Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] java for root]

[Q.H. Wang]

>
> Result of "which java" as follows:
>
> which: no java in
> (/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbi
>n)
>

I guess this is the reason which means java is not in your path! You'd check 
where you installed JRE. When java is in your path the command "which java"'s 
gonna tell you the exact location of java.

Similarly what I got is 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] which java
/usr/bin/java
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ls /usr/bin/java -la
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 30 Feb  4 17:32 /usr/bin/java 
-> /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_01/bin/java*


I'm not sure what's going on with your /etc/profile. If you have exported the 
PATH you edited, it's out of my mind why it's not working. 

I didn't edit the /etc/profile, just simply made a symbol link to put the java  
(/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_01/bin/java) into /usr/bin (/usr/bin/java). I guess this 
way is more straightforward. 

Here is a link that you may have interest, especially the step 7 there.
http://jabref.sourceforge.net/installation.html

HTH.

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[Fwd: Re: [newbie] java for root]

[Jay Warwick]

 Forwarded Message 
> From: Q.H. Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] java for root
> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:16:41 +
> > I have installed jre1.5.0_01 and can use it as a user but not root. To
> > do this I added PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/bin/jre1.5.0_01/bin"
> > in /etc/profile.  Is this correct, what else do I need to do?
> 
> If you've followed the instructions from SUN for JRE installation, there 
> should be no any problem. I installed jre1.4.x and 1.5.x and jdk 1.5.x. All 
> of them worked perfectly.
> 
> For you problem, it might be a path problem, I guess. Are you sure it (java) 
> is in your root path? What do you get if you run "which java" as root?
> 
> Bests,
> 
> Q.H.
> 

Result of "which java" as follows:

which: no java in
(/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin)

This doesn't make sense to me as I have installed Java
within /usr/local/bin

If I remember rightly, there is another line required in /etc/profiles
to EXPORT_PATH.  Is this right, to what path if it is already installed
in /usr/local/bin?

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] java

[Graham Watkins]

Dave Needham wrote:
hi all.ive just dwnloaded java j2re-1_4_1_01 linux i586-rpm.bin
how do install it please.ive double clicked on it but nothing.

This may help (quoted from the readme file that helped with my own 
installation). Change details to match your own version no. of course.

 - Make the shell script executable
% chmod +x j2re-1.4.2-01-linux-.bin
  (Replace  with the architecture of your system, e.g.
  replace  with i586 if your on an Intel system.)
- Change to the directory you want to install into, e.g /usr/local
% cd /usr/local
- Extract the contents of the Java 2 SDK by running the shell 
script
% ./j2re-1.4.2-01-linux-.bin
  (Replace  with the architecture of your system, e.g.
  replace  with i586 if your on an Intel system.)
- Add j2re1.4.2/bin to PATH, e.g. if you installed into /usr/local
% export PATH=/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/bin:$PATH

Hope this helps.

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Re: [newbie] Java programming

[Jan Rubbrecht]

I usually just buy the books from amazon.com (or any other site that
sells books).
So far, I haven't found one good tutorial online that doesn't p*ss me
off because of lack of information, no good or complete explanation,
lack of teaching ability of the author etc.
On the book selling sites, you can make a good choice, read reviews
about the books, and they offer books in all price ranges.
Use a courier service though, coz ttpost often loses those shipments ;-)

PS. please check the reply-to address (newbie@linux-mandrake.com)

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:06:16 -0400, Charles Lee Ying
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> can someone pls identify himself/herself as a good java programmer.
> 
> I just want you to point me in the direction of a good tutorial for
> doing programming in graphics using Java. I've tried those provided by
> Sun, but they are mostly good for basic stuff and I need something a
> little more advanced that is especailly focused on graphics and not
> general Java topics.
> 
> charles
> 
> ps. the tutorial should be able to refresh you in the basics and show
> how it progresses to the more advanced, so that I can understand how it
> gets there !
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] Java VM Problems

[Paul Smith]

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 16:37:49 -0500, Dave Ashmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Trouble is, I'm trying to install LimeWire (the P2P program), and I
> > keep getting told that there is no VM on my machine. Thats crap! I
> > know full well there is! :-)
> >
> > Now, It's installed to /usr/java (where I always used to install it),
> > and my .bash_profile has been suitably amended for the latest version
> > of the J2RE.

Apollon is better and easier of installing than LimeWire. Have a look at:

http://apollon.sourceforge.net/

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Java VM Problems

[Dave Ashmore]

J wrote:
Hi All,
I've just installed J2RE 1.4.2_06 on my machine.
Trouble is, I'm trying to install LimeWire (the P2P program), and I 
keep getting told that there is no VM on my machine. Thats crap! I 
know full well there is! :-)

Now, It's installed to /usr/java (where I always used to install it), 
and my .bash_profile has been suitably amended for the latest version 
of the J2RE.

I'm at a loss as to why it wont work.
.bash_profile is pasted below, just in case I have done something 
wrong whilst modifying it, although all I have done is changed 
j2re1.4.2_03 to j2re1.4.2_06, to bring it up to date with the latest 
version.

export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_06
export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
# .bash_profile
# Get the aliases and functions
if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
   . ~/.bashrc
fi
# User specific environment and startup programs
PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
export PATH
unset USERNAME
Any ideas? I have even tried a restart (yes, I had to once after 
installing an older version & modifying!)

Thanks, & Seasons Greetings etc,
James
I can't help ya with Java but I have found gnutella to work good for me.
As root:
urpmi gtk-gnutella
Works for me.
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Re: [newbie] Java VM Problems

[J]

Simon Roberts wrote:
in a terminal: cd to the directory that has your java install; change to the subdirectory 
"bin"; type "./java -version"
If that doesn't run java and tell you stuff about it, it's either not 
executable (which suggests you did the install wrong, or not as root perhaps) 
or really screwed up. Having old versions around can sometimes cause confusion 
if it finds one binary for java but mismatched libs and .jars.
If it does run when you do it like that, then you mistyped your path stuff, or perhaps the thing isn't executable as the user your trying to run the program as.
 

Hi Simon,
I did it, and got this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] j2re1.4.2_06]$ cd bin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ./java -version
java version "1.4.2_06"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_06-b03)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_06-b03, mixed mode)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$
So there is nothing wrong with the actual install.
I just gotta go figure the PATH wording now. (technically, it 
shouldnt have varied from 1.4.2_03 that I had previously! apart from _06)

Ho Hum!
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Re: [newbie] Java VM Problems

[Simon Roberts]

in a terminal: cd to the directory that has your java install; change to the 
subdirectory "bin"; type "./java -version"

If that doesn't run java and tell you stuff about it, it's either not 
executable (which suggests you did the install wrong, or not as root perhaps) 
or really screwed up. Having old versions around can sometimes cause confusion 
if it finds one binary for java but mismatched libs and .jars.

If it does run when you do it like that, then you mistyped your path stuff, or 
perhaps the thing isn't executable as the user your trying to run the program 
as.

-Original Message-
From: Josenildo Marques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Dec 26, 2004 11:46 AM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] Java VM Problems

On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 10:52 +, J wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I've just installed J2RE 1.4.2_06 on my machine.
> 
> Trouble is, I'm trying to install LimeWire (the P2P program), and I keep 
> getting told that there is no VM on my machine. Thats crap! I know 
> full well there is! :-)
> 
> Now, It's installed to /usr/java (where I always used to install it), 
> and my .bash_profile has been suitably amended for the latest version of 
> the J2RE.
> 
> I'm at a loss as to why it wont work.
> 
> .bash_profile is pasted below, just in case I have done something wrong 
> whilst modifying it, although all I have done is changed j2re1.4.2_03 to 
> j2re1.4.2_06, to bring it up to date with the latest version.
> 
> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_06
> export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
> # .bash_profile
> 
I have the latest LimeWire here and this line on .bashrc

export PATH=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/bin/:$PATH


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Re: [newbie] Java VM Problems

[Josenildo Marques]

On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 10:52 +, J wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I've just installed J2RE 1.4.2_06 on my machine.
> 
> Trouble is, I'm trying to install LimeWire (the P2P program), and I keep 
> getting told that there is no VM on my machine. Thats crap! I know 
> full well there is! :-)
> 
> Now, It's installed to /usr/java (where I always used to install it), 
> and my .bash_profile has been suitably amended for the latest version of 
> the J2RE.
> 
> I'm at a loss as to why it wont work.
> 
> .bash_profile is pasted below, just in case I have done something wrong 
> whilst modifying it, although all I have done is changed j2re1.4.2_03 to 
> j2re1.4.2_06, to bring it up to date with the latest version.
> 
> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_06
> export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
> # .bash_profile
> 
I have the latest LimeWire here and this line on .bashrc

export PATH=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/bin/:$PATH


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Re: [newbie] Java VM Problems

[J]

Edward Holcroft wrote:
As you can see I changed the reference in JAVA_HOME to point 
to /usr/lib/jdk-1.4.2_05/jre/bin/ instead of at the symbolic link 
(/user/java/j2re1.4.2_05). This is probably not the most elegant solution and 
I am not even sure why there were symbolic links used in the first place. All 
I know is after I did this, without use of symbolic links, LimeWire worked - 
no more message about Java VM not installed. I always seem to struggle with 
symbolic links, and this got around it.

Please let me know if this works for you.
 


 

Hi Edward,
Tried that, with /etc/profile and .bash_profile (I had to modify that 
for 9.2 & 10CE), and even restarted, as I found that if it's currently 
in use, then it needs a restart to take effect

Nothing, Nada, Nichts!!
Still getting the no VM found error message.
I'm not too worried about LimeWire, as I have the Apollon gnutella 
plugin installed, but I cant get Apollon to install using the so called 
All In One Installer, as it keeps tripping up on my version of QT, as 
it's asking for an earlier version, and it's too much like hard work to 
retrograde to that particular version.

The Apollon RPM from PLF works ok but I cant seem to find it on the 
PLF site anymore... If I could get the PLF RPM, I'd be ok, as I have 
giFT and the other plugins already installed, I just need the Apollon GUI!

Thanks,
James
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Re: [newbie] Java VM Problems

[Edward Holcroft]

I had this problem with Limewire when I upgraded to j2re1.4.2_05 with Mandrake 
10.1 Powerpack DVD.

My .bashprofile does not have the lines you refer to, it is just the default, 
but /etc/profile has the following lines which I added, which fixed the 
problem to which you refer:

JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jdk-1.4.2_05/jre
PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin
CLASSPATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/lib:

export JAVA_HOME PATH CLASSPATH

As you can see I changed the reference in JAVA_HOME to point 
to /usr/lib/jdk-1.4.2_05/jre/bin/ instead of at the symbolic link 
(/user/java/j2re1.4.2_05). This is probably not the most elegant solution and 
I am not even sure why there were symbolic links used in the first place. All 
I know is after I did this, without use of symbolic links, LimeWire worked - 
no more message about Java VM not installed. I always seem to struggle with 
symbolic links, and this got around it.

Please let me know if this works for you.

Ed

On Sunday, 26 December 2004 12:52, J wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I've just installed J2RE 1.4.2_06 on my machine.
>
> Trouble is, I'm trying to install LimeWire (the P2P program), and I keep
> getting told that there is no VM on my machine. Thats crap! I know
> full well there is! :-)
>
> Now, It's installed to /usr/java (where I always used to install it),
> and my .bash_profile has been suitably amended for the latest version of
> the J2RE.
>
> I'm at a loss as to why it wont work.
>
> .bash_profile is pasted below, just in case I have done something wrong
> whilst modifying it, although all I have done is changed j2re1.4.2_03 to
> j2re1.4.2_06, to bring it up to date with the latest version.
>
> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_06
> export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
> # .bash_profile
>
> # Get the aliases and functions
> if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
> . ~/.bashrc
> fi
>
> # User specific environment and startup programs
>
> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
>
> export PATH
> unset USERNAME
>
> Any ideas? I have even tried a restart (yes, I had to once after
> installing an older version & modifying!)
>
> Thanks, & Seasons Greetings etc,
>
> James


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Re: [newbie] Java flaw.

[Simon Utley]

On Monday 06 Dec 2004 19:00, Paul wrote:

>
> So if you are not certain, it is best to get the latest Java plugin and
> install that.

Thanks for your advice Paul, I have done that now.
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Re: [newbie] Java flaw.

[Paul]

Op Mon, 6 Dec 2004 18:33:46 + schreef Simon Utley:

>On Monday 06 Dec 2004 18:03, Paul wrote:
>
>>
>> What is the flaw? What is the URL of the site where you found out
>about> this? Without some more info it is difficult to see if something
>is> dangerous or not...
>The following link takes you to the article:
>http://www.virusthreatcenter.com/article.aspx?articleId=219&tag=vtc.nl

As it says on the page:

Applicability

This affects the Java Software Development Kit and Java Runtime
Environment on Solaris, Windows, and Linux. \x{201C}JDK and JRE
5.0\x{201D} are not affected according to Sun, but \x{201C}SDK and JRE
1.4.2_05 and earlier, all 1.4.1 and 1.4.0 releases, and 1.3.1_12 and
earlier\x{201D} are vulnerable.

and also:

Fix - Upgrade or disable Java

Sun reports that there is "no fix" for this threat and "no workaround,"
and you need to upgrade to newer versions to fix the problem. SDK and
JRE 1.4.2_06 and later and SDK and JRE 1.3.1_13 and later are free of
the problem according to Sun.

So if you are not certain, it is best to get the latest Java plugin and
install that.

Paul
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Re: [newbie] Java flaw.

[Simon Utley]

On Monday 06 Dec 2004 18:03, Paul wrote:

>
> What is the flaw? What is the URL of the site where you found out about
> this? Without some more info it is difficult to see if something is
> dangerous or not...
The following link takes you to the article:
http://www.virusthreatcenter.com/article.aspx?articleId=219&tag=vtc.nl

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Re: [newbie] Java flaw.

