Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
That was just the name that was attached to that one mail in question. as I understand it, it can take a number of names from the hard drive of the person who sent it to you really why , if you have a box that can run Mdk, and you do have MDK, would you run the risk? it seems to me so much more ...shall we say "intelligent" to use the OS that is NOT vulnerable. don't take it as a flame, or as directed to you personallly (unless the shoe fits) when some of the folks who know better, get frustrated at those who refuse to know better, especially since it costs everyone for the crap MS push down the consumers throat. if you don't think the chewing up of bandwidth by M$ propagated worms costs folks that don't use M$ products, ask your ISP for a rebate, since you don't spread worms as a linux user. (who NEVER signs in as root, when a network interface is up) or ask a PSInet stock holder. On Wednesday 28 November 2001 13:22, you wrote: > Ed Tharp wrote: > > if you read in linux, then the viri ain't your problem, if you are a M$ > > user, look for a file called setup.pif. > > thank you, ed. > > i use both linux and ms, but do email in ms. i like early version, 4.07, > of netscape, and it is not available for linux. > > would you know what date message was sent and 'subject:'? > > reason i ask, i would like to check back and see what happened and why i > did not see it come into this system. > > i have ms os locked down and should have seen it come thru. i need to > check back thru ms and linux logs to insure that i did not release it. > > neither i, nor any of my clients have had a problem, but i do want to > know for sure. > > sending list a flame about a virus/worm without full info is almost as > bad as sending virus. > > > tc,hago. > > g > . > > =+= > think green... > save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. >send text email.. text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code > =+= > if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". > =+= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
Manuel Drake wrote: > I thought I was talking of both. was not sure. why i asked. > Hrmm, unsure, yes, nothing before 4.08 is findable for me. > Ah, messenger... no, never, bit of a security hole letting your browser > know your email address. interesting. would you please elabarate? i have a lot of nc email that i will need to maintain, and i plan to end up using mutt. > good question, I'll have to look around, but would start with download.com i will go back thru my old distrib cds, rh4.0 and up, to see what is on them. several had netscape on them, but i do not recall what version. > hope so, good luck. thank you. and thank you again for your responce. tc,hago. g . =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send text email.. text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". =+= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, g wrote: > Manuel Drake wrote: > > > I think it's the 4.08 netscape navigator that you use, and yes, it's > > available for linux too, as I use it now. > > actually, i am using 4.06. or are you refering to what is avaiable > for linux? I thought I was talking of both. > not sure about version diffs between linux and ms, but there was a > drastic change from 4.06 to 4.08. Hrmm, unsure, yes, nothing before 4.08 is findable for me. > 4.06 messenger is in seperate windows, where 4.08 is all in one. > which i do not care for and why i held with 4.06. Ah, messenger... no, never, bit of a security hole letting your browser know your email address. I use the standalone navigator ONLY. > i would like to look at 4.08 linux. where did you find it? good question, I'll have to look around, but would start with download.com > > just an FYI > > and just maybe what i am looking for. thanks. hope so, good luck. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
Manuel Drake wrote: > I think it's the 4.08 netscape navigator that you use, and yes, it's > available for linux too, as I use it now. actually, i am using 4.06. or are you refering to what is avaiable for linux? not sure about version diffs between linux and ms, but there was a drastic change from 4.06 to 4.08. 4.06 messenger is in seperate windows, where 4.08 is all in one. which i do not care for and why i held with 4.06. i would like to look at 4.08 linux. where did you find it? > just an FYI and just maybe what i am looking for. thanks. tc,hago. g . =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send text email.. text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". =+= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, g wrote: > Ed Tharp wrote: > > > > if you read in linux, then the viri ain't your problem, if you are a M$ user, > > look for a file called setup.pif. > > thank you, ed. > > i use both linux and ms, but do email in ms. i like early version, 4.07, > of netscape, and it is not available for linux. I think it's the 4.08 netscape navigator that you use, and yes, it's available for linux too, as I use it now. just an FYI Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
