Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
On Wed, 17 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >configuring sound. Lothar or sndconfig both error out with an error in an >isapnp call. "Don't know what to do with (lines?) 3, 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 12, or >15 on or about line 453." "/etc/isapnp.conf:453 -- fatal no action >taken" And that file shows failed on next boot. This if for a SoundBlaster >AWE64. I have more research to do. -Gary- Strange thing. I have an SB Awe 64 Value, and that works fine. I can't help you with the isapnp thing. I looked at it and it leaves me quite confused. Only thing that I can do is assure that it can work. Good luck, Paul )0(---)0( 2nd Law of Tests: 80% of the final will be on the one lecture you missed about the one book you didn't read. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
P.S. My Osborne ran as quick and more stable that Win98. It didn't do as much and was MUCH less infuriating. Now, if I could get Linux configured so that I could get on with it. It's like my first evening working with WordStar: work five minutes, and then read thirty minutes to find out either how to undo a mistake I made or how to do the next thing. No, linux is taking much more time. WordPerfect and StarOffice won't work together; I've given up on StarOffice. Now I'm having trouble configuring sound. Lothar or sndconfig both error out with an error in an isapnp call. "Don't know what to do with (lines?) 3, 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 12, or 15 on or about line 453." "/etc/isapnp.conf:453 -- fatal no action taken" And that file shows failed on next boot. This if for a SoundBlaster AWE64. I have more research to do. -Gary-
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
My tan case Osborne was the first of a new type of computer: the luggable. I'm glad that luggable has gone out of common usage. -Gary-
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
On Tue, 16 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >These new guys don't realize what a revolution the TRS-80 was. At any >rate, I don't know enough to much around with X configuration (I was hoping >somebody would tell me when I first wrote a couple of weeks ago). At any >rate I had nothing much to lose since it was a new install, so for >consistancy sake I did things the same way to find out just what was going Looks like there are more than a few that date back to the time were computers still were real machines :) TRS-80, Osborne, CPM. Those were the days. Paul )0(---)0( Law of Tests: When reviewing your notes before an exam, the most important ones will be illegible. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
On Mon, 15 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>Also, why is it so important to have Wordperfect in addition to Star Office >(or visa >versa)? >I'm used to Word Perfect (and have a book about half-done with it) and I >like it. I would also like to have a spread-sheet program under Linux. I'm Of course there is Gnumeric. It does not have all the toots and bells that Excel has, like graphs, but for the greater part it is real good, I like it. Paul )0(---)0( Law of Life's Highway: If everything is coming your way, you're in the wrong lane. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Also, why is it so important to have Wordperfect in addition to Star Office > (or visa >versa)? > I'm used to Word Perfect (and have a book about half-done with it) and I > like it. I would also like to have a spread-sheet program under Linux. I'm > dual-booting for now, but I'm so fed up with Win98 error messages, BSODs, > etc. that I can't wait to be done with it, and a spread-sheet program in > Linux is one less reason to have to continue with Windows. Me too... I had Quattro/Quattro Pro in DOS (Happily), Windoze (forced), and Linux (happily). WP in Dos/Win/Linux. WP Office is just.. Better.. I only wish it was witten in native Linux MarkP
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
Alan Shoemaker wrote: > Alan > > P.S. I bought my first computer in 1978, it was a TRS-80 Model > I with 4 K of ram and a cassette deck to load programs and > save data. This was way before my first wordprocessor, > Electric Pencil. :-) > Hey Alan remember when the "new thing" was Wordstar? I have a similar history with the Apple ][, still got pieces of a Commodore 64 around here somewhere, used it on packet radio in my ham days. Before you could talk around the world instantly! take care, vern -- Vernon Stilwell**Hardinsburg,Ky USA**[EMAIL PROTECTED] "You raise the blade, you make the change, you re-arrange me 'till I'm sane. You lock the door, and throw away the key, there's someone in my head but it's not me" 1973 Pink Floyd Music Publishers Ltd.
