[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-26 Thread Bruno M. V. Souza
Great! :)

Best
-- Bruno

On 26 ago, 09:48, "Prashant Tiwari (Google)"  wrote:
> While we fix some of the other issues you pointed out, we are happy to
> say that we incorporated one change that some of you suggested. Now,
> whenever a user adds an app, s/he is directly taken to the app
> displayed in its canvas view.
>
> This is live on production, yay!
>
> ~Prashant
>
> On Aug 23, 4:33 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hey Tiago, there are an eta for this plan?
>
> > Best
> > -- Bruno
>
> > On 18 ago, 18:20, "Tiago Silveira (Google)"  wrote:
>
> > > Yes, currently the canvas is the same width as before.
>
> > > Our plan is to let the app change it just like it can change height.

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Re: [orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-26 Thread Prashant Patil
Great update :-)

Regards
Prashant

On 26-Aug-2010 6:18 PM, "Prashant Tiwari (Google)"  wrote:

While we fix some of the other issues you pointed out, we are happy to
say that we incorporated one change that some of you suggested. Now,
whenever a user adds an app, s/he is directly taken to the app
displayed in its canvas view.

This is live on production, yay!

~Prashant

On Aug 23, 4:33 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Tiago, there are an eta for this plan?
>
> Best
> -- Bruno
>
> On 18 ago, 18:20, "Tiago Silveira (Google)"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yes, currently the canvas is the same width as before.
>
> > Our plan is to let the app change it just like it can change height.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-26 Thread Prashant Tiwari (Google)
While we fix some of the other issues you pointed out, we are happy to
say that we incorporated one change that some of you suggested. Now,
whenever a user adds an app, s/he is directly taken to the app
displayed in its canvas view.

This is live on production, yay!

~Prashant

On Aug 23, 4:33 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Tiago, there are an eta for this plan?
>
> Best
> -- Bruno
>
> On 18 ago, 18:20, "Tiago Silveira (Google)"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yes, currently the canvas is the same width as before.
>
> > Our plan is to let the app change it just like it can change height.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-23 Thread Bruno M. V. Souza
Hey Tiago, there are an eta for this plan?

Best
-- Bruno

On 18 ago, 18:20, "Tiago Silveira (Google)"  wrote:
> Yes, currently the canvas is the same width as before.
>
> Our plan is to let the app change it just like it can change height.

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Re: [orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-19 Thread Bruno Souza
This sounds like a good song in my ears! :)

-- Bruno Souza

2010/8/18 Tiago Silveira (Google) 

> Yes, currently the canvas is the same width as before.
>
> Our plan is to let the app change it just like it can change height.
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Re: [orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-19 Thread Bruno Souza
Tiago,

Unfortunately (or not) we already do use that usual caching techniques.
I think we'll need to wait for the concat fix. There are an ETA?
Thanks again for your attention! :)

Best regards
-- Bruno Souza

2010/8/18 Tiago Silveira (Google) 

> Bruno,
>
> concat is broken and will be fixed. Sorry for the trouble.
>
> In the mean time it would be nice to check if your servers are allowing
> aggressive caching by the browser and proxies, by setting the Expires header
> far into the future and the usual techniques. Even with concat, you can save
> a lot of bandwidth for that.
>
> hope that helps,
> tiago
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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-18 Thread anatoly
Tiago, thanks for the update

I somehow expected that we already could take wider space on new
canvas.

By change width do you mean something like gadgets.window.adjustWidth?
this can cause a problem with floating elements (i.e. float:right,
float:left, etc) designs.
I think something like moduleprefs setting or adjustWidth with
explicit width param would be better, IMHO.

When can we expect this option?


thanks


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wrote:
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>
> Our plan is to let the app change it just like it can change height.

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Re: [orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-18 Thread Tiago Silveira (Google)
Thanks, Rene,


#2 is working as intended: we want the profile owner to select only one
app to show on their profile. Hope that's an incentive to write an
amazing profile app.


#1 is a known issue and we'll work on it.


#3 needs more measurements before we can decide, but the whole site is
migrating to expansion at bottom. I personally prefer infinite scroll,
but it seems it isn't as popular.


Thanks for your suggestions.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-18 Thread Tiago Silveira (Google)
Yes, currently the canvas is the same width as before.


Our plan is to let the app change it just like it can change height.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-18 Thread Tiago Silveira (Google)
Bruno,

concat is broken and will be fixed. Sorry for the trouble.


In the mean time it would be nice to check if your servers are allowing
aggressive caching by the browser and proxies, by setting the Expires
header far into the future and the usual techniques. Even with concat,
you can save a lot of bandwidth for that.


hope that helps,
tiago

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-17 Thread Bruno M. V. Souza
Hi Tiago!

Thanks a lot for your attention and sorry for the delay in my
response. :( I was sick.

Last weekend I saw the issues that I noted pulled to orkut.com.
To avoid users to see buggy apps I had to turn off the "content-
rewrite" for tags link and style. Since that happened as I could
expect the requests to our servers increased a lot.
Our team is working on the CSS to see what does the "new" concat
accepts and what it does not, but any help of Orkut team would be very
apreciated. :)

Best regards,
-- Bruno Souza

On 13 ago, 09:01, "Tiago Silveira (Google)"  wrote:
> Hi, Guys.
>
> 1. Anatoly, suggestion noted. You might have noticed the dialogs are
> the old style dialogs. We plan to rewrite them in the new style with
> correct positioning and flash overlay. I guess we should fix the
> positioning first.
>
> 2. Yes, bpc=1 isn't working as expected.
>
> Bruno, somehow I'm unable to reply to specific messages in google
> groups, so here's the answer to the concat question:
>
> Our CSS parser for concat has become a little less resilient to
> errors, and we found one in your CSS:
>
> http://eusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br/meus_times/v2/css_source/canv...
> #carteirinha input.ok{color:#000;height:28px;width:
> 38px;position:absolute;right:10px;top:55px;top:58px\9; *top:61px}
>
> See "top:58px\9;"?
>
> We're improving concat as part of the Caja project. In the meantime,
> fixing this error should get you at least some result.
>
> --Tiago
>
> On Aug 12, 4:46 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > &bpc=1 isn't working yet. You guys confirm the issue?
>
> > Regards,
> > -- Bruno Souza
>
> > On 6 ago, 12:29, "Prashant (Google)"  wrote:
>
> > > It works for me! But I had to refresh the page a few times to get it
> > > to purge the cache. Will have this checked.
>
> > > Prashant
>
> > > On Aug 6, 7:38 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > &bpc=1 is not working here. You guys confirm?
>
> > > > Best regards
> > > > -- Bruno Souza
>
> > > > On 3 ago, 19:01, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
>
> > > > > Thank you all for the great feedback!
>
> > > > > I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
> > > > > some of the issues that showed up:
>
> > > > > 1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break anyone
> > > > > (badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.
>
> > > > > 2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
> > > > > during tests it seemed to work well. Tabs were definitely not the way
> > > > > to go. If the menu is prominent enough for users to find, we believe
> > > > > it will work well. Most of the time people are visiting someone else's
> > > > > profile and looking for other stuff.
>
> > > > > 3. agree that directory UI has poor interaction with each app in the
> > > > > list, we'll get around that.
>
> > > > > 4. we still have some open bugs to fix before wide launch, but the
> > > > > easy stuff (e.g. searching on "Enter") is done.
>
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > --Tiago
>
> > > > > On Aug 2, 1:36 am, brandited  wrote:
>
> > > > > > - Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
> > > > > > but for the user browsing around, I think it's a major lost to have
> > > > > > only one thing chosen. If I chose an application, "my visitor" can't
> > > > > > see my "about me" section. The new "option" button it's better than
> > > > > > before, but it could allow arrange the order of the sections, so I
> > > > > > could choose something like 3 tabs to show.
>
> > > > > > - Is it possible to have an "applications" link besides "start 
> > > > > > profile
> > > > > > communities" links on top?
>
> > > > > > - I agree with others that description was important. At least
> > > > > > something likehttp://www.agame.com/games/new.html, where I can see
> > > > > > the description on mouseover without a server trip.
>
> > > > > > - I should be able to rearrange the app order. The app I use the 
> > > > > > most
> > > > > > is the last, it would be nice to setup it as the first one.
>
> > > > > > - The "createActivity" box could be updated to the new layout rules
> > > > > > (new buttons, bigger font, etc).
>
> > > > > > - Search apps textbox is not working on enter keypress.
>
> > > > > > - On "my apps", when I click the app, I see the description,
> > > > > > screenshot, etc. But to play it, I have to close the box and then
> > > > > > click the play link. Maybe a play link inside the box would help.
>
> > > > > > - On application canvas page, it is a bit annoying to have "Promote"
> > > > > > fixed on app list. I did not choose this app, it seems a little bit
> > > > > > forced.
>
> > > > > > - In orkut interface in general, when I click a dropdown button, the
> > > > > > list appers below. But when I click again, maybe it should hide it 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > list, and not show it again. This is all around, like in the app 
> > > > > > list
> > > > > > on the canvas pa

