Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Philip Hinds wrote: > I,ve been following this thread with interest as I've the same. I installed > Open Linux and there was no problem. I have AMD K11-6 400 & Soyo 5ehm, > 64ram. It has a via chip. I'll re-install Mandrake again and see if I can > fix it. The reason for posting this is in case it is an AMD or Soyo/VIA > problem which may help to slove problem. Not everyone has it, so what is the > common denominator? Generally is it better to stick with Intel? > P Hinds > - Original Message - > From: Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 6:56 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0... > > > flupke wrote: > > > > > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, so I hope I won't > say > > > anything stoopid or something that has already been said. > > > If I understand, the problem here is all the dump of the stack and > > > registers caused by a page default or something at the end of a > shutdown. > > > > > > I have the same problem. I think it only happens on Motherboards with > VIA > > > chips. I don't mind about it since it doesn't cause any damage, but it > is > > > nice to get rid of that bad stuff. > > > I solved the problem by modifying the /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt file and > > > change the line > > > eval $command -i -d -p > > > to > > > eval $command -i -d > > > > > > PS : http://www.mandrakeuser.org/troubles/tquick1.html :-) > > > > > > HTH > > > Flupke > > > > > > On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote: > > > > > > > I second what Ronald wrote...I went to DRAKCONF and > > > > found it there no problem and disabled it. Shutdown and > > > > there were all the things on the screen again...full screen > > > > all over the screen... > > > > > > > > I also already had the power management in KDE disabled > > > > as well. > > > > > > > > Oh, well it was worth a shot. > > > > > > > > Anyway, reboot works just fine :) > > > > > > > > Bambi > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Paul wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Log in as root, or run "su" > > > > > > Then run "setup" in a console > > > > > > Go to system services, and uncheck the APM daemon. it is right > below the > > > > > > anacron daemon. > > > > > > After a reboot you're all set! > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > Hi. Well, I opened up a shell on my desktop, > > > > > ran su, password, typed in "setup" and it told > > > > > me, "bash: command not found". > > > > > > > > > > So I went into the DRAKCONF and ran startup, > > > > > found it (under anacron, like you said) and > > > > > disabled it. Unfortunately, after powering > > > > > down, and rebooting, the problem still exists. > > > > > I also have dmps disabled from the kde desktop > > > > > (don't know if that needed to be or not). Any > > > > > other possible ideas as to what it might be? > > > > > > > > > > (Thanks to Dennis Myers for the DRAKCONF tip) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks much! > > > > > > > > > > PS Did you see the reply I posted with the details > > > > > on the screen that I'm left with? Maybe you can > > > > > find a clue there... > > > > > > > > > > See ya... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > << There's no place like ~ ! >> > > > > Well, I tried my own advise and it didn't work for me either. I see the > > suggestion to edit or modify the rc.d files but don't know how to do that. > The > > last time I tried to change a file I crashed the whole config and had to > > reinstall. By the way, I am getting very good at reinstall or new install > since > > there seems to be something that causes me to lose my mouse and Keyboard > every > > now and then. I keep trying to find the problem but no luck so far. I am > > running an AMD K6 II - 333 with a soyo 5EMA + motherboard 64 meg ram and > > western Digital 13.6 gig ide hard drive, generic floppy and cdrom. If > there is > > a man page or faq that talks about editing files I would like to know. I > am not > > trained in computers just determined to learn. Thanks in advance for any > help > > here. > > > > Your setup is exactly the same as mine. AMD K6 II 400 , 64 MB ram via chip on the soyo 5EHM+ motherboard , ergo you should be able to fix the problem with the specified edit if the problem is indeed the CPU or chipset. Seems as though the chipset is the common factor.
