Re: [newbie] Get Your License Now!
On Monday 01 March 2004 07:51 am, JoeHill wrote: > Actually, that brings up a good point. A lot of 'appliances' use embedded > Linux as their 'OS', most notably those firewall/router doodads. Most > people would not even be *aware* that the device they are using is based on > Linux, and I'd seriously doubt that those devices are based on pre-2.4 > kernels. IIRC, SCO did cover this already and suggested some type of micro price for embedded devices. Something along the line of $36 per device or to that effect. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Get Your License Now!
Oh no Joe, you have just gave sco another false source of revenue. www.scowantyoutolicenseyourtoaster.com Look the site is up already. lol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JoeHill Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 12:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Get Your License Now! On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:34:58 -0600 jimdawson disseminated the following: > From what I've seen of the SCO license, it's so vague that it appears > that anyone who uses almost any type of computing equipment would need > to purchase a license. > > How much for a license for my microwave oven? Actually, that brings up a good point. A lot of 'appliances' use embedded Linux as their 'OS', most notably those firewall/router doodads. Most people would not even be *aware* that the device they are using is based on Linux, and I'd seriously doubt that those devices are based on pre-2.4 kernels. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 07:47:03 up 24 days, 19:31, 5 users, load average: 0.03, 0.06, 0.01 +++ Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 +++ "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God." -- Jesus Christ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the postmaster immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Get Your License Now!
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:34:58 -0600 jimdawson disseminated the following: > From what I've seen of the SCO license, it's so vague that it appears > that anyone who uses almost any type of computing equipment would need > to purchase a license. > > How much for a license for my microwave oven? Actually, that brings up a good point. A lot of 'appliances' use embedded Linux as their 'OS', most notably those firewall/router doodads. Most people would not even be *aware* that the device they are using is based on Linux, and I'd seriously doubt that those devices are based on pre-2.4 kernels. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 07:47:03 up 24 days, 19:31, 5 users, load average: 0.03, 0.06, 0.01 +++ Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 +++ "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God." -- Jesus Christ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Get Your License Now!
On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 13:32, Margot wrote: > I assume that once you have paid for the licence they will *send* > you the binaries - for that price, I expect them to be hand > delivered to my door, on a velvet cushion! > The extra cost is to pay for the lawyers to explain to you how SCO can sell you such a license without violating the GPL. What? You haven't yet proved that the GPL is invalid in a court of law? I guess I don't need your license then... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Get Your License Now!
On Saturday 28 February 2004 02:32 pm, Margot wrote: > I assume that once you have paid for the licence they will *send* > you the binaries - for that price, I expect them to be hand > delivered to my door, on a velvet cushion! When you pay the mob protection, they don't actually provide you with a service, they simply "don't" provide you with a particular service. If you want really good reading, read through the terms of the license. This is one of the few cases that I know of where buying a license actually puts you in a worse legal position than if didn't. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Get Your License Now!
JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:00:37 -0500 Lee Wiggers disseminated the following: SCO IP Paid Up License - 1-CPU - $699.00 SCO IP Paid Up License - 2 CPU - $1,149.00 SCO IP Paid Up License - 4-CPU - $2,499.00 So.one box with 2 cpus would be? I'm so confused I don't know which to buy. Which one did you get, Joe? I couldn't figure it out. I'm not sure if even buying a license will help me, since it allows me to only use the 'binaries', not the source. Since I have to have the source to install drivers, how the heck do I comply? And which bits of code need to be licensed? The whole kernel, or just the parts that they claim were derived from their IP? As someone on Slashdot pointed out: "...their "Linux license FAQ" does make it clear that their IP license only entitles you to use Linux binaries, not "their" Linux source. Since they still refuse to identify what Linux source they "own", it's unclear how you're supposed to stick to that part of the license, or indeed how you're supposed to get Linux binaries in the first place. The whole thing is a bit weird." I assume that once you have paid for the licence they will *send* you the binaries - for that price, I expect them to be hand delivered to my door, on a velvet cushion! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Get Your License Now!
