RE: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon
Rick 2 full featured cards that I like a lot are ATI Expert 2000 32MB Rage128 chip Janton 3DForce2-MX 32MB Nvidia GeForce2 Use www.pricewatch.com and you can find either card for $70 for the retail box, even less if you go OEM. Both work out of the box with 7.2 and 8.0. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Shear > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 9:13 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > > > I know all too well about the Proprietary architecture of certain > peripherals inside my Gateway. I was not too pleased to find > the Philips > CDR I purchased with it had no brand name in the firmware so > it couldn't be > flashed with Philips updates. Not too surprising the Radeon > card appears to > be a special version for Gateway as well. I can't complain > too much about > the quality of my machine it has worked quite well as it was > sold but I know > as soon as replacement time comes, I will build from scratch as I have > always done in the past. > > On a side note, if I do just replace the video card, are > there any good > quality sub $100 Cards that Linux likes from the get go > without having to > re-compile anything. I am a veteran in the Dos/Windows world > but a virgin > when it comes to Linux. > > TIA... Again, > > Rick > - Original Message - > From: "Ed Tharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Rick Shear'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Newbie (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 6:35 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > > > > afaik... also.. from past experience... you might not want > to contact DELL > > about using LINUX on a machine that is supposed to be under > warranty.. > they > > might end the warranty as use of LINUX used to void the > DELL win-warranty. > > (was a couple of years ago but just a call that said you had already > > installed linux would be the end of the warranty. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Charles A Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'Rick Shear'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "Newbie (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 8:43 AM > > Subject: RE: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > Since only the Dell supplied driver will work in Windows you have > received > > > what in technical terms is known as "the shaft". > > > > > > The card you have, while in fact a Radeon has been in some fashion > > > manufactured to be proprietary to Dell. > > > > > > The only option I can see, other than buying a New card, > is to contact > > Dell > > > Tech Support in the hopes that they can provide you with > assistance. > > > > > >Charles )-: > > > > > > Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. > > > > > >
Re: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon
I know all too well about the Proprietary architecture of certain peripherals inside my Gateway. I was not too pleased to find the Philips CDR I purchased with it had no brand name in the firmware so it couldn't be flashed with Philips updates. Not too surprising the Radeon card appears to be a special version for Gateway as well. I can't complain too much about the quality of my machine it has worked quite well as it was sold but I know as soon as replacement time comes, I will build from scratch as I have always done in the past. On a side note, if I do just replace the video card, are there any good quality sub $100 Cards that Linux likes from the get go without having to re-compile anything. I am a veteran in the Dos/Windows world but a virgin when it comes to Linux. TIA... Again, Rick - Original Message - From: "Ed Tharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Rick Shear'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Newbie (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > afaik... also.. from past experience... you might not want to contact DELL > about using LINUX on a machine that is supposed to be under warranty.. they > might end the warranty as use of LINUX used to void the DELL win-warranty. > (was a couple of years ago but just a call that said you had already > installed linux would be the end of the warranty. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Charles A Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Rick Shear'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Newbie (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 8:43 AM > Subject: RE: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > > > > > > Rick > > > > Since only the Dell supplied driver will work in Windows you have received > > what in technical terms is known as "the shaft". > > > > The card you have, while in fact a Radeon has been in some fashion > > manufactured to be proprietary to Dell. > > > > The only option I can see, other than buying a New card, is to contact > Dell > > Tech Support in the hopes that they can provide you with assistance. > > > >Charles )-: > > > > Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Shear > > > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:34 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > > > > > > > > > Would the fact that the Radeon card I have is SDR not DDR? I > > > know the card > > > requires a driver from Gateway to run windows. I haven't > > > found one on ATI's > > > site that will work. Maybe this card is just odd and causing > > > the problem. > > > The only other problem I could see is that I am installing on > > > my second hard > > > drive with lilo on the primary. > > > > > > Thanks for all the information, > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Charles A Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "'Rick