Re: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]

1999-08-21 Thread Steve Philp

Civileme wrote:
> 
> As you mentioned, it is OT.  There are even worse problems on the box, though.  
>Remember,
> those of us who migrated, how you were asked if you wanted the dialer to remember 
>your
> password?  Those of you already canny about security said "No" and Windows stored it
> (unencrypted) anyway, but simply didn't link to it.
> 
> But we're on Linux here and it takes quite something to get through the security 
>even when
> passwords are known.  The "You crack it, you keep it." contest LinuxPPC ran included 
>as
> starting information the root password for their machine.  No one broke it, and the 
>prize is
> unclaimed.

That machine was also run by an extremely security conscious system
administrator.  Anyone want to proffer up their machine for the beating
that one took?  You have to be damn sure of your skills in securing a
machine (and the attached network) to taunt the world like that.

Thanks but no thanks...
-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]

1999-08-21 Thread Steve Philp

> Stephan Schutter wrote:
> 
> How do you do Net meeting or equivalent in LINUX? Is there such a
> thing?
> 
> Stephan Schutter

Turn off the HTML.

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]

1999-08-21 Thread Civileme

TeamWave Workplace is as good or better, without the security problems.

Check about NetMeeting at www.insecure.org.  Get someone to click on
your Info, take over his computer!

Also, Teaser/Firecat works and may someday replace ICQ and other
messengers because it is a protocol negotiator, eventually choosing the
best protocol to connect computers for the demands(text, phone, video
feed, etc.).  You can find it at www.freshmeat.net There are very few
Teaser servers running as yet, though.

Civileme

Stephan Schutter wrote:

>
>
> How do you do Net meeting or equivalent in LINUX? Is there such a
> thing?
>
> Stephan Schutter
>
> Tired of waiting for Windows 2000?
> STOP WAITING! http://www.ms-windows-2000.com/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Caymen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 9:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]
>
> All I want to know is why doesnt Microsoft keep thier hands out of
> stuff that doesnt belong to
> them? That makes me mad! Hello?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?, Bill Gates, KEEP YOUR
> GRUBBY HANDS OUT OF
> EVERYTHING THAT DOESNT SAY MICROSOFT!! Another reason why when I
> get my ISP working
> through LINUX I will be doing most everything in LINUX and forgetting
> about MS. Remember,
> Microsoft software is good as long as you dont have to pay money for
> it, and sometimes that is
> even debatable.
>
> Tom
> As soon as I learn more about LINUX, it is going to go on my computer.
>
> Michael Scottaline wrote:
>
> > Anyone catch this story??  Could have been Rick Fry's problemo, no??
>
> > about:http://cnnfn.com/1999/08/20/technology/wires/microsoft_wg/
> >
> > Mike   ;o)
> >
> > 
>
> > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at
> http://webmail.netscape.com.

--
Civileme Say:

"He who buys Pentium III had lots of bucks"





Re: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]

1999-08-21 Thread Civileme

As you mentioned, it is OT.  There are even worse problems on the box, though.  
Remember,
those of us who migrated, how you were asked if you wanted the dialer to remember your
password?  Those of you already canny about security said "No" and Windows stored it
(unencrypted) anyway, but simply didn't link to it.

But we're on Linux here and it takes quite something to get through the security even 
when
passwords are known.  The "You crack it, you keep it." contest LinuxPPC ran included as
starting information the root password for their machine.  No one broke it, and the 
prize is
unclaimed.

Civileme

Michael Scottaline wrote:

> Anyone catch this story??  Could have been Rick Fry's problemo, no??
> about:http://cnnfn.com/1999/08/20/technology/wires/microsoft_wg/
>
> Mike   ;o)
>
> 
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
>http://webmail.netscape.com.

--
Civileme Say:

"He who buys Pentium III had lots of bucks"





RE: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]

1999-08-21 Thread Ken Wilson

I guess it is possible.  Another reason to add to my arsenal of excuses
to continue migrating all my work at home from Windows to Linux.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael
> Scottaline
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 6:34 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]
>
>
> Anyone catch this story??  Could have been Rick Fry's problemo, no??
> about:http://cnnfn.com/1999/08/20/technology/wires/microsoft_wg/
>
> Mike   ;o)
>
> 
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at
> http://webmail.netscape.com.
>



RE: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]

1999-08-21 Thread Stephan Schutter
Title: RE: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]





How do you do Net meeting or equivalent in LINUX? Is there such a thing?


Stephan Schutter


Tired of waiting for Windows 2000?
STOP WAITING! http://www.ms-windows-2000.com/


-Original Message-
From: Caymen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 9:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]


All I want to know is why doesnt Microsoft keep thier hands out of stuff that doesnt belong to
them? That makes me mad! Hello?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?, Bill Gates, KEEP YOUR GRUBBY HANDS OUT OF
EVERYTHING THAT DOESNT SAY MICROSOFT!! Another reason why when I get my ISP working
through LINUX I will be doing most everything in LINUX and forgetting about MS. Remember,
Microsoft software is good as long as you dont have to pay money for it, and sometimes that is
even debatable.



Tom
As soon as I learn more about LINUX, it is going to go on my computer.


Michael Scottaline wrote:


> Anyone catch this story??  Could have been Rick Fry's problemo, no??
> about:http://cnnfn.com/1999/08/20/technology/wires/microsoft_wg/
>
> Mike   ;o)
>
> 
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.





Re: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]

1999-08-21 Thread Caymen

All I want to know is why doesnt Microsoft keep thier hands out of stuff that doesnt 
belong to
them? That makes me mad! Hello?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?, Bill Gates, KEEP YOUR GRUBBY HANDS OUT 
OF
EVERYTHING THAT DOESNT SAY MICROSOFT!! Another reason why when I get my ISP working
through LINUX I will be doing most everything in LINUX and forgetting about MS. 
Remember,
Microsoft software is good as long as you dont have to pay money for it, and sometimes 
that is
even debatable.


Tom
As soon as I learn more about LINUX, it is going to go on my computer.

Michael Scottaline wrote:

> Anyone catch this story??  Could have been Rick Fry's problemo, no??
> about:http://cnnfn.com/1999/08/20/technology/wires/microsoft_wg/
>
> Mike   ;o)
>
> 
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
>http://webmail.netscape.com.



Re: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]

1999-08-21 Thread Michael Scottaline

Anyone catch this story??  Could have been Rick Fry's problemo, no??
about:http://cnnfn.com/1999/08/20/technology/wires/microsoft_wg/

Mike   ;o)


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