Ed Tharp wrote: > > if you read in linux, then the viri ain't your problem, if you are a M$ user, > look for a file called setup.pif. thank you, ed. i use both linux and ms, but do email in ms. i like early version, 4.07, of netscape, and it is not available for linux. would you know what date message was sent and 'subject:'? reason i ask, i would like to check back and see what happened and why i did not see it come into this system. i have ms os locked down and should have seen it come thru. i need to check back thru ms and linux logs to insure that i did not release it. neither i, nor any of my clients have had a problem, but i do want to know for sure. sending list a flame about a virus/worm without full info is almost as bad as sending virus. tc,hago. g . =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send text email.. text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". =+= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
if you read in linux, then the viri ain't your problem, if you are a M$ user, look for a file called setup.pif. On Tuesday 27 November 2001 23:28, you wrote: > Franki wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Frank McKenna just sent the list the above virus/worm.. the email will > > try to automatically save the file and opens it in media player.. > > ok. so frank mckenna sent list a virus/worm. > > well, not really... virus/worm sent itself. > > frank did not send virus/worm intentionally, with malaise or malice. > > shit happens when you eat regularly. virus/worm happen when you use ms. > > when did this virus get sent? what was 'subject:'? > > if you are going to inform, please inform. tho from 'hate mail' sent to > list, you should have informed frank off list. > > i have check thru all messages from this list for all messages sent by > frank, and i have yet to find any indication of a virus. only attachments > were mandrake's attached pack/service spam. > > even check norton antivirus for any quarantines and there were none. > > if this virus/worm got thru to my systems, i would like to clean it out. > as i am sure anyone else using ms would like to do. > > one thing that i did note for sure. those who replied blasting frank and > microsoft, do not seem to know how to cut out unneeded quotes. but that > seems to be norm for this list. > > no, i do not like ms bs. have not liked it from first dos version he > stoled from digital research. but, like others, i have to use it because > of clients that have to use it. > > this is not a perfect world, nor is usa a perfect country. if it was, > bg would still be in jail and we would all still be enjoying unix, > cp/m, cdos, and drdos. > > frank, glad you were able to get your system cleaned up frank. i lost 2.5 > months of work thanks to a trojan sent by ole. > > as a suggestion, for those having to use ms, drop ie and ole. use netscape > or some other good msos browser and mail handler. install norton antivirus, > or what ever, and keep it updated. > > > > tc,hago. > > g > . > > =+= > think green... > save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. >send text email.. text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code > =+= > if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". > =+= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
Franki wrote: > > Hi all, > > Frank McKenna just sent the list the above virus/worm.. the email will > try to automatically save the file and opens it in media player.. ok. so frank mckenna sent list a virus/worm. well, not really... virus/worm sent itself. frank did not send virus/worm intentionally, with malaise or malice. shit happens when you eat regularly. virus/worm happen when you use ms. when did this virus get sent? what was 'subject:'? if you are going to inform, please inform. tho from 'hate mail' sent to list, you should have informed frank off list. i have check thru all messages from this list for all messages sent by frank, and i have yet to find any indication of a virus. only attachments were mandrake's attached pack/service spam. even check norton antivirus for any quarantines and there were none. if this virus/worm got thru to my systems, i would like to clean it out. as i am sure anyone else using ms would like to do. one thing that i did note for sure. those who replied blasting frank and microsoft, do not seem to know how to cut out unneeded quotes. but that seems to be norm for this list. no, i do not like ms bs. have not liked it from first dos version he stoled from digital research. but, like others, i have to use it because of clients that have to use it. this is not a perfect world, nor is usa a perfect country. if it was, bg would still be in jail and we would all still be enjoying unix, cp/m, cdos, and drdos. frank, glad you were able to get your system cleaned up frank. i lost 2.5 months of work thanks to a trojan sent by ole. as a suggestion, for those having to use ms, drop ie and ole. use netscape or some other good msos browser and mail handler. install norton antivirus, or what ever, and keep it updated. tc,hago. g . =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send text email.. text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". =+= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