[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-16 Thread anatoly
To Orkut team


Hey guys. I just rechecked and the app canvas on new orkut is not
wider than before.
You made a wider canvas and that's cool, but it is impossible to make
an app canvas wider to take the whole width, so what gives?


thanks



On Aug 16, 10:30 pm, anatoly  wrote:
> So what is the full canvas width now we can use?
> Anyone knows?
>
> On Aug 16, 9:55 pm, René Tapia  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello, a couple of observations:
>
> > 1) If you go to your profile, the options button (where you can select which
> > app gets displayed in your profile) is displayed with the little triangle
> > pointing downwards only, and the word "options" appears only when you hover
> > over it. I think it would be more discoverable, if you leave the word
> > "options" visible at all times also.
>
> > 2) If you go to someone else's profile you can see only one box (the box
> > that the profile's owner selected), which can be the "Who I am" box, or an
> > app's box. If I am correct, then the visitor has no way to see any of the
> > other boxes. It might be interesting to leave the "options" drop down menu
> > for the visitor also, so he can see the other boxes. However, this can have
> > the inconvenient that the profile owner may not want his visitors to see all
> > his other boxes.
>
> > Thanks and best regards,
> > René
>
> > 2010/8/15 Tiago Silveira (Google) 
>
> > > Hi Eduardo,
>
> > > You did the right thing! Please do not rely on url parameters anymore.
> > > I imagine there's viewer.getField('id') as well?
>
> > > On Aug 13, 7:57 pm, Eduardo Rocha  wrote:
> > > > No. You try what I've posted, so you can check that's the same
> > > > thing ;)
>
> > > > I posted that because I relied on that value to generate links
> > > > (&guid=), but since it's broken, I have fixed the bug using
> > > > owner.getField('id').
>
> > > > On 13 ago, 19:30, Jackson  wrote:
>
> > > > > Eduardo Rocha,
>
> > > > > Try these:
>
> > > > >       var Id_Owner = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetOwner"];
>
> > > > >       var Id_Viewer = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetViewer"];
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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-16 Thread anatoly
So what is the full canvas width now we can use?
Anyone knows?

On Aug 16, 9:55 pm, René Tapia  wrote:
> Hello, a couple of observations:
>
> 1) If you go to your profile, the options button (where you can select which
> app gets displayed in your profile) is displayed with the little triangle
> pointing downwards only, and the word "options" appears only when you hover
> over it. I think it would be more discoverable, if you leave the word
> "options" visible at all times also.
>
> 2) If you go to someone else's profile you can see only one box (the box
> that the profile's owner selected), which can be the "Who I am" box, or an
> app's box. If I am correct, then the visitor has no way to see any of the
> other boxes. It might be interesting to leave the "options" drop down menu
> for the visitor also, so he can see the other boxes. However, this can have
> the inconvenient that the profile owner may not want his visitors to see all
> his other boxes.
>
> Thanks and best regards,
> René
>
> 2010/8/15 Tiago Silveira (Google) 
>
>
>
> > Hi Eduardo,
>
> > You did the right thing! Please do not rely on url parameters anymore.
> > I imagine there's viewer.getField('id') as well?
>
> > On Aug 13, 7:57 pm, Eduardo Rocha  wrote:
> > > No. You try what I've posted, so you can check that's the same
> > > thing ;)
>
> > > I posted that because I relied on that value to generate links
> > > (&guid=), but since it's broken, I have fixed the bug using
> > > owner.getField('id').
>
> > > On 13 ago, 19:30, Jackson  wrote:
>
> > > > Eduardo Rocha,
>
> > > > Try these:
>
> > > >       var Id_Owner = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetOwner"];
>
> > > >       var Id_Viewer = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetViewer"];
>
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Re: [orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-16 Thread René Tapia
One more observation,

3) If you go to the app directory, you will see 16 apps in two columns, and
at the bottom, you will see a button that says "show more apps". If you
click the button, 16 more apps are added at the bottom, and you have to
scroll down to see them. I think it would be easier to navigate the app
directory if you had a "Next Page" and "Previous Page" buttons at the top,
that allows you to see the next 16 apps, or the previous 16 apps, without
having to scroll.

I also forgot to congratulate you for the great work, I specially liked the
new wider canvas page, with the configuration options at the top, and the
configuration pop-up dialogs.

Cheers,
René

2010/8/16 René Tapia 

> Hello, a couple of observations:
>
> 1) If you go to your profile, the options button (where you can select
> which app gets displayed in your profile) is displayed with the little
> triangle pointing downwards only, and the word "options" appears only when
> you hover over it. I think it would be more discoverable, if you leave the
> word "options" visible at all times also.
>
> 2) If you go to someone else's profile you can see only one box (the box
> that the profile's owner selected), which can be the "Who I am" box, or an
> app's box. If I am correct, then the visitor has no way to see any of the
> other boxes. It might be interesting to leave the "options" drop down menu
> for the visitor also, so he can see the other boxes. However, this can have
> the inconvenient that the profile owner may not want his visitors to see all
> his other boxes.
>
> Thanks and best regards,
> René
>
> 2010/8/15 Tiago Silveira (Google) 
>
> Hi Eduardo,
>>
>> You did the right thing! Please do not rely on url parameters anymore.
>> I imagine there's viewer.getField('id') as well?
>>
>> On Aug 13, 7:57 pm, Eduardo Rocha  wrote:
>> > No. You try what I've posted, so you can check that's the same
>> > thing ;)
>> >
>> > I posted that because I relied on that value to generate links
>> > (&guid=), but since it's broken, I have fixed the bug using
>> > owner.getField('id').
>> >
>> > On 13 ago, 19:30, Jackson  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Eduardo Rocha,
>> >
>> > > Try these:
>> >
>> > >   var Id_Owner = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetOwner"];
>> >
>> > >   var Id_Viewer = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetViewer"];
>>
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Re: [orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-16 Thread René Tapia
Hello, a couple of observations:

1) If you go to your profile, the options button (where you can select which
app gets displayed in your profile) is displayed with the little triangle
pointing downwards only, and the word "options" appears only when you hover
over it. I think it would be more discoverable, if you leave the word
"options" visible at all times also.

2) If you go to someone else's profile you can see only one box (the box
that the profile's owner selected), which can be the "Who I am" box, or an
app's box. If I am correct, then the visitor has no way to see any of the
other boxes. It might be interesting to leave the "options" drop down menu
for the visitor also, so he can see the other boxes. However, this can have
the inconvenient that the profile owner may not want his visitors to see all
his other boxes.

Thanks and best regards,
René

2010/8/15 Tiago Silveira (Google) 

> Hi Eduardo,
>
> You did the right thing! Please do not rely on url parameters anymore.
> I imagine there's viewer.getField('id') as well?
>
> On Aug 13, 7:57 pm, Eduardo Rocha  wrote:
> > No. You try what I've posted, so you can check that's the same
> > thing ;)
> >
> > I posted that because I relied on that value to generate links
> > (&guid=), but since it's broken, I have fixed the bug using
> > owner.getField('id').
> >
> > On 13 ago, 19:30, Jackson  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Eduardo Rocha,
> >
> > > Try these:
> >
> > >   var Id_Owner = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetOwner"];
> >
> > >   var Id_Viewer = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetViewer"];
>
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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-15 Thread Tiago Silveira (Google)
Hi Eduardo,

You did the right thing! Please do not rely on url parameters anymore.
I imagine there's viewer.getField('id') as well?

