Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
That worked, hyper threading is enabled. I do not know if there were increases in the speed. From, Steven From: et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading. Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 11:51:28 + On Monday 29 December 2003 11:27 am, Steven Nelson wrote: > Hi, based on the replies you all sent I have a couple questions. I write > them in order, based on the importance or being more likely to be or fix > the problem, 1- . One being the first concern. The questions are listed in > order of what needs to be done first, based on my judgement. > > 1.(3 questions) > I have read the information in your replies. The question I have is, is > there another way to enable hyper threading besides the using the smp > kernel or updating to 2.6 kernel? no, but is easier than you think. but does require a reboot, and reconfig of NVidia (if used) drivers. >Generally there are commands to enable > features like hyper threading. not like hyperthreading. > Are you sure there is not a command or > something like it? Also is there a command I can run from the command line > to make sure hyper threading is not enabled? ctrl+alt+ f2 will get you to a differnet console that should list the kernel used when it asks for a login, if it says smp,,, you are doing it. or you could as root in a text console do cat /proc/interrupts and it should list 2 cpus if you are using > I don't think it is, just to > be sure though (I didn't notice the penguins during installation). they do it durring boot up,,, and you should have an smp choice in the lilo or grub boot up screen, > 2.(no questions) > I did not notice one or two penguins during the installation. what about boot up? > I also wrote > this above, although if there are any commands it would be helpful to be > 100% sure ht is enabled. I do not think it is. when you get it running,, let me know if you see any change in speed of any app. > 3.(3 questions) > If there is not a way to get hyper threading to work with the regular > kernel, is all that needs to be done is boot from the smp kernel? Will > booting from that kernel work? Is there anything else that needs to be done > to get hyperthreading enabled in Linux besides booting from the smp kernel? nope > 4.(2 questions) > I already installed the kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, so if you > install 2.6 kernel the same way, it shouldn't be a problem. Would I need to > use the smp kernel? Would I need to configure it to enable hyper threading? not sure about 2.6 just yet,,, but you will _have_ to boot from an smp or enterprise kernel to see 2 cpus. period. > > From, > > Steven > > _ > Have fun customizing MSN Messenger learn how here! > http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Expand your wine savvy and get some great new recipes at MSN Wine. http://wine.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
That worked, hyper threading is enabled. I do not know if there were increases in the speed. From, Steven From: et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading. Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 11:51:28 + On Monday 29 December 2003 11:27 am, Steven Nelson wrote: > Hi, based on the replies you all sent I have a couple questions. I write > them in order, based on the importance or being more likely to be or fix > the problem, 1- . One being the first concern. The questions are listed in > order of what needs to be done first, based on my judgement. > > 1.(3 questions) > I have read the information in your replies. The question I have is, is > there another way to enable hyper threading besides the using the smp > kernel or updating to 2.6 kernel? no, but is easier than you think. but does require a reboot, and reconfig of NVidia (if used) drivers. >Generally there are commands to enable > features like hyper threading. not like hyperthreading. > Are you sure there is not a command or > something like it? Also is there a command I can run from the command line > to make sure hyper threading is not enabled? ctrl+alt+ f2 will get you to a differnet console that should list the kernel used when it asks for a login, if it says smp,,, you are doing it. or you could as root in a text console do cat /proc/interrupts and it should list 2 cpus if you are using > I don't think it is, just to > be sure though (I didn't notice the penguins during installation). they do it durring boot up,,, and you should have an smp choice in the lilo or grub boot up screen, > 2.(no questions) > I did not notice one or two penguins during the installation. what about boot up? > I also wrote > this above, although if there are any commands it would be helpful to be > 100% sure ht is enabled. I do not think it is. when you get it running,, let me know if you see any change in speed of any app. > 3.(3 questions) > If there is not a way to get hyper threading to work with the regular > kernel, is all that needs to be done is boot from the smp kernel? Will > booting from that kernel work? Is there anything else that needs to be done > to get hyperthreading enabled in Linux besides booting from the smp kernel? nope > 4.(2 questions) > I already installed the kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, so if you > install 2.6 kernel the same way, it shouldn't be a problem. Would I need to > use the smp kernel? Would I need to configure it to enable hyper threading? not sure about 2.6 just yet,,, but you will _have_ to boot from an smp or enterprise kernel to see 2 cpus. period. > > From, > > Steven > > _ > Have fun customizing MSN Messenger learn how here! > http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Check your PC for viruses with the FREE McAfee online computer scan. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
On 12/29/2003 at 12:10 PM Steven Nelson wrote: >The hyper threading is enabled in BIOS. I will try booting from one of >those kernels. Is there a way to configure the default kernel so that that hyper >will work with it? Are there any type of configuration options that will >help with using ht and the enterprise or smp kernel? Thanks. > > Steven *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Nope,...not that I know of. In both questions - Nope. Someone else might have other info on the subject though. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