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
I,ve been following this thread with interest as I've the same. I installed Open Linux and there was no problem. I have AMD K11-6 400 & Soyo 5ehm, 64ram. It has a via chip. I'll re-install Mandrake again and see if I can fix it. The reason for posting this is in case it is an AMD or Soyo/VIA problem which may help to slove problem. Not everyone has it, so what is the common denominator? Generally is it better to stick with Intel? P Hinds - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0... > flupke wrote: > > > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, so I hope I won't say > > anything stoopid or something that has already been said. > > If I understand, the problem here is all the dump of the stack and > > registers caused by a page default or something at the end of a shutdown. > > > > I have the same problem. I think it only happens on Motherboards with VIA > > chips. I don't mind about it since it doesn't cause any damage, but it is > > nice to get rid of that bad stuff. > > I solved the problem by modifying the /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt file and > > change the line > > eval $command -i -d -p > > to > > eval $command -i -d > > > > PS : http://www.mandrakeuser.org/troubles/tquick1.html :-) > > > > HTH > > Flupke > > > > On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote: > > > > > I second what Ronald wrote...I went to DRAKCONF and > > > found it there no problem and disabled it. Shutdown and > > > there were all the things on the screen again...full screen > > > all over the screen... > > > > > > I also already had the power management in KDE disabled > > > as well. > > > > > > Oh, well it was worth a shot. > > > > > > Anyway, reboot works just fine :) > > > > > > Bambi > > > > > > > > > "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > > > > > > > Paul wrote: > > > > > > > > > Log in as root, or run "su" > > > > > Then run "setup" in a console > > > > > Go to system services, and uncheck the APM daemon. it is right below the > > > > > anacron daemon. > > > > > After a reboot you're all set! > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > Hi. Well, I opened up a shell on my desktop, > > > > ran su, password, typed in "setup" and it told > > > > me, "bash: command not found". > > > > > > > > So I went into the DRAKCONF and ran startup, > > > > found it (under anacron, like you said) and > > > > disabled it. Unfortunately, after powering > > > > down, and rebooting, the problem still exists. > > > > I also have dmps disabled from the kde desktop > > > > (don't know if that needed to be or not). Any > > > > other possible ideas as to what it might be? > > > > > > > > (Thanks to Dennis Myers for the DRAKCONF tip) > > > > > > > > Thanks much! > > > > > > > > PS Did you see the reply I posted with the details > > > > on the screen that I'm left with? Maybe you can > > > > find a clue there... > > > > > > > > See ya... > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > << There's no place like ~ ! >> > > Well, I tried my own advise and it didn't work for me either. I see the > suggestion to edit or modify the rc.d files but don't know how to do that. The > last time I tried to change a file I crashed the whole config and had to > reinstall. By the way, I am getting very good at reinstall or new install since > there seems to be something that causes me to lose my mouse and Keyboard every > now and then. I keep trying to find the problem but no luck so far. I am > running an AMD K6 II - 333 with a soyo 5EMA + motherboard 64 meg ram and > western Digital 13.6 gig ide hard drive, generic floppy and cdrom. If there is > a man page or faq that talks about editing files I would like to know. I am not > trained in computers just determined to learn. Thanks in advance for any help > here. > >
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Dennis Myers wrote: > Followup to this thread, I figured out how to edit (hooray!!!) and went > in to the above listed /etc/ files and deleted the -p and voila! the > error message is gone when I "halt" the sys. I think that I am > beginning to get the hang of some of this and am falling in love with > "linux". You can actually fix things if you want to take the time to > learn. Exactly! It worked for me as well. I think the biggest thing is: 1) Take your time 2) *really* read the manuals 3) Listen (hard) to advice from "vets" 4) Repeat steps 1 - 3 as necessary!
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Dacia and AzureRose wrote: > hmmm...both of the computers I've seen this problem on > had Via chipsets on their motherboards. > > Dacia > --- flupke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, > > so I hope I won't say > > anything stoopid or something that has already been > > said. > > If I understand, the problem here is all the dump of > > the stack and > > registers caused by a page default or something at > > the end of a shutdown. > > > > I have the same problem. I think it only happens on > > Motherboards with VIA > > chips. I don't mind about it since it doesn't cause > > any damage, but it is > > nice to get rid of that bad stuff. > > I solved the problem by modifying the > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt file and > > change the line > > eval $command -i -d -p > > to > > eval $command -i -d > > > > PS : > > http://www.mandrakeuser.org/troubles/tquick1.html > > :-) > > > > HTH > > Flupke > > > > On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote: > > > > > I second what Ronald wrote...I went to DRAKCONF > > and > > > found it there no problem and disabled it. > > Shutdown and > > > there were all the things on the screen > > again...full screen > > > all over the screen... > > > > > > I also already had the power management in KDE > > disabled > > > as well. > > > > > > Oh, well it was worth a shot. > > > > > > Anyway, reboot works just fine :) > > > > > > Bambi > > > > > > > > > "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > > > > > > > Paul wrote: > > > > > > > > > Log in as root, or run "su" > > > > > Then run "setup" in a console > > > > > Go to system services, and uncheck the APM > > daemon. it is right below the > > > > > anacron daemon. > > > > > After a reboot you're all set! > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > Hi. Well, I opened up a shell on my desktop, > > > > ran su, password, typed in "setup" and it told > > > > me, "bash: command not found". > > > > > > > > So I went into the DRAKCONF and ran startup, > > > > found it (under anacron, like you said) and > > > > disabled it. Unfortunately, after powering > > > > down, and rebooting, the problem still exists. > > > > I also have dmps disabled from the kde desktop > > > > (don't know if that needed to be or not). Any > > > > other possible ideas as to what it might be? > > > > > > > > (Thanks to Dennis Myers for the DRAKCONF tip) > > > > > > > > Thanks much! > > > > > > > > PS Did you see the reply I posted with the > > details > > > > on the screen that I'm left with? Maybe you can > > > > find a clue there... > > > > > > > > See ya... > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > << There's no place like ~ ! >> > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > http://photos.yahoo.com Followup to this thread, I figured out how to edit (hooray!!!) and went in to the above listed /etc/ files and deleted the -p and voila! the error message is gone when I "halt" the sys. I think that I am beginning to get the hang of some of this and am falling in love with "linux". You can actually fix things if you want to take the time to learn.
