Re: [newbie] Epson printer woes

[Angus Auld]

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From: "Angus Auld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 08:39:58 -0300
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Subject: [newbie] Epson printer woes

> Greetings, I am having a bit of difficulty getting 
> my Epson StylusColor 480SXU to work on my 
> Mdk 9.2 system. I had managed to get it to work 
> *OK* with the Turboprint driver (v1.86) previously, but I 
> updated to the latest Turboprint driver (v1.87), and I 
> can't for the life of me, get it to work with Turboprint. 
> Even going back to v1.86 proves unsuccessful.
> What am I doing wrong??
> 
> I am now trying to get it to work with the CUPS+Gimp-Print 
> v4.2.5 setup that Mdk provides, but all I can get from my 
> printer for output is a solid black page!! I have used up 
> almost half of a newly filled ink tank trying to get a proper 
> printout. :-/
> 
> Can anyone offer any help, or words of encouragement here?
> TIA for your time and patience.
> 
> --Angus
^^^
I got the thing working with Turboprint v1.87 :-).

My mistake was in not removing my previous printer 
instance first, before installing and setting up 
Turboprint. [:-)
After I did thatvoila! I need to THINK, THINK, THINK.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer C44/C64

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 30 December 2003 23:38, Michael Holt wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 14:08, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Michael - have you tried the driver from
> > http://www.epsondevelopers.com/epijs.jsp ?
> >
> > Anne
>
> Hi Anne,
> No, I hadn't, but just took a look.  It might be something worth
> investigating further - I haven't had much extra time lately to
> mess with things like that and it does seem a bit more involved
> however than just using printerdrake+cups.
>
> Thanks tho!

It has to be worth a try   Please let us know how you go on?

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer C44/C64

[Paul]

On 12/31/2003 07:45 AM, Graham Watkins wrote:

 > > one, and I found the Epson Stylus C44 or C64 able to do more
 > > there. How would the odds be that the C44 works as much as the
 > > C64? Does anyone know?
Have a look at this.  It's always sorted out my printer problems

The Epson C44 appears to be supported.


 

Wow, that makes 2 resources already! Thank you.
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Re: [newbie] Epson printer C44/C64

[Graham Watkins]

>>> > On Tuesday 30 December 2003 14:57, Paul wrote:
>>
 > > Hi everyone,
 > > My old printer is having problems. I am looking for a different
 > > one, and I found the Epson Stylus C44 or C64 able to do more
 > > than I need. I found the C64 as printing 'mostly' on
 > > www.linuxprinting.org, but the C44 (which is cheaper) is not
 > > there. How would the odds be that the C44 works as much as the
 > > C64? Does anyone know?
 > > I don't need to print much, so I would like to spend as little
 > > as possible on such a device.
 > >
 > > Thanks for any info,
 > > Paul
Have a look at this.  It's always sorted out my printer problems

The Epson C44 appears to be supported.



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Re: [newbie] Epson printer C44/C64

[Michael Holt]

On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 14:08, Anne Wilson wrote:

> Michael - have you tried the driver from 
> http://www.epsondevelopers.com/epijs.jsp ?
> 
> Anne

Hi Anne,
No, I hadn't, but just took a look.  It might be something worth
investigating further - I haven't had much extra time lately to mess
with things like that and it does seem a bit more involved however than
just using printerdrake+cups.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer C44/C64

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 30 December 2003 20:17, Michael Holt wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 07:17, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 30 December 2003 14:57, Paul wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > My old printer is having problems. I am looking for a different
> > > one, and I found the Epson Stylus C44 or C64 able to do more
> > > than I need. I found the C64 as printing 'mostly' on
> > > www.linuxprinting.org, but the C44 (which is cheaper) is not
> > > there. How would the odds be that the C44 works as much as the
> > > C64? Does anyone know?
> > > I don't need to print much, so I would like to spend as little
> > > as possible on such a device.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any info,
> > > Paul
>
> I have an Epson c64; I would not recommend it at this point for
> linux use (nor the c44).  They are supposed to have support with
> the latest unstable version of gimpprint, but you will have to jump
> through several hoops to get even usable output.  Epson does have
> great support normally; I would maybe try ebay and see if you can
> get a slightly older model.

