-pin cable on the drive, not an 80 to limit 
UDMA to 33MHz or less.

3.  Next drive acquisition, please consider NOT buying a brand which 
supports (officially) only Windows and Solaris (and the Solaris for SCSI 
drives at that).  There is more trouble with WDs than all the others 
combined, in linux.

4.  F1 at the splash screen and

linux ide0=noautotune

because WDs usually rate themselves higher than they run well at.

(Example WD200AB on a PIII 933 with VIA KT133A running RH 7.1 was set to 
UDMA66 and producing a rousing 1.6M/sec when tested with

hdparm -t /dev/hda

5.  By dropping the data rate to 33MHz, a slight performance 
improbvement was noted, from a 1.6Mb/s at 66 to 9.4 Mb/s at 33. 
 Obviously there were many errors and rereads at the higher speed.

Finally on some WDs, there is a problem with estimation--since they are 
single-platter with two heads physically, their Cylinder, Head ans 
Sector numbers for Logical Block Addressing must be calculated.  A few 
models show more capacity (closer to tru physical capacity) at a 
solution that provides 240 heads rather than 255.  The difference is 
between the 32-bit math of the kernel and the 16-bit math of the BIOS.

So see what the CHS numbers are in the BIOS and compare those to

F1 at the splash screen and

rescue

booting a normal rescue and

# fdisk -l /dev/hda

anfd looking at the reported CHS numbers.

By now, we think we have closed off those approximation errors but there 
is always the chance that there is a cheap drive out there that we 
missed in the exception table, and there is a method of overriding the 
calculated CHS numbers with a kernel message, so check.  If the numbers 
are different, bingo.

linux has much tighter timing that Windows in its drivers, so 
overclocking is often enough to kill a few devices...  It is better 
unless you have top-notch hardware to run linux at designed clock speeds.

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Re: [newbie] Partition Check Hangs

[K Montgomery]

Serkan and everyone,

I think I have a similar problem. I'm currently running 8.1 and when I
try to upgrade to 8.2 from CD (booting from floppy), it crashes after I
tell the install I have no SCSI devices.  Below are some of the messages
on the screens at the point of the freeze. (Forgive me if I didn't get
the "F" keys right.)

I have an Abit BH6 motherboard with an Intel PII 350 processor
(overclocked).  Other hardware includes an internal Iomega ZIP 250 and a
Western Digital Caviar ~8 GB hard drive (sorry I don't have the exact
model in front of me).  I tried to follow the advice about disabling
USB, but I couldn't find an appropriate setting in my BIOS, either.

ALT-F1, last message on screen is:

Entering step `Setup filesystems'

ALT-F3, last few lines on screen read:

* running: /usr/bin/insmod_ 2 >/dev/tty5 /tmp/imm.o
* warning: insmod'ing module imm failed at
/usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 625.
* running: /usr/bin/insmod_ 2 >/dev/tty5 /tmp/ppa.o
* warning: insmod'ing module ppa failed at
/usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 625.
* step `setupSCSI' finished
* starting step `doPartitionDisks'
* warning: bad magic number at
/usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table_empty.pm line 29.
* found a dos partition table on /dev/hda at sector 0
* test_for_bad_drives*/dev/hda)

ALT-F4, last few lines:
<4>WARNING - no ppa compatible devices found.
<4>  As of 31/Aug/1998 Iomega started shipping parallel
<4>  port ZIP drives with a different interface which is 
<4>  supported by the imm (ZIP Plus) driver.  If the 
<4>  cable is marked with "AutoDetect", this is what has 
<4>  happened.

ALT-F5:
/tmp/imm.o: init_module: No such device
/tmp/ppa.o: init_module: No such device

And finally, I attached a photo of my frozen blue install screen (oh, the irony).
Hope this turns on a light bulb for someone.

- Kathy

On Thu, 2002-05-16 at 18:24, Serkan Barut wrote: 
> Now i understand your point.But there is no switch for a usb controller in my 
>bios(or is there another way that i dont know how to disable it?)With two other 
>distros,JBLinux and Peanut i had no problem with the partition check process,it just 
>printed a few messages and then went on.Nevertheless i think i would use one of the 
>alt kernels for now.If you hear smth about the subject iwould be pleased to hear 
>about it.
>  
> 
> Serkan
> 

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Re: [newbie] Partition Check Hangs

[Serkan Barut]

Now i understand your point.But there is no switch for a usb controller in my bios(or 
is there another way that i dont know how to disable it?)With two other 
distros,JBLinux and Peanut i had no problem with the partition check process,it just 
printed a few messages and then went on.Nevertheless i think i would use one of the 
alt kernels for now.If you hear smth about the subject iwould be pleased to hear about 
it.
 

Serkan


- Original Message - 
From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Serkan Barut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:10
Subject: Re: [newbie] Partition Check Hangs


> 
> Sorry: I probably did not make myself clear. It was not the presence of USB 
> devices that prevented my installing Mandrake. It was the presence of the USB 
> controller on the motherboard.
> Disabling usb in the BIOS resolved the problem for me. 
> 
> derek
> 
> 
> On Thursday 16 May 2002 5:02 am, Serkan Barut wrote:
> > Well thanks for your answer first.I connected my mouse through the ps/2
> > port via adapter so there was no device left on the usb(keyboard is
> > ps/2),but it still can't pass partition check so it seems it is not related
> > with usb.My mainboard is Abit BX6 rev 2.I never thought that i would have a
> > problem at this stage.I thought that my mouse could be a problem during the
> > install but could never have imagined something like this.Well with other
> > distros partition check was no problem,i am really confused and it seems
> > that there is nothing i can do except using a 2.2.x series kernel during
> > install.Some other guy asked me about my filesystem but it just doesn't
> > make sense,-who knows?
>  
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Serkan Barut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 17:48
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Partition Check Hangs
> > 
> > 
> >
> > > I have had a similar problem on installing 8.2 on my Asus K7V
> > > motherboard.
>  I resolved it as being down to the usb controller. If I
> > > disabled USB during the Mandrake install it would go through the
> > > partition check process no problem.
> > > I could then re-enable usb once the install was completed and then use 
> > > Mandrake Control Centre to install my usb devices.
> > > 
> > > derek
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wednesday 15 May 2002 1:22 pm, Serkan Barut wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have Mandrake Linux 8.2 bluebird-i586 20020317 12:00 which is the
> > > > downloadeble version,i guess.When i boot from the cd to install with
> > > > the
>  default kernel 2.4.18 the machine hangs at the partition check
> > > > process.I waited a long time,more than 20 minutes and did not see any
> > > > message.I played with my bios settings but that changed nothing.Up to
> > > > now i installed other distros including slackware 8,redhat 7.1 and did
> > > > not have any problem of this kind.There is the alt1 and alt2 with which
> > > > i booted safely and at last saw the installation screen but this time
> > > > my mouse and keyboard was not working(i have a logitech pilot optical
> > > > connected to usb probably causing this problem).I have two Quantum ide
> > > > hds.I have Windows98 on hda. If anyone can help i would be
> > > > pleased,thanks.
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> >
> > 
> > 
> > ---
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> > 
> >
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> 
> 





