RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!!
JM it is not to bad if you take it slow. The tricky part is knowing what options to compile into the Kernel. Once unzipped, and after you run make mrproper, you can run make config and determine what you want compiled into the kernel. IE Soundblaster support, PPP support, plug and play,IP masq.,etc The list of options is about 200 pages long. Really ! I would recommend you use the make xconfig command if you are using X windows. It is much easier and gives you a nice graphic summary of each item if you like. With "xcongfig" you will have to save it as a file name. I picked kernel-2.2.7. Once "configured" you run make dep make clean make zImage (or maybe make bzImage if it is a big kernel) make modules make modules_install When make zImage is done it will tell you what the new kernel name is. I renamed mine to kernel-2.2.7 and moved it to my "boot" directory. Edit a file called lilo.conf and change the line that shows the path to the old kernel to the new name (kernel-2.2.7). Save and at a shell, type lilo. You should be able to reboot and hopefully everything will work. There are several programs you need to upgrade to. There is a list at www.linuxhq.com/change22.html I received a couple errors on boot until I installed a couple of the updates. I think kernel-utils was one. I hope this helps. I am a newbie too SO if anyone see I am leading another newbie astray here, please chime in and set me straight... Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boon Kee Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!! How do you recompile the kernel? I am try to recompile linux 2.2.7 downloaded from the web. The readme file simply confuse me JM wrote: > Maybe you need sound support in the kernel? How did you install Mandrake? > Maybe you left something... Workstation installationi the best for me for now. > I remember I could not get sound once (messing with the system) and I just > rebuilded the kernel and when running sndconfig after that it worked. Maybe > your problem is different. > > On Thu, 13 May 1999, you wrote: > > yeah right. everything being "win" is the main reason i'm trying to get out > > of the microsoft lockdown. no the modem is an external netgear xm128 isdn > > modem, bri, standard all the way around. also the sound is quite tricky. > > this is the second card i've tried. both times sndconfig found the correct > > sound card but hangs when attempting to play the sample sound. i've tried > > manually installing it (sndconfig --noprobe) and tried many like and unlike > > cards(within sndconfig), all with different values. i cannot get the sound. > > i've reinstalled to no avail. if someone has an ensoniq pci 1371 chipset > > card (i think linux calls it creative\ensoniq 1371?) and it works fine, is > > there a way i could just use the settings you have? i don't know. this is my > > 3rd day with the os. > > > > thanks for any help. > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James J. Capone > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 11:15 PM > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > Subject: RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in > > > Mandrake---PLEASE!!! > > > > > > > > > Is your modem a WinModem > > > > > > James J. Capone > > > > > > Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux > > > Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com > > > Co-Author Linux for Newbies bundled with Linux-Mandrake. To Be > > > out in summer > > > "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In > > > The Apartment Next To Yours!" > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:16 PM, Glenn C. Ewen > > > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > > A buddy of mine gave me this linux-mandrake cd because I've always been > > > > interested in linux. Now I've installed it fine and even got my nic and > > > > printer to work but that's about it. I can't get my sound or > > > modem to work > > > > and I don't know my way around or anything. So I was wondering if anyone > > > > knew of a book I could get to help me along. I'm pretty > > > knowable with pc's > > > > if that helps. > > > > > > > > Thanks for any help given > > > > > > > > > > > > <--s3x---> > > >
RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!!
yeah right. everything being "win" is the main reason i'm trying to get out of the microsoft lockdown. no the modem is an external netgear xm128 isdn modem, bri, standard all the way around. also the sound is quite tricky. this is the second card i've tried. both times sndconfig found the correct sound card but hangs when attempting to play the sample sound. i've tried manually installing it (sndconfig --noprobe) and tried many like and unlike cards(within sndconfig), all with different values. i cannot get the sound. i've reinstalled to no avail. if someone has an ensoniq pci 1371 chipset card (i think linux calls it creative\ensoniq 1371?) and it works fine, is there a way i could just use the settings you have? i don't know. this is my 3rd day with the os. thanks for any help. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James J. Capone > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 11:15 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in > Mandrake---PLEASE!!! > > > Is your modem a WinModem > > James J. Capone > > Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux > Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com > Co-Author Linux for Newbies bundled with Linux-Mandrake. To Be > out in summer > "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In > The Apartment Next To Yours!" > > > On Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:16 PM, Glenn C. Ewen > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > A buddy of mine gave me this linux-mandrake cd because I've always been > > interested in linux. Now I've installed it fine and even got my nic and > > printer to work but that's about it. I can't get my sound or > modem to work > > and I don't know my way around or anything. So I was wondering if anyone > > knew of a book I could get to help me along. I'm pretty > knowable with pc's > > if that helps. > > > > Thanks for any help given > > > > > > <--s3x---> >
RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!!
