Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
> I agree W2K is the best windblows distro, my friends who have XP rate it > poorly, Waitjusadamnminute... :( calling w2k or anything windows a "distro" is going way too far. it's a homogeneous OS with *very* little in the way of additional software. it's like calling a 2 sided 45 rpm record an 'album' :) > John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
Ken Walker wrote: Xperience -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Fox Sent: 29 March 2003 4:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; robin Subject: Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake? XP is a piece of crap, ME is a piece of crap, W95 and W98 were pieces of crap, but W2K is not a piece of crap. When they did W2K they did something right, and even some of my hardest-core Solaris/BSD droogies admit grudgingly that W2K was a break from the mold. Re: Mandrake: I fervently hope it lives forever because I happen to really like it and of all the distros I've installed, I think it's the friendliest. I know that doesn't carry much weight in this community and I don't mean it in the sense of "just click" and " you don't have to read any books" or even "watch the pretty lights, kid"; I mean Mandrake makes me want to get more involved, while others like Debian seem to have a deliberately high barrier to entry for the newbie. I agree W2K is the best windblows distro, my friends who have XP rate it poorly, but W98 2nd ed. is not so bad really. Mostly let down by it's file system. I hope Mandrake can servive it is badly needed. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
Xperience
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 29 March 2003 4:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; robin
Subject: Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
On Thursday 20 March 2003 02:33 pm, robin wrote:
> By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for? Where I come
> from, it means "experience points", but that can't be it, because in any
> decent RPG, you don't get experience points for stabbing other party
> members in the back ("Paranoia" being a wonderful exception that really
> captures the atmosphere of the IT world).
>
> And please don't answer that question by saying "RTFM". We ain' gon'
> read no steenking Weendows manuel.
XP is a piece of crap, ME is a piece of crap, W95 and W98 were pieces of
crap,
but W2K is not a piece of crap. When they did W2K they did something right,
and even some of my hardest-core Solaris/BSD droogies admit grudgingly that
W2K was a break from the mold.
Re: Mandrake: I fervently hope it lives forever because I happen to really
like it and of all the distros I've installed, I think it's the friendliest.
I know that doesn't carry much weight in this community and I don't mean it
in the sense of "just click" and " you don't have to read any books" or even
"watch the pretty lights, kid"; I mean Mandrake makes me want to get more
involved, while others like Debian seem to have a deliberately high barrier
to entry for the newbie.
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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
On Thursday 20 March 2003 02:33 pm, robin wrote:
> By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for? Where I come
> from, it means "experience points", but that can't be it, because in any
> decent RPG, you don't get experience points for stabbing other party
> members in the back ("Paranoia" being a wonderful exception that really
> captures the atmosphere of the IT world).
>
> And please don't answer that question by saying "RTFM". We ain' gon'
> read no steenking Weendows manuel.
XP is a piece of crap, ME is a piece of crap, W95 and W98 were pieces of crap,
but W2K is not a piece of crap. When they did W2K they did something right,
and even some of my hardest-core Solaris/BSD droogies admit grudgingly that
W2K was a break from the mold.
Re: Mandrake: I fervently hope it lives forever because I happen to really
like it and of all the distros I've installed, I think it's the friendliest.
I know that doesn't carry much weight in this community and I don't mean it
in the sense of "just click" and " you don't have to read any books" or even
"watch the pretty lights, kid"; I mean Mandrake makes me want to get more
involved, while others like Debian seem to have a deliberately high barrier
to entry for the newbie.
--
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Server Developer
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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
the "XP" is short for
Windows eXPerience, at least that's what Bill Gates said at the Kickoff.
Mudder
At 10:53 AM 3/22/2003 +0100, you wrote:
On Saturday 22 March 2003 04:40 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> --- robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I hope so. Just as long as they don't start giving
> > releases silly names like "Mandrake Millenium" or
> > "Mandrake PX".
> >
> > By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand
> > for? Where I come from, it means "experience points",
> > but that can't be it, because in any decent RPG, you
> > don't get experience points for stabbing other party
> > members in the back ("Paranoia" being a wonderful
> > exception that really captures the atmosphere of the IT
> > world).
