Re: [newbie] REmove me from your mailing list

[JoeHill]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:51:31 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Fig ('RL Cassidy') disseminated the following:

> It's amazing that some people can open there mouth and not say anything.  Much
> less be of any help.  In all that time you took to flame, someone could be
> helped.  I've reverted back to WinXP, 

...and the Linux world was left no poorer for it.

The 'help' was already offered, if you had taken the time to read Greg's reply
you would have seen that you can get instructions on how to unsub by reading the
headers of the list mail.

What that has to do with Linux being ready for prime time is unknown to me,
however I suspect that it is more likely that Linux is doin' just fine, it is
you who are 'not ready'. Going back to XP means one of two things: that you are
enough of a sucker to have paid the 300 bones for it or are some warez punk
running Devil's Own. Pile on top of that the fact you would be compelled to
choose an OS because of one sarcastic comment on a mailing list...

Amazing how much you can tell about a person just by their reaction to a little
snide prodding :-D

BTW, what in the name of $DEITY is Earthlink Zoo Mail?

-- 
JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813
Registered Linux user #282046
Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org
+++
"Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the
most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone."-- John Maynard
Keynes

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] REmove me from your mailing list

[Fig ('RL Cassidy')]

It's amazing that some people can open there mouth and not say anything.  Much less be 
of any help.  In all that time you took to flame, someone could be helped.  I've 
reverted back to WinXP, because linux is not ready for prime time.



-Original Message-
From: JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jan 25, 2004 1:39 PM
To: "Fig ('RL Cassidy')" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [newbie] REmove me from your mailing list

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:30:26 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Fig ('RL Cassidy') disseminated the following:

> me too
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Jan 19, 2004 7:30 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] REmove me from your mailing list
> 
> On Monday 19 January 2004 01:31 am, Rolla Kehrman wrote:
> > REmove me from your mailing list
> >
> You can remove yourself, you have the power.  Check the message headers for a 
> hint.

It's amazing that some people are perfectly able to type, spell, etc., but are
entirely averse to actually *reading*.



-- 
JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813
Registered Linux user #282046
Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org
+++
"He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is
mightier still."-- Lao Tsu


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] REmove me from your mailing list

[Fig ('RL Cassidy')]

me too

-Original Message-
From: Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jan 19, 2004 7:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] REmove me from your mailing list

On Monday 19 January 2004 01:31 am, Rolla Kehrman wrote:
> REmove me from your mailing list
>
You can remove yourself, you have the power.  Check the message headers for a 
hint.

-- 
/g



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Remove boot splash from lilo.conf

[John Richard Smith]

Guy Rouillier wrote:

I changed the message line in lilo.conf to 

message=/boot/message.txt

and created the referenced file with the single line:

Tab or ? to list,  to boot default

If you pull up the supplied /boot/message file, you'll see all kinds of
ANSI sequences, which is where the GUI boot screen is coming from.
 

Guy, I don't think this does what I want.
In my /boot/message.txt, it says
Welcome to LILO the operating system chooser!
Choose an operating system from the list above or
wait 10 seconds for default boot.
and so if I add,

Tab,
M9.1
M9.0
W2000
to list,( or something similar)
This merely changes the splash screen entries, me thinks ?

I've nothing against the gui splash screen 
it's the way the GUI BOOT script gets created anytime you mess with the append=line in lilo.conf. I,m just nift  that anytime you just happen to remove nosplash from the append=line, you cannot get the text boot back again simply by reinserting nosplash, instead you have to go all round the mulbery bush by remaking your /boot/initrd boot image with the mkinitrd command. It really ought to be something simpler and more logical, and it would help if the append line switch were something much easier to remember like guiboot and txtboot.I mean it's nothing to do with the splash screen as such, but the manner of the boot script, text, or flashy gui ?

John 







--
John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Remove boot splash from lilo.conf

[Guy Rouillier]

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:35:04 +
John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> 
> >John,
> >
> >Try splash=silent.
> >
> >Tony.
> >  
> >
> Cannot, Had to do it the long way.
> Add nosplash  to append line in lilo.conf
> move or rename the old initrd file in /boot
> then,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
> 2.4.21-0.13mdk
> mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002)
> then run lilo and reboot,
> 
> I think if the current gui boot script didn't reduce my 17" monitor 
> to about 6" and if it gave me 50 lines of script I wouldn't mind 
> using it. But why they couldn't of thought up some decent easy to 
> remember and change switches for the appen= line, like guiboot and 
> txtboot beats me.Anything with splash in it is going to be confused 
> with the initial splash screen for selecting the OS.

I changed the message line in lilo.conf to 

message=/boot/message.txt

and created the referenced file with the single line:

Tab or ? to list,  to boot default

If you pull up the supplied /boot/message file, you'll see all kinds of
ANSI sequences, which is where the GUI boot screen is coming from.

> 
> John
> 
> 
> -- 
> John Richard Smith
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Guy Rouillier

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Remove boot splash from lilo.conf

[jason pearl]

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:35:04 +
John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Tony S. Sykes wrote:
>
>>John,
>>
>>Try splash=silent.
>>
>>Tony.
>>  
>>
>Cannot, Had to do it the long way.
>Add nosplash  to append line in lilo.conf
>move or rename the old initrd file in /boot
>then,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
>2.4.21-0.13mdk
>mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002)
>then run lilo and reboot,
>
>I think if the current gui boot script didn't reduce my 17" monitor 
>to about 6" and if it gave me 50 lines of script I wouldn't mind 
>using it. But why they couldn't of thought up some decent easy to 
>remember and change switches for the appen= line, like guiboot and 
>txtboot beats me.Anything with splash in it is going to be confused 
>with the initial splash screen for selecting the OS.
>
>John
>
>
>what if u jsut hit escape and then hit tab to list options.
>


-- 

jason pearl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   ++
"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer"-Tupac
   ++
Kurrupted Visionz Phx, AZregistered linux user #307811
MDK 9.2 LinuxMachine# 193475, 227341
AMD64 Opteron 1.6http://counter.li.org
ASUS SK8N
uptime: 03:35:37 up 15:07, 5 users, load average: 0.07, 0.24, 0.26


pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Re: [newbie] Remove boot splash from lilo.conf

[Charlie Mahan]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Tuesday 20 January 2004 7:04 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
> I've forgotten the correct incantation to remove the boot splash on
> boot
> up(back to text boot) my append line looks like this,
>
> append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi nosplash acpi=off"
> and the nosplash is wrong , what should it be ?
>
> John

Try splash=off John. Or if you don't mind the funky eye candy but want the 
boot messages displayed use splash=verbose if you're talking about 9.2.

I don't remember what it was in 9.1, and can't look since I just a few minutes 
ago finished wiping 9.1 from the drives in order to be ready for the first 
10.0 beta install test.

Regards;
Charlie
- -- 
Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org
Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk
12:44:45 up 1:18, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.26, 0.18
Mystics always hope that science will some day overtake them.
-- Booth Tarkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFADYYWZqvqlrLPr5YRAiNPAJ9FTmFn+kfA1wc7R25BVt2pA728JACeOiLy
EvmKFJfYFP50r5VAQ55pruU=
=CGSA
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Remove boot splash from lilo.conf

[John Richard Smith]

Amichai Rotman wrote:

Hi John,

Simple. Just remove the 'nosplash' alltogether, worked for me. 

I used to have 'splash=silent' on my append line before. 

 

No, that's how I got into this in the first place, by hashing out 
the old append line and using a temporary append line for an 
experimental purpose, which did not include 'nosplash', somehow or 
other it's gone and re-written the boot image again. Pain.

John
Later
=
Solution
Add nosplash  to append line in lilo.conf

move or rename the old initrd in /boot

then,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img 
2.4.21-0.13mdk
mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002)

then run lilo and reboot,

GUI boot script gone.

John

--
John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Remove boot splash from lilo.conf

[John Richard Smith]

Amichai Rotman wrote:

Hi John,

Simple. Just remove the 'nosplash' alltogether, worked for me. 

I used to have 'splash=silent' on my append line before. 

 

No, that's how I got into this in the first place, by hashing out the 
old append line and using a temporary append line for an experimental 
purpose, which did not include 'nosplash', somehow or other it's gone 
and re-written the boot image again. Pain.
John

--
John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

RE: [newbie] Remove boot splash from lilo.conf

[Tony S. Sykes]

John,

Try splash=silent.

