wds not showing x86 install images

[Jimmy Tran]

Hi All,

 

I have WDS all setup to properly deploy x64 OS's finally.  Now, I'm
trying to get a x86 image to install but I'm running into some issues.
The first thing I noticed is when PXE starts up, it detects the laptop
as a x64 box.  I then select my x86 boot image.  When WDS comes up, only
see my x64 image.  I cannot see my x86 image.  My permissions are
correct and my boot.wim's are correct.  What gives?

 

I did some searching and noticed that if you boot to a x64 boot.wim, you
should see the x86 install images as well but that didn't work for me.
I need to deploy some images urgently.  Any help is appreciated.

 

Jimmy

 


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Re: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update

[Andrew S. Baker]

I agree.  I've seen it used way too often by many organizations.

Try something over the top, and fall back to a reasonable backup plan if an
outcry occurs.

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On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:

> I find it a little hard to believe that VMWare was able to react this
> quickly to customer outcry. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but the "revised
> licensing" seems a lot like a Plan B they had waiting just in case customers
> responded poorly to the original vRAM entitlements that were announced with
> vSphere 5.
>
> With that said, I'm glad the changes were made as it will make our
> licensing procurement a little easier on the checkbook.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Aug 3, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Jonathan  wrote:
>
> Hahaha, true!
>
> Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE
>
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the
> Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings.
>
> On Aug 3, 2011 6:01 PM, "Gary Slinger" < 
> gary.slin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I like how their competition will have been spooling up marketing
> campaigns to capitalize on this, and are now going 'oh, crap..." :)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Andrew S. Baker" < asbz...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:58:02
> > To: NT System Admin Issues< 
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> > Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" <
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> > Subject: Re: Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
> >
> > Yep, I need to review it this week...
> >
> > I like how all these companies can spin "We just through up a dumb idea
> and
> > now have to backtrack" to "we listened to our customers and partners, and
> > decided to refine a few things..."
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *ASB* * 
> > http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker**Harnessing 
> > the Advantages of
> > Technology for the SMB market…
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Gary Slinger < 
> gary.slin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Now that it's public, this may be of interest, given the gnashing of
> teeth
> >> recently.
> >>
> >> G
> >>
> >> --Original Message--
> >> From: The VMware Team
> >> To: Gary Slinger
> >> ReplyTo: The VMware Team
> >> Subject: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
> >> Sent: Aug 3, 2011 17:40
> >>
> >> View this email on mobile devices | View the online version
> >> VMware vSphere 5 Licensing & Pricing Update Dear VMware Partner,
> >> On July 12, 2011, VMware announced our new Cloud Infrastructure Suite.
> The
> >> launch featured vSphere 5, the newest version of our flagship product.
> >> As many of you know, as part of this announcement, we introduced changes
> to
> >> the vSphere licensing model in order to align costs with the benefits of
> >> virtualization rather than with the physical attributes of individual
> >> servers. While our goal was to provide a licensing model based on
> >> consumption and value rather than physical components and capacity, we
> >> strived to make the new model as non-disruptive as possible.
> >> These changes generated much debate in the blogosphere, in conversations
> >> with our partners and customers, and across VMware communities. Some of
> the
> >> discussion had to do with confusion around the changes. We have been
> >> watching the blog commentaries carefully, and we have been listening to
> the
> >> partner and customer conversations very intently. A great deal of
> feedback
> >> was provided that examined the impact of the new licensing model on
> every
> >> possible use case and scenario, and equally importantly, reflected our
> >> partners’ and customers’ intense passion for VMware.
> >> Our success depends on the active involvement of our channel partners.
> We
> >> are a company built on partner and customer goodwill, and we’ve taken
> your
> >> feedback in earnest. Our primary objective is to do right by our
> customers,
> >> so we are announcing three changes to the vSphere 5 licensing model that
> >> address the most recurring areas of your feedback.
> >> • We’ve increased vRAM entitlements for all vSphere editions, including
> >> the doubling of the entitlements for vSphere Enterprise and Enterprise
> Plus.
> >> This change addresses concerns about future-looking business cases that
> were
> >> based on future hardware capabilities and the previous vSphere licensing
> >> model. Below is a comparison of the previously announced and the new
> >> vSphere 5 vRAM enti
> >>
>
>

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Re: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update

[Gary Slinger]

Your tin foil is in the corner, sir. 

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:36:13 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing 
and Pricing Update

I find it a little hard to believe that VMWare was able to react this quickly 
to customer outcry. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but the "revised licensing" 
seems a lot like a Plan B they had waiting just in case customers responded 
poorly to the original vRAM entitlements that were announced with vSphere 5.

With that said, I'm glad the changes were made as it will make our licensing 
procurement a little easier on the checkbook.

- Sean

On Aug 3, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Jonathan  wrote:

> Hahaha, true!
> 
> Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE
> 
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the 
> Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings.
> 
> On Aug 3, 2011 6:01 PM, "Gary Slinger"  wrote:
> > I like how their competition will have been spooling up marketing campaigns 
> > to capitalize on this, and are now going 'oh, crap..." :)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Andrew S. Baker" 
> > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:58:02 
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> > Subject: Re: Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
> > 
> > Yep, I need to review it this week...
> > 
> > I like how all these companies can spin "We just through up a dumb idea and
> > now have to backtrack" to "we listened to our customers and partners, and
> > decided to refine a few things..."
> > 
> > * *
> > 
> > *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
> > Technology for the SMB market…
> > 
> > *
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Gary Slinger  wrote:
> > 
> >> Now that it's public, this may be of interest, given the gnashing of teeth
> >> recently.
> >>
> >> G
> >>
> >> --Original Message--
> >> From: The VMware Team
> >> To: Gary Slinger
> >> ReplyTo: The VMware Team
> >> Subject: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
> >> Sent: Aug 3, 2011 17:40
> >>
> >> View this email on mobile devices | View the online version
> >> VMware vSphere 5 Licensing & Pricing Update Dear VMware Partner,
> >> On July 12, 2011, VMware announced our new Cloud Infrastructure Suite. The
> >> launch featured vSphere 5, the newest version of our flagship product.
> >> As many of you know, as part of this announcement, we introduced changes to
> >> the vSphere licensing model in order to align costs with the benefits of
> >> virtualization rather than with the physical attributes of individual
> >> servers. While our goal was to provide a licensing model based on
> >> consumption and value rather than physical components and capacity, we
> >> strived to make the new model as non-disruptive as possible.
> >> These changes generated much debate in the blogosphere, in conversations
> >> with our partners and customers, and across VMware communities. Some of the
> >> discussion had to do with confusion around the changes. We have been
> >> watching the blog commentaries carefully, and we have been listening to the
> >> partner and customer conversations very intently. A great deal of feedback
> >> was provided that examined the impact of the new licensing model on every
> >> possible use case and scenario, and equally importantly, reflected our
> >> partners’ and customers’ intense passion for VMware.
> >> Our success depends on the active involvement of our channel partners. We
> >> are a company built on partner and customer goodwill, and we’ve taken your
> >> feedback in earnest. Our primary objective is to do right by our customers,
> >> so we are announcing three changes to the vSphere 5 licensing model that
> >> address the most recurring areas of your feedback.
> >> • We’ve increased vRAM entitlements for all vSphere editions, including
> >> the doubling of the entitlements for vSphere Enterprise and Enterprise 
> >> Plus.
> >> This change addresses concerns about future-looking business cases that 
> >> were
> >> based on future hardware capabilities and the previous vSphere licensing
> >> model. Below is a comparison of the previously announced and the new
> >> vSphere 5 vRAM enti
> >>
> > 
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Re: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update

[Sean Martin]

I find it a little hard to believe that VMWare was able to react this quickly 
to customer outcry. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but the "revised licensing" 
seems a lot like a Plan B they had waiting just in case customers responded 
poorly to the original vRAM entitlements that were announced with vSphere 5.

With that said, I'm glad the changes were made as it will make our licensing 
procurement a little easier on the checkbook.

- Sean

On Aug 3, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Jonathan  wrote:

> Hahaha, true!
> 
> Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE
> 
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the 
> Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings.
> 
> On Aug 3, 2011 6:01 PM, "Gary Slinger"  wrote:
> > I like how their competition will have been spooling up marketing campaigns 
> > to capitalize on this, and are now going 'oh, crap..." :)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Andrew S. Baker" 
> > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:58:02 
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> > Subject: Re: Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
> > 
> > Yep, I need to review it this week...
> > 
> > I like how all these companies can spin "We just through up a dumb idea and
> > now have to backtrack" to "we listened to our customers and partners, and
> > decided to refine a few things..."
> > 
> > * *
> > 
> > *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
> > Technology for the SMB market…
> > 
> > *
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Gary Slinger  wrote:
> > 
> >> Now that it's public, this may be of interest, given the gnashing of teeth
> >> recently.
> >>
> >> G
> >>
> >> --Original Message--
> >> From: The VMware Team
> >> To: Gary Slinger
> >> ReplyTo: The VMware Team
> >> Subject: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
> >> Sent: Aug 3, 2011 17:40
> >>
> >> View this email on mobile devices | View the online version
> >> VMware vSphere 5 Licensing & Pricing Update Dear VMware Partner,
> >> On July 12, 2011, VMware announced our new Cloud Infrastructure Suite. The
> >> launch featured vSphere 5, the newest version of our flagship product.
> >> As many of you know, as part of this announcement, we introduced changes to
> >> the vSphere licensing model in order to align costs with the benefits of
> >> virtualization rather than with the physical attributes of individual
> >> servers. While our goal was to provide a licensing model based on
> >> consumption and value rather than physical components and capacity, we
> >> strived to make the new model as non-disruptive as possible.
> >> These changes generated much debate in the blogosphere, in conversations
> >> with our partners and customers, and across VMware communities. Some of the
> >> discussion had to do with confusion around the changes. We have been
> >> watching the blog commentaries carefully, and we have been listening to the
> >> partner and customer conversations very intently. A great deal of feedback
> >> was provided that examined the impact of the new licensing model on every
> >> possible use case and scenario, and equally importantly, reflected our
> >> partners’ and customers’ intense passion for VMware.
> >> Our success depends on the active involvement of our channel partners. We
> >> are a company built on partner and customer goodwill, and we’ve taken your
> >> feedback in earnest. Our primary objective is to do right by our customers,
> >> so we are announcing three changes to the vSphere 5 licensing model that
> >> address the most recurring areas of your feedback.
> >> • We’ve increased vRAM entitlements for all vSphere editions, including
> >> the doubling of the entitlements for vSphere Enterprise and Enterprise 
> >> Plus.
> >> This change addresses concerns about future-looking business cases that 
> >> were
> >> based on future hardware capabilities and the previous vSphere licensing
> >> model. Below is a comparison of the previously announced and the new
> >> vSphere 5 vRAM enti
> >>
> > 
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Re: MS Windows Intune

[Kurt Buff]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:38, Phil Garven  wrote:

> I like cloud based services, don't have to worry about backups, redundancy,
> updates etc.

Um, yes you do

Perhaps even more than when doing your own hosting.

Or haven't you been keeping up with the news on data loss and/or
downtime lately?

Kurt

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RE: Open source monitor with Agent

[Shawn Everett]

The Windows agent is called nsclient++.  As JLC pointed out, you configure
Nagios to use passive services when collecting that data.

I use it on many Windows boxes behind firewalls with great success.

I've even managed to write a few custom plugins for things like NTBACKUP,
ValultLogix, Oracle and the like.  Nagios plugins are very simple to put
together so you can monitor almost anything.

As a client up sell, offer them active monitoring by putting a Nagios
appliance on site that sends it's results back to your main Nagios box. 
This is called Distributed Monitoring.

Shawn

> Yep.. but.. and I'm being picky here...
> What if I don't want to use Nagios?
> By the way, this IS to monitor Windows boxes.
>
> Thx
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Open source monitor with Agent
>
> It's called a passive check, Nagios will check the freshness of the update
> such that if it hasn't received an update in a specified amount of time it
> faults and dispatches an alert.
>
> This allows you to run code locally and send the results formatted which
> provides the advantage that you can use native methods to do this without
> installing something. I am not a fan of the Nagios clients for windows so
> I
> do this with either snmp or wmi for the active checks and all sorts of
> other
> scripts for the passive locally generated checks.
>
> Now you can use an addon on the Nagios side that receives the update via
> HTTP post, or you can write to the Nagios cmd file via remote ssh command
> from a limited privileged account etc...
>
> It's very doable.
> jlc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:01 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Open source monitor with Agent
>
> Morning folks!
> Hope everyone is well.
>
> I am familiar with Nagios (somewhat) and how it works but I was
> wondering
> Is there anything like Nagios that allows you to put an agent on a machine
> and have the machine call the server to update?
> The downside to Nagios is having to deal with firewall issues, so if there
> was something that went outbound, it would be perfect.
> I have looked & used SpiceWorks but it just can't do what Nagios does, and
> not feasible to run on each workstation by itself.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
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RE: find duplicate files

[Crawford, Scott]

It just stopped responding.  I'm guessing it ran out of ram, but I haven't 
investigated much.

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 3:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: find duplicate files

This app failed on 2? I actually never thought about it...as I was just 
checking my home directory shares (approx 1tb)
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Crawford, Scott 
mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:
How big of a volume have you tried it on?  Mine choked on about 2tb.  I can't 
really imagine how it would handle 20.

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: find duplicate files

www.easyduplicatefinder.com Works pretty 
well!



On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Bill Humphries 
mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

Any suggestions for a tool that I could use to search for duplicate files on a 
20tb Xsan?  Although it primarily has Macs attached to it, I do have one 
windows machine.

Thanks.

Bill

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Re: Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update

[Jonathan]

Hahaha, true!

Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the
Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings.

On Aug 3, 2011 6:01 PM, "Gary Slinger"  wrote:
> I like how their competition will have been spooling up marketing
campaigns to capitalize on this, and are now going 'oh, crap..." :)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Andrew S. Baker" 
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:58:02
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: Re: Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
>
> Yep, I need to review it this week...
>
> I like how all these companies can spin "We just through up a dumb idea
and
> now have to backtrack" to "we listened to our customers and partners, and
> decided to refine a few things..."
>
> * *
>
> *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
> Technology for the SMB market…
>
> *
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Gary Slinger 
wrote:
>
>> Now that it's public, this may be of interest, given the gnashing of
teeth
>> recently.
>>
>> G
>>
>> --Original Message--
>> From: The VMware Team
>> To: Gary Slinger
>> ReplyTo: The VMware Team
>> Subject: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
>> Sent: Aug 3, 2011 17:40
>>
>> View this email on mobile devices | View the online version
>> VMware vSphere 5 Licensing & Pricing Update Dear VMware Partner,
>> On July 12, 2011, VMware announced our new Cloud Infrastructure Suite.
The
>> launch featured vSphere 5, the newest version of our flagship product.
>> As many of you know, as part of this announcement, we introduced changes
to
>> the vSphere licensing model in order to align costs with the benefits of
>> virtualization rather than with the physical attributes of individual
>> servers. While our goal was to provide a licensing model based on
>> consumption and value rather than physical components and capacity, we
>> strived to make the new model as non-disruptive as possible.
>> These changes generated much debate in the blogosphere, in conversations
>> with our partners and customers, and across VMware communities. Some of
the
>> discussion had to do with confusion around the changes. We have been
>> watching the blog commentaries carefully, and we have been listening to
the
>> partner and customer conversations very intently. A great deal of
feedback
>> was provided that examined the impact of the new licensing model on every
>> possible use case and scenario, and equally importantly, reflected our
>> partners’ and customers’ intense passion for VMware.
>> Our success depends on the active involvement of our channel partners. We
>> are a company built on partner and customer goodwill, and we’ve taken
your
>> feedback in earnest. Our primary objective is to do right by our
customers,
>> so we are announcing three changes to the vSphere 5 licensing model that
>> address the most recurring areas of your feedback.
>> • We’ve increased vRAM entitlements for all vSphere editions, including
>> the doubling of the entitlements for vSphere Enterprise and Enterprise
Plus.
>> This change addresses concerns about future-looking business cases that
were
>> based on future hardware capabilities and the previous vSphere licensing
>> model. Below is a comparison of the previously announced and the new
>> vSphere 5 vRAM enti
>>
>
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Re: Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update

[Jonathan]

Gary, you beat me to the punch! I was just getting ready to send that to the
list as well.

Bottom line, the vRAM entitlement per CPU has been increased, and you won't
be "charged" for vRAM allocated to a single VM above 96 Gigs. If you have 2
CPU licenses of Enterprise Plus, that gets you 192 Gigs of pooled vRAM. If
you need to allocate more than the pooled amount to powered on VMs, then
you'll need additional licensing. Also, the high water mark is now based on
a 12 month average.

Cheers,

Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the
Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings.

On Aug 3, 2011 5:43 PM, "Gary Slinger"  wrote:
> Now that it's public, this may be of interest, given the gnashing of teeth
recently.
>
> G
>
> --Original Message--
> From: The VMware Team
> To: Gary Slinger
> ReplyTo: The VMware Team
> Subject: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
> Sent: Aug 3, 2011 17:40
>
> View this email on mobile devices | View the online version
> VMware vSphere 5 Licensing & Pricing Update Dear VMware Partner,
> On July 12, 2011, VMware announced our new Cloud Infrastructure Suite. The
launch featured vSphere 5, the newest version of our flagship product.
> As many of you know, as part of this announcement, we introduced changes
to the vSphere licensing model in order to align costs with the benefits of
virtualization rather than with the physical attributes of individual
servers. While our goal was to provide a licensing model based on
consumption and value rather than physical components and capacity, we
strived to make the new model as non-disruptive as possible.
> These changes generated much debate in the blogosphere, in conversations
with our partners and customers, and across VMware communities. Some of the
discussion had to do with confusion around the changes. We have been
watching the blog commentaries carefully, and we have been listening to the
partner and customer conversations very intently. A great deal of feedback
was provided that examined the impact of the new licensing model on every
possible use case and scenario, and equally importantly, reflected our
partners’ and customers’ intense passion for VMware.
> Our success depends on the active involvement of our channel partners. We
are a company built on partner and customer goodwill, and we’ve taken your
feedback in earnest. Our primary objective is to do right by our customers,
so we are announcing three changes to the vSphere 5 licensing model that
address the most recurring areas of your feedback.
> •   We’ve increased vRAM entitlements for all vSphere editions, including
the doubling of the entitlements for vSphere Enterprise and Enterprise Plus.
This change addresses concerns about future-looking business cases that were
based on future hardware capabilities and the previous vSphere licensing
model.  Below is a comparison of the previously announced and the new
vSphere 5 vRAM enti
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Re: Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update

[Gary Slinger]

I like how their competition will have been spooling up marketing campaigns to 
capitalize on this, and are now going 'oh, crap..." :)

-Original Message-
From: "Andrew S. Baker" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:58:02 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update

Yep, I need to review it this week...

I like how all these companies can spin "We just through up a dumb idea and
now have to backtrack" to "we listened to our customers and partners, and
decided to refine a few things..."