Shear'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: "Newbie (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:43 AM > > > Subject: RE: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > > > > > > > > > > The Radeon requires X 4.02, so it is not going to work in a > > > stock 7.2 > > > > install > > > > and/or system. > > > > > > > > I currently have 2 Radeon cards, a 32MB DDR and a 64MB DDR > > > w/VIVO, and I > > > > think > > > > both cards are great. > > > > Both system, a Duron 800mhz and a t-bird 1.00ghz, have the > > > ASUS A7V MOBO > > > and > > > > Maxtor ATA100 hds. > > > > I have had no real problem either installing or running > > > SuSE7.1, RH 7.1, > > > and > > > > of course Mandrake 8.0. > > > > Additionally with Mandrake 8.0 I was using the experimental > > > 3d hardware > > > > acceleration. > > > > > > > >Charles (-: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
RE: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon
Rick Since only the Dell supplied driver will work in Windows you have received what in technical terms is known as "the shaft". The card you have, while in fact a Radeon has been in some fashion manufactured to be proprietary to Dell. The only option I can see, other than buying a New card, is to contact Dell Tech Support in the hopes that they can provide you with assistance. Charles )-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Shear > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:34 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > > > Would the fact that the Radeon card I have is SDR not DDR? I > know the card > requires a driver from Gateway to run windows. I haven't > found one on ATI's > site that will work. Maybe this card is just odd and causing > the problem. > The only other problem I could see is that I am installing on > my second hard > drive with lilo on the primary. > > Thanks for all the information, > > Rick > > - Original Message - > From: "Charles A Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Rick Shear'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Newbie (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:43 AM > Subject: RE: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > > > > The Radeon requires X 4.02, so it is not going to work in a > stock 7.2 > > install > > and/or system. > > > > I currently have 2 Radeon cards, a 32MB DDR and a 64MB DDR > w/VIVO, and I > > think > > both cards are great. > > Both system, a Duron 800mhz and a t-bird 1.00ghz, have the > ASUS A7V MOBO > and > > Maxtor ATA100 hds. > > I have had no real problem either installing or running > SuSE7.1, RH 7.1, > and > > of course Mandrake 8.0. > > Additionally with Mandrake 8.0 I was using the experimental > 3d hardware > > acceleration. > > > >Charles (-: > > > >
RE: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon
The Radeon requires X 4.02, so it is not going to work in a stock 7.2 install and/or system. I currently have 2 Radeon cards, a 32MB DDR and a 64MB DDR w/VIVO, and I think both cards are great. Both system, a Duron 800mhz and a t-bird 1.00ghz, have the ASUS A7V MOBO and Maxtor ATA100 hds. I have had no real problem either installing or running SuSE7.1, RH 7.1, and of course Mandrake 8.0. Additionally with Mandrake 8.0 I was using the experimental 3d hardware acceleration. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Shear > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > > > The chipset is the 751 Irongate. Unfortunately, I can't > trade in the radeon > as I have had the system for some time now. I got lazy this > time around and > bought a gateway about a year ago. My original video card in > the unit had > the GeForce 256 chipset but when that died, they swapped it > out for this ATI > board. :( > > Anyway, If I could find a mobo/processor combo with onboard > video & sound > under $200 that would run linux I could setup another system > & swap between > the two with a KVM switch. ... I know I made a bunch of > people cringe with > the onboard stuff, but as much as I dislike all in one > mobo's, due to the > price factor I will most likely have to go that way. > > Rick > > > - Original Message - > From: "Dan LaBine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Rick Shear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 10:46 AM > Subject: Re: Fw: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > > > > Rick; Your equipment is fine.But Mandrake isn't behaving > itself with the > > Radeon chipset yet. Depending on the motherboard, it either > works fine, > > or coughs up a hairball! Sound like you ended up with the > hairball. Try > > changing the Radeon in for an ATi Rage Fury Maxx or something with a > > Rage128 chipset. I know for a fact that it will run great! I have 7 > > systems with the exact same configuration, and they're all bug-less. > > When you take the Radeon back, the money you save can be > used for more > > RAM !!! Better yet, a Matrox G450 Dual-Head and twin 19" monitors! > > AAAaaagh ! ! ! Well, just a thought ! But seriously? > the Rage128. > > You can't go wrong. By the way, which AMD chipset? Is it an > "Irongate" > > chipset? Viper?? Cobra? Be prepared for a non-functional USB module. > > Also, try changing the mobo to an ASUS A7V. Use the old > board in another > > system which runs Windows. > > > > On 03 May 2001 09:42:35 -0500, Rick Shear wrote: > > > I have an Athlon 800 with an AMD chipset. I also have an > ATI Radeon > card > > > and cannot seem to get X to work. Tried 7.2... no luck. > Tried 8.0 > Won't > > > even boot after install just hangs. > > > > > > Running x configuration during install locks system. > > > > > > Can anyone recommend a good ultra low end > mobo/processor/video combo > that > > > will harmonize with 8.0. I want to set up a linux box to learn... > doesn't > > > have to be any kind of screamer. 