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Re: [newbie] Partition Check Hangs

[Derek Jennings]

Sorry: I probably did not make myself clear. It was not the presence of USB 
devices that prevented my installing Mandrake. It was the presence of the USB 
controller on the motherboard.
Disabling usb in the BIOS resolved the problem for me. 

derek


On Thursday 16 May 2002 5:02 am, Serkan Barut wrote:
> Well thanks for your answer first.I connected my mouse through the ps/2
> port via adapter so there was no device left on the usb(keyboard is
> ps/2),but it still can't pass partition check so it seems it is not related
> with usb.My mainboard is Abit BX6 rev 2.I never thought that i would have a
> problem at this stage.I thought that my mouse could be a problem during the
> install but could never have imagined something like this.Well with other
> distros partition check was no problem,i am really confused and it seems
> that there is nothing i can do except using a 2.2.x series kernel during
> install.Some other guy asked me about my filesystem but it just doesn't
> make sense,-who knows?
 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Serkan Barut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 17:48
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Partition Check Hangs
> 
> 
>
> > I have had a similar problem on installing 8.2 on my Asus K7V
> > motherboard.
 I resolved it as being down to the usb controller. If I
> > disabled USB during the Mandrake install it would go through the
> > partition check process no problem.
> > I could then re-enable usb once the install was completed and then use 
> > Mandrake Control Centre to install my usb devices.
> > 
> > derek
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wednesday 15 May 2002 1:22 pm, Serkan Barut wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have Mandrake Linux 8.2 bluebird-i586 20020317 12:00 which is the
> > > downloadeble version,i guess.When i boot from the cd to install with
> > > the
 default kernel 2.4.18 the machine hangs at the partition check
> > > process.I waited a long time,more than 20 minutes and did not see any
> > > message.I played with my bios settings but that changed nothing.Up to
> > > now i installed other distros including slackware 8,redhat 7.1 and did
> > > not have any problem of this kind.There is the alt1 and alt2 with which
> > > i booted safely and at last saw the installation screen but this time
> > > my mouse and keyboard was not working(i have a logitech pilot optical
> > > connected to usb probably causing this problem).I have two Quantum ide
> > > hds.I have Windows98 on hda. If anyone can help i would be
> > > pleased,thanks.
> >
> > 
> > 
>
> 
> 
> ---
>-
 
> 
>
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Re: [newbie] Partition Check Hangs

[Serkan Barut]

Well thanks for your answer first.I connected my mouse through the ps/2 port via 
adapter so there was no device left on the usb(keyboard is ps/2),but it still can't 
pass partition check so it seems it is not related with usb.My mainboard is Abit BX6 
rev 2.I never thought that i would have a problem at this stage.I thought that my 
mouse could be a problem during the install but could never have imagined something 
like this.Well with other distros partition check was no problem,i am really confused 
and it seems that there is nothing i can do except using a 2.2.x series kernel during 
install.Some other guy asked me about my filesystem but it just doesn't make 
sense,-who knows?


- Original Message - 
From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Serkan Barut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 17:48
Subject: Re: [newbie] Partition Check Hangs


> I have had a similar problem on installing 8.2 on my Asus K7V motherboard.
> I resolved it as being down to the usb controller. If I disabled USB during 
> the Mandrake install it would go through the partition check process no 
> problem.
> I could then re-enable usb once the install was completed and then use 
> Mandrake Control Centre to install my usb devices.
> 
> derek
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 15 May 2002 1:22 pm, Serkan Barut wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I have Mandrake Linux 8.2 bluebird-i586 20020317 12:00 which is the
> > downloadeble version,i guess.When i boot from the cd to install with the
> > default kernel 2.4.18 the machine hangs at the partition check process.I
> > waited a long time,more than 20 minutes and did not see any message.I
> > played with my bios settings but that changed nothing.Up to now i installed
> > other distros including slackware 8,redhat 7.1 and did not have any problem
> > of this kind.There is the alt1 and alt2 with which i booted safely and at
> > last saw the installation screen but this time my mouse and keyboard was
> > not working(i have a logitech pilot optical connected to usb probably
> > causing this problem).I have two Quantum ide hds.I have Windows98 on hda.
> > If anyone can help i would be pleased,thanks.
> 
> 





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Re: [newbie] Partition Check Hangs

[FemmeFatale]

Serkan Barut wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have Mandrake Linux 8.2 bluebird-i586 20020317 12:00 which is the downloadeble 
>version,i guess.When i boot from the cd to install with the default kernel 2.4.18 the 
>machine hangs at the partition check process.I waited a long time,more than 20 
>minutes and did not see any message.I played with my bios settings but that changed 
>nothing.Up to now i installed other distros including slackware 8,redhat 7.1 and did 
>not have any problem of this kind.There is the alt1 and alt2 with which i booted 
>safely and at last saw the installation screen but this time my mouse and keyboard 
>was not working(i have a logitech pilot optical connected to usb probably causing 
>this problem).I have two Quantum ide hds.I have Windows98 on hda.
> If anyone can help i would be pleased,thanks.
> 

If you have a PS2 adapter for that mouse & Keyboard, boot using it.  I
have a problem where if I boot from CD and try to get anything my
mouse/KB dont' work. :\

Had to install with PS2 devices instead *using said adapters*.  Try that
first then re-post if it fails.
-- 
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[newbie] Partition for 8.2

[Michael]

Here is my current (first ever) Dual boot setup for windows and MDK7.1

[michael@localhost michael]$ df
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb5 3.7G  2.5G  1.0G  71% /
/dev/hda1 7.9G  3.3G  4.6G  42% /mnt/win_c
/dev/hda5 7.9G  104k  7.9G   0% /mnt/win_d

Note: i did not partition hdb at all apart from swap which is not shown.

I use my computer for an all purpose home/learning/development tool. I have the
internet connected via modem and Apache running (local only, no network) to test
various things on offline.

I have read the advise given in RUTE and am proposing to destroy /mnt/win_d to
install MDK8.2 on. Here are the partitions i propose. I will on Civilemes advise
use xfs.

swap256MB   #My mem is 128MB
/   100MB   #includes /boot
/var1GB
/tmp100MB
/usr2GB
/home   The rest 

Eventually i will migrate from 7.1 to 8.2 completely. At that time i could move
/usr to hdb (making it read only) and reformat /home to include the extra space
created.

Does anyone have any advice as to pros and cons of my proposed layout.