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 3:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Remove boot splash from lilo.conf


Tony S. Sykes wrote:

>John,
>
>Not sure off the top of my head but you can do it through mcc.
>
>Tony.
>  
>
Well, MCC changed,
append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi nosplash acpi=off"

to,

append="NoSplash devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off"

big deal.

but what is more it didn't work, I've still got that pain in the
backside gui boot script.I think if they cannot get it to be easier to
change around then it would of been better if we haddn't had it at all.I
recon that it's going to mean rebuilding the boot image again.

John


-- 
John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have
received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or
disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes
or the postmaster <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  immediately.

The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not
necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless
specifically stated.  

Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their
attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s)
to verify the integrity of such emails.

 
Business Computer Projects Ltd
BCP House
151 Charles Street
Stockport
Cheshire
SK1 3JY
 
Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000
Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001
Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com <http://www.bcpsoftware.com/> 

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Remove boot splash from lilo.conf

[Amichai Rotman]

Hi John,

Simple. Just remove the 'nosplash' alltogether, worked for me. 

I used to have 'splash=silent' on my append line before. 

HTH.

On Tuesday 20 January 2004 16:14, John Richard Smith wrote:
> I've forgotten the correct incantation to remove the boot splash on
> boot up(back to text boot) my append line looks like this,
>
> append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi nosplash acpi=off"
> and the nosplash is wrong , what should it be ?
>
> John

-- 
.::.

Amichai Rotman

Short text-only e-mails: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UIN#: 6401746
Registered Linux User#: 201192


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Remove boot splash from lilo.conf

[John Richard Smith]

Tony S. Sykes wrote:

John,

Not sure off the top of my head but you can do it through mcc.

Tony.
 

Well, MCC changed,
append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi nosplash acpi=off"
to,

append="NoSplash devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off"

big deal.

but what is more it didn't work, I've still got that pain in the backside gui boot script.I think if they cannot get it to be easier to change around then it would of been better if we haddn't had it at all.I recon that it's going to mean rebuilding the boot image again.

John

--
John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

RE: [newbie] Remove boot splash from lilo.conf

[Tony S. Sykes]

John,

Not sure off the top of my head but you can do it through mcc.

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:05 PM
To: NEWBIE 1
Subject: [newbie] Remove boot splash from lilo.conf


I've forgotten the correct incantation to remove the boot splash on 
boot
up(back to text boot) my append line looks like this,

append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi nosplash acpi=off"
and the nosplash is wrong , what should it be ?

John

-- 
John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have
received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or
disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes
or the postmaster   immediately.

The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not
necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless
specifically stated.  

Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their
attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s)
to verify the integrity of such emails.

 
Business Computer Projects Ltd
BCP House
151 Charles Street
Stockport
Cheshire
SK1 3JY
 
Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000
Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001
Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com  

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] REmove me from your mailing list

[Greg Meyer]

On Monday 19 January 2004 01:31 am, Rolla Kehrman wrote:
> REmove me from your mailing list
>
You can remove yourself, you have the power.  Check the message headers for a 
hint.

-- 
/g

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] REMOVE

[Greg Meyer]

On Monday 02 June 2003 06:05 am, Cédric Andral wrote:
> Can't open my mailbox anymore due to knowledge needs overflow :-|

Cedric,

To remove you have to send a messgae to sympa not the list.  Check the mail 
headers for instructions.
-- 
Greg


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] remove me PLEASE!!!

[Frans Ketelaars]

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:35:18 +
"Scott Middlemiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> To damn many messages... Fills my box up and I can't run an effective business..

See http://www.mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 :)

You can also filter your mail 

-Frans


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] remove me PLEASE!!!

[Keith]

Scott, Filter your incoming mail and send Mandrake mail to a separate mailbox
(I use NINE differnet filters!!!)

On Thursday 19 December 2002 10:35 am, Scott Middlemiss wrote:
> 
> To damn many messages... Fills my box up and I can't run an effective
> business... 
> 
> Scott Earl Middlemiss
> 
>  
> 
> ~~ Respect Freedom By Securing It For All ~~
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Paul Dimitriu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [newbie] trouble getting PHP to work ...
> >Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:26:44 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >What version of Apache are you running? PHP has an
> >issue w/ installing on Apache 2.0 and above. When you
> >type "make", did you look closely for any errors? One
> >of many known errors may pop up when compiling.
> >
> >Paul
> >
> >--- Kenn Murrah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > > well, i've never had to do that manually before, but
> > > I
> > > did go into the commonhttpd.conf file and add those
> > > lines ... actually, they were already there but
> > > commented, so I uncommented them and restarted, but
> > > with no change in the result ...
> > >
> > > (i should also point out that on previous
> > > installatiions, I've used mandrake 8.1 non-server
> > > edition, but I don't know if that's really relevant)
> > >
> > > any other ideas?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > kenn
> > >
> > > --- Todd Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 06:44:26AM -0800, Kenn
> > > > Murrah wrote:
> > > > > Greetings ...
> > > > >
> > > > > I know I've done this a dozen time before,
> but > > > today
> > > > > I'm having trouble installing PHP on my
> Mandrake > > > Linux
> > > > > Server 8.2 ...
> > > > >
> > > > > I've installed php, mod_php, php-mysql, and
> > > > php-gd,
> > > > > but my php-encoded web pages still refuse to
> > > work
> > > > > (i.e., they display the php code) ...
> > > > >
> > > > > what am i doing wrong here?
> > > > >
> > > > > any and all help appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Do you have it set up in your commonhttpd.conf?
> > > > i.e.,
> > > >
> > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
> > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
> > > >
> > > > Todd
> > > >
> > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from
> > > MandrakeSoft?
> > > >
> > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up
> > > now.
> > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com
> > >
> > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from
> >MandrakeSoft?
> > >
> > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >__
> >Do you Yahoo!?
> >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.
> >http://mailplus.yahoo.com
> >
> >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
> The new  href="http://g.msn.com/8HMKEN/2018";>MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2
> months FREE* 


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

RE: [newbie] remove me PLEASE!!!

[Myers, Dennis R NWO]

You 
can get off the mail list by going back to the web page you used to join 
it  http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
  Behalf Of Scott MiddlemissSent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 
  10:35 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] 
  remove me PLEASE!!!
  
  
  To damn many messages... Fills my box up and I can't run an effective 
  business...
  
  
  Scott Earl Middlemiss
  
   
  
  ~~ Respect Freedom By Securing It For All ~~
  
  
  
  
  >From: Paul Dimitriu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  >Subject: Re: [newbie] trouble getting PHP to work ... 
  >Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:26:44 -0800 (PST) 
  > 
  >What version of Apache are you running? PHP has an 
  >issue w/ installing on Apache 2.0 and above. When you 
  >type "make", did you look closely for any errors? One 
  >of many known errors may pop up when compiling. 
  > 
  >Paul 
  > 
  >--- Kenn Murrah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
  > > well, i've never had to do that manually before, but 
  > > I 
  > > did go into the commonhttpd.conf file and add those 
  > > lines ... actually, they were already there but 
  > > commented, so I uncommented them and restarted, but 
  > > with no change in the result ... 
  > > 
  > > (i should also point out that on previous 
  > > installatiions, I've used mandrake 8.1 non-server 
  > > edition, but I don't know if that's really relevant) 
  > > 
  > > any other ideas? 
  > > 
  > > thanks, 
  > > 
  > > kenn 
  > > 
  > > --- Todd Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
  > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 06:44:26AM -0800, Kenn 
  > > > Murrah wrote: 
  > > > > Greetings ... 
  > > > > 
  > > > > I know I've done this a dozen time before, but 
  > > > today 
  > > > > I'm having trouble installing PHP on my 
  Mandrake 
  > > > Linux 
  > > > > Server 8.2 ... 
  > > > > 
  > > > > I've installed php, mod_php, php-mysql, and 
  > > > php-gd, 
  > > > > but my php-encoded web pages still refuse to 
  > > work 
  > > > > (i.e., they display the php code) ... 
  > > > > 
  > > > > what am i doing wrong here? 
  > > > > 
  > > > > any and all help appreciated. 
  > > > > 
  > > > > thanks, 
  > > > 
  > > > Do you have it set up in your commonhttpd.conf? 
  > > > i.e., 
  > > > 
  > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php 
  > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps 
  > > > 
  > > > Todd 
  > > > 
  > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from 
  > > MandrakeSoft? 
  > > > 
  > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com 
  > > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > __ 
  > > Do you Yahoo!? 
  > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up 
  > > now. 
  > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com 
  > > 
  > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from 
  >MandrakeSoft? 
  > > 
  > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com 
  > > 
  > 
  > 
  >__ 
  >Do you Yahoo!? 
  >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. 
  >http://mailplus.yahoo.com 
  > 
  >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
  >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com 
  
  
  The new MSN 8: smart spam 
  protection and 2 months FREE* 

Re: [newbie] remove Mandrake safely

[Charles A Edwards]

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:09:44 +0100
Dave Conroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> 
> My original query was about separate Win2000 and MD8.2 hard drives and
> LiLo as boot manager. I want to remove the MD8.2 hard drive and site
> it in a separate box so I can play around learning Apache. I want my
> Win2000 (single partition) to remain happy and safe as I run my
> business pretty much off it
> 
> Anyway, I'm not sure that my original query has been answered so far
> ... or rather I don't yet feel comfortable about carrying out some of
> the suggestions made. So, did you have a similar set up and after
> completing where you left with a happy Win2000 disk? If yes ... PLEASE
> let me know exactly what you did.
 
