RE: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way

2004-02-20 Thread Steve Kaufman






OK Here is what I have done... I'll see what happens...
 
Last night I rn memtest86 for 11 hours without a problem.
 
I then read a bunch of email from you great people that sent suggestions.
 
I changed these in LILO.conf but did not reboot.
 
I then ran the  BurnK7 for 10 minutes no problem 
then ran burnBX -L for 10 minutes no problem.
Then ran MPRIME for 1 hour no problem.
Then I ran all three at the same time for a couple of hours and searched the web for the nvidia drivers. The instructions to load their latest drivers looked a little complex for this newbie so I have not done anything with that. Although I did find what I think is an RPM of the driver. Have to go back and read more. 
I then came back to windows so I could reply to these emails and I'm going back to reboot and see if the additions to lilo made the difference.
 
More updates later
 
THANKS everyone.
 
Steve
Linux user number 344404
---Original Message---
 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 02/20/04 07:15:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way
 

Steve,
 
add noapic nolapic to your append line of your kernel. I have the same motherboard and have had major problems, I thought it was the sata drives I was using but it was adding acpi=off noapic nolapic that fixed it.
 
Tony.

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Steve KaufmanSent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:44 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way




 Below is my original post I had posted back to the list that it was fixed but it is not and I don't have any idea where to go. I would really like to use Linux but if I can't keep it up (alright no one say it is a personal problem) IT DOESN'T DO ME MUCH GOOD.    
 
What I have done was to add the   acpi=off  to the append line it was acpi=ht then I rebooted again after doing /sbin/lilo/. The machine then stayed up for over 18hrs but I only had the desktop open with no application running. I am going to try that again and see if it stays up. It's kind of hard to just let it sit there and not do anything. It seems like it might not be power management because it has locked up while I was using it and not just after setting doing nothing but last night at was after I left the room to eat dinner. 
 
I have also checked all logs from Configure you machine/logs in MCC and there is absolutly nothing that would indicate a problem.
 
I also posted a ps -A and someone verified that there were no ACPI processes running.
 
Don't know where else to look.
 
Steve
Linux user number 344404
---Original Message---
 

From: Steve Kaufman
Date: 02/17/04 15:46:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PC locks up solid. Power off buton won't even work
 
Help please,
 
This is going to be a real challange. I have installed MD9,2 a couple of
weeks ago. Some of the people on this list have been very wonderfull in
helping me to overcome some very simple but perplexing problems for a newbie
 
 
This problem does not happen in windows. I can leave my machine up for days
with no problems.
 
Here's todays problem and it is a big one that if I can't fix I may have to
stop using LInux. Intermittently (almost every day) if I leave my pc sit
inactive for some period of time it will just lockup to where I can not even
power off the pc with the power button. I have to turn off at the surge
protector.
 
I have tried to isolate this to an application and have been unable to. The
only time it does not seem to happen is when I have no applications open on
my desktop. As long as the cursor is resting on the desktop not in an
application then the pc does not seem to lock up.
 
The only application that I have installed other than the defaut ones that
come with the 9.2 install is Thunderbird but I have also tried not running
Thunderbird after a boot to see what would happen and it still locks up. The
only applications I have really been using are. MCC functions for updates
and trying to make sure my hardware is configured correctly. I read email
both with Thunderbird and Kmail. Web browsing with Konqour.
 
What I have done to attempt to isolate the problem.
- I have disabled all power management in the bios and in MD (from MCC)
- I have tried leaving various applications open or closed and I can not
find a pattern.
- I have installed all updates.
- I have looked in logs but don't see anything when it hangs. The logs I
look at are the ones which can be seen in MCC.
 
My hardware:
*  System Summary  *
  
   Motherboard - ASUS - A7N8X - Delux version 2.0
Processor:  AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ 2.0 GHz (2500+ overclocked I
have run in at 2500 and still happens.
I have had it at 2700 in

RE: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way

2004-02-20 Thread Tony S. Sykes


Steve,
 
add 
noapic nolapic to your append line of your kernel. I have the same motherboard 
and have had major problems, I thought it was the sata drives I was using but it 
was adding acpi=off noapic nolapic that fixed it.
 
Tony.

