Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-04 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy
On Friday 04 Mar 2005 20:54, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Thursday 03 March 2005 11:36 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > you all do know that as root "urpmi rute" will install rute,, adn just
> > > typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> >
> > Actually typing rute in cli didn't start rute for me.  Though I haven't
> > urpmi'ed it yet.
>
> Wl that *could* be the reason ;-)


Didn't actually say that though - did he/she?  As a newbie how would one know?  
Some things are installed by default.

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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-03 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 03 March 2005 11:36 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> > >
> >
> > you all do know that as root "urpmi rute" will install rute,, adn just
> > typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute
> >
> >
> > ---
>
> Actually typing rute in cli didn't start rute for me.  Though I haven't
> urpmi'ed it yet.
Wl that *could* be the reason ;-)


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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-03 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy

> >
>
> you all do know that as root "urpmi rute" will install rute,, adn just
> typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute
>
>
> ---
Actually typing rute in cli didn't start rute for me.  Though I haven't 
urpmi'ed it yet.


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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-03 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy

>
> PS I assume you heve the kdegraphics-kghostview and/or acroread rpms
> installed. KGhostview is a program (and embeddable KPart) to display *.PDF
> and *.PS files.


Yes was pretty amazed when first installed mandrake 10.1 and cruising the 
menus - to see what was there.

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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-01 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy
On Wednesday 02 Mar 2005 18:21, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> et wrote:
> > Travis Crook wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 06:50 -0500, Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
>  SnapafunFrank wrote:
> > Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can
> > handle this site but have I got it easy for you
> >
> > Go to this site : http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz [ note the
> > *.gz bit - Mozilla can handle that  - let me know if Firefox can
> > please ] ...
> >
> > At the very top left of this page is this link..
> > http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2
> >
> > Download that - unzip it - and you have a pdf file to print to
> > hard copy. Warning, I have done this myself with rute and that is
> > a book sized printout.
> >
> > #
> >###
> >
> >
> > UPDATE:
> >
> > Tried the above link in konqueror and not only did it open the
> > site page but when I did a simple left click on the pdf link,
> > konqueror offered to open it for me there and then .. ( it's
> > downloading as I write this.) So from pdf to printer is a snap -
> > Er... I have xpdf and Acrobat5 installed. The later gives me more
> > printing layout options, though if I were to dig further there
> > would likely be something in kprinter that would do enough to
> > satisfy my requirements.
> >
> > Sort of supports my earlier posting in this thread ... I must use
> > what is available first, then experiment with the latest and
> > greatest.
> >>>
> >>> The link works in Firefox and Epiphany as well.  :)
> >>
> >> Opera too!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> 
> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to
> >> http://www.mandrakestore.com
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> >> 
> >
> > you all do know that as root "urpmi rute" will install rute,, adn just
> > typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute
> >
> >
> > ---
> > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses]
>
> Yeah, but Rosemary was talking of printing it, possibly from within
> windows, so the pdf file seemed to be the way to go.


Yes - I have printed a chapter - thanks.  Before I got this email actually.  I 
will do as you suggest re saving as above.  While I am not going to print the 
whole book - it seemed to me some sections would be helpful to me to have in 
hard copy.  I don't want to kill too many trees!  

And ... my printer works in mandrake, and even webpages better now.

I appreciate the time various people have taken to help me with this.  Many, 
many thanks
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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-01 Thread SnapafunFrank
et wrote:
Travis Crook wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 06:50 -0500, Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
 

On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
  

SnapafunFrank wrote:


Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can 
handle this site but have I got it easy for you

Go to this site : http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz [ note the 
*.gz bit - Mozilla can handle that  - let me know if Firefox can 
please ] ...

At the very top left of this page is this link.. 
http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2

Download that - unzip it - and you have a pdf file to print to 
hard copy. Warning, I have done this myself with rute and that is 
a book sized printout.

 

UPDATE:
Tried the above link in konqueror and not only did it open the 
site page but when I did a simple left click on the pdf link, 
konqueror offered to open it for me there and then .. ( it's 
downloading as I write this.) So from pdf to printer is a snap - 
Er... I have xpdf and Acrobat5 installed. The later gives me more 
printing layout options, though if I were to dig further there 
would likely be something in kprinter that would do enough to 
satisfy my requirements.