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Re: [newbie] partition

[paolo brusasco]

Arjan Petersen wrote:

> hello, ive got a question. I trying to use my windows-xp partitions. 
> I've mounted them and in root i can use them. But when i want to use 
> the partition in let's say user: arjan
> I get tthe error that i'm not able or i don't have the rights to use 
> the partition. How can i fix this?
>
> Another question, when i use realplayer in root i get the 
> errormessages that i can't play audio because the audiodevice is 
> already in use by another device.
>
> Please help me with these problems.
>
> arjan
>
>
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Hallo, it won't help you but however I send it.
I posted the same question some days ago and folks answered me:
NO, they think that write to ntfs in mandrake 8.1 is disabled for safety
YES, they think that you can write if you really want but you have to 
modify your kernel
the discussion wento no further.
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Re: [newbie] partition

[Brian Parish]

Arjan,


Regarding the partition question - you need to check two things:

1. That the permissions on the mount point are set to allow user
access.  Type: "ls -l /mnt" (without the quotes). You will see a list of
mount points, one of which corresponds to each W$ partition.  Check that
the permissions are set similarly to this example.  If not, you can
change them as root using the chmod command.  "man chmod" will teach you
al you want to know about that.  Note that you'll need to unmount the
partition before changing the permissions.  As root: "umount /mnt/win_c"
or whatever it's really called.  "mount -a" will remount it for you.

drwxr-xr-x2 root root   48 Mar 15 10:46 win_c/

2. Have a look at your /etc/fstab file.  "cat /etc/fstab"
Your windows mounts (assuming they are FAT32) should look something
like:

/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,user,auto,umask=0 0 0

The "user" bit is probably the thing that's most likely not set.  To
change it:

umount /mnt/win_...
cp /etc/fstab ~/
edit /etc/fstab with your favorite editor
mount -a

If this creates a problem you can't solve and you want to put fstab back
the way it was:

cp ~/fstab /etc/

HTH
Brian


On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 09:27, Arjan Petersen wrote:
> hello, ive got a question. I trying to use my windows-xp partitions. I've 
> mounted them and in root i can use them. But when i want to use the 
> partition in let's say user: arjan
> I get tthe error that i'm not able or i don't have the rights to use the 
> partition. How can i fix this?
> 
> Another question, when i use realplayer in root i get the errormessages that 
> i can't play audio because the audiodevice is already in use by another 
> device.
> 
> Please help me with these problems.
> 
> arjan
> 
> 
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[newbie] partition

[Arjan Petersen]

hello, ive got a question. I trying to use my windows-xp partitions. I've 
mounted them and in root i can use them. But when i want to use the 
partition in let's say user: arjan
I get tthe error that i'm not able or i don't have the rights to use the 
partition. How can i fix this?

Another question, when i use realplayer in root i get the errormessages that 
i can't play audio because the audiodevice is already in use by another 
device.

Please help me with these problems.

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[newbie] partition

[Arjan Petersen]

hello, ive got a question. I trying to use my windows-xp partitions. I've 
mounted them and in root i can use them. But when i want to use the 
partition in let's say user: arjan
I get tthe error that i'm not able or i don't have the rights to use the 
partition. How can i fix this?

Another question, when i use realplayer in root i get the errormessages that 
i can't play audio because the audiodevice is already in use by another 
device.

Please help me with these problems.

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[newbie] Partition Manager

[alex]

  I've been using Partition Manager (Ranish) for about two years and 
have found it to be an excellent partitioner. It has saved the
day for me many times. I've used it to create partitions for a variety 
of operating systems, format them for those sysems,
readjust the sizes, just about anything related to partitions.

There seem to be two partitioners with the name Partition Manager, I'm 
referring to the free one by Ranish.

I was wondering how many other people have had any experience with this 
partitioner or are even aware that it exists.
I don't recall Partition Manager ever being mentioned on this list.

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Re: [newbie] partition woes

[Randy Kramer]

bascule wrote:
> or simply use logical partitions for linux - it doesn't care!
> i shuld have counted myself though:-)
> bascule
> On Thursday 31 January 2002 10:15 am, you wrote:>
> > So, as far as I know, your choices are to install Linux with just / and
> > swap, or on another disk.

And, just for the record, Windows (back as far as Win95, maybe even 3.1)
can access extended partitions (for data and program storage).  AFAIK
you can't install Windows on an extended partition, but I'm not
absolutely sure of that, as I've never tried it.

To make the answer for the original poster more clear, 5 partitions are
not a problem, almost certainly two of them are extended partitions (or
logical partitions -- whatever the right terminology is).

Disks (under Linux and Windows can have up to four primary partitions). 
If you want a fifth partition, one of the primary partitions becomes an
extended partition, and the 4th and 5th partitions (and any more, up to
63 on an IDE disk and 15 on a SCSI disk) are "logical partitions".

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Re: [newbie] partition woes

[bascule]

or simply use logical partitions for linux - it doesn't care!
i shuld have counted myself though:-)
bascule

On Thursday 31 January 2002 10:15 am, you wrote:>
> So, as far as I know, your choices are to install Linux with just / and
> swap, or on another disk.
>
> Brian
>



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Re: [newbie] partition woes

[Brian Parish]

Hey - I actually know the answer to this one!  My fingers have also been
burned!

Being a good linux installer, you created separate partitions for /,
swap and home.  That's 3.  Windows already had 2, so that makes 5.  With
windblows, that's 1 too many.  Four is "as many as anyone could possibly
want" right?  Yes Mr.Gates sir!

I don't know how version dependant this is, but I've certainly seen it
with 2000.  After attempting a similar setup, jumping into the W2K disk
manager shows 5 partitions, but it gets the sizes hopelessly wrong.

I was able to reverse this by blowing away the linux partitions using
the 2K disk manager without losing the windoze data.

So, as far as I know, your choices are to install Linux with just / and
swap, or on another disk.

Brian

On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 13:39, Carl Lafferty wrote:
> Question about partitioning..  Friend has brought his pc to me a few times
> to install Linux on it with mandrake 8.1 being the most recent.  Now his
> comp
> has a 20gig and a 600meg drive.  The 20gig is master and is broken up into
> a 4gig partition and the remaining is a windows data drive.  I used
> partition magic
> 6.0 to resize the roughly 15 gig partition down to something like 8 or 9gig
> so we will have enough to install Linux.  after the resizing is finished we
> booted into windows
> to make sure that his data is still there and the old E drive is down to the
> proper size
> and it is fine.
> 
> Now on to installing Linux.  I break the remaining free space using
> mandrakes
> partitioner during the install.  3gig or so for /, 256M for swap and
> remaining
> for /home.  LM81 installs just FINE (solo-1 audio not supported yet not
> withstanding).
> Problem is, when he boots windows now his old E drive is GONE.  Not there..
> All we have is C and D.
> 
> Since we need the drive for windows (accounting software is there as well
> as some games Linux does not run yet) I end up having to kill the Linux ,
> make a fat-32
> out of the free space and join with the old partition (all this in partition
> magic)
> to get his drives back.
> 
> What are my options to getting his system working.   I fear it is because
> Linux
> makes that extra space into a primary partition.  and that confuses windows
> to
> death...
> 
> Is my only option to resize the C drive to a larger size, kill the "E"
> partition
> and install Linux in that  remaining extended partition??
> 
> Just looking for ideas here.
> 
> 
> --
> I have yet to meet a C compiler that is more friendly and easier to use than
> eating soup with a knife.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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[newbie] partition woes

[Carl Lafferty]

Question about partitioning..  Friend has brought his pc to me a few times
to install Linux on it with mandrake 8.1 being the most recent.  Now his
comp
has a 20gig and a 600meg drive.  The 20gig is master and is broken up into
a 4gig partition and the remaining is a windows data drive.  I used
partition magic
6.0 to resize the roughly 15 gig partition down to something like 8 or 9gig
so we will have enough to install Linux.  after the resizing is finished we
booted into windows
to make sure that his data is still there and the old E drive is down to the
proper size
and it is fine.

