Re: [newbie] watch what you say on this list

[Denis HAVLIK]

:~>I received an email just now saying my email was " inappropriate subject 
:~>matter ". It was logged by you. I don't understand why, though. I was 

You did not get this from mandrakesoft. There is only ONE word I am
filtering: "unsubscribe".

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Denis
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Re: [newbie] watch what you say on this list

[Lance Borden]

Apparently so!  :)
LB

Vic wrote:
> 
> Can we say "booger", "poop", "diarrhea", or "fart"?
> 
> Vic
> 
> On Tue, 09 May 2000, Michael R. Batchelor wrote:
> > This "filtering" isn't done by Mandrake, but by someone's site who is
> > subscribed to the list. I've gotten a couple back from the same site
> > myself, related to some oddball word they considered "forbidden". Just
> > blow them off as paranoid. They're free to run their site any way they
> > feel.
> >
> > I think the Mandrake site archives all the maillist messages. But not
> > all sites archive all their mail. We sure don't. The warning message
> > only comes back to the person who originally sent the message, not to
> > the list, so they aren't really singling out anyone other than the poor
> > sucker on the list who isn't getting these filter messages.
> >
> > Michael
> >

Re: [newbie] watch what you say on this list

[Michael Holt]

LOL!!  Thanks, I needed that! 

Vic wrote:
> 
> Can we say "booger", "poop", "diarrhea", or "fart"?
> 
> Vic
> 
> On Tue, 09 May 2000, Michael R. Batchelor wrote:
> > This "filtering" isn't done by Mandrake, but by someone's site who is
> > subscribed to the list. I've gotten a couple back from the same site
> > myself, related to some oddball word they considered "forbidden". Just
> > blow them off as paranoid. They're free to run their site any way they
> > feel.
> >
> > I think the Mandrake site archives all the maillist messages. But not
> > all sites archive all their mail. We sure don't. The warning message
> > only comes back to the person who originally sent the message, not to
> > the list, so they aren't really singling out anyone other than the poor
> > sucker on the list who isn't getting these filter messages.
> >
> > Michael
> >

-- 
==
Michael Holt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kirkland, WA
==
The Penguins are coming!!!
==

Re: [newbie] watch what you say on this list

[Vic]

Can we say "booger", "poop", "diarrhea", or "fart"?


Vic

On Tue, 09 May 2000, Michael R. Batchelor wrote:
> This "filtering" isn't done by Mandrake, but by someone's site who is
> subscribed to the list. I've gotten a couple back from the same site
> myself, related to some oddball word they considered "forbidden". Just
> blow them off as paranoid. They're free to run their site any way they
> feel.
> 
> I think the Mandrake site archives all the maillist messages. But not
> all sites archive all their mail. We sure don't. The warning message
> only comes back to the person who originally sent the message, not to
> the list, so they aren't really singling out anyone other than the poor
> sucker on the list who isn't getting these filter messages.
> 
> Michael
> 

Re: [newbie] watch what you say on this list

[Joseph S. Gardner]

WolfRyder wrote:

> Following is a copy of an email I am sending to the "filtering" site that
> linux-mandrake uses. This is in reference to the email thread about
> "Parental Control".
>
> I received an email just now saying my email was " inappropriate subject
> matter ". It was logged by you. I don't understand why, though. I was
> answering an email on a listserv of which I am a member and we were
> discussing filtering software for Linux as opposed to parental monitoring.
>
> I don't understand why I was singled out for this type of monitoring when
> the other people the list used the same word as I, but were not censured
> (as far as I know).
>
> You can bet I won't be discussing the merits of software filtering on that
> list again. If they use this service to strike fear in the hearts of it's
> participants when discussing possible writing of filtering options, it's
> not a site I wish to respond to at all.
>
> I am therefore unsubscribing right now.
> Carol
>
>  >MIMEsweeper ChineseWall
>  >Server:   CN=NS005/OU=DSRV/O=Texas Utilities
> ->--
> -
>  >Mail-Info
>
>  >From:   WolfRyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> @ TU
>  >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >Date:   05/08/2000 07:42:46 AM
>  >Subject:Re: [newbie] Parental Control
>  >--
> --
>  >'ChineseWall Job' reports:
>
>  >TXU automatically screens all e-mail for inappropriate subject matter (i.e.
>  >material that is discriminatory, hateful, vulgar, pornographic,
>  >sexually-explicit, or obscene). This e-mail contains information that is
>  >considered inappropriate for the business environment and has been logged and
>  >will be reviewed to determine final disposition. If you have any questions,
>  >please direct them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  ' porn ' found!
>
>  >Mail has been archived!