Sort of supports my earlier posting in this thread ... I must use 
what is available first, then experiment with the latest and 
greatest.
  

The link works in Firefox and Epiphany as well.  :)
  

Opera too!
 



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you all do know that as root "urpmi rute" will install rute,, adn just 
typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute

---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses]

Yeah, but Rosemary was talking of printing it, possibly from within 
windows, so the pdf file seemed to be the way to go.

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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-01 Thread et
Travis Crook wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 06:50 -0500, Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
 

On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
   

SnapafunFrank wrote:
 

Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can handle 
this site but have I got it easy for you

Go to this site : http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz [ note the 
*.gz bit - Mozilla can handle that  - let me know if Firefox can 
please ] ...

At the very top left of this page is this link.. 
http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2

Download that - unzip it - and you have a pdf file to print to hard 
copy. Warning, I have done this myself with rute and that is a book 
sized printout.

 

UPDATE:
Tried the above link in konqueror and not only did it open the site 
page but when I did a simple left click on the pdf link, konqueror 
offered to open it for me there and then .. ( it's downloading as I 
write this.) So from pdf to printer is a snap - Er... I have xpdf and 
Acrobat5 installed. The later gives me more printing layout options, 
though if I were to dig further there would likely be something in 
kprinter that would do enough to satisfy my requirements.

Sort of supports my earlier posting in this thread ... I must use what 
is available first, then experiment with the latest and greatest.
   

The link works in Firefox and Epiphany as well.  :)
   

Opera too!
 



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you all do know that as root "urpmi rute" will install rute,, adn just 
typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute

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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-01 Thread Travis Crook
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 06:50 -0500, Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> > SnapafunFrank wrote:
> 
> > > Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can handle 
> > > this site but have I got it easy for you
> > >
> > > Go to this site : http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz [ note the 
> > > *.gz bit - Mozilla can handle that  - let me know if Firefox can 
> > > please ] ...
> > >
> > > At the very top left of this page is this link.. 
> > > http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2
> > >
> > > Download that - unzip it - and you have a pdf file to print to hard 
> > > copy. Warning, I have done this myself with rute and that is a book 
> > > sized printout.
> > >
> > > 
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > > UPDATE:
> > >
> > > Tried the above link in konqueror and not only did it open the site 
> > > page but when I did a simple left click on the pdf link, konqueror 
> > > offered to open it for me there and then .. ( it's downloading as I 
> > > write this.) So from pdf to printer is a snap - Er... I have xpdf and 
> > > Acrobat5 installed. The later gives me more printing layout options, 
> > > though if I were to dig further there would likely be something in 
> > > kprinter that would do enough to satisfy my requirements.
> > >
> > > Sort of supports my earlier posting in this thread ... I must use what 
> > > is available first, then experiment with the latest and greatest.
> 
>  The link works in Firefox and Epiphany as well.  :)

Opera too!


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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-01 Thread Pablo Ortuzar
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 13:40, Pablo Ortuzar wrote:


> Rosemary,
>
> I assume you're using KDE. With konqueror, go here
>
> http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2
>
> Left click on "download pdf" (upper left)
> A popup window will appear. Left click on "Save As".
> In your home folder, you will have a "rute.pdf.bz2" file. Right click on
> it, then left click on "Ark". Choose "Edit", then "Select all", then
> "Action", then "Extract". A file called "rute.pdf" is then installed in
> /opt. Go there and left click on it. You can then read it offline, or print
> it (left click "Location", then "Print").

PS I assume you heve the kdegraphics-kghostview and/or acroread rpms 
installed. KGhostview is a program (and embeddable KPart) to display *.PDF 
and *.PS files.

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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-01 Thread Pablo Ortuzar
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 11:38, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
(snip)
>
> Go to this site : http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz [ note the *.gz
> bit - Mozilla can handle that  - let me know if Firefox can please ] ...
>
> At the very top left of this page is this link..
> http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2
>
> Download that - unzip it - and you have a pdf file 
>
> ###
>#
>
> UPDATE:
>
> Tried the above link in konqueror and not only did it open the site page
> but when I did a simple left click on the pdf link, konqueror offered to
> open it for me there and then .. ( it's downloading as I write this.) So
> from pdf to printer is a snap - Er... I have xpdf and Acrobat5

Rosemary,

I assume you're using KDE. With konqueror, go here

http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2

Left click on "download pdf" (upper left)
A popup window will appear. Left click on "Save As".
In your home folder, you will have a "rute.pdf.bz2" file. Right click on it, 
then left click on "Ark". Choose "Edit", then "Select all", then "Action", 
then "Extract". A file called "rute.pdf" is then installed in /opt. Go there 
and left click on it. You can then read it offline, or print it (left click 
"Location", then "Print").