Dave 

When I use a separate hd for each OS after installing Win I move that
drive to slave, connect the other drive as Master and install Mandrake
to it.
Lilo will pick up the boot record for whatever version of Win it is.
I personally have dine this with 98, ME, 2K and XP.
The big benefit is that the boot record on your Win disk is never
changed or altered.

If your drives are Win-master and Mandrake-slave and you wish to restore
the 2K bootloader.
IF you only ran the Mandrake installation once and you have not upgraded
your kernel and run lilo, then the best and safest way to restore 2k is
to boot to linux and run:
 /sbin/lilo -u  

This will restore the Last saved version of your MBR, which if you
answered no to the above question will be your 2k boot record.

Before you do anything make sure that you have current versions of your
2K Rescue disk and .etc.
2K can be very fickle.
It will not auto overwrite the MBR when installed nor will it auto
generate an MBR if none exist.


Charles

--
No combat ready unit has ever passed inspection
-- Murphy's Military Laws n°64
--
Charles A Edwards
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] remove directory

[Gerald Waugh]

On Saturday 30 March 2002 06:52 pm, civileme wrote:
> Gerald Waugh wrote:
> >I have a directory   fsn1date +%Y%m%d/
> >It was a bad attempt to create a directory with a date
> >
> >I can't remove it.
> >
> >rm -rf fsn1date +%Y%m%d
> >
> >does nothing
>
> Try escaping the space and other special characters with a \
>
> Civileme

Thanks I got it with
rm -rf fsn1date\ \+%Y%m%d/

-- 
Gerald Waugh : Registered Linux user # 255245
http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com
New Haven, CT, United States of America
11:38pm up 9 days, 8:03, 2 users, load average: 1.06, 1.19, 1.36



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] remove directory

[Derek Jennings]

Anytime you want to refer to a filename with a space in it, just put it in 
quotes

so 
rm "fsn1date +%Y%m%d/"

should do the trick

HTH

derek



On Saturday 30 March 2002 23:23, Gerald Waugh wrote:
> I have a directory   fsn1date +%Y%m%d/
> It was a bad attempt to create a directory with a date
>
> I can't remove it.
>
> rm -rf fsn1date +%Y%m%d
>
> does nothing



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] remove directory

[dfox]

> I have a directory   fsn1date +%Y%m%d/

Have you tried putting quotes around the directory?





Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] remove directory

[civileme]

Gerald Waugh wrote:

>I have a directory   fsn1date +%Y%m%d/
>It was a bad attempt to create a directory with a date
>
>I can't remove it.
>
>rm -rf fsn1date +%Y%m%d
>
>does nothing
>
>
>
>
>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
>
Try escaping the space and other special characters with a \

Civileme






Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Remove

[Hari Yellina]

Thanks for getting u r mail into my junk mail list. Why do u ask so many 
times to remove. I didnt add u , you did it. Please remove u r self. or else 
live with it. 

On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 08:32, you wrote:
> I don't even have mandrake anymore I switched to redhat
> please remove me the commands to [EMAIL PROTECTED] do not
> work
> Please remove me
> Thanks,
> Joannet



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] remove from e-mail list

[Brian Parish]

Felix,

go to http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3

you can remove yourself there.

Brian

On Tue, 2002-01-22 at 15:20, Felix Barreto wrote:

Please remove me from your "newbie" e-mail list.  I simply do not have
time to read this much e-mail.  My e-mail address is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Thanks

Felix Barreto






"There are two kinds of people, those who do the work and those who take
the credit. Try to be in the first group; there is less competition
there." 
-- Indira Gandhi 
>From: George Czerw 
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>To: sjbradtke , Mandrake Newbie 
>Subject: Re: [newbie] DHCP trouble with Comcast.net 
>Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:35:23 -0500 
> 
> 
>Steve, 
> 
>I'm NOT using a separate firewall, but it sounds like you have a bad 
>DHCP configuration, and you could run into this problem whether you 
>have a firewall or just a single machine. 
> 
> 
>1. Make sure that /etc/resolv.conf contains the IP addresses of the 
>Comcast DNS servers in your area AND make sure that the search domain 
>correctly reflects the new network information if you know it because 
>you have either gotten it from a machine that works or from someone in 
>your area who knows what it is. Mine looks like: 
> 
>nameserver 68.46.144.5 
>nameserver 68.46.144.6 
>search brlngt01.nj.comcast.net 
> 
>2. Your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_resolv.default should 
>contain the same information that the resolv.conf file does. 
> 
>3. Your initial /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 should 
>look like the following: 
> 
>DEVICE="eth0" 
>DHCP_HOSTNAME="whatever your's is" 
>BOOTPROTO="dhcp" 
>IPADDR="" 
>NETMASK="" 
>NETWORK="" 
>BROADCAST="" 
>ONBOOT="yes" 
> 
>After DHCP passes the parameters, the "blanks" should be filled in 
>with the correct information. 
> 
>4. If you haven't turned your cable modem off since the conversion, 
>you should do so, so that will clear any cached information out of its 
>memory. 
> 
>Hope this helps. 
> 
>George 
> 
>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com 


MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here

> 
> 

> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com





Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] remove from e-mail list

[Felix Barreto]

Please remove me from your "newbie" e-mail list.  I simply do not have time to read this much e-mail.  My e-mail address is:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Thanks
Felix Barreto
"There are two kinds of people, those who do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the first group; there is less competition there." 
-- Indira Gandhi 



>From: George Czerw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>To: sjbradtke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mandrake Newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [newbie] DHCP trouble with Comcast.net 
>Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:35:23 -0500 
> 
> 
>Steve, 
> 
>I'm NOT using a separate firewall, but it sounds like you have a bad 
>DHCP configuration, and you could run into this problem whether you 
>have a firewall or just a single machine. 
> 
> 
>1. Make sure that /etc/resolv.conf contains the IP addresses of the 
>Comcast DNS servers in your area AND make sure that the search domain 
>correctly reflects the new network information if you know it because 
>you have either gotten it from a machine that works or from someone in 
>your area who knows what it is. Mine looks like: 
> 
>nameserver 68.46.144.5 
>nameserver 68.46.144.6 
>search brlngt01.nj.comcast.net 
> 
>2. Your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_resolv.default should 
>contain the same information that the resolv.conf file does. 
> 
>3. Your initial /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 should 
>look like the following: 
> 
>DEVICE="eth0" 
>DHCP_HOSTNAME="whatever your's is" 
>BOOTPROTO="dhcp" 
>IPADDR="" 
>NETMASK="" 
>NETWORK="" 
>BROADCAST="" 
>ONBOOT="yes" 
> 
>After DHCP passes the parameters, the "blanks" should be filled in 
>with the correct information. 
> 
>4. If you haven't turned your cable modem off since the conversion, 
>you should do so, so that will clear any cached information out of its 
>memory. 
> 
>Hope this helps. 
> 
>George 
> 
>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com 
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Remove Sendmail

[SKLIM]

OK ..thank for your information ... then how to remove sendmail files clean
in my Linux BOX

Best Regards,
SKLIM

- Original Message -
From: "Gerald Waugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Remove Sendmail


> > "SKLIM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I have configure my sendmail with a source files. But there was a
problem
> > > running sendmail.
> > >
> > > How can I remove sendmail program from my Linux BOX
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > SKLIM
> >
> try /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail stop
> this will stop the running process.
>
> then do
>
> chkconfig --level 2345 sendmail off
> this will stop it from starting when you reboot.
>
> Gerald
>
>






> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
>




Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Remove Sendmail

[Gerald Waugh]

> "SKLIM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have configure my sendmail with a source files. But there was a problem
> > running sendmail.
> >
> > How can I remove sendmail program from my Linux BOX
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > SKLIM
>
try /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail stop
this will stop the running process.

then do

chkconfig --level 2345 sendmail off
this will stop it from starting when you reboot.