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of Steve KaufmanSent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:44 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] PC 
  locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this 
  way
  

  
 Below is my original post I had posted back to the list that 
it was fixed but it is not and I don't have any idea where to go. I 
would really like to use Linux but if I can't keep it up (alright no one 
say it is a personal problem) IT DOESN'T DO ME MUCH 
GOOD.    
 
What I have done was to add the   acpi=off  to the 
append line it was acpi=ht then I rebooted again after doing 
/sbin/lilo/. The machine then stayed up for over 18hrs but I only had 
the desktop open with no application running. I am going to try that 
again and see if it stays up. It's kind of hard to just let it sit there 
and not do anything. It seems like it might not be power management 
because it has locked up while I was using it and not just after setting 
doing nothing but last night at was after I left the room to eat dinner. 

 
I have also checked all logs from Configure you machine/logs in MCC 
and there is absolutly nothing that would indicate a problem.
 
I also posted a ps -A and someone verified that there were no ACPI 
processes running.
 
Don't know where else to look.
 
Steve
Linux user number 344404
---Original 
Message---
 

From: Steve Kaufman
Date: 02/17/04 
15:46:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PC locks up 
solid. Power off buton won't even work
 
Help please,
 
This is going to be a real challange. I have installed MD9,2 a 
couple of
weeks ago. Some of the people on this list have been very 
wonderfull in
helping me to overcome some very simple but perplexing problems for 
a newbie
 
 
This problem does not happen in windows. I can leave my machine up 
for days
with no problems.
 
Here's todays problem and it is a big one that if I can't fix I may 
have to
stop using LInux. Intermittently (almost every day) if I leave my 
pc sit
inactive for some period of time it will just lockup to where I can 
not even
power off the pc with the power button. I have to turn off at the 
surge
protector.
 
I have tried to isolate this to an application and have been unable 
to. The
only time it does not seem to happen is when I have no applications 
open on
my desktop. As long as the cursor is resting on the desktop not in 
an
application then the pc does not seem to lock up.
 
The only application that I have installed other than the defaut 
ones that
come with the 9.2 install is Thunderbird but I have also tried not 
running
Thunderbird after a boot to see what would happen and it still 
locks up. The
only applications I have really been using are. MCC functions for 
updates
and trying to make sure my hardware is configured correctly. I read 
email
both with Thunderbird and Kmail. Web browsing with Konqour.
 
What I have done to attempt to isolate the problem.
- I have disabled all power management in the bios and in MD (from 
MCC)
- I have tried leaving various applications open or closed and I 
can not
find a pattern.
- I have installed all updates.
- I have looked in logs but don't see anything when it hangs. The 
logs I
look at are the ones which can be seen in MCC.
 
My hardware:
*  System 
Summary  *
  
   Motherboard - ASUS - A7N8X - Delux version 2.0
Processor:  AMD 
Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ 2.0 GHz (2500+ overclocked I
have run in at 2500 and still happens.
I 
have had it at 2700 in windows forever and
no problems)
BIOS:   
Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG Phoenix-Award BIOS v6
00PG, 05/14/03
Bus 
Type:   PCI, 
ISA, USB
Ports:  1 
Parallel, 2 Serial
Memory: 

Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way

2004-02-19 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 19 February 2004 08:02 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:
->On Thursday 19 February 2004 05:41 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
->> On Thursday 19 Feb 2004 21:25, Steve Kaufman wrote:
->> >  Thanks Derek. I hope I'm always open to learning new
->> > things. Now Iall I have to do is figure out how to load and
->> > run the RPM. Have to switch back to Linux and try.
->>
->> It's on your install CD. Just search for it using the Mandrake
->> Software Installer. Running it is just a matter of selecting
->> memtest in the Lilo boot screen
->>
->> derek
->
->Derek,
->Got it. Loaded it. ran it for 3+ hours without a blip. I will let
->it run overnight and see what happens.

I think you should do a couple of other hardware torture tests as well, like 
mprime and cpuburn.

They will stress out various aspects of your system. "cpuburn" was how I first 
figured out I had a heating problem on my setup.

Tom Brinkman helped me with this immensely.

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Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way

2004-02-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 19 February 2004 08:11 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:
> Greg, will check the nvida site. for the motherboard correct not
> the vid card.