Now on to installing Linux.  I break the remaining free space using
mandrakes
partitioner during the install.  3gig or so for /, 256M for swap and
remaining
for /home.  LM81 installs just FINE (solo-1 audio not supported yet not
withstanding).
Problem is, when he boots windows now his old E drive is GONE.  Not there..
All we have is C and D.

Since we need the drive for windows (accounting software is there as well
as some games Linux does not run yet) I end up having to kill the Linux ,
make a fat-32
out of the free space and join with the old partition (all this in partition
magic)
to get his drives back.

What are my options to getting his system working.   I fear it is because
Linux
makes that extra space into a primary partition.  and that confuses windows
to
death...

Is my only option to resize the C drive to a larger size, kill the "E"
partition
and install Linux in that  remaining extended partition??

Just looking for ideas here.


--
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eating soup with a knife.






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fdisk ??? Re: [newbie] partition not mounted at boot.

[Anguo]

In the following HOWTO:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Partition-Rescue/x67.html

I see that the result of fdisk gives a listing of the following format:

Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 523 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdb1 1 153 1228941 83 Linux
/dev/hdb2 154 166 104422+ 82 Linux swap
/dev/hdb3 * 167 291 1004062+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb4 295 523 1839442+ 5 Extended
/dev/hdb5 295 422 1028128+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb6 423 523 811251 6 FAT16

Mine however looks much stranger:

 #fdisk -l

 Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3649
 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

 Device BootStart   EndBlocks
 Id  System
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1   * 1   216   1734988+
 b  Win95 FAT32
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2   217   292610470
 83  Linux
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3   293  2846  20515005
 5  Extended
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4  2202  2583   3068415
 83  Linux
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5   293   342401593+
 82  Linux swap
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6   343  1106   6136798+
 83  Linux
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7   ?224061112815 1253901899
 29  Unknown

I can't use Linux now.
Do you know where does the problem come from and how I could solve it???

I just stumbled on this:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mandrake-Linux/message/1445
"for my hard drive (hda), I have the following symlinks:
/dev/hda ---> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
/dev/hda1 ---> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
/dev/hda2 ---> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2
and so on."
but i don't know if it is relevant at all...

And also following a link from google, I find this quote:
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/SGI/xfs/Release-1.0/RH7.1-SGI-XFS-1.0/RedHat/RP
MS/devfsd-1.3.11-sgi.i386.html
"(DiskDrake won't like /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 instead of
/dev/hda1 ...)"
I used diskdrake to add one partition and my problems started (not
immediately) after that...
The rest of the page doens't give anything helpful though...

I am puzzleder and puzzleder.



thanks,


Anguo







Below is the background information from my previous posts.




> > Linux doesn't mount /home and other important partitions at boot. It
does
> > mount / and /usr though...
> > It does mount win98 c:/ but not d:/  win98 can't read d:/ anymore.
> > There seems to be a problem with my partition table...
> >
> > I am still investigating how I can solve the problem. I found the
> partition
> > rescue mini howto which may or may not be relevant in my case.
> > I'll look more for the answer but if anyone knows where the problem is
and
> > could give me some pointers, I'd be grateful.

> > Would you please post the content of "cat /etc/fstab"

> /dev/hda2 / ext2 defaults 1 1
> /dev/hda7 /archive ext2 defaults 1 2
> none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda9 /files ext2 defaults 1 2
> /dev/hda8 /home ext2 defaults 1 2
> /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom auto
> user,iocharset=iso8859-1,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
> /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto
> user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0
> /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
> /dev/hda10 /mnt/windows2/ vfat umask=0 0 0
> none /proc proc defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda4 /redhat ext2 defaults 1 2
> /dev/hda6 /usr ext2 defaults 1 2
> /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0


> > #df -h
> >
> > FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/hda2 587M  133M  424M  24% /
> > none  125M 0  124M   0% /dev/shm
> > /dev/hda1 1.7G  1.5G  236M  87% /mnt/windows
> > /dev/hda4 2.9G  4.0k  2.7G   1% /redhat
> > /dev/hda6 5.8G  1.6G  3.9G  29% /usr
> >
> >
> > #fdisk -l
> >
> > Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3649
> > cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
> >
> > Device BootStart   EndBlocks
> > Id  System
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1   * 1   216
1734988+
> > b  Win95 FAT32
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2   217   292610470
> > 83  Linux
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3   293  2846  20515005
> > 5  Extended
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4  2202  2583   3068415
> > 83  Linux
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5   293   342
401593+
> > 82  Linux swap
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6   343  1106
6136798+
> > 83  Linux
> > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7   ?224061112815
1253901899
> > 29  Unknown
> >
> > #fdisk -l -u
> >
> > Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3649
> > cylinders
> > Units = sectors of 1 * 512

Re: [newbie] partition not mounted at boot.

[Anguo]

- Original Message -
±H¥óªÌ: Ingo Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Would you please post the content of "cat /etc/fstab"
>
> Ingo

Of course:

/dev/hda2 / ext2 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda7 /archive ext2 defaults 1 2
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda9 /files ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda8 /home ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom auto
user,iocharset=iso8859-1,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto
user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda10 /mnt/windows2/ vfat umask=0 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda4 /redhat ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda6 /usr ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0



> -Original Message-
> From: Anguo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:00 AM
> To: Mandrake Newbie ml
> Subject: [newbie] partition not mounted at boot.
>
>
> Linux doesn't mount /home and other important partitions at boot. It does
> mount / and /usr though...
> It does mount win98 c:/ but not d:/  win98 can't read d:/ anymore.
> There seems to be a problem with my partition table...
>
> I am still investigating how I can solve the problem. I found the
partition
> rescue mini howto which may or may not be relevant in my case.
> I'll look more for the answer but if anyone knows where the problem is and
> could give me some pointers, I'd be grateful.
>
> thanks,
>
> Anguo
>
>
>
>
> #df -h
>
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda2 587M  133M  424M  24% /
> none  125M 0  124M   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda1 1.7G  1.5G  236M  87% /mnt/windows
> /dev/hda4 2.9G  4.0k  2.7G   1% /redhat
> /dev/hda6 5.8G  1.6G  3.9G  29% /usr
>
>
> #fdisk -l
>
> Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3649
> cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device BootStart   EndBlocks
> Id  System
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1   * 1   216   1734988+
> b  Win95 FAT32
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2   217   292610470
> 83  Linux
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3   293  2846  20515005
> 5  Extended
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4  2202  2583   3068415
> 83  Linux
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5   293   342401593+
> 82  Linux swap
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6   343  1106   6136798+
> 83  Linux
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7   ?224061112815 1253901899
> 29  Unknown
>
> #fdisk -l -u
>
> Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3649
> cylinders
> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 bytes
>
> Device BootStart   EndBlocks
> Id  System
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1   *63   3470039   1734988+
> b  Win95 FAT32
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2   3470040   4690979610470
> 83  Linux
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3   4690980  45720989  20515005
> 5  Extended
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4  35359065  41495894   3068415
> 83  Linux
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5   4691043   5494229401593+
> 82  Linux swap
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6   5494293  17767889   6136798+
> 83  Linux
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7   ? -695433982 1812369815
1253901899
> 29  Unknown
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






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RE: [newbie] partition not mounted at boot.