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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-01 Thread Kenneth Rhodes
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> SnapafunFrank wrote:

> > Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can handle 
> > this site but have I got it easy for you
> >
> > Go to this site : http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz [ note the 
> > *.gz bit - Mozilla can handle that  - let me know if Firefox can 
> > please ] ...
> >
> > At the very top left of this page is this link.. 
> > http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2
> >
> > Download that - unzip it - and you have a pdf file to print to hard 
> > copy. Warning, I have done this myself with rute and that is a book 
> > sized printout.
> >
> > 
> >  
> >
> >
> > UPDATE:
> >
> > Tried the above link in konqueror and not only did it open the site 
> > page but when I did a simple left click on the pdf link, konqueror 
> > offered to open it for me there and then .. ( it's downloading as I 
> > write this.) So from pdf to printer is a snap - Er... I have xpdf and 
> > Acrobat5 installed. The later gives me more printing layout options, 
> > though if I were to dig further there would likely be something in 
> > kprinter that would do enough to satisfy my requirements.
> >
> > Sort of supports my earlier posting in this thread ... I must use what 
> > is available first, then experiment with the latest and greatest.

 The link works in Firefox and Epiphany as well.  :)

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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-01 Thread SnapafunFrank
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Hello listers,
Thanks to all who replied to my post.  I'm sorry - I was  pretty  
unreasonable on reflection.  I have been frustrated at one or two 
things, and also on night duty, which does nothing for my tolerance!  
I do aplogise for sounding off.

Just for interest I had no problems going from win 98 to winXP but 
mainly because I also went from a ten year old computer with 200mhz 
processor and 64 mb RAM, to 2Gig and  256!  But I certainly found 
computing a weird world when I first started. 
The reality is, I have only booted to windows once in the last week 
and that was to print a letter head with a scanned logo for some work 
I do.  I am learning my way around the various programmes I use, and 
it isn't actually going to hurt me to use Kmail rather than 
thunderbird.  However I do want to get the webpage printing sorted 
because need the Rute tutorial in hard copy to refer to.  I'll look 
at the printing suggestion you made Anne.
 

Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can handle 
this site but have I got it easy for you

Go to this site : http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz [ note the 
*.gz bit - Mozilla can handle that  - let me know if Firefox can 
please ] ...

At the very top left of this page is this link.. 
http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2

Download that - unzip it - and you have a pdf file to print to hard 
copy. Warning, I have done this myself with rute and that is a book 
sized printout.

 

UPDATE:
Tried the above link in konqueror and not only did it open the site 
page but when I did a simple left click on the pdf link, konqueror 
offered to open it for me there and then .. ( it's downloading as I 
write this.) So from pdf to printer is a snap - Er... I have xpdf and 
Acrobat5 installed. The later gives me more printing layout options, 
though if I were to dig further there would likely be something in 
kprinter that would do enough to satisfy my requirements.

Sort of supports my earlier posting in this thread ... I must use what 
is available first, then experiment with the latest and greatest.

Hope you get Rute sorted.
Enjoy.
I think the main problem is that I want to run, before I can walk 
properly, in linux!  A bit of patience is in order ... 
A big bonus is that I don't ever lose my internet conection in 
linux.  I don't know whether that is the hardware modem or the OS, 
but it's a big improvement on before.

Anyway  thanks all.  I'm not giving up.
Rosemary
 


Another update ; It's 660 pages long whew.
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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-01 Thread SnapafunFrank
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Hello listers,
Thanks to all who replied to my post.  I'm sorry - I was  pretty  unreasonable 
on reflection.  I have been frustrated at one or two things, and also on 
night duty, which does nothing for my tolerance!  I do aplogise for sounding 
off.

Just for interest I had no problems going from win 98 to winXP but mainly 
because I also went from a ten year old computer with 200mhz processor and 64 
mb RAM, to 2Gig and  256!  But I certainly found computing a weird world when 
I first started.  