On Aug 13, 7:57 pm, Eduardo Rocha  wrote:
> No. You try what I've posted, so you can check that's the same
> thing ;)
>
> I posted that because I relied on that value to generate links
> (&guid=), but since it's broken, I have fixed the bug using
> owner.getField('id').
>
> On 13 ago, 19:30, Jackson  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Eduardo Rocha,
>
> > Try these:
>
> >       var Id_Owner = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetOwner"];
>
> >       var Id_Viewer = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetViewer"];

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-15 Thread Prashant Patil
Seems to be apps redesign in live now in all profiles! But have some
feedback.

1) After adding application its not redirecting to application canvas!
Expected action is after adding app take a bite of application
application and not just add it.!
2) while clicking on application thumbnail its showing info. Again
expected action is navigate canvas view of app. text link may be place
to view info of application./ edit application settings.
3) again universal directory search is not well managed its there when
we search within my applications, most popular, recently added tab!




On Aug 14, 3:57 am, Eduardo Rocha  wrote:
> No. You try what I've posted, so you can check that's the same
> thing ;)
>
> I posted that because I relied on that value to generate links
> (&guid=), but since it's broken, I have fixed the bug using
> owner.getField('id').
>
> On 13 ago, 19:30, Jackson  wrote:
>
> > Eduardo Rocha,
>
> > Try these:
>
> >       var Id_Owner = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetOwner"];
>
> >       var Id_Viewer = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetViewer"];

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-13 Thread Eduardo Rocha
No. You try what I've posted, so you can check that's the same
thing ;)

I posted that because I relied on that value to generate links
(&guid=), but since it's broken, I have fixed the bug using
owner.getField('id').

On 13 ago, 19:30, Jackson  wrote:
> Eduardo Rocha,
>
> Try these:
>
>       var Id_Owner = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetOwner"];
>
>       var Id_Viewer = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetViewer"];

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-13 Thread Jackson
Eduardo Rocha,

Try these:

  var Id_Owner = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetOwner"];

  var Id_Viewer = gadgets.util.getUrlParameters()["gadgetViewer"];

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-13 Thread Eduardo Rocha
This call returns different if you are using the new orkut or the old
orkut:

gadgets.util.getUrlParameters().gadgetOwner

In the new orkut, the value doesn't seem to be OK.

On 13 ago, 09:01, "Tiago Silveira (Google)"  wrote:
> Hi, Guys.
>
> 1. Anatoly, suggestion noted. You might have noticed the dialogs are
> the old style dialogs. We plan to rewrite them in the new style with
> correct positioning and flash overlay. I guess we should fix the
> positioning first.
>
> 2. Yes, bpc=1 isn't working as expected.
>
> Bruno, somehow I'm unable to reply to specific messages in google
> groups, so here's the answer to the concat question:
>
> Our CSS parser for concat has become a little less resilient to
> errors, and we found one in your CSS:
>
> http://eusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br/meus_times/v2/css_source/canv...
> #carteirinha input.ok{color:#000;height:28px;width:
> 38px;position:absolute;right:10px;top:55px;top:58px\9; *top:61px}
>
> See "top:58px\9;"?
>
> We're improving concat as part of the Caja project. In the meantime,
> fixing this error should get you at least some result.
>
> --Tiago
>
> On Aug 12, 4:46 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > &bpc=1 isn't working yet. You guys confirm the issue?
>
> > Regards,
> > -- Bruno Souza
>
> > On 6 ago, 12:29, "Prashant (Google)"  wrote:
>
> > > It works for me! But I had to refresh the page a few times to get it
> > > to purge the cache. Will have this checked.
>
> > > Prashant
>
> > > On Aug 6, 7:38 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > &bpc=1 is not working here. You guys confirm?
>
> > > > Best regards
> > > > -- Bruno Souza
>
> > > > On 3 ago, 19:01, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
>
> > > > > Thank you all for the great feedback!
>
> > > > > I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
> > > > > some of the issues that showed up:
>
> > > > > 1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break anyone
> > > > > (badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.
>
> > > > > 2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
> > > > > during tests it seemed to work well. Tabs were definitely not the way
> > > > > to go. If the menu is prominent enough for users to find, we believe
> > > > > it will work well. Most of the time people are visiting someone else's
> > > > > profile and looking for other stuff.
>
> > > > > 3. agree that directory UI has poor interaction with each app in the
> > > > > list, we'll get around that.
>
> > > > > 4. we still have some open bugs to fix before wide launch, but the
> > > > > easy stuff (e.g. searching on "Enter") is done.
>
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > --Tiago
>
> > > > > On Aug 2, 1:36 am, brandited  wrote:
>
> > > > > > - Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
> > > > > > but for the user browsing around, I think it's a major lost to have
> > > > > > only one thing chosen. If I chose an application, "my visitor" can't
> > > > > > see my "about me" section. The new "option" button it's better than
> > > > > > before, but it could allow arrange the order of the sections, so I
> > > > > > could choose something like 3 tabs to show.
>
> > > > > > - Is it possible to have an "applications" link besides "start 
> > > > > > profile
> > > > > > communities" links on top?
>
> > > > > > - I agree with others that description was important. At least
> > > > > > something likehttp://www.agame.com/games/new.html, where I can see
> > > > > > the description on mouseover without a server trip.
>
> > > > > > - I should be able to rearrange the app order. The app I use the 
> > > > > > most
> > > > > > is the last, it would be nice to setup it as the first one.
>
> > > > > > - The "createActivity" box could be updated to the new layout rules
> > > > > > (new buttons, bigger font, etc).
>
> > > > > > - Search apps textbox is not working on enter keypress.
>
> > > > > > - On "my apps", when I click the app, I see the description,
> > > > > > screenshot, etc. But to play it, I have to close the box and then
> > > > > > click the play link. Maybe a play link inside the box would help.
>
> > > > > > - On application canvas page, it is a bit annoying to have "Promote"
> > > > > > fixed on app list. I did not choose this app, it seems a little bit
> > > > > > forced.
>
> > > > > > - In orkut interface in general, when I click a dropdown button, the
> > > > > > list appers below. But when I click again, maybe it should hide it 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > list, and not show it again. This is all around, like in the app 
> > > > > > list
> > > > > > on the canvas page.
>
> > > > > > On Aug 1, 8:09 am, anatoly  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Overall it look better, IMHO.
> > > > > > > A couple of concerns and questions.
>
> > > > > > > 1) Does this mean we now have a wider canvas?
> > > > > > > Can we design safely for the new width I mean what chances are it
> > > > > > > might switch to the older width in the future?

[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-13 Thread Tiago Silveira (Google)
Hi, Guys.

1. Anatoly, suggestion noted. You might have noticed the dialogs are
the old style dialogs. We plan to rewrite them in the new style with
correct positioning and flash overlay. I guess we should fix the
positioning first.

2. Yes, bpc=1 isn't working as expected.

Bruno, somehow I'm unable to reply to specific messages in google
groups, so here's the answer to the concat question:

Our CSS parser for concat has become a little less resilient to
errors, and we found one in your CSS:

http://eusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br/meus_times/v2/css_source/canvas_009.css
#carteirinha input.ok{color:#000;height:28px;width:
38px;position:absolute;right:10px;top:55px;top:58px\9; *top:61px}

See "top:58px\9;"?

We're improving concat as part of the Caja project. In the meantime,
fixing this error should get you at least some result.