[Paul]

Op Mon, 6 Dec 2004 17:30:45 + schreef Simon Utley:

>Flaw in the Sun Java Plugin is elusive and very dangerous. Quoted from
>the virus threat centre. I am running 10.0 official. Does this apply to
>me, how do I fix it??

What is the flaw? What is the URL of the site where you found out about
this? Without some more info it is difficult to see if something is
dangerous or not...

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Java and konqueror

[Poogle]

On Thursday 02 Dec 2004 02:37, Paul Kaplan wrote:
> I installed jre-1.5.0 from sun onto mdk 10.1.  I am able to get the java
> plugin to work for firefox 1.0 and for opera 7.54, but not for konqueror.
> I tried having konqueror look for the java plugin
> in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox-1.0/plugins/
> /usr/java/jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/ and /usr/java/jre1.5.0/lib/i586 (the
> way opera handles java), but no luck.
>
> Any suggestions?
> TIA
> Paul

Being a dinosaur I'm still on 9.1 (really just not had time to migrate
everything yet) but in Konqueror 3.1.0 using the same Sun jre 1.5 my path to
java is /usr/java/jre1.5.0/bin/java - this seems to work for me
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Re: [newbie] java problem

[Thereidos]

W liście z nie, 19-09-2004, godz. 17:21, Russ Kepler pisze: 
> I hope I explained my reasoning better in this reply.

Yeah, I believe we've got a little bit misunderstood. Everything differs
on experience gained through the work with it.

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Re: [newbie] java problem

[Russ Kepler]

On Sunday 19 September 2004 02:57 am, Thereidos wrote:

> > Unfortunately that code doesn't have the same meaning.  JAVA_HOME isn't
> > defined or exported (I'm assuming that you meant JAVA_HOME in the first
> > line), and the JAVA_HOME bin directory is now at the end of PATH.
>
> Yes, I meant JAVA_HOME. As for the order of appearing in PATH: The point
> was to first declare and then export. The order was irrelevant. But
> thanks for pointing me out.

I believe you missed the meaning in the second sentence of the paragraph, 
here's the original that was posted:

<<
Unfortunately that code doesn't have the same meaning.  JAVA_HOME isn't 
defined or exported (I'm assuming that you meant JAVA_HOME in the first 
line), and the JAVA_HOME bin directory is now at the end of PATH.  The 
problem could very well be from a early version of Java that's expecting 
CLASSPATH and so the new directory should be placed at the start of the PATH 
if you want to be sure.  Putting it at the end is a better solution, but only 
after making sure that nothing earlier in the PATH will affect it.
>>

Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I could have been - I often skip over things when 
I reply, it's a bad habit when the question/answer cycle is a long one.  

The problem as originally expressed was that the java executable was being 
found but the Swing jars weren't being located.  In my experience this was 
likely because older Java versions would expect the jar files (sort of like 
.so for C or .pm for Perl) to be specified in a CLASSPATH env variable.  
Later versions of Java have used JAVA_HOME; Java 1.4.2 (at least) seems happy 
to use whatever path in which the java executable was found and not to 
require either CLASSPATH or JAVA_HOME (at least on my current installation).  
So Java was being found, just not the version of Java that he expected.  
Putting the new path at the end of the PATH variable would have left him 
looking at the old java executable and one that might not have been 
compatible with the newer jar files pointed to by JAVA_HOME.

The other point was that once EXPORTed a variable does not have to be 
reEXPORTed, so the "export PATH" is unnecessary.  Some folks get into the 
habit of using an EXPORT in front of a variable assignment, I try to avoid it 
as each variable exported fractionally increases the cost of starting a new 
shell or command.  The only variables that you want to export are those you 
want the child processes to get.  But the main point was that the PATH 
assignment doesn't need to be reEXPORTed.

I hope I explained my reasoning better in this reply.


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Re: [newbie] java problem

[Russ Kepler]

On Saturday 18 September 2004 07:13 am, Thereidos wrote:

> There should be no spaces between variables and '='. It should look like
> this :
> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05
> export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH

That looks correct.

> But I would do it this way :
>
> JAVA=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_5
> PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin
> export PATH

Unfortunately that code doesn't have the same meaning.  JAVA_HOME isn't 
defined or exported (I'm assuming that you meant JAVA_HOME in the first 
line), and the JAVA_HOME bin directory is now at the end of PATH.  The 
problem could very well be from a early version of Java that's expecting 
CLASSPATH and so the new directory should be placed at the start of the PATH 
if you want to be sure.  Putting it at the end is a better solution, but only 
after making sure that nothing earlier in the PATH will affect it.

As a note I'm sure that only the JAVA_HOME will have to be exported as PATH 
already will be exported.  So the final would be:

export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05
PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH



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Re: [newbie] java problem

[Thereidos]

W liście z sob, 18-09-2004, godz. 14:42, Russell Butler pisze: 
>   export JAVA_HOME = "/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/"
>   export PATH = $JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
> 
> Now when I open a new shell in KDE I get:
> 
>   bash: export: `=': not a valid identifier
>   bash: export: `/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/': not a valid identifier
>   bash: export: `=': not a valid identifier
>   bash: export:
> `/bin:/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin/:/usr/games:/home/russellb/bin:/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/bin:':
>  
> not a valid identifier

There should be no spaces between variables and '='. It should look like
this :
export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05
export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH

But I would do it this way :

JAVA=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_5
PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin
export PATH

Note: If you'll make variable ending with '/' and then export it with
'/bin' on the end you'll get /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05//bin (double '/').
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Re: [newbie] Java problem. (can't install jdk1.3.1_11 onto mandrake 9.2 properly)

[frankieh]

Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 05:06, frankieh wrote:
Hi guys,
I have not played with Java on linux till now, and I have been given a
java application I need to install for a payment gateway client.
(by payment gateway client I mean the application is part of the client
side software required for the payment gateway to be used.)
Anyway, long story short, this java app requires a java between 1.1 and
1.3.x (it doesn't work on 1.4 so I had to remove that first.)
To that end I downloaded jdk1.3.1_11 rpm from Suns site and installed it
on the machine. seemed to go fine.
Then I put a shortcut to /usr/java/jdk1.3.1_11/bin/java into
/usr/bin/java so that the system could see the binary.
So far so good, giving a: java -version
as root returns:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] fixit]# java -version
java version "1.3.1_11"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.1_11-b02)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.3.1_11-b02, mixed mode)
again, so far so good,
but when I try to run the install bin file for the java app, I get this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] fixit]# ./paymentclient_30.bin
Preparing to install...
tail: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
Try `tail --help' for more information.
./paymentclient_30.bin: line 325: [: `)' expected, found -z
WARNING! The amount of /tmp disk space required and/or available
could not be determined.  The installation will be attempted anyway.
Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
Launching installer...
head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
Try `head --help' for more information.
/usr/java/jdk1.3.1_11/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading
shared libraries: libjvm.so: cannot op
en shared object file: No such file or directory
The shared lib it is looking for is available in three places:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] fixit]# locate libjvm.so
/usr/java/jdk1.3.1_11/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so
/usr/java/jdk1.3.1_11/jre/lib/i386/server/libjvm.so
/usr/java/jdk1.3.1_11/jre/lib/i386/classic/libjvm.so
And yet it can't find any of them.
Does anyone have any idea how I might fix this?
regards
Franki

You're going to need to edit your /etc/ld.so.conf and include the lib
dirs in there and re-run ldconfig to rebuild the cache
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Thanks Mr Stephen,
But James beat you to it.. so I gave him an honourary Linux knighthood.
tis funny,  I have done that several times in the past, and it just 
never occured to me this time.
go figure.

rgds
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Re: [newbie] Java problem. (can't install jdk1.3.1_11 onto mandrake 9.2 properly)

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 05:06, frankieh wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I have not played with Java on linux till now, and I have been given a
> java application I need to install for a payment gateway client.
> (by payment gateway client I mean the application is part of the client
> side software required for the payment gateway to be used.)
> 
> Anyway, long story short, this java app requires a java between 1.1 and
> 1.3.x (it doesn't work on 1.4 so I had to remove that first.)
> To that end I downloaded jdk1.3.1_11 rpm from Suns site and installed it
> on the machine. seemed to go fine.
> 
> Then I put a shortcut to /usr/java/jdk1.3.1_11/bin/java into
> /usr/bin/java so that the system could see the binary.
> So far so good, giving a: java -version
> as root returns:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] fixit]# java -version
> java version "1.3.1_11"
> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.1_11-b02)
> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.3.1_11-b02, mixed mode)
> 
> 
> again, so far so good,
> but when I try to run the install bin file for the java app, I get this:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] fixit]# ./paymentclient_30.bin
> Preparing to install...
> tail: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
> Try `tail --help' for more information.
> ./paymentclient_30.bin: line 325: [: `)' expected, found -z
> WARNING! The amount of /tmp disk space required and/or available
> could not be determined.  The installation will be attempted anyway.
> Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
> Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
> 
> Launching installer...
> 
> head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
> Try `head --help' for more information.
> /usr/java/jdk1.3.1_11/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading
> shared libraries: libjvm.so: cannot op
> en shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> The shared lib it is looking for is available in three places:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] fixit]# locate libjvm.so
> /usr/java/jdk1.3.1_11/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so
> /usr/java/jdk1.3.1_11/jre/lib/i386/server/libjvm.so
> /usr/java/jdk1.3.1_11/jre/lib/i386/classic/libjvm.so
> 
> And yet it can't find any of them.
> 
> Does anyone have any idea how I might fix this?
> 
> 
> regards
> 
> 
> Franki

You're going to need to edit your /etc/ld.so.conf and include the lib
dirs in there and re-run ldconfig to rebuild the cache

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Re: [newbie] Java and Firefox

[JoeHill]

On Tue, 18 May 2004 17:33:01 +0200
Paul disseminated the following:

> > ln -s /usr/java/j2re1.4.1_05/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_jni.so
> 
> ln -s
> /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so
> 
> See the difference?
> 
> You need to link to the one with 'ns610-gcc32' in the path. You are
> linking to the wrong one. To that, you need to install 1.4.2. You are
> using 1.4.1, which won't work.

...yeah, I finally snagged the latest version of the j2re and all is well.
Strangely enough, I didn't have to do any symlinking, even removed the old one I
created (wouldn't have worked anyhow, wrong path as you point out).

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Re: [newbie] Java and Firefox

[JoeHill]

On Wed, 19 May 2004 05:48:50 +0300
David Robertson disseminated the following:

> > Any clues for the clueless?
> 
> For me, ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox-0.8/plugins gives
> 
> libjavaplugin_oji.so ->
> /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so*
> 
> Note that libjavaplugin_oji.so has to be a symbolic link to the plugin -
> copying it won't work.

...so in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox-0.8/plugins, I did:

ln -s /usr/java/j2re1.4.1_05/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_jni.so

...but still no go.

Thanks for the suggestion!

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Re: [newbie] Java and Firefox

[JoeHill]

On Tue, 18 May 2004 10:43:39 -0400
Bryan Phinney disseminated the following:

> > I cannot get Firefox to recognize that I have Java installed. I have the
> > path set to the java executable (tried java and java_vm and also just the
> > path to them) and even copied the javaplugin.jar to
> > /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox-0.8/plugins, still no go.
> >
> > Any clues for the clueless?
> 
> With Opera, the correct path to use to specify java 
> is /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/lib/i386.  You might try that path and see if it 
> works better.

No love, but many thanks for the suggestion. I know Java is working, as
Java-based apps work like my router-config interface, it's just Firefox (and
Galeon for that matter). Weird, all I've ever had to do is install Java and the
browsers picked it up automatically.

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Re: [newbie] Java and Firefox

[Bryan Phinney]

On Tuesday 18 May 2004 10:25 am, JoeHill wrote:
> Okay, it's my day to ask a lot of stupid questions.
>
> I cannot get Firefox to recognize that I have Java installed. I have the
> path set to the java executable (tried java and java_vm and also just the
> path to them) and even copied the javaplugin.jar to
> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox-0.8/plugins, still no go.
>
> Any clues for the clueless?

With Opera, the correct path to use to specify java 
is /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/lib/i386.  You might try that path and see if it 
works better.


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Re: [newbie] Java and Firefox

[David Robertson]

On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 17:25, JoeHill wrote:
> Okay, it's my day to ask a lot of stupid questions.
> 
> I cannot get Firefox to recognize that I have Java installed. I have the path
> set to the java executable (tried java and java_vm and also just the path to
> them) and even copied the javaplugin.jar to
> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox-0.8/plugins, still no go.
> 
> Any clues for the clueless?

For me, ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox-0.8/plugins gives

libjavaplugin_oji.so ->
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so*

Note that libjavaplugin_oji.so has to be a symbolic link to the plugin -
copying it won't work.