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Thanks Ronald...I will try this. Seems funny though that if it doesn't find it there (and it does look there) it also looks in my /home/fran directory and still doesn't find it. Not sure what the problem is there, but will put it in the share directory and see if it helps. Thanks, Bambi "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > Fran Parker wrote: > > > Now do you you know how to get lxdoom to work..it says it can't > > find an IWAD...I have downloaded the shareware 1.8 wad file, > > I have gone to get the iwad file they had and unzipped it...doom1.wad > > Anyway it can't find it and I tried to run it in terminal window to see > > it's complaints ... they only thing it says besides the memory size is > > it can't find an IWAD file! > > > > I am at a lose as to how to proceed. Any help? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Bambi > > Hi. On my setup of lxdoom, the doom1.wad file > goes in /usr/share/games/doom. Hope this helps!
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Dennis Myers wrote: > flupke wrote: > > > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, so I hope I won't say > > anything stoopid or something that has already been said. > > If I understand, the problem here is all the dump of the stack and > > registers caused by a page default or something at the end of a shutdown. > > > > I have the same problem. I think it only happens on Motherboards with VIA > > chips. I don't mind about it since it doesn't cause any damage, but it is > > nice to get rid of that bad stuff. > > I solved the problem by modifying the /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt file and > > change the line > > eval $command -i -d -p > > to > > eval $command -i -d > > > > PS : http://www.mandrakeuser.org/troubles/tquick1.html :-) > > > > HTH > > Flupke > > [...] > > > > Well, I tried my own advise and it didn't work for me either. I see the > suggestion to edit or modify the rc.d files but don't know how to do that. The > last time I tried to change a file I crashed the whole config and had to > reinstall. By the way, I am getting very good at reinstall or new install since > there seems to be something that causes me to lose my mouse and Keyboard every > now and then. I keep trying to find the problem but no luck so far. I am > running an AMD K6 II - 333 with a soyo 5EMA + motherboard 64 meg ram and > western Digital 13.6 gig ide hard drive, generic floppy and cdrom. If there is > a man page or faq that talks about editing files I would like to know. I am not > trained in computers just determined to learn. Thanks in advance for any help > here. > > > OK, Dennis. Don't be afraid. To avoid problem when modifying a file that is important for the system, you just have to save before editing : cd /etc/rc.d/init.d/ cp halt halt.orig vi halt (NB : DON'T DO THAT if you never used vi... in that case, use kedit, pico or another one that you know. But if you want to give vi a blind try, once it is opened, just type "G$xxx" to go to the last line of the file, go to the end of the line and erase the last 3 chars, then type ":wq" and press enter to save the file and quit edition) That way, if there is a problem, you simply have to boot in single-user mode and put the files as they were before. But note that there is no danger here, since the file that has to be edited is only invoked at shutdown or reboot time. There is also something that can be usefull : make an archive of /etc and put it in a safe place, so that you can restore a file that you broke. For doc about safe edition, maybe you could browse the HOWTOs. There is a security-HOWTO that talks about safety in a network, maybe there is another one about safety in your system... For doc about edition itself, well, I must say that I'm a vi fan. So, I would suggest you two things : - In the man vi, I think you will find a reference to a basic tutorial. Read that tutorial. - Then, you take a cup of cofee, you start vi, and you type ':help' HTH Flupke -- << There's no place like ~ ! >>
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Fran Parker wrote: > Now do you you know how to get lxdoom to work..it says it can't > find an IWAD...I have downloaded the shareware 1.8 wad file, > I have gone to get the iwad file they had and unzipped it...doom1.wad > Anyway it can't find it and I tried to run it in terminal window to see > it's complaints ... they only thing it says besides the memory size is > it can't find an IWAD file! > > I am at a lose as to how to proceed. Any help? > > Thanks in advance, > Bambi Hi. On my setup of lxdoom, the doom1.wad file goes in /usr/share/games/doom. Hope this helps!