Michael - have you tried the driver from 
http://www.epsondevelopers.com/epijs.jsp ?

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer C44/C64

[Michael Holt]

On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 07:17, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 December 2003 14:57, Paul wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > My old printer is having problems. I am looking for a different
> > one, and I found the Epson Stylus C44 or C64 able to do more than I
> > need. I found the C64 as printing 'mostly' on
> > www.linuxprinting.org, but the C44 (which is cheaper) is not there.
> > How would the odds be that the C44 works as much as the C64? Does
> > anyone know?
> > I don't need to print much, so I would like to spend as little as
> > possible on such a device.
> >
> > Thanks for any info,
> > Paul

I have an Epson c64; I would not recommend it at this point for linux
use (nor the c44).  They are supposed to have support with the latest
unstable version of gimpprint, but you will have to jump through several
hoops to get even usable output.  Epson does have great support
normally; I would maybe try ebay and see if you can get a slightly older
model.
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Re: [newbie] Epson printer C44/C64

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 30 December 2003 14:57, Paul wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> My old printer is having problems. I am looking for a different
> one, and I found the Epson Stylus C44 or C64 able to do more than I
> need. I found the C64 as printing 'mostly' on
> www.linuxprinting.org, but the C44 (which is cheaper) is not there.
> How would the odds be that the C44 works as much as the C64? Does
> anyone know?
> I don't need to print much, so I would like to spend as little as
> possible on such a device.
>
> Thanks for any info,
> Paul

Epson are usually pretty good with support.  See 
http://www.epsondevelopers.com/epijs.jsp

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[Linus Drouhard]

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 08:23, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 06:18:55PM -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > On Saturday 01 March 2003 02:20 pm, Technoslick wrote:
> > 
> > > Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software
> > > 'patch' to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is
> > > brand new? A friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get
> > > her own refils to work. This was in Windows, BTW.
> > >
> > > T
> > 
> > Hmm, hadn't ever heard that but I guess its possible. Of course, I don't use 
> > Windows on my main comp...
> > 
> 
> A month or two ago I bought a refill for the cartridges on an Epson 777i.
> It came with a floppy disk of software to install in WIndows to reset the
> chip so the printer would accept the refilled cartridge.
> 
> I returned the entir package because
>   (1) Rebooting to WIndows every time the printer runs out of ink
>   is not acceptable
>   (2) Without a floppy drive on my computer, installation was
>   a dubious prospect.
> 
> -- hendrik
> 
I bought one of those kits about a year ago for my Epson 777.  It works,
I don't know how, but it does.  I got the added *benefit* that after a
couple of refills, either my chips burned out, or the circuit in my
printer quit.  Anyway, I don't have to reset the chips any more. Just
fill and go.  By the way, the floppy disk doesn't boot you into
windows.  It's some sort of special executable that only resets the
chips.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[rluchor]

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 12:09, Todd Slater wrote: > Not if you cut it with vodka. However, it will scare the hell out of your 


> 
> It's funny that you should mention him, I had an appointment with him
> this morning in preparation for a colonoscopy.  I'll lay off the ink for
> a few days before the procedure.
> 
> Rich
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Careful Rich--a friend went in last week for a colonoscopy and shortly
thereafter came down with a terrible fever and intestinal distress. He
returned home Monday after emergency surgery to remove 12 inches of his
perforated large intestine. It was nearly fatal.

So, good luck with that!