Carol,

A quick search reveals that ChineseWall is an email filtering program and that TXU
is the Texas Utilities Co.

The most likely explanation is that someone at TXU is on the linux-Mandrake mail
list and their company is filtering / scanning their incoming email and then
sending the originator a warning / notice.

I know, sounds childish but that's business.  They didn't single you out, they are
just being paranoid.

Note to whomever is out there from TXU,  chew on this.


XXX tra care has been taken not to offend.  This author fully supports anti -
pornography efforts and has on occasion pulled the plug from the offensive unit.
Perhaps you might consider re-evaluating some of your catch phrases or at least
review your "archive" log and send apologies to those such as Carol who were truly
offended.


--
Joseph S. Gardner
Handi Krafts

www.handi-krafts.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux is like a wigwam...
No windows, no gates.
Apache inside

Registered linux user #1696600
ICQ #63389227

RE: [newbie] watch what you say on this list

[Oliver Stieber]

why not scan a picture and use and converty to ansi text the picture dosn't
have to contain anything it shouldn't but it would make the point.

> -Original Message-
> From: flupke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 09 May 2000 10:43
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] watch what you say on this list
> 
> 
> Well, I also had the same problem while answering to someone 
> stating that
> a program told him that "his kernel was an asshole" or something like
> that.
> I really don't apprciate this kind of mail sniffing. I find that
> outrageous.
> I sent them a mail, asking for explaination, who they were to 
> afford to
> watch my mail, saying that couldn't let a robot judge the 
> content of an
> email, etc...
> Of course, I didn't receive any answer. I really think we should do
> something against those people. I don't know what, but we have to find
> something. Thinking about those guyz makes me sick!
> Maybe adding a word like "porn", or "asshole" or something 
> like that in
> *EVERY* mail sent to the list would annoy them enough. Or if everyone
> could send them a mail to ask for explaination would convice 
> these guyz to
> leave us alone and let the ineternet be a place of freedom.
> Maybe others will have better suggestions.
> 
> I usually don't smile about other's problems, but I'm kind of 
> glad that
> this didn't happen only to me.
> 
> Flupke
> 
> On Mon, 8 May 2000, WolfRyder wrote:
> 
> > Following is a copy of an email I am sending to the 
> "filtering" site that 
> > linux-mandrake uses. This is in reference to the email thread about 
> > "Parental Control".
> > 
> > I received an email just now saying my email was " 
> inappropriate subject 
> > matter ". It was logged by you. I don't understand why, 
> though. I was 
> > answering an email on a listserv of which I am a member and we were 
> > discussing filtering software for Linux as opposed to 
> parental monitoring.
> > 
> > I don't understand why I was singled out for this type of 
> monitoring when 
> > the other people the list used the same word as I, but were 
> not censured 
> > (as far as I know).
> > 
> > You can bet I won't be discussing the merits of software 
> filtering on that 
> > list again. If they use this service to strike fear in the 
> hearts of it's 
> > participants when discussing possible writing of filtering 
> options, it's 
> > not a site I wish to respond to at all.
> > 
> > I am therefore unsubscribing right now.
> > Carol
> > 
> > 
> >  >MIMEsweeper ChineseWall
> >  >Server:   CN=NS005/OU=DSRV/O=Texas Utilities
> > 
> ->
> -- 
> > -
> >  >Mail-Info
> > 
> >  >From:   WolfRyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> @ TU
> >  >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  >Date:   05/08/2000 07:42:46 AM
> >  >Subject:Re: [newbie] Parental Control
> >  
> >-
> - 
> > --
> >  >'ChineseWall Job' reports:
> > 
> >  >TXU automatically screens all e-mail for inappropriate 
> subject matter (i.e.
> >  >material that is discriminatory, hateful, vulgar, pornographic,
> >  >sexually-explicit, or obscene). This e-mail contains 
> information that is
> >  >considered inappropriate for the business environment and 
> has been logged and
> >  >will be reviewed to determine final disposition. If you 
> have any questions,
> >  >please direct them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  >  ' porn ' found!
> > 
> >  >Mail has been archived!
> > 
> > 
> 

