Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-21 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 05:17, Mark Weaver wrote:

> yeah...i guess you're right, but ya can't blame a fella for tryin. what 
> else could I do? guess I shouldn't complain too awfully much because it 
> does cause me to "have" to learn more about securing my box and it's 
> services.

Maybe instead of sending them 1 (read ONE) email, send them 10,000
emails? Ya'd reckon they'd take notice of that - even if they don't
speak Engslosh...

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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-21 Thread et
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 01:17 pm, Mark Weaver wrote:
> et wrote:
> >>hmwhat-er-ya trying to say et? you don't think they can read
> >>english er somthin?
> >
> > or they are less likely to give a $hit than my cat
>
> yeah...i guess you're right, but ya can't blame a fella for tryin. what
> else could I do? guess I shouldn't complain too awfully much because it
> does cause me to "have" to learn more about securing my box and it's
> services.
No, don't get me wrong... I think,,, no I KNOW you did the right thing,,, I 
just also know that sometimes, after doing "the right thing" you might not 
ever perceive a change at all from it. especially if it requires action from 
someone that is not going to receive compensation for the time involved for 
them.


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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-21 Thread Mark Weaver
et wrote:

hmwhat-er-ya trying to say et? you don't think they can read
english er somthin?


or they are less likely to give a $hit than my cat


yeah...i guess you're right, but ya can't blame a fella for tryin. what 
else could I do? guess I shouldn't complain too awfully much because it 
does cause me to "have" to learn more about securing my box and it's 
services.

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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-21 Thread et

> hmwhat-er-ya trying to say et? you don't think they can read
> english er somthin?
or they are less likely to give a $hit than my cat


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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-21 Thread Mark Weaver
et wrote:

On Monday 20 January 2003 02:56 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote:


On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:


On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 5:29 am, Robin Turner wrote:


Richard Babcock wrote:


Interesting article in my local paper.


http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/3582809.html


Looks like we got our user base!

Sir Robin


When I was there 18 months ago it was common to see buses with linux
slogans on the side.

Anne


as a followup to this thread this morning when I opened my email client
there was the usual message from the system with the overnight logs for
review. at the top of the list was about 75 lines revealing a brute force
attack that was launched against my server around 8:00 am Sunday morning.
apparently, from the logs they were attempting to gain access through
ipop3d by running a list of possible login usernames. they were of course
quite unsuccessful. Chinanet appears to have more then their fair share of
no-job-havin-script-kiddie-scumbags that have nothing better to do then
behave as low-brow felons.

I just wish the Chinese ISP's would respond to the emails I've been
sending them letting them know their network is being used to attempt
illegal access of remote computer systems!


you are s damn funny...I am laffing my ass off at that idea ... not even 
an anagram. 

hmwhat-er-ya trying to say et? you don't think they can read 
english er somthin?

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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-20 Thread et
On Monday 20 January 2003 02:56 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 5:29 am, Robin Turner wrote:
> > > Richard Babcock wrote:
> > > > Interesting article in my local paper.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/3582809.html
> > >
> > > Looks like we got our user base!
> > >
> > > Sir Robin
> >
> > When I was there 18 months ago it was common to see buses with linux
> > slogans on the side.
> >
> > Anne
>
> as a followup to this thread this morning when I opened my email client
> there was the usual message from the system with the overnight logs for
> review. at the top of the list was about 75 lines revealing a brute force
> attack that was launched against my server around 8:00 am Sunday morning.
> apparently, from the logs they were attempting to gain access through
> ipop3d by running a list of possible login usernames. they were of course
> quite unsuccessful. Chinanet appears to have more then their fair share of
> no-job-havin-script-kiddie-scumbags that have nothing better to do then
> behave as low-brow felons.
>
> I just wish the Chinese ISP's would respond to the emails I've been
> sending them letting them know their network is being used to attempt
> illegal access of remote computer systems!
you are s damn funny...I am laffing my ass off at that idea ... not even 
an anagram. 


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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-20 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Anne Wilson wrote:

> On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 5:29 am, Robin Turner wrote:
> > Richard Babcock wrote:
> > > Interesting article in my local paper.
> > >
> > >
> > >  http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/3582809.html
> >
> > Looks like we got our user base!
> >
> > Sir Robin
> 
> When I was there 18 months ago it was common to see buses with linux slogans 
> on the side.
> 
> Anne

as a followup to this thread this morning when I opened my email client 
there was the usual message from the system with the overnight logs for 
review. at the top of the list was about 75 lines revealing a brute force 
attack that was launched against my server around 8:00 am Sunday morning. 
apparently, from the logs they were attempting to gain access through 
ipop3d by running a list of possible login usernames. they were of course 
quite unsuccessful. Chinanet appears to have more then their fair share of 
no-job-havin-script-kiddie-scumbags that have nothing better to do then 
behave as low-brow felons.

I just wish the Chinese ISP's would respond to the emails I've been 
sending them letting them know their network is being used to attempt 
illegal access of remote computer systems! 