Thanks Todd.  This Dr. did a colonoscopy on me 2 1/2 years ago and I know he's good, but I guess that sort of thing can happen anytime.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[rluchor]

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 09:23, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 06:18:55PM -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > On Saturday 01 March 2003 02:20 pm, Technoslick wrote:
> > 
> > > Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software
> > > 'patch' to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is
> > > brand new? A friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get
> > > her own refils to work. This was in Windows, BTW.
> > >
> > > T
> > 
> > Hmm, hadn't ever heard that but I guess its possible. Of course, I don't use 
> > Windows on my main comp...
> > 
> 
> A month or two ago I bought a refill for the cartridges on an Epson 777i.
> It came with a floppy disk of software to install in WIndows to reset the
> chip so the printer would accept the refilled cartridge.
> 
> I returned the entir package because
>   (1) Rebooting to WIndows every time the printer runs out of ink
>   is not acceptable
>   (2) Without a floppy drive on my computer, installation was
>   a dubious prospect.
After the previous discussions about which printers have chips in their
cartridges I checked the Epson C62 manual and it only has the usual
Caution about refilling the carts because of the quality problems that
could ensue.  It also warns against drinking the ink!  Has this been a
problem in the past? 

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:23 am, Hendrik Boom wrote:

> A month or two ago I bought a refill for the cartridges on an Epson 777i.
> It came with a floppy disk of software to install in WIndows to reset the
> chip so the printer would accept the refilled cartridge.
>
> I returned the entir package because
>   (1) Rebooting to WIndows every time the printer runs out of ink
>   is not acceptable
>   (2) Without a floppy drive on my computer, installation was
>   a dubious prospect.
>
> -- hendrik

I understand. I think (re)booting to Windows *anytime* is unacceptable!



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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[Hendrik Boom]

On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 06:18:55PM -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Saturday 01 March 2003 02:20 pm, Technoslick wrote:
> 
> > Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software
> > 'patch' to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is
> > brand new? A friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get
> > her own refils to work. This was in Windows, BTW.
> >
> > T
> 
> Hmm, hadn't ever heard that but I guess its possible. Of course, I don't use 
> Windows on my main comp...
> 

A month or two ago I bought a refill for the cartridges on an Epson 777i.
It came with a floppy disk of software to install in WIndows to reset the
chip so the printer would accept the refilled cartridge.

I returned the entir package because
(1) Rebooting to WIndows every time the printer runs out of ink
is not acceptable
(2) Without a floppy drive on my computer, installation was
a dubious prospect.

-- hendrik

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 02:29, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> 
> Hmm, probably wrong but I always thought the "C" was for color...

Maybe we're wrong and the "C" stands for CONTRAST - the black against
the white, perchance?

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Sunday 02 March 2003 09:06 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> You're probably right about the differences in markets.  My HP 930C
> (Hey, maybe the "C" stands for Chipped) is sitting in a box right now
> because it's too much of a hassle to deal with the cartridges.  The HP
> carts are too expensive and the recycled carts are not all that
> reliable.  I tried refilling my own carts, but that's also a hassle.
> The book that came with the refill inks was were I got the idea for
> rotating three cartridges.
>
> Rich

Hmm, probably wrong but I always thought the "C" was for color...

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[rluchor]

On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 05:20, Anne Wilson wrote:

>
> That's what I thought you meant, but now I'm confused!  HP printer carts
> are the ones chipped here in the states and I'm not aware of any Epson
> carts being chipped, and I own 4 of them at the moment.  Can anyone else
> step in here and help me out?
>
Must be a difference in international markets.  I have a price list in front 
of me that says

stylus 680 black, not chipped for use with ILRS
stylus 680 colour, not chipped for use with ILRS
stylus 680 black, chipped
stylus 680, colour chipped

and so on...