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On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Gary Slinger  wrote:

> Now that it's public, this may be of interest, given the gnashing of teeth
> recently.
>
> G
>
> --Original Message--
> From: The VMware Team
> To: Gary Slinger
> ReplyTo: The VMware Team
> Subject: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
> Sent: Aug 3, 2011 17:40
>
> View this email on mobile devices | View the online version
> VMware vSphere 5 Licensing & Pricing Update Dear VMware Partner,
> On July 12, 2011, VMware announced our new Cloud Infrastructure Suite. The
> launch featured vSphere 5, the newest version of our flagship product.
> As many of you know, as part of this announcement, we introduced changes to
> the vSphere licensing model in order to align costs with the benefits of
> virtualization rather than with the physical attributes of individual
> servers. While our goal was to provide a licensing model based on
> consumption and value rather than physical components and capacity, we
> strived to make the new model as non-disruptive as possible.
> These changes generated much debate in the blogosphere, in conversations
> with our partners and customers, and across VMware communities. Some of the
> discussion had to do with confusion around the changes. We have been
> watching the blog commentaries carefully, and we have been listening to the
> partner and customer conversations very intently. A great deal of feedback
> was provided that examined the impact of the new licensing model on every
> possible use case and scenario, and equally importantly, reflected our
> partners’ and customers’ intense passion for VMware.
> Our success depends on the active involvement of our channel partners. We
> are a company built on partner and customer goodwill, and we’ve taken your
> feedback in earnest. Our primary objective is to do right by our customers,
> so we are announcing three changes to the vSphere 5 licensing model that
> address the most recurring areas of your feedback.
> •   We’ve increased vRAM entitlements for all vSphere editions, including
> the doubling of the entitlements for vSphere Enterprise and Enterprise Plus.
> This change addresses concerns about future-looking business cases that were
> based on future hardware capabilities and the previous vSphere licensing
> model.  Below is a comparison of the previously announced and the new
> vSphere 5 vRAM enti
>

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Re: Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update

[Andrew S. Baker]

Yep, I need to review it this week...

I like how all these companies can spin "We just through up a dumb idea and
now have to backtrack" to "we listened to our customers and partners, and
decided to refine a few things..."

* *

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On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Gary Slinger  wrote:

> Now that it's public, this may be of interest, given the gnashing of teeth
> recently.
>
> G
>
> --Original Message--
> From: The VMware Team
> To: Gary Slinger
> ReplyTo: The VMware Team
> Subject: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
> Sent: Aug 3, 2011 17:40
>
> View this email on mobile devices | View the online version
> VMware vSphere 5 Licensing & Pricing Update Dear VMware Partner,
> On July 12, 2011, VMware announced our new Cloud Infrastructure Suite. The
> launch featured vSphere 5, the newest version of our flagship product.
> As many of you know, as part of this announcement, we introduced changes to
> the vSphere licensing model in order to align costs with the benefits of
> virtualization rather than with the physical attributes of individual
> servers. While our goal was to provide a licensing model based on
> consumption and value rather than physical components and capacity, we
> strived to make the new model as non-disruptive as possible.
> These changes generated much debate in the blogosphere, in conversations
> with our partners and customers, and across VMware communities. Some of the
> discussion had to do with confusion around the changes. We have been
> watching the blog commentaries carefully, and we have been listening to the
> partner and customer conversations very intently. A great deal of feedback
> was provided that examined the impact of the new licensing model on every
> possible use case and scenario, and equally importantly, reflected our
> partners’ and customers’ intense passion for VMware.
> Our success depends on the active involvement of our channel partners. We
> are a company built on partner and customer goodwill, and we’ve taken your
> feedback in earnest. Our primary objective is to do right by our customers,
> so we are announcing three changes to the vSphere 5 licensing model that
> address the most recurring areas of your feedback.
> •   We’ve increased vRAM entitlements for all vSphere editions, including
> the doubling of the entitlements for vSphere Enterprise and Enterprise Plus.
> This change addresses concerns about future-looking business cases that were
> based on future hardware capabilities and the previous vSphere licensing
> model.  Below is a comparison of the previously announced and the new
> vSphere 5 vRAM enti
>

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Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update

[Gary Slinger]

Now that it's public, this may be of interest, given the gnashing of teeth 
recently. 

G

--Original Message--
From: The VMware Team
To: Gary Slinger
ReplyTo: The VMware Team
Subject: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
Sent: Aug 3, 2011 17:40

View this email on mobile devices | View the online version
VMware vSphere 5 Licensing & Pricing Update Dear VMware Partner,
On July 12, 2011, VMware announced our new Cloud Infrastructure Suite. The 
launch featured vSphere 5, the newest version of our flagship product.
As many of you know, as part of this announcement, we introduced changes to the 
vSphere licensing model in order to align costs with the benefits of 
virtualization rather than with the physical attributes of individual servers. 
While our goal was to provide a licensing model based on consumption and value 
rather than physical components and capacity, we strived to make the new model 
as non-disruptive as possible.
These changes generated much debate in the blogosphere, in conversations with 
our partners and customers, and across VMware communities. Some of the 
discussion had to do with confusion around the changes. We have been watching 
the blog commentaries carefully, and we have been listening to the partner and 
customer conversations very intently. A great deal of feedback was provided 
that examined the impact of the new licensing model on every possible use case 
and scenario, and equally importantly, reflected our partners’ and customers’ 
intense passion for VMware.
Our success depends on the active involvement of our channel partners. We are a 
company built on partner and customer goodwill, and we’ve taken your feedback 
in earnest. Our primary objective is to do right by our customers, so we are 
announcing three changes to the vSphere 5 licensing model that address the most 
recurring areas of your feedback.
•   We’ve increased vRAM entitlements for all vSphere editions, including the 
doubling of the entitlements for vSphere Enterprise and Enterprise Plus. This 
change addresses concerns about future-looking business cases that were based 
on future hardware capabilities and the previous vSphere licensing model.  
Below is a comparison of the previously announced and the new vSphere 5 vRAM 
enti
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OTish: citrix receiver on Windows XP Embedded

[kz20fl]

Anyone had any luck getting the citrix receiver to work on an XP embedded thin 
client? Receiver installs ok but the online plugin fails to then install with a 
"fatal error". I've ruled out disk space as an issue, and nothing useful 
appears in the event logs. These are HP thin clients. I'm gonna post it over on 
the citrix forums but the turnaround over there is pretty slow, so figured I'd 
give it a bash out here as well.

Cheers,



JRR

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RE: MS Windows Intune

[Tim Vander Kooi]

MDT, MDT, MDT. Used alone or  with WDS and/or SCCM you can be rid of Vista and 
on Win7 in no time.
Tim

From: Phil Garven [mailto:phil.gar...@gfi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS Windows Intune


lol - that's cool, I alway like to hear open and honest comparisons.



I'm not completely sold on SA when it comes to OS's - my experience has been 
that most places just wait for a hardware refresh to switch over. The only time 
I've done a whole site OS upgrade was when we went from windows 3.1 to NT 4.



Now, if you're unfortunate enough to have a load of Vista machines... :)


Phil Garven - phil.gar...@gfi.com
Technical Trainer - GFI Software- www.gfi.com
Web & Mail Security, Archiving & Fax, Networking & Security
Tel.: 866-389-5597 #6048#

From: Michael B. Smith [mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS Windows Intune
Oops. Sorry. Didn't notice your e-mail address to start with. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS Windows Intune

Uh, it's a fabulous deal. Buy Windows Home Basic and upgrade to Windows 
Enterprise?

Not to mention it includes DaRT (or whatever they are calling it these days), 
plus all the other SA benefits?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Phil Garven 
[mailto:phil.gar...@gfi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 3:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS Windows Intune


Oooo - I didn't notice that - not a bad deal if you want to upgrade your 
existing machines.


Regards,

Phil Garven - phil.gar...@gfi.com
Technical Trainer - GFI Software- www.gfi.com
Web & Mail Security, Archiving & Fax, Networking & Security
Tel.: 866-389-5597 #6048#




From: Mike Hoffman [m...@drumbrae.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 3:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS Windows Intune
You did spot that it includes the windows client licenses? So you can upgrade 
the machines to Win 7 Enterprise and then add another tool if necessary 
depending on the level of control needed.

Mike

From: Phil Garven 
[mailto:phil.gar...@gfi.com]
Sent: 03 August 2011 20:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS Windows Intune

I often look at the products mentioned on this list, it's a great way to find 
new things and since they come from the list they've usually been tried an 
tested.

This one is spooky - I'm currently working on training for LanGuard (have been 
for the last few weeks now) and I'm looking at InTune thinking.. hmmm.. that 
all looks very familiar

I like cloud based services, don't have to worry about backups, redundancy, 
updates etc. In a past SysAdmin life I used to be wary of anything like that 
because I was worried about job errosion, if all the systems I manage are then 
managed by another company then my job goes, but these days with so many 
systems the average SysAdmin has to support, a few going to the cloud is a nice 
relief (as long as you still have enough control)

InTune is $11 per device per month for up to 249 licenses which does seem a bit 
high compared to the competition.

Kaseya and Zenith Infotech are the ones I come across quite often (other than 
LanGuard of course) and SpiceWorks does some of the basics free

Regards,

Phil Garven - phil.gar...@gfi.com
Technical Trainer - GFI Software- www.gfi.com
Web & Mail Security, Archiving & Fax, Networking & Security
Tel.: 866-389-5597 #6048#

From: James Rankin [kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MS Windows Intune
The price point would have been great if it was going to be paid for by the 
businesses I am managing (in the loosest possible sense). I agree, it's very 
reasonable. However, the business owners are the type who don't want any 
ongoing expense. Therefore I would have had to pay it out of my own pocket, and 
would have been doing it for my own convenience. At the time I originally 
looked (about this time last year), my money was pretty tight and I couldn't 
afford to pay for it, it would have been for about forty or fifty endpoints.

I could probably afford it now, but I have other expenses more pressing :-)
On 3 August 2011 17:11, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
I consider the cost extremely reasonable; especially for the benefits provided.

What was your issue with the price point? I mean,

RE: SMB firewall (was RE: VLAN N00b)

[David Lum]

As my original post said, I am open to suggestions as I am just digging into 
this stuff for the first time (I had to look up layer2 and layer 3 again today 
to refresh my memory based on John's "IP Helper" comment - I have heard of it 
before...).

So ideally in your opinion the firewall would effectively give each VLAN (each 
VLAN defined by 802.1Q tags) it's own DHCP scope and thus their own IP 
settings, correct?

In this case I use the PowerConnect to assign tags on various ports and the 
firewall will figure out which VLAN they need to go to, right?

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SMB firewall (was RE: VLAN N00b)

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:53 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> Use the Dell switch, have the firewall be promiscuous and VLAN off the
> various ports so they can only see the firewall as well as get DHCP from it.

  I would tend to prefer to keep IP traffic completely separated --
different DHCP scopes, different subnets, etc.  If the firewall
supports 802.1Q VLAN tags, you should be able to create a virtual
interface on the firewall for each VLAN, and treat them like different
physical ports.  In such a situation you can actually end up with a
firewall with only one physical network connection, using VLANs for
everything; this is sometimes called "router on a stick".

  Not saying what you propose wouldn't work, I just don't like the
whole layer two selective forwarding thing (that's what I have the
firewall for).  Maybe I'm just old fashioned.

-- Ben

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Re: find duplicate files

[Cameron]

This app failed on 2? I actually never thought about it...as I was just
checking my home directory shares (approx 1tb)

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Crawford, Scott wrote:

>  How big of a volume have you tried it on?  Mine choked on about 2tb.  I
> can’t really imagine how it would handle 20.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:56 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: find duplicate files
>
> ** **
>
> www.easyduplicatefinder.com Works pretty well!
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Bill Humphries 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Any suggestions for a tool that I could use to search for duplicate files
> on a 20tb Xsan?  Although it primarily has Macs attached to it, I do have
> one windows machine.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill
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Re: SMB firewall (was RE: VLAN N00b)

[Kurt Buff]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 13:20, Ben Scott  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:53 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> > Use the Dell switch, have the firewall be promiscuous and VLAN off the
> > various ports so they can only see the firewall as well as get DHCP from it.
>
>  I would tend to prefer to keep IP traffic completely separated --
> different DHCP scopes, different subnets, etc.  If the firewall
> supports 802.1Q VLAN tags, you should be able to create a virtual
> interface on the firewall for each VLAN, and treat them like different
> physical ports.  In such a situation you can actually end up with a
> firewall with only one physical network connection, using VLANs for
> everything; this is sometimes called "router on a stick".
>
>  Not saying what you propose wouldn't work, I just don't like the
> whole layer two selective forwarding thing (that's what I have the
> firewall for).  Maybe I'm just old fashioned.
>
> -- Ben

+1

There's a place for old-fashioned in this arena.

Kurt

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Re: SMB firewall (was RE: VLAN N00b)

[Andrew S. Baker]

Also look at the Fortigate 50 series...

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On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:53 PM, David Lum  wrote:

> Nice, looks like the SSG5 fits the bill. Looks like Watchguard XTM2 lives
> in the same space.
>
> ** **
>
> Now that I think about it, in this same office are 4 different companies
> (most sized 2 employees) each with a Linksys doing much the same thing I’m
> trying to do with this WLAN. I’d bet the right firewall would allow me to
> eliminate all those Linksys devices right?
>
> ** **
>
> Use the Dell switch, have the firewall be promiscuous and VLAN off the
> various ports so they can only see the firewall as well as get DHCP from it.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Amirite?
>
> ** **
>
> Dave
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:41 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: VLAN N00b
>
> ** **
>
> FWIW I think the Juniper SSG5's are perfect for most needs and they're dirt
> cheap too. 
>
> ** **
>
> They should do what you need if you do go down that route.
>
> ** **
>
> If not, assuming you can VLAN or zone off ports on the Sonicwall or do
> something to keep the Guest and LAN traffic separate, as other have said
> either chop in the AP or buy a dirt cheap router and connect it to the guest
> VLAN just to use its DHCP server functionality.
> --
>
> *From:* David Lum [david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* 03 August 2011 6:58 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: VLAN N00b
>
> Their SonicWALL is old (SOHO3!) and I have - previous to this latest work -
> talked them into upgrading but I just haven’t done it (it’s one of my
> clients I can go 3 months w/out being onsite, and it just slipped through
> the cracks). This looks like a good time to revisit and add a new
> requirement to the firewall capabilities…
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:36 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: VLAN N00b
>
>  
>
> Send it back and get one that does, or put something in the ‘new’ network
> that will do the dhcp for you. Will the Sonic do dhcp on just one interface
> perhaps?  I really think this direction is the cleanest and easiest to do.
> 
>
>  
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:21 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: VLAN N00b
>
>  
>
> I thought of that, but this AP doesn’t have the capability to be a DHCP
> server.
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:57 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: VLAN N00b
>
>  
>
> Are only non-company assets going to use this AP? If yes read on, otherwise
> hit delete.
>
>  
>
> Since it is a small environment with only one AP, set the AP up as it’s own
> DHCP server….put it on it’s own physical and logical network and drop
> another port in the Sonic Firewall and just route them straight out to the
> internets….
>
> * *
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:27 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* VLAN N00b
>
>  
>
> So…I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into learning a
> little VLANing.
>
>  
>
> Environment:
>
> DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)
>
> Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
> SonicWall Firewall
> Dell PowerConnect 3448
>
> 17 Domain PC’s
>
> HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC’s using this to get to the Internet.
> 
>
>  
>
> Desired result for WLAN clients: 
>
> · Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any domain
> systems.  
>
> · DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)
>
>  
>
> I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get to the
> firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get assigned an IP
> address. I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP’s but then I lose
> control of IP’s (reservations, etc) from the SBS system.
>
>  
>
> It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on the 2
> nd DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and the Sonicwall.
>
>  
>
> Here’s a document I found helpful:
>
> http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/howto_config_private_vlans.pdf
> 
>
>  
>
> From that, the SBS server and all domain PC’s would be in Community 10
>
> The AP would be in Community 11
> The firewall and 2nd DC (now doing DHCP) would be promiscuous. Is that too
> big of a risk? The HP110 can do RADIUS and I did install that capability on
> the 2nd DC but I don’t really know 

Re: External DNS & new generic top-level domains

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:04 PM, m b  wrote:
> Playing whack-a-mole at $500,000/shot is not sustainable, obviously.

  Bingo.

  Corporate gTLDs are a pure marketing scheme by ICANN and domain
registrars, aimed at people who don't grok your above statement.
They're hoping pointy haired bosses everywhere will cough up kilobucks
just so they can have yet another domain name.  There's no technical
advantage, and even lusers expect a dot somewhere currently, so even
that doesn't play out.  Sadly, ICANN & co will still likely get rich
off this.

  Full disclosure: I find corporate gTLDs to be one of the stupidest
ideas to come along in quite some time.

-- Ben

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RE: MS Windows Intune

[Mike Hoffman]

You did spot that it includes the windows client licenses? So you can upgrade 
the machines to Win 7 Enterprise and then add another tool if necessary 
depending on the level of control needed.

Mike

From: Phil Garven [mailto:phil.gar...@gfi.com]
Sent: 03 August 2011 20:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS Windows Intune

I often look at the products mentioned on this list, it's a great way to find 
new things and since they come from the list they've usually been tried an 
tested.

This one is spooky - I'm currently working on training for LanGuard (have been 
for the last few weeks now) and I'm looking at InTune thinking.. hmmm.. that 
all looks very familiar

I like cloud based services, don't have to worry about backups, redundancy, 
updates etc. In a past SysAdmin life I used to be wary of anything like that 
because I was worried about job errosion, if all the systems I manage are then 
managed by another company then my job goes, but these days with so many 
systems the average SysAdmin has to support, a few going to the cloud is a nice 
relief (as long as you still have enough control)

InTune is $11 per device per month for up to 249 licenses which does seem a bit 
high compared to the competition.

Kaseya and Zenith Infotech are the ones I come across quite often (other than 
LanGuard of course) and SpiceWorks does some of the basics free

Regards,

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Tel.: 866-389-5597 #6048#

From: James Rankin [kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MS Windows Intune
The price point would have been great if it was going to be paid for by the 
businesses I am managing (in the loosest possible sense). I agree, it's very 
reasonable. However, the business owners are the type who don't want any 
ongoing expense. Therefore I would have had to pay it out of my own pocket, and 
would have been doing it for my own convenience. At the time I originally 
looked (about this time last year), my money was pretty tight and I couldn't 
afford to pay for it, it would have been for about forty or fifty endpoints.

I could probably afford it now, but I have other expenses more pressing :-)
On 3 August 2011 17:11, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
I consider the cost extremely reasonable; especially for the benefits provided.

What was your issue with the price point? I mean, what would you have 
considered reasonable?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:09 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MS Windows Intune

I was hoping it might be suitable for me to manage the various (very small) 
businesses that I look after on the side, but the cost put me off a bit. Still 
using a combination of TeamViewer and a selection of configured email alerts 
instead :-(
On 3 August 2011 17:05, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
I've got a small client on the beta. It seems very interesting. None of my 
larger clients (that is, >50 seats) were willing to give up infrastructure they 
already have in place to perform the required functions. Perhaps at h/w refresh 
time...

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Martin Blackstone 
[mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MS Windows Intune

Just pinging the list to see if anyone is using this or thinking about it.
We have been playing with the 2.0 beta and it has a very compelling feature set.
Seems like it could shape up to be a great cloud app.

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Re: SMB firewall (was RE: VLAN N00b)

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:53 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> Use the Dell switch, have the firewall be promiscuous and VLAN off the
> various ports so they can only see the firewall as well as get DHCP from it.

  I would tend to prefer to keep IP traffic completely separated --
different DHCP scopes, different subnets, etc.  If the firewall
supports 802.1Q VLAN tags, you should be able to create a virtual
interface on the firewall for each VLAN, and treat them like different
physical ports.  In such a situation you can actually end up with a
firewall with only one physical network connection, using VLANs for
everything; this is sometimes called "router on a stick".

  Not saying what you propose wouldn't work, I just don't like the
whole layer two selective forwarding thing (that's what I have the
firewall for).  Maybe I'm just old fashioned.

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Re: OT: Ouch - You Stepped on MY Toes!!

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Roger Wright  wrote:
> http://dilbert.com/ for 08/03/2011

  Hey!  I resemble that remark!

   Now get off my lawn! 

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Re: SMB firewall (was RE: VLAN N00b)

[Kurt Buff]

Don't know, but here's what I've got running.

We're using Cisco 1240AG WAPs, but I think the situation is analagous.