Gerald



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Remove Sendmail

[daRcmaTTeR]

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:30:06 +0800
"SKLIM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

> Hi!
> 
> I have configure my sendmail with a source files. But there was a problem
> running sendmail.
> 
> How can I remove sendmail program from my Linux BOX
> 
> Best Regards,
> SKLIM
> 
> 

if you installed it from a compiled binary that you compiled there on your
system then just delete the binary from your system. If you installed
Sendmail from an RPM package...( i know... a redundant statement, but it's
been a real long day...) then you will have to uninstall the package.

rpm -qa|grep sendmail

to get the correct package name, and then

rpm -e 

thats all there is to it.

-- 
daRcmaTTeR
-
If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do
the first time!

Registered Linux User 182496
Mandrake 8.1
-
  7:05pm  up 4 days,  9:37,  2 users,  load average: 0.22, 0.47, 0.57



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] remove

[Frans Ketelaars]

On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 20:04:26 +
FDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Try http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/, on the left side:

SUPPORT   E-Support Mailing lists

There you can find (un)subscribe info. HTH,

-Frans



Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] REMOVE ME (OT)

[Renaud OLGIATI]

On Wednesday 21 March 2001 21:02, my mailbox was honoured by a missive from 
you that said :
> doesn't anyone READ the instructions anymore? God only knows what they'd
> do with a map somewhere out in the wilderness with little gas left. call
> the map maker for directions?

They'll just whip out the cellphone, and call 911  ;-)

Cheers,

Ron the Frog, on the banks of the Paraguay River
(where we have cell-phones, but no 911 service)

BTW, seems my random sig-file generator is on topic this hour !
-- 
Genius may have its limitations,
 but stupidity is not thus handicapped.
  -- Elbert Hubbard
  ---  http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati  ---

Re: [newbie] REMOVE ME

[Adrian Smith]

now now guys...
lets be nice to the windows users.
if they could read, they wouldn't need icons to click on.



Adrian Smith
'de telepone dude
Telecom Dept.
x 7042
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>>> Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6:02:01 PM 3/21/01 >>>
doesn't anyone READ the instructions anymore? God only knows what they'd
do with a map somewhere out in the wilderness with little gas left. call
the map maker for directions?


NOT!

Mark

Michael Scottaline wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > TAKE ME OFF THIS LIST PLEASE!
> > REMOVE ME!
> 
> There is NO ONE on this list that can remove you.  `cept, of course,
> the person who signed you up for it.  My guess is that would be YOU!
> Go back to where you signed up and read up on how to remove yourself
> from the list.  We just CAN'T do it!!
> Mike
> --
> "Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and 
>dreadful idolatry took place there."
> --Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century
> __
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at 
>http://webmail.netscape.com/ 

Re: [newbie] REMOVE ME

[Mark Weaver]

doesn't anyone READ the instructions anymore? God only knows what they'd
do with a map somewhere out in the wilderness with little gas left. call
the map maker for directions?


NOT!

Mark

Michael Scottaline wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > TAKE ME OFF THIS LIST PLEASE!
> > REMOVE ME!
> 
> There is NO ONE on this list that can remove you.  `cept, of course,
> the person who signed you up for it.  My guess is that would be YOU!
> Go back to where you signed up and read up on how to remove yourself
> from the list.  We just CAN'T do it!!
> Mike
> --
> "Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and 
>dreadful idolatry took place there."
> --Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century
> __
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at 
>http://webmail.netscape.com/

Re: [newbie] REMOVE ME

[Quaylar]

At 08:35 21.03.2001 -0800, you wrote:
>TAKE ME OFF THIS LIST PLEASE!
>REMOVE ME!
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "mta2001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:22 PM
>Subject: [newbie] test
>
>
> >
> >
> >


http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3


just to break this thread..

Re: [newbie] REMOVE ME

[Anthony]

READ THE INSTRUCTIONS AND REMOVE YOURSELF!

Aumiller wrote:
> 
> TAKE ME OFF THIS LIST PLEASE!
> REMOVE ME!
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "mta2001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:22 PM
> Subject: [newbie] test
> 
> >
> >
> >

Re: [newbie] REMOVE ME

[Michael Scottaline]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> TAKE ME OFF THIS LIST PLEASE!
> REMOVE ME!

There is NO ONE on this list that can remove you.  `cept, of course,
the person who signed you up for it.  My guess is that would be YOU!
Go back to where you signed up and read up on how to remove yourself
from the list.  We just CAN'T do it!!
Mike
--
"Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and 
dreadful idolatry took place there."
--Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century
__
Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at 
http://webmail.netscape.com/

Re: [newbie] remove me

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

Not this again...


On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 08:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson

Re: [newbie] remove me

[stephen galowski]

how about using the correct removal sting people

At 07:04 AM 24/02/2001 Saturday, you wrote:






>---
>Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>Version: 6.0.231 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 12/02/2001



---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.231 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 12/02/2001

Re: [newbie] remove me

[Mark Weaver]

Richard Davies wrote:

Ok...you're removed!
-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Re: [newbie] remove me

[Romanator]

Hey now...

Mark Weaver wrote:
> 
> me too Me too!!!
> 
> --
> Mark
> 
> "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
> "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
> 
> On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> 
> > Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 03:37:36 +1100
> > From: Sridhar Dhanapalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] remove me
> >
> > pay me
> >
> >
> > On Mon,  5 Feb 2001 03:33, Brian Overby wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >

Re: [newbie] remove me

[Jesse C. Chang]

Linux Tests wrote:

> If it upsets you *so much* to see a remove me message, then filter out the 
> messages that say "remove me" in the subject line.

I didn't say it upsets me;  I said don't be surprised if [he gets] flamed
(not necessarily by me).  The guy was upset that people complained about
his "remove me" message when people had every right to complain.

And yes, people could filter it out.  But no one should have to do that.
Besides, there's always the possibility that a different Subject: line is
used, or a legitimate message with "remove" (or whatever) in the Subject:
gets filtered on accident.  *shrug*  Whatever.


Jesse

-- 
   !!   Jesse C. Chang  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [___]
  `|'   "I have the simplest tastes.  I am always
  /|\   satisfied with the best."  -- Oscar Wilde

Re: [newbie] remove me

[Linux Tests]

If it upsets you *so much* to see a remove me message, then filter out the 
messages that say "remove me" in the subject line.

:-P

On Wed, 07 Feb 2001, you wrote:
##Oops...dunno why my message didn't get sent properly - bounced the message
##I meant to reply to.
##
##Anyways...if you are a mailing-list newbie, try RTFM _before_ you subscribe
##to a mailing-list.  Otherwise, don't be surprised if you get flamed when
##you send a "remove me" message to the list (after all, it's a
 net.tradition, ##eh? :) ).  Don't think it's excusable just because this is
 a _Linux_ newbie ##list.
##
##
##Jesse - yes, I know it's a little too late.  :P
##

Re: [newbie] remove me

[Jesse C. Chang]

Oops...dunno why my message didn't get sent properly - bounced the message
I meant to reply to.

Anyways...if you are a mailing-list newbie, try RTFM _before_ you subscribe
to a mailing-list.  Otherwise, don't be surprised if you get flamed when
you send a "remove me" message to the list (after all, it's a net.tradition,
eh? :) ).  Don't think it's excusable just because this is a _Linux_ newbie
list.


Jesse - yes, I know it's a little too late.  :P

-- 
   !!   Jesse C. Chang  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [___]
  `|'   "I have the simplest tastes.  I am always
  /|\   satisfied with the best."  -- Oscar Wilde

Re: [newbie] remove me

[Mark Weaver]

Brian,

sounds like you need to unplug for a while and follow the direction given
by that poster cause they were correct directions. you could also "read"
the directions that you received when you first signed up for the list.
They state quite clearly how to get removed from the list.

O, and I don't remember hearing anyone shouting...except for you that is.

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."


On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Brian Overby wrote:

> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:37:52 +0100
> From: Brian Overby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] remove me
>
> yeye tryed it .. dident work and istead of shouting  and getting all spazm
> like why dont you just shut up if you havent got anything positive to say?
> .. and oh.. in case you dident notice the conference group here is "newbie"
> <- being the case word.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "philomena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 3:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] remove me
>
>
> > is there a full moon or something that there are so many of these today
> > ??!!?!
> >
> > go back to where you signed up and follow the instructions !
> >
> > philomena
> >
> > > Brian Overby wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

RE: [newbie] remove me

[Mark Weaver]

good one Charles!  :)

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."