There are also Canon, HP, Lexmark and Olivetti carts listed, but none of those 
brands show any mention of 'chipped'

You're probably right about the differences in markets.  My HP 930C (Hey, maybe the "C" stands for Chipped) is sitting in a box right now because it's too much of a hassle to deal with the cartridges.  The HP carts are too expensive and the recycled carts are not all that reliable.  I tried refilling my own carts, but that's also a hassle.  The book that came with the refill inks was were I got the idea for rotating three cartridges.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[Anne Wilson]

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 11:23 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are
> > > > available for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are
> > > > 'guaranteed chipped'. I've also read recently that the EU are trying
> > > > to outlaw the practise of chipping cartridges, because it makes
> > > > recycling difficult.
> > >
> > > Exactly what do you mean by "chipped"?
> >
> > I don't know anything about the technology, other than people selling
> > them told me that it is the way that Epson machines are rigged to
> > recognise their own cartridges.
>
> That's what I thought you meant, but now I'm confused!  HP printer carts
> are the ones chipped here in the states and I'm not aware of any Epson
> carts being chipped, and I own 4 of them at the moment.  Can anyone else
> step in here and help me out?
>
Must be a difference in international markets.  I have a price list in front 
of me that says

stylus 680 black, not chipped for use with ILRS
stylus 680 colour, not chipped for use with ILRS
stylus 680 black, chipped
stylus 680, colour chipped

and so on...

There are also Canon, HP, Lexmark and Olivetti carts listed, but none of those 
brands show any mention of 'chipped'

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[rluchor]

On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 17:08, Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:52 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:38, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > This is true for HP printers.  The usual way is to have a rotation of 3
> > > carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the
> > > last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it
> > > back in the printer.  Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP
> > > printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too
> > > expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.
> >
> > Not true.  I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages.  And
> > I've taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that
> > the printer wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a
> > replacement. No problems at all.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "not true", but it sounds as if you have
> an older HP printer.
>
Deskjet 990Cxi - not old by any stretch of imagination.

> > > I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find
> > > for my Epson printers without a problem.  The C62 cart light is
> > > flashing and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement
> > > works very soon!
> >
> > At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are
> > available for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are
> > 'guaranteed chipped'. I've also read recently that the EU are trying to
> > outlaw the practise of chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling
> > difficult.
>
> Exactly what do you mean by "chipped"?

I don't know anything about the technology, other than people selling them 
told me that it is the way that Epson machines are rigged to recognise their 
own cartridges.

That's what I thought you meant, but now I'm confused!  HP printer carts are the ones chipped here in the states and I'm not aware of any Epson  carts being chipped, and I own 4 of them at the moment.  Can anyone else step in here and help me out?

Rich



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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Saturday 01 March 2003 02:20 pm, Technoslick wrote:

> Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software
> 'patch' to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is
> brand new? A friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get
> her own refils to work. This was in Windows, BTW.
>
> T

Hmm, hadn't ever heard that but I guess its possible. Of course, I don't use 
Windows on my main comp...

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[Anne Wilson]

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:52 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:38, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > This is true for HP printers.  The usual way is to have a rotation of 3
> > > carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the
> > > last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it
> > > back in the printer.  Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP
> > > printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too
> > > expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.
> >
> > Not true.  I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages.  And
> > I've taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that
> > the printer wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a
> > replacement. No problems at all.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "not true", but it sounds as if you have
> an older HP printer.
>
Deskjet 990Cxi - not old by any stretch of imagination.

> > > I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find
> > > for my Epson printers without a problem.  The C62 cart light is
> > > flashing and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement
> > > works very soon!
> >
> > At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are
> > available for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are
> > 'guaranteed chipped'. I've also read recently that the EU are trying to
> > outlaw the practise of chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling
> > difficult.
>
> Exactly what do you mean by "chipped"?

I don't know anything about the technology, other than people selling them 
told me that it is the way that Epson machines are rigged to recognise their 
own cartridges.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[rluchor]

On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:38, Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This is true for HP printers.  The usual way is to have a rotation of 3
> carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the
> last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it
> back in the printer.  Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP
> printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too
> expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.
>
Not true.  I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages.  And I've 
taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that the printer 
wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a replacement.  
No problems at all.


I'm not sure what you mean by "not true", but it sounds as if you have an older HP printer.


> I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find
> for my Epson printers without a problem.  The C62 cart light is flashing
> and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement works
> very soon!