I made sure that our firewall's internal interface had two VLANs that didn't
talk with each other, but that each had access to the Internet - each VLAN
interface is a different numbered subnet, and the firewall has an IP address
for that subnet on it to be used as the default gateway by machines on the
subnet. On the guest VLAN I stuck a tiny freebsd box running a dhcp server,
and it hands out IP addresses, the DG and points the clients to 8.8.8.8 for
DNS.

I also instantiated the guest VLAN on the switch attached to the firewall,
and the HP PoE switch to which the WAPs are connected. Both switches are L2
only, so the firewall is acting as the L3 node to which each talks. The
switch attached to the firewall is tagged to the guest VLAN only on the port
connected to the firewall and the port that connects it to the PoE switch.

I then set up two separate SSIDs on separate VLANs on the WAPs. The HP PoE
switches are tagged (to use HP parlance) to both VLANs for each port to
which a WAP is connected, and to the port that connects it to the next
switch.

ASCII diagram looks like this:


|--||-| |--| |-|
|  |  A | |  B  | HP   |  C  | |
|  fw  || HP  |-| PoE  |-| WAP |
|  || | |  | | |
|--||-| |--| |-|
   |
   | D
   |
 |---|
 |   |
 |L3 |
 |   |
 |---|

Link A: Tagged in VLAN 1 (Production) and VLAN 2 (Guest)
Link B: Tagged in VLAN 1 and VLAN 2
Link C: Tagged in VLAN 1 and VLAN 2
Link D: Tagged in VLAN 1 only

The L3 switch is for the Production LAN only
The WAP has two SSIDs - Prod and Guest, which are assigned to VLANs 1 and 2
respectively. We actually have 15 WAPs spread through the building,
connected to 3 PoE switches, but just two VLANs for them

The HP switch connected to links A/B/C serves many more VLANs than just the
guest network - there's a whole set of Engineering and vendor/partner VLANs
to which the firewall controls access, but I've left them off for
simplicity.

The L3 switch is an HP 3400cl-48 (with 10 HP 2510-48 switches hanging from
it), the HP switch is a 2524, the HP PoE switch is a 2800-PWR and the WAP is
a Cisco 1240AG. Someday I hope to be able to consolidate the HP equipment
into two larger switches (our space is divided in two, and I run Cat5 cables
back to individual HP 2510-48s in the space away from the server room.)

HTH,

Kurt

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:53, David Lum  wrote:

> Nice, looks like the SSG5 fits the bill. Looks like Watchguard XTM2 lives
> in the same space.
>
> ** **
>
> Now that I think about it, in this same office are 4 different companies
> (most sized 2 employees) each with a Linksys doing much the same thing I’m
> trying to do with this WLAN. I’d bet the right firewall would allow me to
> eliminate all those Linksys devices right?
>
> ** **
>
> Use the Dell switch, have the firewall be promiscuous and VLAN off the
> various ports so they can only see the firewall as well as get DHCP from it.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Amirite?
>
> ** **
>
> Dave
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:41 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: VLAN N00b
>
> ** **
>
> FWIW I think the Juniper SSG5's are perfect for most needs and they're dirt
> cheap too. 
>
> ** **
>
> They should do what you need if you do go down that route.
>
> ** **
>
> If not, assuming you can VLAN or zone off ports on the Sonicwall or do
> something to keep the Guest and LAN traffic separate, as other have said
> either chop in the AP or buy a dirt cheap router and connect it to the guest
> VLAN just to use its DHCP server functionality.
> --
>
> *From:* David Lum [david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* 03 August 2011 6:58 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: VLAN N00b
>
> Their SonicWALL is old (SOHO3!) and I have - previous to this latest work -
> talked them into upgrading but I just haven’t done it (it’s one of my
> clients I can go 3 months w/out being onsite, and it just slipped through
> the cracks). This looks like a good time to revisit and add a new
> requirement to the firewall capabilities…
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:36 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: VLAN N00b
>
>  
>
> Send it back and get one that does, or put something in the ‘new’ network
> that will do the dhcp for you. Will the Sonic do dhcp on just one interface
> perhaps?  I really think this direction is the cleanest and easiest to do.
> 
>
>  
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wedne

RE: SMB firewall (was RE: VLAN N00b)

[Paul Hutchings]

If you're looking at Watchguard just check that the management is "on-device".  
It was ages back and I might have got the wrong end of the stick but they 
seemed to depend on an admin console that had to be installed vs. a web gui, 
and things like URL filtering were dealt with via a database/service installed 
on a PC which the firewall talked to - it all seemed a bit "boxy".

As for the SSG5's, for a small box they have 8 (I think, not near it and we've 
never used them all) interfaces, pretty sure they're all independent.

So if you're doing a real simple outbound only setup you'd just setup zones for 
Customer1, Customer2 etc. and assign each zone an interface, enable a DHCP 
server on that interface if required, then create rules from "Customer 1 to 
Untrust" with NAT enabled.

Pretty sure they'll happily deal with VLAN's but I've not used them in 
conjunction with the SSG's.

All the documentation is on the Juniper website but as with most firewall 
vendors it's like 2000 pages so can be a bit heavy going.

Paul


From: David Lum [david@nwea.org]
Sent: 03 August 2011 8:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SMB firewall (was RE: VLAN N00b)

Nice, looks like the SSG5 fits the bill. Looks like Watchguard XTM2 lives in 
the same space.

Now that I think about it, in this same office are 4 different companies (most 
sized 2 employees) each with a Linksys doing much the same thing I’m trying to 
do with this WLAN. I’d bet the right firewall would allow me to eliminate all 
those Linksys devices right?

Use the Dell switch, have the firewall be promiscuous and VLAN off the various 
ports so they can only see the firewall as well as get DHCP from it.

Amirite?

Dave

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

FWIW I think the Juniper SSG5's are perfect for most needs and they're dirt 
cheap too.

They should do what you need if you do go down that route.

If not, assuming you can VLAN or zone off ports on the Sonicwall or do 
something to keep the Guest and LAN traffic separate, as other have said either 
chop in the AP or buy a dirt cheap router and connect it to the guest VLAN just 
to use its DHCP server functionality.

From: David Lum [david@nwea.org]
Sent: 03 August 2011 6:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b
Their SonicWALL is old (SOHO3!) and I have - previous to this latest work - 
talked them into upgrading but I just haven’t done it (it’s one of my clients I 
can go 3 months w/out being onsite, and it just slipped through the cracks). 
This looks like a good time to revisit and add a new requirement to the 
firewall capabilities…

Dave

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

Send it back and get one that does, or put something in the ‘new’ network that 
will do the dhcp for you. Will the Sonic do dhcp on just one interface perhaps? 
 I really think this direction is the cleanest and easiest to do.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

I thought of that, but this AP doesn’t have the capability to be a DHCP server.

Dave

From: Kennedy, Jim 
[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

Are only non-company assets going to use this AP? If yes read on, otherwise hit 
delete.

Since it is a small environment with only one AP, set the AP up as it’s own 
DHCP server….put it on it’s own physical and logical network and drop another 
port in the Sonic Firewall and just route them straight out to the internets….



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VLAN N00b

So…I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into learning a 
little VLANing.

Environment:
DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)
Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
SonicWall Firewall
Dell PowerConnect 3448
17 Domain PC’s
HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC’s using this to get to the Internet.

Desired result for WLAN clients:

• Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any domain 
systems.

• DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)

I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get to the 
firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get assigned an IP address. 
I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP’s but then I lose control of IP’s 
(reservations, etc) from the SBS system.

It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on the 2nd 
DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and th

RE: Acrobat X Reader via GPO/MSI?

[Joseph L. Casale]

No issues, you can create an msi with the tuner that allows you to specify the 
default app that opens pdf's in that scenario.

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Acrobat X Reader via GPO/MSI?

We currently deploy Reader 9.x via GPO/MSI.  I hadn't realised that Adobe have 
released an updated customization wizard for Reader X, so now there's no reason 
that I can see not to deploy it, unless you good folks have any horror stories 
to share...

The biggest potential banana skin that I can see if if it has any issues being 
installed on a system that has an earlier (could be 9.x, 8.x or 7.x) version of 
full Acrobat installed, other than that we're pretty standard in terms of PC 
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RE: MS Windows Intune

[Phil Garven]

Oooo - I didn't notice that - not a bad deal if you want to upgrade your 
existing machines.



Regards,

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Technical Trainer - GFI Software- www.gfi.com
Web & Mail Security, Archiving & Fax, Networking & Security
Tel.: 866-389-5597 #6048#




From: Mike Hoffman [m...@drumbrae.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 3:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS Windows Intune

You did spot that it includes the windows client licenses? So you can upgrade 
the machines to Win 7 Enterprise and then add another tool if necessary 
depending on the level of control needed.

Mike

From: Phil Garven [mailto:phil.gar...@gfi.com]
Sent: 03 August 2011 20:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS Windows Intune

I often look at the products mentioned on this list, it's a great way to find 
new things and since they come from the list they've usually been tried an 
tested.

This one is spooky - I'm currently working on training for LanGuard (have been 
for the last few weeks now) and I'm looking at InTune thinking.. hmmm.. that 
all looks very familiar

I like cloud based services, don't have to worry about backups, redundancy, 
updates etc. In a past SysAdmin life I used to be wary of anything like that 
because I was worried about job errosion, if all the systems I manage are then 
managed by another company then my job goes, but these days with so many 
systems the average SysAdmin has to support, a few going to the cloud is a nice 
relief (as long as you still have enough control)

InTune is $11 per device per month for up to 249 licenses which does seem a bit 
high compared to the competition.

Kaseya and Zenith Infotech are the ones I come across quite often (other than 
LanGuard of course) and SpiceWorks does some of the basics free

Regards,

Phil Garven – phil.gar...@gfi.com
Technical Trainer - GFI Software- www.gfi.com
Web & Mail Security, Archiving & Fax, Networking & Security
Tel.: 866-389-5597 #6048#

From: James Rankin [kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MS Windows Intune
The price point would have been great if it was going to be paid for by the 
businesses I am managing (in the loosest possible sense). I agree, it's very 
reasonable. However, the business owners are the type who don't want any 
ongoing expense. Therefore I would have had to pay it out of my own pocket, and 
would have been doing it for my own convenience. At the time I originally 
looked (about this time last year), my money was pretty tight and I couldn't 
afford to pay for it, it would have been for about forty or fifty endpoints.

I could probably afford it now, but I have other expenses more pressing :-)
On 3 August 2011 17:11, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
I consider the cost extremely reasonable; especially for the benefits provided.

What was your issue with the price point? I mean, what would you have 
considered reasonable?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:09 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MS Windows Intune

I was hoping it might be suitable for me to manage the various (very small) 
businesses that I look after on the side, but the cost put me off a bit. Still 
using a combination of TeamViewer and a selection of configured email alerts 
instead :-(
On 3 August 2011 17:05, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
I’ve got a small client on the beta. It seems very interesting. None of my 
larger clients (that is, >50 seats) were willing to give up infrastructure they 
already have in place to perform the required functions. Perhaps at h/w refresh 
time…

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Martin Blackstone 
[mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MS Windows Intune

Just pinging the list to see if anyone is using this or thinking about it.
We have been playing with the 2.0 beta and it has a very compelling feature set.
Seems like it could shape up to be a great cloud app.

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SMB firewall (was RE: VLAN N00b)

[David Lum]

Nice, looks like the SSG5 fits the bill. Looks like Watchguard XTM2 lives in 
the same space.

Now that I think about it, in this same office are 4 different companies (most 
sized 2 employees) each with a Linksys doing much the same thing I'm trying to 
do with this WLAN. I'd bet the right firewall would allow me to eliminate all 
those Linksys devices right?

Use the Dell switch, have the firewall be promiscuous and VLAN off the various 
ports so they can only see the firewall as well as get DHCP from it.

Amirite?

Dave

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

FWIW I think the Juniper SSG5's are perfect for most needs and they're dirt 
cheap too.

They should do what you need if you do go down that route.

If not, assuming you can VLAN or zone off ports on the Sonicwall or do 
something to keep the Guest and LAN traffic separate, as other have said either 
chop in the AP or buy a dirt cheap router and connect it to the guest VLAN just 
to use its DHCP server functionality.

From: David Lum [david@nwea.org]
Sent: 03 August 2011 6:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b
Their SonicWALL is old (SOHO3!) and I have - previous to this latest work - 
talked them into upgrading but I just haven't done it (it's one of my clients I 
can go 3 months w/out being onsite, and it just slipped through the cracks). 
This looks like a good time to revisit and add a new requirement to the 
firewall capabilities...

Dave

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

Send it back and get one that does, or put something in the 'new' network that 
will do the dhcp for you. Will the Sonic do dhcp on just one interface perhaps? 
 I really think this direction is the cleanest and easiest to do.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

I thought of that, but this AP doesn't have the capability to be a DHCP server.

Dave

From: Kennedy, Jim 
[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

Are only non-company assets going to use this AP? If yes read on, otherwise hit 
delete.

Since it is a small environment with only one AP, set the AP up as it's own 
DHCP serverput it on it's own physical and logical network and drop another 
port in the Sonic Firewall and just route them straight out to the internets



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VLAN N00b

So...I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into learning a 
little VLANing.

Environment:
DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)
Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
SonicWall Firewall
Dell PowerConnect 3448
17 Domain PC's
HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC's using this to get to the Internet.

Desired result for WLAN clients:

* Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any domain 
systems.

* DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)

I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get to the 
firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get assigned an IP address. 
I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP's but then I lose control of IP's 
(reservations, etc) from the SBS system.

It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on the 2nd 
DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and the Sonicwall.

Here's a document I found helpful:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/howto_config_private_vlans.pdf

>From that, the SBS server and all domain PC's would be in Community 10
The AP would be in Community 11
The firewall and 2nd DC (now doing DHCP) would be promiscuous. Is that too big 
of a risk? The HP110 can do RADIUS and I did install that capability on the 2nd 
DC but I don't really know what I'm doing here.

This would get me close to my desired result. Can RADIUS be used to 
conditionally hand out IP addresses? What would be nice is the ability to have 
it so VLAN1 (Community 10 in the diagram) gets some IP settings, VLAN2 
(Community 11) gets others - namely a different DNS server.

All thoughts and comments welcome.
David Lum
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RE: MS Windows Intune

[Phil Garven]

I often look at the products mentioned on this list, it's a great way to find 
new things and since they come from the list they've usually been tried an 
tested.

This one is spooky - I'm currently working on training for LanGuard (have been 
for the last few weeks now) and I'm looking at InTune thinking.. hmmm.. that 
all looks very familiar

I like cloud based services, don't have to worry about backups, redundancy, 
updates etc. In a past SysAdmin life I used to be wary of anything like that 
because I was worried about job errosion, if all the systems I manage are then 
managed by another company then my job goes, but these days with so many 
systems the average SysAdmin has to support, a few going to the cloud is a nice 
relief (as long as you still have enough control)

InTune is $11 per device per month for up to 249 licenses which does seem a bit 
high compared to the competition.

Kaseya and Zenith Infotech are the ones I come across quite often (other than 
LanGuard of course) and SpiceWorks does some of the basics free

Regards,

Phil Garven – phil.gar...@gfi.com
Technical Trainer - GFI Software- www.gfi.com
Web & Mail Security, Archiving & Fax, Networking & Security
Tel.: 866-389-5597 #6048#

From: James Rankin [kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MS Windows Intune

The price point would have been great if it was going to be paid for by the 
businesses I am managing (in the loosest possible sense). I agree, it's very 
reasonable. However, the business owners are the type who don't want any 
ongoing expense. Therefore I would have had to pay it out of my own pocket, and 
would have been doing it for my own convenience. At the time I originally 
looked (about this time last year), my money was pretty tight and I couldn't 
afford to pay for it, it would have been for about forty or fifty endpoints.

I could probably afford it now, but I have other expenses more pressing :-)

On 3 August 2011 17:11, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
I consider the cost extremely reasonable; especially for the benefits provided.

What was your issue with the price point? I mean, what would you have 
considered reasonable?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:09 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MS Windows Intune

I was hoping it might be suitable for me to manage the various (very small) 
businesses that I look after on the side, but the cost put me off a bit. Still 
using a combination of TeamViewer and a selection of configured email alerts 
instead :-(
On 3 August 2011 17:05, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
I’ve got a small client on the beta. It seems very interesting. None of my 
larger clients (that is, >50 seats) were willing to give up infrastructure they 
already have in place to perform the required functions. Perhaps at h/w refresh 
time…

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Martin Blackstone 
[mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MS Windows Intune

Just pinging the list to see if anyone is using this or thinking about it.
We have been playing with the 2.0 beta and it has a very compelling feature set.
Seems like it could shape up to be a great cloud app.

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Re: Open source monitor with Agent

[kz20fl]

Servers Alive is cheap and cheerful, don't know how good it is thru firewalls

Sent from my POS BlackBerry  wireless device, which may wipe itself at any 
moment

-Original Message-
From: 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:12:53 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Open source monitor with 
Agent

Yep.. but.. and I'm being picky here...
What if I don't want to use Nagios? 
By the way, this IS to monitor Windows boxes.

Thx

-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Open source monitor with Agent

It's called a passive check, Nagios will check the freshness of the update
such that if it hasn't received an update in a specified amount of time it
faults and dispatches an alert.

This allows you to run code locally and send the results formatted which
provides the advantage that you can use native methods to do this without
installing something. I am not a fan of the Nagios clients for windows so I
do this with either snmp or wmi for the active checks and all sorts of other
scripts for the passive locally generated checks.

Now you can use an addon on the Nagios side that receives the update via
HTTP post, or you can write to the Nagios cmd file via remote ssh command
from a limited privileged account etc...

It's very doable.
jlc

-Original Message-
From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Open source monitor with Agent

Morning folks!
Hope everyone is well.

I am familiar with Nagios (somewhat) and how it works but I was
wondering
Is there anything like Nagios that allows you to put an agent on a machine
and have the machine call the server to update?
The downside to Nagios is having to deal with firewall issues, so if there
was something that went outbound, it would be perfect.
I have looked & used SpiceWorks but it just can't do what Nagios does, and
not feasible to run on each workstation by itself.

Thanks for your input.

Dave




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RE: Open source monitor with Agent

[Groups]

Yep.. but.. and I'm being picky here...
What if I don't want to use Nagios? 
By the way, this IS to monitor Windows boxes.

Thx

-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Open source monitor with Agent

It's called a passive check, Nagios will check the freshness of the update
such that if it hasn't received an update in a specified amount of time it
faults and dispatches an alert.

This allows you to run code locally and send the results formatted which
provides the advantage that you can use native methods to do this without
installing something. I am not a fan of the Nagios clients for windows so I
do this with either snmp or wmi for the active checks and all sorts of other
scripts for the passive locally generated checks.

Now you can use an addon on the Nagios side that receives the update via
HTTP post, or you can write to the Nagios cmd file via remote ssh command
from a limited privileged account etc...

It's very doable.
jlc

-Original Message-
From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Open source monitor with Agent

Morning folks!
Hope everyone is well.

I am familiar with Nagios (somewhat) and how it works but I was
wondering
Is there anything like Nagios that allows you to put an agent on a machine
and have the machine call the server to update?
The downside to Nagios is having to deal with firewall issues, so if there
was something that went outbound, it would be perfect.
I have looked & used SpiceWorks but it just can't do what Nagios does, and
not feasible to run on each workstation by itself.

Thanks for your input.

Dave




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RE: VLAN N00b

[Sean Rector]

Adtran routers will do this, too.  I’m in the midst of creating my “guest” 
wireless VLAN.  The nice thing about the HP M110 access points is that you can 
create two communities – on separate VLANs.  One for your users and one for 
your guests.