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Dacia and AzureRose wrote: > > hmmm...both of the computers I've seen this problem on > had Via chipsets on their motherboards. > > Dacia Not sure if I have a Via chipset or not? I do have a socket 7 MB, (Gigabyte GA-5AX), and it uses the ALI Aladdin V AGPset... Oh well.
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Fran Parker wrote: > That could be true flupke, mine is a VIA chipset. > > It doesn't seem to hurt anything, if I accidentally choose > shutdown, I just choose alt-cntrl-del and it finishes it. > > But if it can be fixed...cool. I will look into it with my system. > > Thanks, > Bambi > > Now do you you know how to get lxdoom to work..it says it can't > find an IWAD...I have downloaded the shareware 1.8 wad file, > I have gone to get the iwad file they had and unzipped it...doom1.wad > Anyway it can't find it and I tried to run it in terminal window to see > it's complaints ... they only thing it says besides the memory size is > it can't find an IWAD file! > > I am at a lose as to how to proceed. Any help? > > Thanks in advance, > Bambi > > flupke wrote: > > > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, so I hope I won't say > > anything stoopid or something that has already been said. > > If I understand, the problem here is all the dump of the stack and > > registers caused by a page default or something at the end of a shutdown. > > > > I have the same problem. I think it only happens on Motherboards with VIA > > chips. I don't mind about it since it doesn't cause any damage, but it is > > nice to get rid of that bad stuff. > > I solved the problem by modifying the /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt file and > > change the line > > eval $command -i -d -p > > to > > eval $command -i -d > > > > PS : http://www.mandrakeuser.org/troubles/tquick1.html :-) > > > > HTH > > Flupke > > > > On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote: > > > > > I second what Ronald wrote...I went to DRAKCONF and > > > found it there no problem and disabled it. Shutdown and > > > there were all the things on the screen again...full screen > > > all over the screen... > > > > > > I also already had the power management in KDE disabled > > > as well. > > > > > > Oh, well it was worth a shot. > > > > > > Anyway, reboot works just fine :) > > > > > > Bambi > > > > > > > > > "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > > > > > > > Paul wrote: > > > > > > > > > Log in as root, or run "su" > > > > > Then run "setup" in a console > > > > > Go to system services, and uncheck the APM daemon. it is right below the > > > > > anacron daemon. > > > > > After a reboot you're all set! > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > Hi. Well, I opened up a shell on my desktop, > > > > ran su, password, typed in "setup" and it told > > > > me, "bash: command not found". > > > > > > > > So I went into the DRAKCONF and ran startup, > > > > found it (under anacron, like you said) and > > > > disabled it. Unfortunately, after powering > > > > down, and rebooting, the problem still exists. > > > > I also have dmps disabled from the kde desktop > > > > (don't know if that needed to be or not). Any > > > > other possible ideas as to what it might be? > > > > > > > > (Thanks to Dennis Myers for the DRAKCONF tip) > > > > > > > > Thanks much! > > > > > > > > PS Did you see the reply I posted with the details > > > > on the screen that I'm left with? Maybe you can > > > > find a clue there... > > > > > > > > See ya... > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > << There's no place like ~ ! >> Just took a look at the specs on my motherboard (Soyo 5EMA+) and it has an ETEQ chipset, guess what ETEQ is just another name for VIA, don't suppose Mandrake Soft has a patch out to fix this glitch? Anyway the pattern seems to be consistant.