Yes, although I believe there is an integrated installer that has the video 
driver and the motherboard drivers.
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Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way

2004-02-19 Thread Lanman
On February 19, 2004 08:07 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:
> On Thursday 19 February 2004 04:21 pm, Lanman wrote:
> > On February 19, 2004 03:44 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:
> >
> > Steve; have you looked at the drivers you're using for the
> > NVidia card? Other than that, I'd definitely look at your ram
> > for the problem. Try removing the ram one stick at a time if
> > possible and trying the system that way. If it beahves itself
> > after one piece is removed, you've either got a bad stick or a
> > bad ram slot.
>
> lanman
>
> Have not looked at drivers what shows as an NVIDA card is really
> a Leadtek Winfast a340 and they don't seem to have a linux
> driver for MD but the have one for free bsd, IA32, AMD64, IA64.
>
> Will the fre BSD one work?
>
> As I posted to derek ran the memtest for 3+ hours with no
> problem. I have only one stick of memory.
>
> Thanks
> Steve

OK, Steve - By the numbers - here we go ! The one called IA32 IS for your 
system ! It stands for "Intel Architecture 32 Bit", and that's you and me and 
everyone with a conventional PC. All those with Opterons, AMD 64's, and 
FX-51's need not apply!

Remember this  IA32 = x86, OK? There's going to be a written test on this 
later, so study hard ! Grin! And NO - It will not be multiple choice ! LOL
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Registered Linux user #190712

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the window into the eye of a 
giant penguin!"

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Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way

2004-02-19 Thread Steve Kaufman
On Thursday 19 February 2004 04:23 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Thursday 19 February 2004 03:44 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:
> >  Below is my original post I had posted back to the list
> > that it was fixed but it is not and I don't have any idea
> > where to go. I would really like to use Linux but if I can't
> > keep it up (alright no one say it is a personal problem) IT
> > DOESN'T DO ME MUCH GOOD.
>
> I see you have an nforce2 board.  Have you tried installing
> the drivers available from the nvidia website.  Also, you
> don't say what your vid card is.  This definitely sounds like
> a hardware problem though.
>
> > What I have done was to add the   acpi=off  to the append
> > line it was acpi=ht then I rebooted again after doing
> > /sbin/lilo/. The machine then stayed up for over 18hrs but I
> > only had the desktop open with no application running. I am
> > going to try that again and see if it stays up. It's kind of
> > hard to just let it sit there and not do anything. It seems
> > like it might not be power management because it has locked
> > up while I was using it and not just after setting doing
> > nothing but last night at was after I left the room to eat
> > dinner.
> >
> > I have also checked all logs from Configure you machine/logs
> > in MCC and there is absolutly nothing that would indicate a
> > problem.
> >
> > I also posted a ps -A and someone verified that there were
> > no ACPI processes running.
> >
> > Don't know where else to look.
> >
> > Steve
> > Linux user number 344404
> > ---Original Message---
> >
> > From: Steve Kaufman
> > Date: 02/17/04 15:46:20
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: PC locks up solid. Power off buton won't even work
> >
> > Help please,
> >
> > This is going to be a real challange. I have installed MD9,2
> > a couple of weeks ago. Some of the people on this list have
> > been very wonderfull in helping me to overcome some very
> > simple but perplexing problems for a newbie
> >



 > *  System Summary  *
> >   
> >Motherboard - ASUS - A7N8X - Delux version 2.0
> > Processor:  AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ 2.0 GHz
> > (2500+ overclocked I have run in at 2500 and still happens.
> > I have had it at 2700 in
> > windows forever and no problems)
> > BIOS:   Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
> > Phoenix-Award BIOS v6 00PG, 05/14/03
> > Bus Type:   PCI, ISA, USB
> > Ports:  1 Parallel, 2 Serial
> > Memory: 512 MB  (42% Utilized) GEIL 400MHZ
> > PC3200 Floppy Disks:   1.44 MB
> > Hard Disks: 16.95 GB, 16.95 GB, 114.50 GB, 12.66
> > GB Multimedia: Sound, CD-ROM
> > Video:  800 x 600 in 64K Colors, NVIDIA
> > GeForce FX 5200 Ver. 6.14 128meg -

This is really a leadtek A340 card. 

> > LAN  3Com 3C920B-EMB Integrated Fast Ethernet
> > Controller NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Controller <

> > Any help would be appreciated.
> > What info would be helpful from LINUX?
> >
> >
> > Steve
> > Linux user number 344404

Greg, will check the nvida site. for the motherboard correct not 
the vid card. 