 

Sean Rector, MCSE

 

From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VLAN N00b

 

+1

 

I have zero experience with Sonicwall, but being a Juniper user for years, this 
is something you can accomodate should you have a spare interface on your 
Juniper FW. You assign it a zone to it, if you like, or simply make in an 
"untrusted" port and route out to and from it, assign DHCP and policies.

 

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Paul Hutchings  
wrote:

Does the Sonicwall have the concept of “Zones” and can it act as a DHCP server 
with different scopes per interface?

 

Using a Juniper as an example, you configure an interface as a Zone (called, 
say, “Guest”) and assign it an interface and run a DHCP server on that 
interface.

 

Paul

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: 03 August 2011 15:27


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VLAN N00b

 

So…I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into learning a 
little VLANing.

 

Environment:

DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)

Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
SonicWall Firewall
Dell PowerConnect 3448

17 Domain PC’s

HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC’s using this to get to the Internet.

 

Desired result for WLAN clients: 

· Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any domain 
systems.  

· DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)

 

I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get to the 
firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get assigned an IP address. 
I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP’s but then I lose control of IP’s 
(reservations, etc) from the SBS system.

 

It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on the 2nd 
DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and the Sonicwall.

 

Here’s a document I found helpful:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/howto_config_private_vlans.pdf

 

From that, the SBS server and all domain PC’s would be in Community 10

The AP would be in Community 11

The firewall and 2nd DC (now doing DHCP) would be promiscuous. Is that too big 
of a risk? The HP110 can do RADIUS and I did install that capability on the 2nd 
DC but I don’t really know what I’m doing here.

 

This would get me close to my desired result. Can RADIUS be used to 
conditionally hand out IP addresses? What would be nice is the ability to have 
it so VLAN1 (Community 10 in the diagram) gets some IP settings, VLAN2 
(Community 11) gets others – namely a different DNS server.

 

All thoughts and comments welcome.

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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RE: VLAN N00b

[Paul Hutchings]

FWIW I think the Juniper SSG5's are perfect for most needs and they're dirt 
cheap too.

They should do what you need if you do go down that route.

If not, assuming you can VLAN or zone off ports on the Sonicwall or do 
something to keep the Guest and LAN traffic separate, as other have said either 
chop in the AP or buy a dirt cheap router and connect it to the guest VLAN just 
to use its DHCP server functionality.

From: David Lum [david@nwea.org]
Sent: 03 August 2011 6:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

Their SonicWALL is old (SOHO3!) and I have - previous to this latest work - 
talked them into upgrading but I just haven’t done it (it’s one of my clients I 
can go 3 months w/out being onsite, and it just slipped through the cracks). 
This looks like a good time to revisit and add a new requirement to the 
firewall capabilities…

Dave

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

Send it back and get one that does, or put something in the ‘new’ network that 
will do the dhcp for you. Will the Sonic do dhcp on just one interface perhaps? 
 I really think this direction is the cleanest and easiest to do.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

I thought of that, but this AP doesn’t have the capability to be a DHCP server.

Dave

From: Kennedy, Jim 
[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

Are only non-company assets going to use this AP? If yes read on, otherwise hit 
delete.

Since it is a small environment with only one AP, set the AP up as it’s own 
DHCP server….put it on it’s own physical and logical network and drop another 
port in the Sonic Firewall and just route them straight out to the internets….



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VLAN N00b

So…I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into learning a 
little VLANing.

Environment:
DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)
Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
SonicWall Firewall
Dell PowerConnect 3448
17 Domain PC’s
HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC’s using this to get to the Internet.

Desired result for WLAN clients:

· Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any domain 
systems.

· DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)

I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get to the 
firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get assigned an IP address. 
I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP’s but then I lose control of IP’s 
(reservations, etc) from the SBS system.

It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on the 2nd 
DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and the Sonicwall.

Here’s a document I found helpful:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/howto_config_private_vlans.pdf

>From that, the SBS server and all domain PC’s would be in Community 10
The AP would be in Community 11
The firewall and 2nd DC (now doing DHCP) would be promiscuous. Is that too big 
of a risk? The HP110 can do RADIUS and I did install that capability on the 2nd 
DC but I don’t really know what I’m doing here.

This would get me close to my desired result. Can RADIUS be used to 
conditionally hand out IP addresses? What would be nice is the ability to have 
it so VLAN1 (Community 10 in the diagram) gets some IP settings, VLAN2 
(Community 11) gets others – namely a different DNS server.

All thoughts and comments welcome.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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RE: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers

[Michael B. Smith]

Not with the alias built-in cmdlet.

You can with functions and splatting in v2.

Take a look at the PSBoundParameters and PSUnboundParameters arrays.

Regards,

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From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers

I wonder if you can alias that in powershell...
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 09:02, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Like they couldn't just make route.exe run the other commands...   Sigh.
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Heh. CCNA & CCNP – even if 10 years old (and not current) – they drum certain 
things into you. :-P

Actually (sssh) route.exe will be deprecated with Windows 8, and you’ll 
need to do this instead:

netsh int ipv4 show route
netsh int ipv6 show route

Regards,

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From: richardmccl...@aspca.org 
[mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:51 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers


And, yes, Domino configs were all dug through last week, first thing.  THEN we 
started working on routes.

Silly, but neither my boss nor I seemed to be familiar with the ROUTE PRINT 
(and above all, ROUTE DELETE) commands.
--
richard

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Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers







Agreed, checking the routing table is the place to start.


After that I would dig into the Domino config -- checking for
connection documents (and the Ports field thereupon), passthru
servers, that kind of stuff.  Although it is unlikely to be a Domino
issue given your other test results.

--Steve

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
> “route print”.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org 
> [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:31 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers
>
>
>
> Greetings!
>
> We have two pair of Domino servers in NYC, and a pair of them in Illiois
> (all Win2003 standard server).  All are Domino 7.0.2 (for which service has
> been discontinued - EOL for that product version).
>
> The way mail flows, all non-company mail addressed to those in Illinois is
> routed through one of the NYC Domino servers.  Consequently, if NYCDOMINO1
> cannot connect to ILNOTES1, then Illinois gets no outside mail.
>
> For the past few years, we have had a WAN connection consisting of two
> bonded T1s (total 3 Mbps).  We now have a new fiber WAN connection (through
> a different vendor) at (currently) 45 Mbps.  All would be well, except for
> this screwy(!) routing issue...
>
> ILNOTES1 (as well as other random IL machines) route to NYCDOMINIO1 through
> the new 45 Mbps pipe (using tracert in a command console).  NYCDOMINO1
> routes to randomly selected IL machines through the new pipe, EXCEPT to
> ILNOTES1.
>
> When we disconnect the old 3 Mbps router (at either the IL or the NYC end)
> and to a tracert ILNOTES1 (by any name or by IP address), it times out with
> the cheerful message "No route found to host".
>
> The Windows network settings (including things like "NETBios over tcp" and
> "Allow lmhosts import") are identical but for host IP address.
>
> I have checked all the files in [admin$]\system32\drivers\etc.  None of the
> files have any entries (other than the defaults one sees whenever installing
> Windows).
>
> Any ideas where to look next?  We would really prefer not continuing to pay
> one vendor for a slow pipe for this single one-way connection.  (We would
> also not like having something this screwy in our network!)
>
> Thanks for any suggestions...
> --
> Richard D. McClary
> Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group
> ASPCA®
> 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> Urbana, IL  61802
>
> richardmccl...@aspca.org
>
> P: 217-337-9761
> C: 217-417-1182
> F: 217-337-9761
> www.aspca.org
>

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Re: VLAN N00b

[Harry Singh]

+1

I have zero experience with Sonicwall, but being a Juniper user for years,
this is something you can accomodate should you have a spare interface on
your Juniper FW. You assign it a zone to it, if you like, or simply make in
an "untrusted" port and route out to and from it, assign DHCP and policies.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Paul Hutchings wrote:

>  Does the Sonicwall have the concept of “Zones” and can it act as a DHCP
> server with different scopes per interface?
>
> ** **
>
> Using a Juniper as an example, you configure an interface as a Zone
> (called, say, “Guest”) and assign it an interface and run a DHCP server on
> that interface.
>
> ** **
>
> Paul
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* 03 August 2011 15:27
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* VLAN N00b
>
>  ** **
>
> So…I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into learning a
> little VLANing.
>
> ** **
>
> Environment:
>
> DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)
>
> Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
> SonicWall Firewall
> Dell PowerConnect 3448
>
> 17 Domain PC’s
>
> HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC’s using this to get to the Internet.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Desired result for WLAN clients: 
>
> **· **Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any
> domain systems.  
>
> **· **DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get to the
> firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get assigned an IP
> address. I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP’s but then I lose
> control of IP’s (reservations, etc) from the SBS system.
>
> ** **
>
> It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on the 2
> nd DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and the Sonicwall.
>
> ** **
>
> Here’s a document I found helpful:
>
> http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/howto_config_private_vlans.pdf
> 
>
> ** **
>
> From that, the SBS server and all domain PC’s would be in Community 10
>
> The AP would be in Community 11
> The firewall and 2nd DC (now doing DHCP) would be promiscuous. Is that too
> big of a risk? The HP110 can do RADIUS and I did install that capability on
> the 2nd DC but I don’t really know what I’m doing here.
>
> ** **
>
> This would get me close to my desired result. Can RADIUS be used to
> conditionally hand out IP addresses? What would be nice is the ability to
> have it so VLAN1 (Community 10 in the diagram) gets some IP settings, VLAN2
> (Community 11) gets others – namely a different DNS server.
>
> ** **
>
> All thoughts and comments welcome.
>
> *David Lum*
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
>
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RE: VLAN N00b

[David Lum]

Their SonicWALL is old (SOHO3!) and I have - previous to this latest work - 
talked them into upgrading but I just haven't done it (it's one of my clients I 
can go 3 months w/out being onsite, and it just slipped through the cracks). 
This looks like a good time to revisit and add a new requirement to the 
firewall capabilities...

Dave

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

Send it back and get one that does, or put something in the 'new' network that 
will do the dhcp for you. Will the Sonic do dhcp on just one interface perhaps? 
 I really think this direction is the cleanest and easiest to do.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

I thought of that, but this AP doesn't have the capability to be a DHCP server.

Dave

From: Kennedy, Jim 
[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

Are only non-company assets going to use this AP? If yes read on, otherwise hit 
delete.

Since it is a small environment with only one AP, set the AP up as it's own 
DHCP serverput it on it's own physical and logical network and drop another 
port in the Sonic Firewall and just route them straight out to the internets



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VLAN N00b

So...I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into learning a 
little VLANing.

Environment:
DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)
Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
SonicWall Firewall
Dell PowerConnect 3448
17 Domain PC's
HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC's using this to get to the Internet.

Desired result for WLAN clients:

* Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any domain 
systems.

* DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)

I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get to the 
firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get assigned an IP address. 
I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP's but then I lose control of IP's 
(reservations, etc) from the SBS system.

It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on the 2nd 
DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and the Sonicwall.

Here's a document I found helpful:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/howto_config_private_vlans.pdf

>From that, the SBS server and all domain PC's would be in Community 10
The AP would be in Community 11
The firewall and 2nd DC (now doing DHCP) would be promiscuous. Is that too big 
of a risk? The HP110 can do RADIUS and I did install that capability on the 2nd 
DC but I don't really know what I'm doing here.

This would get me close to my desired result. Can RADIUS be used to 
conditionally hand out IP addresses? What would be nice is the ability to have 
it so VLAN1 (Community 10 in the diagram) gets some IP settings, VLAN2 
(Community 11) gets others - namely a different DNS server.

All thoughts and comments welcome.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers

[Kurt Buff]

I wonder if you can alias that in powershell...

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 09:02, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> Like they couldn't just make route.exe run the other commands...   Sigh.
>
> * *
>
> *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
> Technology for the SMB market…
>
> *
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
>
>>  Heh. CCNA & CCNP – even if 10 years old (and not current) – they drum
>> certain things into you. :-P
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Actually (sssh) route.exe will be deprecated with Windows 8, and
>> you’ll need to do this instead:
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> netsh int ipv4 show route
>>
>> netsh int ipv6 show route
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:51 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> And, yes, Domino configs were all dug through last week, first thing.
>>  THEN we started working on routes.
>>
>> Silly, but neither my boss nor I seemed to be familiar with the ROUTE
>> PRINT (and above all, ROUTE DELETE) commands.
>> --
>> richard
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> *Steve Kradel * 
>>
>> 08/03/2011 09:26 AM 
>>
>> Please respond to
>> "NT System Admin Issues" 
>>
>> To
>>
>> "NT System Admin Issues" 
>>  Press this button if the "To" is a fax number. Enter in the fax number
>> like 123-456-7890. 
>>
>> cc
>>
>> Subject
>>
>> Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Agreed, checking the routing table is the place to start.
>>
>>
>> After that I would dig into the Domino config -- checking for
>> connection documents (and the Ports field thereupon), passthru
>> servers, that kind of stuff.  Although it is unlikely to be a Domino
>> issue given your other test results.
>>
>> --Steve
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Michael B. Smith 
>> wrote:
>> > “route print”.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Michael B. Smith
>> >
>> > Consultant and Exchange MVP
>> >
>> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:31 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Greetings!
>> >
>> > We have two pair of Domino servers in NYC, and a pair of them in Illiois
>> > (all Win2003 standard server).  All are Domino 7.0.2 (for which service
>> has
>> > been discontinued - EOL for that product version).
>> >
>> > The way mail flows, all non-company mail addressed to those in Illinois
>> is
>> > routed through one of the NYC Domino servers.  Consequently, if
>> NYCDOMINO1
>> > cannot connect to ILNOTES1, then Illinois gets no outside mail.
>> >
>> > For the past few years, we have had a WAN connection consisting of two
>> > bonded T1s (total 3 Mbps).  We now have a new fiber WAN connection
>> (through
>> > a different vendor) at (currently) 45 Mbps.  All would be well, except
>> for
>> > this screwy(!) routing issue...
>> >
>> > ILNOTES1 (as well as other random IL machines) route to NYCDOMINIO1
>> through
>> > the new 45 Mbps pipe (using tracert in a command console).  NYCDOMINO1
>> > routes to randomly selected IL machines through the new pipe, EXCEPT to
>> > ILNOTES1.
>> >
>> > When we disconnect the old 3 Mbps router (at either the IL or the NYC
>> end)
>> > and to a tracert ILNOTES1 (by any name or by IP address), it times out
>> with
>> > the cheerful message "No route found to host".
>> >
>> > The Windows network settings (including things like "NETBios over tcp"
>> and
>> > "Allow lmhosts import") are identical but for host IP address.
>> >
>> > I have checked all the files in [admin$]\system32\drivers\etc.  None of
>> the
>> > files have any entries (other than the defaults one sees whenever
>> installing
>> > Windows).
>> >
>> > Any ideas where to look next?  We would really prefer not continuing to
>> pay
>> > one vendor for a slow pipe for this single one-way connection.  (We
>> would
>> > also not like having something this screwy in our network!)
>> >
>> > Thanks for any suggestions...
>> > --
>> > Richard D. McClary
>> > Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group
>> > ASPCA®
>> > 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
>> > Urbana, IL  61802
>> >
>> > richardmccl...@aspca.org
>> >
>> > P: 217-337-9761
>> > C: 217-417-1182
>> > F: 217-337-9761
>> > www.aspca.org
>> >
>>
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RE: Dell BMC

[John Hornbuckle]

Mostly I take from this list. It's nice to be able to actually contribute 
something every now and again.



John


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, thank you! A million times, THANK YOU! Dell's instructions didn't make a 
heck of a lot of sense and then the hassle I got from some folks here when I 
tried to get help didn't make things any less confusing!




-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Don't feel bad--I had a time figuring it out myself. I knew there was some way 
to remotely power on/off my Dell servers, but had no clue how to actually do it.

The workstation you're controlling from needs the BMB/IPMI tool installed on 
it. Once it has it, drop to a command prompt and go here:

C:\Program Files\Dell\SysMgt\bmc

(Or wherever you installed it.)

Then run:

ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power status

To query the server for its power status. You'll be prompted for your password, 
although I think you may be able to put that in the command line as well.

If the server is off, use this to turn it on:

ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power on

Now, I may be alone in this, but I always have to run each command twice.
The first time I run it, I get:

Authentication type NONE not supported
Activate Session command failed
Error: Unable to establish LAN session
Unable to get Chassis Power Status

Then I immediately run it a second time, and it works that time. Happens to me 
every single time.


John



-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one 
semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really 
confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of 
sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really want 
is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to the Dell 
documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't say as the 
documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests you should be 
able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it states something about 
the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage software 
to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't working, or 
I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I saw someplace 
about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and IPMI 
and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide links to 
tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good English, even. 
And did I mention they were free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus many 
of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the various 
tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is 
free too.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise. 

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI 
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software to 
download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to make 
heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the instructions, 
that the software is supposed to be installed on the workstation. The way Dell 
wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed to install the software on 
the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help, so I'm pretty sure you're 
supposed to install it on the "management workstation" to control the server. 
Gotta love folks who write instructions that look like they got translated into 
Spanish, then into Chinese, then to Greek then Russian bef

RE: Dell BMC

[John Aldrich]

John, thank you! A million times, THANK YOU! Dell's instructions didn't make
a heck of a lot of sense and then the hassle I got from some folks here when
I tried to get help didn't make things any less confusing!




-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Don't feel bad--I had a time figuring it out myself. I knew there was some
way to remotely power on/off my Dell servers, but had no clue how to
actually do it.

The workstation you're controlling from needs the BMB/IPMI tool installed on
it. Once it has it, drop to a command prompt and go here:

C:\Program Files\Dell\SysMgt\bmc

(Or wherever you installed it.)

Then run:

ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power status

To query the server for its power status. You'll be prompted for your
password, although I think you may be able to put that in the command line
as well.

If the server is off, use this to turn it on:

ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power on

Now, I may be alone in this, but I always have to run each command twice.
The first time I run it, I get:

Authentication type NONE not supported
Activate Session command failed
Error: Unable to establish LAN session
Unable to get Chassis Power Status

Then I immediately run it a second time, and it works that time. Happens to
me every single time.


John



-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one
semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really
confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of
sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really
want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to
the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't
say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests
you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't
working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I
saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
English, even. And did I mention they were free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is
free too.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise. 

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to
connect.

Al

RE: Dell BMC

[John Aldrich]

No, I didn't. Thanks for pointing that out.




-Original Message-
From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, did you see the reply in thread from John Hornbuckle? He included some
pretty straight-forward instructions that he said worked for him. Quoted
below for convenience:

>Don't feel bad--I had a time figuring it out myself. I knew there was some
way to remotely power on/off my Dell servers, but had no clue how to
actually do >it.

>The workstation you're controlling from needs the BMB/IPMI tool installed
on it. Once it has it, drop to a command prompt and go here:

>C:\Program Files\Dell\SysMgt\bmc (Or wherever you installed it.)

>Then run:

>ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power status

>To query the server for its power status. You'll be prompted for your
password, although I think you may be able to put that in the command line
as well.

>If the server is off, use this to turn it on:

>ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power on

>Now, I may be alone in this, but I always have to run each command twice.
The first time I run it, I get:

>Authentication type NONE not supported
>Activate Session command failed
>Error: Unable to establish LAN session
>Unable to get Chassis Power Status

>Then I immediately run it a second time, and it works that time. Happens to
me every single time.

>John

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Dear Ms. Hensala:
I AM TRYING to figure it out. I find the verbiage in the instructions highly
confusing. As I mentioned, the Dell info speaks at one point of using
Hyperterm to access the BMC and then other times it speaks of using
OpenManage. I don't know if it's one or the other or whether it's both or
what. I was *hoping* that someone here had used it before and could speak to
how to configure it. Since no one here seems to have any first-hand
knowledge of how to use it, I withdraw my question. I'm SO sorry to have
bothered you. Back to the regular flame wars. Asbestos suit on!