Glenn C. Ewen [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said: >A buddy of mine gave me this linux-mandrake cd because I've always >been interested in linux. Now I've installed it fine and even got >my nic and printer to work but that's about it. I can't get my >sound or modem to work and I don't know my way around or anything. >So I was wondering if anyone knew of a book I could get to help me >along. I'm pretty knowable with pc's if that helps. See if running sndconfig to gets the soundcard working. Ensure that you don't have a "winmodem" or PCI modem. http://www.kc.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html If you have web access, try: Linux Newbie Administration Guide http://www.magma.ca/~bklimas/ The Newbie's Linux Manual http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~thebits/manual/linuxmanual.html Linux Installation and Getting Started http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/gs/gs.html The Linux Documentation Project http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/ Richard
RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!!
Maybe you need sound support in the kernel? How did you install Mandrake? Maybe you left something... Workstation installationi the best for me for now. I remember I could not get sound once (messing with the system) and I just rebuilded the kernel and when running sndconfig after that it worked. Maybe your problem is different. On Thu, 13 May 1999, you wrote: > yeah right. everything being "win" is the main reason i'm trying to get out > of the microsoft lockdown. no the modem is an external netgear xm128 isdn > modem, bri, standard all the way around. also the sound is quite tricky. > this is the second card i've tried. both times sndconfig found the correct > sound card but hangs when attempting to play the sample sound. i've tried > manually installing it (sndconfig --noprobe) and tried many like and unlike > cards(within sndconfig), all with different values. i cannot get the sound. > i've reinstalled to no avail. if someone has an ensoniq pci 1371 chipset > card (i think linux calls it creative\ensoniq 1371?) and it works fine, is > there a way i could just use the settings you have? i don't know. this is my > 3rd day with the os. > > thanks for any help. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James J. Capone > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 11:15 PM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in > > Mandrake---PLEASE!!! > > > > > > Is your modem a WinModem > > > > James J. Capone > > > > Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux > > Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com > > Co-Author Linux for Newbies bundled with Linux-Mandrake. To Be > > out in summer > > "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In > > The Apartment Next To Yours!" > > > > > > On Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:16 PM, Glenn C. Ewen > > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > A buddy of mine gave me this linux-mandrake cd because I've always been > > > interested in linux. Now I've installed it fine and even got my nic and > > > printer to work but that's about it. I can't get my sound or > > modem to work > > > and I don't know my way around or anything. So I was wondering if anyone > > > knew of a book I could get to help me along. I'm pretty > > knowable with pc's > > > if that helps. > > > > > > Thanks for any help given > > > > > > > > > <--s3x---> > >
Re: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!!
How do you recompile the kernel? I am try to recompile linux 2.2.7 downloaded from the web. The readme file simply confuse me JM wrote: > Maybe you need sound support in the kernel? How did you install Mandrake? > Maybe you left something... Workstation installationi the best for me for now. > I remember I could not get sound once (messing with the system) and I just > rebuilded the kernel and when running sndconfig after that it worked. Maybe > your problem is different. > > On Thu, 13 May 1999, you wrote: > > yeah right. everything being "win" is the main reason i'm trying to get out > > of the microsoft lockdown. no the modem is an external netgear xm128 isdn > > modem, bri, standard all the way around. also the sound is quite tricky. > > this is the second card i've tried. both times sndconfig found the correct > > sound card but hangs when attempting to play the sample sound. i've tried > > manually installing it (sndconfig --noprobe) and tried many like and unlike > > cards(within sndconfig), all with different values. i cannot get the sound. > > i've reinstalled to no avail. if someone has an ensoniq pci 1371 chipset > > card (i think linux calls it creative\ensoniq 1371?) and it works fine, is > > there a way i could just use the settings you have? i don't know. this is my > > 3rd day with the os. > > > > thanks for any help. > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James J. Capone > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 11:15 PM > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > Subject: RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in > > > Mandrake---PLEASE!!! > > > > > > > > > Is your modem a WinModem > > > > > > James J. Capone > > > > > > Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux > > > Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com > > > Co-Author Linux for Newbies bundled with Linux-Mandrake. To Be > > > out in summer > > > "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In > > > The Apartment Next To Yours!" > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:16 PM, Glenn C. Ewen > > > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > > A buddy of mine gave me this linux-mandrake cd because I've always been > > > > interested in linux. Now I've installed it fine and even got my nic and > > > > printer to work but that's about it. I can't get my sound or > > > modem to work > > > > and I don't know my way around or anything. So I was wondering if anyone > > > > knew of a book I could get to help me along. I'm pretty > > > knowable with pc's > > > > if that helps. > > > > > > > > Thanks for any help given > > > > > > > > > > > > <--s3x---> > > >
Re: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!!