Re: [newbie] watch what you say on this list

[Michael R. Batchelor]

This "filtering" isn't done by Mandrake, but by someone's site who is
subscribed to the list. I've gotten a couple back from the same site
myself, related to some oddball word they considered "forbidden". Just
blow them off as paranoid. They're free to run their site any way they
feel.

I think the Mandrake site archives all the maillist messages. But not
all sites archive all their mail. We sure don't. The warning message
only comes back to the person who originally sent the message, not to
the list, so they aren't really singling out anyone other than the poor
sucker on the list who isn't getting these filter messages.

Michael


>This is news to me. Not good news either.
>
>Not that I'm trying to be sarcastic, but isn't all mail archived
anyway?

Re: [newbie] watch what you say on this list

[flupke]

Well, I also had the same problem while answering to someone stating that
a program told him that "his kernel was an asshole" or something like
that.
I really don't apprciate this kind of mail sniffing. I find that
outrageous.
I sent them a mail, asking for explaination, who they were to afford to
watch my mail, saying that couldn't let a robot judge the content of an
email, etc...
Of course, I didn't receive any answer. I really think we should do
something against those people. I don't know what, but we have to find
something. Thinking about those guyz makes me sick!
Maybe adding a word like "porn", or "asshole" or something like that in
*EVERY* mail sent to the list would annoy them enough. Or if everyone
could send them a mail to ask for explaination would convice these guyz to
leave us alone and let the ineternet be a place of freedom.
Maybe others will have better suggestions.

I usually don't smile about other's problems, but I'm kind of glad that
this didn't happen only to me.

Flupke

On Mon, 8 May 2000, WolfRyder wrote:

> Following is a copy of an email I am sending to the "filtering" site that 
> linux-mandrake uses. This is in reference to the email thread about 
> "Parental Control".
> 
> I received an email just now saying my email was " inappropriate subject 
> matter ". It was logged by you. I don't understand why, though. I was 
> answering an email on a listserv of which I am a member and we were 
> discussing filtering software for Linux as opposed to parental monitoring.
> 
> I don't understand why I was singled out for this type of monitoring when 
> the other people the list used the same word as I, but were not censured 
> (as far as I know).
> 
> You can bet I won't be discussing the merits of software filtering on that 
> list again. If they use this service to strike fear in the hearts of it's 
> participants when discussing possible writing of filtering options, it's 
> not a site I wish to respond to at all.
> 
> I am therefore unsubscribing right now.
> Carol
> 
> 
>  >MIMEsweeper ChineseWall
>  >Server:   CN=NS005/OU=DSRV/O=Texas Utilities
> ->-- 
> -
>  >Mail-Info
> 
>  >From:   WolfRyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> @ TU
>  >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >Date:   05/08/2000 07:42:46 AM
>  >Subject:Re: [newbie] Parental Control
>  >-- 
> --
>  >'ChineseWall Job' reports:
> 
>  >TXU automatically screens all e-mail for inappropriate subject matter (i.e.
>  >material that is discriminatory, hateful, vulgar, pornographic,
>  >sexually-explicit, or obscene). This e-mail contains information that is
>  >considered inappropriate for the business environment and has been logged and
>  >will be reviewed to determine final disposition. If you have any questions,
>  >please direct them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  ' porn ' found!
> 
>  >Mail has been archived!
> 
> 

Re: [newbie] watch what you say on this list

[Nathan Hopper]

This is news to me. Not good news either.