From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

I think at some point one has to take responsibility for becoming qualified
to do the work they are being paid to perform and stop asking to be hand fed
information. This is largely an integrity issue.  We are all busy and we all
have the same amount of time.  You can choose how to spend it - and saying
we are too busy to learn is a huge cop out.  Saying there is no $$ for
training is a cop out as there are abundant free resources.  At some point
you have to wonder about motivation and ability.

I have not and would not attack like a hyena but that does not mean that I
do not grow increasingly weary and annoyed with the lack of initiative.

Shauna Hensala




Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:03:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Dell BMC
From: jonathan.l...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Perhaps.
Or more likely, some people don't want help, no matter how much they ask for
it.


 
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Paul Hutchings 
wrote:
>From where I'm sitting it is, or as good as.  Reminds me of a pack of
Hyena's sometimes and soon as one goes in for the kill others soon follow.
 
Personally I think it's plain wrong but that's just my view.
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 August 2011 17:00

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

 
It's not every single post.
 
Just sayin'.
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
Gary,

While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is
realy getting old.  Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the
guy makes?

>>> Gary Slinger  08/03/11 8:51 AM >>>
"I'm not exactly a dummy though".
Can we get a vote on that?


-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one
semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really
confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of
sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really
want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to
the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't
say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests
you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
states something about 

RE: VLAN N00b

[Paul Hutchings]

Does the Sonicwall have the concept of "Zones" and can it act as a DHCP server 
with different scopes per interface?

Using a Juniper as an example, you configure an interface as a Zone (called, 
say, "Guest") and assign it an interface and run a DHCP server on that 
interface.

Paul

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: 03 August 2011 15:27
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VLAN N00b

So...I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into learning a 
little VLANing.

Environment:
DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)
Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
SonicWall Firewall
Dell PowerConnect 3448
17 Domain PC's
HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC's using this to get to the Internet.

Desired result for WLAN clients:

* Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any domain 
systems.

* DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)

I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get to the 
firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get assigned an IP address. 
I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP's but then I lose control of IP's 
(reservations, etc) from the SBS system.

It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on the 2nd 
DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and the Sonicwall.

Here's a document I found helpful:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/howto_config_private_vlans.pdf

>From that, the SBS server and all domain PC's would be in Community 10
The AP would be in Community 11
The firewall and 2nd DC (now doing DHCP) would be promiscuous. Is that too big 
of a risk? The HP110 can do RADIUS and I did install that capability on the 2nd 
DC but I don't really know what I'm doing here.

This would get me close to my desired result. Can RADIUS be used to 
conditionally hand out IP addresses? What would be nice is the ability to have 
it so VLAN1 (Community 10 in the diagram) gets some IP settings, VLAN2 
(Community 11) gets others - namely a different DNS server.

All thoughts and comments welcome.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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Re: VLAN N00b

[Bill Humphries]

+1

buy cheapo wireless router that supports tomato firmware. it will be 
rock solid. easy and clean.


Kennedy, Jim wrote:


Send it back and get one that does, or put something in the ‘new’ 
network that will do the dhcp for you. Will the Sonic do dhcp on just 
one interface perhaps? I really think this direction is the cleanest 
and easiest to do.


*From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:21 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: VLAN N00b

I thought of that, but this AP doesn’t have the capability to be a 
DHCP server.


Dave

*From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 


*Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:57 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: VLAN N00b

Are only non-company assets going to use this AP? If yes read on, 
otherwise hit delete.


Since it is a small environment with only one AP, set the AP up as 
it’s own DHCP server….put it on it’s own physical and logical network 
and drop another port in the Sonic Firewall and just route them 
straight out to the internets….


* *

*From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 


*Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:27 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* VLAN N00b

So…I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into 
learning a little VLANing.


Environment:

DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)

Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
SonicWall Firewall
Dell PowerConnect 3448

17 Domain PC’s

HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC’s using this to get to the 
Internet.


Desired result for WLAN clients:

· Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any domain systems.

· DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)

I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get 
to the firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get 
assigned an IP address. I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP’s 
but then I lose control of IP’s (reservations, etc) from the SBS system.


It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on 
the 2^nd DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and the Sonicwall.


Here’s a document I found helpful:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/howto_config_private_vlans.pdf

From that, the SBS server and all domain PC’s would be in Community 10

The AP would be in Community 11
The firewall and 2^nd DC (now doing DHCP) would be promiscuous. Is 
that too big of a risk? The HP110 can do RADIUS and I did install that 
capability on the 2^nd DC but I don’t really know what I’m doing here.


This would get me close to my desired result. Can RADIUS be used to 
conditionally hand out IP addresses? What would be nice is the ability 
to have it so VLAN1 (Community 10 in the diagram) gets some IP 
settings, VLAN2 (Community 11) gets others – namely a different DNS 
server.


All thoughts and comments welcome.

*David Lum*
Systems Engineer // NWEA^TM
Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

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RE: find duplicate files

[Paul Hutchings]

Treesize Pro will do it.  I use Treesize but haven't used that feature of it 
much so I'm not sure how good/bad it is, but if you're trying to free space 
obviously Treesize does a ton of other useful reporting.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: 03 August 2011 16:48
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: find duplicate files

Hi all,

Any suggestions for a tool that I could use to search for duplicate files on a 
20tb Xsan?  Although it primarily has Macs attached to it, I do have one 
windows machine.

Thanks.

Bill

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RE: VLAN N00b

[Kennedy, Jim]

Send it back and get one that does, or put something in the 'new' network that 
will do the dhcp for you. Will the Sonic do dhcp on just one interface perhaps? 
 I really think this direction is the cleanest and easiest to do.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

I thought of that, but this AP doesn't have the capability to be a DHCP server.

Dave

From: Kennedy, Jim 
[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

Are only non-company assets going to use this AP? If yes read on, otherwise hit 
delete.

Since it is a small environment with only one AP, set the AP up as it's own 
DHCP serverput it on it's own physical and logical network and drop another 
port in the Sonic Firewall and just route them straight out to the internets



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VLAN N00b

So...I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into learning a 
little VLANing.

Environment:
DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)
Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
SonicWall Firewall
Dell PowerConnect 3448
17 Domain PC's
HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC's using this to get to the Internet.

Desired result for WLAN clients:

* Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any domain 
systems.

* DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)

I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get to the 
firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get assigned an IP address. 
I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP's but then I lose control of IP's 
(reservations, etc) from the SBS system.

It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on the 2nd 
DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and the Sonicwall.

Here's a document I found helpful:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/howto_config_private_vlans.pdf

>From that, the SBS server and all domain PC's would be in Community 10
The AP would be in Community 11
The firewall and 2nd DC (now doing DHCP) would be promiscuous. Is that too big 
of a risk? The HP110 can do RADIUS and I did install that capability on the 2nd 
DC but I don't really know what I'm doing here.

This would get me close to my desired result. Can RADIUS be used to 
conditionally hand out IP addresses? What would be nice is the ability to have 
it so VLAN1 (Community 10 in the diagram) gets some IP settings, VLAN2 
(Community 11) gets others - namely a different DNS server.

All thoughts and comments welcome.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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Re: find duplicate files

[Kurt Buff]

Try this, among others:
http://blog.codeassassin.com/2007/10/13/find-duplicate-files-with-powershell/

Kurt

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 08:47, Bill Humphries  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Any suggestions for a tool that I could use to search for duplicate files on
> a 20tb Xsan?  Although it primarily has Macs attached to it, I do have one
> windows machine.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill
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Re: VLAN N00b

[Harry Singh]

Does your switch have a DHCP server? If yes, then when you create that
second vlan you can then assign a DHCP scope just for VLAN interface.

Create a rule on your FW for outbound DNS, either internally or to something
externally like OPENDns. Since this would be a "separate network" and if you
want to define it on your firewall (anti-spoofing beware) you can then
create policies to block/allow certain traffic.

Separately and probably a simpler route is to create ACL rules on the
switchport configured for this AP to prevent/lockdown or allow activity to
and from that port.

I'm unfamiliar with the Dell switches, but I'm guess this is a possibility,
if not with a firmware update.

Cheers,

Harry.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:21 PM, David Lum  wrote:

> I thought of that, but this AP doesn’t have the capability to be a DHCP
> server.
>
> ** **
>
> Dave
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:57 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: VLAN N00b
>
> ** **
>
> Are only non-company assets going to use this AP? If yes read on, otherwise
> hit delete.
>
> ** **
>
> Since it is a small environment with only one AP, set the AP up as it’s own
> DHCP server….put it on it’s own physical and logical network and drop
> another port in the Sonic Firewall and just route them straight out to the
> internets….
>
> * *
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:27 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* VLAN N00b
>
> ** **
>
> So…I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into learning a
> little VLANing.
>
> ** **
>
> Environment:
>
> DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)
>
> Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
> SonicWall Firewall
> Dell PowerConnect 3448
>
> 17 Domain PC’s
>
> HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC’s using this to get to the Internet.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Desired result for WLAN clients: 
>
> **· **Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any
> domain systems.  
>
> **· **DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get to the
> firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get assigned an IP
> address. I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP’s but then I lose
> control of IP’s (reservations, etc) from the SBS system.
>
> ** **
>
> It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on the 2
> nd DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and the Sonicwall.
>
> ** **
>
> Here’s a document I found helpful:
>
> http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/howto_config_private_vlans.pdf
> 
>
> ** **
>
> From that, the SBS server and all domain PC’s would be in Community 10
>
> The AP would be in Community 11
> The firewall and 2nd DC (now doing DHCP) would be promiscuous. Is that too
> big of a risk? The HP110 can do RADIUS and I did install that capability on
> the 2nd DC but I don’t really know what I’m doing here.
>
> ** **
>
> This would get me close to my desired result. Can RADIUS be used to
> conditionally hand out IP addresses? What would be nice is the ability to
> have it so VLAN1 (Community 10 in the diagram) gets some IP settings, VLAN2
> (Community 11) gets others – namely a different DNS server.
>
> ** **
>
> All thoughts and comments welcome.
>
> *David Lum*
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
>
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Re: Dell BMC

[William Robbins]

Indeed! [1]

 - WJR

[1] Trademark ASB, all royalties paid to same.


On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:29, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

> > Personally I get sick and tired of all the OT stuff on here
>
> ** **
>
> Too bad there wasn’t a more appropriate place for such things…
>
> ** **
>
> -sc
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:13 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Dell BMC
>
> ** **
>
> Agreed, to an extent.  I’m afraid I still think there’s a pattern where
> John posts and you can see people start to go on little fishing trips to see
> where they can take things.
>
> ** **
>
> Personally I get sick and tired of all the OT stuff on here but I just keep
> quiet and ignore it.  I wish people would just think a little before hitting
> send sometimes.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 03 August 2011 18:04
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Dell BMC
>
> ** **
>
> Perhaps.
>
> Or more likely, some people don't want help, no matter how much they ask
> for it.
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Paul Hutchings 
> wrote:
>
> From where I’m sitting it is, or as good as.  Reminds me of a pack of
> Hyena’s sometimes and soon as one goes in for the kill others soon follow.
> 
>
>  
>
> Personally I think it’s plain wrong but that’s just my view.
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 03 August 2011 17:00
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Dell BMC
>
>  
>
> It's not every single post.
>
>  
>
> Just sayin'.
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
> 
>
> Gary,
>
> While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is
> realy getting old.  Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the
> guy makes?
>
> >>> Gary Slinger  08/03/11 8:51 AM >>>
>
> "I'm not exactly a dummy though".
>
> Can we get a vote on that?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "John Aldrich" 
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> Michael, et al:
> Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least
> one
> semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really
> confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of
> sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really
> want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to
> the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't
> say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it
> suggests
> you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
> states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
> limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
> software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't
> working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I
> saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?
>
> The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
> IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
> links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
> English, even. And did I mention they were free?
>
> There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
> many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
> various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).
>
> And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention
> is
> free too.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Re: Dell BMC
>
> You're not really in a position to criticise.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "John Aldrich" 
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the
> IPMI
> tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
> to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
> make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
> instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
> work

RE: Dell BMC

[Steven M. Caesare]

> Personally I get sick and tired of all the OT stuff on here

 

Too bad there wasn't a more appropriate place for such things...

 

-sc

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

 

Agreed, to an extent.  I'm afraid I still think there's a pattern where
John posts and you can see people start to go on little fishing trips to
see where they can take things.

 

Personally I get sick and tired of all the OT stuff on here but I just
keep quiet and ignore it.  I wish people would just think a little
before hitting send sometimes.

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 03 August 2011 18:04
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

 

Perhaps.

Or more likely, some people don't want help, no matter how much they ask
for it.



 

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:

>From where I'm sitting it is, or as good as.  Reminds me of a pack of
Hyena's sometimes and soon as one goes in for the kill others soon
follow.

 

Personally I think it's plain wrong but that's just my view.

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 03 August 2011 17:00


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

 

It's not every single post.

 

Just sayin'.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Joseph Heaton 
wrote:

Gary,

While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is
realy getting old.  Can't we move beyond harping on every single post
the guy makes?

>>> Gary Slinger  08/03/11 8:51 AM >>>

"I'm not exactly a dummy though".

Can we get a vote on that?



-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues"

Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least
one
semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is
really
confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot
of
sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I
really
want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according
to
the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I
can't
say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it
suggests
you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal
isn't
working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I
think I
saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both.

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC
and
IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits
provide
links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In
good
English, even. And did I mention they were free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows,
plus
many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I
mention is
free too.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise.

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues"

Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the
IPMI
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC
software
to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard
to
make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're
supposed
to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much
help,
so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write
instructions
that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then
to
Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, August 

RE: Dell BMC

[Damien Solodow]

John, did you see the reply in thread from John Hornbuckle? He included some 
pretty straight-forward instructions that he said worked for him. Quoted below 
for convenience:

>Don't feel bad--I had a time figuring it out myself. I knew there was some way 
>to remotely power on/off my Dell servers, but had no clue how to actually do 
>>it.

>The workstation you're controlling from needs the BMB/IPMI tool installed on 
>it. Once it has it, drop to a command prompt and go here:

>C:\Program Files\Dell\SysMgt\bmc (Or wherever you installed it.)

>Then run:

>ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power status

>To query the server for its power status. You'll be prompted for your 
>password, although I think you may be able to put that in the command line as 
>well.

>If the server is off, use this to turn it on:

>ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power on

>Now, I may be alone in this, but I always have to run each command twice. The 
>first time I run it, I get:

>Authentication type NONE not supported
>Activate Session command failed
>Error: Unable to establish LAN session
>Unable to get Chassis Power Status

>Then I immediately run it a second time, and it works that time. Happens to me 
>every single time.

>John

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Dear Ms. Hensala:
I AM TRYING to figure it out. I find the verbiage in the instructions highly 
confusing. As I mentioned, the Dell info speaks at one point of using Hyperterm 
to access the BMC and then other times it speaks of using OpenManage. I don't 
know if it's one or the other or whether it's both or what. I was *hoping* that 
someone here had used it before and could speak to how to configure it. Since 
no one here seems to have any first-hand knowledge of how to use it, I withdraw 
my question. I'm SO sorry to have bothered you. Back to the regular flame wars. 
Asbestos suit on!



From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

I think at some point one has to take responsibility for becoming qualified to 
do the work they are being paid to perform and stop asking to be hand fed 
information. This is largely an integrity issue.  We are all busy and we all 
have the same amount of time.  You can choose how to spend it - and saying we 
are too busy to learn is a huge cop out.  Saying there is no $$ for training is 
a cop out as there are abundant free resources.  At some point you have to 
wonder about motivation and ability.

I have not and would not attack like a hyena but that does not mean that I do 
not grow increasingly weary and annoyed with the lack of initiative.

Shauna Hensala




Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:03:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Dell BMC
From: jonathan.l...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Perhaps.
Or more likely, some people don't want help, no matter how much they ask for it.


 
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Paul Hutchings 
wrote:
>From where I'm sitting it is, or as good as.  Reminds me of a pack of Hyena's 
>sometimes and soon as one goes in for the kill others soon follow.
 
Personally I think it's plain wrong but that's just my view.
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 August 2011 17:00

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

 
It's not every single post.
 
Just sayin'.
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
Gary,

While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is realy 
getting old.  Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the guy makes?

>>> Gary Slinger  08/03/11 8:51 AM >>>
"I'm not exactly a dummy though".
Can we get a vote on that?


-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one 
semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really 
confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of 
sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really want 
is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to the Dell 
documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't say as the 
documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests you should be 
able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it states something about 
the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage software 
to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal i

RE: VLAN N00b

[David Lum]

I thought of that, but this AP doesn't have the capability to be a DHCP server.

Dave

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VLAN N00b

Are only non-company assets going to use this AP? If yes read on, otherwise hit 
delete.

Since it is a small environment with only one AP, set the AP up as it's own 
DHCP serverput it on it's own physical and logical network and drop another 
port in the Sonic Firewall and just route them straight out to the internets



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VLAN N00b

So...I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into learning a 
little VLANing.

Environment:
DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)
Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
SonicWall Firewall
Dell PowerConnect 3448
17 Domain PC's
HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC's using this to get to the Internet.

Desired result for WLAN clients:

* Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any domain 
systems.

* DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)

I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get to the 
firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get assigned an IP address. 
I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP's but then I lose control of IP's 
(reservations, etc) from the SBS system.

It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on the 2nd 
DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and the Sonicwall.

Here's a document I found helpful:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/howto_config_private_vlans.pdf

>From that, the SBS server and all domain PC's would be in Community 10
The AP would be in Community 11
The firewall and 2nd DC (now doing DHCP) would be promiscuous. Is that too big 
of a risk? The HP110 can do RADIUS and I did install that capability on the 2nd 
DC but I don't really know what I'm doing here.

This would get me close to my desired result. Can RADIUS be used to 
conditionally hand out IP addresses? What would be nice is the ability to have 
it so VLAN1 (Community 10 in the diagram) gets some IP settings, VLAN2 
(Community 11) gets others - namely a different DNS server.

All thoughts and comments welcome.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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RE: Dell BMC

[John Aldrich]

Dear Ms. Hensala:
I AM TRYING to figure it out. I find the verbiage in the instructions highly
confusing. As I mentioned, the Dell info speaks at one point of using
Hyperterm to access the BMC and then other times it speaks of using
OpenManage. I don't know if it's one or the other or whether it's both or
what. I was *hoping* that someone here had used it before and could speak to
how to configure it. Since no one here seems to have any first-hand
knowledge of how to use it, I withdraw my question. I'm SO sorry to have
bothered you. Back to the regular flame wars. Asbestos suit on!



From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

I think at some point one has to take responsibility for becoming qualified
to do the work they are being paid to perform and stop asking to be hand fed
information. This is largely an integrity issue.  We are all busy and we all
have the same amount of time.  You can choose how to spend it - and saying
we are too busy to learn is a huge cop out.  Saying there is no $$ for
training is a cop out as there are abundant free resources.  At some point
you have to wonder about motivation and ability.

I have not and would not attack like a hyena but that does not mean that I
do not grow increasingly weary and annoyed with the lack of initiative.

Shauna Hensala




Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:03:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Dell BMC
From: jonathan.l...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Perhaps.
Or more likely, some people don't want help, no matter how much they ask for
it.


 
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Paul Hutchings 
wrote:
>From where I’m sitting it is, or as good as.  Reminds me of a pack of
Hyena’s sometimes and soon as one goes in for the kill others soon follow.
 
Personally I think it’s plain wrong but that’s just my view.
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 03 August 2011 17:00

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

 
It's not every single post.
 
Just sayin'.
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
Gary,

While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is
realy getting old.  Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the
guy makes?

>>> Gary Slinger  08/03/11 8:51 AM >>>
"I'm not exactly a dummy though".
Can we get a vote on that?