--Tiago


On Aug 12, 4:46 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> &bpc=1 isn't working yet. You guys confirm the issue?
>
> Regards,
> -- Bruno Souza
>
> On 6 ago, 12:29, "Prashant (Google)"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > It works for me! But I had to refresh the page a few times to get it
> > to purge the cache. Will have this checked.
>
> > Prashant
>
> > On Aug 6, 7:38 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > &bpc=1 is not working here. You guys confirm?
>
> > > Best regards
> > > -- Bruno Souza
>
> > > On 3 ago, 19:01, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
>
> > > > Thank you all for the great feedback!
>
> > > > I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
> > > > some of the issues that showed up:
>
> > > > 1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break anyone
> > > > (badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.
>
> > > > 2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
> > > > during tests it seemed to work well. Tabs were definitely not the way
> > > > to go. If the menu is prominent enough for users to find, we believe
> > > > it will work well. Most of the time people are visiting someone else's
> > > > profile and looking for other stuff.
>
> > > > 3. agree that directory UI has poor interaction with each app in the
> > > > list, we'll get around that.
>
> > > > 4. we still have some open bugs to fix before wide launch, but the
> > > > easy stuff (e.g. searching on "Enter") is done.
>
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > --Tiago
>
> > > > On Aug 2, 1:36 am, brandited  wrote:
>
> > > > > - Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
> > > > > but for the user browsing around, I think it's a major lost to have
> > > > > only one thing chosen. If I chose an application, "my visitor" can't
> > > > > see my "about me" section. The new "option" button it's better than
> > > > > before, but it could allow arrange the order of the sections, so I
> > > > > could choose something like 3 tabs to show.
>
> > > > > - Is it possible to have an "applications" link besides "start profile
> > > > > communities" links on top?
>
> > > > > - I agree with others that description was important. At least
> > > > > something likehttp://www.agame.com/games/new.html, where I can see
> > > > > the description on mouseover without a server trip.
>
> > > > > - I should be able to rearrange the app order. The app I use the most
> > > > > is the last, it would be nice to setup it as the first one.
>
> > > > > - The "createActivity" box could be updated to the new layout rules
> > > > > (new buttons, bigger font, etc).
>
> > > > > - Search apps textbox is not working on enter keypress.
>
> > > > > - On "my apps", when I click the app, I see the description,
> > > > > screenshot, etc. But to play it, I have to close the box and then
> > > > > click the play link. Maybe a play link inside the box would help.
>
> > > > > - On application canvas page, it is a bit annoying to have "Promote"
> > > > > fixed on app list. I did not choose this app, it seems a little bit
> > > > > forced.
>
> > > > > - In orkut interface in general, when I click a dropdown button, the
> > > > > list appers below. But when I click again, maybe it should hide it the
> > > > > list, and not show it again. This is all around, like in the app list
> > > > > on the canvas page.
>
> > > > > On Aug 1, 8:09 am, anatoly  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Overall it look better, IMHO.
> > > > > > A couple of concerns and questions.
>
> > > > > > 1) Does this mean we now have a wider canvas?
> > > > > > Can we design safely for the new width I mean what chances are it
> > > > > > might switch to the older width in the future?
>
> > > > > > 2) Selecting/checking profile view with select box + radio buttons
> > > > > > seems very confusing.
>
> > > > > > 3) I agree with previous comments that description is needed in the
> > > > > > app directory. Name + thumbnail are not enough.
>
> > > > > > 4) Orkut in sandbox in IE is not rendering correctly for me on IE 8
> > > > > > win 7 with pretty standard configuration.
> > > > > > OK on FF. I've already sent a screens

[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-12 Thread Bruno M. V. Souza
Hi,

&bpc=1 isn't working yet. You guys confirm the issue?

Regards,
-- Bruno Souza

On 6 ago, 12:29, "Prashant (Google)"  wrote:
> It works for me! But I had to refresh the page a few times to get it
> to purge the cache. Will have this checked.
>
> Prashant
>
> On Aug 6, 7:38 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > &bpc=1 is not working here. You guys confirm?
>
> > Best regards
> > -- Bruno Souza
>
> > On 3 ago, 19:01, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
>
> > > Thank you all for the great feedback!
>
> > > I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
> > > some of the issues that showed up:
>
> > > 1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break anyone
> > > (badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.
>
> > > 2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
> > > during tests it seemed to work well. Tabs were definitely not the way
> > > to go. If the menu is prominent enough for users to find, we believe
> > > it will work well. Most of the time people are visiting someone else's
> > > profile and looking for other stuff.
>
> > > 3. agree that directory UI has poor interaction with each app in the
> > > list, we'll get around that.
>
> > > 4. we still have some open bugs to fix before wide launch, but the
> > > easy stuff (e.g. searching on "Enter") is done.
>
> > > Best regards,
> > > --Tiago
>
> > > On Aug 2, 1:36 am, brandited  wrote:
>
> > > > - Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
> > > > but for the user browsing around, I think it's a major lost to have
> > > > only one thing chosen. If I chose an application, "my visitor" can't
> > > > see my "about me" section. The new "option" button it's better than
> > > > before, but it could allow arrange the order of the sections, so I
> > > > could choose something like 3 tabs to show.
>
> > > > - Is it possible to have an "applications" link besides "start profile
> > > > communities" links on top?
>
> > > > - I agree with others that description was important. At least
> > > > something likehttp://www.agame.com/games/new.html, where I can see
> > > > the description on mouseover without a server trip.
>
> > > > - I should be able to rearrange the app order. The app I use the most
> > > > is the last, it would be nice to setup it as the first one.
>
> > > > - The "createActivity" box could be updated to the new layout rules
> > > > (new buttons, bigger font, etc).
>
> > > > - Search apps textbox is not working on enter keypress.
>
> > > > - On "my apps", when I click the app, I see the description,
> > > > screenshot, etc. But to play it, I have to close the box and then
> > > > click the play link. Maybe a play link inside the box would help.
>
> > > > - On application canvas page, it is a bit annoying to have "Promote"
> > > > fixed on app list. I did not choose this app, it seems a little bit
> > > > forced.
>
> > > > - In orkut interface in general, when I click a dropdown button, the
> > > > list appers below. But when I click again, maybe it should hide it the
> > > > list, and not show it again. This is all around, like in the app list
> > > > on the canvas page.
>
> > > > On Aug 1, 8:09 am, anatoly  wrote:
>
> > > > > Overall it look better, IMHO.
> > > > > A couple of concerns and questions.
>
> > > > > 1) Does this mean we now have a wider canvas?
> > > > > Can we design safely for the new width I mean what chances are it
> > > > > might switch to the older width in the future?
>
> > > > > 2) Selecting/checking profile view with select box + radio buttons
> > > > > seems very confusing.
>
> > > > > 3) I agree with previous comments that description is needed in the
> > > > > app directory. Name + thumbnail are not enough.
>
> > > > > 4) Orkut in sandbox in IE is not rendering correctly for me on IE 8
> > > > > win 7 with pretty standard configuration.
> > > > > OK on FF. I've already sent a screenshot to orkut team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-12 Thread anatoly
Hi Tiago


Activity dialogs are opened at the top of the page and most of the
time not in the visible area.
If the canvas is tall and user scrolled the page a bit.
This can cause activities to be not posted/ignored.

This worked fine on a previous canvas version.
I mentioned this earlier in this thread but it is not fixed.

please check it


thanks



On Aug 12, 9:36 pm, t...@google.com wrote:
> The appParams bug seems is confirmed, I'm getting a "try again"
> message. It's also happening on sandbox.
>
> I could also reproduce the theme bug with guid.
>
> Many thanks! Too bad we didn't detect these while it was in
> sandbox... :-/
>
> Best regards,
> --Tiago

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Re: [orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-12 Thread tms
The appParams bug seems is confirmed, I'm getting a "try again"
message. It's also happening on sandbox.



I could also reproduce the theme bug with guid.


Many thanks! Too bad we didn't detect these while it was in
sandbox... :-/


Best regards,
--Tiago

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Re: [orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-12 Thread tms
Confirmed, concat is broken. Fix is underway.

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Re: [orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-12 Thread Bruno Souza
Some bugs that I observed over production (orkut.com.br):

1) appParams seems to be not working. Ex:
http://www.orkut.com.br/Application?appId=193620245369&guid=12854615542530314212&appParams={
"pagina":"carteirinha"}

2) App links with guid parameter always load the default orkut theme. Ex:
User theme http://www.orkut.com.br/Application?appId=193620245369, default
theme:
http://www.orkut.com.br/Application?appId=193620245369&guid=12854615542530314212

Do you guys confirm these issues?