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
Garyso do you really need Star Office? I ask because whatever anomaly is causing this is getting you down and maybe a compromise is the best way out. Wasn't recofiguring X enough to fix things. Did you look for damage to the /etc/X11/XF86Config file? Possibly backing this file up before installing and restoring it when problems occur? I knew that the solutions I suggest are not remedies, but patches and work-a-rounds. sorry I can't be a better help. Alan P.S. I bought my first computer in 1978, it was a TRS-80 Model I with 4 K of ram and a cassette deck to load programs and save data. This was way before my first wordprocessor, Electric Pencil. :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > replying to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Garywhat does "reload Linux" mean exactly? > After each problem with WordPerfect and StarOffice I did a total > reinstall: partition, format, the works. > > >Install of what, gave an '"install failed" at about 80% complete'? > Sorry for summarizing to the point of loss-- Word Perfect (except where > previously noted) was in place, and the Star Office install stopped with an > "install failed" message at about 80% complete. Trying to reboot showed that > the damage had already been done, again. > > >Also, why is it so important to have Wordperfect in addition to Star Office > (or visa >versa)? > I'm used to Word Perfect (and have a book about half-done with it) and I > like it. I would also like to have a spread-sheet program under Linux. I'm > dual-booting for now, but I'm so fed up with Win98 error messages, BSODs, > etc. that I can't wait to be done with it, and a spread-sheet program in > Linux is one less reason to have to continue with Windows. I've never liked > Microsoft's operating systems: I used DRDOS and Novell DOS when there was > still a choice. I looked seriously at Unix, but couldn't afford it sometime > shortly after the founding of the Free Software Foundation, well before the > Linux kernel was born. Maybe some of you should put me out to pasture: I > learned wordprocessing with WordStar 2.2 on an Osborne tan case under CP/M. > I hex patched printer driver strings when I didn't know if that was supposed > to be a zero or letter O. You knew I had to be some kind of crazy to install > Linux so many times, didn't you? Seems crazy to me. And I know my wife > thinks all of this is crazy; I think she's thankful it's this and not sports. > -Gary- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I've registered my copy of Word Perfect, and with my video properly > > configured again tried to install Star Office when Word Perfect was already > > in place, and it still corrupts Xwindows to the extent that I have to reload > > Linux to fix it. Summarizing many installs of Linux and WP/SO: 1) generic > > video or fully configured makes no difference, 2) whether Word Perfect has > > had its registration number entered or not makes no difference, 3) hdparm > > either default or c3d1, and desktop configuration makes no difference, 4) > > whether other RPMs have been installed or not makes no difference, and 5) > the > > order of WP and SO makes no difference. The last couple of times I've > gotten > > "install failed" at about 80% complete, which I had not gotten earlier, and > I > > don't know what is responsible for that change. In all cases, everything > > seems fine until a reboot. I can't think of anything that might be > > responsible for this failure to get both WP and SO installed. I've spent a > > couple of weeks going through the various permutations, and the only > > conclusion I can come to is that this just isn't going to work for me, > though > > I was encouraged and gladdened by others of you successfully installing them > > both. Thank you all for your assistance and your suggestions. -Gary-
re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
replying to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Garywhat does "reload Linux" mean exactly? After each problem with WordPerfect and StarOffice I did a total reinstall: partition, format, the works. >Install of what, gave an '"install failed" at about 80% complete'? Sorry for summarizing to the point of loss-- Word Perfect (except where previously noted) was in place, and the Star Office install stopped with an "install failed" message at about 80% complete. Trying to reboot showed that the damage had already been done, again. >Also, why is it so important to have Wordperfect in addition to Star Office (or visa >versa)? I'm used to Word Perfect (and have a book about half-done with it) and I like it. I would also like to have a spread-sheet program under Linux. I'm dual-booting for now, but I'm so fed up with Win98 error messages, BSODs, etc. that I can't wait to be done with it, and a spread-sheet program in Linux is one less reason to have to continue with Windows. I've never liked Microsoft's operating systems: I used DRDOS and Novell DOS when there was still a choice. I looked seriously at Unix, but couldn't afford it sometime shortly after the founding of the Free Software Foundation, well before the Linux kernel was born. Maybe some