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Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way

2004-02-19 Thread Steve Kaufman
On Thursday 19 February 2004 04:21 pm, Lanman wrote:
> On February 19, 2004 03:44 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:
>
> Steve; have you looked at the drivers you're using for the
> NVidia card? Other than that, I'd definitely look at your ram
> for the problem. Try removing the ram one stick at a time if
> possible and trying the system that way. If it beahves itself
> after one piece is removed, you've either got a bad stick or a
> bad ram slot.

lanman

Have not looked at drivers what shows as an NVIDA card is really 
a Leadtek Winfast a340 and they don't seem to have a linux 
driver for MD but the have one for free bsd, IA32, AMD64, IA64.

Will the fre BSD one work?

As I posted to derek ran the memtest for 3+ hours with no 
problem. I have only one stick of memory.

Thanks
Steve


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Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way

2004-02-19 Thread Steve Kaufman
On Thursday 19 February 2004 05:41 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Thursday 19 Feb 2004 21:25, Steve Kaufman wrote:
> >  Thanks Derek. I hope I'm always open to learning new
> > things. Now Iall I have to do is figure out how to load and
> > run the RPM. Have to switch back to Linux and try.
>
> It's on your install CD. Just search for it using the Mandrake
> Software Installer. Running it is just a matter of selecting
> memtest in the Lilo boot screen
>
> derek

Derek,
Got it. Loaded it. ran it for 3+ hours without a blip. I will let 
it run overnight and see what happens.


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Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way

2004-02-19 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 19 Feb 2004 21:25, Steve Kaufman wrote:
>  Thanks Derek. I hope I'm always open to learning new things. Now Iall I
> have to do is figure out how to load and run the RPM. Have to switch back
> to Linux and try.
>

It's on your install CD. Just search for it using the Mandrake Software 
Installer. Running it is just a matter of selecting memtest in the Lilo boot 
screen

derek



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Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way

2004-02-19 Thread Steve Kaufman






 Thanks Derek. I hope I'm always open to learning new things. Now Iall I have to do is figure out how to load and run the RPM. Have to switch back to Linux and try. 
 
Steve
Linux user number 344404
---Original Message---
 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 02/19/04 16:11:18
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way
 
 
Steve
Whenever anyone complains of lockups like you describe, the most common cause
has usually been found to be memory.
 
Now I know you will say it works perfectly in Windows, but the fact is Linux
uses memory differently to Windows. Whereas Windows only uses as much memory
as the active applications need, Linux will use *all* the available memory as
a hard disc cache, so problems in the upper reaches of memory will show up
much more on Linux.
 
If you install the memtest86 RPM you will find on rebooting there is a new
entry in your Lilo boot screen. Select it, and it will immediately run a
continuous memory test.
 
You should be able to run that test all night long without a single error.
Any failures, then start looking at your Bios settings.
 
 
HTH
 
derek
 
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Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way

2004-02-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 19 February 2004 03:44 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:
>  Below is my original post I had posted back to the list that it was fixed
> but it is not and I don't have any idea where to go. I would really like to
> use Linux but if I can't keep it up (alright no one say it is a personal
> problem) IT DOESN'T DO ME MUCH GOOD.
>
I see you have an nforce2 board.  Have you tried installing the drivers 
available from the nvidia website.  Also, you don't say what your vid card 
is.  This definitely sounds like a hardware problem though.