I have j2re1.4.2 compiled for gcc 3.2 installed.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Java in Mdk 10

[Jerry]

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 15:06:46 -0500
"Carl J. Bauman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I just did an install of Mdk 10 CE and all went well until I tried to 
> > upgrade a couple of apps.
> >
> > I use Opera as my browser and never had a problem with java but with 
> > the new install, java won't work.  I downloaded the latest from Sun 
> > and followed the install instructions and created a symbolic link in 
> > /usr/lib/opera/plugins to javaplugin_oji.so but it still doesn't work.
> >
> > I used to have the same problem with Netscape but never with Opera.  
> > What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > Rich
> 
> 
> I'm currently having the same problem with Netscape 7.1 and would like 
> to know if there is a work around for my situation as well.
> 
> Thanks,
> Carl

The problem I had with it was the path was (not sure how to phrase this...) 'too 
deep.'  I had it in /home/jerry/java/j2sdk1.4.2_03/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/ and 
moving it to /usr/java worked.
(what I did:)
su

mkdir /usr/java
mv /home/jerry/java/j2sdk1.4.2_03/* /usr/java/
exit

then update the links:

ln -s /usr/java/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so 
/usr/local/mozilla/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so 
(yours may be a different destination dir)

It's been a while since i've used opera but IIRC you can have it look for plugins in 
your mozilla plugin directory

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Re: [newbie] java path for Konquerer

[acidblue]

OK thanks for the replies fellow's. I got it working now.
- Original Message - 
From: "Charlie M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] java path for Konquerer


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> On March 15, 2004 07:42 pm, acid wrote:
> > what should be the correct path to java for Konqueror web browser be so
I
> > can use chat rooms?
> > mine is currently:/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/lib/i386/libjava.so
> > which only gives me  a 'applet loading' screen for days.
> > I know it's in the /lib/i386/ folder because thats the directory  I set
for
> > Opera, and it works. Opera only needs the directory java is in ,
Konqueror
> > requires you t point to the exact file which obviously isn't
/libjava.so.
>
> My java is set to; Global, Use security manager, Shutdown applet server
when
> inactive, 60 second time out and the path I'm using is just java. The
> appropriate plug-in for Konqueror is in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins which
should
> contain a symbolic link to the correct location. My browsers all work,
test
> them at:
>
> http://www.expertit.co.uk/support/browsertest/
>
> > I'd use Opera but I hate it. so please tell me which file I should point
to
> > in the /i386/ directory.
> > There is a executive file named aw_robot or something  but that doesn't
> > seem to work, there are a bunch of .so files, I imagine it's one of them
,
> > but which one?
>
> Just use the plug-ins and let the software work maybe?
>
> Regards;
> Charlie
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Re: [newbie] java path for Konquerer

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On March 15, 2004 07:42 pm, acid wrote:
> what should be the correct path to java for Konqueror web browser be so I
> can use chat rooms?
> mine is currently:/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/lib/i386/libjava.so
> which only gives me  a 'applet loading' screen for days.
> I know it's in the /lib/i386/ folder because thats the directory  I set for
> Opera, and it works. Opera only needs the directory java is in , Konqueror
> requires you t point to the exact file which obviously isn't /libjava.so.

My java is set to; Global, Use security manager, Shutdown applet server when 
inactive, 60 second time out and the path I'm using is just java. The 
appropriate plug-in for Konqueror is in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins which should 
contain a symbolic link to the correct location. My browsers all work, test 
them at:

http://www.expertit.co.uk/support/browsertest/

> I'd use Opera but I hate it. so please tell me which file I should point to
> in the /i386/ directory.
> There is a executive file named aw_robot or something  but that doesn't
> seem to work, there are a bunch of .so files, I imagine it's one of them ,
> but which one?

Just use the plug-ins and let the software work maybe?

Regards;
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Re: [newbie] java vm machine

[Shawn Protsman]

Bill,

Did you download the JRE or SDK from Sun's web site?  Either of these 
has the virtual machine.  Edit ".bash_profile" to add a path for Java:

 export PATH=/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_01/bin:$PATH

Shawn

On Saturday, Jan 24, 2004, at 12:37 US/Central, Bill W. wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I am trying to install the Gallery Constructor on my 9.1 (with many 
upgrades)
laptop. I keep getting an error about not finding java vm in my path. 
I know
that I have java installed on the machine but I guess one question is 
... is
'virtual machine' included in the standard java install? Also, it's 
about
time I learn to how to 'put something in my path'.
Anyone have any success with this prog?
Looking for any pointers.

Thanks and regards,
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Re: [newbie] JAVA compile

[Bryan Phinney]

On Wednesday 29 October 2003 11:10 pm, emim limam wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am trying to compile with java but when i try from
> shell" javac file.java" i am geting
> bash:javac:command not found > message.
> How could i fix this?
> my system is mdk9.1
> thx
> emin

Make sure you have java installed and then make sure that java is in your 
path.

echo $PATH should show you something along the lines of:

blahblahblah:/usr/java/j2re1.4.1_03/bin

if you don't have java in the path, you need to add it in or explicitly point 
to it.

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Re: [newbie] JAVA compile

[Raffaele Belardi]

Do you have the java compiler installed? I am not sure it is installed 
by default. javac is probably the compiler provided by SUN.

raffele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I am trying to compile with java but when i try from
shell" javac file.java" i am geting
bash:javac:command not found > message.
How could i fix this?
my system is mdk9.1
thx
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Re: [newbie] Java Developer Kit???

[Guy Rouillier]

emim limam wrote:
Hhi guys, I need a nice and easy to use Java Developer
GUI. Is there any one i can use easily?
I am not advance in programming and also linux. So i
neet something really easy to configure and use? 
Like Jcreator.
any help and recommendation appreciated.
emin
There are many from which to choose, and preferences are very 
individual.  I've used both JBuilder (from Borland) and Eclipse and like 
them both.  Eclipse is freely available, and there is a version of 
JBuilder also available for free download.

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Re: [newbie] Java programming question?

[Kevin J CItron]

Mkae sure you set your CLASSPATH to the location of your java class that

contains a main. You can either set it in your shell. Or as an argument
to the java vm.

In other words. If I have a class defined as

class Foo {
    
    public static void main(String[] args){
      System.out.println("Hello World");
    }
};

I compile this class in directory /tmp

The result of the compilation would leave me with a file named
Foo.class in /tmp

To run this program from tmp I would do this:

 java -cp. Foo

The output should be Hello World



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   I'm still relatively new to linux so I was hoping someone might know a
 quick answer to this question, when I try to run a very simple program I
 wrote it gives me the error: 
 
"Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: lab1/java" 
 
It didn't give me any errors when I compiled it, so I figure it must be  something
I'm doing wrong. Any thoughts? 
 
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Re: [newbie] Java programming question?

[Michael Lothian]

I once got this error in windows when I didn't have my PATH set propperly

Some info here

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/tooldocs/solaris/classpath.html

I remember in windows I had to set the CLASSPATH=.   That's a fullstop 
(period to americans I think)

Mike

Patrick Coffey wrote:

Hi,
   I'm still relatively new to linux so I was hoping someone might 
know a quick answer to this question, when I try to run a very simple 
program I wrote it gives me the error:

"Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: lab1/java"

It didn't give me any errors when I compiled it, so I figure it must 
be something I'm doing wrong. Any thoughts?

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Re: [newbie] Java and font problem on ML 9.1

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 09:56, Guilherme Cirne wrote:

> Do you know where I could start looking?

Not quite sure, to be honest...

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Re: [newbie] Java and font problem on ML 9.1

[JoeHill]

On 27 Jun 2003 09:35:32 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> I would assume it has something to do with XFT - since support wasn't
> really in 9.0 but IS in 9.1 - so it would have something to do with
> the XFT settings...

I had the same probs in 9.0 and 9.1, both of which I have AA disabled
for anything under 15 points. 

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Re: [newbie] Java and font problem on ML 9.1

[Guilherme Cirne]

On Thursday 26 June 2003 20:35, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 07:11, Guilherme Cirne wrote:
> > > You might try running the Java IDE under a different window manager
> > > or desktop (Gnome, WindowMaker, XFCE, Enlightenment, etc) to see if
> > > the problem persists across those as well - it could merely be a
> > > font problem in the window manager/desktop you're currently
> > > using...
> >
> > I forgot to mention that I had already tried running under KDE, Gnome
> > and IceWM and the results are the same. So, any other ideas?
>
> I would assume it has something to do with XFT - since support wasn't
> really in 9.0 but IS in 9.1 - so it would have something to do with the
> XFT settings...

Do you know where I could start looking?

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Re: [newbie] Java and font problem on ML 9.1

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 07:11, Guilherme Cirne wrote:

> > You might try running the Java IDE under a different window manager or
> > desktop (Gnome, WindowMaker, XFCE, Enlightenment, etc) to see if the
> > problem persists across those as well - it could merely be a font
> > problem in the window manager/desktop you're currently using...
> 
> I forgot to mention that I had already tried running under KDE, Gnome and 
> IceWM and the results are the same. So, any other ideas?

I would assume it has something to do with XFT - since support wasn't
really in 9.0 but IS in 9.1 - so it would have something to do with the
XFT settings...

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Re: [newbie] Java and font problem on ML 9.1

[Guilherme Cirne]

On Thursday 26 June 2003 08:19, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 09:38, Guilherme Cirne wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a font problem in java apps running under ML 9.1 which is very
> > hard to explain so I have screenshot showing exactly what I mean. I
> > can send this to anyone who is willing to help.
> >
> > Basically what happens is this. The height of the default java font
> > (Dialog) is not being calculated correctly under ML 9.1. So all
> > components, like buttons, are much higher than they should be.
> >
> > I know that Dialog is just a link which by default points to Lucida
> > Sans and this can be changed in the jre font.properties file. But the
> > strange thing is that if the font of a particular component is set to
> > Lucida Sans directly then the height is calculated correctly and the
> > component looks like it should. So the problem isn't the Lucida Sans
> > font. This can be seen clearly on the screenshot which I made.
> >
> > This only happens on ML 9.1. On 9.0 it works as it should. I have
> > also tried different jre's like Blackdown's 1.4.1 and Sun's 1.4.1 and
> > 1.4.2 beta and they all have this problem. So this is a ML 9.1
> > specific issue. I have also performed various installations of ML 9.1
> > on different machines and the results are the same.
> >
> > So if anybody has seen this and can help me I would be very grateful.
> > And don't forget, I can send anyone a screenshot which makes it much
> > clearer to see the problem.
> >
> > TIA,
>
> You might try running the Java IDE under a different window manager or
> desktop (Gnome, WindowMaker, XFCE, Enlightenment, etc) to see if the
> problem persists across those as well - it could merely be a font
> problem in the window manager/desktop you're currently using...

I forgot to mention that I had already tried running under KDE, Gnome and 
IceWM and the results are the same. So, any other ideas?

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Re: [newbie] Java and font problem on ML 9.1

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 09:38, Guilherme Cirne wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a font problem in java apps running under ML 9.1 which is very hard 
> to explain so I have screenshot showing exactly what I mean. I can send 
> this to anyone who is willing to help.
> 
> Basically what happens is this. The height of the default java font 
> (Dialog) is not being calculated correctly under ML 9.1. So all 
> components, like buttons, are much higher than they should be.
> 
> I know that Dialog is just a link which by default points to Lucida Sans 
> and this can be changed in the jre font.properties file. But the strange 
> thing is that if the font of a particular component is set to Lucida Sans 
> directly then the height is calculated correctly and the component looks 
> like it should. So the problem isn't the Lucida Sans font. This can be 
> seen clearly on the screenshot which I made.
> 
> This only happens on ML 9.1. On 9.0 it works as it should. I have also 
> tried different jre's like Blackdown's 1.4.1 and Sun's 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 
> beta and they all have this problem. So this is a ML 9.1 specific issue. 
> I have also performed various installations of ML 9.1 on different 
> machines and the results are the same.
> 
> So if anybody has seen this and can help me I would be very grateful. And 
> don't forget, I can send anyone a screenshot which makes it much clearer 
> to see the problem.
> 
> TIA,

You might try running the Java IDE under a different window manager or
desktop (Gnome, WindowMaker, XFCE, Enlightenment, etc) to see if the
problem persists across those as well - it could merely be a font
problem in the window manager/desktop you're currently using...

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Re: [newbie] Java in Netscape

[rluchor]

On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 10:50, Troy Davidson wrote:

Hmmm...  that's strange.  I have never had to change permissions for the
plugins for my machine.  Are you running at a higher security level?  My
security level is default.


Strange indeed!  My security level is also default (5?).  I've tried 
changing permissions on netscape and netscape-bin to no avail. 
Rich


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Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 09:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 22:13, Troy Davidson wrote: 
> > 
> > > Login as root, and go to this page:
> > > http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048
> > > 
> > > Download the plugin and you are all set.
> > 
> > That did it, Troy - Thanks!
> 
> Looks like I spoke too soon; the java plugins show as being installed in
> "about plugins", but only work when I'm logged in as root.  How do I
> change permissions of the plugins so they work when I'm logged in as
> myself?
> 
> Rich
> 





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Re: [newbie] Java in Netscape

[Troy Davidson]

Hmmm...  that's strange.  I have never had to change permissions for the
plugins for my machine.  Are you running at a higher security level?  My
security level is default.


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Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 09:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 22:13, Troy Davidson wrote: 
> > 
> > > Login as root, and go to this page:
> > > http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048
> > > 
> > > Download the plugin and you are all set.
> > 
> > That did it, Troy - Thanks!
> 
> Looks like I spoke too soon; the java plugins show as being installed in
> "about plugins", but only work when I'm logged in as root.  How do I
> change permissions of the plugins so they work when I'm logged in as
> myself?
> 
> Rich
> 

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Re: [newbie] Java in Netscape

[rluchor]

On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 09:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 22:13, Troy Davidson wrote: 

Login as root, and go to this page:
http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048

Download the plugin and you are all set.

That did it, Troy - Thanks!

Looks like I spoke too soon; the java plugins show as being installed in "about plugins", but only work when I'm logged in as root.  How do I change permissions of the plugins so they work when I'm logged in as myself?

Rich

Re: [newbie] Java in Netscape

[rluchor]

On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 22:13, Troy Davidson wrote:

Login as root, and go to this page:

http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048

Download the plugin and you are all set.


That did it, Troy - Thanks!

Rich

Re: [newbie] Java in Netscape

[Troy Davidson]

Login as root, and go to this page:

http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048

Download the plugin and you are all set.