-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one
semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really
confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of
sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really
want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to
the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't
say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests
you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't
working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I
saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both.

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
English, even. And did I mention they were free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is
free too.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise.

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
to 

RE: Dell BMC

[Shauna Hensala]

I think at some point one has to take responsibility for becoming qualified to 
do the work they are being paid to perform and stop asking to be hand fed 
information. This is largely an integrity issue.  We are all busy and we all 
have the same amount of time.  You can choose how to spend it - and saying we 
are too busy to learn is a huge cop out.  Saying there is no $$ for training is 
a cop out as there are abundant free resources.  At some point you have to 
wonder about motivation and ability.

I have not and would not attack like a hyena but that does not mean that I do 
not grow increasingly weary and annoyed with the lack of initiative.

Shauna Hensala




Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:03:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Dell BMC
From: jonathan.l...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Perhaps.Or more likely, some people don't want help, no matter how much they 
ask for it.

 On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Paul Hutchings  
wrote:









>From where I’m sitting it is, or as good as.  Reminds me of a pack of Hyena’s 
>sometimes and soon as one goes in for the kill others soon follow.

 
Personally I think it’s plain wrong but that’s just my view.




From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]


Sent: 03 August 2011 17:00

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Dell BMC
 

It's not every single post.


 


Just sayin'.


On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
Gary,



While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is realy 
getting old.  Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the guy makes?



>>> Gary Slinger  08/03/11 8:51 AM >>>

"I'm not exactly a dummy though".



Can we get a vote on that?



-Original Message-

From: "John Aldrich" 

Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26

To: NT System Admin Issues

Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 

Subject: RE: Dell BMC



Michael, et al:

Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one

semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really

confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of

sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really

want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to

the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't

say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests

you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it

states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some

limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage

software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't

working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I

saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both.



-Original Message-

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]

Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Dell BMC



John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?



The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and

IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide

links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good

English, even. And did I mention they were free?



There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus

many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the

various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).



And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is

free too.



Regards,



Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com





-Original Message-

From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues




Subject: Re: Dell BMC



You're not really in a position to criticise.



-Original Message-

From: "John Aldrich" 

Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46

To: NT System Admin Issues

Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 

Subject: RE: Dell BMC



Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI

tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software

to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to

make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the

instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the

workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed

to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,

so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management

workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions

that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to

Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!

RE: find duplicate files

[Crawford, Scott]

How big of a volume have you tried it on?  Mine choked on about 2tb.  I can't 
really imagine how it would handle 20.

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: find duplicate files

www.easyduplicatefinder.com Works pretty 
well!



On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Bill Humphries 
mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

Any suggestions for a tool that I could use to search for duplicate files on a 
20tb Xsan?  Although it primarily has Macs attached to it, I do have one 
windows machine.

Thanks.

Bill

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RE: Dell BMC

[Paul Hutchings]

Agreed, to an extent.  I'm afraid I still think there's a pattern where John 
posts and you can see people start to go on little fishing trips to see where 
they can take things.

Personally I get sick and tired of all the OT stuff on here but I just keep 
quiet and ignore it.  I wish people would just think a little before hitting 
send sometimes.

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 August 2011 18:04
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

Perhaps.
Or more likely, some people don't want help, no matter how much they ask for it.



On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Paul Hutchings 
mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> wrote:
>From where I'm sitting it is, or as good as.  Reminds me of a pack of Hyena's 
>sometimes and soon as one goes in for the kill others soon follow.

Personally I think it's plain wrong but that's just my view.
From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 August 2011 17:00

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

It's not every single post.

Just sayin'.
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Joseph Heaton 
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov>> wrote:
Gary,

While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is realy 
getting old.  Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the guy makes?

>>> Gary Slinger mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com>> 
>>> 08/03/11 8:51 AM >>>
"I'm not exactly a dummy though".
Can we get a vote on that?


-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one
semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really
confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of
sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really
want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to
the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't
say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests
you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't
working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I
saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both.

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
English, even. And did I mention they were free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is
free too.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger 
[mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise.

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK

Re: Dell BMC

[Jonathan Link]

Perhaps.
Or more likely, some people don't want help, no matter how much they ask for
it.



On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Paul Hutchings
wrote:

>  From where I’m sitting it is, or as good as.  Reminds me of a pack of
> Hyena’s sometimes and soon as one goes in for the kill others soon follow.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Personally I think it’s plain wrong but that’s just my view.
>
> 
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 03 August 2011 17:00
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Dell BMC
>
> ** **
>
> It's not every single post.
>
>  
>
> Just sayin'.
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
> 
>
> Gary,
>
> While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is
> realy getting old.  Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the
> guy makes?
>
> >>> Gary Slinger  08/03/11 8:51 AM >>>
>
> "I'm not exactly a dummy though".
>
> Can we get a vote on that?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "John Aldrich" 
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> Michael, et al:
> Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least
> one
> semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really
> confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of
> sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really
> want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to
> the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't
> say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it
> suggests
> you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
> states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
> limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
> software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't
> working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I
> saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?
>
> The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
> IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
> links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
> English, even. And did I mention they were free?
>
> There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
> many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
> various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).
>
> And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention
> is
> free too.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
>   Subject: Re: Dell BMC
>
> You're not really in a position to criticise.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "John Aldrich" 
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the
> IPMI
> tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
> to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
> make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
> instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
> workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
> to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
> so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
> workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
> that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
> Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool
> to
> connect.
>
> Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.
>
> It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple
> of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joh

RE: VLAN N00b

[Kennedy, Jim]

Are only non-company assets going to use this AP? If yes read on, otherwise hit 
delete.

Since it is a small environment with only one AP, set the AP up as it's own 
DHCP serverput it on it's own physical and logical network and drop another 
port in the Sonic Firewall and just route them straight out to the internets



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VLAN N00b

So...I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into learning a 
little VLANing.

Environment:
DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)
Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
SonicWall Firewall
Dell PowerConnect 3448
17 Domain PC's
HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC's using this to get to the Internet.

Desired result for WLAN clients:

* Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any domain 
systems.

* DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)

I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get to the 
firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get assigned an IP address. 
I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP's but then I lose control of IP's 
(reservations, etc) from the SBS system.

It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on the 2nd 
DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and the Sonicwall.

Here's a document I found helpful:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/howto_config_private_vlans.pdf

>From that, the SBS server and all domain PC's would be in Community 10
The AP would be in Community 11
The firewall and 2nd DC (now doing DHCP) would be promiscuous. Is that too big 
of a risk? The HP110 can do RADIUS and I did install that capability on the 2nd 
DC but I don't really know what I'm doing here.

This would get me close to my desired result. Can RADIUS be used to 
conditionally hand out IP addresses? What would be nice is the ability to have 
it so VLAN1 (Community 10 in the diagram) gets some IP settings, VLAN2 
(Community 11) gets others - namely a different DNS server.

All thoughts and comments welcome.
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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RE: Dell BMC

[Paul Hutchings]

>From where I'm sitting it is, or as good as.  Reminds me of a pack of Hyena's 
>sometimes and soon as one goes in for the kill others soon follow.

Personally I think it's plain wrong but that's just my view.

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 August 2011 17:00
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

It's not every single post.

Just sayin'.
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Joseph Heaton 
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov>> wrote:
Gary,

While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is realy 
getting old.  Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the guy makes?

>>> Gary Slinger mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com>> 
>>> 08/03/11 8:51 AM >>>
"I'm not exactly a dummy though".
Can we get a vote on that?

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one
semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really
confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of
sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really
want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to
the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't
say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests
you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't
working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I
saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both.

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
English, even. And did I mention they were free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is
free too.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger 
[mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise.

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle 
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to
connect.

Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.

It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple
of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us




-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich 
[mailto

RE: find duplicate files

[Joseph L. Casale]

Heck, http://powershell.com has some trivial examples then.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: find duplicate files

file name, modify date should be enough.


Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> How thorough is your need? Filename or hash etc?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: find duplicate files
>
> Hi all,
>
> Any suggestions for a tool that I could use to search for duplicate 
> files on a 20tb Xsan?  Although it primarily has Macs attached to it, I 
> do have one windows machine.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill
>
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Re: Excel reports 4 cpus?

[kz20fl]

Check task manager, I dare say that will show each core separatelu, meaning 4 
displays of CPU

--Original Message--
From: Mathew Shember
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Excel reports 4 cpus?
Sent: 3 Aug 2011 17:16

Excel was never a strong point for me.

I have a user with a rather cpu intensive routine.

She has her script reporting cpus at the bottom.

She got concerned when her sheet reported 4 cpus.The two servers she 
uses(terminal servers in a citrix setup) both have 2 quad cores.  I checked the 
hardware and the cpus are fine.

Any ideas on why this is reported?   So far it's happened once and of course 
she wants to know why...


Thanks,
Mathew



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RE: find duplicate files

[Joseph L. Casale]

How thorough is your need? Filename or hash etc?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: find duplicate files

Hi all,

Any suggestions for a tool that I could use to search for duplicate 
files on a 20tb Xsan?  Although it primarily has Macs attached to it, I 
do have one windows machine.

Thanks.

Bill

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Re: MS Windows Intune

[James Rankin]

The price point would have been great if it was going to be paid for by the
businesses I am managing (in the loosest possible sense). I agree, it's very
reasonable. However, the business owners are the type who don't want any
ongoing expense. Therefore I would have had to pay it out of my own pocket,
and would have been doing it for my own convenience. At the time I
originally looked (about this time last year), my money was pretty tight and
I couldn't afford to pay for it, it would have been for about forty or fifty
endpoints.

I could probably afford it now, but I have other expenses more pressing :-)

On 3 August 2011 17:11, Michael B. Smith  wrote:

>  I consider the cost extremely reasonable; especially for the benefits
> provided.
>
> ** **
>
> What was your issue with the price point? I mean, what would you have
> considered reasonable?
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> ** **
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:09 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: MS Windows Intune
>
> ** **
>
> I was hoping it might be suitable for me to manage the various (very small)
> businesses that I look after on the side, but the cost put me off a bit.
> Still using a combination of TeamViewer and a selection of configured email
> alerts instead :-(
>
> On 3 August 2011 17:05, Michael B. Smith  wrote:***
> *
>
> I’ve got a small client on the beta. It seems very interesting. None of my
> larger clients (that is, >50 seats) were willing to give up infrastructure
> they already have in place to perform the required functions. Perhaps at h/w
> refresh time…
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
>  
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>  
>
> *From:* Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:26 AM
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Excel reports 4 cpus?

[Mathew Shember]

Excel was never a strong point for me.

I have a user with a rather cpu intensive routine.

She has her script reporting cpus at the bottom.

She got concerned when her sheet reported 4 cpus.The two servers she 
uses(terminal servers in a citrix setup) both have 2 quad cores.  I checked the 
hardware and the cpus are fine.

Any ideas on why this is reported?   So far it's happened once and of course 
she wants to know why...


Thanks,
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Re: find duplicate files

[Bill Humphries]

file name, modify date should be enough.


Joseph L. Casale wrote:

How thorough is your need? Filename or hash etc?

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From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:48 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: find duplicate files

Hi all,

Any suggestions for a tool that I could use to search for duplicate 
files on a 20tb Xsan?  Although it primarily has Macs attached to it, I 
do have one windows machine.


Thanks.

Bill

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RE: MS Windows Intune

[Michael B. Smith]

I consider the cost extremely reasonable; especially for the benefits provided.

What was your issue with the price point? I mean, what would you have 
considered reasonable?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MS Windows Intune

I was hoping it might be suitable for me to manage the various (very small) 
businesses that I look after on the side, but the cost put me off a bit. Still 
using a combination of TeamViewer and a selection of configured email alerts 
instead :-(
On 3 August 2011 17:05, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
I've got a small client on the beta. It seems very interesting. None of my 
larger clients (that is, >50 seats) were willing to give up infrastructure they 
already have in place to perform the required functions. Perhaps at h/w refresh 
time...

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Martin Blackstone 
[mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MS Windows Intune

Just pinging the list to see if anyone is using this or thinking about it.
We have been playing with the 2.0 beta and it has a very compelling feature set.
Seems like it could shape up to be a great cloud app.

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Re: MS Windows Intune

[James Rankin]

I was hoping it might be suitable for me to manage the various (very small)
businesses that I look after on the side, but the cost put me off a bit.
Still using a combination of TeamViewer and a selection of configured email
alerts instead :-(

On 3 August 2011 17:05, Michael B. Smith  wrote:

>  I’ve got a small client on the beta. It seems very interesting. None of
> my larger clients (that is, >50 seats) were willing to give up
> infrastructure they already have in place to perform the required functions.
> Perhaps at h/w refresh time…
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> ** **
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:26 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* MS Windows Intune
>
> ** **
>
> Just pinging the list to see if anyone is using this or thinking about it.
> 
>
> We have been playing with the 2.0 beta and it has a very compelling feature
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Re: Dell BMC

[Gary Slinger]

I suppose the question is whether he'll get the hint or I'll get bored first... 
:)

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 08:55:41 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

Gary,

While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is realy 
getting old.  Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the guy makes?

>>> Gary Slinger  08/03/11 8:51 AM >>>
"I'm not exactly a dummy though". 

Can we get a vote on that?

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one
semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really
confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of
sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really
want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to
the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't
say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests
you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't
working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I
saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
English, even. And did I mention they were free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is
free too.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise. 

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to
connect.

Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.

It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple
of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us




-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dell BMC

Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm
getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in
Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
server so I can get them to help me set it up.

I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it
up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
"configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI
over LAN. Still can't telnet t

Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers

[Andrew S. Baker]

Like they couldn't just make route.exe run the other commands...   Sigh.

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On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  Heh. CCNA & CCNP – even if 10 years old (and not current) – they drum
> certain things into you. :-P
>
> ** **
>
> Actually (sssh) route.exe will be deprecated with Windows 8, and you’ll
> need to do this instead:
>
> ** **
>
> netsh int ipv4 show route
>
> netsh int ipv6 show route
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> ** **
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:51 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers
>
> ** **
>
>
> And, yes, Domino configs were all dug through last week, first thing.  THEN
> we started working on routes.
>
> Silly, but neither my boss nor I seemed to be familiar with the ROUTE PRINT
> (and above all, ROUTE DELETE) commands.
> --
> richard
>
>
> 
>
> *Steve Kradel * 
>
> 08/03/2011 09:26 AM 
>
> Please respond to
> "NT System Admin Issues" 
>
> To
>
> "NT System Admin Issues" 
>  Press this button if the "To" is a fax number. Enter in the fax number
> like 123-456-7890. 
>
> cc
>
> Subject
>
> Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers
>
> ** **
>
>
>
>
> Agreed, checking the routing table is the place to start.
>
>
> After that I would dig into the Domino config -- checking for
> connection documents (and the Ports field thereupon), passthru
> servers, that kind of stuff.  Although it is unlikely to be a Domino
> issue given your other test results.
>
> --Steve
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
> > “route print”.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael B. Smith
> >
> > Consultant and Exchange MVP
> >
> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> >
> >
> >
> > From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:31 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings!
> >
> > We have two pair of Domino servers in NYC, and a pair of them in Illiois
> > (all Win2003 standard server).  All are Domino 7.0.2 (for which service
> has
> > been discontinued - EOL for that product version).
> >
> > The way mail flows, all non-company mail addressed to those in Illinois
> is
> > routed through one of the NYC Domino servers.  Consequently, if
> NYCDOMINO1
> > cannot connect to ILNOTES1, then Illinois gets no outside mail.
> >
> > For the past few years, we have had a WAN connection consisting of two
> > bonded T1s (total 3 Mbps).  We now have a new fiber WAN connection
> (through
> > a different vendor) at (currently) 45 Mbps.  All would be well, except
> for
> > this screwy(!) routing issue...
> >
> > ILNOTES1 (as well as other random IL machines) route to NYCDOMINIO1
> through
> > the new 45 Mbps pipe (using tracert in a command console).  NYCDOMINO1
> > routes to randomly selected IL machines through the new pipe, EXCEPT to
> > ILNOTES1.
> >
> > When we disconnect the old 3 Mbps router (at either the IL or the NYC
> end)
> > and to a tracert ILNOTES1 (by any name or by IP address), it times out
> with
> > the cheerful message "No route found to host".
> >
> > The Windows network settings (including things like "NETBios over tcp"
> and
> > "Allow lmhosts import") are identical but for host IP address.
> >
> > I have checked all the files in [admin$]\system32\drivers\etc.  None of
> the
> > files have any entries (other than the defaults one sees whenever
> installing
> > Windows).
> >
> > Any ideas where to look next?  We would really prefer not continuing to
> pay
> > one vendor for a slow pipe for this single one-way connection.  (We would
> > also not like having something this screwy in our network!)
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions...
> > --
> > Richard D. McClary
> > Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group
> > ASPCA®
> > 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> > Urbana, IL  61802
> >
> > richardmccl...@aspca.org
> >
> > P: 217-337-9761
> > C: 217-417-1182
> > F: 217-337-9761
> > www.aspca.org
> >
>
>

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Re: Dell BMC

[Jonathan Link]

It's not every single post.

Just sayin'.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> Gary,
>
> While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is
> realy getting old.  Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the
> guy makes?
>
> >>> Gary Slinger  08/03/11 8:51 AM >>>
> "I'm not exactly a dummy though".
>
> Can we get a vote on that?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "John Aldrich" 
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> Michael, et al:
> Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least
> one
> semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really
> confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of
> sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really
> want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to
> the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't
> say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it
> suggests
> you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
> states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
> limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
> software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't
> working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I
> saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?
>
> The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
> IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
> links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
> English, even. And did I mention they were free?
>
> There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
> many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
> various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).
>
> And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention
> is
> free too.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Dell BMC
>
> You're not really in a position to criticise.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "John Aldrich" 
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the
> IPMI
> tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
> to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
> make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
> instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
> workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
> to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
> so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
> workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
> that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
> Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool
> to
> connect.
>
> Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.
>
> It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple
> of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Dell BMC
>
> Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm
> getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in
> Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
> server so I can get them to help me set it up.
>
> I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it
> up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
> "configure remote access" came up a

Re: find duplicate files

[Cameron]

www.easyduplicatefinder.com Works pretty well!



On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Bill Humphries wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Any suggestions for a tool that I could use to search for duplicate files
> on a 20tb Xsan?  Although it primarily has Macs attached to it, I do have
> one windows machine.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill
>
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Re: Dell BMC

[William Robbins]

Soap on a rope.

 - WJR


On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:17, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

> Does he get a medal made in his honor?
>
> ** **
>
> -sc
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:04 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Dell BMC
>
> ** **
>
> In recognition of his boundless service to the list, I declare to one and
> all that from this time forward Michael shall be called Saint Michael
> of NTSYSADMIN.
>
>  
>
> Thank you, Michael.
>
>  
>
> Huzzah!
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
>
> John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?
>
> The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
> IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
> links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
> English, even. And did I mention they were free?
>
> There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
> many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
> various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).
>
> And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention
> is free too.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Re: Dell BMC
>
> You're not really in a position to criticise.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "John Aldrich" 
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the
> IPMI
> tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
> to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
> make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
> instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
> workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
> to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
> so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
> workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
> that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
> Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool
> to
> connect.
>
> Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.
>
> It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple
> of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Dell BMC
>
> Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm
> getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in
> Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
> server so I can get them to help me set it up.
>
> I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it
> up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
> "configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI
> over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on
> that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out.
>
> If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess
> I'll give Dell a call eventually.
>
> Thanks!
>
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RE: BITS Scheduler

[Michael B. Smith]

You have to fake it out. Something like:

$filelist = dir -recurse c:\scripts |% { $_.FullName }
$b = Start-BitsTransfer -Suspended ...
$filelist | Import-CSV | Add-BitsFile -BitsJob $b
Set-BitsTransfer -BitsJob $b 
Resume-BitsTransfer -BitsJob $b

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Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BITS Scheduler

Yeah, saw that one, just a gui wrapper. No remote capabilities...
You have any idea about the recursive ability, doesn't look doable...