> >
> > Sir Robin
>
> eXcrement Packaged
>
> --LX
That makes sense : their next release is named *longhorny*
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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
> I'm sure another company or group of volunteers will take it up and make > a new distro called, I dunno, Ginseng Linux, maybe. Sure, and then some weed freak from the (misguided) herbs and so-called "natural"/homeopathic medicine group sues. :) About the XP thing: I just thought about it, and maybe it's not really supposed to stand for anything, besides added marketing hype. Lately here in the US, there's been a trend to add random, seemingly meaningless extra letters to a product's name and it's mothing but market-speak. It first became popular with car tires and has spread into other markets, such as over-the-counter or prescription drugs. > America there are more geek-savvy investors). A foundation seems like a > better way to run a Free software project, as the FSF, GNU and Debian As experience with 386bsd/netbsd/freebsd has shown, that model can fractionalize as well and get bogged down with "political" issues - this does seem to be the case with the splits in the BSD camp. I'm not saying at all that Debian will do this, though. > have done (I admit this also has its problems, since such foundations > can become isolated from end-users - I didn't go down the Debian It seems that Debian may be more difficult, and I wouldn't recommend it either to a linux newbie. > long and prospers, but if it doesn't, the software will live on. You > can't keep a good idea down. Certainly it will. But with a good set of standards in place which I think already might exist, it shouldn't matter so much what distribution I install -- in other words, do we need packages for Mandrake, Debian, Red Hat, etc., etc.,? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
> I hope so. Just as long as they don't start giving releases silly names > like "Mandrake Millenium" or "Mandrake PX". Well, they could start using Roman numerals a la Superbowls. :) I really was expecting Superbowl XXX to be renamed Superbowl 30 here in the US, in order to dissasociate it with pornography (i.e., the "other" XXX) - nevver happened. :) > By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for? Where I come > from, it means "experience points", but that can't be it, because in any eXtra Pricey Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
--- robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I hope so. Just as long as they don't start giving releases silly names
> like "Mandrake Millenium" or "Mandrake PX".
>
> By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for? Where I come
> from, it means "experience points", but that can't be it, because in any
> decent RPG, you don't get experience points for stabbing other party
> members in the back ("Paranoia" being a wonderful exception that really
> captures the atmosphere of the IT world).
>
> Sir Robin
>
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XP stands for eXPerience... For myself, it stands for eXPen$ive...
Albert Charron
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From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:51, Frankie wrote:
>
>>normally never..
>>
>>I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user accounts (not all
>>root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like..
>>my main question is mdk's future.. I don't care really how they rate to
>>mags.. I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10
>>rgds
>>
>>Frank
>
>
> I think there will be a Mandrake 11, mate...
I hope so. Just as long as they don't start giving releases silly names
like "Mandrake Millenium" or "Mandrake PX".
By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for? Where I come
from, it means "experience points", but that can't be it, because in any
decent RPG, you don't get experience points for stabbing other party
members in the back ("Paranoia" being a wonderful exception that really
captures the atmosphere of the IT world).
And please don't answer that question by saying "RTFM". We ain' gon'
read no steenking Weendows manuel.
Sir Robin
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mean that a bag of raisins is better than a cake."
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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
On Thursday 20 March 2003 02:57 pm, Jonathan Shilling wrote:
> Robin,
> I think the "XP" in M$'s latest OS endevour is actually a shortened
> version of "XPOS" ie. "eXtreme Piece Of S**t" :D
> l8tr
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:33 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
> >
> > Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:51, Frankie wrote:
> > >>normally never..
> > >>
> > >>I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user
> >
> > accounts (not all
> >
> > >>root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like..
> > >>my main question is mdk's future.. I don't care really how
> >
> > they rate to
> >
> > >>mags.. I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10
> > >>rgds
> > >>
> > >>Frank
> > >
> > > I think there will be a Mandrake 11, mate...
> >
> > I hope so. Just as long as they don't start giving releases
> > silly names
> > like "Mandrake Millenium" or "Mandrake PX".
> >
> > By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for?
> > Where I come
> > from, it means "experience points", but that can't be it,
> > because in any
> > decent RPG, you don't get experience points for stabbing other party
> > members in the back ("Paranoia" being a wonderful exception
> > that really
> > captures the atmosphere of the IT world).
> >
> > And please don't answer that question by saying "RTFM". We ain' gon'
> > read no steenking Weendows manuel.