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Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> My transition to 9.1 is complete with one exception:  getting java to
> work in Netscape 7.02.  When I installed Netscape on my laptop, it was
> version 7.0 and came with java that installed automatically.  A couple
> of days later I installed MDk 9.1 on my desktop and downloaded
> Netscape.  This time it was version 7.02 and java was not included.
> 
> I downloaded Sun java 1.4.x and installed it per instructions, but
> Netscape does't recognize that it's there.  I did the simlink thing to
> ~/.netscape6 and ~/.netscape to no avail.  I also went into the KDE
> control panel and added the links to the plugin panel.  No dice.
> 
> Exactly where is Netscape looking for its plugins?  Opera finds java
> with no problem at all.
> 
> Rich
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Re: [newbie] Java

[Mark Weaver]

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Friday 24 Jan 2003 9:59 am, Ongkie PDS wrote:


Dear Friend,

I need to open a website that use java applet, where can I download the
java rpm?



Do you need the whole java?  Which browser are you using?  If it's Mozilla, go 
to mozilla.org and they have a link page for plugins.  Netscape also have a 
link page.  If you need more than just a java plugin for a browser, go to 
Sun's site for a download.  Come back if you need more help.

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Re: [newbie] Java installation

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 00:01, Angus Auld wrote:

> If you need further instructions, there are others more qualified 
> than I who will assist you. This list is a super place...lots of kind 
> people!
> 

Kind people? Dang - where?

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Re: [newbie] Java installation

[Azrael]

chmod +x j2re-1_4_1_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin
./j2re-1_4_1_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin

agree to the terms etc

rpm -Uhv j2re-1_4_1_01-linux-i586-rpm

Of course, some or all of the above needs to be done as root.
The rpm line definatly has to be..

On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 13:01, Angus Auld wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ongkie PDS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Thanks to Anne, Robert, Stephen.
> > 
> > I did download the "j2re-1_4_1_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin" file.
> > What I have to do to install it ?
> > 
> > Thx,
> > -OS-
> >
> Hi Ongkie, you can find pretty good installation instructions here:
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/jre/install-linux.html#install-pkg
> 
> If you need further instructions, there are others more qualified 
> than I who will assist you. This list is a super place...lots of kind 
> people!
> 
> All the best to you!
> 
> 
> --Angus
> 
> "Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness."--James 
>Thurber
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RE: [newbie] Java installation

[Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN]

You may need to chmod +x the file.bin then ./filename.bin will end up being a rpm file 
which
may also need to be chmod +x filename.rpm 
rpm -Uvh filename.rpm

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Network Engineer
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-Original Message-
From: Angus Auld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Java installation


- Original Message -
From: "Ongkie PDS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Thanks to Anne, Robert, Stephen.
> 
> I did download the "j2re-1_4_1_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin" file.
> What I have to do to install it ?
> 
> Thx,
> -OS-
>
Hi Ongkie, you can find pretty good installation instructions here:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/jre/install-linux.html#install-pkg

If you need further instructions, there are others more qualified 
than I who will assist you. This list is a super place...lots of kind 
people!

All the best to you!


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Re: [newbie] Java installation

[Angus Auld]

- Original Message -
From: "Ongkie PDS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Thanks to Anne, Robert, Stephen.
> 
> I did download the "j2re-1_4_1_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin" file.
> What I have to do to install it ?
> 
> Thx,
> -OS-
>
Hi Ongkie, you can find pretty good installation instructions here:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/jre/install-linux.html#install-pkg

If you need further instructions, there are others more qualified 
than I who will assist you. This list is a super place...lots of kind 
people!

All the best to you!


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Re: [newbie] Java installation

[robin]

Ongkie PDS wrote:

Thanks to Anne, Robert, Stephen.

I did download the "j2re-1_4_1_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin" file.
What I have to do to install it ?



cd to the directory you downloaded it to, then just  type 
./j2re-1_4_1_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin

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Re: [newbie] Java

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 20:59, Ongkie PDS wrote:
> Dear Friend,
> 
> I need to open a website that use java applet, where can I download the java 
> rpm?
> 
> Thx n rgrds,
> -OS-
> 

http://java.sun.com

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RE: [newbie] Java

[Robert Wideman]

www.sun.com



>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ongkie PDS
>> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:59 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [newbie] Java
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Friend,
>> 
>> I need to open a website that use java applet, where can I 
>> download the java 
>> rpm?
>> 
>> Thx n rgrds,
>> -OS-
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _
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Re: [newbie] Java

[Anne Wilson]

On Friday 24 Jan 2003 9:59 am, Ongkie PDS wrote:
> Dear Friend,
>
> I need to open a website that use java applet, where can I download the
> java rpm?

Do you need the whole java?  Which browser are you using?  If it's Mozilla, go 
to mozilla.org and they have a link page for plugins.  Netscape also have a 
link page.  If you need more than just a java plugin for a browser, go to 
Sun's site for a download.  Come back if you need more help.

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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[Mark Weaver]

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Wednesday 08 Jan 2003 4:02 am, Mark Weaver wrote:


Anne Wilson wrote:


On Sunday 05 Jan 2003 4:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Success!  OK, partial success.  I removed all trace of java from my
machine, ran the upgrade from the 9.0 discs and then installed the
Blackdown java.  Mozilla and Galeon now work OK, but for some reason
Netscape 7.0 still refuses to recognize java.  Oh well, if I need it, I
have it!

Thanks for everyone's help.


I still can't work out what's going on here.  I installed Netscape 7 and
the java works perfectly.  Mozilla and Galeon on the other hand list the
plugins, but they don't work.  Mozilla has lost certain setting that it
had, and is now exactly like the Netscape setup.  They must be sharing
something somewhere.

It doesn't make any sense at all

Anne


Anne,

They are indeed. They're both using the .mozilla directory. If you want
Netscape to appear as it's own app then create a new profile that you'll
use when running Netscape complete with it's own mail settings,
bookmarks and address book. That should straighten things out for you.

Mark



The whole thing is odd.  You may remember that all of this started for me 
because I could not get the navigation tabs and links to work in Mozilla on 
some sites.  After installing Netscape 7 I found that everything worked 
there, but there was no change to the problem in Mozilla.

Last night I found that Mozilla now displays all the tabs and links, though 
not all of the are active.  I suppose this means that I have changed a 
setting somewhere that is affecting it, but for the life in me I don't know 
what!

Anne

well...you could always experiment with a fresh install of Mozilla. 
Uninstall the mozilla packages making sure you delete the dir and all 
the files therein in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.1, then do a fresh install of 
mozilla which you'll also want to create the symlink from the JDK 
package netscape java plugin to the /usr/lib/mozilla-1.1/plugins dir 
when you're finished and see what that does.

or...not. :)

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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 08 Jan 2003 4:02 am, Mark Weaver wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Sunday 05 Jan 2003 4:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>Success!  OK, partial success.  I removed all trace of java from my
> >>machine, ran the upgrade from the 9.0 discs and then installed the
> >>Blackdown java.  Mozilla and Galeon now work OK, but for some reason
> >>Netscape 7.0 still refuses to recognize java.  Oh well, if I need it, I
> >>have it!
> >>
> >>Thanks for everyone's help.
> >
> > I still can't work out what's going on here.  I installed Netscape 7 and
> > the java works perfectly.  Mozilla and Galeon on the other hand list the
> > plugins, but they don't work.  Mozilla has lost certain setting that it
> > had, and is now exactly like the Netscape setup.  They must be sharing
> > something somewhere.
> >
> > It doesn't make any sense at all
> >
> > Anne
>
> Anne,
>
> They are indeed. They're both using the .mozilla directory. If you want
> Netscape to appear as it's own app then create a new profile that you'll
> use when running Netscape complete with it's own mail settings,
> bookmarks and address book. That should straighten things out for you.
>
> Mark

The whole thing is odd.  You may remember that all of this started for me 
because I could not get the navigation tabs and links to work in Mozilla on 
some sites.  After installing Netscape 7 I found that everything worked 
there, but there was no change to the problem in Mozilla.

Last night I found that Mozilla now displays all the tabs and links, though 
not all of the are active.  I suppose this means that I have changed a 
setting somewhere that is affecting it, but for the life in me I don't know 
what!

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[Anne Wilson]

On Sunday 05 Jan 2003 4:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Success!  OK, partial success.  I removed all trace of java from my
> machine, ran the upgrade from the 9.0 discs and then installed the
> Blackdown java.  Mozilla and Galeon now work OK, but for some reason
> Netscape 7.0 still refuses to recognize java.  Oh well, if I need it, I
> have it!
>
> Thanks for everyone's help.
>
I still can't work out what's going on here.  I installed Netscape 7 and the 
java works perfectly.  Mozilla and Galeon on the other hand list the plugins, 
but they don't work.  Mozilla has lost certain setting that it had, and is 
now exactly like the Netscape setup.  They must be sharing something 
somewhere.

It doesn't make any sense at all

Anne


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RE: [newbie] Java - lost it

[rluchor]

Success!  OK, partial success.  I removed all trace of java from my
machine, ran the upgrade from the 9.0 discs and then installed the
Blackdown java.  Mozilla and Galeon now work OK, but for some reason
Netscape 7.0 still refuses to recognize java.  Oh well, if I need it, I
have it!

Thanks for everyone's help.

Rich



On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 13:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Originally I did an upgrade on both of my computers, the laptop is still
> working, but my main computer crashed about a week later, reason
> unknown.  I was unable to recover from the crash,so did a fresh install.
> 
> I think my step step, if I can find the time, will be to hunt down all
> vestiges of java and then do an upgrade followed by a fresh install of
> java.
> 
> Rich
> 
> On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 10:32, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote:
> > Did you upgrade or do a fresh install. One of the features with 9.0
> > was supposed to be it's ability to upgrade over an older OS but I
> > don't think that it works consistantly and may be you are better off
> > with a clean install? Dennis M.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:56 AM
> > To: Mandrake
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Java - lost it
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:57, erylon hines wrote:
> > > On Thursday 02 January 2003 12:44 pm, you wrote:
> > > 
> > > > My installation is also from the discs and uninstalling and
> > > > re-installing didn't work for me.
> > > > Mozilla and Galeon crash when encountering applets;
> > > > Konqueror doesn't crash, but the applet freezes when it's 29%
> > loaded;
> > > > Netscape still refuses to even acknowledge that java is loaded.
> > > >
> > > > Where to next??
> > > >
> > > > Rich
> > > 
> > > There is a fairly high probablility that you have two java's
> > installed, and a 
> > > bad link to the *.so going (or, maybe no link at all).  Note that
> > this must 
> > > be a link to the javaplugin_oji.so, copying the *.so to the 
> > > /usr/lib/netscape/plugins directory will NOT work--same for mozilla.
> > > 
> > > Mozilla>Help>About plug-ins  shows the java that you have
> > installed??
> > > (should be the Sun version)
> > > 
> > > #java -version  returns what?  (Kaffee should be o.k., but you
> > can 
> > > uninstall it using the package manager and re-make your path to the
> > Sun 
> > > version as a last resort--since this is only for web browsers that
> > shouldn't 
> > > be necessary).  I'm trying to determine just what mods the rpm
> > installer made 
> > > to your directories and links.
> > > 
> > > Everyone else reading this--I recommend that you use the version
> > from 
> > > Blackdown if you must have a JVM because it is a bzipped tarball and
> > not a 
> > > *.bin or rpm.  If you use tarballs you can have more control of the
> > install.  
> > > Installing java ain't really hard--honest.
> > > 
> > > 1.  Download the bz2 tarball and put it in /usr/local then cd to
> > /usr/local
> > > 
> > > 2.  Unpack it with the command  tar -xvvIf name_of_tarball   (note
> > that is an 
> > > "eye" not an "ell" -- a directory /usr/local/java_version_directory
> > will be 
> > > created)
> > > 
> > > 3.  ln -s 
> > >
> > /usr/local/java_version_directory/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so   
> > >/usr/lib/mozilla plugins
> > > 
> > > 4.  Repeat for netscape (note to use the proper plugin
> > directory--moz and 
> > > netscape are different)
> > > 
> > > I don't use Galeon--you are on your own for that
> > > 
> > > If you must have a real JVM for some 3rd party program (not very
> > likely, but 
> > > possible) remove Kaffee from your system.
> > > 
> > > 1.  open /etc/profile with your favorite editor
> > > 
> > > 2.  Add the line: export 
> > PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/java_version_directory/bin
> > > 
> > > (this sets the variable PATH to the previous PATH and adds the new
> > line to it)
> > > 
> > > 3. Add the line:   export
> > JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java_version_directory
> > > 
> > > 4.  Reload /etc/profile
> > > 
> > 

RE: [newbie] Java - lost it

[rluchor]

Originally I did an upgrade on both of my computers, the laptop is still
working, but my main computer crashed about a week later, reason
unknown.  I was unable to recover from the crash,so did a fresh install.

I think my step step, if I can find the time, will be to hunt down all
vestiges of java and then do an upgrade followed by a fresh install of
java.