> What I have done was to add the   acpi=off  to the append line it was
> acpi=ht then I rebooted again after doing /sbin/lilo/. The machine then
> stayed up for over 18hrs but I only had the desktop open with no
> application running. I am going to try that again and see if it stays up.
> It's kind of hard to just let it sit there and not do anything. It seems
> like it might not be power management because it has locked up while I was
> using it and not just after setting doing nothing but last night at was
> after I left the room to eat dinner.
>
> I have also checked all logs from Configure you machine/logs in MCC and
> there is absolutly nothing that would indicate a problem.
>
> I also posted a ps -A and someone verified that there were no ACPI
> processes running.
>
> Don't know where else to look.
>
> Steve
> Linux user number 344404
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Steve Kaufman
> Date: 02/17/04 15:46:20
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: PC locks up solid. Power off buton won't even work
>
> Help please,
>
> This is going to be a real challange. I have installed MD9,2 a couple of
> weeks ago. Some of the people on this list have been very wonderfull in
> helping me to overcome some very simple but perplexing problems for a
> newbie
>
>
> This problem does not happen in windows. I can leave my machine up for days
> with no problems.
>
> Here's todays problem and it is a big one that if I can't fix I may have to
> stop using LInux. Intermittently (almost every day) if I leave my pc sit
> inactive for some period of time it will just lockup to where I can not
> even power off the pc with the power button. I have to turn off at the
> surge protector.
>
> I have tried to isolate this to an application and have been unable to. The
> only time it does not seem to happen is when I have no applications open on
> my desktop. As long as the cursor is resting on the desktop not in an
> application then the pc does not seem to lock up.
>
> The only application that I have installed other than the defaut ones that
> come with the 9.2 install is Thunderbird but I have also tried not running
> Thunderbird after a boot to see what would happen and it still locks up.
> The only applications I have really been using are. MCC functions for
> updates and trying to make sure my hardware is configured correctly. I read
> email both with Thunderbird and Kmail. Web browsing with Konqour.
>
> What I have done to attempt to isolate the problem.
> - I have disabled all power management in the bios and in MD (from MCC)
> - I have tried leaving various applications open or closed and I can not
> find a pattern.
> - I have installed all updates.
> - I have looked in logs but don't see anything when it hangs. The logs I
> look at are the ones which can be seen in MCC.
>
> My hardware:
> *  System Summary  *
>   
>Motherboard - ASUS - A7N8X - Delux version 2.0
> Processor:  AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ 2.0 GHz (2500+ overclocked
> I have run in at 2500 and still happens.
> I have had it at 2700 in windows forever
> and no problems)
> BIOS:   Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG Phoenix-Award BIOS v6
> 00PG, 05/14/03
> Bus Type:   PCI, ISA, USB
> Ports:  1 Parallel, 2 Serial
> Memory: 512 MB  (42% Utilized) GEIL 400MHZ PC3200
> Floppy Disks:   1.44 MB
> Hard Disks: 16.95 GB, 16.95 GB, 114.50 GB, 12.66 GB
> Multimedia: Sound, CD-ROM
> Video:  800 x 600 in 64K Colors, NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
> Ver. 6.14 128meg
> LAN  3Com 3C920B-EMB Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller
>  NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Controller
> < Operating System >
> Windows:5.0 (Build 2195)
>
> < IBM Enhanced (101- or 102-key) keyboard >
>
> < MICROSOFT PS2 MOUSE >
>
> < Drive C > WINDOWS drive MAXTOR
> Total space in drive: 122,934,034,432 bytes (114.49 GB)
> Used space: 14,998,540,288 bytes (13.97 GB)
> Available space: 107,935,494,144 bytes (100.52 GB)
>
> < Volume Information >
>   File System: NTFS
>
> D = LITEON 52x32x52 CD-RW
>
> E= LINUX drive WDC, 13GB I think. Windows has no idea what's on here.
>
> < Drive F > Compaq SCSI - BB01821AC3
> Total space in drive: 18,202,509,312 bytes (16.95 GB)
> Used space: 11,992,743,936 bytes (11.17 GB)
> Available space: 6,209,765,376 

Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way

2004-02-19 Thread Lanman
On February 19, 2004 03:44 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:

Steve; have you looked at the drivers you're using for the NVidia card? Other 
than that, I'd definitely look at your ram for the problem. Try removing the 
ram one stick at a time if possible and trying the system that way. If it 
beahves itself after one piece is removed, you've either got a bad stick or a 
bad ram slot.
-- 
Lanman
Registered Linux user #190712

"Smart IT people are staring out
the window into the eye of a 
giant penguin!"