keh??? nope, I am not a network admin at a uni, I am a net admin for an online payment gateway,, among other things... so when I am at home, (and I do all my talking to this list from home.. I don't really have more resouces then the average schmoo :-) I got hacked once long ago, (redhat 6.2 wu-ftp) and it made me ultra paranoid, and since then I have not had any box under my protection hacked (that I have been able to verify anyway), caught a virus, or anything else detrimental, since I get about 1000 emails a day, I get alot of virus's, so I had to learn quick how to deal with it.. especially since I have alot of windows users on our network that I can't do anything about, I just protect them as I can. (and before you say anything Tom, they all run apps that can't be swapped over to linux... otherwise I would have already.) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank McKenna Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 3:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. Hi All, I am virus free but it took awhile. My apologies to all. It appears that I caught the virus from a Samba list. Just my two cents about comments from this list > > you might want to check your system Frank... > > Franki Franki, you've been a big help and I have apreciated your advice but, if I remember correctly, you are Network Admin at a Uni so you definitely have more recourses at your disposal than the humble newbie such as myself. Tom, you have been a good resource to people as well and I have read with great interest some of the helpful replies that you have posted. Maybe you'd like to come up here and get one of the five modems that I have (three of which are definitely supposed to work on Linux) WORKING. I have followed directions, installed drivers, etc. I have had all modems detected in the BIOS but no of them worked and one even caused my system to crash to the point that it was unrecoverable I can't ignore your arrogance and pomposity with comments such as this " to (ignorant, computer illiterate) Winblows users lists and > newsgroups. You'll be very busy on a daily basis ... mostly" taken from your rant below. Where do you get off saying crap like this. We all have to start somewhere and connecting to this list by any means possible is a godsend to newbies Just my two cents - Original Message - From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. > On Monday 26 November 2001 12:13 pm, Franki wrote: > > > you might want to check your system Frank... > > Franki > >You need to check your system Franki since you sent with: > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) > X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 > Importance: Normal > >WHICH is a guaranteed virus transmission propagater to other > Windoze users, and pretty much fsck'ups the Net in general, even > fellow Linux users who have to put up with the damage y'all > propulgate to Net servers, and the stolen banwidth y'all suck up. > >I dunno how to convince y'all NEVER connect to the Net with, any > M$ product. There is no way to secure or defend an M$ system. > (period). You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective > firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing you've > accomplished is to fool yourself. > >If you dual boot, delete anything Winblows has to do with > connecting to the Net, unplug the phone line. Then you've got some > security, at least till you buy a CD or floppy with a winblows virus > on it. Buy a real modem and use a real OS to connect. > > It amazes me that some people who do run Linux (part time), believe > that connecting with Windoze is a good, or even tolerable idea. > Specially on this (Linux) list. Winsux virus warnings to this list > are OFF TOPIC, immaterial, and border on ridiculous. Post these > warnings to (ignorant, computer illiterate) Winblows users lists and > newsgroups. You'll be very busy on a daily basis ... mostly you'll > be weeks, even months and years behind > > Jeez, in a perfect world, Winblows users wouldn't be allowed to > connect. > > ... there ought'a be a law > > -- > Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA > > > Frank McKenna > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
ok, we know that most win firewall apps can't stop windows from sucking.. they have md5 hashkeys for all major apps to stop them being replaced by trojans, but windows can be tricked into allowing a trojan to talk though IE... big deal,, I have two antivirus apps on the PC, it'd have to be a damn new trojan to actually be savable to the hard disk. (which incidently is the recommended defence (antivir) that that article suggested.) one little point,, I wasn't aware that tiny firewall (linux) or InteractiveBastille did md5 hashkeys of executables at all... I actually think it would be fantastic if it did,, then we wouldn't have to worry so much about root kits... much of a muchance I think,, if you do the work, you can secure any OS to about 98 or so %... M$ just requires much more work.. and I keep saying this ITS BEHIND A LINUX FIREWALL, WITH SNORT and PORTSENTRY what more could I possibly do to secure this thing... grc (and my own port scanner tell me absolutly everything is blocked (and I scanned 64000 ports.).. thats about as good as I need to be.) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2001 8:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. On Tuesday 27 November 2001 04:23 am, Franki wrote: > RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.yeah, I agree,,, > > I hate microsoft as much as the next guy, probably more, but I > have to write perl scripts that work and are tested in windows and > linux, so I have to have a windows box.. > I also have a winmodem in my notebook that I need when out of town. > > so I loaded win2000 pro, then loaded all patches an service packs, > then turned off all the dangerous stuff in outlook and IE... > then loaded pccillin and innoculate PE (which is a free antivirus > for windows), then I downloaded the FREE Tiny firewall package, > which is regarded as being the > best firewall package for windows workstations.. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5099447,00.html Franki, there's almost as many articles of this nature on the Net as there are constant reports of new security flaws in Windoze products. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA > > AND, > > This thing sits behind a linux masq box with a very tight firewall > (BASICALLY NO SERVICES OPEN. AND NO ICMP) and it also retrieves its > mail from another linux box running postfix that scans all incoming > and outgoing mail for > virus's, and doesn't let them though... (using amavis and the free > Trend filescan.) > > > So I don't know, I am fairly confident that I am not presently > hackable... > > GRC reports me as being entirely invisable... so its at least > fairly hard to do. which is more then anyone can ask nowdays. > > When I have no reason to use winblows, then I won't,,, but right > now thats not an option.. > > even if windows does suck, and we all know it does,, I have secured > it as much as possible and IT IS sitting behind a linux firewall > and MASQ ,,, > > I think it is pretty safe.. and I don't think I am fooling myself. > > Tell me how my security is Lax ??? > > > rgds > > Frank > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harrison, Neil > Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2001 8:39 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. > > > You are a very angry, bitter man. > > See "y'all" later > > -Original Message- > From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. > > On Monday 26 November 2001 12:13 pm, Franki wrote: > > you might want to check your system Frank... > > Franki > > You need to check your system Franki since you sent with: > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) > X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 > Importance: Normal > > WHICH is a guaranteed virus transmission propagater to other > Windoze users, and pretty much fsck'ups the Net in general, even > fellow Linux users who have to put up with the damage y'all > propulgate to Net servers, and the stolen banwidth y'all suck up. > > I dunno how to convince y'all NEVER connect to the Net with, > any M$ product. There is no way to secure or defend an M$ system. > (period). You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective > firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing > you've accomplished is to fool yourself. >
Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
On Tuesday 27 November 2001 04:23 am, Franki wrote: > RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.yeah, I agree,,, > > I hate microsoft as much as the next guy, probably more, but I > have to write perl scripts that work and are tested in windows and > linux, so I have to have a windows box.. > I also have a winmodem in my notebook that I need when out of town. > > so I loaded win2000 pro, then loaded all patches an service packs, > then turned off all the dangerous stuff in outlook and IE... > then loaded pccillin and innoculate PE (which is a free antivirus > for windows), then I downloaded the FREE Tiny firewall package, > which is regarded as being the > best firewall package for windows workstations.. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5099447,00.html Franki, there's almost as many articles of this nature on the Net as there are constant reports of new security flaws in Windoze products. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA > > AND, > > This thing sits behind a linux masq box with a very tight firewall > (BASICALLY NO SERVICES OPEN. AND NO ICMP) and it also retrieves its > mail from another linux box running postfix that scans all incoming > and outgoing mail for > virus's, and doesn't let them though... (using amavis and the free > Trend filescan.) > > > So I don't know, I am fairly confident that I am not presently > hackable... > > GRC reports me as being entirely invisable... so its at least > fairly hard to do. which is more then anyone can ask nowdays. > > When I have no reason to use winblows, then I won't,,, but right > now thats not an option.. > > even if windows does suck, and we all know it does,, I have secured > it as much as possible and IT IS sitting behind a linux firewall > and MASQ ,,, > > I think it is pretty safe.. and I don't think I am fooling myself. > > Tell me how my security is Lax ??? > > > rgds > > Frank > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harrison, Neil > Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2001 8:39 