Rich

On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 10:32, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote:
> Did you upgrade or do a fresh install. One of the features with 9.0
> was supposed to be it's ability to upgrade over an older OS but I
> don't think that it works consistantly and may be you are better off
> with a clean install? Dennis M.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:56 AM
> To: Mandrake
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Java - lost it
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:57, erylon hines wrote:
> > On Thursday 02 January 2003 12:44 pm, you wrote:
> > 
> > > My installation is also from the discs and uninstalling and
> > > re-installing didn't work for me.
> > > Mozilla and Galeon crash when encountering applets;
> > > Konqueror doesn't crash, but the applet freezes when it's 29%
> loaded;
> > > Netscape still refuses to even acknowledge that java is loaded.
> > >
> > > Where to next??
> > >
> > > Rich
> > 
> > There is a fairly high probablility that you have two java's
> installed, and a 
> > bad link to the *.so going (or, maybe no link at all).  Note that
> this must 
> > be a link to the javaplugin_oji.so, copying the *.so to the 
> > /usr/lib/netscape/plugins directory will NOT work--same for mozilla.
> > 
> > Mozilla>Help>About plug-ins  shows the java that you have
> installed??
> > (should be the Sun version)
> > 
> > #java -version  returns what?  (Kaffee should be o.k., but you
> can 
> > uninstall it using the package manager and re-make your path to the
> Sun 
> > version as a last resort--since this is only for web browsers that
> shouldn't 
> > be necessary).  I'm trying to determine just what mods the rpm
> installer made 
> > to your directories and links.
> > 
> > Everyone else reading this--I recommend that you use the version
> from 
> > Blackdown if you must have a JVM because it is a bzipped tarball and
> not a 
> > *.bin or rpm.  If you use tarballs you can have more control of the
> install.  
> > Installing java ain't really hard--honest.
> > 
> > 1.  Download the bz2 tarball and put it in /usr/local then cd to
> /usr/local
> > 
> > 2.  Unpack it with the command  tar -xvvIf name_of_tarball   (note
> that is an 
> > "eye" not an "ell" -- a directory /usr/local/java_version_directory
> will be 
> > created)
> > 
> > 3.  ln -s 
> >
> /usr/local/java_version_directory/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so   
> >/usr/lib/mozilla plugins
> > 
> > 4.  Repeat for netscape (note to use the proper plugin
> directory--moz and 
> > netscape are different)
> > 
> > I don't use Galeon--you are on your own for that
> > 
> > If you must have a real JVM for some 3rd party program (not very
> likely, but 
> > possible) remove Kaffee from your system.
> > 
> > 1.  open /etc/profile with your favorite editor
> > 
> > 2.  Add the line: export 
> PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/java_version_directory/bin
> > 
> > (this sets the variable PATH to the previous PATH and adds the new
> line to it)
> > 
> > 3. Add the line:   export
> JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java_version_directory
> > 
> > 4.  Reload /etc/profile
> > 
> > If none of this works for you, I've exhausted my suggestions, but I
> assure 
> > you, it has worked for me.
> 
> 
> Well, I've exhausted all of my possibilities, none of the java
> installs
> will work, Sun or Blackdown or Netscape.  I've also noticed that
> Konqueror file manager crashes sometimes when I click on a Mozilla
> directory.  There's something very wrong with my installation. 
> Strangely, another computer that I upgraded (this one was a fresh
> install) works perfectly!
> 
> Thanks to everyone for all of their efforts.
> 
> Rich
> 
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RE: [newbie] Java - lost it

[Myers, Dennis R NWO]

Title: RE: [newbie] Java - lost it





Did you upgrade or do a fresh install. One of the features with 9.0 was supposed to be it's ability to upgrade over an older OS but I don't think that it works consistantly and may be you are better off with a clean install? Dennis M.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:56 AM
To: Mandrake
Subject: Re: [newbie] Java - lost it



On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:57, erylon hines wrote:
> On Thursday 02 January 2003 12:44 pm, you wrote:
> 
> > My installation is also from the discs and uninstalling and
> > re-installing didn't work for me.
> > Mozilla and Galeon crash when encountering applets;
> > Konqueror doesn't crash, but the applet freezes when it's 29% loaded;
> > Netscape still refuses to even acknowledge that java is loaded.
> >
> > Where to next??
> >
> > Rich
> 
> There is a fairly high probablility that you have two java's installed, and a 
> bad link to the *.so going (or, maybe no link at all).  Note that this must 
> be a link to the javaplugin_oji.so, copying the *.so to the 
> /usr/lib/netscape/plugins directory will NOT work--same for mozilla.
> 
> Mozilla>Help>About plug-ins  shows the java that you have installed??
> (should be the Sun version)
> 
> #java -version  returns what?  (Kaffee should be o.k., but you can 
> uninstall it using the package manager and re-make your path to the Sun 
> version as a last resort--since this is only for web browsers that shouldn't 
> be necessary).  I'm trying to determine just what mods the rpm installer made 
> to your directories and links.
> 
> Everyone else reading this--I recommend that you use the version from 
> Blackdown if you must have a JVM because it is a bzipped tarball and not a 
> *.bin or rpm.  If you use tarballs you can have more control of the install.  
> Installing java ain't really hard--honest.
> 
> 1.  Download the bz2 tarball and put it in /usr/local then cd to /usr/local
> 
> 2.  Unpack it with the command  tar -xvvIf name_of_tarball   (note that is an 
> "eye" not an "ell" -- a directory /usr/local/java_version_directory will be 
> created)
> 
> 3.  ln -s 
> /usr/local/java_version_directory/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so   
>    /usr/lib/mozilla plugins
> 
> 4.  Repeat for netscape (note to use the proper plugin directory--moz and 
> netscape are different)
> 
> I don't use Galeon--you are on your own for that
> 
> If you must have a real JVM for some 3rd party program (not very likely, but 
> possible) remove Kaffee from your system.
> 
> 1.  open /etc/profile with your favorite editor
> 
> 2.  Add the line: export  PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/java_version_directory/bin
> 
> (this sets the variable PATH to the previous PATH and adds the new line to it)
> 
> 3. Add the line:   export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java_version_directory
> 
> 4.  Reload /etc/profile
> 
> If none of this works for you, I've exhausted my suggestions, but I assure 
> you, it has worked for me.



Well, I've exhausted all of my possibilities, none of the java installs
will work, Sun or Blackdown or Netscape.  I've also noticed that
Konqueror file manager crashes sometimes when I click on a Mozilla
directory.  There's something very wrong with my installation. 
Strangely, another computer that I upgraded (this one was a fresh
install) works perfectly!


Thanks to everyone for all of their efforts.


Rich


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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[rluchor]

On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:57, erylon hines wrote:
> On Thursday 02 January 2003 12:44 pm, you wrote:
> 
> > My installation is also from the discs and uninstalling and
> > re-installing didn't work for me.
> > Mozilla and Galeon crash when encountering applets;
> > Konqueror doesn't crash, but the applet freezes when it's 29% loaded;
> > Netscape still refuses to even acknowledge that java is loaded.
> >
> > Where to next??
> >
> > Rich
> 
> There is a fairly high probablility that you have two java's installed, and a 
> bad link to the *.so going (or, maybe no link at all).  Note that this must 
> be a link to the javaplugin_oji.so, copying the *.so to the 
> /usr/lib/netscape/plugins directory will NOT work--same for mozilla.
> 
> Mozilla>Help>About plug-ins  shows the java that you have installed??
> (should be the Sun version)
> 
> #java -version  returns what?  (Kaffee should be o.k., but you can 
> uninstall it using the package manager and re-make your path to the Sun 
> version as a last resort--since this is only for web browsers that shouldn't 
> be necessary).  I'm trying to determine just what mods the rpm installer made 
> to your directories and links.
> 
> Everyone else reading this--I recommend that you use the version from 
> Blackdown if you must have a JVM because it is a bzipped tarball and not a 
> *.bin or rpm.  If you use tarballs you can have more control of the install.  
> Installing java ain't really hard--honest.
> 
> 1.  Download the bz2 tarball and put it in /usr/local then cd to /usr/local
> 
> 2.  Unpack it with the command  tar -xvvIf name_of_tarball   (note that is an 
> "eye" not an "ell" -- a directory /usr/local/java_version_directory will be 
> created)
> 
> 3.  ln -s 
> /usr/local/java_version_directory/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so   
>/usr/lib/mozilla plugins
> 
> 4.  Repeat for netscape (note to use the proper plugin directory--moz and 
> netscape are different)
> 
> I don't use Galeon--you are on your own for that
> 
> If you must have a real JVM for some 3rd party program (not very likely, but 
> possible) remove Kaffee from your system.
> 
> 1.  open /etc/profile with your favorite editor
> 
> 2.  Add the line: export  PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/java_version_directory/bin
> 
> (this sets the variable PATH to the previous PATH and adds the new line to it)
> 
> 3. Add the line:   export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java_version_directory
> 
> 4.  Reload /etc/profile
> 
> If none of this works for you, I've exhausted my suggestions, but I assure 
> you, it has worked for me.


Well, I've exhausted all of my possibilities, none of the java installs
will work, Sun or Blackdown or Netscape.  I've also noticed that
Konqueror file manager crashes sometimes when I click on a Mozilla
directory.  There's something very wrong with my installation. 
Strangely, another computer that I upgraded (this one was a fresh
install) works perfectly!

Thanks to everyone for all of their efforts.

Rich

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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[Charles A Edwards]

On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:26:20 +
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For me, java -version returns nothing at all.  I think that the rpm
> install has put things in the wrong places for me, and caused problems
> by it.  I am going to uninstall altogether and start again, making
> sure that I know where everything is going this time.  I do *not* want
> any of it installed on my old 8_2 partitions.


Anne, if you have not already done so launch Remove Software from mcc
and select the alphabetical listing and go through all the rpms which
begin with j.
Depending upon where you got, whose it is, and which version your java
rpm could be named jre, j2re, jdk, jsk, j2dk, j2sk and several other
variation of the same.

It has been mentioned before but if you have kaffee installed installed
remove it.
It will prevent the proper operation of the java rpms.


Charles


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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 9:57 pm, erylon hines wrote:
> On Thursday 02 January 2003 12:44 pm, you wrote:
> > My installation is also from the discs and uninstalling and
> > re-installing didn't work for me.
> > Mozilla and Galeon crash when encountering applets;
> > Konqueror doesn't crash, but the applet freezes when it's 29% loaded;
> > Netscape still refuses to even acknowledge that java is loaded.
> >
> > Where to next??
> >
> > Rich
>
> There is a fairly high probablility that you have two java's installed, and
> a bad link to the *.so going (or, maybe no link at all).  Note that this
> must be a link to the javaplugin_oji.so, copying the *.so to the
> /usr/lib/netscape/plugins directory will NOT work--same for mozilla.
>
> Mozilla>Help>About plug-ins  shows the java that you have installed??
> (should be the Sun version)
>
> #java -version  returns what?  (Kaffee should be o.k., but you can
> uninstall it using the package manager and re-make your path to the Sun
> version as a last resort--since this is only for web browsers that
> shouldn't be necessary).  I'm trying to determine just what mods the rpm
> installer made to your directories and links.
>

For me, java -version returns nothing at all.  I think that the rpm install 
has put things in the wrong places for me, and caused problems by it.  I am 
going to uninstall altogether and start again, making sure that I know where 
everything is going this time.  I do *not* want any of it installed on my old 
8_2 partitions.

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Java

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 8:50 pm, erylon hines wrote:
> On Thursday 02 January 2003 05:26 am, you wrote:
> > Erylon - the rpm that Tom recommended has screwed up my system as regards
> > java.  I think the links and path are wrong.  Can you please list the
> > files that I may need to check/edit?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Anne
>
> I've never used that rpm, so I defer to Tom on that.  I can speculate that
> the rpm didn't remake the java link to the moz plugin directory, though (I
> am assuming you only use java for your web browsers. Other than for that,
> most people don't even need java).  If you know where the rpm made the java
> directory, you can manually re-make the link correctly.  As an aside, I've
> found that #ln -s /usr/javaplugindirectory/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so
> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins when done globally, can cause the plugin
> directory to be hosed when mozilla is upgraded, forcing a delete and
> re-install of moz.  This is a minor irritation, and its probably a good
> idea to delete the old mozilla first anyway--just my experience ymmv.
>
> If you don't actually need a jvm on your machine for running a 3rd party
> program, Kaffee is o.k. to keep.   Do a   #java -version  and
> see if you still get a return for Kaffee.  If you get a return for Sun's
> java, the rpm did re-make the $PATH.  If not, it didn't, so that's not the
> problem.  If you get a "no java found" type error, then there is no java in
> your path and you'll have to find where it is and add it.
>
> A #which javanormally points to /usr/bin/java.  This may or may not be
> correct for you, depending on the behavior of the rpm (I again defer to
> Tom). I've removed Kaffee and with it the /usr/bin/java, so the path to the
> new /java_directory/bin/java may need to be added.
>
> I know this isn't much help, but the problem must be identified before it
> can be corrected.  I repeat, I haven't used that rpm (I'm a tarball kinda
> guy), so I do not know its behavior.
>
> e.

Thanks - it gives me a few more pointers to explore.

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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[erylon hines]

On Thursday 02 January 2003 12:44 pm, you wrote:

> My installation is also from the discs and uninstalling and
> re-installing didn't work for me.
> Mozilla and Galeon crash when encountering applets;
> Konqueror doesn't crash, but the applet freezes when it's 29% loaded;
> Netscape still refuses to even acknowledge that java is loaded.
>
> Where to next??
>
> Rich

There is a fairly high probablility that you have two java's installed, and a 
bad link to the *.so going (or, maybe no link at all).  Note that this must 
be a link to the javaplugin_oji.so, copying the *.so to the 
/usr/lib/netscape/plugins directory will NOT work--same for mozilla.

Mozilla>Help>About plug-ins  shows the java that you have installed??
(should be the Sun version)

#java -version  returns what?  (Kaffee should be o.k., but you can 
uninstall it using the package manager and re-make your path to the Sun 
version as a last resort--since this is only for web browsers that shouldn't 
be necessary).  I'm trying to determine just what mods the rpm installer made 
to your directories and links.

Everyone else reading this--I recommend that you use the version from 
Blackdown if you must have a JVM because it is a bzipped tarball and not a 
*.bin or rpm.  If you use tarballs you can have more control of the install.  
Installing java ain't really hard--honest.

1.  Download the bz2 tarball and put it in /usr/local then cd to /usr/local

2.  Unpack it with the command  tar -xvvIf name_of_tarball   (note that is an 
"eye" not an "ell" -- a directory /usr/local/java_version_directory will be 
created)

3.  ln -s 
/usr/local/java_version_directory/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so   
   /usr/lib/mozilla plugins

4.  Repeat for netscape (note to use the proper plugin directory--moz and 
netscape are different)

I don't use Galeon--you are on your own for that

If you must have a real JVM for some 3rd party program (not very likely, but 
possible) remove Kaffee from your system.

