Re: [newbie] rpm and binary only installations - do they mix?

2002-03-12 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:28:31 +1300
Walter Logeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to
ponder:

> Hi,
> 
> I have just upgraded Xfree86 in Mdk 8.1 to 4.2.0.  I used the 
> binaries on the XFree site.  It was recommended i do this on the 
> gatos site where I wanted to grab a driver for my ATI card.
> 
> It occurs to me that the rpm database does not understand this 
> upgrade and is operating as if i have XFree86 4.1.0
> 
> So... what is the idea here - use rpms only?  Is there a way of 
> telling rpm what I have installed?
> 
> I have binary for my ATI Radeon card I'd like to install - I 
> can't find an rpm for it.  Should I do it or risk more of these 
> incompatibilities with my rpm database?  Should i be using 
> rpmfind?  I am just downloading it now.
> 
> I am interested in learning how to manage my machine.  It seems 
> this is a  messy process.  I'd love to hear how others manage 
> their Mandrake files.  
> 
> 
> 
> Walter
> Some clips from the console follow.
> 
> 

Walter,

What I would do at this point would be to "make" an RPM from the binary that
you've got for yourself. Of course you can always then post that little gem
on all the mirrors for others to enjoy as well. When you've got the package
made you can then install it and your RPM database will contain the
necessary information.

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[newbie] rpm and binary only installations - do they mix?

2002-03-11 Thread Walter Logeman

Hi,

I have just upgraded Xfree86 in Mdk 8.1 to 4.2.0.  I used the 
binaries on the XFree site.  It was recommended i do this on the 
gatos site where I wanted to grab a driver for my ATI card.

It occurs to me that the rpm database does not understand this 
upgrade and is operating as if i have XFree86 4.1.0

So... what is the idea here - use rpms only?  Is there a way of 
telling rpm what I have installed?

I have binary for my ATI Radeon card I'd like to install - I 
can't find an rpm for it.  Should I do it or risk more of these 
incompatibilities with my rpm database?  Should i be using 
rpmfind?  I am just downloading it now.

I am interested in learning how to manage my machine.  It seems 
this is a  messy process.  I'd love to hear how others manage 
their Mandrake files.  



Walter
Some clips from the console follow.



~~~

1001 walter@psybernet:~ (12:14:53)
$ kpackage
kpackage: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid 
parameter attributes) 8   Major opcode:  42



~~

1004 walter@psybernet:~ (07:52:32)
$ rpm -qv XFree86
XFree86-4.1.0-17mdk
1005 walter@psybernet:~ (07:52:42)
$ X -version

XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 January 2002
  If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
  newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
  reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)

Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present

~~~

>From the man page:

REBUILD DATABASE OPTIONS
   The general  form  of  an  rpm  rebuild
   database command is

   rpm {--initdb|--rebuilddb} [-v]
   [--dbpath DIRECTORY] [--root DIRECTORY]

   Use  --initdb to create a new database,
   use --rebuilddb to rebuild the database
   indices   from  the  installed  package
   headers.

~

I guess this means it just rebuilds its data from rpm related 
installations.

-- 
Walter Logeman
Psychotherapist
http://www.psybernet.co.nz



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