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
That could be true flupke, mine is a VIA chipset. It doesn't seem to hurt anything, if I accidentally choose shutdown, I just choose alt-cntrl-del and it finishes it. But if it can be fixed...cool. I will look into it with my system. Thanks, Bambi Now do you you know how to get lxdoom to work..it says it can't find an IWAD...I have downloaded the shareware 1.8 wad file, I have gone to get the iwad file they had and unzipped it...doom1.wad Anyway it can't find it and I tried to run it in terminal window to see it's complaints ... they only thing it says besides the memory size is it can't find an IWAD file! I am at a lose as to how to proceed. Any help? Thanks in advance, Bambi flupke wrote: > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, so I hope I won't say > anything stoopid or something that has already been said. > If I understand, the problem here is all the dump of the stack and > registers caused by a page default or something at the end of a shutdown. > > I have the same problem. I think it only happens on Motherboards with VIA > chips. I don't mind about it since it doesn't cause any damage, but it is > nice to get rid of that bad stuff. > I solved the problem by modifying the /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt file and > change the line > eval $command -i -d -p > to > eval $command -i -d > > PS : http://www.mandrakeuser.org/troubles/tquick1.html :-) > > HTH > Flupke > > On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote: > > > I second what Ronald wrote...I went to DRAKCONF and > > found it there no problem and disabled it. Shutdown and > > there were all the things on the screen again...full screen > > all over the screen... > > > > I also already had the power management in KDE disabled > > as well. > > > > Oh, well it was worth a shot. > > > > Anyway, reboot works just fine :) > > > > Bambi > > > > > > "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > > > > > Paul wrote: > > > > > > > Log in as root, or run "su" > > > > Then run "setup" in a console > > > > Go to system services, and uncheck the APM daemon. it is right below the > > > > anacron daemon. > > > > After a reboot you're all set! > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > Hi. Well, I opened up a shell on my desktop, > > > ran su, password, typed in "setup" and it told > > > me, "bash: command not found". > > > > > > So I went into the DRAKCONF and ran startup, > > > found it (under anacron, like you said) and > > > disabled it. Unfortunately, after powering > > > down, and rebooting, the problem still exists. > > > I also have dmps disabled from the kde desktop > > > (don't know if that needed to be or not). Any > > > other possible ideas as to what it might be? > > > > > > (Thanks to Dennis Myers for the DRAKCONF tip) > > > > > > Thanks much! > > > > > > PS Did you see the reply I posted with the details > > > on the screen that I'm left with? Maybe you can > > > find a clue there... > > > > > > See ya... > > > > > > > > -- > << There's no place like ~ ! >>
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
flupke wrote: > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, so I hope I won't say > anything stoopid or something that has already been said. > If I understand, the problem here is all the dump of the stack and > registers caused by a page default or something at the end of a shutdown. > > I have the same problem. I think it only happens on Motherboards with VIA > chips. I don't mind about it since it doesn't cause any damage, but it is > nice to get rid of that bad stuff. > I solved the problem by modifying the /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt file and > change the line > eval $command -i -d -p > to > eval $command -i -d > > PS : http://www.mandrakeuser.org/troubles/tquick1.html :-) > > HTH > Flupke > > On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote: > > > I second what Ronald wrote...I went to DRAKCONF and > > found it there no problem and disabled it. Shutdown and > > there were all the things on the screen again...full screen > > all over the screen... > > > > I also already had the power management in KDE disabled > > as well. > > > > Oh, well it was worth a shot. > > > > Anyway, reboot works just fine :) > > > > Bambi > > > > > > "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > > > > > Paul wrote: > > > > > > > Log in as root, or run "su" > > > > Then run "setup" in a console > > > > Go to system services, and uncheck the APM daemon. it is right below the > > > > anacron daemon. > > > > After a reboot you're all set! > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > Hi. Well, I opened up a shell on my desktop, > > > ran su, password, typed in "setup" and it told > > > me, "bash: command not found". > > > > > > So I went into the DRAKCONF and ran startup, > > > found it (under anacron, like you said) and > > > disabled it. Unfortunately, after powering > > > down, and rebooting, the problem still exists. > > > I also have dmps disabled from the kde desktop > > > (don't know if that needed to be or not). Any > > > other possible ideas as to what it might be? > > > > > > (Thanks to Dennis Myers for the DRAKCONF tip) > > > > > > Thanks much! > > > > > > PS Did you see the reply I posted with the details > > > on the screen that I'm left with? Maybe you can > > > find a clue there... > > > > > > See ya... > > > > > > > > -- > << There's no place like ~ ! >> Well, I tried my own advise and it didn't work for me either. I see the suggestion to edit or modify the rc.d files but don't know how to do that. The last time I tried to change a file I crashed the whole config and had to reinstall. By the way, I am getting very good at reinstall or new install since there seems to be something that causes me to lose my mouse and Keyboard every now and then. I keep trying to find the problem but no luck so far. I am running an AMD K6 II - 333 with a soyo 5EMA + motherboard 64 meg ram and western Digital 13.6 gig ide hard drive, generic floppy and cdrom. If there is a man page or faq that talks about editing files I would like to know. I am not trained in computers just determined to learn. Thanks in advance for any help here.