The reality is, I have only booted to windows once in the last week and that 
was to print a letter head with a scanned logo for some work I do.  I am 
learning my way around the various programmes I use, and it isn't actually 
going to hurt me to use Kmail rather than thunderbird.  However I do want to 
get the webpage printing sorted because need the Rute tutorial in hard copy 
to refer to.  I'll look at the printing suggestion you made Anne.
 

Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can handle 
this site but have I got it easy for you

Go to this site : http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz [ note the *.gz 
bit - Mozilla can handle that  - let me know if Firefox can please ] ...

At the very top left of this page is this link.. 
http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2

Download that - unzip it - and you have a pdf file to print to hard 
copy. Warning, I have done this myself with rute and that is a book 
sized printout.


UPDATE:
Tried the above link in konqueror and not only did it open the site page 
but when I did a simple left click on the pdf link, konqueror offered to 
open it for me there and then .. ( it's downloading as I write this.) So 
from pdf to printer is a snap - Er... I have xpdf and Acrobat5 
installed. The later gives me more printing layout options, though if I 
were to dig further there would likely be something in kprinter that 
would do enough to satisfy my requirements.

Sort of supports my earlier posting in this thread ... I must use what 
is available first, then experiment with the latest and greatest.

Hope you get Rute sorted.
Enjoy.
I think the main problem is that I want to run, before I can walk properly, in 
linux!  A bit of patience is in order ...  

A big bonus is that I don't ever lose my internet conection in linux.  I don't 
know whether that is the hardware modem or the OS, but it's a big improvement 
on before.

Anyway  thanks all.  I'm not giving up.
Rosemary
 


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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-01 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy

>
> You and me both.  I think for windows power users to make the change is
> actually not very easy.  The frustration level is so high when you knew
> your way around quite complex things and you are having to learn fairly
> basic ones.
>
> > Anyway  thanks all.  I'm not giving up.
>
> Good.  Enjoy!
>
> Anne


I don't think I can make the claim to being a power user, but I could do the 
things I wanted to, or manage to teach myself, or find out by fiddling about.  
I just need to give myself time and practice in the command line until it 
becomes more familiar.

Thanks
Rosemary

Most things I do don't need command line - I just would like to know!


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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-01 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Tuesday 01 Mar 2005 06:19, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> Hello listers,
>
> Thanks to all who replied to my post.  I'm sorry - I was  pretty 
> unreasonable on reflection.  I have been frustrated at one or two things,
> and also on night duty, which does nothing for my tolerance!  I do aplogise
> for sounding off.
>
A sound-off relieves things, often   No apology needed.
>
> I think the main problem is that I want to run, before I can walk properly,
> in linux!  A bit of patience is in order ...
>
You and me both.  I think for windows power users to make the change is 
actually not very easy.  The frustration level is so high when you knew your 
way around quite complex things and you are having to learn fairly basic 
ones.

> Anyway  thanks all.  I'm not giving up.
>
Good.  Enjoy!

Anne
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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-02-28 Thread riccardo
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 06:19 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> to use Kmail rather than ~
__

 Kmail . . . one of the Best  :)

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[newbie] various issues - apology

2005-02-28 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy
Hello listers,

Thanks to all who replied to my post.  I'm sorry - I was  pretty  unreasonable 
on reflection.  I have been frustrated at one or two things, and also on 
night duty, which does nothing for my tolerance!  I do aplogise for sounding 
off.

Just for interest I had no problems going from win 98 to winXP but mainly 
because I also went from a ten year old computer with 200mhz processor and 64 
mb RAM, to 2Gig and  256!  But I certainly found computing a weird world when 
I first started.  

The reality is, I have only booted to windows once in the last week and that 
was to print a letter head with a scanned logo for some work I do.  I am 
learning my way around the various programmes I use, and it isn't actually 
going to hurt me to use Kmail rather than thunderbird.  However I do want to 
get the webpage printing sorted because need the Rute tutorial in hard copy 
to refer to.  I'll look at the printing suggestion you made Anne.

I think the main problem is that I want to run, before I can walk properly, in 
linux!  A bit of patience is in order ...  

A big bonus is that I don't ever lose my internet conection in linux.  I don't 
know whether that is the hardware modem or the OS, but it's a big improvement 
on before.

Anyway  thanks all.  I'm not giving up.

Rosemary


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