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. > > > You are a very angry, bitter man. > > See "y'all" later > > -Original Message- > From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. > > On Monday 26 November 2001 12:13 pm, Franki wrote: > > you might want to check your system Frank... > > Franki > > You need to check your system Franki since you sent with: > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) > X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 > Importance: Normal > > WHICH is a guaranteed virus transmission propagater to other > Windoze users, and pretty much fsck'ups the Net in general, even > fellow Linux users who have to put up with the damage y'all > propulgate to Net servers, and the stolen banwidth y'all suck up. > > I dunno how to convince y'all NEVER connect to the Net with, > any M$ product. There is no way to secure or defend an M$ system. > (period). You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective > firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing > you've accomplished is to fool yourself. > > If you dual boot, delete anything Winblows has to do with > connecting to the Net, unplug the phone line. Then you've got > some security, at least till you buy a CD or floppy with a winblows > virus on it. Buy a real modem and use a real OS to connect. > > It amazes me that some people who do run Linux (part time), > believe that connecting with Windoze is a good, or even tolerable > idea. Specially on this (Linux) list. Winsux virus warnings to this > list are OFF TOPIC, immaterial, and border on ridiculous. Post > these warnings to (ignorant, computer illiterate) Winblows users > lists and newsgroups. You'll be very busy on a daily basis ... > mostly you'll be weeks, even months and years behind > >Jeez, in a perfect world, Winblows users wouldn't be allowed to > connect. > > ... there ought'a be a law > > -- > Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
Title: RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. yeah, I agree,,, I hate microsoft as much as the next guy, probably more, but I have to write perl scripts that work and are tested in windows and linux, so I have to have a windows box.. I also have a winmodem in my notebook that I need when out of town. so I loaded win2000 pro, then loaded all patches an service packs, then turned off all the dangerous stuff in outlook and IE... then loaded pccillin and innoculate PE (which is a free antivirus for windows), then I downloaded the FREE Tiny firewall package, which is regarded as being the best firewall package for windows workstations.. AND, This thing sits behind a linux masq box with a very tight firewall (BASICALLY NO SERVICES OPEN. AND NO ICMP) and it also retrieves its mail from another linux box running postfix that scans all incoming and outgoing mail for virus's, and doesn't let them though... (using amavis and the free Trend filescan.) So I don't know, I am fairly confident that I am not presently hackable... GRC reports me as being entirely invisable... so its at least fairly hard to do. which is more then anyone can ask nowdays. When I have no reason to use winblows, then I won't,,, but right now thats not an option.. even if windows does suck, and we all know it does,, I have secured it as much as possible and IT IS sitting behind a linux firewall and MASQ ,,, I think it is pretty safe.. and I don't think I am fooling myself. Tell me how my security is Lax ??? rgds Frank -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harrison, NeilSent: Tuesday, 27 November 2001 8:39 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. You are a very angry, bitter man. See "y'all" later -Original Message- From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. On Monday 26 November 2001 12:13 pm, Franki wrote: > you might want to check your system Frank... > Franki You need to check your system Franki since you sent with: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal WHICH is a guaranteed virus transmission propagater to other Windoze users, and pretty much fsck'ups the Net in general, even fellow Linux users who have to put up with the damage y'all propulgate to Net servers, and the stolen banwidth y'all suck up. I dunno how to convince y'all NEVER connect to the Net with, any M$ product. There is no way to secure or defend an M$ system. (period). You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing you've accomplished is to fool yourself. If you dual boot, delete anything Winblows has to do with connecting to the Net, unplug the phone line. Then you've got some security, at least till you buy a CD or floppy with a winblows virus on it. Buy a real modem and use a real OS to connect. It amazes me that some people who do run Linux (part time), believe that connecting with Windoze is a good, or even tolerable idea. Specially on this (Linux) list. Winsux virus warnings to this list are OFF TOPIC, immaterial, and border on ridiculous. Post these warnings to (ignorant, computer illiterate) Winblows users lists and newsgroups. You'll be very busy on a daily basis ... mostly you'll be weeks, even months and years behind Jeez, in a perfect world, Winblows users wouldn't be allowed to connect. ... there ought'a be a law -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA
Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
NOTE: may be offtopic mwehehehehehehe. sorry but i cant help but laugh with the description of tom. does the shoe fit? ;-) ciao! On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:38:32 -0800, "Harrison, Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You are a very angry, bitter man. See "y'all" later -Original Message- From: Tom Brinkman [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. -- "Programming, an artform that fights back." === Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer 25/F Equitable-PCI Tower ADB Ave. cor. Poveda St., Ortigas Center, Pasig City, Philippines 1605 Tel no: (632) 6383070 loc 75 === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
Title: RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. You are a very angry, bitter man. See "y'all" later -Original Message- From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. On Monday 26 November 2001 12:13 pm, Franki wrote: > you might want to check your system Frank... > Franki You need to check your system Franki since you sent with: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal WHICH is a guaranteed virus transmission propagater to other Windoze users, and pretty much fsck'ups the Net in general, even fellow Linux users who have to put up with the damage y'all propulgate to Net servers, and the stolen banwidth y'all suck up. I dunno how to convince y'all NEVER connect to the Net with, any M$ product. There is no way to secure or defend an M$ system. (period). You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing you've accomplished is to fool yourself. If you dual boot, delete anything Winblows has to do with connecting to the Net, unplug the phone line. Then you've got some security, at least till you buy a CD or floppy with a winblows virus on it. Buy a real modem and use a real OS to connect. It amazes me that some people who do run Linux (part time), believe that connecting with Windoze is a good, or even tolerable idea. Specially on this (Linux) list. Winsux virus warnings to this list are OFF TOPIC, immaterial, and border on ridiculous. Post these warnings to (ignorant, computer illiterate) Winblows users lists and newsgroups. You'll be very busy on a daily basis ... mostly you'll be weeks, even months and years behind Jeez, in a perfect world, Winblows users wouldn't be allowed to connect. ... there ought'a be a law -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA
RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
I'm assuming that this virus only affects Windows? My Norton AV just stopped this virus but couldn't clean it even though my AV data files are up to date. So, I had to quarantine the virus and then used the quarantine console to destroy it. At 04:56 AM 11/27/2001 +0800, Franki wrote: >yes, normally I agree with you, > >but I have tightened it up abit, > >many things in IE are turned off, outlook uses txt only, there is a firewall >on this box, and it also sits behind my linux firewall.. > >and its win2000SP2, which in and of itself does not mean much, but its far >more secure then win98, which again, isn't saying much.. but the fact is >that I have never been infected on this box for anything, due to my >paranoia... >(Tiny firewall, PC-cillan and Innoculate all running at all times, and like >I said, it sits behind a linux box and it gets its mail from a linux server >that uses amavis and postfix to check all incoming and outgoing mail for >Virus's... > >I only got franks email because the pattern file on the mail server was two >days old, and apparently the virus is newer.. >I just updated it and sent the virus though, and its all working fine. > > >Thanks for the concern though... :-) > > >rgds > > >Frank > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman >Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2001 2:19 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. > > >On Monday 26 November 2001 12:13 pm, Franki wrote: > >> you might want to check your system Frank... >> Franki > > You need to check your system Franki since you sent with: > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) >X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 >Importance: Normal > > WHICH is a guaranteed virus transmission propagater to other >Windoze users, and pretty much fsck'ups the Net in general, even >fellow Linux users who have to put up with the damage y'all >propulgate to Net servers, and the stolen banwidth y'all suck up. > > I dunno how to convince y'all NEVER connect to the Net with, any >M$ product. There is no way to secure or defend an M$ system. >(period). You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective >firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing you've >accomplished is to fool yourself. > > If you dual boot, delete anything Winblows has to do with >connecting to the Net, unplug the phone line. Then you've got some >security, at least till you buy a CD or floppy with a winblows virus >on it. Buy a real modem and use a real OS to connect. > > It amazes me that some people who do run Linux (part time), believe >that connecting with Windoze is a good, or even tolerable idea. >Specially on this (Linux) list. Winsux virus warnings to this list >are OFF TOPIC, immaterial, and border on ridiculous. Post these >warnings to (ignorant, computer illiterate) Winblows users lists and >newsgroups. You'll be very busy on a daily basis ... mostly you'll >be weeks, even months and years behind > > Jeez, in a perfect world, Winblows users wouldn't be allowed to >connect. > > ... there ought'a be a law > >-- > Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