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
hmmm...both of the computers I've seen this problem on had Via chipsets on their motherboards. Dacia --- flupke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, > so I hope I won't say > anything stoopid or something that has already been > said. > If I understand, the problem here is all the dump of > the stack and > registers caused by a page default or something at > the end of a shutdown. > > I have the same problem. I think it only happens on > Motherboards with VIA > chips. I don't mind about it since it doesn't cause > any damage, but it is > nice to get rid of that bad stuff. > I solved the problem by modifying the > /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt file and > change the line > eval $command -i -d -p > to > eval $command -i -d > > PS : > http://www.mandrakeuser.org/troubles/tquick1.html > :-) > > HTH > Flupke > > On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote: > > > I second what Ronald wrote...I went to DRAKCONF > and > > found it there no problem and disabled it. > Shutdown and > > there were all the things on the screen > again...full screen > > all over the screen... > > > > I also already had the power management in KDE > disabled > > as well. > > > > Oh, well it was worth a shot. > > > > Anyway, reboot works just fine :) > > > > Bambi > > > > > > "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > > > > > Paul wrote: > > > > > > > Log in as root, or run "su" > > > > Then run "setup" in a console > > > > Go to system services, and uncheck the APM > daemon. it is right below the > > > > anacron daemon. > > > > After a reboot you're all set! > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > Hi. Well, I opened up a shell on my desktop, > > > ran su, password, typed in "setup" and it told > > > me, "bash: command not found". > > > > > > So I went into the DRAKCONF and ran startup, > > > found it (under anacron, like you said) and > > > disabled it. Unfortunately, after powering > > > down, and rebooting, the problem still exists. > > > I also have dmps disabled from the kde desktop > > > (don't know if that needed to be or not). Any > > > other possible ideas as to what it might be? > > > > > > (Thanks to Dennis Myers for the DRAKCONF tip) > > > > > > Thanks much! > > > > > > PS Did you see the reply I posted with the > details > > > on the screen that I'm left with? Maybe you can > > > find a clue there... > > > > > > See ya... > > > > > > > > -- > << There's no place like ~ ! >> > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
That probably will not work. My brother disabled the apm daemon in linux not advanced power management in his BIOS. I had to do BOTH to make mine work. The easiest way I know to disable the apmd is to open DrakConf, click startup services and uncheck the box by apmd. It won't take affect until the next time you boot however. Dacia --- "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dacia and AzureRose wrote: > > > > My brother had this same problem and we found that > in > > his case it was because of a conflict between his > > motherboard advanced power management features and > the > > way linux was trying to access those functions. > > > > He disabled apmd and it stopped happening. > > > > Dacia > > Hi Dacia. Hmm. I'll go into my Bios and try that > then. Power management -is- working here though. > My system goes through the stages, the screen- > saver kicks in (love that Matrix one!), then a > few minutes later, the monitor goes black, etc, > etc,... I do have the shutdown options for the > other system components (fan, HD, etc) turned off > though. > > Thanks for the suggestion! > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
That worked on my brother computer. He has a SOYO socket 7 motherboard. I forget the exact model. He disabled apmd and it got better. When I had that same motherboard in my old computer I had to disable Advanced power management in my bios and apmd to get it to stop. Dacia --- Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote: > > >Same hereI don't shutdown the computer...I only > reboot and shut > >off the computer from there, I hate getting error > messages! :) > > > >> BTW, I can shutdown and restart, and I do NOT > >> get this problem. Odd, eh? > > Did you all get the message Dacia sent in? In it he > says of knowing of the > same problem, and that disabling advanced power > management in the BIOS > fixed the problem > > Paul > > -- > Read the funnies. > Throw the rest of the paper away > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > Registered Linux User 174403 > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining, so I hope I won't say anything stoopid or something that has already been said. If I understand, the problem here is all the dump of the stack and registers caused by a page default or something at the end of a shutdown. I have the same problem. I think it only happens on Motherboards with VIA chips. I don't mind about it since it doesn't cause any damage, but it is nice to get rid of that bad stuff. I solved the problem by modifying the /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt file and change the line eval $command -i -d -p to eval $command -i -d PS : http://www.mandrakeuser.org/troubles/tquick1.html :-) HTH Flupke On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote: > I second what Ronald wrote...I went to DRAKCONF and > found it there no problem and disabled it. Shutdown and > there were all the things on the screen again...full screen > all over the screen... > > I also already had the power management in KDE disabled > as well. > > Oh, well it was worth a shot. > > Anyway, reboot works just fine :) > > Bambi > > > "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > > > Paul wrote: > > > > > Log in as root, or run "su" > > > Then run "setup" in a console > > > Go to system services, and uncheck the APM daemon. it is right below the > > > anacron daemon. > > > After a reboot you're all set! > > > > > > Paul > > > > Hi. Well, I opened up a shell on my desktop, > > ran su, password, typed in "setup" and it told > > me, "bash: command not found". > > > > So I went into the DRAKCONF and ran startup, > > found it (under anacron, like you said) and > > disabled it. Unfortunately, after powering > > down, and rebooting, the problem still exists. > > I also have dmps disabled from the kde desktop > > (don't know if that needed to be or not). Any > > other possible ideas as to what it might be? > > > > (Thanks to Dennis Myers for the DRAKCONF tip) > > > > Thanks much! > > > > PS Did you see the reply I posted with the details > > on the screen that I'm left with? Maybe you can > > find a clue there... > > > > See ya... > > > -- << There's no place like ~ ! >>
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...(solution)
"Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > Paul wrote: > > > APM is a service in Linux. You can disable it by running 'setup' as root, > > it is in 'system services'. > > > > Paul > > Ah, got it. I just printed out your reply, will > try that next. Ignore my earlier question! ;-) Dennis M. here, It also can be turned off by going into DrakConfig on the KDE Desk top and clicking on startup services, just unpress (is that a newbie term or what?) the APM button.
