Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message

2003-10-04 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:40:08 -0400
yankl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> love for communists ideas?

I agree that this kind of discussion is better left for the OT list, but
since I will never set foot in that cesspool again, let me just say
this:

being a critic of Bush does *not* make me a communist.

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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message

2003-10-03 Thread Aron Smith
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 16:40, yankl wrote:
> On Friday 03 October 2003 01:02 pm, Charlie M. wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > October 3, 2003 04:21 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 19:41, HaywireMac wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:12:32 -0600
> > > >
> > > > "Charlie M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > > > > But then what can we expect from MS software driven by a halfwit?
> > > >
> > > > George Bush's foreign policy?
> > > >
> > > > /ducks
> > >
> > > How DARE you insult Microsoft like that!
> >
> > You're both rotten to the core.
> >
> > Don't ever change. 
> >
> > C.
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> 
> I know I start another flame war on the list but:
> Am I the only conservative republican on the list?
> Could some one explain to me why so many people in tech are liberal democrats?
> You know once on the radio I heard some one say that since he is not lazy and 
> not stupid he must be a conservative. No one, I suspect lazy or stupid on 
> that list, so why that love for communists ideas?
come on over to the darkside ( the OT list )


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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message

2003-10-03 Thread Todd Slater
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 07:40:08PM -0400, yankl wrote:
> I know I start another flame war on the list but:
> Am I the only conservative republican on the list?
> Could some one explain to me why so many people in tech are liberal democrats?
> You know once on the radio I heard some one say that since he is not lazy and 
> not stupid he must be a conservative. No one, I suspect lazy or stupid on 
> that list, so why that love for communists ideas?

Well, free software is basically a liberal idea. I mean
liberal in the European sense, not the US sense where it has typically
come to refer to someone who is against individual responsibility, wants
all rapists and murderers to go free, and wants to eliminate God and
Jesus from the lexicon (this at least as the far-right would define
"liberal"). In the European sense I think it has to do with
freedom--free markets (thus the hatred for the evil empire), freedom to
do what we want with the hardware and software we purchase, freedom by
allowing anyone who wants to participate.

I'd like to separate forever the words "liberal democrat" and
"conservative republican". The democrats have given liberalism a dirty
name and whored themselves out and refuse to defend liberalism, trading
the possibility of electoral victory for the principles of liberalism.
And, I know many a fine republican who I feel are harmed by the label
conservative, though it doesn't have quite the damning sense of
"liberal". As George H. Bush said of Dukakis with utter disgust--"That
guy's a *liberal*! A card-carrying member of the ACLU!"

Please, I say this not to incite discussion, I'm just making a
statement. 

t

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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message

2003-10-03 Thread Heather/Femme
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:40:08 -0400
yankl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 No one, I
> suspect lazy or stupid on that list, so why that love for communists
> ideas?
> 
> -- 
> Yankl

Not going to flame you but I will say: because choice is the keystone of
the computer world in general.  so why shouldn't we love something
others may or may not?

I will not state My political affiliations, they are irrelevant.  And I
hope this goes no further here.  

Femme, card carrying pinko

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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message

2003-10-03 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Friday 03 October 2003 07:40 pm, yankl wrote:

>>> whack

> I know I start another flame war on the list but:
> Am I the only conservative republican on the list?
> Could some one explain to me why so many people in tech are liberal
> democrats? You know once on the radio I heard some one say that since he is
> not lazy and not stupid he must be a conservative. No one, I suspect lazy
> or stupid on that list, so why that love for communists ideas?

Yankl:
You are definitely NOT the only conservative republican on the list, but 
Haywire Mac is NOT one of them. (First of all, he lives in Canada, a country 
remarkable for its deficiency of Republicans.  OTOH, they have a party with 
the peculiar name of Progressive Conservative. Parse that one.) However, 
there have been several political flamewars in the past on this list, and one 
of them got way out of hand. It didn't take too long before a number of users 
objected. Eventually, calmer heads prevailed, and an OT list was established 
for that kind of stuff. (Sorry, I don't have the link, but I'm sure that 
someone will provide it.)

Hope you've had a better week than Rush.

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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message

2003-10-03 Thread Charlie M.
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October 3, 2003 05:40 pm, yankl wrote:
[..]
> I know I start another flame war on the list but:
> Am I the only conservative republican on the list?
> Could some one explain to me why so many people in tech are liberal
> democrats? You know once on the radio I heard some one say that since he is
> not lazy and not stupid he must be a conservative. No one, I suspect lazy
> or stupid on that list, so why that love for communists ideas?