1.  open /etc/profile with your favorite editor

2.  Add the line: export  PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/java_version_directory/bin

(this sets the variable PATH to the previous PATH and adds the new line to it)

3. Add the line:   export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java_version_directory

4.  Reload /etc/profile

If none of this works for you, I've exhausted my suggestions, but I assure 
you, it has worked for me.

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Re: [newbie] Java

[erylon hines]

On Thursday 02 January 2003 05:26 am, you wrote:
>
>
> Erylon - the rpm that Tom recommended has screwed up my system as regards
> java.  I think the links and path are wrong.  Can you please list the files
> that I may need to check/edit?
>
> Thanks
>
> Anne

I've never used that rpm, so I defer to Tom on that.  I can speculate that 
the rpm didn't remake the java link to the moz plugin directory, though (I am 
assuming you only use java for your web browsers. Other than for that, 
most people don't even need java).  If you know where the rpm made the java 
directory, you can manually re-make the link correctly.  As an aside, I've 
found that #ln -s /usr/javaplugindirectory/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins when done globally, can cause the plugin 
directory to be hosed when mozilla is upgraded, forcing a delete and 
re-install of moz.  This is a minor irritation, and its probably a good idea 
to delete the old mozilla first anyway--just my experience ymmv.

If you don't actually need a jvm on your machine for running a 3rd party 
program, Kaffee is o.k. to keep.   Do a   #java -version  and 
see if you still get a return for Kaffee.  If you get a return for Sun's 
java, the rpm did re-make the $PATH.  If not, it didn't, so that's not the 
problem.  If you get a "no java found" type error, then there is no java in 
your path and you'll have to find where it is and add it.

A #which javanormally points to /usr/bin/java.  This may or may not be 
correct for you, depending on the behavior of the rpm (I again defer to Tom). 
I've removed Kaffee and with it the /usr/bin/java, so the path to the new 
/java_directory/bin/java may need to be added.

I know this isn't much help, but the problem must be identified before it can 
be corrected.  I repeat, I haven't used that rpm (I'm a tarball kinda guy), 
so I do not know its behavior.

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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[rluchor]

On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 12:25, Anne Wilson wrote:

> 
>   I suspect the problem is with your Mozilla install. Tho I have no
> > idea what is maybe wrong (and I'm now usin the newer 9.1 cooker
> > version 1.3-0.alpha.1mdk).
> 
> It's the standard install from 9.0's discs.  I don't feel confident at using 
> cooker versions yet.  I could uninstall and re-install I suppose.
> 
> I think the next thing to try is to check for suitable links in the Mozilla 
> directory.

My installation is also from the discs and uninstalling and
re-installing didn't work for me.
Mozilla and Galeon crash when encountering applets;
Konqueror doesn't crash, but the applet freezes when it's 29% loaded;
Netscape still refuses to even acknowledge that java is loaded.

Where to next??

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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 6:09 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Thursday January 2 2003 11:25 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > I suspect the problem is with your Mozilla install. Tho I
> > > have no idea what is maybe wrong (and I'm now usin the newer 9.1
> > > cooker version 1.3-0.alpha.1mdk).
> >
> > It's the standard install from 9.0's discs.  I don't feel confident
> > at using cooker versions yet.
>
>... and you can't either, except on a full cooker install of 9.1.
> I only mentioned that to imply I don't have 9.0's older Mozilla
> anymore. Anne, I'm out'a ideas with your Mozilla install. But as I
> ranted about in a previous reply, they're are no guarantees as soon
> as you taint a system with closed source stuff, ie, Sun's java. It
> may or may not work.  Lobby Sun to release OSS java.

OK - thanks for all your efforts.  I am nearer than I was, but we'll see what 
happens.

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[Tom Brinkman]

On Thursday January 2 2003 11:25 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

> > I suspect the problem is with your Mozilla install. Tho I
> > have no idea what is maybe wrong (and I'm now usin the newer 9.1
> > cooker version 1.3-0.alpha.1mdk).
>
> It's the standard install from 9.0's discs.  I don't feel confident
> at using cooker versions yet. 

   ... and you can't either, except on a full cooker install of 9.1.
I only mentioned that to imply I don't have 9.0's older Mozilla 
anymore. Anne, I'm out'a ideas with your Mozilla install. But as I 
ranted about in a previous reply, they're are no guarantees as soon 
as you taint a system with closed source stuff, ie, Sun's java. It 
may or may not work.  Lobby Sun to release OSS java.
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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 2:47 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Wednesday January 1 2003 01:25 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Looking again at what you wrote originally, I get the same output
> > as you for the command
> >
> > ll /usr/bin/java
>
> Including rwx permissions for users (lrwxrwxrwx) ?
> . 
Yes - it's all OK  ^^^
>
> > However, it looks to me as though it has not been added to the
> > path, since what I get from the next command is:
> >
> > [root@anne-linux anne]# echo $PATH
> > /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/lo
> >cal/sbin [root@anne-linux anne]#
>
>   Mea culpa. When I first replied I had Mandrake's j2re 1.4.0
> installed, and that rpm does add jre to your path.  Since then I've
> upgraded to Mandrake's j2re 1.4.1. It _doesn't_ add jre to the path.
> (MOF, the upgrade removed it from mine).

and this removed it from mine - and the java.sh from /etc/profile.d
>
> It shouldn't matter tho since it does create the link '/usr/bin/java
> -> /etc/alternatives/java*' and '/usr/bin' should be in your path.
> BTW, run 'echo $PATH' as user, since you'll need java as user.
>
[anne@anne-linux anne]$ echo $PATH
/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/home/anne/bin
[anne@anne-linux anne]$

Why are there two // in /usr//bin?  Does /usr/bin include all subdirectories?

> I suspect the problem is with your Mozilla install. Tho I have no
> idea what is maybe wrong (and I'm now usin the newer 9.1 cooker
> version 1.3-0.alpha.1mdk).

It's the standard install from 9.0's discs.  I don't feel confident at using 
cooker versions yet.  I could uninstall and re-install I suppose.

I think the next thing to try is to check for suitable links in the Mozilla 
directory.

Any other ideas gratefully welcomed.

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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 01 Jan 2003 7:17 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Wednesday January 1 2003 07:40 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Java was running correctly under Galeon but not under Mozilla.  I
> > had hoped that this would fix it.  Instead, I now show no plugins
> > for Java or Javascript under either.  The only good thing is that
> > it has confirmed that my problems in Mozilla were caused by this,
> > because now Galeon doesn't work either.
> >
> > I presume there's a link problem.  What should I do now?
> >
> > Anne
>
>Dunno (?), not quite sure I understand your problems Anne. FWIW,
> the 'Club' Mandrake Sun java rpm has been available for quite some
> time. Updated versions available as soon as Sun releases 'em. I've
> only used them with Mozilla and Konqueror, mostly 99% Konqueror.  I
> only use java to avoid, like with Flash, error or crashes when I go
> to some web pages.
>
Some sites - like my on-line banking - won't operate without it, so there's no 
choice really.

Konqeror continues to function correctly.  Even though I have lost the java 
plugins under Mozilla and Galeon.

Looking again at what you wrote originally, I get the same output as you for 
the command

ll /usr/bin/java

However, it looks to me as though it has not been added to the path, since 
what I get from the next command is:

[root@anne-linux anne]# echo $PATH
/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin
[root@anne-linux anne]#

When I installed jre before, according to my notes I had to put a shell script 
into etc/profile.d, which defined the Java_Home variable, export it, add 
$Java_Home/bin to the path, and export that.  Do I need to do anything like 
that?

I'm convinced that Java must be working OK, or Konq couldn't be using it 
(unless that is still finding the old install), so my guess is that the 
problem is either links or paths.

Can you or anyone help, please?

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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[Tom Brinkman]

On Wednesday January 1 2003 07:40 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

> Java was running correctly under Galeon but not under Mozilla.  I
> had hoped that this would fix it.  Instead, I now show no plugins
> for Java or Javascript under either.  The only good thing is that
> it has confirmed that my problems in Mozilla were caused by this,
> because now Galeon doesn't work either.
>
> I presume there's a link problem.  What should I do now?
>
> Anne

   Dunno (?), not quite sure I understand your problems Anne. FWIW, 
the 'Club' Mandrake Sun java rpm has been available for quite some 
time. Updated versions available as soon as Sun releases 'em. I've 
only used them with Mozilla and Konqueror, mostly 99% Konqueror.  I 
only use java to avoid, like with Flash, error or crashes when I go 
to some web pages.

   Otherwise, IMO, both would be banned from the Net (as would M$ 
users and all virus proliferating proprietary closed source crap). 
But I seldom get my way ;>  Still think it's a better way for 'peace 
on earth', open source that is. At least it'd be auditable and better 
free from 'welcome to crackers' and soft/hard conflicts as it is now. 

As such it's possible that you might (ie, auditable) have some 
hardware problems with java under Linux. Closed source can't possibly 
be supported, hardware or software. I use Mandrake's Sun java version 
since I suspect they've done all they can to make sure it doesn't 
cause conflicts or security holes... even without the source. Plus 
it's a user error free install.

   Since you now 'show no plugins for Java or Javascript under 
either', I believe I'd undo/uninstall your efforts to date, then just 
install the Mandrake/Sun java rpm.  It really does do everything for 
you, which avoids user bumps in the road.  'rpm -Uvh' should reveal 
any needed deps, but you might also do it with
'urpmi j2re-1.4.1_01-5mdk'
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Re: [newbie] Java

[Tom Brinkman]

On Wednesday January 1 2003 07:40 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 21:09, Tom Brinkman wrote:

> >Yeah, too many steps. Nutscrape was the first mistake ;>
> >  'rpm -Uvh j2re-1.4.1_01-5mdk'  rpm makes java available globally
> > to all apps (browsers too). You do nothin, and can't screw it up
> > ;)
> >
> >  It's available from the Club, or maybe from /unsupported
> > mirrors.
>
> Thanks, I'll look for it.  BTW, which browser do you recommend?
>
> Rich

   I use Konqueror for all but two banking sites that insist on either 
IExpolder, or Nutscrape ... for those I use Mozilla. Actually one of 
the sites accepts Konqueror, but due to insistin on me usin their off 
the wall selected id/psword's. I use Mozilla since it auto fills 'em 
in.
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Re: [newbie] Java

[rluchor]

On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 23:34, Jerry wrote:
> How about if one has installed it from the binaries available at java.sun.com?
> I installed java from there (not a Club member), and linked 
>/usr/lib/mozilla-1.1/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so to 
>~/j2sdk1.4.1_01/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so
> (it installed the binary in my home dir)
> but if galeon or mozilla comes across any java it just closes (crashes).

Exactly the same problem that I'm having, Galeon crashes on any page
that has java and Netscape refuses to recognize that it's there.

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Re: [newbie] Java

[Jerry]

How about if one has installed it from the binaries available at java.sun.com?
I installed java from there (not a Club member), and linked 
/usr/lib/mozilla-1.1/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so to 
~/j2sdk1.4.1_01/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so
(it installed the binary in my home dir)
but if galeon or mozilla comes across any java it just closes (crashes).

about:plugins gives:

Installed plug-ins
Find more information about browser plug-ins at Netscape.com.

Java(TM) Plug-in 1.4.1_01-b01

File name: libjavaplugin_oji.so
Java(TM) Plug-in1.4.1_01
then a list of mime types (and under Enabled it says "Yes")


do i need to use a different version of java?



On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 20:09:38 -0600
Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday December 31 2002 01:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > This may be a little off topic, but it's driving me crazy.
> >
> > I recently upgraded to Mandrake 9.0 from 8.2 and had a mysterious
> > crash and wasn't able to recover or salvage anything.  I decided to
> > start over from scratch and just downloaded Netscape 7.0.  I also
> > require Java and downloaded the latest version, 1.4.1.
> >
> > I extracted the java files and set up the KDE control
> > center/Netscape plugin utility to find the new plugin, which it
> > did.  The problem is that Netscape doesn't load the new java
> > plugin.  Did I miss a step?
> 
>Yeah, too many steps. Nutscrape was the first mistake ;>
>  'rpm -Uvh j2re-1.4.1_01-5mdk'  rpm makes java available globally to 
> all apps (browsers too). You do nothin, and can't screw it up ;)
> 
>  It's available from the Club, or maybe from /unsupported mirrors.
> -- 
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> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] Java - lost it

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 01 Jan 2003 1:15 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Wednesday January 1 2003 06:36 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > >  'rpm -Uvh j2re-1.4.1 01-5mdk'  rpm makes java available globally
> > > to all apps (browsers too). You do nothin, and can't screw it up
> > > ;)
> > >
> > >  It's available from the Club, or maybe from /unsupported
> > > mirrors.
> >
> > Tom - do you do this as root?
> >
> > Anne
>
> Anne, I suppose you're refering to 'rpm-UvhYes, do it as
> root. Just installing the j2re rpm takes care of making the needed
> links for you, eg
>
>  tom$ ll /usr/bin/java
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 22 Dec 31 19:57 /usr/bin/java ->
> /etc/alternatives/java*
>
>. adds jre to your path
>  tom$ echo $PATH
> /usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:
> /usr/lib/jre-1.4.0_01/bin:/home/tom/bin
>
>... and takes care of anything else while it's at it ;) I don't
> believe it's even neccesary to uninstall kaffe first, but I always
> do.

Java was running correctly under Galeon but not under Mozilla.  I had hoped 
that this would fix it.  Instead, I now show no plugins for Java or 
Javascript under either.  The only good thing is that it has confirmed that 
my problems in Mozilla were caused by this, because now Galeon doesn't work 
either.

I presume there's a link problem.  What should I do now?