[Ingo Bauer]

Would you please post the content of "cat /etc/fstab"

Ingo

-Original Message-
From: Anguo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:00 AM
To: Mandrake Newbie ml
Subject: [newbie] partition not mounted at boot. 


Linux doesn't mount /home and other important partitions at boot. It does
mount / and /usr though...
It doesn't mount win98 c:/ but not d:/  win98 can't read d:/ anymore.
There seems to be a problem with my partition table...

I am still investigating how I can solve the problem. I found the partition
rescue mini howto which may or may not be relevant in my case.
I'll look more for the answer but if anyone knows where the problem is and
could give me some pointers, I'd be grateful.

thanks,

Anguo




#df -h

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2 587M  133M  424M  24% /
none  125M 0  124M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1 1.7G  1.5G  236M  87% /mnt/windows
/dev/hda4 2.9G  4.0k  2.7G   1% /redhat
/dev/hda6 5.8G  1.6G  3.9G  29% /usr


#fdisk -l

Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3649
cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

Device BootStart   EndBlocks
Id  System
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1   * 1   216   1734988+
b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2   217   292610470
83  Linux
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3   293  2846  20515005
5  Extended
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4  2202  2583   3068415
83  Linux
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5   293   342401593+
82  Linux swap
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6   343  1106   6136798+
83  Linux
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7   ?224061112815 1253901899
29  Unknown

#fdisk -l -u

Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3649
cylinders
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 bytes

Device BootStart   EndBlocks
Id  System
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1   *63   3470039   1734988+
b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2   3470040   4690979610470
83  Linux
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3   4690980  45720989  20515005
5  Extended
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4  35359065  41495894   3068415
83  Linux
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5   4691043   5494229401593+
82  Linux swap
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6   5494293  17767889   6136798+
83  Linux
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7   ? -695433982 1812369815 1253901899
29  Unknown











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[newbie] partition not mounted at boot.

[Anguo]

Linux doesn't mount /home and other important partitions at boot. It does
mount / and /usr though...
It doesn't mount win98 c:/ but not d:/  win98 can't read d:/ anymore.
There seems to be a problem with my partition table...

I am still investigating how I can solve the problem. I found the partition
rescue mini howto which may or may not be relevant in my case.
I'll look more for the answer but if anyone knows where the problem is and
could give me some pointers, I'd be grateful.

thanks,

Anguo




#df -h

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2 587M  133M  424M  24% /
none  125M 0  124M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1 1.7G  1.5G  236M  87% /mnt/windows
/dev/hda4 2.9G  4.0k  2.7G   1% /redhat
/dev/hda6 5.8G  1.6G  3.9G  29% /usr


#fdisk -l

Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3649
cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

Device BootStart   EndBlocks
Id  System
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1   * 1   216   1734988+
b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2   217   292610470
83  Linux
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3   293  2846  20515005
5  Extended
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4  2202  2583   3068415
83  Linux
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5   293   342401593+
82  Linux swap
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6   343  1106   6136798+
83  Linux
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7   ?224061112815 1253901899
29  Unknown

#fdisk -l -u

Disk /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3649
cylinders
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 bytes

Device BootStart   EndBlocks
Id  System
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1   *63   3470039   1734988+
b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2   3470040   4690979610470
83  Linux
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3   4690980  45720989  20515005
5  Extended
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4  35359065  41495894   3068415
83  Linux
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5   4691043   5494229401593+
82  Linux swap
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6   5494293  17767889   6136798+
83  Linux
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7   ? -695433982 1812369815 1253901899
29  Unknown









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Re: [newbie] Partition-setup trickery for a 40 Gb hard drive

[Onur Kucuk]

VVS> Yesterday I bought a 40 Gb hard drive to replace my old 2-gig one.
VVS> The oldish BIOS refuses to detect it so I asked around for alternative
VVS> ways to get the disk working so that I can the olde Win95/Mandrake
VVS> doubleboot on it. I received a helpful reply describing the general
VVS> process, but newbie as I am, I need some help in applying it for
VVS> Mandrake (8.1).

VVS> It's the first step of the process that I can't figure out:
VVS>   "Make a small (10 megs) as /dev/hda1 and mount your Linux boot
VVS>partition there. Do this before you install Windows. Then install
VVS>Windows... [snip]... then install Linux... [snip]"

VVS> OK, so I do what I think it says. I fire up the Mandrake installation utility
VVS> and start setting the system up. When the time comes to create the partitions,
VVS> I make a /boot partition. Then I'm apparently supposed to stop the
VVS> installation procedure, exit the installer and install Windows before
VVS> finishing the Linux install. But the installer won't let me do that: it keeps
VVS> complaining that I should make a /root partition or stuff to that effect. What
VVS> am I misunderstanding here? Can someone give me insight on this?

VVS> (And BTW, the partition size slider in the Mandrake installer is so
VVS> big-grained that it won't let me create a partition smaller than 196
VVS> megs. Is there any way around that?)

VVS> +Cinquo

The installer does not like it because you did not define a root
partition. So the "installer" does not know where to "install". Just
define a 10MB or so /boot , as hda1, then define your windows
partition as hda2 (maybe you will have to make it active) then define
your mandrake root partition.

The trick is that "/boot" and "windows first partition" shall be named
as hda1 and hda2 (or vice versa) and that they are both limited to the
first 8GB. Rest will be managed by lilo and your OS.

For the slider, try the arrow keys on your keyboard.

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[newbie] Partition-setup trickery for a 40 Gb hard drive

[Ville V Sinkko]

Yesterday I bought a 40 Gb hard drive to replace my old 2-gig one.
The oldish BIOS refuses to detect it so I asked around for alternative
ways to get the disk working so that I can the olde Win95/Mandrake
doubleboot on it. I received a helpful reply describing the general
process, but newbie as I am, I need some help in applying it for
Mandrake (8.1).

It's the first step of the process that I can't figure out:
  "Make a small (10 megs) as /dev/hda1 and mount your Linux boot
   partition there. Do this before you install Windows. Then install
   Windows... [snip]... then install Linux... [snip]"

OK, so I do what I think it says. I fire up the Mandrake installation utility
and start setting the system up. When the time comes to create the partitions,
I make a /boot partition. Then I'm apparently supposed to stop the
installation procedure, exit the installer and install Windows before
finishing the Linux install. But the installer won't let me do that: it keeps
complaining that I should make a /root partition or stuff to that effect. What
am I misunderstanding here? Can someone give me insight on this?

(And BTW, the partition size slider in the Mandrake installer is so
big-grained that it won't let me create a partition smaller than 196
megs. Is there any way around that?)