From: "Lanman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading. Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 06:41:10 -0500 On 12/29/2003 at 11:27 AM Steven Nelson wrote: >Hi, based on the replies you all sent I have a couple questions. I write >them in order, based on the importance or being more likely to be or fix >the >problem, 1- . One being the first concern. The questions are listed in >order >of what needs to be done first, based on my judgement. > >1.(3 questions) >I have read the information in your replies. The question I have is, is >there another way to enable hyper threading besides the using the smp >kernel >or updating to 2.6 kernel? Generally there are commands to enable features >like hyper threading. Are you sure there is not a command or something >like >it? Also is there a command I can run from the command line to make sure >hyper threading is not enabled? I don't think it is, just to be sure >though >(I didn't notice the penguins during installation). > >2.(no questions) >I did not notice one or two penguins during the installation. I also wrote >this above, although if there are any commands it would be helpful to be >100% sure ht is enabled. I do not think it is. > >3.(3 questions) >If there is not a way to get hyper threading to work with the regular >kernel, is all that needs to be done is boot from the smp kernel? Will >booting from that kernel work? Is there anything else that needs to be >done >to get hyperthreading enabled in Linux besides booting from the smp kernel? > >4.(2 questions) >I already installed the kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, so if you >install 2.6 kernel the same way, it shouldn't be a problem. Would I need >to >use the smp kernel? Would I need to configure it to enable hyper threading? > >Steven > *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Steven; Without knowing what motherboard you're running, I'm not sure if this will help or not, but I had to manually enable the "Hyper-Threading" option in my BIOS. After exiting the BIOS, my Asus board reports 2 Intel Pentium P4-2.8Mgz CPU's, instead of only 1. After that, it's just a question of booting from either the SMP or Enterprise kernels, both of which are able to detect and use multiple CPU's. Both kernels seems to handle everything nicely ( in Mandrake 9.2 ), and up come the two penguin icons during a text bootup. I have never seen them appear when launching a graphical version of LILO. One thing I've noticed though, is that for the first time, Mandrake actually runs faster than Windows 2000 now, where it has been consistently slower in the past, although not by much. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com The hyper threading is enabled in BIOS. I will try booting from one of those kernels. Is there a way to configure the default kernel so that that hyper will work with it? Are there any type of configuration options that will help with using ht and the enterprise or smp kernel? Thanks. From, Steven _ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
On Monday 29 December 2003 11:27 am, Steven Nelson wrote: > Hi, based on the replies you all sent I have a couple questions. I write > them in order, based on the importance or being more likely to be or fix > the problem, 1- . One being the first concern. The questions are listed in > order of what needs to be done first, based on my judgement. > > 1.(3 questions) > I have read the information in your replies. The question I have is, is > there another way to enable hyper threading besides the using the smp > kernel or updating to 2.6 kernel? no, but is easier than you think. but does require a reboot, and reconfig of NVidia (if used) drivers. >Generally there are commands to enable > features like hyper threading. not like hyperthreading. > Are you sure there is not a command or > something like it? Also is there a command I can run from the command line > to make sure hyper threading is not enabled? ctrl+alt+ f2 will get you to a differnet console that should list the kernel used when it asks for a login, if it says smp,,, you are doing it. or you could as root in a text console do cat /proc/interrupts and it should list 2 cpus if you are using > I don't think it is, just to > be sure though (I didn't notice the penguins during installation). they do it durring boot up,,, and you should have an smp choice in the lilo or grub boot up screen, > 2.(no questions) > I did not notice one or two penguins during the installation. what about boot up? > I also wrote > this above, although if there are any commands it would be helpful to be > 100% sure ht is enabled. I do not think it is. when you get it running,, let me know if you see any change in speed of any app. > 3.(3 questions) > If there is not a way to get hyper threading to work with the regular > kernel, is all that needs to be done is boot from the smp kernel? Will > booting from that kernel work? Is there anything else that needs to be done > to get hyperthreading enabled in Linux besides booting from the smp kernel? nope > 4.(2 questions) > I already installed the kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, so if you > install 2.6 kernel the same way, it shouldn't be a problem. Would I need to > use the smp kernel? Would I need to configure it to enable hyper threading? not sure about 2.6 just yet,,, but you will _have_ to boot from an smp or enterprise kernel to see 2 cpus. period. > > From, > > Steven > > _ > Have fun customizing MSN Messenger learn how here! > http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