I look like an UNIX user!!! Shall I pay a license for that and where?? mike --- Lanman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On February 28, 2004 09:00 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: > > The hell with it. I say kill 'em all and let God > sort them out! > -- > Lanman > Registered Linux user #190712 > Running Mandrake 10.0 RC1 > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Get Your License Now!
On Saturday 28 February 2004 08:03 am, JoeHill wrote: > Finally, SCO has made it easy for us Linux users to be > all nice and legal, since we are of course using their > intellectual property, which they've shown...in... > > Well, never mind that, get your license here: > > http://www.thescogroup.com/scosource/linuxlicense.html > > Of course, be *very careful* not to enter any *wrong > info*, like made up names and accounts, and don't do it > multiple times, because if everybody did that... ;-) We talked about this in my Linux + class the other day. Me being a smart ass hit the table and said "Darn! That's what I forgot to do today!" It made my whole class laugh so I guess it was good the way I said it. -- __ We Are 138 http://www.suse.com http://www.slackware.org http://www.bsd.org http://www.daemonnews.org/ http://www.cannibalholocaust.net http://www.misfits.com http://www.onethirtyeight.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Get Your License Now!
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:13:26 -0800 aron Smith disseminated the following: > how much for a Beowulf cluster? ROFL! -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 12:00:31 up 22 days, 23:44, 5 users, load average: 1.74, 1.39, 1.29 +++ Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 +++ "It was a crazed and futile effort to somehow explain the extremely twisted nature of my relationship with God, Nixon and the National Football League.''-- Hunter S. Thompson, explaining why he screamed scripture from the 20th-floor balcony of the Houston Hyatt on the morning of Super Bowl VIII Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Get Your License Now!
On Saturday 28 February 2004 06:00 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: > On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:03:24 -0500 > > JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Finally, SCO has made it easy for us Linux users to be all nice > > and legal, since we are of course using their intellectual > > property, which they've shown...in... > > > > Well, never mind that, get your license here: > > > > http://www.thescogroup.com/scosource/linuxlicense.html > > > > Of course, be *very careful* not to enter any *wrong info*, like > > made up names and accounts, and don't do it multiple times, > > because if everybody did that...;-) > > > > -- > > JoeHill > > Registered Linux user #282046 > > Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org > > +++ > > 07:58:42 up 22 days, 19:43, 6 users, load average: 1.38, 1.39, > > 1.30+++ > > Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 > > +++ > > Rule #2 (John Gilmore): "The Net interprets censorship as damage > > and routes around it." > > SCO IP Paid Up License - 1-CPU - $699.00 > SCO IP Paid Up License - 2 CPU - $1,149.00 > SCO IP Paid Up License - 4-CPU - $2,499.00 > > So.one box with 2 cpus would be? > > I'm so confused I don't know which to buy. > > Which one did you get, Joe? how much for a Beowulf cluster? > > Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Get Your License Now!
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:03:24 -0500 JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Finally, SCO has made it easy for us Linux users to be all nice > and legal, since we are of course using their intellectual > property, which they've shown...in... > > Well, never mind that, get your license here: > > http://www.thescogroup.com/scosource/linuxlicense.html > > Of course, be *very careful* not to enter any *wrong info*, like > made up names and accounts, and don't do it multiple times, > because if everybody did that...;-) > > -- > JoeHill > Registered Linux user #282046 > Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org > +++ > 07:58:42 up 22 days, 19:43, 6 users, load average: 1.38, 1.39, > 1.30+++ > Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 > +++ > Rule #2 (John Gilmore): "The Net interprets censorship as damage > and routes around it." > > SCO IP Paid Up License - 1-CPU - $699.00 SCO IP Paid Up License - 2 CPU - $1,149.00 SCO IP Paid Up License - 4-CPU - $2,499.00 So.one box with 2 cpus would be? I'm so confused I don't know which to buy. Which one did you get, Joe? Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
