Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 22:55:28 -0400 Charles A Edwards disseminated the following: > Personally I do not see the need, I right-click either the icon or MIME > type and either 'save as' or 'open with' Too much 'clicking', as opposed to Mod4-r-d (opens ~/docs), drag file to filer window. Done. I'm obsessed with keyboard shortcuts ;-) I should almost be running Screen, only I like a *little* bit of eyecandy... -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 23:06:47 up 32 days, 22:51, 10 users, load average: 1.64, 1.83, 1.77 +++ "Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power" -- Benito Mussolini Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 18:44:09 -0700 Eric Huff wrote: > I haven't. I figured that as often as Charles updates Claws, > there's wouldn't be much lag. > > I will check into it, though. Sorry to be so lame, but it might be > a bit before i do real work on it instead of just ask for answers. > I ended up starting a seat conversion project on my 74 valiant, so i > am trying to get it back to drive-ability... D&D does work between claws and evolution. Personally I do not see the need, I right-click either the icon or MIME type and either 'save as' or 'open with' Charles -- If a man loses his reverence for any part of life, he will lose his reverence for all of life. -- Albert Schweitzer -- Mandrake Linux 10.0 on BigBoy #184142 Registered Linux user #182463 *http://www.eslrahc.com* 2.6.5-1.tmb.6mdkenterprise -- pgpRgzbVOq4tL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
> > It's really getting attachments *out* of sylpheed that i want. > > Well, I filed a bug report on the Sylpheed-GTK2 Sourceforge page, > we'll see what happens with that. Hey, thanks for being proactive. I was "going to get to it" at some point. > Have you tried it with the latest CVS of Sylpheed? That may be > eons ahead of the GTK2 port... I haven't. I figured that as often as Charles updates Claws, there's wouldn't be much lag. I will check into it, though. Sorry to be so lame, but it might be a bit before i do real work on it instead of just ask for answers. I ended up starting a seat conversion project on my 74 valiant, so i am trying to get it back to drive-ability... eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 14:32:38 -0700 Eric Huff disseminated the following: > It's really getting attachments *out* of sylpheed that i want. > > In regular it worked with xftree, but not rox. In claws it doesn't > work with xftree, either. Well, I filed a bug report on the Sylpheed-GTK2 Sourceforge page, we'll see what happens with that. Have you tried it with the latest CVS of Sylpheed? That may be eons ahead of the GTK2 port... -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 17:42:26 up 32 days, 17:27, 9 users, load average: 1.49, 1.36, 1.33 +++ "I believe what I said yesterday ... I don't know what I said, er, but I know what I think, and ... well, I assume it's what I said." -- Donald Rumsfeld Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
> IIRC, one of the reasons I wanted to switch to Claws was that it > was *easier* to drag files to a compose window to attach...but > then I discovered I could just create a script to do that for me > (ie. the ROX Send To menu). I do the same with send to. > > but in regular sylpheed, you could put files in as an > > attachment, but still not out... > > Well, unless I'm misunderstanding you, with 'plain' Sylpheed, you > had to attach a file with the 'browse' method, then you could drag > other files into the attachment 'field', whereas with Claws, this > field was there with every new compose window. In regular (also IIRC) there was a way to show the attachment field, then i could drag stuff into it. But like you said, there's an easier way anyway. It's really getting attachments *out* of sylpheed that i want. In regular it worked with xftree, but not rox. In claws it doesn't work with xftree, either. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 21:19:37 -0700 Eric Huff disseminated the following: > Mildly related: > I have been meaning forever to see where to go to figure out how to > get files to drag and drop out of sylpheed. For some reason, claws > doesn't work in or out, IIRC, one of the reasons I wanted to switch to Claws was that it was *easier* to drag files to a compose window to attach...but then I discovered I could just create a script to do that for me (ie. the ROX Send To menu). > but in regular sylpheed, you could put files in as an attachment, but still > not out... Well, unless I'm misunderstanding you, with 'plain' Sylpheed, you had to attach a file with the 'browse' method, then you could drag other files into the attachment 'field', whereas with Claws, this field was there with every new compose window. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 15:02:45 up 32 days, 14:47, 9 users, load average: 1.82, 1.48, 1.34 +++ "President Bush is asking Congress for $80 billion dollars to rebuild Iraq. And when you make out that check, remember there are two L's in Halliburton." -- David Letterman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
> > Oooh, tell us more. I use rox all the time, but haven't sent > > much time on the extra goodies. > > If you install ROX as a regular user, ie. from the source tarball, > it automagically creates an ~/Apps and a ~/Choices dir, where you > can drop all those handy and kewl apps for easy access, I get the Choices, but not the Apps dir. I think i will do a user install. They seem to keep adding goodies over there... > easily add them to the'Send To' menu. See my site for shots of a > couple of examples of this in action. I really like MusicBox and > RoxDao for playing MP3's and burning WAV's to CD. Ok, i guess i will finally have to take the plunge and figure out "the rest of rox". I like the Apps dir and the send to with icons instead of just crunch-wheels: http://www.freeyourmachine.org/pics/roxnpekwm.png > Thomas Leonard seems to think it might be a bug in Sylpheed: http://www.freedesktop.org/bin/view/Main/Draganddropwarts#Wart_3_Malformed_URIs_in_text_ur hmm... I'll keep that one handy. Thanks for the tips, eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