Regards
-- Bruno Souza


2010/8/12 Bruno Souza <241...@gmail.com>

> Hi all,
>
> The gadget iframe width is being always set 835px.
> There is a way to use whole box width?
>
> .GHVDGV3BCN {
>   border:medium none;
>   display:block;
>   height:600px;
>   margin:0 auto;
>   width:835px;
> }
>
> Thanks in advance
> -- Bruno Souza
>
> 2010/8/11 Bruno Souza <241...@gmail.com>
>
> Hi Prashant,
>>
>> Yes. =/
>>
>> Regarding the first one (Sou Cruzeiro!):
>>
>> Concat url on sandbox.orkut (404 not found):
>>
>> http://www.sandbox.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concat?refresh=86400&container=orkut-sandbox&rewriteMime=text/css&gadget=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fcruzeiro.xml&fp=-300092023&container=orkut-sandbox&refresh=86400&1=http%3A%2F%2Feusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fv2%2Fcss_source%2Fcanvas_009.css&2=http%3A%2F%2Feusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fv2%2Fcss_source%2Fcruzeiro-v2.css
>>
>> Concat url on orkut.com (200 success):
>>
>> http://www.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concat?refresh=86400&container=orkut&rewriteMime=text/css&gadget=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fcruzeiro.xml&fp=-300092023&container=orkut&nocache=1&refresh=86400&1=http%3A%2F%2Feusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fv2%2Fcss_source%2Fcanvas_009.css&2=http%3A%2F%2Feusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fv2%2Fcss_source%2Fcruzeiro-v2.css
>>
>> Please take a look at the screenshot. I think it could explain better than
>> I. :-)
>> Screenshot: http://a.imageshack.us/img716/976/concatproblemsoucruzeir.jpg
>>
>> Regarding the second one (Minha Música):
>>
>> I was wrong about the 400 error. On Minha Música it returns 200 success,
>> but does not merge all the files passed as parameters.
>> Screenshot:
>> http://a.imageshack.us/img821/7285/concatproblemminhamusic.jpg
>>
>> Concat url on sandbox.orkut (200 success with the content of only one css
>> file):
>>
>> http://www.sandbox.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concat?refresh=86400&container=orkut-sandbox&rewriteMime=text/css&gadget=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.studiosol.com.br%2FminhaMusica.xml&fp=727770853&container=orkut-sandbox&refresh=86400&1=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Fperfil_css-min.css&2=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Finterna_css.css&3=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Fcolormixer.css
>>
>> Concat url on orkut.com (200 success with the content of all css files):
>>
>> http://www.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concat?refresh=86400&container=orkut&rewriteMime=text/css&gadget=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.studiosol.com.br%2FminhaMusica.xml&fp=727770853&container=orkut&nocache=1&refresh=86400&1=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Fperfil_css-min.css&2=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Finterna_css.css&3=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Fcolormixer.css
>>
>> Please let me know if I have been clear enough. :-)
>>
>> Best regards,
>> -- Bruno Souza
>>
>> 2010/8/10 Prashant (Google) 
>>
>> Hi Bruno,
>>>
>>> I'm not experiencing this, at least not now for the apps you
>>> mentioned. Are you still?
>>>
>>> ~Prashant
>>>
>>> On Aug 6, 10:41 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > http://www.sandbox.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concatis not working
>>> > properly here (some erros occurred).
>>> >
>>> > Apps that I tested:
>>> > -http://sandbox.orkut.com.br/Application?appId=193620245369&bpc=1-
>>> > It returns 404 error
>>> > -http://sandbox.orkut.com.br/Application?appId=831537538723&bpc=1-
>>> > it returns 400 error and an incomplete css (only the first >> > type="text/css"> is returned).
>>> >
>>> > In orkut.com It works fine on both apps.
>>> >
>>> > You guys confirm this issue?
>>> >
>>> > Best regards
>>> > -- Bruno Souza
>>> >
>>> > On 3 ago, 19:01, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Thank you all for the great feedback!
>>> >
>>> > > I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
>>> > > some of the issues that showed up:
>>> >
>>> > > 1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break
>>> anyone
>>> > > (badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.
>>> >
>>> > > 2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
>>> > > during tests it see

Re: [orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-12 Thread Bruno Souza
Hi all,

The gadget iframe width is being always set 835px.
There is a way to use whole box width?

.GHVDGV3BCN {
  border:medium none;
  display:block;
  height:600px;
  margin:0 auto;
  width:835px;
}

Thanks in advance
-- Bruno Souza

2010/8/11 Bruno Souza <241...@gmail.com>

> Hi Prashant,
>
> Yes. =/
>
> Regarding the first one (Sou Cruzeiro!):
>
> Concat url on sandbox.orkut (404 not found):
>
> http://www.sandbox.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concat?refresh=86400&container=orkut-sandbox&rewriteMime=text/css&gadget=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fcruzeiro.xml&fp=-300092023&container=orkut-sandbox&refresh=86400&1=http%3A%2F%2Feusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fv2%2Fcss_source%2Fcanvas_009.css&2=http%3A%2F%2Feusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fv2%2Fcss_source%2Fcruzeiro-v2.css
>
> Concat url on orkut.com (200 success):
>
> http://www.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concat?refresh=86400&container=orkut&rewriteMime=text/css&gadget=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fcruzeiro.xml&fp=-300092023&container=orkut&nocache=1&refresh=86400&1=http%3A%2F%2Feusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fv2%2Fcss_source%2Fcanvas_009.css&2=http%3A%2F%2Feusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fv2%2Fcss_source%2Fcruzeiro-v2.css
>
> Please take a look at the screenshot. I think it could explain better than
> I. :-)
> Screenshot: http://a.imageshack.us/img716/976/concatproblemsoucruzeir.jpg
>
> Regarding the second one (Minha Música):
>
> I was wrong about the 400 error. On Minha Música it returns 200 success,
> but does not merge all the files passed as parameters.
> Screenshot: http://a.imageshack.us/img821/7285/concatproblemminhamusic.jpg
>
> Concat url on sandbox.orkut (200 success with the content of only one css
> file):
>
> http://www.sandbox.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concat?refresh=86400&container=orkut-sandbox&rewriteMime=text/css&gadget=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.studiosol.com.br%2FminhaMusica.xml&fp=727770853&container=orkut-sandbox&refresh=86400&1=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Fperfil_css-min.css&2=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Finterna_css.css&3=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Fcolormixer.css
>
> Concat url on orkut.com (200 success with the content of all css files):
>
> http://www.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concat?refresh=86400&container=orkut&rewriteMime=text/css&gadget=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.studiosol.com.br%2FminhaMusica.xml&fp=727770853&container=orkut&nocache=1&refresh=86400&1=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Fperfil_css-min.css&2=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Finterna_css.css&3=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Fcolormixer.css
>
> Please let me know if I have been clear enough. :-)
>
> Best regards,
> -- Bruno Souza
>
> 2010/8/10 Prashant (Google) 
>
> Hi Bruno,
>>
>> I'm not experiencing this, at least not now for the apps you
>> mentioned. Are you still?
>>
>> ~Prashant
>>
>> On Aug 6, 10:41 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > http://www.sandbox.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concatis not working
>> > properly here (some erros occurred).
>> >
>> > Apps that I tested:
>> > -http://sandbox.orkut.com.br/Application?appId=193620245369&bpc=1-
>> > It returns 404 error
>> > -http://sandbox.orkut.com.br/Application?appId=831537538723&bpc=1-
>> > it returns 400 error and an incomplete css (only the first > > type="text/css"> is returned).
>> >
>> > In orkut.com It works fine on both apps.
>> >
>> > You guys confirm this issue?
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> > -- Bruno Souza
>> >
>> > On 3 ago, 19:01, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Thank you all for the great feedback!
>> >
>> > > I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
>> > > some of the issues that showed up:
>> >
>> > > 1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break anyone
>> > > (badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.
>> >
>> > > 2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
>> > > during tests it seemed to work well. Tabs were definitely not the way
>> > > to go. If the menu is prominent enough for users to find, we believe
>> > > it will work well. Most of the time people are visiting someone else's
>> > > profile and looking for other stuff.
>> >
>> > > 3. agree that directory UI has poor interaction with eachappin the
>> > > list, we'll get around that.
>> >
>> > > 4. we still have some open bugs to fix before wide launch, but the
>> > > easy stuff (e.g. searching on "Enter") is done.
>> >
>> > > Best regards,
>> > > --Tiago
>> >
>> > > On Aug 2, 1:36 am, brandited  wrote:
>> >
>> > > > - Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
>> > 