Not that I'm trying to be sarcastic, but isn't all mail archived anyway?

Nathan
- Original Message -
From: "WolfRyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:29 AM
Subject: [newbie] watch what you say on this list


> Following is a copy of an email I am sending to the "filtering" site that
> linux-mandrake uses. This is in reference to the email thread about
> "Parental Control".
>
> I received an email just now saying my email was " inappropriate subject
> matter ". It was logged by you. I don't understand why, though. I was
> answering an email on a listserv of which I am a member and we were
> discussing filtering software for Linux as opposed to parental monitoring.
>
> I don't understand why I was singled out for this type of monitoring when
> the other people the list used the same word as I, but were not censured
> (as far as I know).
>
> You can bet I won't be discussing the merits of software filtering on that
> list again. If they use this service to strike fear in the hearts of it's
> participants when discussing possible writing of filtering options, it's
> not a site I wish to respond to at all.
>
> I am therefore unsubscribing right now.
> Carol
>
>
>  >MIMEsweeper ChineseWall
>  >Server:   CN=NS005/OU=DSRV/O=Texas Utilities
> ->
--
> -
>  >Mail-Info
>
>  >From:   WolfRyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> @ TU
>  >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >Date:   05/08/2000 07:42:46 AM
>  >Subject:Re: [newbie] Parental Control
>
>--
> --
>  >'ChineseWall Job' reports:
>
>  >TXU automatically screens all e-mail for inappropriate subject matter
(i.e.
>  >material that is discriminatory, hateful, vulgar, pornographic,
>  >sexually-explicit, or obscene). This e-mail contains information that is
>  >considered inappropriate for the business environment and has been
logged and
>  >will be reviewed to determine final disposition. If you have any
questions,
>  >please direct them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  ' porn ' found!
>
>  >Mail has been archived!
>
>

[newbie] watch what you say on this list

[WolfRyder]

Following is a copy of an email I am sending to the "filtering" site that 
linux-mandrake uses. This is in reference to the email thread about 
"Parental Control".

I received an email just now saying my email was " inappropriate subject 
matter ". It was logged by you. I don't understand why, though. I was 
answering an email on a listserv of which I am a member and we were 
discussing filtering software for Linux as opposed to parental monitoring.

I don't understand why I was singled out for this type of monitoring when 
the other people the list used the same word as I, but were not censured 
(as far as I know).

You can bet I won't be discussing the merits of software filtering on that 
list again. If they use this service to strike fear in the hearts of it's 
participants when discussing possible writing of filtering options, it's 
not a site I wish to respond to at all.

I am therefore unsubscribing right now.
Carol


 >MIMEsweeper ChineseWall
 >Server:   CN=NS005/OU=DSRV/O=Texas Utilities
->-- 
-
 >Mail-Info

 >From:   WolfRyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> @ TU
 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >Date:   05/08/2000 07:42:46 AM
 >Subject:Re: [newbie] Parental Control
 >-- 
--
 >'ChineseWall Job' reports:

 >TXU automatically screens all e-mail for inappropriate subject matter (i.e.
 >material that is discriminatory, hateful, vulgar, pornographic,
 >sexually-explicit, or obscene). This e-mail contains information that is
 >considered inappropriate for the business environment and has been logged and
 >will be reviewed to determine final disposition. If you have any questions,
 >please direct them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >  ' porn ' found!

 >Mail has been archived!