At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are available 
for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are 'guaranteed chipped'.  
I've also read recently that the EU are trying to outlaw the practise of 
chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling difficult.

Exactly what do you mean by "chipped"?

Rich




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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[Anne Wilson]

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This is true for HP printers.  The usual way is to have a rotation of 3
> carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the
> last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it
> back in the printer.  Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP
> printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too
> expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.
>
Not true.  I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages.  And I've 
taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that the printer 
wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a replacement.  
No problems at all.

> I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find
> for my Epson printers without a problem.  The C62 cart light is flashing
> and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement works
> very soon!

At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are available 
for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are 'guaranteed chipped'.  
I've also read recently that the EU are trying to outlaw the practise of 
chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling difficult.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[rluchor]

On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 14:20, Technoslick wrote:

On Saturday 01 March 2003 01:39 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Okay, about a week ago I posted a message about problems I was having with
> my Epson C62 printer.

Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software 'patch' 
to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is brand new? A 
friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get her own refils 
to work. This was in Windows, BTW.

This is true for HP printers.  The usual way is to have a rotation of 3 carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it back in the printer.  Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.

I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find for my Epson printers without a problem.  The C62 cart light is flashing and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement works very soon!

Rich

 



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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

[Technoslick]

On Saturday 01 March 2003 01:39 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Okay, about a week ago I posted a message about problems I was having with
> my Epson C62 printer.

Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software 'patch' 
to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is brand new? A 
friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get her own refils 
to work. This was in Windows, BTW.

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Re: [newbie] Epson Printer

[Angus Auld]

 
> I'm in the market for a new printer and am considering either the Epson
> C60 or C80.
> 
> I'm running 8.2 and will be connecting parallel.  Are there any known
> problems connecting either of these printers to Mandrake 8.2?
> 
> Rich 
---
Hi Rich, I have an Epson printer, a 480SXU, and just got it working under Mdk 9.0.

You can check out printers for compatibility and get all kinds of great info here: 
http://www.linuxprinting.org

I checked out the C60 and C80, and they both are listed as being perfectly compatible 
w/Linux. :-)
Epson seems to be very Linux-friendly.

All the best!

--Angus

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Re: [newbie] Epson Printer ~ Which one?

[Carlos Arigós]

El Sábado 08 Diciembre 2001 08:46, escribió:
> Hi there all,
>
> I just need a little advice on a new printer. I currently have a HP
> printer, but due to it's age the quality sucks :-/ Bacause of this I want
> now to buy an Epson printer (a friend of mine has one) as the quality is
> great :-)
>
> What epson printers are supported under lpd? I still don't like the idea of
> Cups though, as so far it has only caused me head-aches. Could you guys
> maybe suggest a certain model is you have any experience with that
> particular printer under linux / mandrake?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Ralph

Stylus Photo 700 (CUPS) do a great job (if you need photo quality).

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RE: [newbie] Epson Printer

[Jose M. Sanchez]

|-Original Message-
|From: Sevatio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
|Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:40 AM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: RE: [newbie] Epson Printer
|
|
|I'm going to have to write a nasty email to Epson for this chip B.S.
|
|Jose, since you're knowledgeable in this area, I've got two 
|questions for 
|your wise self.  I just learned about this Epson scam two days 
|ago after 
|my 777 ran out of ink.  Prior to that, I had no idea such anti-refill 
|'technology' existed.  >:-(  
|
|1: When you use a good cartridge to reset the printer, doesn't 
|that cause 
|the cartridge seals to be punctured?  
|
---

Yes, so normally I wait until I have collected a couple of empty
cartridges, then when I go to insert a new cartridge, I "reset" the old
ones, and restore the new cartridge into the printer when I am done.

BTW: I talked to someone at the web page you posted.

Their software attempts to reset the chips directly through a cleaver
technique...

---

|2: Is this enough to warrant starting a new thread to would 
|warn everyone 
|on the list to not buy printers with the anti-refill chips?
|

The printer manufacturers claim that refills utilize sub standard
equipment, etc.