Re: [orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-11 Thread Bruno Souza
Hi Prashant,

Yes. =/

Regarding the first one (Sou Cruzeiro!):

Concat url on sandbox.orkut (404 not found):
http://www.sandbox.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concat?refresh=86400&container=orkut-sandbox&rewriteMime=text/css&gadget=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fcruzeiro.xml&fp=-300092023&container=orkut-sandbox&refresh=86400&1=http%3A%2F%2Feusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fv2%2Fcss_source%2Fcanvas_009.css&2=http%3A%2F%2Feusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fv2%2Fcss_source%2Fcruzeiro-v2.css

Concat url on orkut.com (200 success):
http://www.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concat?refresh=86400&container=orkut&rewriteMime=text/css&gadget=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fcruzeiro.xml&fp=-300092023&container=orkut&nocache=1&refresh=86400&1=http%3A%2F%2Feusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fv2%2Fcss_source%2Fcanvas_009.css&2=http%3A%2F%2Feusou-aKyg.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fmeus_times%2Fv2%2Fcss_source%2Fcruzeiro-v2.css

Please take a look at the screenshot. I think it could explain better than
I. :-)
Screenshot: http://a.imageshack.us/img716/976/concatproblemsoucruzeir.jpg

Regarding the second one (Minha Música):

I was wrong about the 400 error. On Minha Música it returns 200 success, but
does not merge all the files passed as parameters.
Screenshot: http://a.imageshack.us/img821/7285/concatproblemminhamusic.jpg

Concat url on sandbox.orkut (200 success with the content of only one css
file):
http://www.sandbox.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concat?refresh=86400&container=orkut-sandbox&rewriteMime=text/css&gadget=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.studiosol.com.br%2FminhaMusica.xml&fp=727770853&container=orkut-sandbox&refresh=86400&1=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Fperfil_css-min.css&2=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Finterna_css.css&3=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Fcolormixer.css

Concat url on orkut.com (200 success with the content of all css files):
http://www.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concat?refresh=86400&container=orkut&rewriteMime=text/css&gadget=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.studiosol.com.br%2FminhaMusica.xml&fp=727770853&container=orkut&nocache=1&refresh=86400&1=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Fperfil_css-min.css&2=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Finterna_css.css&3=http%3A%2F%2Fsemcache--2721318631622297087.apps.studiosol.com.br%2Fminha_musica_v2%2Fcss%2Fcolormixer.css

Please let me know if I have been clear enough. :-)

Best regards,
-- Bruno Souza

2010/8/10 Prashant (Google) 

> Hi Bruno,
>
> I'm not experiencing this, at least not now for the apps you
> mentioned. Are you still?
>
> ~Prashant
>
> On Aug 6, 10:41 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://www.sandbox.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concatis not working
> > properly here (some erros occurred).
> >
> > Apps that I tested:
> > -http://sandbox.orkut.com.br/Application?appId=193620245369&bpc=1-
> > It returns 404 error
> > -http://sandbox.orkut.com.br/Application?appId=831537538723&bpc=1-
> > it returns 400 error and an incomplete css (only the first  > type="text/css"> is returned).
> >
> > In orkut.com It works fine on both apps.
> >
> > You guys confirm this issue?
> >
> > Best regards
> > -- Bruno Souza
> >
> > On 3 ago, 19:01, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Thank you all for the great feedback!
> >
> > > I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
> > > some of the issues that showed up:
> >
> > > 1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break anyone
> > > (badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.
> >
> > > 2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
> > > during tests it seemed to work well. Tabs were definitely not the way
> > > to go. If the menu is prominent enough for users to find, we believe
> > > it will work well. Most of the time people are visiting someone else's
> > > profile and looking for other stuff.
> >
> > > 3. agree that directory UI has poor interaction with eachappin the
> > > list, we'll get around that.
> >
> > > 4. we still have some open bugs to fix before wide launch, but the
> > > easy stuff (e.g. searching on "Enter") is done.
> >
> > > Best regards,
> > > --Tiago
> >
> > > On Aug 2, 1:36 am, brandited  wrote:
> >
> > > > - Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
> > > > but for the user browsing around, I think it's a major lost to have
> > > > only one thing chosen. If I chose an application, "my visitor" can't
> > > > see my "about me" section. The new "option" button it's better than
> > > > before, but it could allow arrange the order of the sections, so I
> > > > could choose something like 3 tabs to show.
> >
> > > > - Is it possible to have an "applicati

[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-10 Thread Prashant (Google)
Hi Bruno,

I'm not experiencing this, at least not now for the apps you
mentioned. Are you still?

~Prashant

On Aug 6, 10:41 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.sandbox.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concatis not working
> properly here (some erros occurred).
>
> Apps that I tested:
> -http://sandbox.orkut.com.br/Application?appId=193620245369&bpc=1-
> It returns 404 error
> -http://sandbox.orkut.com.br/Application?appId=831537538723&bpc=1-
> it returns 400 error and an incomplete css (only the first  type="text/css"> is returned).
>
> In orkut.com It works fine on both apps.
>
> You guys confirm this issue?
>
> Best regards
> -- Bruno Souza
>
> On 3 ago, 19:01, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thank you all for the great feedback!
>
> > I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
> > some of the issues that showed up:
>
> > 1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break anyone
> > (badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.
>
> > 2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
> > during tests it seemed to work well. Tabs were definitely not the way
> > to go. If the menu is prominent enough for users to find, we believe
> > it will work well. Most of the time people are visiting someone else's
> > profile and looking for other stuff.
>
> > 3. agree that directory UI has poor interaction with eachappin the
> > list, we'll get around that.
>
> > 4. we still have some open bugs to fix before wide launch, but the
> > easy stuff (e.g. searching on "Enter") is done.
>
> > Best regards,
> > --Tiago
>
> > On Aug 2, 1:36 am, brandited  wrote:
>
> > > - Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
> > > but for the user browsing around, I think it's a major lost to have
> > > only one thing chosen. If I chose an application, "my visitor" can't
> > > see my "about me" section. The new "option" button it's better than
> > > before, but it could allow arrange the order of the sections, so I
> > > could choose something like 3 tabs to show.
>
> > > - Is it possible to have an "applications" link besides "start profile
> > > communities" links on top?
>
> > > - I agree with others that description was important. At least
> > > something likehttp://www.agame.com/games/new.html, where I can see
> > > the description on mouseover without a server trip.
>
> > > - I should be able to rearrange theapporder. TheappI use the most
> > > is the last, it would be nice to setup it as the first one.
>
> > > - The "createActivity" box could be updated to the new layout rules
> > > (new buttons, bigger font, etc).
>
> > > - Search apps textbox is not working on enter keypress.
>
> > > - On "my apps", when I click theapp, I see the description,
> > > screenshot, etc. But to play it, I have to close the box and then
> > > click the play link. Maybe a play link inside the box would help.
>
> > > - On application canvas page, it is a bit annoying to have "Promote"
> > > fixed onapplist. I did not choose thisapp, it seems a little bit
> > > forced.
>
> > > - In orkut interface in general, when I click a dropdown button, the
> > > list appers below. But when I click again, maybe it should hide it the
> > > list, and not show it again. This is all around, like in theapplist
> > > on the canvas page.
>
> > > On Aug 1, 8:09 am, anatoly  wrote:
>
> > > > Overall it look better, IMHO.
> > > > A couple of concerns and questions.
>
> > > > 1) Does this mean we now have a wider canvas?
> > > > Can we design safely for the new width I mean what chances are it
> > > > might switch to the older width in the future?
>
> > > > 2) Selecting/checking profile view with select box + radio buttons
> > > > seems very confusing.
>
> > > > 3) I agree with previous comments that description is needed in the
> > > >appdirectory. Name + thumbnail are not enough.
>
> > > > 4) Orkut insandboxin IE is not rendering correctly for me on IE 8
> > > > win 7 with pretty standard configuration.
> > > > OK on FF. I've already sent a screenshot to orkut team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-06 Thread Bruno M. V. Souza
http://www.sandbox.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets/concat is not working
properly here (some erros occurred).