On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Charles A Edwards wrote:

> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:41:00 -0500
> From: Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [newbie] remove me
>
>
>
>  To all who wish to be removed from this list:
>
> Use what functional portion of gray matter which you have remaining and
> return to the page at which you joined the list.
> If this is now above the level of your capibilites you may do so by using
> your mouse and clicking upon this link
> http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3
> Read carefully and sloowly the simple instructions and all should become
> clear.
>
>Charles  }-;
>
> Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
>
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] remove me

[Mark Weaver]

split up between us all what does that come to a person. That is assuming
that we don't want to keep them around for the sheer entertainment value.
I think Brian is about to bust a nut. He's sounding REAL anoyed.

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."


On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, philomena wrote:

> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 08:19:08 -0500
> From: philomena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [newbie] remove me
>
> These requests are facsinating - I'm assuming you don't read ALL the
> other posts from people asking the same thing, and then, the highly
> sarcastic/humorous and occasionnally serious responses from others on
> the list ??
>
> Common sense - try looking where you signed up - there are instructions
> on how to un-sign-up.
>
> Oh yes, the price to be removed is up to $15, but you'll have to do the
> money conversion  :-)
>
> philomena
>
> Bill Roddie wrote:
> >
> > Will somebody help me get off this list please
> >
> > Bill
>
>

Re: [newbie] remove me

[Mark Weaver]

Dude! read the bottom of the email. there are directions on how to do that
there; on the original message you got when you signed up; AND at the
mandrake site where you most likely signed up to get "on" the list.


-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."


On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Bill Roddie wrote:

> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:52:07 -
> From: Bill Roddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [newbie] remove me
>
>
> Will somebody help me get off this list please
>
> Bill
>
>

Re: [newbie] remove me

[Mark Weaver]

me too Me too!!!

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."


On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 03:37:36 +1100
> From: Sridhar Dhanapalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] remove me
>
> pay me
>
>
> On Mon,  5 Feb 2001 03:33, Brian Overby wrote:
>
>
>
>

RE: [newbie] Remove!!!!!!!!

[SJN]

You can check-in anytime you like
But you can never leave...

Hotel California
Eagles

I say,

"Death to False Linux... errr I mean Metal!"

regards
Joe
RLU# 186063 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Henk Buwalda
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 7:50 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] Remove
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Please remove me
> 
> Henk Buwalda
> 
> 
> 

Re: [newbie] remove me

[Jesse C. Chang]

Brian Overby wrote:
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
> yeye tryed it .. dident work and istead of shouting  and getting all spazm
> like why dont you just shut up if you havent got anything positive to say?
> .. and oh.. in case you dident notice the conference group here is "newbie"
> <- being the case word.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "philomena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 3:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] remove me
> 
> 
> > is there a full moon or something that there are so many of these today
> > ??!!?!
> >
> > go back to where you signed up and follow the instructions !
> >
> > philomena
> >
> > > Brian Overby wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 


-- 
   !!   Jesse C. Chang  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [___]
  `|'   "I have the simplest tastes.  I am always
  /|\   satisfied with the best."  -- Oscar Wilde

Re: [newbie] Remove!!!!!!!!

[Roger Sherman]

OK...in return, can you make my next 6 rent payments? Come on...


peace,

Rog
http://www.slammingrooves.com
Registered Linux user #19071

On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Henk Buwalda wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Please remove me
>
> Henk Buwalda
>
>
>

RE: [newbie] Remove!!!!!!!!

[Jose M. Sanchez]

Error: 3202 - Request refused.

If you are reading this then your request was not processed by the server.
This indicates an error in the command format or syntax received by the
server.

Please resubmit your request using the correct syntax.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Henk Buwalda
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 6:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Remove


Hi,

Please remove me

Henk Buwalda

RE: [newbie] remove me

[Jose M. Sanchez]

No
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Overby
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 11:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] remove me

Re: [newbie] remove me

[Traumax]

The idiot bit it totally uncalled for. There is no need for this behaviour
on these pages!!!

- Original Message -
From: "mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] remove me


| On Mon, 05 Feb 2001, Traumax wrote:
| > Subject: [newbie] remove me
| >
| >
| > |
| > |
| > |
|
| How did so many idiots get signed up at once anyways
|
|

Re: [newbie] Remove!!

[Aston]

Jason Ashman wrote:
> 
> On Monday 05 February 2001 11:49, you wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Please remove me
> >
> > Henk Buwalda
> I find it utterly amazing that this kind of thing still happens!


i belong to a macintosh discussion group as well, and i have to say that
this had happened only twice, since then i think the listmoms have set a
filter on the subject line (my memory might be wrong here).  since then,
i have never seen any removal requests ...  it's a lively discussion
group, with average of over 50msgs per night for me, so i'm sure there
would have been people who unwittingly signed up not knowing the volume
of the emails they would be getting.  

would the list moms (ok ok, list administrators) here be able to filter
out these messages, and set up some form of automatic responses?

aston
sydney, australia

Re: [newbie] remove me

[stephen galowski]

obviousley people are not reading the bottom of the email
stephen

At 12:13 PM 6/02/2001 Tuesday, you wrote:

>is there a full moon or something that there are so many of these today
>??!!?!
>
>go back to where you signed up and follow the instructions !
>
>philomena
>
> > Brian Overby wrote:
> >
> >



---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 25/01/2001

Re: [newbie] remove me

[philomena]

is there a full moon or something that there are so many of these today
??!!?!

go back to where you signed up and follow the instructions !

philomena

> Brian Overby wrote:
> 
>

Re: [newbie] remove me

[mark]

On Mon, 05 Feb 2001, Traumax wrote:
> Subject: [newbie] remove me
> 
> 
> | 
> | 
> |

How did so many idiots get signed up at once anyways

Re: [newbie] remove me

[mark]

On Mon, 05 Feb 2001, Bill Roddie wrote:
> 

I am always amazed at the people who have the wherewithal
to get signed up to the list, but completely oblivious to
get off it.  

I'll get you off it for $20  (inflation)

RE: [newbie] remove me

[Kelly, Christopher]

I got a check from a desperate soul once...I still didn't tell them.

-Original Message-
From: Philomena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 10:09 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] remove me


I think I'll have to make my fortune elsewhere - somehow, no one seems to 
send the money ! :-)

cheers,
philomena

At 02:48 PM 2/5/2001 +, Bill Roddie wrote:


>-Original Message-
>From:   philomena [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent:   Monday, February 05, 2001 1:19 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:Re: [newbie] remove me
>
>If there are alot of people asking the same thing then presumable they do 
>that for a reason. Maybe they are just thick like me.
>But then it takes all sorts ah!!!
>
>Hope you get rich quick
>
>Bill
>
>
>These requests are facsinating - I'm assuming you don't read ALL the
>other posts from people asking the same thing, and then, the highly
>sarcastic/humorous and occasionnally serious responses from others on
>the list ??
>
>Common sense - try looking where you signed up - there are instructions
>on how to un-sign-up.
>
>Oh yes, the price to be removed is up to $15, but you'll have to do the
>money conversion  :-)
>
>philomena
>
>Bill Roddie wrote:
> >
> > Will somebody help me get off this list please
> >
> > Bill

RE: [newbie] remove me

[Philomena]

I think I'll have to make my fortune elsewhere - somehow, no one seems to 
send the money ! :-)

cheers,
philomena

At 02:48 PM 2/5/2001 +, Bill Roddie wrote:


>-Original Message-
>From:   philomena [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent:   Monday, February 05, 2001 1:19 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:    Re: [newbie] remove me
>
>If there are alot of people asking the same thing then presumable they do 
>that for a reason. Maybe they are just thick like me.
>But then it takes all sorts ah!!!
>
>Hope you get rich quick
>
>Bill
>
>
>These requests are facsinating - I'm assuming you don't read ALL the
>other posts from people asking the same thing, and then, the highly
>sarcastic/humorous and occasionnally serious responses from others on
>the list ??
>
>Common sense - try looking where you signed up - there are instructions
>on how to un-sign-up.
>
>Oh yes, the price to be removed is up to $15, but you'll have to do the
>money conversion  :-)
>
>philomena
>
>Bill Roddie wrote:
> >
> > Will somebody help me get off this list please
> >
> > Bill

RE: [newbie] remove me

[Bill Roddie]

-Original Message-
From:   philomena [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, February 05, 2001 1:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] remove me

If there are alot of people asking the same thing then presumable they do that for a 
reason. Maybe they are just thick like me. 
But then it takes all sorts ah!!!