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Re: [newbie] Java

[rluchor]

On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 21:09, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Tuesday December 31 2002 01:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > This may be a little off topic, but it's driving me crazy.
> >
> > I recently upgraded to Mandrake 9.0 from 8.2 and had a mysterious
> > crash and wasn't able to recover or salvage anything.  I decided to
> > start over from scratch and just downloaded Netscape 7.0.  I also
> > require Java and downloaded the latest version, 1.4.1.
> >
> > I extracted the java files and set up the KDE control
> > center/Netscape plugin utility to find the new plugin, which it
> > did.  The problem is that Netscape doesn't load the new java
> > plugin.  Did I miss a step?
> 
>Yeah, too many steps. Nutscrape was the first mistake ;>
>  'rpm -Uvh j2re-1.4.1_01-5mdk'  rpm makes java available globally to 
> all apps (browsers too). You do nothin, and can't screw it up ;)
> 
>  It's available from the Club, or maybe from /unsupported mirrors.

Thanks, I'll look for it.  BTW, which browser do you recommend?

Rich

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Re: [newbie] Java

[Tom Brinkman]

On Wednesday January 1 2003 06:36 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

> >  'rpm -Uvh j2re-1.4.1 01-5mdk'  rpm makes java available globally
> > to all apps (browsers too). You do nothin, and can't screw it up
> > ;)
> >
> >  It's available from the Club, or maybe from /unsupported
> > mirrors.
>
> Tom - do you do this as root?
>
> Anne

Anne, I suppose you're refering to 'rpm-UvhYes, do it as 
root. Just installing the j2re rpm takes care of making the needed 
links for you, eg

 tom$ ll /usr/bin/java
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 22 Dec 31 19:57 /usr/bin/java -> 
/etc/alternatives/java*

   . adds jre to your path
 tom$ echo $PATH
/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:
/usr/lib/jre-1.4.0_01/bin:/home/tom/bin

   ... and takes care of anything else while it's at it ;) I don't 
believe it's even neccesary to uninstall kaffe first, but I always 
do.
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Re: [newbie] Java

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 01 Jan 2003 2:09 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Tuesday December 31 2002 01:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > This may be a little off topic, but it's driving me crazy.
> >
> > I recently upgraded to Mandrake 9.0 from 8.2 and had a mysterious
> > crash and wasn't able to recover or salvage anything.  I decided to
> > start over from scratch and just downloaded Netscape 7.0.  I also
> > require Java and downloaded the latest version, 1.4.1.
> >
> > I extracted the java files and set up the KDE control
> > center/Netscape plugin utility to find the new plugin, which it
> > did.  The problem is that Netscape doesn't load the new java
> > plugin.  Did I miss a step?
>
>Yeah, too many steps. Nutscrape was the first mistake ;>
>  'rpm -Uvh j2re-1.4.1_01-5mdk'  rpm makes java available globally to
> all apps (browsers too). You do nothin, and can't screw it up ;)
>
>  It's available from the Club, or maybe from /unsupported mirrors.

Tom - do you do this as root?

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Java

[Tom Brinkman]

On Tuesday December 31 2002 01:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This may be a little off topic, but it's driving me crazy.
>
> I recently upgraded to Mandrake 9.0 from 8.2 and had a mysterious
> crash and wasn't able to recover or salvage anything.  I decided to
> start over from scratch and just downloaded Netscape 7.0.  I also
> require Java and downloaded the latest version, 1.4.1.
>
> I extracted the java files and set up the KDE control
> center/Netscape plugin utility to find the new plugin, which it
> did.  The problem is that Netscape doesn't load the new java
> plugin.  Did I miss a step?

   Yeah, too many steps. Nutscrape was the first mistake ;>
 'rpm -Uvh j2re-1.4.1_01-5mdk'  rpm makes java available globally to 
all apps (browsers too). You do nothin, and can't screw it up ;)

 It's available from the Club, or maybe from /unsupported mirrors.
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Re: [newbie] java

[Mark Weaver]

Ted wrote:
> I am trying to get java to run in Konq and Mozilla...
> I have the permissions setup ok but Konq tells me java applet is loading
> and then sticks and Mozilla tells me I need a Netscape plugin...I d/load 
> the plugin and it fails to install with an error 202 message..
> Anyone tell me where I am going wrong please
> 

Hi Ted,

This fix is easy. Start Mozilla as root and navigate to a page that you 
know requires the java plugin. (NOTE: if you're using a version of 
Mozilla later then 1.0 this will likely not work. The plugin retreival 
thing is slightly broken in versions later then 1.0.) When you hit the 
page Mozilla will display a plugin symbol on the page and tell you it 
requires a plugin to properly display the page and then give an option 
to download and install the plugin. Since you're running as root you can 
easily do this.

Download the plugin and allow the browser to install it. Then, restart 
Mozilla as a normal user and you're set.

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Re: [newbie] java

[John Richard Smith]

Ted wrote:

> John Richard Smith wrote:
>
>> Ted wrote:
>>
>>> Hi..
>>> I am trying to enable java in Mozilla and Konq...I have set the 
>>> permissions in the setup screens but in Konq when I connect to a 
>>> java site it tells me it is waiting for applet to be loaded and 
>>> nothing happens and in Mozilla it tells me to d/load a plugin from 
>>> Netscape...
>>> I d/loaded this but it did not install and gave me an error 202 
>>> message
>>> Any help appreciated...
>>>
>>>
>> Appears to be something to do with the way it has installed,see,
>> http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/bannerblind/2002-June/58.html
>> http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/multizilla/2001-October/000284.html
>> http://www.brlug.net/pipermail/newbies_brlug.net/2001-February/03.html 
>>
>> http://www.brlug.net/pipermail/newbies_brlug.net/2002-April/05.html
>>
>> error 202 seems to be one of those slippery error messages used to mean
>> something is wrong but I don't have a specific error message in my error
>> message files so this is the one you're going to get regardless.
>>
>> One thing you don't say what versions of mozilla you are attempting to
>> install java on, is it mandrakes version or the maozilla website 
>> download,
>> mozilla V1,0 cause I think it makes a difference which way you did it.
>>
>> John
>>
> Hi
> Thanks for the reply..The version I use is from the Mandrake 
> cdrom..ie
>
> [root@localhost /]# mozilla --version
> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020204, 
> build 2002031216
> I did the install from a coverdisk and am wondering if I bought the 
> 3cd pack it would install java automatically...I know several people 
> who havew no problem with java so this is perhaps the route they have 
> taken ??
> Regards
>   Ted Wager
>
>
Well I had the mandrake version on my M8.2, configured it and all, went 
browsing on the net , and every time I hit a website that required java 
I was told there and then to go to such and such a site and download 
Java, I think the website was netscape, not entirely sure though.Anyway 
I did that and it didn't work for me , I guess like you. Now I do 
believe there are rpm java
files on the net somewhere , you might try typing java into the 
www.rpmfind.net   web search engine and see what comes up for 
downloading. Install them and see it they work.

However I resolved the issue by removing the mandrake mozilla version
and went out to mozilla direct and downloaded the short little download
programme that resides there, you run that programme follow the 
instructions and you end up with the lates mozilla v1,0 . Then you go out
to a website that requires java, they nearly all do these days, and 
again the
message pops up to go download again the java script plugin, I think
it's called java realtime something or other , this one works.

Incidentally there are plenty of other puggins too.

John

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Re: [newbie] java

[Ted]

John Richard Smith wrote:
> Ted wrote:
> 
>> Hi..
>> I am trying to enable java in Mozilla and Konq...I have set the 
>> permissions in the setup screens but in Konq when I connect to a java 
>> site it tells me it is waiting for applet to be loaded and nothing 
>> happens and in Mozilla it tells me to d/load a plugin from Netscape...
>> I d/loaded this but it did not install and gave me an error 202 
>> message
>> Any help appreciated...
>>
>>
> Appears to be something to do with the way it has installed,see,
> http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/bannerblind/2002-June/58.html
> http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/multizilla/2001-October/000284.html
> http://www.brlug.net/pipermail/newbies_brlug.net/2001-February/03.html
> http://www.brlug.net/pipermail/newbies_brlug.net/2002-April/05.html
> 
> error 202 seems to be one of those slippery error messages used to mean
> something is wrong but I don't have a specific error message in my error
> message files so this is the one you're going to get regardless.
> 
> One thing you don't say what versions of mozilla you are attempting to
> install java on, is it mandrakes version or the maozilla website download,
> mozilla V1,0 cause I think it makes a difference which way you did it.
> 
> John
> 
Hi
Thanks for the reply..The version I use is from the Mandrake cdrom..ie

[root@localhost /]# mozilla --version
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020204, build 
2002031216
I did the install from a coverdisk and am wondering if I bought the 3cd 
pack it would install java automatically...I know several people who 
havew no problem with java so this is perhaps the route they have taken ??
Regards
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Re: [newbie] java

[John Richard Smith]

Ted wrote:

> Hi..
> I am trying to enable java in Mozilla and Konq...I have set the 
> permissions in the setup screens but in Konq when I connect to a java 
> site it tells me it is waiting for applet to be loaded and nothing 
> happens and in Mozilla it tells me to d/load a plugin from Netscape...
> I d/loaded this but it did not install and gave me an error 202 
> message
> Any help appreciated...
>
>
Appears to be something to do with the way it has installed,see,
http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/bannerblind/2002-June/58.html
http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/multizilla/2001-October/000284.html
http://www.brlug.net/pipermail/newbies_brlug.net/2001-February/03.html
http://www.brlug.net/pipermail/newbies_brlug.net/2002-April/05.html

error 202 seems to be one of those slippery error messages used to mean
something is wrong but I don't have a specific error message in my error
message files so this is the one you're going to get regardless.

One thing you don't say what versions of mozilla you are attempting to
install java on, is it mandrakes version or the maozilla website download,
mozilla V1,0 cause I think it makes a difference which way you did it.

John

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Re: [newbie] Java, Apache, Opera

[Todd Slater]

On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 18:06:21 +0100
Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sunday 09 June 2002 5:09 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
> > I thought I had Opera set up to run java--sometimes it works,
> > sometimes it doesn't. It works on the Sun page (http://java.sun.com/),
> > but it doesn't work when I try to play Diamond Mine
> > (http://www.popcap.com/index.php).
> >
> > I'm trying to serve the SOJA applet for serving SMIL
> > presentations--added MIME type to Apache, applet and SMIL presentation
> > work in Mozilla, not Opera. S, I think Apache is OK, but when
> > trying to look at the page in Opera, the Java Console pops up, and I
> > get the gray box that says Java Applet Loading, but that's as far as
> > it gets. The page in question is
> > http://clevername.homeip.net/present/soja.html.
> >
> > Is this a question for the Opera list, or does anybody here have
> > experience with this? I'm running 6.01 static QT. (LM 8.1)
> 
> 
> I think the www.popcap.com problem is because of the javascript used to
> launch the applet. Opera does not support some javascript extensions.
> That site works fine for me in Galeon/Mozilla.  - Nice game. My daughter
> will like that one.
> 
> As for your homepage, it does not work for me in Opera either, but 
> konqueror/Galeon has no trouble. You might like to mention that on the
> opera.linux newsgroup
> 
> (Nice looking kids  :-)
> 
> derek

Thanks--just the youngest is mine, but we've got another that will be here
soon! I did mention it on opera.linux. I read a bunch of posts regarding
java. The interesting thing (to me) is that it loads in Opera fine when
run locally, but when I try to pull it over the web, nothing.


-- 
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opinions which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. (Thomas
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Re: [newbie] Java, Apache, Opera

[Derek Jennings]

On Sunday 09 June 2002 5:09 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
> I thought I had Opera set up to run java--sometimes it works, sometimes it
> doesn't. It works on the Sun page (http://java.sun.com/), but it doesn't
> work when I try to play Diamond Mine (http://www.popcap.com/index.php).
>
> I'm trying to serve the SOJA applet for serving SMIL presentations--added
> MIME type to Apache, applet and SMIL presentation work in Mozilla, not
> Opera. S, I think Apache is OK, but when trying to look at the page in
> Opera, the Java Console pops up, and I get the gray box that says Java
> Applet Loading, but that's as far as it gets. The page in question is
> http://clevername.homeip.net/present/soja.html.
>
> Is this a question for the Opera list, or does anybody here have
> experience with this? I'm running 6.01 static QT. (LM 8.1)


I think the www.popcap.com problem is because of the javascript used to launch 
the applet. Opera does not support some javascript extensions. That site 
works fine for me in Galeon/Mozilla.  - Nice game. My daughter will like that 
one.

As for your homepage, it does not work for me in Opera either, but 
konqueror/Galeon has no trouble. You might like to mention that on the
opera.linux newsgroup

(Nice looking kids  :-)

derek



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Re: [newbie] Java development

[Azrael]

Just realised BlueJ works on linux that's what I'm used to using 
*ducks the irate crowd throwing stones* ... thanks for everyone's help.. 
with everything :)

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Re: [newbie] Java development

[Raffaele Belardi]

Another ide is Forte for Java, downloadable from Sun. Judging on its 
slowness, I guess it is written in Java, too...