> >
> > Sir Robin
> >
> >
> > --
> > "The raisins may be the best part of a cake, but that doesn't
> > mean that a bag of raisins is better than a cake."
> > - Wittgenstein
> >
> > Robin Turner
> > IDMYO
> > Bilkent Univeritesi
> > Ankara 06533
> > Turkey
> >
> > www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin
I thought XP stood for eXtreem Profits
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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
On Thursday 20 March 2003 06:34 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Thursday March 20 2003 04:33 pm, robin wrote: > > By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for? > > Xtra Proprietary XPectorate as in "to spit" -- Linux counter number 167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
On Thursday 20 March 2003 03:33 pm, robin wrote: > By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for? Expect Problems -- Peter Pankonin, digitalcrucible Registered Linux User 246938 There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
On Thursday March 20 2003 04:33 pm, robin wrote: > By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for? Xtra Proprietary -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
Frankie wrote: Hi guys, I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge linux article comparing all the major distros for desktop use... They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others) Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely to be mandrakes last distro.. they said mandrake had committed to 9.1 but after that all bets are off.. Anyone know if thats true?? is there some mdk release that I have failed to read?? I hope like hell I don't have to go elsewhere, but if I do, it might as well be sooner rather then later They rated Mandrake behind Lindows and Lycoris? Lycoris is bare! You get very little. Plus the applications are outdated. It's good for newbies coming from Windows. Lindows has no security, since all users have root rights and you have to pay for programs that come free with the other distros. It is a terrible buy for the money. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
On Thursday 20 March 2003 05:33 pm, robin wrote: > > By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for? eXPerience -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
> By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for? X stands for "cra". Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 09:33, robin wrote:
> Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:51, Frankie wrote:
> >
> >>normally never..
> >>
> >>I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user accounts (not all
> >>root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like..
> >>my main question is mdk's future.. I don't care really how they rate to
> >>mags.. I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10
> >>rgds
> >>
> >>Frank
> >
> > I think there will be a Mandrake 11, mate...
>
> I hope so. Just as long as they don't start giving releases silly names
> like "Mandrake Millenium" or "Mandrake PX".
>
...or Mandrake Warp3? Or, how about, Mandrake Zarathrusta? Mandrake
Concorde? Mandrake Mushroom? Mandrake Sooperdooper II? Mandrake Muon?
Mandrake SS?
> By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for? Where I come
> from, it means "experience points", but that can't be it, because in any
> decent RPG, you don't get experience points for stabbing other party
> members in the back ("Paranoia" being a wonderful exception that really
> captures the atmosphere of the IT world).
>
Extra Pretty? - Actually, it's supposed to stand for "Experience" - and
after 10 years, that's all it's got...mind you, it IS, by far, the best
Windows that has come out - but still has 10 year old bugs in it and
heaps bloated code...
> And please don't answer that question by saying "RTFM". We ain' gon'
> read no steenking Weendows manuel.
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RE: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
Robin,
I think the "XP" in M$'s latest OS endevour is actually a shortened
version of "XPOS" ie. "eXtreme Piece Of S**t" :D
l8tr
> -Original Message-
> From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
>
>
> Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:51, Frankie wrote:
> >
> >>normally never..
> >>
> >>I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user
> accounts (not all
> >>root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like..
> >>my main question is mdk's future.. I don't care really how
> they rate to
> >>mags.. I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10
> >>rgds
> >>
> >>Frank
> >
> >
> > I think there will be a Mandrake 11, mate...
>
> I hope so. Just as long as they don't start giving releases
> silly names
> like "Mandrake Millenium" or "Mandrake PX".
>
> By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for?
> Where I come
> from, it means "experience points", but that can't be it,
> because in any
> decent RPG, you don't get experience points for stabbing other party
> members in the back ("Paranoia" being a wonderful exception
> that really
> captures the atmosphere of the IT world).
>
> And please don't answer that question by saying "RTFM". We ain' gon'
> read no steenking Weendows manuel.
>
> Sir Robin
>
>
> --
> "The raisins may be the best part of a cake, but that doesn't
> mean that a bag of raisins is better than a cake."