> > I have been meaning forever to see where to go to figure out how > > to get files to drag and drop out of sylpheed. For some reason, > > claws doesn't work in or out, but in regular sylpheed, you could > > put files in as an attachment, but still not out... > > A point of order!! > > If you are using rpms from my site you Are Never allowed to say > anything disparaging of sylpheed-claws (-: I apologize and accept all punishment. :) Seriously, though, i *love* claws and am very gracious you rpm it for us! eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 21:19:37 -0700 Eric Huff wrote: > I have been meaning forever to see where to go to figure out how to > get files to drag and drop out of sylpheed. For some reason, claws > doesn't work in or out, but in regular sylpheed, you could put files > in as an attachment, but still not out... A point of order!! If you are using rpms from my site you Are Never allowed to say anything disparaging of sylpheed-claws (-: Charles -- While wizards don't believe in gods they know for a fact that gods believe in gods. (Reaper Man) - Mandrake Linux 10.1 on PurpleDragon 2.6.8.1-4mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgpQEuwwFo5RF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
> Just in case anyone *has* missed the last 3 years: > > http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/ > > However, *best* way to install it is as a regular user (ie. > download tarball, untar, run it, compiles itself) so's you have > easier access to all the software goodies that go along with it. Oooh, tell us more. I use rox all the time, but haven't sent much time on the extra goodies. Mildly related: I have been meaning forever to see where to go to figure out how to get files to drag and drop out of sylpheed. For some reason, claws doesn't work in or out, but in regular sylpheed, you could put files in as an attachment, but still not out... eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:54:22 -0500 John Drouhard disseminated the following: > > And no, I'm not installing 10.0 for the time being. > > > > > > I don't know if this is too much work for you, but you can try compiling > it from source, along with it's dependencies. That shouldn't break > anything *too* bad. :-) > > http://www.gtk.org > http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.4/gtk/gtk-building.html Just for claws? Nah. Something to look forward to when I buy a new box and can experiment a bit. Right now I only have the one old workhorse, and I ain't riskin' breakin' nuttin' no how! For the people who *do* want to build this wonderful GTK2 Claws, here is John's original howto (though I think the line number you edit has changed to 65...): 1. cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/sylpheed-claws login ^^^That is one line press enter when the password prompt comes up. 2. cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/sylpheed-claws co -r gtk2 sylpheed-claws ^^^That is one line 3.change into the sylpheed-claws directory. 4. Open the file configure.ac and change line 63 from AC_CONFIG_HEADERS(config.h) to AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h) 5. Then save it, and run autogen.sh. type make, then become root and type make install. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 22:05:50 up 26 days, 21:50, 12 users, load average: 0.35, 0.40, 0.67 +++ Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws. -- Amschel Mayer Rothschild, banker Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 09:42, JoeHill wrote: > On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:33:45 +1000 > Stephen Kühn disseminated the following: > > > In doing so you will have to upgrade Python as well; and once done, all > > mandrake bits will begin to break. Been there done that. > > Damn and blast! Oh, well, it's just Claws. I'm not messin' around too much with > a perfectly working system just for a more snazzy mail client. I ended up breaking mine just because I wanted Nautilus 2.6; then after it was all done, and I saw it ONCE, I realised that ROX did the same afterall (and was heaps more configurable) - ah well, the lessons we learn...(seven more days to ADSL) -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. Life may have no meaning, or, even worse, it may have a meaning of which you disapprove. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:33:45 +1000 Stephen Kühn disseminated the following: > In doing so you will have to upgrade Python as well; and once done, all > mandrake bits will begin to break. Been there done that. Damn and blast! Oh, well, it's just Claws. I'm not messin' around too much with a perfectly working system just for a more snazzy mail client. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 19:41:28 up 26 days, 19:25, 11 users, load average: 1.15, 1.25, 1.26 +++ "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged." -- Noam Chomsky Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:59:21 -0400 Guy Rouillier disseminated the following: > > John Drouhard's post about the GTK2 port of Claws has lead me to a > > more fundamental question. > > > > Has anyone running 9.2 successfully updated their libgtk and all > > associated libs to 2.4, and if so how? > > > > And no, I'm not installing 10.0 for the time being. > > That wouldn't do it anyway. 10.0 is still 2.2, you need 10.1 > to get 2.4. God knows when Mandrake will get around to that for AMD64, > so I've been playing around with Gentoo. So I *can't* upgrade to 2.4 on 9.2?! There must be a way... Yo! Stephen! How about that Red Carpet thingie? Is this one of those times when Debian users snicker with derision at us MDK people? -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 19:36:55 up 26 days, 19:21, 11 users, load average: 1.12, 1.21, 1.24 +++ "Behind every great fortune is a crime." -- Balzac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 08:34, JoeHill wrote: > John Drouhard's post about the GTK2 port of Claws has lead me to a more > fundamental question. > > Has anyone running 9.2 successfully updated their libgtk and all associated libs > to 2.4, and if so how? > > And no, I'm not installing 10.0 for the time being. In doing so you will have to upgrade Python as well; and once done, all mandrake bits will begin to break. Been there done that. -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. Communicate! It can't make things any worse. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:34:36 -0400 JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Drouhard's post about the GTK2 port of Claws has lead me to a > more fundamental question. > > Has anyone running 9.2 successfully updated their libgtk and all > associated libs to 2.4, and if so how? > > And no, I'm not installing 10.0 for the time being. That wouldn't do it anyway. 10.0 is still 2.2, you need 10.1 to get 2.4. God knows when Mandrake will get around to that for AMD64, so I've been playing around with Gentoo. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com