Hope you get rich quick

Bill


These requests are facsinating - I'm assuming you don't read ALL the
other posts from people asking the same thing, and then, the highly
sarcastic/humorous and occasionnally serious responses from others on
the list ?? 

Common sense - try looking where you signed up - there are instructions
on how to un-sign-up.

Oh yes, the price to be removed is up to $15, but you'll have to do the
money conversion  :-)

philomena

Bill Roddie wrote:
> 
> Will somebody help me get off this list please
> 
> Bill

Re: [newbie] Remove!!!!!!!!

[Michael Scottaline]

Henk Buwalda scribed:
>
> Hi,
> 
> Please remove me
> 
> Henk Buwalda

Henk,
No one on this list can remove you, but you.  Go to the Mandrake site and read the 
directions if you haven't saved your initial welcoming message
Mike
--
"Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and 
dreadful idolatry took place there."
--Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century
__
Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at 
http://webmail.netscape.com/

RE: [newbie] remove me

[Charles A Edwards]

 To all who wish to be removed from this list:

Use what functional portion of gray matter which you have remaining and
return to the page at which you joined the list.
If this is now above the level of your capibilites you may do so by using
your mouse and clicking upon this link
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3
Read carefully and sloowly the simple instructions and all should become
clear.

   Charles  }-;

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.

Re: [newbie] remove me

[philomena]

These requests are facsinating - I'm assuming you don't read ALL the
other posts from people asking the same thing, and then, the highly
sarcastic/humorous and occasionnally serious responses from others on
the list ?? 

Common sense - try looking where you signed up - there are instructions
on how to un-sign-up.

Oh yes, the price to be removed is up to $15, but you'll have to do the
money conversion  :-)

philomena

Bill Roddie wrote:
> 
> Will somebody help me get off this list please
> 
> Bill

RE: [newbie] remove me

[Kelly, Christopher]

You didn't say the magic words...

-Original Message-
From: Cristian Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] remove me




Cristián Rodríguez Vásquez 
Jefe de Soporte e Ingeniería de Sistemas 
Unidad Informática 
Junta Nacional de Auxilio Escolar y Becas 
Antonio Varas Nº 153 - Providencia 
Fono: (562) 235-98-98 Anexo 234 
Fax  : (562) 235-98-98 Anexo 119 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
www.junaeb.cl  

 -Mensaje original-
De: Bill Roddie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Enviado el: Lunes, 05 de Febrero de 2001 04:56 a.m.
Para:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: [newbie] remove me

Re: [newbie] remove me

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

pay me


On Mon,  5 Feb 2001 03:33, Brian Overby wrote:



-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson

Re: [newbie] remove

[David Boles]

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:03:59 -0800, Beckycould said:

You have to remove yourself from the list at the same place that you
subscribed to the list.

Go to : http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3

Look for SUPPORT LISTS, enter your email address, select UN subscribe,
click on SUBMIT.  

-- 

David Boles
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie] remove partitions

[bascule]

begs the question alan, what is different about a type 85 extended
partition compared to an 'ordinary' extended partition?

bascule

Alan Shoemaker wrote:

> 
> EdPM can't read what's inside a type 85 extended
> partition and that'd what diskdrake makes in 7.2.  You need
> to use linux fdisk as root:
> 
>

Re: [newbie] remove partitions

[Alan Shoemaker]

ed wrote:
> Hi heres my Question how do I remove the linux partitions
> on my HD without having to format the whole HD. I used
> partition magic to make the partitions on my HD and then I
> used diskdrake to shrink them to have
> /hda5,/homehda7,swaphda6,/usrhda8 and hdawindows for a
> dual-bootbox.I've done this before with partition magic and
> just deleted the partition and reinstalled but I cant
> delete it this time I think it's cause I used diskdrake to
> shrink them. Any advice will be helpful I'am running mdk
> 7.2 thanks

EdPM can't read what's inside a type 85 extended 
partition and that'd what diskdrake makes in 7.2.  You need 
to use linux fdisk as root:

fdisk /dev/hda

go slowly, refer to the 'm'[enu] command a lot and you'll do 
fine.

Oh, as an alternative, you don't really need to pre-delete 
the partions, you can do it during the installation.  And as 
another alternative you can run harddrake from the K(menu) -> 
configuration -> hardware menu and execute diskdrake from 
there and use it instead of fdisk.
-- 
Alan

Re: [newbie] remove partitions

[EagleIce]

Roger is right, you should be able to delete the ext2 partitions with Partition
Magic (at least if PM can read them) and expand the Win partition afterwards (or
make an extra Win partition or whatever!). If this is absolutely impossible
then I would try Windows fdisk. You can fix the MBR with fdisk too; fdisk/mbr or
fdisk\mbr.

ei
 

On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Roger Sherman wrote:
> On 19 Nov 2000, ed wrote:
> 
> > Hi heres my Question how do I remove the linux partitions on my HD without 
> >  having to format the whole HD. I used partition magic to make the partitions
> > on my HD and then I used diskdrake to shrink them to have 
> >  /hda5,/homehda7,swaphda6,/usrhda8 and hdawindows for a dual-bootbox.I've done
> > this before with partition magic and just deleted the partition and
> > reinstalled but I cant delete it this time I think it's cause I used diskdrake
> > to shrink them. Any advice will be helpful I'am running mdk 7.2
> >  thanks
> > 
> 
> 
> I think you could do this - boot into Windows, run Partition Magic, using
> PM delete the linux partition, then expand the Windows partition. You will
> prolly have to use an old MBR to reboot into Windows.
> 
> Not 100% on that, but I think it'll work
> 
> -- 
> 
> peace,
> 
> Rog
> 
> http://www.slammingrooves.com
> Registered Linux user #190719
-- 
@~~ EagleIce ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~@
@~~ Running GNU/Linux & KDE ~~@

Re: [newbie] remove partitions

[Roger Sherman]

On 19 Nov 2000, ed wrote:

> Hi heres my Question how do I remove the linux partitions on my HD without 
>  having to format the whole HD. I used partition magic to make the partitions
> on my HD and then I used diskdrake to shrink them to have 
>  /hda5,/homehda7,swaphda6,/usrhda8 and hdawindows for a dual-bootbox.I've done
> this before with partition magic and just deleted the partition and
> reinstalled but I cant delete it this time I think it's cause I used diskdrake
> to shrink them. Any advice will be helpful I'am running mdk 7.2
>  thanks
> 


I think you could do this - boot into Windows, run Partition Magic, using
PM delete the linux partition, then expand the Windows partition. You will
prolly have to use an old MBR to reboot into Windows.

Not 100% on that, but I think it'll work

-- 

peace,

Rog

http://www.slammingrooves.com
Registered Linux user #190719

Re: [newbie] remove from the list

[Oliver L. Plaine Jr.]

On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:19:26 -0500,Rob wrote:

>
>If there is another way than this to remove myself from this list can
>someone please let me know.

Wed, 13 Sep 2000  12:44:37

We on this list cannot unzubscribe you.

To unzubscribe <-(spell like this except replace z with an s)
Return to the page from which you signed up, and follow the
instructions,
just use the link below.

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3

or you can

send an e-mail to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

unzubscribe newbie (replace z with an s) in the subject line

Re: [newbie] remove from the list

[Philomena]