> - Wittgenstein
>
> Robin Turner
> IDMYO
> Bilkent Univeritesi
> Ankara 06533
> Turkey
>
> www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin
>
>
>
>
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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:51, Frankie wrote:
normally never..
I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user accounts (not all
root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like..
my main question is mdk's future.. I don't care really how they rate to
mags.. I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10
rgds
Frank
I think there will be a Mandrake 11, mate...
I hope so. Just as long as they don't start giving releases silly names
like "Mandrake Millenium" or "Mandrake PX".
By the way, what does the "XP" in "Windows XP" stand for? Where I come
from, it means "experience points", but that can't be it, because in any
decent RPG, you don't get experience points for stabbing other party
members in the back ("Paranoia" being a wonderful exception that really
captures the atmosphere of the IT world).
And please don't answer that question by saying "RTFM". We ain' gon'
read no steenking Weendows manuel.
Sir Robin
--
"The raisins may be the best part of a cake, but that doesn't
mean that a bag of raisins is better than a cake."
- Wittgenstein
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Turkey
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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
Frankie wrote: normally never.. I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user accounts (not all root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like.. my main question is mdk's future.. I don't care really how they rate to mags.. I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10 I wouldn't worry. Even if Mandrake goes bust, the code is all GPLed, so I'm sure another company or group of volunteers will take it up and make a new distro called, I dunno, Ginseng Linux, maybe. Actually, I'm not sure if the limited company model is the best way to go for distributions. It usually means getting venture capitalists involved, and as we've seen in the case of Mandrake, they often don't have a good idea of the realities of the Free Software world (maybe in America there are more geek-savvy investors). A foundation seems like a better way to run a Free software project, as the FSF, GNU and Debian have done (I admit this also has its problems, since such foundations can become isolated from end-users - I didn't go down the Debian route because when I first chose a distro, I downloaded the Debian installation guide and couldn't make head nor tail of it, so went for Redhat - and in those days, Redhat wasn't what you'd call user-friendly either). Anyway, the important point is that Mandrake isn't the company, it's the software and the community that supports it. I hope the company lives long and prospers, but if it doesn't, the software will live on. You can't keep a good idea down. Sir Robin -- "The raisins may be the best part of a cake, but that doesn't mean that a bag of raisins is better than a cake." - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:51, Frankie wrote: > normally never.. > > I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user accounts (not all > root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like.. > my main question is mdk's future.. I don't care really how they rate to > mags.. I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10 > rgds > > Frank I think there will be a Mandrake 11, mate... -- Fri Mar 21 08:50:00 EST 2003 08:50:00 up 2 days, 10:35, 4 users, load average: 0.13, 0.08, 0.02 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought. -- Simon Cameron There are honest journalists like there are honest politicians. When bought they stay bought. -- Bill Moyers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
normally never.. I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user accounts (not all root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like.. my main question is mdk's future.. I don't care really how they rate to mags.. I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10 rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of et Sent: Friday, 21 March 2003 4:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake? On Thursday 20 March 2003 11:10 am, Frankie wrote: > Hi guys, > > I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge linux > article comparing all the major distros for desktop use... > > They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind > lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others) > > Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely to be mandrakes > last distro.. they said mandrake had committed to 9.1 but after that all > bets are off.. > > > Anyone know if thats true?? is there some mdk release that I have failed > to read?? > > I hope like hell I don't have to go elsewhere, but if I do, it might as > well be sooner rather then later > > > Any info would be much appreciated. > > > rgds > > Franki Now, when did you start believing anyone that rates lindows as better than MDK? -- Linux counter number 167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