of you should put me out to pasture: I learned wordprocessing with WordStar 2.2 on an Osborne tan case under CP/M. I hex patched printer driver strings when I didn't know if that was supposed to be a zero or letter O. You knew I had to be some kind of crazy to install Linux so many times, didn't you? Seems crazy to me. And I know my wife thinks all of this is crazy; I think she's thankful it's this and not sports. -Gary- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I've registered my copy of Word Perfect, and with my video properly > configured again tried to install Star Office when Word Perfect was already > in place, and it still corrupts Xwindows to the extent that I have to reload > Linux to fix it. Summarizing many installs of Linux and WP/SO: 1) generic > video or fully configured makes no difference, 2) whether Word Perfect has > had its registration number entered or not makes no difference, 3) hdparm > either default or c3d1, and desktop configuration makes no difference, 4) > whether other RPMs have been installed or not makes no difference, and 5) the > order of WP and SO makes no difference. The last couple of times I've gotten > "install failed" at about 80% complete, which I had not gotten earlier, and I > don't know what is responsible for that change. In all cases, everything > seems fine until a reboot. I can't think of anything that might be > responsible for this failure to get both WP and SO installed. I've spent a > couple of weeks going through the various permutations, and the only > conclusion I can come to is that this just isn't going to work for me, though > I was encouraged and gladdened by others of you successfully installing them > both. Thank you all for your assistance and your suggestions. -Gary-
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
Garywhat does "reload Linux" mean exactly? Install of what, gave an '"install failed" at about 80% complete'? Also, why is it so important to have Wordperfect in addition to Star Office (or visa versa)? Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I've registered my copy of Word Perfect, and with my video properly > configured again tried to install Star Office when Word Perfect was already > in place, and it still corrupts Xwindows to the extent that I have to reload > Linux to fix it. Summarizing many installs of Linux and WP/SO: 1) generic > video or fully configured makes no difference, 2) whether Word Perfect has > had its registration number entered or not makes no difference, 3) hdparm > either default or c3d1, and desktop configuration makes no difference, 4) > whether other RPMs have been installed or not makes no difference, and 5) the > order of WP and SO makes no difference. The last couple of times I've gotten > "install failed" at about 80% complete, which I had not gotten earlier, and I > don't know what is responsible for that change. In all cases, everything > seems fine until a reboot. I can't think of anything that might be > responsible for this failure to get both WP and SO installed. I've spent a > couple of weeks going through the various permutations, and the only > conclusion I can come to is that this just isn't going to work for me, though > I was encouraged and gladdened by others of you successfully installing them > both. Thank you all for your assistance and your suggestions. -Gary-
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
I've registered my copy of Word Perfect, and with my video properly configured again tried to install Star Office when Word Perfect was already in place, and it still corrupts Xwindows to the extent that I have to reload Linux to fix it. Summarizing many installs of Linux and WP/SO: 1) generic video or fully configured makes no difference, 2) whether Word Perfect has had its registration number entered or not makes no difference, 3) hdparm either default or c3d1, and desktop configuration makes no difference, 4) whether other RPMs have been installed or not makes no difference, and 5) the order of WP and SO makes no difference. The last couple of times I've gotten "install failed" at about 80% complete, which I had not gotten earlier, and I don't know what is responsible for that change. In all cases, everything seems fine until a reboot. I can't think of anything that might be responsible for this failure to get both WP and SO installed. I've spent a couple of weeks going through the various permutations, and the only conclusion I can come to is that this just isn't going to work for me, though I was encouraged and gladdened by others of you successfully installing them both. Thank you all for your assistance and your suggestions. -Gary-
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