How about running kisdn. I read in one of many FAQs or Howtos that this will help you set it up. Rip My brain is full. -Original Message- Glenn C. Ewen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >yeah right. everything being "win" is the main reason i'm trying to get out >of the microsoft lockdown. no the modem is an external netgear xm128 isdn >modem, bri, standard all the way around. also the sound is quite tricky.
Re: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!!
Boon Kee wrote: How do you recompile the kernel? I am try to recompile linux 2.2.7 downloaded from the web. Here is how I compile the kernel (In Mandrake, you have to install the source from the CD... Once you install the source from the cdrom: cd /linux/src/linux make xconfig then make sure you enable sound support for whatever card you have and sound in general. Once youre done configuring,save and exit. THEN make dep; make; clean; make boot THEN cd /usr/src/linux make mudules move the module directory to a new location: mv /lib/modules/2.0(whatever your version) /lib/modules/2.0-old make modules_install After a while. cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /boot cat using pico for example or midnight commander and go to /etc/lilo.conf then change (there are only 4 lines) the line label=linux to label=new (for example). An make sure that the line root=...has the right partition (probably has it). SAve Then install lilo: /sbin/lilo Reboot and is done. IT sounds difficult but you have to do it only once and you can have your machine configure just for you. Macintosh is easier at first but it crashes all the time. I guess the process is similar to adding extensions in a mac or drivers in a pc. Linus has never crashed for me. Which makes it difficult for me to learn more (once you have it configured, it is so stable you forget what you've learn becasue there is nothing else to do) Maybe somebody can post where exactly is the source in the CD-ROM. Good luck
RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!!
you know i choose custom install because of my network(i wanted windows and netware connectivity) but i'll go throug the install again and try just workstation installation. maybe(hopefully) that will do it. as for the modem tip (use kisdn) thank you. where you guys learn all this stuff is a mystery to me. send me the book. thanks again. <--s3x--> > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boon Kee > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 10:27 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in > Mandrake---PLEASE!!! > > > How do you recompile the kernel? I am try to recompile linux > 2.2.7 downloaded from > the web. > > The readme file simply confuse me > > JM wrote: > > > Maybe you need sound support in the kernel? How did you > install Mandrake? > > Maybe you left something... Workstation installationi the best > for me for now. > > I remember I could not get sound once (messing with the system) > and I just > > rebuilded the kernel and when running sndconfig after that it > worked. Maybe > > your problem is different. > > > > On Thu, 13 May 1999, you wrote: > > > yeah right. everything being "win" is the main reason i'm > trying to get out > > > of the microsoft lockdown. no the modem is an external > netgear xm128 isdn > > > modem, bri, standard all the way around. also the sound is > quite tricky. > > > this is the second card i've tried. both times sndconfig > found the correct > > > sound card but hangs when attempting to play the sample > sound. i've tried > > > manually installing it (sndconfig --noprobe) and tried many > like and unlike > > > cards(within sndconfig), all with different values. i cannot > get the sound. > > > i've reinstalled to no avail. if someone has an ensoniq pci > 1371 chipset > > > card (i think linux calls it creative\ensoniq 1371?) and it > works fine, is > > > there a way i could just use the settings you have? i don't > know. this is my > > > 3rd day with the os. > > > > > > thanks for any help. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James J. Capone > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 11:15 PM > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > Subject: RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone > knowledgeable in > > > > Mandrake---PLEASE!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Is your modem a WinModem > > > > > > > > James J. Capone > > > > > > > > Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux > > > > Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com > > > > Co-Author Linux for Newbies bundled with Linux-Mandrake. To Be > > > > out in summer > > > > "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In > > > > The Apartment Next To Yours!" > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:16 PM, Glenn C. Ewen > > > > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > > > A buddy of mine gave me this linux-mandrake cd because > I've always been > > > > > interested in linux. Now I've installed it fine and even > got my nic and > > > > > printer to work but that's about it. I can't get my sound or > > > > modem to work > > > > > and I don't know my way around or anything. So I was > wondering if anyone > > > > > knew of a book I could get to help me along. I'm pretty > > > > knowable with pc's > > > > > if that helps. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any help given > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <--s3x---> > > > > > > >