On Thursday 20 March 2003 11:10 am, Frankie wrote: > Hi guys, > > I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge linux > article comparing all the major distros for desktop use... > > They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind > lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others) > > Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely to be mandrakes > last distro.. they said mandrake had committed to 9.1 but after that all > bets are off.. > > > Anyone know if thats true?? is there some mdk release that I have failed > to read?? > > I hope like hell I don't have to go elsewhere, but if I do, it might as > well be sooner rather then later > > > Any info would be much appreciated. > > > rgds > > Franki Now, when did you start believing anyone that rates lindows as better than MDK? -- Linux counter number 167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 03:42, robin wrote: > Frankie wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge linux > > article comparing all the major distros for desktop use... > > > > They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind > > lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others) > > Behind Lindows? Whoo. Did they put it behind Windows XP as well? > > Sir Robin Remember that APC is far from being an authority on linux - they're a great mag, but not linux literate - or at least they're TRYING to be...but they're not a good judge of distros... -- Fri Mar 21 06:35:01 EST 2003 06:35:01 up 2 days, 8:20, 4 users, load average: 0.10, 0.08, 0.10 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent. -- Wittgenstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 03:10, Frankie wrote: > Hi guys, > I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge linux > article comparing all the major distros for desktop use... > They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind > lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others) > Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely to be mandrakes > last distro.. they said mandrake had committed to 9.1 but after that all > bets are off.. > Anyone know if thats true?? is there some mdk release that I have failed to > read?? > I hope like hell I don't have to go elsewhere, but if I do, it might as well > be sooner rather then later > Any info would be much appreciated. > rgds > Franki The distro has been standing well enough so far, and with the release of Mandrake 9.1, I think they're going to be scoring quite a bit higher than any of the other releases - RH 8.1, if it's going to be anything, has to be far ahead of RH 8.0 - far ahead in order to get any better ratings. Either which, IMHO, MDK 9.1 is going to really raise a ruckus due to it's overall setup/installation/ease of use/kernel version/ability to deal with hardware/ability to deal with drivers; it really is a "polished" version - lacking the vast majority of problems that 9.0 had - hence it will live longer. Now, if the MandrakeSoft management kicks the bucket, that's a different story - but this is one of the best "customer maintained" distros. If they fold, it's their mistake, and hopefully the code will stick with the devs and the public... -- Fri Mar 21 06:30:01 EST 2003 06:30:01 up 2 days, 8:15, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.14, 0.14 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** I'm a GENIUS! I want to dispute sentence structure with SUSAN SONTAG!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
On Thursday 20 March 2003 05:10 pm, Frankie wrote: > Hi guys, > > I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and > they had a huge linux article comparing all the major > distros for desktop use... > > They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as > redhat8 and behind lycros and the latest lindows, but > ahead of SUSE and all the others) > > Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely > to be mandrakes last distro.. they said mandrake had > committed to 9.1 but after that all bets are off.. > > > Anyone know if thats true?? is there some mdk release > that I have failed to read?? > > I hope like hell I don't have to go elsewhere, but if I > do, it might as well be sooner rather then later > > > Any info would be much appreciated. > > > rgds > > Franki Franki, depending on what magazine you read you'll get different opinions. I don't know that *APC-mag*, but judging from the statements above the author knows next to nothing about linux. You see : Lindows and Lycoris are *discount* , down-scaled versions of linux, not full distro's. Furthermore they are not *true* linuxes (for example, when you log into one of those, you'll have root-privileges, thus omitting one of the major benefits of linux : security !). If you really want to compare distros, go to : http://www.distrowatch.com that'll change your mind. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.0 - kernel 2.4.19.24 Brought to you from my 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
No, Frankie, that's a load of crap. Miark On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:10:08 +0800 "Frankie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely to be mandrakes > last distro.. they said mandrake had committed to 9.1 but after that all > bets are off.. > > Anyone know if thats true?? is there some mdk release that I have failed to > read?? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
Frankie wrote: Hi guys, I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge linux article comparing all the major distros for desktop use... They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others) Behind Lindows? Whoo. Did they put it behind Windows XP as well? Sir Robin -- "The raisins may be the best part of a cake, but that doesn't mean that a bag of raisins is better than a cake." - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 20 March 2003 11:10, Frankie wrote: > Hi guys, > > I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge linux > article comparing all the major distros for desktop use... > > They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind > lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others) > > Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely to be mandrakes > last distro.. they said mandrake had committed to 9.1 but after that all > bets are off.. > > > Anyone know if thats true?? is there some mdk release that I have failed > to read?? That is misinformation. I invite you to look at the long threads on the cooker mailing list about feature requests for 9.2 which Mandrake developers themselves have started and are engaged in. Best, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+eewPgzJdfX+cTW8RAlH+AJ4g8f5NOip3tv1ybxGyHcMkvQ45AwCeMb01 mp62cT1JNq2qYVYtc7pSLz4= =Dfvi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