On Monday 26 November 2001 03:56 pm, Franki wrote: > yes, normally I agree with you, > > but I have tightened it up abit, Abit, like Sony, Canon, and Asus, mostly sells stuff by name recognition, not continued quality , YMMV > > many things in IE are turned off, outlook uses txt only, >> You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective >> firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing >> you've accomplished is to fool yourself. Like I said Franki. Anyway, this childish script kiddie foolery only affects (other than stealin Net bandwidth) those that cling to M$ crap, has no place on this list ... an since I rarely comment on such, I'm sign' off on this subject. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
yes, normally I agree with you, but I have tightened it up abit, many things in IE are turned off, outlook uses txt only, there is a firewall on this box, and it also sits behind my linux firewall.. and its win2000SP2, which in and of itself does not mean much, but its far more secure then win98, which again, isn't saying much.. but the fact is that I have never been infected on this box for anything, due to my paranoia... (Tiny firewall, PC-cillan and Innoculate all running at all times, and like I said, it sits behind a linux box and it gets its mail from a linux server that uses amavis and postfix to check all incoming and outgoing mail for Virus's... I only got franks email because the pattern file on the mail server was two days old, and apparently the virus is newer.. I just updated it and sent the virus though, and its all working fine. Thanks for the concern though... :-) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2001 2:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm. On Monday 26 November 2001 12:13 pm, Franki wrote: > you might want to check your system Frank... > Franki You need to check your system Franki since you sent with: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal WHICH is a guaranteed virus transmission propagater to other Windoze users, and pretty much fsck'ups the Net in general, even fellow Linux users who have to put up with the damage y'all propulgate to Net servers, and the stolen banwidth y'all suck up. I dunno how to convince y'all NEVER connect to the Net with, any M$ product. There is no way to secure or defend an M$ system. (period). You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing you've accomplished is to fool yourself. If you dual boot, delete anything Winblows has to do with connecting to the Net, unplug the phone line. Then you've got some security, at least till you buy a CD or floppy with a winblows virus on it. Buy a real modem and use a real OS to connect. It amazes me that some people who do run Linux (part time), believe that connecting with Windoze is a good, or even tolerable idea. Specially on this (Linux) list. Winsux virus warnings to this list are OFF TOPIC, immaterial, and border on ridiculous. Post these warnings to (ignorant, computer illiterate) Winblows users lists and newsgroups. You'll be very busy on a daily basis ... mostly you'll be weeks, even months and years behind Jeez, in a perfect world, Winblows users wouldn't be allowed to connect. ... there ought'a be a law -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
On Monday 26 November 2001 12:13 pm, Franki wrote: > you might want to check your system Frank... > Franki You need to check your system Franki since you sent with: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal WHICH is a guaranteed virus transmission propagater to other Windoze users, and pretty much fsck'ups the Net in general, even fellow Linux users who have to put up with the damage y'all propulgate to Net servers, and the stolen banwidth y'all suck up. I dunno how to convince y'all NEVER connect to the Net with, any M$ product. There is no way to secure or defend an M$ system. (period). You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing you've accomplished is to fool yourself. If you dual boot, delete anything Winblows has to do with connecting to the Net, unplug the phone line. Then you've got some security, at least till you buy a CD or floppy with a winblows virus on it. Buy a real modem and use a real OS to connect. It amazes me that some people who do run Linux (part time), believe that connecting with Windoze is a good, or even tolerable idea. Specially on this (Linux) list. Winsux virus warnings to this list are OFF TOPIC, immaterial, and border on ridiculous. Post these warnings to (ignorant, computer illiterate) Winblows users lists and newsgroups. You'll be very busy on a daily basis ... mostly you'll be weeks, even months and years behind Jeez, in a perfect world, Winblows users wouldn't be allowed to connect. ... there ought'a be a law -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