I guess you must have missed the hundreds of other messages asking the same 
thing, and the thousands of responses (well, perhaps I exaggerate a bit)

go back to where you subscribed (in the mailing list section on the 
Mandrake homepage) and follow the directions

philomena

At 12:19 PM 9/13/00 -0500, you wrote:
>If there is another way than this to remove myself from this list can
>someone please let me know.
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>Behalf Of Larry Marshall
>Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:56 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
>
>
>"Daniel J. Ferris" wrote:
>
> > Three methods I found:
>
>While I would agree with your methods to some extent, I'd modify them
>just a wee bit.
>
> > 1.  Loose X windows for a little while and learn some command
> > line
>
>This is where I disagree.  There is nothing better when learning than
>to have 2-3 xterms open.  One holds man page lookups, the other the
>actual working commandline and a thirdjust in case.  It's sortof
>an analog to the days when I had a commandline and a whole bunch of
>manuals open on the desk :-)
>
> > 2.  Take a class :-)
> > 3.  Buy lots of books and learn to use man
>
>A good start on the books would be Running Linux and Linux in a
>Nutshell, both by O'Reilly press.  Linux in a Nutshell is the best
>reference around and the other one provides some good insights into
>how Linux works and why.
>
>A fourth "method" I'd add to your list is "Don't forget everything you
>know about Windows."  I know that's probably heresy here but I'm
>watching two Linux newbies now and if they'd just think, "What would I
>do if I were in Windows?" they'd be less confused about some of the
>stuff.  If you view /mnt/windows as equal to C:, it's not so wierd to
>have to either click on an icon to get there or cd /mnt/windows to get
>there.  But one of my newbies asked me what the difference between
>these two were and yet he's comfortable at the DOS prompt as well as
>on the Windows desktop.  In short, yes, Linux does a lot of things
>different from the way Windows does them (and better too) but file
>handling and stuff like that is very similar.
>
>Hmmm...I'll add a fifth method.  If you're coming from Windows and run
>into a problem with Linux, ask "Do I know how this is handled in
>Windows" before you start chasing your tail.  Don't accept an answer
>like "I just run CD Creator."  Rather, using that example, when you
>start trying to write to your CD-writer, ask "Do I know how CDs are
>written under Windows?", "Do I know the difference between CD-RW and
>CD-R writes?", "Do I know what is going happens when I answer that
>question at the end of CD-Creator where it asks me whether I want the
>CD-R closed or not?".  If you can answer yes to these kinds of
>questions under Linux, it's a simple matter of finding the analog
>tools under Linux.  If you can't, you need to read some about the
>actual process.  This "fifth method" helps send you down the right
>road.
>
>Cheers --- Larry
>
> >
> > Look at me, I still don't know that much even after 2 years :-)
> >
> > Dan
>
>

Re: [newbie] remove

[J.Carson]

yes you have to be in root, unless you have set your nornal login to
superuser equivalent (which you shouldnt do)  As for where the program
installs, I would assume that it installs in whichever directory you are
currently in, I actually wanted to use rpms at first, but the tar.gz is
better, simply download your files in tar.gz format and at the prompt type
tar -xvzf   and it'll install in whichever directory you are in.




)(
Jason Carson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.home.net/jaroca
ICQ: 35152653
)(
- Original Message -
From: "Michael E. Dosier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 11:42 AM
Subject: [newbie] remove


> remove
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of andy barnes
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 10:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] Where do Programs Go?
>
>
> When you install an RPM, you have to be in root, don't you??
>
>
>
> OK..when you install, where does Linux put this program.. Bear with me
> as I'm used to a Windows environment, where it puts it either onto your
> C drive or into Program Files on C drive, and you kind find an .exe even
> if you can't see an icon to click..
>
>
>
> When you revert to user, I can't work out how to run a program after
> it's installed.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy
>
>

RE: [newbie] Remove

[paul haine]

> How Can I Remove From The Newbie List?

Out-grown it eh? 

;o)

Re: [[newbie] remove me from this socialization]

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

Go to the Linux Mandrake web page (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/) and follow the 
links in
the left frame to the mailing list page.
Here there will be an option to unsubscribe.

Michael Scottaline wrote:

> "WILLIAM DOUGLAS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
> > please remove my name and e-mail address from your list immediately.  i have
> more impotant thing to do, than reading other peoples e-mails all day.
> ==
> We can't remove you.  No one on this list can remove you but you!!
>
> ##
> Michael Scottaline
> Linux 2.2.13
> ##
>
> 
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
>http://webmail.netscape.com.

Re: [[newbie] remove me from this socialization]

[Michael Scottaline]

"WILLIAM DOUGLAS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

> please remove my name and e-mail address from your list immediately.  i have
more impotant thing to do, than reading other peoples e-mails all day.
==
We can't remove you.  No one on this list can remove you but you!!

##
Michael Scottaline
Linux 2.2.13
##


Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
http://webmail.netscape.com.

Re: [newbie] remove

[Richard Fujimoto]

remove  unsubscribe
- Original Message - 
From: "Hieronymous Bosch VII" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 5:34 PM
Subject: [newbie] remove


> Please remove my name and e-mail address from all your 
> lists immediately.
> 
> --- This message was intercepted by SpamKiller (www.spamkiller.com) ---
> 
> use rawwrite from within dos and of course use the non
> windows version with the cd-image... it works just
> keep trying.
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I don't have the answer but the same thing happend
> > to me
> > V delephimne
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Antoniou, Stylianos
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 12:10 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.0 installation
> >
> >
> > Hi there,
> > I downloaded Mandrake 7.0 iso image file, burnt the
> > installation CD but when
> > I tried the installation, after the first successful
> > step of recognizing my
> > hardware, it could not intialize the CD-ROM. After
> > the 'Intializing
> > CD-ROM...' message it gave me:
> > 'mount failed. Invalid argument;
> > and then
> > 'Error mounting ramdisk. This shouldn't happen. I am
> > rebooting your system
> > now'
> >
> > I then tired to make a boot floppy with
> > rawwritewin.exe. However, when I
> > tried to open it (following the orders of
> > install.htm) I got the message:
> > F:\dosutils\rawwritewin.exe is not a valid Win32
> > application' This made me
> > suspicious whether the CD was created correctly.
> > Does anybody know if it is
> > a problem with the new version of Mandrake or with
> > the program that I used
> > to burn the CD (Easy-CD creator 4.0, which very
> > rarely gave problems,
> > anyway).
> > Thank you in advance
> > S. Antoniou
> >
> >
> 
> =
> Silence is the best substitute for brains ever invented.
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> http://im.yahoo.com
> 
> 

RE: [newbie] remove

[Mike Perry]

I think this guys behavior should be severely discouraged
with extreme prejudice :-(
Spamming a list is NOT the accepted way of requesting 
cancellation of subscription.

Michael Perry.
R&D. Dep. Netafim Magal.
<<<>>>


> -Original Message-
> From: Hieronymous Bosch VII [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sun 30 January 2000 0:35
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [newbie] remove
> 
> Please remove my name and e-mail address from all your 
> lists immediately.
> 
> --- This message was intercepted by SpamKiller (www.spamkiller.com) ---
> 
> I just installed Mandrake 7.0. Ok, on boot, I get an error that says:
> mount: fs type supermount not supported by kernel   [FAILED]
> 
> It ends up booting for the most part ok as far as I can tell. What's up
> with
> this error message?
> 
> WebDreamer
> __
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> 

Re: [newbie] Remove

[melissa davis]

  newbie remove

Re: [newbie] REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE

[Hugh]

I get a feeling your trying to tell use something


On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
> 
> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
> 
>  
> 
> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
> 
>  
> 
> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
> 
>  
> 
> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
> 
>  
> 
> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
> 
>  
> 
> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
> 
> 


Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Description: 

Re: [newbie] REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE

[Ron Marriage]

Why not send this about 200 times to the idiots that sent
those posts.
That way they will know how to get off the list for sure.

Ron


> Thomas Cox wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For all those who can't figure out how to get removed,
> here is some clipped info from the email that was sent to
> everyone when they signed up to this newsgroup:
> 
> 
> If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing
> list,you can send mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> with the following command in the body of your email
> message:
> 
> unsubscribe newbie
> 
> or from another account, besides (your original email
> address):
> 
> unsubscribe newbie (your other email address)
> 
>  If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the
> list,
> 
> (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions
> about the
> 
> list itself) send email to
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .
> 
> This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you
> need
> 
> to contact a human.
> 
> 
> 
> Hope that helps,

-- 

Ron Marriage
E-Mailmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Homepage  http://www.seidata.com/~marriage

RE: [newbie] REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE

[Thomas Cox]

Hi,
 
For 
all those who can't figure out how to get removed, here is some clipped info 
from the email that was sent to everyone when they signed up to this 
newsgroup:


If you ever want to remove 
yourself from this mailing list,you can send mail to 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the following command in the body of your email message:
unsubscribe newbie
or from another account, 
besides (your original email 
address):
unsubscribe newbie (your other email 
address)
 If you ever need to get in 
contact with the owner of the list,
(if you have trouble unsubscribing, or 
have questions about the
list itself) send email to 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .
This is the general rule for most 
mailing lists when you need
to contact a human.

Hope 
that helps,

Re: [[newbie] REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE]

[Michael Scottaline]

"Wayne Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> - 
>   Attachment:  
>   MIME Type: multipart/alternative 
> - 
> REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!
> 
> ! PLEASE REMOVE MY ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST !!

===
Reconsider???


Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
http://webmail.netscape.com.

Re: [newbie] remove from mailing list

[PadLocke]

Why noo... No I don't. BUT I have Yoohooed on occasion, does that count?