+Cinquo




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Re: [newbie] Partition Magic for Linux

[bascule]

i second not trusting it with ext3, even if you try to 'convert' back to ext2 
before using pm, without converting pm sees the linux drives as having no 
unused space even if you know they are mostly empty! 'converting' first 
allows pm to work but in my case doing a resize caused wierd fsck failures on 
boot up, with ordinary ext2 partitions however pm has never let me down, 
fortunately all my work was backed up so a reinstall took care of that - i 
got all linuxhappy and went bleedin edge cooker too!

bascule
>
> PM, any version, can only be installed if you are running Windows or DOS.
> It does not run on linux and with linux it is limited to performing its
> operations on Ext2 only, it will not work with ReiserFS and I would not
> trust it with Ext3.
>
> If



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Re: [newbie] Partition Magic for Linux

[Charles A Edwards]

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:11:41 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know where I can get a full version of Partition Magic for
> Linux?
> 
> thnx
> 
> Andrew
> 
  

There is no such animal.

PM, any version, can only be installed if you are running Windows or DOS.
It does not run on linux and with linux it is limited to performing its
operations on Ext2 only, it will not work with ReiserFS and I would not trust
it with Ext3.

If you are wanting to resize/change partitions on a system running Linux,
there are several linux apps that can be used, depending upon your FS.
Do a search with google-linux for partitioning programs and that should
give you a starting point.  


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Re: [newbie] Partition Magic for Linux

[Miark]

Their website is at www.powerquest.com, but I don't 
know of any Linux version.

I used their version 7.0 to prepare Ext2 partions
not too long ago, and subsequently it became 
impossible to boot into Linux again. I found out
later that their idea of Ext2 is a little different
than everybody else's. I think it mussed up the
partition table. But either way, it made a mess of
my system.

Use diskdrake, which comes with Mandrake.

Miark

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Subject: [newbie] Partition Magic for Linux


> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know where I can get a full version of Partition Magic for
> Linux?
> 
> thnx
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[newbie] Partition Magic for Linux

[xsturm]

Hello,

Does anyone know where I can get a full version of Partition Magic for
Linux?

thnx

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Re: [newbie] Partition Party

[Tom Brinkman]

On Friday 17 August 2001 05:19 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Okay, I'm about to reinstall my Mandrake system off of my 7.2 cds and
> I'd like to hear people's recommendations on partition sizes and any

> / 250MB
> /swap 200MB
> /usr 10 Gig
> /home 9.55 Gig approximately (whatever's left after the others)

   How to allocate partitions can get to be a holy war of opinions. So 
here's mine.  200mb /swap is fine.  For a single user, put all of / in 
one 10g partition, and use the last 10g as a storage partition, eg 
/stor. You can then keep regular backups of your /home partition and 
other stuff (mp3, jpg, etc.) in /stor.

   Here's my reasoning. No matter how well thought out multiple 
partition schemes are under /, there's a good chance that actual use is 
gonna fill up one, and not the others. Putting everything all in one 
big / partition eliminates this.
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Re: [newbie] Partition Party

[Michael Scottaline]

On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 02:11:15 -0400 (EDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:

> What are /var, /opt and /tmp?  I think I'd like to use all the different
> types
> of partitions to play around with learning more aspects of system
> administration, is this a smart idea or just sort of silly?  Thanks for
> the help.
==
I think it's time for a good linux book, or at least a read through some
of the basic linux documentation available on line.  /var is where logs,
mail, messages usually go.  I can at times grow quite rapidly. thus my
suggestion to give yourself a bit more room on / if you're keeping var as
part of that partition rather than separate. /opt is where third party
software traditionally is put, though recently many distros (led by RH, I
believe) now use /usr/local more often for that.  If you put lots of
software in /opt then you clearly will need either a separate partition
for it or a larger / than 250mb.  check out some documentation ;o)
Mike

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Re: [newbie] Partition Party

[dic98]

What are /var, /opt and /tmp?  I think I'd like to use all the different types
of partitions to play around with learning more aspects of system
administration, is this a smart idea or just sort of silly?  Thanks for the help.

Isaac



Quoting Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:19:24 -0400 (EDT)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:
> 
> 
> > Alrighty, I'll put down what I was thinking of doing and you can tell
> me
> > why 
> > it's dumb, why it's perfect, or perhaps just tinker with it a little
> > bit:
> > 
> > / 250MB
> > /swap 200MB
> > /usr 10 Gig
> > /home 9.55 Gig approximately (whatever's left after the others)
> > 
> > Thanks to anyone who actually takes the time to respond to this,
> > Isaac
> ===
> Looks good to me, though you might want to give more space to / if
> you're
> not going to have a separate /var or /opt or /tmp.  650mb might be
> better
> IMHO.  YMMV.
>   Just my US$0.02,
>   Mike
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Re: [newbie] Partition Party

[Michael Scottaline]

On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:19:24 -0400 (EDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:


> Alrighty, I'll put down what I was thinking of doing and you can tell me
> why 
> it's dumb, why it's perfect, or perhaps just tinker with it a little
> bit:
> 
> / 250MB
> /swap 200MB
> /usr 10 Gig
> /home 9.55 Gig approximately (whatever's left after the others)
> 
> Thanks to anyone who actually takes the time to respond to this,
> Isaac
===
Looks good to me, though you might want to give more space to / if you're
not going to have a separate /var or /opt or /tmp.  650mb might be better
IMHO.  YMMV.
Just my US$0.02,
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[newbie] Partition Party

[dic98]

Okay, I'm about to reinstall my Mandrake system off of my 7.2 cds and I'd like 
to hear people's recommendations on partition sizes and any specific files I 
should make sure I have.  Just FYI I've got the whole box set with all seven 
cds.  There will be two frequent users of this system and four less common 
ones.  I'll be networking the box to another Mandrake system as well as two 
Windows comps, setting up ip masquerading and running dns, using it as an smtp 
server with either exim or sendmail (recommendations, anyone?), digital music 
production and mixing, learning to program in c and java and hopefully lots of 
other languages soon, as well as all your basic household functions like 
gaming, word processing, internet (ppp til October then DSL), cd burning, etc.  
I've also got Windows 98 running on a seperate hard drive, if it matters to 
anyone.  

So, I'll give you my system specs and I'd be really interested in 
recommendations for which partitions to include and what sizes to make them, as 
well as what programs I should have on it that I might otherwise not know to 
include.  Another nice thing would be any known issues about hardware 
optimizations, like why does my NVidia card not handle TuxRacer and why does my 
sound suck even after patching with the VT82cxxxa download.  The last thing for 
people to keep in mind is that I'm going to want to be doing LOTS of tinkering 
with this, downloading tons of upgrades and new programs etc, if that's 
important at all.  Okay, here's the specs, and then anyone who's got as much 
free time as I do can shower me with their infinite wisdom:

Intel Pentium III 866MHz
256 MB RAM
20 Gig 7200 speed Hard Drive
8x4x32 HP 9100 series CD-Rom
NVidia GeForce2 32MB Graphics Card
Abit VH6-II Motherboard with VIA chipset
3Com 3C450 10/100 Ethernet Card (3c59x compatible)
Zoom 56K External Modem

Alrighty, I'll put down what I was thinking of doing and you can tell me why 
it's dumb, why it's perfect, or perhaps just tinker with it a little bit:

/ 250MB
/swap 200MB
/usr 10 Gig
/home 9.55 Gig approximately (whatever's left after the others)

Thanks to anyone who actually takes the time to respond to this,
Isaac



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[newbie] Partition sharing.

