Re: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16

2002-01-31 Thread Chris Ashmore


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Re: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16

2002-01-31 Thread nagaraj.b

www.whatismyip.com gave me - 202.86.166.182
traceroute to 202.86.166.182 goes through 10.0.1.254 -->  202.86.166.182.

and my gateway -->10.0.1.254
dhcp server -->10.0.1.254
dns server   -->10.0.1.254

my ip address 10.2.0.16 is assigned by dhcp server according to my ethernet
mac address , if i try to connect any other ethernet card the ip address is
not assigned (b'cose mac address is differenet )

i have not specified any proxy address in my web browser
Nor , i dont no whether he uses NAT.

I am new to networks

is there any tool to find , as to whether they are using NAT or anything
else.

As of now there is no ISP restrictions , ours is a new ISP ,
i have heard that the server is running redhat7.0

the gateway is not under my control to change any configuration


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From: "Mithrilhall2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16


> That sounds like an internal IP. If someone wants to reach you on that IP
> they'll need to be on the network as far as I know. If you going through a
> router see if you can find out what the public IP is.
>
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> Sent: January 31, 2002 4:25 PM
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>
> On Thursday 31 January 2002 12:26, you wrote:
>
> Check with your ISP and see if they have a proxy server running.  If so,
you
> can probably make your web services available via that route.  The proxy
> should be available via your lan, since it would be on the ISP's network.
>
> The purpose of a proxy server is to shield your local IP address from
> outside
> negative influences.  However in your case, it's main value would be in
> giving your machine access to the internet at large.
>
> > my ISP has assigned me ip: 10.2.0.16 in our LAN, since this ip adress is
> > not routable in the internet,
> > IS there any client by which i can make my system a web server , and can
> be
> > reached from any where in the world.
> >
> >
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Re: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16

2002-01-31 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Thursday 31 January 2002 21:55, you wrote:
> how would that work? surely for me to access that privately addressed
> machine i would have to have a public ip address or a domain name to put in
> my browser which has to be resolved to the isp's network and then they have
> to route/forward it to the private machine, this requires the co-operation
> of the isp?
> when we say 'lan' here we are taking about a local network of the isp that
> the user is connected to right?
> is this about trying to get around isp restrictions or just setting up a
> machine that is maybe running an os the isp doesn't support?
>
> bascule

The purpose of a proxy server is simple:  it provides access to the web for 
peeps who do not want their own local address accessed by influences on the 
internet.  It's generally considered a first line of defense.

A proxy server is there to provide all sorts of services.  That includes 
proxying of email ports, web ports, ftp ports, et al.  Now, your original 
question was if you could set up your web server to access the web even 
though you are on a private network.  I assume from what you've said that the 
private net is actually on the ISP's net.  Is that correct?

If so, there are only two questions you need to ask.  One, does the ISP 
actually have a proxy server on their premises.  Two, what is it you need to 
do to set up your web server for proxy operation.

The OS that the ISP supports is immaterial.  It does not matter wether the 
ISP has an education or not; Linux does not care.  What I'm saying is that 
you can make it work if your web server has provisions to use a proxy.


Andlastlymost browsers have provisons to use a proxy server.  Again, 
if the ISP has a proxy server, then you most likely have access to it.  This 
is a question you need to answer.  After that, all you need to do is to 
configure your browser for proxy operation, if you are also concerned about 
browsing.

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RE: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16

2002-01-31 Thread Mithrilhall2000

That sounds like an internal IP. If someone wants to reach you on that IP
they'll need to be on the network as far as I know. If you going through a
router see if you can find out what the public IP is.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir
Sent: January 31, 2002 4:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16


On Thursday 31 January 2002 12:26, you wrote:

Check with your ISP and see if they have a proxy server running.  If so, you
can probably make your web services available via that route.  The proxy
should be available via your lan, since it would be on the ISP's network.

The purpose of a proxy server is to shield your local IP address from
outside
negative influences.  However in your case, it's main value would be in
giving your machine access to the internet at large.

> my ISP has assigned me ip: 10.2.0.16 in our LAN, since this ip adress is
> not routable in the internet,
> IS there any client by which i can make my system a web server , and can
be
> reached from any where in the world.
>
>
>
> _
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16

2002-01-31 Thread Jim Dawson

Short awnser: No.

Long answer: NAT can be configured to map a real IP address to a NAT address, or to 
map a specific port on the Public side of the NAT device to a specific port on a 
specific NAT IP address, but the chances of getting your ISP to do so are slim to 
none. There is nothing you can do on your end to make your computer accessable outside 
the NAT address space.

-Original Message-
From: "nagaraj.b" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:26:28 -0800
Subject: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16

my ISP has assigned me ip: 10.2.0.16 in our LAN, since this ip adress is not
routable in the internet,
IS there any client by which i can make my system a web server , and can be
reached from any where in the world.



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Re: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16

2002-01-31 Thread Jim Dawson

Short awnser: No.

Long answer: NAT can be configured to map a real IP address to a NAT address, or to 
map a specific port on the Public side of the NAT device to a specific port on a 
specific NAT IP address, but the chances of getting your ISP to do so are slim to 
none. There is nothing you can do on your end to make your computer accessable outside 
the NAT address space.

-Original Message-
From: "nagaraj.b" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:26:28 -0800
Subject: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16

my ISP has assigned me ip: 10.2.0.16 in our LAN, since this ip adress is not
routable in the internet,
IS there any client by which i can make my system a web server , and can be
reached from any where in the world.



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Re: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16

2002-01-31 Thread Cyril Vassilchenko

No, you can not be reached directly unless your gateway server is hacked.
- Original Message -
From: "nagaraj.b" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16


> my ISP has assigned me ip: 10.2.0.16 in our LAN, since this ip adress is
not
> routable in the internet,
> IS there any client by which i can make my system a web server , and can
be
> reached from any where in the world.
>
>
>
> _
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
>






> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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RE: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16

2002-01-31 Thread Franki

setup the gateway machine to forward port 80 requests to port 80 on your
machine..

that would do what you want..

easy with iptables, or with ipmasqadm on ipchains systems.


rgds

Frank

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Sent: Friday, 1 February 2002 1:26 AM
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Subject: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16


my ISP has assigned me ip: 10.2.0.16 in our LAN, since this ip adress is not
routable in the internet,
IS there any client by which i can make my system a web server , and can be
reached from any where in the world.



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