I've worked with many pro printing houses who would take great issue
with the claims of the big companies. Photographic reviews bear out the
complaints that it's the big companies (such as Epson) who are resorting
to sub standard inks to lower costs, etc.

As such I personally abhor printers without either VERY deep wells, or
the ability to be refilled, as it's the end user who is getting taken.

I'll stay away from any ink based printer which cannot be refilled,
UNLESS the refills are so cheap that there is no point.

I'd doubt that I'd even bother if Epson were selling the cartridges for
11.00/each (which they can afford to do given their actual 2-3.00
manufacturing cost)

-JMS




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RE: [newbie] Epson Printer

[Sevatio]

I'm going to have to write a nasty email to Epson for this chip B.S.

Jose, since you're knowledgeable in this area, I've got two questions for 
your wise self.  I just learned about this Epson scam two days ago after 
my 777 ran out of ink.  Prior to that, I had no idea such anti-refill 
'technology' existed.  >:-(  

1: When you use a good cartridge to reset the printer, doesn't that cause 
the cartridge seals to be punctured?  

2: Is this enough to warrant starting a new thread to would warn everyone 
on the list to not buy printers with the anti-refill chips?

Sevatio


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 10/23/01, 7:47:52 PM, "Jose M. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
regarding RE: [newbie] Epson Printer:


> I do this all the time with a more expensive 11x17" 1270 Epson Photo
> printer.

> The Epson cartridges are nothing more than ink wells. So as long as you
> are purchasing the proper ink, there is little difference between an
> Epson cartridge and a refill.

> With the 1270 I discovered (by myself thank you) the reset trick. You
> put in a full cartridge, then let the printer park the head. With the
> printer ON you unlatch the head park and move the cartridge out to the
> unloading zone.

> You then insert a cartridge that you will refill (I do about 6
> cartridges at a time), to reset it's chip. Then you press the load
> button. Bingo, reset cartridge.

> This only takes a second to do.

> The re-inking kits normally come with everything you need. Normally a
> syringe for each color, tape "covers" for the nipples and tape for the
> holes you punch, plus maybe a cleaner.

> I've already saved over $500.00 on cartridges and have been VERY pleased
> with the results.

> Epson front loads their cartridge prices, and uses the printers as loss
> leaders.

> I stumbled upon the 1270 because I was purposely looking for a printer I
> could refill (the Photo12xx series) but was disappointed when I
> discovered that the one I actually got (the 1270) had a refill
> protection system.

> Thankfully I got around it.

> Once news of the chip reset techniques made the rounds on the internet,
> Epson redesigned the printer into the 1280 series... ( Thanks again
> @#$@#! Epson! ) so the above technique could not be used.

> It is likely that the floppy included in the kit does nothing more than
> move the head over so that you can change the cartridges. Exchanging
> cartridges while the printer is on seems to reset the subsequently
> inserted cartridge.

> While these kits are also frequently over priced, at least they will get
> you started. Afterwards you'll find that all you need to do is purchase
> the inks and keep at least once cartridge around to reset the others.

> Next you'll be hunting for archival inks and cheaper paper sources...

> Good luck!

> -JMS


> |-Original Message-
> |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Linus Drouhard
> |Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 10:12 PM
> |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |Subject: [newbie] Epson Printer
> |
> |
> |Hi everyone.,
> | I recently purchased an Epson 777 printer based largely
> |on recommendations
> |from this forum.  I like the printer, but do not like the cost of the
> |replacement cartridges.
> |
> | Does anyone have any experience with the Jet-Master
> |refills and "chip
> |resetter"?
> |
> |http://www.jet-master.com/epson_inkjet_777.htm
> |
> |The claim to have software on a floppy to reset the cartridges
> |to allow
> |unlimited refilling.  I'm interested but wouldn't want to
> |spend the $65 and
> |get nothing for it.
> |
> |Thanks for all of your input and great advice.
> |
> |-Linus
> |
> |



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