[alex]

I'm getting ready to install Mandrake 8.0, the 3 CD set, and may decide
to add other systems later.

Can someone tell me which partitions are safe to share
between different Linux systems?  I understand that /home and swap can
be shared safely but are there any others?  Also, what size should the
partitions be if the systems are for a single user (besides root) who is
just learning Linux, no special application except perhaps installing a
few utility programs.

I have two hard drives and was thinking of putting Mandrake's / on one
drive and the special partitions on the other drive.  Good idea or
not???

Re: [newbie] Partition Size Recommendation

[Paul]

It was Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:18:18 -0500 when Craig Westerman wrote:

>/

200 to 500 Megs. It will contain /boot, /bin, /dev and a few others.

>swap
512. It will hardly be touched with so much Ram so making it twice the ram
size will not be needed.

>/usr
3 to 5 Gb. This is where the programs will be stored. Size of 3Gb should be
plenty, but depends on the amount of programs you are planning to load down
the road.

>/var
5Gb. Contains logfiles and things like that.

>/home
The rest. This is your playground.

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[newbie] Partition Size Recommendation

[Craig Westerman]

Hello 
all,
 
I'm installing Mandrake 8 
on a 30 gb HD with 512 mb RAM.
 
What size should I make the 
following? Why?
 
/
swap
/usr
/var
/home
 
I'll be using mostly for graphics, HTML authoring 
and learning Perl/CGI.
 
Thanks
 
Craig 
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[newbie] / partition

[Eric L. McClure]

I've used diskdrake but cannot expand my / partition.  It is almost full
and I get an error saying just so.

Funny thing though, my 512 sound card does not work properly in win98
but perfectly in 8.0 and beos.

thanks for any help,
eric

[newbie] Partition Tragic

[David Beahm]

I saw this one coming, but anyway...  I took my first stab at changing my
partitions, and it was a complete failure.  Here's the story:

Single 30GB IDE drive w/ LM8.0 installed and running.  I booted from a FreeBSD
floppy to start that install, but I wasn't able to configure the drive the way I
needed to in fdisk/label editor, so I exited, popped out the floppy and booted
like always into LM.  I started xwindows and ran the partition editor from
HardDrake, not making any changes to existing partitions -- I only created new
ones (a FAT 16, a BSD, and a BSD swap).  Now LM gets kernel panic, can't mount
fs, even booting from the LM floppy.  Please help me before I toast another
install and start from scratch again.

TIA,
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Re: [newbie] partition tool in LM8 with win2k

[Romanator]

Romanator wrote:
> 
> Romanator wrote:
> >
> > > Bill Winegarden wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have a fully functioning win2k laptop. I would like to install
> > > LM8 and dual boot. I don't have access to partition magic. Will the
> > > Mandrake partition tool in the graphical setup do a reasonably safe
> > > job of partitioning my 10 gig hard drive? Has anyone done this install
> > > before?
> > >
> > > Thanks all,
> > > Bill W.

Hello Bill,
 
Personally, I would Partition Magic 6 for the entire computer. During
your installation of Linux, use the tool supplied by Mandrake.
I would recommend creating separate little partitions for the following:
/boot 
/root 
/usr 
/swap 
/home
In addition, you will find Partition Magic 6 reasonably safe and easy to
use. They also inlcude a wizard utility for patitioning.
It is compatible with win2K & winme and windows 95 and 98/98se.
 
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Re: [newbie] partition tool in LM8 with win2k

[Romanator]

Romanator wrote:
> 
> > Bill Winegarden wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I have a fully functioning win2k laptop. I would like to install
> > LM8 and dual boot. I don't have access to partition magic. Will the
> > Mandrake partition tool in the graphical setup do a reasonably safe
> > job of partitioning my 10 gig hard drive? Has anyone done this install
> > before?
> >
> > Thanks all,
> > Bill W.
> 
Hello Bill,
 
Personally, I would make a back up copy of your data because it will be
destroy all data on the partition you are planning to install Linux on.
Dueing the installation, I use the partitioning tool to resize my
smaller partitions i.e. /boot /root /usr /swap and /home
However, for all partitions, I would use Partition Magic 6. It is
reasonably safe and  yes, it is compatible with win2K & winme.
 
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Re: [newbie] partition tool in LM8 with win2k

[Romanator]

> Bill Winegarden wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have a fully functioning win2k laptop. I would like to install
> LM8 and dual boot. I don't have access to partition magic. Will the
> Mandrake partition tool in the graphical setup do a reasonably safe
> job of partitioning my 10 gig hard drive? Has anyone done this install
> before?
> 
> Thanks all,
> Bill W.

Bill, 

Personally, I would make a back up and use to resize my Linux and
partitions only. For all partitions, I would use Partition Magic 6. And
yes, it is compatible with win2K and winme.  


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[newbie] partition tool in LM8 with win2k

[Bill Winegarden]

Hi,
    I have a fully functioning win2k 
laptop. I would like to install LM8 and dual boot. I don't have access to 
partition magic. Will the Mandrake partition tool in the graphical setup do a 
reasonably safe job of partitioning my 10 gig hard drive? Has anyone done this 
install before?
 
Thanks all,
Bill W.

Re: [newbie] partition problem

[linuxmaxx]

Try using partition magic
The best program for controling your partitions. You can do every kind of 
event about partitions with that program.
I have the trial version (!)  of it and can send you from ICQ
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On Tuesday 12 June 2001 02:45 am, Tyrell wrote:
> Hello.
>
> When you say a second box you want to say a Second partition, true?
>
> I think you have too defragmented your partition.
>
> To resize a partition, first you must defrag it, in order to have all data
> at the beginning. And then resize it safely.
> Yes, You can use Partition Magic. Be carefull and perhaps make a backup
> before resize.
>
> The DOS file system use a FAT (File Allocation Table) to indicate the
> secuence of clusters (a cluster is a group of sectors) of your partition
> correspond to each  archive. The number of cluster of your partition is
> 2^32 (FAT32), each file of size greater tha zero occupied one cluster at
> least, for example a file of 55 bytes is on a cluster of for example 16 Kb,
> wasting more than 15 Kb of space. LBA (Logical Block Adress) is an standard
> invented to manage hard disk greater than 512 Mb, that was the limited for
> the before standard.
>
> Bye.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Carlos Alberto Berardi González <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:38 PM
> Subject: [newbie] partition problem
>
>
> Hi all
> I'm trying to install LM8.0 on a second box, but when diskdrake asks about
> what to do, it says it can't resize my windows98 partition, which appears
> to be fat32-lba mapped (what is that?)
> is it a software problem, the disk is to fragmented, or it has to do with
> the
> BIOS?
>
> can i use  partition magic to try it?
>
> Thanks
>
> 
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RE: [newbie] partition problem

[Tyrell]

Hello.