Apps that I tested:
- http://sandbox.orkut.com.br/Application?appId=193620245369&bpc=1 -
It returns 404 error
- http://sandbox.orkut.com.br/Application?appId=831537538723&bpc=1 -
it returns 400 error and an incomplete css (only the first  is returned).

In orkut.com It works fine on both apps.

You guys confirm this issue?

Best regards
-- Bruno Souza

On 3 ago, 19:01, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
> Thank you all for the great feedback!
>
> I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
> some of the issues that showed up:
>
> 1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break anyone
> (badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.
>
> 2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
> during tests it seemed to work well. Tabs were definitely not the way
> to go. If the menu is prominent enough for users to find, we believe
> it will work well. Most of the time people are visiting someone else's
> profile and looking for other stuff.
>
> 3. agree that directory UI has poor interaction with each app in the
> list, we'll get around that.
>
> 4. we still have some open bugs to fix before wide launch, but the
> easy stuff (e.g. searching on "Enter") is done.
>
> Best regards,
> --Tiago
>
> On Aug 2, 1:36 am, brandited  wrote:
>
> > - Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
> > but for the user browsing around, I think it's a major lost to have
> > only one thing chosen. If I chose an application, "my visitor" can't
> > see my "about me" section. The new "option" button it's better than
> > before, but it could allow arrange the order of the sections, so I
> > could choose something like 3 tabs to show.
>
> > - Is it possible to have an "applications" link besides "start profile
> > communities" links on top?
>
> > - I agree with others that description was important. At least
> > something likehttp://www.agame.com/games/new.html, where I can see
> > the description on mouseover without a server trip.
>
> > - I should be able to rearrange the app order. The app I use the most
> > is the last, it would be nice to setup it as the first one.
>
> > - The "createActivity" box could be updated to the new layout rules
> > (new buttons, bigger font, etc).
>
> > - Search apps textbox is not working on enter keypress.
>
> > - On "my apps", when I click the app, I see the description,
> > screenshot, etc. But to play it, I have to close the box and then
> > click the play link. Maybe a play link inside the box would help.
>
> > - On application canvas page, it is a bit annoying to have "Promote"
> > fixed on app list. I did not choose this app, it seems a little bit
> > forced.
>
> > - In orkut interface in general, when I click a dropdown button, the
> > list appers below. But when I click again, maybe it should hide it the
> > list, and not show it again. This is all around, like in the app list
> > on the canvas page.
>
> > On Aug 1, 8:09 am, anatoly  wrote:
>
> > > Overall it look better, IMHO.
> > > A couple of concerns and questions.
>
> > > 1) Does this mean we now have a wider canvas?
> > > Can we design safely for the new width I mean what chances are it
> > > might switch to the older width in the future?
>
> > > 2) Selecting/checking profile view with select box + radio buttons
> > > seems very confusing.
>
> > > 3) I agree with previous comments that description is needed in the
> > > app directory. Name + thumbnail are not enough.
>
> > > 4) Orkut in sandbox in IE is not rendering correctly for me on IE 8
> > > win 7 with pretty standard configuration.
> > > OK on FF. I've already sent a screenshot to orkut team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-06 Thread Bruno M. V. Souza
:-) Thanks Prashant!

Best regards
-- Bruno Souza

On 6 ago, 12:29, "Prashant (Google)"  wrote:
> It works for me! But I had to refresh the page a few times to get it
> to purge the cache. Will have this checked.
>
> Prashant
>
> On Aug 6, 7:38 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > &bpc=1 is not working here. You guys confirm?
>
> > Best regards
> > -- Bruno Souza
>
> > On 3 ago, 19:01, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
>
> > > Thank you all for the great feedback!
>
> > > I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
> > > some of the issues that showed up:
>
> > > 1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break anyone
> > > (badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.
>
> > > 2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
> > > during tests it seemed to work well. Tabs were definitely not the way
> > > to go. If the menu is prominent enough for users to find, we believe
> > > it will work well. Most of the time people are visiting someone else's
> > > profile and looking for other stuff.
>
> > > 3. agree that directory UI has poor interaction with each app in the
> > > list, we'll get around that.
>
> > > 4. we still have some open bugs to fix before wide launch, but the
> > > easy stuff (e.g. searching on "Enter") is done.
>
> > > Best regards,
> > > --Tiago
>
> > > On Aug 2, 1:36 am, brandited  wrote:
>
> > > > - Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
> > > > but for the user browsing around, I think it's a major lost to have
> > > > only one thing chosen. If I chose an application, "my visitor" can't
> > > > see my "about me" section. The new "option" button it's better than
> > > > before, but it could allow arrange the order of the sections, so I
> > > > could choose something like 3 tabs to show.
>
> > > > - Is it possible to have an "applications" link besides "start profile
> > > > communities" links on top?
>
> > > > - I agree with others that description was important. At least
> > > > something likehttp://www.agame.com/games/new.html, where I can see
> > > > the description on mouseover without a server trip.
>
> > > > - I should be able to rearrange the app order. The app I use the most
> > > > is the last, it would be nice to setup it as the first one.
>
> > > > - The "createActivity" box could be updated to the new layout rules
> > > > (new buttons, bigger font, etc).
>
> > > > - Search apps textbox is not working on enter keypress.
>
> > > > - On "my apps", when I click the app, I see the description,
> > > > screenshot, etc. But to play it, I have to close the box and then
> > > > click the play link. Maybe a play link inside the box would help.
>
> > > > - On application canvas page, it is a bit annoying to have "Promote"
> > > > fixed on app list. I did not choose this app, it seems a little bit
> > > > forced.
>
> > > > - In orkut interface in general, when I click a dropdown button, the
> > > > list appers below. But when I click again, maybe it should hide it the
> > > > list, and not show it again. This is all around, like in the app list
> > > > on the canvas page.
>
> > > > On Aug 1, 8:09 am, anatoly  wrote:
>
> > > > > Overall it look better, IMHO.
> > > > > A couple of concerns and questions.
>
> > > > > 1) Does this mean we now have a wider canvas?
> > > > > Can we design safely for the new width I mean what chances are it
> > > > > might switch to the older width in the future?
>
> > > > > 2) Selecting/checking profile view with select box + radio buttons
> > > > > seems very confusing.
>
> > > > > 3) I agree with previous comments that description is needed in the
> > > > > app directory. Name + thumbnail are not enough.
>
> > > > > 4) Orkut in sandbox in IE is not rendering correctly for me on IE 8
> > > > > win 7 with pretty standard configuration.
> > > > > OK on FF. I've already sent a screenshot to orkut team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-06 Thread Prashant (Google)
It works for me! But I had to refresh the page a few times to get it
to purge the cache. Will have this checked.

Prashant

On Aug 6, 7:38 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
> &bpc=1 is not working here. You guys confirm?
>
> Best regards
> -- Bruno Souza
>
> On 3 ago, 19:01, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thank you all for the great feedback!
>
> > I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
> > some of the issues that showed up:
>
> > 1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break anyone
> > (badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.
>
> > 2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
> > during tests it seemed to work well. Tabs were definitely not the way
> > to go. If the menu is prominent enough for users to find, we believe
> > it will work well. Most of the time people are visiting someone else's
> > profile and looking for other stuff.
>
> > 3. agree that directory UI has poor interaction with each app in the
> > list, we'll get around that.
>
> > 4. we still have some open bugs to fix before wide launch, but the
> > easy stuff (e.g. searching on "Enter") is done.
>
> > Best regards,
> > --Tiago
>
> > On Aug 2, 1:36 am, brandited  wrote:
>
> > > - Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
> > > but for the user browsing around, I think it's a major lost to have
> > > only one thing chosen. If I chose an application, "my visitor" can't
> > > see my "about me" section. The new "option" button it's better than
> > > before, but it could allow arrange the order of the sections, so I
> > > could choose something like 3 tabs to show.
>
> > > - Is it possible to have an "applications" link besides "start profile
> > > communities" links on top?
>
> > > - I agree with others that description was important. At least
> > > something likehttp://www.agame.com/games/new.html, where I can see
> > > the description on mouseover without a server trip.
>
> > > - I should be able to rearrange the app order. The app I use the most
> > > is the last, it would be nice to setup it as the first one.
>
> > > - The "createActivity" box could be updated to the new layout rules
> > > (new buttons, bigger font, etc).
>
> > > - Search apps textbox is not working on enter keypress.
>
> > > - On "my apps", when I click the app, I see the description,
> > > screenshot, etc. But to play it, I have to close the box and then
> > > click the play link. Maybe a play link inside the box would help.
>
> > > - On application canvas page, it is a bit annoying to have "Promote"
> > > fixed on app list. I did not choose this app, it seems a little bit
> > > forced.
>
> > > - In orkut interface in general, when I click a dropdown button, the
> > > list appers below. But when I click again, maybe it should hide it the
> > > list, and not show it again. This is all around, like in the app list
> > > on the canvas page.
>
> > > On Aug 1, 8:09 am, anatoly  wrote:
>
> > > > Overall it look better, IMHO.
> > > > A couple of concerns and questions.
>
> > > > 1) Does this mean we now have a wider canvas?
> > > > Can we design safely for the new width I mean what chances are it
> > > > might switch to the older width in the future?
>
> > > > 2) Selecting/checking profile view with select box + radio buttons
> > > > seems very confusing.
>
> > > > 3) I agree with previous comments that description is needed in the
> > > > app directory. Name + thumbnail are not enough.
>
> > > > 4) Orkut in sandbox in IE is not rendering correctly for me on IE 8
> > > > win 7 with pretty standard configuration.
> > > > OK on FF. I've already sent a screenshot to orkut team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-06 Thread Bruno M. V. Souza
&bpc=1 is not working here. You guys confirm?