Thanks!

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BITS Scheduler

I've never used it, but I recently saw this project discussed:

http://sharpbits.codeplex.com/releases

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale 
[mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BITS Scheduler

Anyone aware of a project which provides the framework to schedule remote bits 
downloads on windows clients and monitor their progress?

Writing a ps script to send the job isn't too hard, but keeping track of them 
all and watching their progress/status might get cumbersome if all done 
manually at the cli.

Also, is there a way to recursively fetch a tree, not just a file?

Thanks!
jlc

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Re: Dell BMC

[Joseph Heaton]

Gary,

While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is realy 
getting old.  Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the guy makes?

>>> Gary Slinger  08/03/11 8:51 AM >>>
"I'm not exactly a dummy though". 

Can we get a vote on that?

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one
semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really
confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of
sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really
want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to
the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't
say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests
you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't
working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I
saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
English, even. And did I mention they were free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is
free too.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise. 

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to
connect.

Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.

It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple
of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us




-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dell BMC

Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm
getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in
Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
server so I can get them to help me set it up.

I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it
up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
"configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI
over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on
that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out.

If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess
I'll give Dell a call eventually.

Thanks!

~ Finally, powerf

RE: Dell BMC

[Maglinger, Paul]

You know, I have to sympathize with John Aldrich.  Many a time I've had
to wade through 700+ pages of bull-hockey when the entire process could
be summed up in less than 10 lines on one page.  Yes... I know that all
environments are different and there are different circumstances
according to hardware, but really?

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Don't feel bad--I had a time figuring it out myself. I knew there was
some way to remotely power on/off my Dell servers, but had no clue how
to actually do it.

The workstation you're controlling from needs the BMB/IPMI tool
installed on it. Once it has it, drop to a command prompt and go here:

C:\Program Files\Dell\SysMgt\bmc

(Or wherever you installed it.)

Then run:

ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power
status

To query the server for its power status. You'll be prompted for your
password, although I think you may be able to put that in the command
line as well.

If the server is off, use this to turn it on:

ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power on

Now, I may be alone in this, but I always have to run each command
twice. The first time I run it, I get:

Authentication type NONE not supported
Activate Session command failed
Error: Unable to establish LAN session
Unable to get Chassis Power Status

Then I immediately run it a second time, and it works that time. Happens
to me every single time.


John



-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least
one semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is
really confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't
make a lot of sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for
BMC. All I really want is the ability to power-cycle the server
remotely, which, according to the Dell documentation, I should be able
to do. Much more than that I can't say as the documentation, to me, is
very confusing. In one place it suggests you should be able to use
Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it states something about the
basic/free Hyperterminal having some
limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal
isn't working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server
(I think I saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or
both. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC
and IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits
provide links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones,
even. In good English, even. And did I mention they were free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows,
plus many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component
(the various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I
mention is free too.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise. 

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues"

Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the
IPMI tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC
software to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that
it's hard to make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I
read in the instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed
on the workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like
you're supposed to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That
wouldn't be much help, so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it
on the "management workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks
who write instructions that look like they got translated into Spanish,
then into Chinese, then to Greek then Russian before getting translated
BACK to English! SHEESH!



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE:

Re: Dell BMC

[Gary Slinger]

"I'm not exactly a dummy though". 

Can we get a vote on that?

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one
semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really
confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of
sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really
want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to
the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't
say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests
you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't
working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I
saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
English, even. And did I mention they were free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is
free too.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise. 

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to
connect.

Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.

It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple
of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us




-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dell BMC

Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm
getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in
Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
server so I can get them to help me set it up.

I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it
up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
"configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI
over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on
that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out.

If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess
I'll give Dell a call eventually.

Thanks!

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find duplicate files

[Bill Humphries]

Hi all,

Any suggestions for a tool that I could use to search for duplicate 
files on a 20tb Xsan?  Although it primarily has Macs attached to it, I 
do have one windows machine.


Thanks.

Bill

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RE: BITS Scheduler

[Joseph L. Casale]

Yeah, saw that one, just a gui wrapper. No remote capabilities...
You have any idea about the recursive ability, doesn't look doable...

Thanks!

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BITS Scheduler

I've never used it, but I recently saw this project discussed:

http://sharpbits.codeplex.com/releases

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale 
[mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BITS Scheduler

Anyone aware of a project which provides the framework to schedule remote bits 
downloads on windows clients and monitor their progress?

Writing a ps script to send the job isn't too hard, but keeping track of them 
all and watching their progress/status might get cumbersome if all done 
manually at the cli.

Also, is there a way to recursively fetch a tree, not just a file?

Thanks!
jlc

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RE: Dell BMC

[John Hornbuckle]

Don't feel bad--I had a time figuring it out myself. I knew there was some way 
to remotely power on/off my Dell servers, but had no clue how to actually do it.

The workstation you're controlling from needs the BMB/IPMI tool installed on 
it. Once it has it, drop to a command prompt and go here:

C:\Program Files\Dell\SysMgt\bmc

(Or wherever you installed it.)

Then run:

ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power status

To query the server for its power status. You'll be prompted for your password, 
although I think you may be able to put that in the command line as well.

If the server is off, use this to turn it on:

ipmitool -I lan -H [your server] -U [your username] -a chassis power on

Now, I may be alone in this, but I always have to run each command twice. The 
first time I run it, I get:

Authentication type NONE not supported
Activate Session command failed
Error: Unable to establish LAN session
Unable to get Chassis Power Status

Then I immediately run it a second time, and it works that time. Happens to me 
every single time.


John



-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one 
semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really 
confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of 
sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really want 
is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to the Dell 
documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't say as the 
documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests you should be 
able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it states something about 
the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage software 
to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't working, or 
I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I saw someplace 
about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and IPMI 
and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide links to 
tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good English, even. 
And did I mention they were free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus many 
of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the various 
tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is 
free too.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise. 

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI 
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software to 
download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to make 
heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the instructions, 
that the software is supposed to be installed on the workstation. The way Dell 
wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed to install the software on 
the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help, so I'm pretty sure you're 
supposed to install it on the "management workstation" to control the server. 
Gotta love folks who write instructions that look like they got translated into 
Spanish, then into Chinese, then to Greek then Russian before getting 
translated BACK to English! SHEESH!



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to 
connect.

Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.

It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple of 
my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us




-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sen

Re: Dell BMC

[Joseph Heaton]

Yes, I know, but more people would recognize it from TV credits.

>>> James Rankin  08/03/11 8:22 AM >>>
Actually it's Roy Scheider's, from *Jaws*

On 3 August 2011 16:07, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> Actually, I was trying to be funny, and reference the closing credits of
> some TV shows.  The production company for one of my favorite shows, House,
> is Bad Hat Harry Productions, and that line is theirs.
>
> >>> Harry Singh  08/02/11 4:53 PM >>>
> My bad. I'm still getting up to speed with the Dell server management
> components, from the Lifecycle Controller to the USC and UEFi it's a bit
> blurry. I'm pretty certain the BMC has a different name since that acronym
> isn't on the R710 or R610's I have.
>
> PS.
>
> Gotta give credit where credit is due: if you're referring to the picture
> associated with my gmail account, that's Paul Newman from Road to
> Perdition.
> Love the movie, character, sartorial aesthitic and Era as a whole.
>
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2011, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
> > Don't think that's accurate.  the DRAC has always been the DRAC (Dell
> Remote Access controller).  The BMC is a monitoring tool, that collects
> motherboard info.
> >
> > Plus,
> >
> > That's some bad hat, Harry.
> >
>  Harry Singh  08/02/11 3:21 PM >>>
> > What's the OS of the server? I had a similiar issue recently, although
> Dell
> > has renamed the BMC to iDRAC, and needed to update the firmware via
> Service
> > Console on my ESX 4.1 server.
> >
> > If it's windows, download the firmware update package for the BMC, apply
> it,
> > reboot and see if that works out.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Kim Longenbaugh <
> k...@colonialsavings.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not familiar with the device, so this may not apply, but here goes:
> >> Is there a place where you have to enable telnet and/or web access?
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:27 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Dell BMC
> >>
> >> Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller?
> I'm
> >> getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone
> in
> >> Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
> >> server so I can get them to help me set it up.
> >>
> >> I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set
> it
> >> up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
> >> "configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled
> IPMI
> >> over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING
> on
> >> that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out.
> >>
> >> If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I
> guess
> >> I'll give Dell a call eventually.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: OT: Ouch - You Stepped on MY Toes!!

[Jonathan Link]

Can anyone tell me how much one of these things costs?

*ducks*

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Daniel Rodriguez  wrote:

> Same here.  ;-(
>
> drod...@gmail.com
> Sent via Dell Streak 7
> On Aug 3, 2011 11:01 AM, "Roger Wright"  wrote:
> > http://dilbert.com/ for 08/03/2011
> >
> >
> > [image: Todays Comic] 
>
> >
> >
> > Roger Wright
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> >
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Re: OT: Ouch - You Stepped on MY Toes!!

[Daniel Rodriguez]

Same here.  ;-(

drod...@gmail.com
Sent via Dell Streak 7
On Aug 3, 2011 11:01 AM, "Roger Wright"  wrote:
> http://dilbert.com/ for 08/03/2011
>
>
> [image: Todays Comic] 
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RE: Serial-to-USB Kit

[Guyer, Don]

Catching up on the list...

I remember pinning these connectors out until my fingers hurt and
cursing whomever purchased them without the pins pre-attached.

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
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-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Serial-to-USB Kit

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:21 AM,   wrote:
> ... I'm looking ... for a kit rather than an adapter ..

  Welcome to the world of RS-232.  Buckle up.

> ... needing a DB-9 female end, and what I've come across so far is all
DB-9 male ...

  RS-232 ports are either DCE (Data Communications Equipment) or DTE
(Data Terminal Equipment).

  Classically, DCE was the modem and DTE was the teletype/dumb terminal.
Since computers classically connected to a modem and emulated a
terminal, computers almost always provide DTE ports.

  The pinouts of DCE vs DTE connectors are different; the cables are
normally straight-through.  If one wishes to connect DTE to DTE (or DCE
to DCE), one has to used a "null modem" cable/adapter, which switches
the pins.  It's analogous to a "crossover cable" from Ethernet.

  Console ports might be either DTE or DCE.  (If they're DTE it's easier
to connect them to a modem for remote access; if they're DCE it's easier
to connect a local terminal.  Some designs went one way, some the
other.)

  When it comes to D-subminiature connectors, almost always, DTE ports
are male, and DCE ports are female.

  Given the sexed nature of RS-232 connectors, a straight-through cable
or adapter will almost always be male on one side, and female on the
other.  Null modem adapters/cables will almost always be the same gender
on both ends.

  One occasionally encounters transvestite ports: Female with DTE
pinout, or male with DCE pinout.

  There are 25-pin and 9-pin flavors of both DTE and DCE ports.  In
almost all cases, we don't care about the extra pins on the 25-pin
connectors.  So the two sizes are equivalent for our purposes.

 Given the above, one might normally expect 25-pin/9-pin adapters to be
straight-forward, but then things get complicated by adapters which are
also null modems or gender changers.

> ... RJ-45 console ports ...

  Be aware that there's no real standard for RS-232 serial on an RJ-45
8-pin connector, so you may need more than one kind of
RJ-45/D-subminiature adapter.

> Anyone know (part number or catalog number especially welcome) of a 
> kit with an assortment of modules so that one can plug one of its end 
> pieces to the end of a cable terminating in a USB at the other end?

  USB and RS-232 are totally different animals, so there is always going
to be an "intelligent" device involved.  Since one typically uses a
USB/RS-232 adapter on a PC, such adapters almost always present a male
DTE port, same as the built-in ports of old.

> ... I'm looking ... for a kit rather than an adapter ..

  Given the above, you're not going to find an easy one-size-fits-all
product.  Typically one treats these as separate problems:

  (!) One has an USB/RS-232 adapter to get an RS-232 port on PCs with
only USB.

  (2) One maintains a fleet of RS-232 adapters.  Typically:

* DCE 25-pin/9-pin
* DTE 25-pin/9-pin
* 25-pin null modem
* 9-pin null modem
* 9-pin female/female gender changer
* 9-pin male/male gender changer
* 25-pin female/female gender changer
* 25-pin male/male gender changer

  Plus whatever RJ-45 variants you need.

  (3) Given the fleet of adapters, you just need some 9-pin straight
cables.  Alternatively, some places decide to use UTP RJ-45 straight
through everywhere (since they already have it for Ethernet), and put
RJ-45-to-D-sub adapters on everything.

  Are we sufficiently confused yet?

-- Ben

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Re: Dell BMC

[James Rankin]

Actually it's Roy Scheider's, from *Jaws*

On 3 August 2011 16:07, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> Actually, I was trying to be funny, and reference the closing credits of
> some TV shows.  The production company for one of my favorite shows, House,
> is Bad Hat Harry Productions, and that line is theirs.
>
> >>> Harry Singh  08/02/11 4:53 PM >>>
> My bad. I'm still getting up to speed with the Dell server management
> components, from the Lifecycle Controller to the USC and UEFi it's a bit
> blurry. I'm pretty certain the BMC has a different name since that acronym
> isn't on the R710 or R610's I have.
>
> PS.
>
> Gotta give credit where credit is due: if you're referring to the picture
> associated with my gmail account, that's Paul Newman from Road to
> Perdition.
> Love the movie, character, sartorial aesthitic and Era as a whole.
>
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2011, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
> > Don't think that's accurate.  the DRAC has always been the DRAC (Dell
> Remote Access controller).  The BMC is a monitoring tool, that collects
> motherboard info.
> >
> > Plus,
> >
> > That's some bad hat, Harry.
> >
>  Harry Singh  08/02/11 3:21 PM >>>
> > What's the OS of the server? I had a similiar issue recently, although
> Dell
> > has renamed the BMC to iDRAC, and needed to update the firmware via
> Service
> > Console on my ESX 4.1 server.
> >
> > If it's windows, download the firmware update package for the BMC, apply
> it,
> > reboot and see if that works out.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Kim Longenbaugh <
> k...@colonialsavings.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not familiar with the device, so this may not apply, but here goes:
> >> Is there a place where you have to enable telnet and/or web access?
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:27 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Dell BMC
> >>
> >> Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller?
> I'm
> >> getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone
> in
> >> Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
> >> server so I can get them to help me set it up.
> >>
> >> I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set
> it
> >> up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
> >> "configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled
> IPMI
> >> over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING
> on
> >> that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out.
> >>
> >> If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I
> guess
> >> I'll give Dell a call eventually.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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RE: Dell BMC

[Steven M. Caesare]

Does he get a medal made in his honor?

 

-sc

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

 

In recognition of his boundless service to the list, I declare to one
and all that from this time forward Michael shall be called Saint
Michael of NTSYSADMIN.

 

Thank you, Michael.

 

Huzzah!

 

 

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Michael B. Smith
 wrote:

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference
between BMC and IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next
several hits provide links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI -
free ones, even. In good English, even. And did I mention they were
free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for
Windows, plus many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client
component (the various tools, especially IPMIview which is run
remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation
I mention is free too.


Regards,

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-Original Message-

From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise.

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
To: NT System Admin
Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues"

Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to
use the IPMI
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the
BMC software
to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that
it's hard to
make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read
in the
instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on
the
workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like
you're supposed
to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be
much help,
so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the
"management
workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write
instructions
that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into
Chinese, then to
Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English!
SHEESH!



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the
IPMI tool to
connect.

Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.

It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago
on a couple
of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the
tool.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us




-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dell BMC

Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management
Controller? I'm
getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold
of anyone in
Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in
front of the
server so I can get them to help me set it up.

I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how
to set it
up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the
prompt for
"configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and
enabled IPMI
over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to
a PING on
that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just
times out.

If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If
not, I guess
I'll give Dell a call eventually.

Thanks!

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RE: old cars (was RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot)

[Joseph Heaton]

Wow, that's a nice looking car Tony. 

>>> Tony Patton  08/03/11 2:10 AM >>>
I normally spend about £65 every 2 weeks, about 200 miles per week for
work.

With the lead foot I average 48mpg, been taking it easy this week and
have
62mpg so far :-)

2litre Skoda Octavia

T

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RE: Dell BMC

[Steven M. Caesare]

Wait.

MSDN for Dell software configuration?

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:57 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
> 
> Michael, et al:
> Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at
least one
> semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is
really
> confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a
lot of
> sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I
really
> want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which,
according to
> the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I
can't
> say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it
suggests
> you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
> states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
> limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
> software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal
isn't
> working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I
think I saw
> someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
> 
> John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?
> 
> The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC
and IPMI
> and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
links to
> tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
English,
> even. And did I mention they were free?
> 
> There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows,
plus
> many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component
(the various
> tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).
> 
> And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I
mention
> is free too.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Dell BMC
> 
> You're not really in a position to criticise.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "John Aldrich" 
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues"  software.com>
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
> 
> Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use
the IPMI
> tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC
> software to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way
that it's
> hard to make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read
in the
> instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
> workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're
supposed
> to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much
help,
> so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
> workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write
instructions
> that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese,
then to
> Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
> 
> As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI
tool to
> connect.
> 
> Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.
> 
> It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a
couple of
> my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.
> 
> 
> 
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Dell BMC
> 
> Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management
Controller?
> I'm getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of
anyone
> in Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front
of the
> server so I can get them to help me set it up.
> 
> I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to
set it up,
> and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
"configure
> remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI over
LAN.
> Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on that
IP address,
> but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out.
> 
> If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I
guess I'll
> give Dell a call ev

Re: Dell BMC

[Joseph Heaton]

Actually, I was trying to be funny, and reference the closing credits of some 
TV shows.  The production company for one of my favorite shows, House, is Bad 
Hat Harry Productions, and that line is theirs.

>>> Harry Singh  08/02/11 4:53 PM >>>
My bad. I'm still getting up to speed with the Dell server management
components, from the Lifecycle Controller to the USC and UEFi it's a bit
blurry. I'm pretty certain the BMC has a different name since that acronym
isn't on the R710 or R610's I have.

PS.

Gotta give credit where credit is due: if you're referring to the picture
associated with my gmail account, that's Paul Newman from Road to Perdition.
Love the movie, character, sartorial aesthitic and Era as a whole.

On Tuesday, August 2, 2011, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
> Don't think that's accurate.  the DRAC has always been the DRAC (Dell
Remote Access controller).  The BMC is a monitoring tool, that collects
motherboard info.
>
> Plus,
>
> That's some bad hat, Harry.
>
 Harry Singh  08/02/11 3:21 PM >>>
> What's the OS of the server? I had a similiar issue recently, although
Dell
> has renamed the BMC to iDRAC, and needed to update the firmware via
Service
> Console on my ESX 4.1 server.
>
> If it's windows, download the firmware update package for the BMC, apply
it,
> reboot and see if that works out.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Kim Longenbaugh wrote:
>
>> I'm not familiar with the device, so this may not apply, but here goes:
>> Is there a place where you have to enable telnet and/or web access?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:27 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Dell BMC
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller?
I'm
>> getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone
in
>> Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
>> server so I can get them to help me set it up.
>>
>> I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set
it
>> up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
>> "configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled
IPMI
>> over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on
>> that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out.
>>
>> If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess
>> I'll give Dell a call eventually.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: old cars (was RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot)

[Cameron]

Gotcha! With 3 turbo bikes I know EXACTLY what you mean!