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Re: [newbie] PC locks up solid. NOT FIXED HELP PLEASE can't survive in LINUX this way

2004-02-19 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 19 Feb 2004 20:44, Steve Kaufman wrote:
>  Below is my original post I had posted back to the list that it was fixed
> but it is not and I don't have any idea where to go. I would really like to
> use Linux but if I can't keep it up (alright no one say it is a personal
> problem) IT DOESN'T DO ME MUCH GOOD.
>
> What I have done was to add the   acpi=off  to the append line it was
> acpi=ht then I rebooted again after doing /sbin/lilo/. The machine then
> stayed up for over 18hrs but I only had the desktop open with no
> application running. I am going to try that again and see if it stays up.
> It's kind of hard to just let it sit there and not do anything. It seems
> like it might not be power management because it has locked up while I was
> using it and not just after setting doing nothing but last night at was
> after I left the room to eat dinner.
>
> I have also checked all logs from Configure you machine/logs in MCC and
> there is absolutly nothing that would indicate a problem.
>
> I also posted a ps -A and someone verified that there were no ACPI
> processes running.
>
> Don't know where else to look.
>
> Steve
> Linux user number 344404
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Steve Kaufman
> Date: 02/17/04 15:46:20
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: PC locks up solid. Power off buton won't even work
>
> Help please,
>
> This is going to be a real challange. I have installed MD9,2 a couple of
> weeks ago. Some of the people on this list have been very wonderfull in
> helping me to overcome some very simple but perplexing problems for a
> newbie
>
>
> This problem does not happen in windows. I can leave my machine up for days
> with no problems.
>
> Here's todays problem and it is a big one that if I can't fix I may have to
> stop using LInux. Intermittently (almost every day) if I leave my pc sit
> inactive for some period of time it will just lockup to where I can not
> even power off the pc with the power button. I have to turn off at the
> surge protector.
>
> I have tried to isolate this to an application and have been unable to. The
> only time it does not seem to happen is when I have no applications open on
> my desktop. As long as the cursor is resting on the desktop not in an
> application then the pc does not seem to lock up.
>
> The only application that I have installed other than the defaut ones that
> come with the 9.2 install is Thunderbird but I have also tried not running
> Thunderbird after a boot to see what would happen and it still locks up.
> The only applications I have really been using are. MCC functions for
> updates and trying to make sure my hardware is configured correctly. I read
> email both with Thunderbird and Kmail. Web browsing with Konqour.
>
> What I have done to attempt to isolate the problem.
> - I have disabled all power management in the bios and in MD (from MCC)
> - I have tried leaving various applications open or closed and I can not
> find a pattern.
> - I have installed all updates.
> - I have looked in logs but don't see anything when it hangs. The logs I
> look at are the ones which can be seen in MCC.
>
> My hardware:
> *  System Summary  *
>   
>Motherboard - ASUS - A7N8X - Delux version 2.0
> Processor:  AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ 2.0 GHz (2500+ overclocked
> I have run in at 2500 and still happens.
> I have had it at 2700 in windows forever
> and no problems)
> BIOS:   Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG Phoenix-Award BIOS v6
> 00PG, 05/14/03
> Bus Type:   PCI, ISA, USB
> Ports:  1 Parallel, 2 Serial
> Memory: 512 MB  (42% Utilized) GEIL 400MHZ PC3200
> Floppy Disks:   1.44 MB
> Hard Disks: 16.95 GB, 16.95 GB, 114.50 GB, 12.66 GB
> Multimedia: Sound, CD-ROM
> Video:  800 x 600 in 64K Colors, NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
> Ver. 6.14 128meg
> LAN  3Com 3C920B-EMB Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller
>  NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Controller
> < Operating System >
> Windows:5.0 (Build 2195)
>
> < IBM Enhanced (101- or 102-key) keyboard >
>
> < MICROSOFT PS2 MOUSE >
>
> < Drive C > WINDOWS drive MAXTOR
> Total space in drive: 122,934,034,432 bytes (114.49 GB)
> Used space: 14,998,540,288 bytes (13.97 GB)
> Available space: 107,935,494,144 bytes (100.52 GB)
>
> < Volume Information >
>   File System: NTFS
>
> D = LITEON 52x32x52 CD-RW
>
> E= LINUX drive WDC, 13GB I think. Windows has no idea what's on here.
>
> < Drive F > Compaq SCSI - BB01821AC3
> Total space in drive: 18,202,509,312 bytes (16.95 GB)
> Used space: 11,992,743,936 bytes (11.17 GB)
> Available space: 6,209,765,376 bytes (5.78 GB)
>
> < Volume Information >
>   File System: NTFS
>
> < Drive G > COMPAQ SCSI - BB018222CA
> Total space in drive: 18,158,800,896 bytes (16.91 GB)
> Used space: 6,830,092,288 bytes (6.36 GB)
> Available