On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
> Please remove my name from the mailing list.
> 
> Thank You
> 
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
--
PadLocke the Ogre
There are three types of people in this world...
those who can count, and those who can't

RE: [newbie] remove

[Kenny Barrett]

remove

 -Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  On Behalf Of Michel Rene de Cotret
Sent:   Wednesday, November 10, 1999 9:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] remove

remove

Re: [newbie] remove

[Ted]

remove

RE: [newbie] remove

[R. 'Trebor' Groves]

If only I could track 'um down... you wish to be removed? removed you'll
be...  (a take off on a great Garry Chandelling - Rip Torn segway on the
Larry Sanders Show)

:o)

Unless I'm mistaken, aren't removal requests supposed to go to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and the message text, no subject needed, be: unsubscribe newbie
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ???


R.'Trebor' Groves




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] remove



remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie] remove

[Joseph S. Gardner]

Earl Karch wrote:

> remove

I'd love to but you keep coming back

8-)
--
Joseph S. Gardner
Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie] remove

[Michael Doyle]

G'day

I can only remove you if you are in Australia, as my truck does not go well
across water.



On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, you wrote:
> remove
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   We know that communication is a problem, but the company is not
>   going to discuss it with the employees."
>   (Switching supervisor, AT&T Long  Lines Division)
-- 
Michael Doyle
Adelaide, South Australia
ICQ #2635762
http://landofoz.apana.org.au

RE: [newbie] remove

[Ken Wilson]

Me too?

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of terry
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 8:33 AM
> To: newbie-lilnux
> Subject: [newbie] remove
>
>
>
> remove
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   We know that communication is a problem, but the company is not
>   going to discuss it with the employees."
>   (Switching supervisor, AT&T Long  Lines Division)
>
>

Re: [newbie] remove

[Michael Doyle]

OK I get the truck out and be right around.

On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, you wrote:
> remove
-- 
Michael Doyle
Adelaide, South Australia
ICQ #2635762
http://landofoz.apana.org.au

Re: [[newbie] remove]

[Steve Philp]

Michael Scottaline wrote:
> 
> Alex Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> remove
> 
> I believe white vinegar is most effective at removing dog urine stains.  Will
> one of the gurus correct me if I'm wrong..!?

Oh, come on, everyone knows a little club soda will take that right
out...  
-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [[newbie] remove]

[Michael Scottaline]

Alex Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
remove

I believe white vinegar is most effective at removing dog urine stains.  Will
one of the gurus correct me if I'm wrong..!?

++
Michael Scottaline

COL 2.2   Linux 2.2.5
* * * * * * * * * * * 
It's a fresh wind that Blows Against the Empire



Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
http://webmail.netscape.com.

Re: [newbie] remove

[D.Vaughn]

BOB, the whole idea here is to be nice and share informationnot be a
jerk


- Original Message -
From: Bob Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] remove


> "D.Vaughn" wrote:
> >
> > Looks like he is looking for the same thing I am...how do you get
> > removed from this list.
> >
> If you (and he) weren't too lazy to go to Mandrake.com, click on
> lists,
> and read a little instead of expecting someone else to do
> your research, then you'd know how to get off the list and
> we wouldn't have to listen to you whine.
>
> Bob Jackson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Michael Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 10:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] remove
> >
> > > what
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: Rick Knospler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, 13 September 1999 12:22
> > > Subject: [newbie] remove
> > >
> > >
> > > > remove
> > >
>

Re: [newbie] remove

[Bob Jackson]

"D.Vaughn" wrote:
> 
> Looks like he is looking for the same thing I am...how do you get
> removed from this list.
> 
If you (and he) weren't too lazy to go to Mandrake.com, click on
lists,
and read a little instead of expecting someone else to do
your research, then you'd know how to get off the list and
we wouldn't have to listen to you whine.

Bob Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> - Original Message -
> From: Michael Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 10:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] remove
> 
> > what
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Rick Knospler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, 13 September 1999 12:22
> > Subject: [newbie] remove
> >
> >
> > > remove
> >

Re: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition

[Brian Erikson]

Bob,
I have had this happen twice and found that I had to start the install
over
again and use fdisk or cfdisk to remove/delete the offending
partitions.  
DOS/fdisk and PM will not be able to do so.  It might be a good idea to
abort the
installation after deleting the partitions and boot up DOS or run PM and
verify that all is well before starting the installation again.  If you
use
Disk Druid or Linux fdisk to mess with partitions in an extended
partition it
seems to cause the problem so I install the primary root partition
outside of
any extended partition.

Brian in Fremont

Bob wrote:
> 
> I was installing Linux on a second partition on a second harddrive.  After
> I built the Linux partition layout using Druid, it took and error trying to
> write the new partition information and told me I needed to reboot in order
> to continue the install.
> 
> Now I cannot get Linux to finish the install.  It fails right after it asks
> which drive to install from.  I want to remove the Linux partition and
> restart the install but I can't get rid of it.  Partition Magic says there
> is no partition there.  FDISK says there is an extended partition with
> logical drive but when I try to delete the logical drive so I can delete
> the partition, FDISK says there are no logocal drive.
> 
> Anyone have a program that can remove a partition no matter what?
> 
> __
> Thanks, Bob
> HoP 4 Life
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/
> ICQ: 5760810
> AOLIM: bobifmd
> 
> National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com
> House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com
> WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com
> 
> Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone
> 
> _
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: [newbie] remove

[D.Vaughn]

Looks like he is looking for the same thing I am...how do you get
removed from this list.




- Original Message -
From: Michael Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] remove


> what
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Rick Knospler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, 13 September 1999 12:22
> Subject: [newbie] remove
>
>
> > remove
>

Re: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition

[James Richards]

This seems to be related to Win98/95 and their possessive view of the
partition table [not really a disk-guru so I don't know the low level
particulars].
I had no luck using LILO in conjunction with Win98 and I eventually went to
using System Commander.  The best installation order I know of is:

wipe all partitions [i know, i know, it sucks]
using fdisk create the Win98 partitions
  [meaning at least one DOS primary partition and probably a FAT32 partition
   for games, etc]
  - if you skip this step, then Win98 will try to take over the hard disk
completely
  - and you will have problems installing a non-MS OS on your disk [at least
I
 alway do]
install Win98 into the primary FAT 16 partition [I don't think System
Commander handles FAT32]

At this point you should have a single DOS primary partition and a FAT32
partition.
You should now be able to install Linux.  However, I would recommend using
System Commander:

install System Commander
use System Commander to install Linux

This was the only way I could keep Linux and Win98 happy on the same box.
If
anyone knows another way around this, then I know some people who are
interested...
The only reason this works is because System Commander uses the Windows
partition to
store information about the other OSes.  If, magically, Win98 should corrupt
another OS's
boot information [yes, I once mysteriously lost a working Linux
installation], System Commander will go to the Windows partition to recover
the information [because that seems to be
somewhere that the corruption magically doesn't occur].

- Original Message -
From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition


>
> Yes, I have Win98!!!
>
>
> At 11:24 AM 9/13/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >This has happened to me twice using Disk Druid...Do you have Win98 on
your
> >box.
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:49 AM
> >Subject: [newbie] Remove partial Linux Partition
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I was installing Linux on a second partition on a second harddrive.
After
> >> I built the Linux partition layout using Druid, it took and error
trying
> >to
> >> write the new partition information and told me I needed to reboot in
> >order
> >> to continue the install.
> >>
> >> Now I cannot get Linux to finish the install.  It fails right after it
> >asks
> >> which drive to install from.  I want to remove the Linux partition and
> >> restart the install but I can't get rid of it.  Partition Magic says
there
> >> is no partition there.  FDISK says there is an extended partition with
> >> logical drive but when I try to delete the logical drive so I can
delete
> >> the partition, FDISK says there are no logocal drive.
> >>
> >> Anyone have a program that can remove a partition no matter what?
> >>
> >>
> >> __
> >> Thanks, Bob
> >> HoP 4 Life
> >>
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/
> >> ICQ: 5760810
> >> AOLIM: bobifmd
> >>
> >> National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com
> >> House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com
> >> WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com
> >>
> >> Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone
> >>
> >>
> >> _
> >> Do You Yahoo!?
> >> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> __
> Thanks, Bob
> HoP 4 Life
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/9239/
> ICQ: 5760810
> AOLIM: bobifmd
>
> National Wrestling League (NWL) - www.nwlwrestling.com
> House of Pain Wrestling Federation (HoPWF) - www.nwlwrestling.com
> WildSamoan ProWrestling Training Center - www.WildSamoan.com
>
> Declare your PC a Microsoft-free zone
>
>
> _
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>