It seems to be scrambling the configuration of Xwindows itself. On 5/4 I wrote: "After 6 full installs, I now know what was corrupting my X. It was not desktop configuration, hdparm, video setup (as generics), or any of the other RPMs I loaded from Mandrake 7 Deluxe, (modem & sound not configured) --Star Office so corrupted X that it froze Linux during boot, while trying to switch over to graphical login. I had made many changes during the install, and fully recreated everything (except for the one thing I was testing) when reloading. During only one iteration was I able to get a (frozen) console screen, which showed these messages: bad length in Geometry, output file /var/tmp/server-0.xkm removed, couldn't load XKB keymap, Font Trans Socket UNIX Connect: can't connect: errno-111, failed to set default font path 1unix/:-1, and fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'. The Star Office RPM appeared to run and end normally." As I indicated in the message you responded to, I have continued testing with an extremely simple configuration, and I have learned that it's the combination of WordPerfect and StarOffice that is causing the problems. I have no other problems (that I know of, since sound is still not configured, and my modem was found and works however no programs are setup actually use it yet--I'v spent so much time with this...). Install does not correctly detect my graphics card, however what it installs is completely servicable except for the low refresh rate. I believe when video and monitor are correct I have the same result (frankly I've done this so many times I can't remember). I'm glad to know that these two can co-exist -- would the fact that I haven't gotten a registration number for Word Perfect make any difference [I've been spending all of my time reading "newbie" and doing these installs]? I wouldn't think so. -Gary-
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
Got my Star Office and Word Perfect off the Mandrake disks also. -Gary-
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> GaryI certainly can't say what it is that caused your > problems, but I have both SO and WP running on my mdk 7.0 > system and have experienced no problems. Mine were installed > from disc 5 of the MandrakeSoft Powerpack 7.0. Same here... Glenn Crouch mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:36017076 ESB Consultancy, http://www.esbconsult.com.au Home of ESBPCS, ESBStats, ESBPDF Analysis & ESBCalc Kalgoorlie-Boulder, Western Australia (TeamND, TeamOE, Addict Support, eLists.org Management)
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
Gary, I would hate to tell you this but I have installed and still use WP and SO together on the same machine, same Linux distro without a problem. I would suggest it may be a problem with your graphics card perhaps. Wayne On Thu, 11 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Any ideas on getting WP and SO to peacefully co-exist? > Several more full installs of Mandrake-Linux 7 has determined that Word > Perfect and Star Office will not co-exist. Clean installation configurations > (fresh wipe and install, with no alterations and no other RPMs) show either > alone will install, but together (installing them in either order) they > corrupt X windows [both are from the RPM CD included with the Mandrake 7 > deluxe package]. > An "update" install to correct X windows hangs at "writing RPM database". > What is the correct method to refresh X windows [it's obvious that what I'm > doing is not the way]? Gary Prichard > > -- * * Wayne Petherick Criminology Department Bond University * *
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
GaryI certainly can't say what it is that caused your problems, but I have both SO and WP running on my mdk 7.0 system and have experienced no problems. Mine were installed from disc 5 of the MandrakeSoft Powerpack 7.0. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Any ideas on getting WP and SO to peacefully co-exist? > Several more full installs of Mandrake-Linux 7 has determined that Word > Perfect and Star Office will not co-exist. Clean installation configurations > (fresh wipe and install, with no alterations and no other RPMs) show either > alone will install, but together (installing them in either order) they > corrupt X windows [both are from the RPM CD included with the Mandrake 7 > deluxe package]. > An "update" install to correct X windows hangs at "writing RPM database". > What is the correct method to refresh X windows [it's obvious that what I'm > doing is not the way]? Gary Prichard
Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7
On Thu, 11 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Any ideas on getting WP and SO to peacefully co-exist? >Several more full installs of Mandrake-Linux 7 has determined that Word >Perfect and Star Office will not co-exist. Clean installation configurations >(fresh wipe and install, with no alterations and no other RPMs) show either >alone will install, but together (installing them in either order) they >corrupt X windows [both are from the RPM CD included with the Mandrake 7 >deluxe package]. >An "update" install to correct X windows hangs at "writing RPM database". > What is the correct method to refresh X windows [it's obvious that what I'm >doing is not the way]? Gary Prichard This is strange to me. I have a machine that runs both WP8 and SO5.1. And yes, in Mandrake 7.02. But I did not do anything with RPM's on these programs, I downloaded the tarballs and installed them from there. Perhaps that would make a difference? Paul )0(---)0( Also do usual things unusually well )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