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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-20 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Wed, 16 Jan 2003, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

> On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 04:13, Mark Weaver wrote:
> > On Wednesday 15 January 2003 12:39 am, Stephen Kuhn scribbled nervously:
> > > On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 13:09, Mark Weaver wrote:
> > > > That would certainly explain all the crack attempts at my system over the
> > > > last few months. Hell! I don't even bother going to the whois query
> > > > servers any more I've become so familiar with the IP addy's that are
> > > > showing up in my log files. I just write the owner of the netblock and
> > > > tell'em to put those dogs on a shorter leash cause I don't like'em
> > > > screwin around at the doors trying to find a weakness somewhere.
> > > > - --
> > > > Mark
> > >
> > > You've actually got people trying to hack your linux box? And they're
> > > from the same block/class of IP's? Where are the IP's from? Did you piss
> > > someone off?
> > 
> > not that I'm aware of. Most are scans and probes, but there have been a few 
> > attempts at over-running a few of the services I've got running here and 
> > there. thankfully, all of them unsuccessful.
> 
> I had ONE person try to muck with my machine - and I literally opened
> the door for him to do so - but he didn't get very far - after he had
> got in via ftp (duh - as anonymous) I blasted him with a binary file and
> his modem went "north" (or south, whatever)...
> (Old BBS trick of sending command.com at their modem, basically)

Wow! please elaborate. I am seriously interested in knowing the reasons 
behind that and why sending a file like that would be a problem to the 
remote modem. sounds very interesting.  

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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-15 Thread Brandon Vanderberg
I had the same issue. My policy drops unwanted traffic already, but it
notifies me every time it does. This is what I want normally. However,
there's SO much coming from Asia, I've added the following rules. This
way, drops from addresses issued from APNIC never show up in my log.

DROP  net:61.0.0.0/8  fw  tcp -   -
DROP  net:202.0.0.0/7 fw  tcp -   -
DROP  net:210.0.0.0/7 fw  tcp -   -
DROP  net:218.0.0.0/7 fw  tcp -   -
DROP  net:220.0.0.0/7 fw  tcp -   -
DROP  net:169.208.0.0/12  fw  tcp -   -

~Brandon


On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 18:09, Mark Weaver wrote:
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> On Wednesday 15 January 2003 12:29 am, Robin Turner scribbled incoherently:
> > Richard Babcock wrote:
> > > Interesting article in my local paper.
> > >
> > >
> > >  http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/3582809.html
> >
> > Looks like we got our user base!
> >
> > Sir Robin
> 
> That would certainly explain all the crack attempts at my system over the last 
> few months. Hell! I don't even bother going to the whois query servers any 
> more I've become so familiar with the IP addy's that are showing up in my log 
> files. I just write the owner of the netblock and tell'em to put those dogs 
> on a shorter leash cause I don't like'em screwin around at the doors trying 
> to find a weakness somewhere.
> - -- 
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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-14 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 13:09, Mark Weaver wrote:

> That would certainly explain all the crack attempts at my system over the last 
> few months. Hell! I don't even bother going to the whois query servers any 
> more I've become so familiar with the IP addy's that are showing up in my log 
> files. I just write the owner of the netblock and tell'em to put those dogs 
> on a shorter leash cause I don't like'em screwin around at the doors trying 
> to find a weakness somewhere.
> - -- 
> Mark

You've actually got people trying to hack your linux box? And they're
from the same block/class of IP's? Where are the IP's from? Did you piss
someone off?

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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-14 Thread Mark Weaver
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On Wednesday 15 January 2003 12:29 am, Robin Turner scribbled incoherently:
> Richard Babcock wrote:
> > Interesting article in my local paper.
> >
> >
> >  http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/3582809.html
>
> Looks like we got our user base!
>
> Sir Robin

That would certainly explain all the crack attempts at my system over the last 
few months. Hell! I don't even bother going to the whois query servers any 
more I've become so familiar with the IP addy's that are showing up in my log 
files. I just write the owner of the netblock and tell'em to put those dogs 
on a shorter leash cause I don't like'em screwin around at the doors trying 
to find a weakness somewhere.
- -- 
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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-14 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 16:29, Robin Turner wrote:
> Richard Babcock wrote:
> > Interesting article in my local paper.
> 
> > 
> >  http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/3582809.html
> 
> Looks like we got our user base!
> 
> Sir Robin
> 

Okay! Now, Sir Robin, it is your mission - if you choose to accept it -
to convert the Turkish Nation into a Linux Nation...teach them the
freedoms and liberties associated with linux - teach them the true
flexibility of window managers - teach them the light of customisation
and creative hacking. Teach them "The Way" - show them that "The Force"
is a Penguin!

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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-14 Thread Michael Scottaline
>http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/3582809.html

1.3 billion folks can't be wrong  ;o)
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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-14 Thread Robin Turner
Richard Babcock wrote:

Interesting article in my local paper.




 http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/3582809.html


Looks like we got our user base!

Sir Robin



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[newbie] why china likes linux

2003-01-13 Thread Richard Babcock
Interesting article in my local paper.
R
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Tower Training
At Tower Training, We Bring the Classroom to You!
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