I am by no means an expert in Java or Java IDE, so I will not judge it. 
Anyway I found that to make it execute a large applet I had to modify 
one kernel variable. I wrote about this on the expert list, the message 
is the following:

 >I had problems running a fairly big applet in the Forte for Java 3.0 
 >with JSDK 1.3.1: the IDE started ok, but when I tried to execute the 
 >applet I got an "out of memory" error (on a 128Mbyte machine).
 >
 >I found out that for some reason the threads-max kernel tunable was 
set >to 1024, which turns out to be too small for the IDE. [is this a 
 >default for MDK 8.1, or was it changed when I played with the security 
 >things?]
 >
 >Changing to 32K with
 ># echo 32768 > /proc/sys/kernel/threads-max
 >fixed the issue.

bye,

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Azrael,
> 
> I'm not familiar with bluej. Is it an ide? If yes, you might want to try
> JBuilder Personal. I believe version 7 is now available. The ide is written
> in java so it will run on any OS with jvm support. There are also a lot of
> free extensions available via the opentools api.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Azrael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 6:57 AM
> To: Mandrake Newbie List
> Subject: [newbie] Java development
> 
> 
> I'm about to start work on my MSc project which will be done in java - 
> unfortunatly.
> I've just moved over from windows completly.. so have never done any 
> java under linux - although I am not totally new to linux.
> 
> Having used bluej under windows - is there any product of equal 
> simplicity that I can use under linux? Any tips/comments on the best 
> utilities to use for java?
> 
> -- Azrael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] Java install error

[Derek Jennings]

On Wednesday 29 May 2002 3:30 am, Angus Auld wrote:
> Greetings to all
>
> I have tried to install j2re 1.4.0 from Sun on my 8.2 system. I got the
> j2re-1_4_0-
> linux-i386.rpm.bin and ran the install script giving me,
> j2re-1_4_0-fcs-linux-
> i386.rpm.
>
> I then ran the rpm command, rpm -iv j2re-1_4_0-fcs-linux-i386.rpm.
> I then got a checksum error on /usr/java/j2re1.4.0/lib/fonts/LucindaB.
>
> I then tried to rpm -e the package, but I am told that it is not installed.
> However, I now have a /usr/java/j2re1.4.0folder containing lots of files
> on my system where there was none before.
>
> I am very new to Linux, and would appreciate some help as to how I may
> remove the
> j2re components from my system so I can hopefully reinstall correctly.
>
> --Angus

Bad luck on getting the checksum failure. I am surprised rpminst does not 
confirm the checksums before installing anything.  Unless the problem is 
actually writing on your hard drive?


You can confirm if java is actually installed with

rpm -q j2re

If it comes back and says it is not installed then you should be able to 
download the file again and reinstall. All the existing files will just get 
overwritten.

If it is installed then
rpm -e   

will remove it.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] java runtime environment

[shane]

On Thursday 23 May 2002 05:09 pm, Michael Kovary opened a general hailing 
frequency and transmitted to all open stations:

> Sure, I didn't mean to upload if it WAS something I'd have to pay for
> noramally.  I'll consider joining if it's worth it.

well it is worth it in my opinion, but in my opinion the worth is to help 
insure there is a mandrakesoft to make my prefered OS.  there are some fair 
benifits though, like cheap help from mandrake expert, star office for the 
silver lvl, etc.  but do it to support them, not to get benifits.

-- 
Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be 
tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what?

shane
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Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98
Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/
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Re: [newbie] java runtime environment

[Michael Kovary]

Sure, I didn't mean to upload if it WAS something I'd have to pay for
noramally.  I'll consider joining if it's worth it.
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] java runtime environment


> On Thursday 23 May 2002 08:51 am, Michael Kovary wrote:
> > Would I have to pay to join mandrake club?  If so, is there
> > anywhere else I can get it?  Or maybe you can upload it to server
> > for downloading if that's possible.
>
> Well, it's not real possible.  First there's good reason that
> Mandrake made it available to Club members, and I wouldn't want to
> infringe on them.  Second it's proprietary, so Sun wouldn't likely
> appreciate it either.  Third, I've only got a 33,6 connection and the
> rpm is 20 MB.  Sorry, I just thought I'd make y'all aware that j2re's
> installation can be quick and simple.  In any event I believe my
> Konqueror advice will work no matter where you get j2re.
>
>I'd encourage you to join the Club. ;)  You can almost recoup the
> membership cost the first time you d/l Mandrake, or get it from
> Cheapbytes, and Mandrake benefits much more than when you buy the
> Power Pack.   Plus you get the other benefits the Club offers.
> --
> Tom Brinkman        Corpus Christi, Texas
> >
> >
> > From: Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: [newbie] java runtime environment
> > >Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:05:40 -0500
> > >
> > >On Wednesday 22 May 2002 10:24 pm, Michael Kovary wrote:
> > > > Allright.  After copying the file into the mozilla plugins
> > > > directory, both mozilla and galeon completely crash and exit
> > > > whenever I try opening a page with java.  I've also tried
> > > > symlinking to the files, and they don't crash but want me to
> > > > install it.
> > >
> > >  Open mozilla and typeabout:plugins   in the location bar
> > >you should see somethin like,
> > >
> > >Java(TM) Plug-in 1.4.0-b92
> > > File name:
> > >/usr/lib/jre-1.4.0/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji140.so
> > >Java(TM) Plug-in1.4.0
> > >Mime Type Description Suffixes Enabled
> > >application/x-java-vm Java(tm) Plug-in Yes
> > >   << snipped a bunch of other java plugins >>
> > >application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.4 Java(tm) Plug-in Yes
> > >
> > >  IIRC, all I did was install  j2re-1.4.0-1mdk.i586.rpm  and
> > > did nothin to configure java for mozilla, other than to check
> > > 'about:plugins'.  For Konqueror I went into the Netscape plugins
> > > configuration, clicked on 'New' and added
> > >   $HOME/.mozilla/plugins  (rather than $HOME/.netscape/plugins,
> > > since nutscrape isn't installed) and made sure it was at the top.
> > >  Then clicking on 'Scan for new plugins'  added jre-1.4 and any
> > > other stuff installed for mozilla (eg, flash) to Konqeror.   No
> > > moving, copying, or linking files needed.
> > >
> > >  Not sure but I believe I got j2re-1.4.0-1mdk.i586.rpm  from
> > > the Mandrake Club downloads.
> > >
> > >--
> > > Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas
>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] java runtime environment

[Charlie]

May 23, 2002 07:53 am,Michael Kovary wrote:
> They appear installed when I have the files copied to the plugins folder,
> but not with links.
~~
You may want to read the last part of this link:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/languages/java/linux_java/JDK-1.3.1/i386/FCS-02a/INSTALL-j2re

Mozilla/Netscape and probably Galeon as a nutscrape based browser will not 
work just by copying the plug-ins to the relevant directory. You have to use 
a symlink apparently. It worked for me any way.

HTH
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ingredients list is not on the can. If you call to ask about the 
ingredients, you are told that "you don't need to know." A notice on the 
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Re: [newbie] java runtime environment

[Bill Davidson]

On Thu, 23 May 2002 07:51:42 -0600
"Michael Kovary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Would I have to pay to join mandrake club?  If so, is there anywhere
> else I can get it?  Or maybe you can upload it to server for
> downloading if that's possible.

Go here: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/download.html

Pick the Red Hat rpm shell script. When you download it, chmod u+x
j2re...rpm.bin. Then run it: ./j2re...rpm.bin and agree to their
licence. It will extract into an rpm file which you can then install.

Bill



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RE: [newbie] java runtime environment

[Franki]

you can also download the JRE as a bin file, (self executable bzip file) 
from the java.sun.com site..

I just did it myself..


regards

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman
Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2002 11:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] java runtime environment


On Thursday 23 May 2002 08:51 am, Michael Kovary wrote:
> Would I have to pay to join mandrake club?  If so, is there
> anywhere else I can get it?  Or maybe you can upload it to server
> for downloading if that's possible.

Well, it's not real possible.  First there's good reason that 
Mandrake made it available to Club members, and I wouldn't want to 
infringe on them.  Second it's proprietary, so Sun wouldn't likely 
appreciate it either.  Third, I've only got a 33,6 connection and the 
rpm is 20 MB.  Sorry, I just thought I'd make y'all aware that j2re's 
installation can be quick and simple.  In any event I believe my 
Konqueror advice will work no matter where you get j2re.

   I'd encourage you to join the Club. ;)  You can almost recoup the 
membership cost the first time you d/l Mandrake, or get it from 
Cheapbytes, and Mandrake benefits much more than when you buy the 
Power Pack.   Plus you get the other benefits the Club offers.
-- 
Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas
>
>
> From: Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [newbie] java runtime environment
> >Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:05:40 -0500
> >
> >On Wednesday 22 May 2002 10:24 pm, Michael Kovary wrote:
> > > Allright.  After copying the file into the mozilla plugins
> > > directory, both mozilla and galeon completely crash and exit
> > > whenever I try opening a page with java.  I've also tried
> > > symlinking to the files, and they don't crash but want me to
> > > install it.
> >
> >  Open mozilla and typeabout:plugins   in the location bar
> >you should see somethin like,
> >
> >Java(TM) Plug-in 1.4.0-b92
> > File name:
> >/usr/lib/jre-1.4.0/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji140.so
> >Java(TM) Plug-in1.4.0
> >Mime Type Description Suffixes Enabled
> >application/x-java-vm Java(tm) Plug-in Yes
> >   << snipped a bunch of other java plugins >>
> >application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.4 Java(tm) Plug-in Yes
> >
> >  IIRC, all I did was install  j2re-1.4.0-1mdk.i586.rpm  and
> > did nothin to configure java for mozilla, other than to check
> > 'about:plugins'.  For Konqueror I went into the Netscape plugins
> > configuration, clicked on 'New' and added
> >   $HOME/.mozilla/plugins  (rather than $HOME/.netscape/plugins,
> > since nutscrape isn't installed) and made sure it was at the top.
> >  Then clicking on 'Scan for new plugins'  added jre-1.4 and any
> > other stuff installed for mozilla (eg, flash) to Konqeror.   No
> > moving, copying, or linking files needed.
> >
> >  Not sure but I believe I got j2re-1.4.0-1mdk.i586.rpm  from
> > the Mandrake Club downloads.
> >
> >--
> > Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas






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Re: [newbie] java runtime environment

[Tom Brinkman]

On Thursday 23 May 2002 08:51 am, Michael Kovary wrote:
> Would I have to pay to join mandrake club?  If so, is there
> anywhere else I can get it?  Or maybe you can upload it to server
> for downloading if that's possible.

Well, it's not real possible.  First there's good reason that 
Mandrake made it available to Club members, and I wouldn't want to 
infringe on them.  Second it's proprietary, so Sun wouldn't likely 
appreciate it either.  Third, I've only got a 33,6 connection and the 
rpm is 20 MB.  Sorry, I just thought I'd make y'all aware that j2re's 
installation can be quick and simple.  In any event I believe my 
Konqueror advice will work no matter where you get j2re.

   I'd encourage you to join the Club. ;)  You can almost recoup the 
membership cost the first time you d/l Mandrake, or get it from 
Cheapbytes, and Mandrake benefits much more than when you buy the 
Power Pack.   Plus you get the other benefits the Club offers.
-- 
Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas
>
>
> From: Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [newbie] java runtime environment
> >Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:05:40 -0500
> >
> >On Wednesday 22 May 2002 10:24 pm, Michael Kovary wrote:
> > > Allright.  After copying the file into the mozilla plugins
> > > directory, both mozilla and galeon completely crash and exit
> > > whenever I try opening a page with java.  I've also tried
> > > symlinking to the files, and they don't crash but want me to
> > > install it.
> >
> >  Open mozilla and typeabout:plugins   in the location bar
> >you should see somethin like,
> >
> >Java(TM) Plug-in 1.4.0-b92
> > File name:
> >/usr/lib/jre-1.4.0/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji140.so
> >Java(TM) Plug-in1.4.0
> >Mime Type Description Suffixes Enabled
> >application/x-java-vm Java(tm) Plug-in Yes
> >   << snipped a bunch of other java plugins >>
> >application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.4 Java(tm) Plug-in Yes
> >
> >  IIRC, all I did was install  j2re-1.4.0-1mdk.i586.rpm  and
> > did nothin to configure java for mozilla, other than to check
> > 'about:plugins'.  For Konqueror I went into the Netscape plugins
> > configuration, clicked on 'New' and added
> >   $HOME/.mozilla/plugins  (rather than $HOME/.netscape/plugins,
> > since nutscrape isn't installed) and made sure it was at the top.
> >  Then clicking on 'Scan for new plugins'  added jre-1.4 and any
> > other stuff installed for mozilla (eg, flash) to Konqeror.   No
> > moving, copying, or linking files needed.
> >
> >  Not sure but I believe I got j2re-1.4.0-1mdk.i586.rpm  from
> > the Mandrake Club downloads.
> >
> >--
> > Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas




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Re: [newbie] java runtime environment

[Raffaele Belardi]

That is strange, I am using currently using mozilla  0.99 with JRE 1.4 
without problems.
Did you link the correct files (i.e. those under jdk1.x.x\jre\plugin, if 
memory serves)? From mozilla, if you click on help->about plugins, do 
the plugins appear correctly instaled?

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Allright.  After copying the file into the mozilla plugins directory, both 
> mozilla and galeon completely crash and exit whenever I try opening a page 
> with java.  I've also tried symlinking to the files, and they don't crash 
> but want me to install it.
> 




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Re: [newbie] java runtime environment

[Roland Hughes]

Galeon only looks in the mozilla plugin directory. I found this out the
hard way, banging my head against it for awhile.
Roly

On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 16:53, Michael Kovary wrote:
> I have download jre-1_4_0-linux-i386.bin and installed it in 
> /usr/local/java.
> I then copied the contents of /usr/local/java/j2re1.4.0/plugins/i386/ns4 to 
> /usr/lib/netscape/plugins, /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, and told konqueror to 
> look in the first directory.  Galeon, Mozilla, and Konqueror all find the 
> plugins but in Galeon it still thinks I need to install it, and in Konqueror 
> the applets down seem to get past "loading applet".
> 
> what else do I need to do?
> 
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Re: [newbie] Java in Mozilla

[Derek Jennings]

On Thursday 16 May 2002 5:40 pm, Marcia wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I have LM8.2 and downloaded the netscape 6.2 recently. All of the java
> plugins work fine but my Mozilla does not seem to have the necessary java
> plugins. I prefer to use Mozilla since it is much faster on my machine. How
> may I import the java plugins from Netscape? Thanks for the help.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Marcia

Locate the file libjavaplugin_oji140.so(or similar depending on your java 
 version) which you will find in your java directory,   
(/usr/java/j2re1.4.0/plugin/i386/ns610 or similar ) and copy it into 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

Thats it

derek



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