I don't anticipate a flame war Yankl, but I very carefully didn't agree or 
disagree with the cheap shot at Bush. I just acknowledged that I found the 
crack itself humorous.

My "political conviction or affiliation" is of the same order as my religious 
beliefs. Non-existant and/or not subject to public discussion. 

Your preferences are your own business, and you're welcome to them. As are 
Stephen and T.B.M/JoeHill/Haywire Mac. If I thought any differently I'd be 
subscribed to the OT list where philosophical debate seems the norm.

I still found, from past experience reading their stated thoughts on the 
subject, the remark humorous; and whether I agree or disagree with the 
opinion doesn't lessen my respect for them.

Or you.

I'm fairly certain you aren't alone but this is the wrong forum for that 
subject.

Regards;
Charlie
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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message

2003-10-03 Thread yankl
On Friday 03 October 2003 01:02 pm, Charlie M. wrote:
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> October 3, 2003 04:21 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 19:41, HaywireMac wrote:
> > > On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:12:32 -0600
> > >
> > > "Charlie M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > > > But then what can we expect from MS software driven by a halfwit?
> > >
> > > George Bush's foreign policy?
> > >
> > > /ducks
> >
> > How DARE you insult Microsoft like that!
>
> You're both rotten to the core.
>
> Don't ever change. 
>
> C.
> - --
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> Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk
> 11:01:24 up 13 days, 22 min, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.27
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I know I start another flame war on the list but:
Am I the only conservative republican on the list?
Could some one explain to me why so many people in tech are liberal democrats?
You know once on the radio I heard some one say that since he is not lazy and 
not stupid he must be a conservative. No one, I suspect lazy or stupid on 
that list, so why that love for communists ideas?

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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message

2003-10-03 Thread Charlie M.
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October 3, 2003 04:21 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 19:41, HaywireMac wrote:
> > On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:12:32 -0600
> >
> > "Charlie M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > > But then what can we expect from MS software driven by a halfwit?
> >
> > George Bush's foreign policy?
> >
> > /ducks
>
> How DARE you insult Microsoft like that!
>
You're both rotten to the core.

Don't ever change. 

C.
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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message

2003-10-03 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 19:41, HaywireMac wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:12:32 -0600
> "Charlie M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> 
> > But then what can we expect from MS software driven by a halfwit?
> 
> George Bush's foreign policy?
> 
> /ducks

How DARE you insult Microsoft like that!

stephen kuhn - owner
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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message

2003-10-02 Thread Charlie M.
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October 2, 2003 11:51 pm, HaywireMac wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:48:16 +0700
>
> Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > > Did anyone else get this?
> > > This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy.  Please send
> > > no further newbie "communications"and remove my name from your list.
> >
> > Why did he complain to you in the first place? LOL. I think he missed
> > his target and aimed to you instead as the first name that popped up
> > out of his mind when he's thinking about mandrake list :)
>
> either way, he goes the same way as [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
> /dev/null

He/she/it must have selectively sent that to anyone that sent a message to the 
list late this afternoon. I got 4, Femme got it, Todd got it, probably 
others.

If it was a filter it was an awfully stupid one. But then what can we expect 
from MS software driven by a halfwit?

Filtered here too.

Charlie
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Given my druthers, I'd druther not.
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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message

2003-10-02 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:48:16 +0700
Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> > Did anyone else get this?
> > This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy.  Please send
> > no further newbie "communications"and remove my name from your list.
> 
> Why did he complain to you in the first place? LOL. I think he missed
> his target and aimed to you instead as the first name that popped up
> out of his mind when he's thinking about mandrake list :)

either way, he goes the same way as [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

/dev/null

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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message

2003-10-02 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Friday 03 October 2003 11:35 am, HaywireMac wrote:
> Did anyone else get this?
> This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy.  Please send no
> further newbie "communications"and remove my name from your list.

Why did he complain to you in the first place? LOL. I think he missed his 
target and aimed to you instead as the first name that popped up out of his 
mind when he's thinking about mandrake list :)

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Fw: Re: [newbie] SMS message

2003-10-02 Thread HaywireMac

Did anyone else get this?

Has this whole SMS thing just taken a turn for the bizarre?

Pippy seems...pissed.

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:18 -0700
From: "M J Pipkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "HaywireMac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [newbie] SMS message


This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy.  Please send no
further newbie "communications"and remove my name from your list.


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