On 12/29/2003 at 11:27 AM Steven Nelson wrote: >Hi, based on the replies you all sent I have a couple questions. I write >them in order, based on the importance or being more likely to be or fix >the >problem, 1- . One being the first concern. The questions are listed in >order >of what needs to be done first, based on my judgement. > >1.(3 questions) >I have read the information in your replies. The question I have is, is >there another way to enable hyper threading besides the using the smp >kernel >or updating to 2.6 kernel? Generally there are commands to enable features >like hyper threading. Are you sure there is not a command or something >like >it? Also is there a command I can run from the command line to make sure >hyper threading is not enabled? I don't think it is, just to be sure >though >(I didn't notice the penguins during installation). > >2.(no questions) >I did not notice one or two penguins during the installation. I also wrote >this above, although if there are any commands it would be helpful to be >100% sure ht is enabled. I do not think it is. > >3.(3 questions) >If there is not a way to get hyper threading to work with the regular >kernel, is all that needs to be done is boot from the smp kernel? Will >booting from that kernel work? Is there anything else that needs to be >done >to get hyperthreading enabled in Linux besides booting from the smp kernel? > >4.(2 questions) >I already installed the kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, so if you >install 2.6 kernel the same way, it shouldn't be a problem. Would I need >to >use the smp kernel? Would I need to configure it to enable hyper threading? > >Steven > *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Steven; Without knowing what motherboard you're running, I'm not sure if this will help or not, but I had to manually enable the "Hyper-Threading" option in my BIOS. After exiting the BIOS, my Asus board reports 2 Intel Pentium P4-2.8Mgz CPU's, instead of only 1. After that, it's just a question of booting from either the SMP or Enterprise kernels, both of which are able to detect and use multiple CPU's. Both kernels seems to handle everything nicely ( in Mandrake 9.2 ), and up come the two penguin icons during a text bootup. I have never seen them appear when launching a graphical version of LILO. One thing I've noticed though, is that for the first time, Mandrake actually runs faster than Windows 2000 now, where it has been consistently slower in the past, although not by much. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
Hi, based on the replies you all sent I have a couple questions. I write them in order, based on the importance or being more likely to be or fix the problem, 1- . One being the first concern. The questions are listed in order of what needs to be done first, based on my judgement. 1.(3 questions) I have read the information in your replies. The question I have is, is there another way to enable hyper threading besides the using the smp kernel or updating to 2.6 kernel? Generally there are commands to enable features like hyper threading. Are you sure there is not a command or something like it? Also is there a command I can run from the command line to make sure hyper threading is not enabled? I don't think it is, just to be sure though (I didn't notice the penguins during installation). 2.(no questions) I did not notice one or two penguins during the installation. I also wrote this above, although if there are any commands it would be helpful to be 100% sure ht is enabled. I do not think it is. 3.(3 questions) If there is not a way to get hyper threading to work with the regular kernel, is all that needs to be done is boot from the smp kernel? Will booting from that kernel work? Is there anything else that needs to be done to get hyperthreading enabled in Linux besides booting from the smp kernel? 4.(2 questions) I already installed the kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm, so if you install 2.6 kernel the same way, it shouldn't be a problem. Would I need to use the smp kernel? Would I need to configure it to enable hyper threading? From, Steven _ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 05:08:16 + "Steven Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am about 85% sure that Mandrake 9.2 has hyper threading support. If > Mandrake 9.2 does have hyper threading support will someone tell how > to enable it? Use the 2.6 kernel with HT technology enabled: http://kernel.org Instructions for building your own kernel can be found on google. Follow them carefully. If something goes wrong, your whole system could be fried. -- Sun Dec 28 18:29:57 CST 2003 -- Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
To see whether Linux recognize your HT: When installing, you'll see 2 penguins instead of 1. - Original Message - From: "Ramin M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading. > What is hyper threading? > Regards, Ramin > > --- Steven Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am about 85% sure > that Mandrake 9.2 has hyper threading support. If > > > > Mandrake 9.2 does have hyper threading support will someone tell how > > to > > enable it? > > > > > >From, > > > > > > Steven > > > > _ > > Expand your wine savvy - and get some great new recipes - at MSN > > Wine. > > http://wine.msn.com > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > __ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.554 / Virus Database: 346 - Release Date: 12/20/2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
On Sunday 28 Dec 2003 11:05 pm, Ramin M wrote: > What is hyper threading? The Pentium 4 has the ability to act as two separate processors at the same time. It's like having two Pentiums on the same motherboard, but a bit slower. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
What is hyper threading? Regards, Ramin --- Steven Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am about 85% sure that Mandrake 9.2 has hyper threading support. If > > Mandrake 9.2 does have hyper threading support will someone tell how > to > enable it? > > >From, > > > Steven > > _ > Expand your wine savvy and get some great new recipes at MSN > Wine. > http://wine.msn.com > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling hyper threading.
On Sunday 28 December 2003 05:08 am, Steven Nelson wrote: > I am about 85% sure that Mandrake 9.2 has hyper threading support. If > Mandrake 9.2 does have hyper threading support will someone tell how to > enable it? > >From, > > Steven > > _ > Expand your wine savvy and get some great new recipes at MSN Wine. > http://wine.msn.com boot from an SMP kernel, if you are talking about getting a p4 to look (and some say work) as 2 cpus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