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Matthew B Ames wrote:

>  Cambelt = timing belt
>
> ** **
>
> VAG TDI service interval was revised from 90k miles down to 60k miles a few
> years ago, so I get to change the belt every 2 years or so.
>
> ** **
>
> The oil pickup is in the bottom of the sump and has a habit of getting
> blocked, especially for engines running on variable servicing (uses
> expensive oil, but means I don’t have to change the oil every 10k).  If the
> pickup gets blocked, then I am sure you can guess the end results can be
> less than pleasant.  This is more of an issue on the VAG 1.8T (petrol) unit,
> which can mean the end of the turbo L
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 03 August 2011 14:52
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: old cars (was RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot)
>
> ** **
>
> 3rd Cam belt? (would that be a timing belt?)...if you have gone through 3
> in 186k I'd be getting rid of that thing in a hurry! What's variable? Oil
> pickup change?
>
>  
>
> Being Canadian, I think there must be some terminoloy differences! :)
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Matthew B Ames 
> wrote:
>
> 1.9TDi 110 Octy mk1 for me with 186k on the clock, with a run between
> Farnborough and Weymouth I can get 61mpg if I drive nicely (well I did when
> I drove back on Monday) – about 50% motorway.  I think the car must be a due
> a service soon, as I run on variable, and tend to get my full 30k.  Guess I
> had better pencil in some work on the car time, as it is due its 3rdcambelt 
> and an oil pickup change too.
> 
>
>  
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Re: Dell BMC

[Jonathan Link]

In recognition of his boundless service to the list, I declare to one and
all that from this time forward Michael shall be called Saint Michael
of NTSYSADMIN.

Thank you, Michael.

Huzzah!


On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

> John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?
>
> The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
> IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
> links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
> English, even. And did I mention they were free?
>
> There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
> many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
> various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).
>
> And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention
> is free too.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Dell BMC
>
> You're not really in a position to criticise.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "John Aldrich" 
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the
> IPMI
> tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
> to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
> make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
> instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
> workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
> to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
> so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
> workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
> that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
> Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool
> to
> connect.
>
> Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.
>
> It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple
> of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Dell BMC
>
> Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm
> getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in
> Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
> server so I can get them to help me set it up.
>
> I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it
> up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
> "configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI
> over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on
> that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out.
>
> If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess
> I'll give Dell a call eventually.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: Dell BMC

[James Rankin]

Have you got the OpenManage agents installed on your Dell servers?

On 3 August 2011 15:57, John Aldrich  wrote:

> Michael, et al:
> Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least
> one
> semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really
> confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of
> sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really
> want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to
> the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't
> say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it
> suggests
> you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
> states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
> limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
> software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't
> working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I
> saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?
>
> The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
> IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
> links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
> English, even. And did I mention they were free?
>
> There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
> many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
> various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).
>
> And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention
> is
> free too.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Dell BMC
>
> You're not really in a position to criticise.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "John Aldrich" 
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the
> IPMI
> tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
> to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
> make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
> instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
> workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
> to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
> so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
> workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
> that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
> Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Dell BMC
>
> As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool
> to
> connect.
>
> Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.
>
> It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple
> of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Dell BMC
>
> Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm
> getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in
> Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
> server so I can get them to help me set it up.
>
> I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it
> up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
> "configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI
> over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on
> that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out.
>
> If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess
> I'll give Dell a call eventually.
>
> Thanks!
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~  

RE: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers

[Michael B. Smith]

Heh. CCNA & CCNP - even if 10 years old (and not current) - they drum certain 
things into you. :-P

Actually (sssh) route.exe will be deprecated with Windows 8, and you'll 
need to do this instead:

netsh int ipv4 show route
netsh int ipv6 show route

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers


And, yes, Domino configs were all dug through last week, first thing.  THEN we 
started working on routes.

Silly, but neither my boss nor I seemed to be familiar with the ROUTE PRINT 
(and above all, ROUTE DELETE) commands.
--
richard


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Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers







Agreed, checking the routing table is the place to start.

After that I would dig into the Domino config -- checking for
connection documents (and the Ports field thereupon), passthru
servers, that kind of stuff.  Although it is unlikely to be a Domino
issue given your other test results.

--Steve

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
> "route print".
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org 
> [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:31 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers
>
>
>
> Greetings!
>
> We have two pair of Domino servers in NYC, and a pair of them in Illiois
> (all Win2003 standard server).  All are Domino 7.0.2 (for which service has
> been discontinued - EOL for that product version).
>
> The way mail flows, all non-company mail addressed to those in Illinois is
> routed through one of the NYC Domino servers.  Consequently, if NYCDOMINO1
> cannot connect to ILNOTES1, then Illinois gets no outside mail.
>
> For the past few years, we have had a WAN connection consisting of two
> bonded T1s (total 3 Mbps).  We now have a new fiber WAN connection (through
> a different vendor) at (currently) 45 Mbps.  All would be well, except for
> this screwy(!) routing issue...
>
> ILNOTES1 (as well as other random IL machines) route to NYCDOMINIO1 through
> the new 45 Mbps pipe (using tracert in a command console).  NYCDOMINO1
> routes to randomly selected IL machines through the new pipe, EXCEPT to
> ILNOTES1.
>
> When we disconnect the old 3 Mbps router (at either the IL or the NYC end)
> and to a tracert ILNOTES1 (by any name or by IP address), it times out with
> the cheerful message "No route found to host".
>
> The Windows network settings (including things like "NETBios over tcp" and
> "Allow lmhosts import") are identical but for host IP address.
>
> I have checked all the files in [admin$]\system32\drivers\etc.  None of the
> files have any entries (other than the defaults one sees whenever installing
> Windows).
>
> Any ideas where to look next?  We would really prefer not continuing to pay
> one vendor for a slow pipe for this single one-way connection.  (We would
> also not like having something this screwy in our network!)
>
> Thanks for any suggestions...
> --
> Richard D. McClary
> Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group
> ASPCA(r)
> 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> Urbana, IL  61802
>
> richardmccl...@aspca.org
>
> P: 217-337-9761
> C: 217-417-1182
> F: 217-337-9761
> www.aspca.org
>

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RE: BITS Scheduler

[Michael B. Smith]

I've never used it, but I recently saw this project discussed:

http://sharpbits.codeplex.com/releases

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BITS Scheduler

Anyone aware of a project which provides the framework to schedule remote bits 
downloads on windows clients and monitor their progress?

Writing a ps script to send the job isn't too hard, but keeping track of them 
all and watching their progress/status might get cumbersome if all done 
manually at the cli.

Also, is there a way to recursively fetch a tree, not just a file?

Thanks!
jlc

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RE: Dell BMC

[John Aldrich]

Michael, et al:
Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one
semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really
confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of
sense to me. I know Dell has "extended" the commands for BMC. All I really
want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to
the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't
say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests
you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it
states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some
limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage
software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't
working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I
saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and
IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide
links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good
English, even. And did I mention they were free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus
many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the
various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is
free too.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise. 

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to
connect.

Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.

It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple
of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us




-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dell BMC

Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm
getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in
Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
server so I can get them to help me set it up.

I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it
up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
"configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI
over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on
that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out.

If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess
I'll give Dell a call eventually.

Thanks!

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RE: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers

[Webster]

ROUTE PRINT used to be covered on the old MS certification exams.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com


From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers


And, yes, Domino configs were all dug through last week, first thing.  THEN we 
started working on routes.

Silly, but neither my boss nor I seemed to be familiar with the ROUTE PRINT 
(and above all, ROUTE DELETE) commands.
--
richard


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Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers







Agreed, checking the routing table is the place to start.

After that I would dig into the Domino config -- checking for
connection documents (and the Ports field thereupon), passthru
servers, that kind of stuff.  Although it is unlikely to be a Domino
issue given your other test results.

--Steve

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
> "route print".
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org 
> [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:31 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers
>
>
>
> Greetings!
>
> We have two pair of Domino servers in NYC, and a pair of them in Illiois
> (all Win2003 standard server).  All are Domino 7.0.2 (for which service has
> been discontinued - EOL for that product version).
>
> The way mail flows, all non-company mail addressed to those in Illinois is
> routed through one of the NYC Domino servers.  Consequently, if NYCDOMINO1
> cannot connect to ILNOTES1, then Illinois gets no outside mail.
>
> For the past few years, we have had a WAN connection consisting of two
> bonded T1s (total 3 Mbps).  We now have a new fiber WAN connection (through
> a different vendor) at (currently) 45 Mbps.  All would be well, except for
> this screwy(!) routing issue...
>
> ILNOTES1 (as well as other random IL machines) route to NYCDOMINIO1 through
> the new 45 Mbps pipe (using tracert in a command console).  NYCDOMINO1
> routes to randomly selected IL machines through the new pipe, EXCEPT to
> ILNOTES1.
>
> When we disconnect the old 3 Mbps router (at either the IL or the NYC end)
> and to a tracert ILNOTES1 (by any name or by IP address), it times out with
> the cheerful message "No route found to host".
>
> The Windows network settings (including things like "NETBios over tcp" and
> "Allow lmhosts import") are identical but for host IP address.
>
> I have checked all the files in [admin$]\system32\drivers\etc.  None of the
> files have any entries (other than the defaults one sees whenever installing
> Windows).
>
> Any ideas where to look next?  We would really prefer not continuing to pay
> one vendor for a slow pipe for this single one-way connection.  (We would
> also not like having something this screwy in our network!)
>
> Thanks for any suggestions...


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Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers

[RichardMcClary]

And, yes, Domino configs were all dug through last week, first thing. THEN 
we started working on routes.

Silly, but neither my boss nor I seemed to be familiar with the ROUTE 
PRINT (and above all, ROUTE DELETE) commands.
--
richard




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Agreed, checking the routing table is the place to start.

After that I would dig into the Domino config -- checking for
connection documents (and the Ports field thereupon), passthru
servers, that kind of stuff.  Although it is unlikely to be a Domino
issue given your other test results.

--Steve

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Michael B. Smith  
wrote:
> ?route print?.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:31 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers
>
>
>
> Greetings!
>
> We have two pair of Domino servers in NYC, and a pair of them in Illiois
> (all Win2003 standard server).  All are Domino 7.0.2 (for which service 
has
> been discontinued - EOL for that product version).
>
> The way mail flows, all non-company mail addressed to those in Illinois 
is
> routed through one of the NYC Domino servers.  Consequently, if 
NYCDOMINO1
> cannot connect to ILNOTES1, then Illinois gets no outside mail.
>
> For the past few years, we have had a WAN connection consisting of two
> bonded T1s (total 3 Mbps).  We now have a new fiber WAN connection 
(through
> a different vendor) at (currently) 45 Mbps.  All would be well, except 
for
> this screwy(!) routing issue...
>
> ILNOTES1 (as well as other random IL machines) route to NYCDOMINIO1 
through
> the new 45 Mbps pipe (using tracert in a command console).  NYCDOMINO1
> routes to randomly selected IL machines through the new pipe, EXCEPT to
> ILNOTES1.
>
> When we disconnect the old 3 Mbps router (at either the IL or the NYC 
end)
> and to a tracert ILNOTES1 (by any name or by IP address), it times out 
with
> the cheerful message "No route found to host".
>
> The Windows network settings (including things like "NETBios over tcp" 
and
> "Allow lmhosts import") are identical but for host IP address.
>
> I have checked all the files in [admin$]\system32\drivers\etc.  None of 
the
> files have any entries (other than the defaults one sees whenever 
installing
> Windows).
>
> Any ideas where to look next?  We would really prefer not continuing to 
pay
> one vendor for a slow pipe for this single one-way connection.  (We 
would
> also not like having something this screwy in our network!)
>
> Thanks for any suggestions...
> --
> Richard D. McClary
> Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group
> ASPCA®
> 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> Urbana, IL  61802
>
> richardmccl...@aspca.org
>
> P: 217-337-9761
> C: 217-417-1182
> F: 217-337-9761
> www.aspca.org
>

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RE: old cars (was RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot)

[Matthew B Ames]

Cambelt = timing belt

VAG TDI service interval was revised from 90k miles down to 60k miles a few 
years ago, so I get to change the belt every 2 years or so.

The oil pickup is in the bottom of the sump and has a habit of getting blocked, 
especially for engines running on variable servicing (uses expensive oil, but 
means I don't have to change the oil every 10k).  If the pickup gets blocked, 
then I am sure you can guess the end results can be less than pleasant.  This 
is more of an issue on the VAG 1.8T (petrol) unit, which can mean the end of 
the turbo :(

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 August 2011 14:52
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: old cars (was RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot)

3rd Cam belt? (would that be a timing belt?)...if you have gone through 3 in 
186k I'd be getting rid of that thing in a hurry! What's variable? Oil pickup 
change?

Being Canadian, I think there must be some terminoloy differences! :)



On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Matthew B Ames 
mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com>> wrote:
1.9TDi 110 Octy mk1 for me with 186k on the clock, with a run between 
Farnborough and Weymouth I can get 61mpg if I drive nicely (well I did when I 
drove back on Monday) - about 50% motorway.  I think the car must be a due a 
service soon, as I run on variable, and tend to get my full 30k.  Guess I had 
better pencil in some work on the car time, as it is due its 3rd cambelt and an 
oil pickup change too.


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RE: VLAN N00b

[Kelsey, John]

Not sure if Dell has a similar function, but in Cisco land you specify an IP 
Helper address so the switch knows where to forward DHCP requests.  That way 
you don't need a DHCP server physically on each VLAN.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VLAN N00b

So...I bought a wireless AP and it looks like I get to delve into learning a 
little VLANing.

Environment:
DNS,DHCP server (2003 SBS server, Domain controller)
Second DC (2003 R2 Server)
SonicWall Firewall
Dell PowerConnect 3448
17 Domain PC's
HP M110 Wireless AP with non-domain PC's using this to get to the Internet.

Desired result for WLAN clients:

* Able to get to the Internet, but not be able to see any domain 
systems.

* DNS configured to non-domain server (SonicWall would be OK)

I can VLAN with the PowerConnect and make it so that AP can only get to the 
firewall, but my issue then is how will any clients get assigned an IP address. 
I can configure the Sonicwall to hand out IP's but then I lose control of IP's 
(reservations, etc) from the SBS system.

It looks like I should divorce DHCP from the SBS server and put it on the 2nd 
DC and allow the AP to see the one DC and the Sonicwall.

Here's a document I found helpful:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pwcnt/en/howto_config_private_vlans.pdf

>From that, the SBS server and all domain PC's would be in Community 10
The AP would be in Community 11
The firewall and 2nd DC (now doing DHCP) would be promiscuous. Is that too big 
of a risk? The HP110 can do RADIUS and I did install that capability on the 2nd 
DC but I don't really know what I'm doing here.

This would get me close to my desired result. Can RADIUS be used to 
conditionally hand out IP addresses? What would be nice is the ability to have 
it so VLAN1 (Community 10 in the diagram) gets some IP settings, VLAN2 
(Community 11) gets others - namely a different DNS server.

All thoughts and comments welcome.
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Re: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers

[RichardMcClary]

Thanks to all...

Michael's suggestion of ROUTE PRINT showed the persistent route 
immediately.  We shall try to whack that shortly...
--
richard




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Agreed, checking the routing table is the place to start.

After that I would dig into the Domino config -- checking for
connection documents (and the Ports field thereupon), passthru
servers, that kind of stuff.  Although it is unlikely to be a Domino
issue given your other test results.

--Steve

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Michael B. Smith  
wrote:
> ?route print?.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:31 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Weird routing between two Lotus Domino servers
>
>
>
> Greetings!
>
> We have two pair of Domino servers in NYC, and a pair of them in Illiois
> (all Win2003 standard server).  All are Domino 7.0.2 (for which service 
has
> been discontinued - EOL for that product version).
>
> The way mail flows, all non-company mail addressed to those in Illinois 
is
> routed through one of the NYC Domino servers.  Consequently, if 
NYCDOMINO1
> cannot connect to ILNOTES1, then Illinois gets no outside mail.
>
> For the past few years, we have had a WAN connection consisting of two
> bonded T1s (total 3 Mbps).  We now have a new fiber WAN connection 
(through
> a different vendor) at (currently) 45 Mbps.  All would be well, except 
for
> this screwy(!) routing issue...
>
> ILNOTES1 (as well as other random IL machines) route to NYCDOMINIO1 
through
> the new 45 Mbps pipe (using tracert in a command console).  NYCDOMINO1
> routes to randomly selected IL machines through the new pipe, EXCEPT to
> ILNOTES1.
>
> When we disconnect the old 3 Mbps router (at either the IL or the NYC 
end)
> and to a tracert ILNOTES1 (by any name or by IP address), it times out 
with
> the cheerful message "No route found to host".
>
> The Windows network settings (including things like "NETBios over tcp" 
and
> "Allow lmhosts import") are identical but for host IP address.
>
> I have checked all the files in [admin$]\system32\drivers\etc.  None of 
the
> files have any entries (other than the defaults one sees whenever 
installing
> Windows).
>
> Any ideas where to look next?  We would really prefer not continuing to 
pay
> one vendor for a slow pipe for this single one-way connection.  (We 
would
> also not like having something this screwy in our network!)
>
> Thanks for any suggestions...
> --
> Richard D. McClary
> Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group
> ASPCA®
> 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> Urbana, IL  61802
>
> richardmccl...@aspca.org
>
> P: 217-337-9761
> C: 217-417-1182
> F: 217-337-9761
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RE: Dell BMC

[Michael B. Smith]

John, did you google "ipmi windows" like I suggested yesterday?

The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and IPMI 
and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide links to 
tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good English, even. 
And did I mention they were free?

There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus many 
of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the various 
tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely).

And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is 
free too.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell BMC

You're not really in a position to criticise. 

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to
connect.

Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.

It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple
of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us




-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dell BMC

Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm
getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in
Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
server so I can get them to help me set it up.

I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it
up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
"configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI
over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on
that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out.

If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess
I'll give Dell a call eventually.

Thanks!

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RE: Open source monitor with Agent

[Joseph L. Casale]

It's called a passive check, Nagios will check the freshness of the update
such that if it hasn't received an update in a specified amount of time
it faults and dispatches an alert.

This allows you to run code locally and send the results formatted which
provides the advantage that you can use native methods to do this without
installing something. I am not a fan of the Nagios clients for windows so
I do this with either snmp or wmi for the active checks and all sorts of other
scripts for the passive locally generated checks.

Now you can use an addon on the Nagios side that receives the update via
HTTP post, or you can write to the Nagios cmd file via remote ssh command
from a limited privileged account etc...

It's very doable.
jlc

-Original Message-
From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Open source monitor with Agent

Morning folks!
Hope everyone is well.

I am familiar with Nagios (somewhat) and how it works but I was
wondering
Is there anything like Nagios that allows you to put an agent on a machine
and have the machine call the server to update?
The downside to Nagios is having to deal with firewall issues, so if there
was something that went outbound, it would be perfect.
I have looked & used SpiceWorks but it just can't do what Nagios does, and
not feasible to run on each workstation by itself.

Thanks for your input.

Dave




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Re: Dell BMC

[Gary Slinger]

You're not really in a position to criticise. 

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to
connect.

Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.

It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple
of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us




-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dell BMC

Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm
getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in
Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
server so I can get them to help me set it up.

I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it
up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
"configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI
over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on
that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out.

If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess
I'll give Dell a call eventually.

Thanks!






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RE: Dell BMC

[John Aldrich]

Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI
tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software
to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to
make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the
instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the
workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed
to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help,
so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the "management
workstation" to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions
that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to
Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH!



-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell BMC

As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to
connect.

Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC.

It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple
of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us




-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dell BMC

Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm
getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in
Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the
server so I can get them to help me set it up.

I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it
up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for
"configure remote access" came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI
over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on
that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out.

If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess
I'll give Dell a call eventually.

Thanks!






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