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote: >> Oops, it was not APM in the BIOS, but the APMD daemon that Dacia >> said that was disabled!! >> Sorry! > >Argh, I missed that too...anyways, I turned off >power management in Bios and of course, it made >nary a difference. > >So...how do I disable the APMD daemon? ;-) Log in as root, or run "su" Then run "setup" in a console Go to system services, and uncheck the APM daemon. it is right below the anacron daemon. After a reboot you're all set! Paul -- Read the funnies. Throw the rest of the paper away )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Paul wrote: > APM is a service in Linux. You can disable it by running 'setup' as root, > it is in 'system services'. > > Paul Ah, got it. I just printed out your reply, will try that next. Ignore my earlier question! ;-)
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Thanks Paul will look into that end of things. I didn't think I had that enabled in the bios. Bambi Paul wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > >Hi Dacia. Hmm. I'll go into my Bios and try that > >then. Power management -is- working here though. > >My system goes through the stages, the screen- > >saver kicks in (love that Matrix one!), then a > >few minutes later, the monitor goes black, etc, > >etc,... I do have the shutdown options for the > >other system components (fan, HD, etc) turned off > >though. > > APM is a service in Linux. You can disable it by running 'setup' as root, > it is in 'system services'. > > Paul > > -- > Read the funnies. > Throw the rest of the paper away > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Paul wrote: > Oops, it was not APM in the BIOS, but the APMD daemon that Dacia > said that was disabled!! > Sorry! > > Paul Argh, I missed that too...anyways, I turned off power management in Bios and of course, it made nary a difference. So...how do I disable the APMD daemon? ;-) Thanks!
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Hi Ronald, I have a dual boot system with Win98 and Linux Mandrake 7.0 (Air). Actually I have a Celeron 366mhz ...I do not use power-management. I have one hard drive that doesn't recover from power-management on the hard drives (old 540 meg - my 3rd drive - is actually mainly a place holder more than anything else..to keep my CDRom as F: in Windows 98 for a program that I don't want to re-install that I can't find the little file that designates the CDRom drive letter in it, and my screensaver in Linux works fine for me, and of course the screen blanks on its own if left in log-in screen. Power management on my PC hasn't been an issue for me. If I were on a laptop...that would be different. I will have to verify whether it is actually enabled in the bios though to see if that is the situation with shutting down errors here. I don't see it as a problem though...I reboot and shut off the computer works like a champ and no errors. Bambi "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > Fran Parker wrote: > > > > Same hereI don't shutdown the computer...I only reboot and shut > > off the computer from there, I hate getting error messages! :) > > > > Bambi > > Hi. Yeah, me too...if I wanted a lot of error > messages, I could have got a Windog machine, > which I've never owned in my life, even > though I've been "into" computing since '83 > when I first bought an Atari 800XL... ;-) > > You probably caught the other replies, but the > suggestions run along the lines of: > > 1) Turn power management off > 2) problem with AMD processors, get a patch > > I'm still online, so I'll try 1) when I get off, > and I'll see if Mandrake's site has anything about > a shutdown problem with AMD processors. BTW, are > U using an AMD CPU? > > Let me know if any of these work for you, and I'll > do the same! ;-) > > PS If its the patch, I'm assuming (dangerous!) > that v7.1 should have it fixed...