When you say a second box you want to say a Second partition, true?

I think you have too defragmented your partition.

To resize a partition, first you must defrag it, in order to have all data
at the beginning. And then resize it safely.
Yes, You can use Partition Magic. Be carefull and perhaps make a backup
before resize.

The DOS file system use a FAT (File Allocation Table) to indicate the
secuence of clusters (a cluster is a group of sectors) of your partition
correspond to each  archive. The number of cluster of your partition is 2^32
(FAT32), each file of size greater tha zero occupied one cluster at least,
for example a file of 55 bytes is on a cluster of for example 16 Kb, wasting
more than 15 Kb of space. LBA (Logical Block Adress) is an standard invented
to manage hard disk greater than 512 Mb, that was the limited for the before
standard.

Bye.

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To: newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [newbie] partition problem


Hi all
I'm trying to install LM8.0 on a second box, but when diskdrake asks about
what to do, it says it can't resize my windows98 partition, which appears to
be fat32-lba mapped (what is that?)
is it a software problem, the disk is to fragmented, or it has to do with
the
BIOS?

can i use  partition magic to try it?

Thanks


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[newbie] partition problem

[González]

Hi all
I'm trying to install LM8.0 on a second box, but when diskdrake asks about
what to do, it says it can't resize my windows98 partition, which appears to
be fat32-lba mapped (what is that?)
is it a software problem, the disk is to fragmented, or it has to do with the
BIOS?

can i use  partition magic to try it?

Thanks


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Re: [newbie] Partition problem after install

[Civileme]

On Friday 01 June 2001 03:35, Ivor Blockley wrote:
> Hi
>
> I just installed mandrake 7.2 and now dos can't see my fat32 extended
> partitions (although linux still sees them). Prior to the mandrake install
> my harddrive was configured into 5 partitions - a primary dos fat32
> parition ("c:") which I had recently formatted (in fact I was so slack I
> didn't make it bootable even), and 4 logical fat32 paritions "d" to "g".
> Parititons "e" through to "g" contained valuable data, but paritition "d"
> was emtpy. So when I installed linux I used diskdrake to "delete" partition
> "d" and replace it with the required linux paritions. Mandrake works fine
> but when I boot up, say using a win98 boot disk, dos can see "c:", but no
> other hard drive paritions.
>
> Anyone know what happened and how to fix it? I can still obviously access
> all my data through linux, but it would be nice to have dos back to normal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ivor
>

Yes, the first extended partition has a type code that says 0x83 which is a 
stop sign to windows.  It quits looking.

Partitiona are organiized as follows:

On the first sector of the drive bytes

446-461 First primary partition info or extended paqrtition pointer if no 
primaries

462-477 2nd primary or extended pointer

478-493 3rd primary or extended pointer

494-509 4th primary or extended pointer

510-511 Signature bytes  (end of sector)

Now whichever one points to an extended partition simply points to the first 
sector of an extended partition... In that first sector in the same area are 
two data fields--one gives size ans starting info about the partition and the 
other points to the NEXT extended partition first sector where the pattern of 
info is repeated, until all extensions are described.

Windows sees the linux type code and looks no further.

To stop this, and to recover your windows data, figure some good place to put 
it.  Then use fdisk (linux) to toggle the type of the former D: drive to 
FAT32.

You should then be able to see the other drives and recover the data from 
them.

Then stomp the whole extended partition scheme and leave the rest of the disk 
UNPARTITIONED.

Then reinstall linux, making any windows partitions FIRST.  Sorry, but 
windows simply does not have the intelligence to look beyond a linux 
partition.

Alternatively, you can use GNU/linux to copy the data from the windows 
partitions to the first windows partitions, but you can never make those 
later partitions accessible to windows, without surgery on the partition 
table and reinstalling Mandrake's distribution of GNU/linux.

Civileme

Re: [newbie] Partition problem after install

[Alan Shoemaker]

Ivor Blockley wrote:
> Hi
>
> I just installed mandrake 7.2 and now dos can't see my
> fat32 extended partitions (although linux still sees them).
> Prior to the mandrake install my harddrive was configured
> into 5 partitions - a primary dos fat32 parition ("c:")
> which I had recently formatted (in fact I was so slack I
> didn't make it bootable even), and 4 logical fat32
> paritions "d" to "g". Parititons "e" through to "g"
> contained valuable data, but paritition "d" was emtpy. So
> when I installed linux I used diskdrake to "delete"
> partition "d" and replace it with the required linux
> paritions. Mandrake works fine but when I boot up, say
> using a win98 boot disk, dos can see "c:", but no other
> hard drive paritions.
>
> Anyone know what happened and how to fix it? I can still
> obviously access all my data through linux, but it would be
> nice to have dos back to normal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ivor

Ivorif I remember correctly, what's happened here is that 
DrakX has changed your hda2 partition id from type f to type 
85.  Check it out with fdisk and change it back if I'm 
correct.
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[newbie] Partition problem after install

[Ivor Blockley]

Hi

I just installed mandrake 7.2 and now dos can't see my fat32 extended
partitions (although linux still sees them). Prior to the mandrake install
my harddrive was configured into 5 partitions - a primary dos fat32 parition
("c:") which I had recently formatted (in fact I was so slack I didn't make
it bootable even), and 4 logical fat32 paritions "d" to "g". Parititons "e"
through to "g" contained valuable data, but paritition "d" was emtpy. So
when I installed linux I used diskdrake to "delete" partition "d" and
replace it with the required linux paritions. Mandrake works fine but when I
boot up, say using a win98 boot disk, dos can see "c:", but no other hard
drive paritions.

Anyone know what happened and how to fix it? I can still obviously access
all my data through linux, but it would be nice to have dos back to normal.

Thanks,

Ivor





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[newbie] partition

[GOD]

how big of a partition will linux madrake need and what kind of partition???
Thnx
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Re: [newbie] partition

[ZeynalBandari]

it all depends on the applications you want to install and how many users will be 
using the system.  
i'm the only user n partitions are about 350MB for root , 150MB (3 x ram) for swap , 
1500-200 MB for /usr and leave 1000 MB for /home. 
it all been working more or less till now. 
good luck 
   
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Re: [newbie] Partition Corrupted.

[David E . Fox]

On Tuesday 27 March 2001 08:21, you wrote:
> I have 64 MB SWAP in my Linux Mandarake 7.2 box, i want to make it 125MB,
> can i do it without re installation ? Can i do it without data loss ? i

If you have extra space somewhere else, you don't even have to resize
your partitions if you add secondary swap space as a swap file. Swap files 
are slower than regular swap partitions, but since part of your swap already 
is a partition, you might not notice that much of an impact.

As root do something like:

# dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1M size=64
# mkswap /swapfile
# swapon /swapfile

This sets up, formats, and attaches a 64 meg area called swapfile as 
additional swap space.

If you want to make it available on boot, then you'll also need to add it to 
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