3d graphics are of > little importance. > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > Rick > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Serge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Linux newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 9:01 AM > > > Subject: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I would like to know if someone has these 3 components : > > > > Athlon [500 MHZ] > > > > K7M motherboard > > > > Ati Radeon > > > > > > > > I cannot make my X works with the Radeon...With Mandrake 8.0 . > > > > During the configuration test i got blank screen > [sleep mode] and the > pc > > > > crashed > > > > > > > > I tried RedHat 7.1, it worked during the X > configuration, i logged in > once > > > as > > > > root, and then when i logged out, blank screen [sleep mode] and > > > > the pc crashed... > > > > > > > > > > > > Help please!! > > > > > > > > Thanx Serge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon
The chipset is the 751 Irongate. Unfortunately, I can't trade in the radeon as I have had the system for some time now. I got lazy this time around and bought a gateway about a year ago. My original video card in the unit had the GeForce 256 chipset but when that died, they swapped it out for this ATI board. :( Anyway, If I could find a mobo/processor combo with onboard video & sound under $200 that would run linux I could setup another system & swap between the two with a KVM switch. ... I know I made a bunch of people cringe with the onboard stuff, but as much as I dislike all in one mobo's, due to the price factor I will most likely have to go that way. Rick - Original Message - From: "Dan LaBine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rick Shear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > Rick; Your equipment is fine.But Mandrake isn't behaving itself with the > Radeon chipset yet. Depending on the motherboard, it either works fine, > or coughs up a hairball! Sound like you ended up with the hairball. Try > changing the Radeon in for an ATi Rage Fury Maxx or something with a > Rage128 chipset. I know for a fact that it will run great! I have 7 > systems with the exact same configuration, and they're all bug-less. > When you take the Radeon back, the money you save can be used for more > RAM !!! Better yet, a Matrox G450 Dual-Head and twin 19" monitors! > AAAaaagh ! ! ! Well, just a thought ! But seriously? the Rage128. > You can't go wrong. By the way, which AMD chipset? Is it an "Irongate" > chipset? Viper?? Cobra? Be prepared for a non-functional USB module. > Also, try changing the mobo to an ASUS A7V. Use the old board in another > system which runs Windows. > > On 03 May 2001 09:42:35 -0500, Rick Shear wrote: > > I have an Athlon 800 with an AMD chipset. I also have an ATI Radeon card > > and cannot seem to get X to work. Tried 7.2... no luck. Tried 8.0 Won't > > even boot after install just hangs. > > > > Running x configuration during install locks system. > > > > Can anyone recommend a good ultra low end mobo/processor/video combo that > > will harmonize with 8.0. I want to set up a linux box to learn... doesn't > > have to be any kind of screamer. 3d graphics are of little importance. > > > > TIA, > > > > Rick > > - Original Message - > > From: "Serge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Linux newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 9:01 AM > > Subject: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I would like to know if someone has these 3 components : > > > Athlon [500 MHZ] > > > K7M motherboard > > > Ati Radeon > > > > > > I cannot make my X works with the Radeon...With Mandrake 8.0 . > > > During the configuration test i got blank screen [sleep mode] and the pc > > > crashed > > > > > > I tried RedHat 7.1, it worked during the X configuration, i logged in once > > as > > > root, and then when i logged out, blank screen [sleep mode] and > > > the pc crashed... > > > > > > > > > Help please!! > > > > > > Thanx Serge > > > > > > > >
Fw: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon
I have an Athlon 800 with an AMD chipset. I also have an ATI Radeon card and cannot seem to get X to work. Tried 7.2... no luck. Tried 8.0 Won't even boot after install just hangs. Running x configuration during install locks system. Can anyone recommend a good ultra low end mobo/processor/video combo that will harmonize with 8.0. I want to set up a linux box to learn... doesn't have to be any kind of screamer. 3d graphics are of little importance. TIA, Rick - Original Message - From: "Serge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 9:01 AM Subject: [newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon > Hi > > I would like to know if someone has these 3 components : > Athlon [500 MHZ] > K7M motherboard > Ati Radeon > > I cannot make my X works with the Radeon...With Mandrake 8.0 . > During the configuration test i got blank screen [sleep mode] and the pc > crashed > > I tried RedHat 7.1, it worked during the X configuration, i logged in once as > root, and then when i logged out, blank screen [sleep mode] and > the pc crashed... > > > Help please!! > > Thanx Serge >
[newbie]HELP: Athlon, M7M and Radeon
Hi I would like to know if someone has these 3 components : Athlon [500 MHZ] K7M motherboard Ati Radeon I cannot make my X works with the Radeon...With Mandrake 8.0 . During the configuration test i got blank screen [sleep mode] and the pc crashed I tried RedHat 7.1, it worked during the X configuration, i logged in once as root, and then when i logged out, blank screen [sleep mode] and the pc crashed... Help please!! Thanx Serge