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote: >Hi Dacia. Hmm. I'll go into my Bios and try that >then. Power management -is- working here though. >My system goes through the stages, the screen- >saver kicks in (love that Matrix one!), then a >few minutes later, the monitor goes black, etc, >etc,... I do have the shutdown options for the >other system components (fan, HD, etc) turned off >though. APM is a service in Linux. You can disable it by running 'setup' as root, it is in 'system services'. Paul -- Read the funnies. Throw the rest of the paper away )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote: >Same hereI don't shutdown the computer...I only reboot and shut >off the computer from there, I hate getting error messages! :) > >> BTW, I can shutdown and restart, and I do NOT >> get this problem. Odd, eh? Did you all get the message Dacia sent in? In it he says of knowing of the same problem, and that disabling advanced power management in the BIOS fixed the problem Paul -- Read the funnies. Throw the rest of the paper away )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote: >Same hereI don't shutdown the computer...I only reboot and shut >off the computer from there, I hate getting error messages! :) > >Bambi Oops, it was not APM in the BIOS, but the APMD daemon that Dacia said that was disabled!! Sorry! Paul -- Read the funnies. Throw the rest of the paper away )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...]
I don't have your original message here...but I think you said you were using an AMD CPU...I think there was a shutdown problem and a subsequent patch for itmaybe that is the problem. (if I am remembering your hardware correctly) HTH Jaguar "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul wrote: > > > You listed your hardware well, but could you also be more specific about > > the error message? > > It is difficult to understand what happens when "something to do with > > rec.d" is all the info we have. > > > > Thanks for segmenting again, > > Paul > > > > -- > > I'm not a complete idiot. > > Some parts are missing. > > > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > > Registered Linux User 174403 > > Hi Paul. Thanks for the reply. Okay. I'll do > that next message. Just as soon as I shutdown > and copy that message down. Its a full > screen, so be prepared. ;-) > > BTW, I can shutdown and restart, and I do NOT > get this problem. Odd, eh? The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Same hereI don't shutdown the computer...I only reboot and shut off the computer from there, I hate getting error messages! :) Bambi "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > Paul wrote: > > > You listed your hardware well, but could you also be more specific about > > the error message? > > It is difficult to understand what happens when "something to do with > > rec.d" is all the info we have. > > > > Thanks for segmenting again, > > Paul > > > > -- > > I'm not a complete idiot. > > Some parts are missing. > > > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > > Registered Linux User 174403 > > Hi Paul. Thanks for the reply. Okay. I'll do > that next message. Just as soon as I shutdown > and copy that message down. Its a full > screen, so be prepared. ;-) > > BTW, I can shutdown and restart, and I do NOT > get this problem. Odd, eh?
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
My brother had this same problem and we found that in his case it was because of a conflict between his motherboard advanced power management features and the way linux was trying to access those functions. He disabled apmd and it stopped happening. Dacia --- "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul wrote: > > > You listed your hardware well, but could you also > be more specific about > > the error message? > > It is difficult to understand what happens when > "something to do with > > rec.d" is all the info we have. > > > > Thanks for segmenting again, > > Paul > > > > -- > > I'm not a complete idiot. > > Some parts are missing. > > > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > > Registered Linux User 174403 > > Hi Paul. Thanks for the reply. Okay. I'll do > that next message. Just as soon as I shutdown > and copy that message down. Its a full > screen, so be prepared. ;-) > > BTW, I can shutdown and restart, and I do NOT > get this problem. Odd, eh? > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
Paul wrote: > You listed your hardware well, but could you also be more specific about > the error message? > It is difficult to understand what happens when "something to do with > rec.d" is all the info we have. > > Thanks for segmenting again, > Paul > > -- > I'm not a complete idiot. > Some parts are missing. > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > Registered Linux User 174403 Hi Paul. Thanks for the reply. Okay. I'll do that next message. Just as soon as I shutdown and copy that message down. Its a full screen, so be prepared. ;-) BTW, I can shutdown and restart, and I do NOT get this problem. Odd, eh?
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote: >Until shutdown. No matter how I shutdown, from >the graphical logon screen, to "shutdown now" >from a shell, I always get a final B&W text >screen that displays a segmentation error, with >an error in line x, something to do with rec.d. You listed your hardware well, but could you also be more specific about the error message? It is difficult to understand what happens when "something to do with rec.d" is all the info we have. Thanks for segmenting again, Paul -- I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