Best regards
-- Bruno Souza

On 3 ago, 19:01, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
> Thank you all for the great feedback!
>
> I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
> some of the issues that showed up:
>
> 1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break anyone
> (badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.
>
> 2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
> during tests it seemed to work well. Tabs were definitely not the way
> to go. If the menu is prominent enough for users to find, we believe
> it will work well. Most of the time people are visiting someone else's
> profile and looking for other stuff.
>
> 3. agree that directory UI has poor interaction with each app in the
> list, we'll get around that.
>
> 4. we still have some open bugs to fix before wide launch, but the
> easy stuff (e.g. searching on "Enter") is done.
>
> Best regards,
> --Tiago
>
> On Aug 2, 1:36 am, brandited  wrote:
>
> > - Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
> > but for the user browsing around, I think it's a major lost to have
> > only one thing chosen. If I chose an application, "my visitor" can't
> > see my "about me" section. The new "option" button it's better than
> > before, but it could allow arrange the order of the sections, so I
> > could choose something like 3 tabs to show.
>
> > - Is it possible to have an "applications" link besides "start profile
> > communities" links on top?
>
> > - I agree with others that description was important. At least
> > something likehttp://www.agame.com/games/new.html, where I can see
> > the description on mouseover without a server trip.
>
> > - I should be able to rearrange the app order. The app I use the most
> > is the last, it would be nice to setup it as the first one.
>
> > - The "createActivity" box could be updated to the new layout rules
> > (new buttons, bigger font, etc).
>
> > - Search apps textbox is not working on enter keypress.
>
> > - On "my apps", when I click the app, I see the description,
> > screenshot, etc. But to play it, I have to close the box and then
> > click the play link. Maybe a play link inside the box would help.
>
> > - On application canvas page, it is a bit annoying to have "Promote"
> > fixed on app list. I did not choose this app, it seems a little bit
> > forced.
>
> > - In orkut interface in general, when I click a dropdown button, the
> > list appers below. But when I click again, maybe it should hide it the
> > list, and not show it again. This is all around, like in the app list
> > on the canvas page.
>
> > On Aug 1, 8:09 am, anatoly  wrote:
>
> > > Overall it look better, IMHO.
> > > A couple of concerns and questions.
>
> > > 1) Does this mean we now have a wider canvas?
> > > Can we design safely for the new width I mean what chances are it
> > > might switch to the older width in the future?
>
> > > 2) Selecting/checking profile view with select box + radio buttons
> > > seems very confusing.
>
> > > 3) I agree with previous comments that description is needed in the
> > > app directory. Name + thumbnail are not enough.
>
> > > 4) Orkut in sandbox in IE is not rendering correctly for me on IE 8
> > > win 7 with pretty standard configuration.
> > > OK on FF. I've already sent a screenshot to orkut team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-04 Thread anatoly
There is a small but significant bug on a new canvas in sandbox.
Activity dialogs are opened at the top of the page and most of the
time not visible if the canvas is tall and the click is towards the
middle/bottom.

This can cause activities to be not posted/ignored.
On production it works OK - the dialog is opened in a visible area.


hope this will be fixed before deploying to production.

On Aug 4, 1:01 am, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
> Thank you all for the great feedback!
>
> I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
> some of the issues that showed up:
>
> 1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break anyone
> (badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.
>
> 2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
> during tests it seemed to work well. Tabs were definitely not the way
> to go. If the menu is prominent enough for users to find, we believe
> it will work well. Most of the time people are visiting someone else's
> profile and looking for other stuff.
>
> 3. agree that directory UI has poor interaction with each app in the
> list, we'll get around that.
>
> 4. we still have some open bugs to fix before wide launch, but the
> easy stuff (e.g. searching on "Enter") is done.
>
> Best regards,
> --Tiago
>
> On Aug 2, 1:36 am, brandited  wrote:
>
>
>
> > - Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
> > but for the user browsing around, I think it's a major lost to have
> > only one thing chosen. If I chose an application, "my visitor" can't
> > see my "about me" section. The new "option" button it's better than
> > before, but it could allow arrange the order of the sections, so I
> > could choose something like 3 tabs to show.
>
> > - Is it possible to have an "applications" link besides "start profile
> > communities" links on top?
>
> > - I agree with others that description was important. At least
> > something likehttp://www.agame.com/games/new.html, where I can see
> > the description on mouseover without a server trip.
>
> > - I should be able to rearrange the app order. The app I use the most
> > is the last, it would be nice to setup it as the first one.
>
> > - The "createActivity" box could be updated to the new layout rules
> > (new buttons, bigger font, etc).
>
> > - Search apps textbox is not working on enter keypress.
>
> > - On "my apps", when I click the app, I see the description,
> > screenshot, etc. But to play it, I have to close the box and then
> > click the play link. Maybe a play link inside the box would help.
>
> > - On application canvas page, it is a bit annoying to have "Promote"
> > fixed on app list. I did not choose this app, it seems a little bit
> > forced.
>
> > - In orkut interface in general, when I click a dropdown button, the
> > list appers below. But when I click again, maybe it should hide it the
> > list, and not show it again. This is all around, like in the app list
> > on the canvas page.
>
> > On Aug 1, 8:09 am, anatoly  wrote:
>
> > > Overall it look better, IMHO.
> > > A couple of concerns and questions.
>
> > > 1) Does this mean we now have a wider canvas?
> > > Can we design safely for the new width I mean what chances are it
> > > might switch to the older width in the future?
>
> > > 2) Selecting/checking profile view with select box + radio buttons
> > > seems very confusing.
>
> > > 3) I agree with previous comments that description is needed in the
> > > app directory. Name + thumbnail are not enough.
>
> > > 4) Orkut in sandbox in IE is not rendering correctly for me on IE 8
> > > win 7 with pretty standard configuration.
> > > OK on FF. I've already sent a screenshot to orkut team.- Hide quoted text 
> > > -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-03 Thread Tiago Silveira
Thank you all for the great feedback!

I won't answer all questions individually, but I'd like to highlight
some of the issues that showed up:

1. wider canvas - yes! We just need to make sure we won't break anyone
(badly) and that it can't be abused to annoy users.

2. single view with options menu instead of tabs worried us too, but
during tests it seemed to work well. Tabs were definitely not the way
to go. If the menu is prominent enough for users to find, we believe
it will work well. Most of the time people are visiting someone else's
profile and looking for other stuff.

3. agree that directory UI has poor interaction with each app in the
list, we'll get around that.

4. we still have some open bugs to fix before wide launch, but the
easy stuff (e.g. searching on "Enter") is done.

Best regards,
--Tiago

On Aug 2, 1:36 am, brandited  wrote:
> - Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
> but for the user browsing around, I think it's a major lost to have
> only one thing chosen. If I chose an application, "my visitor" can't
> see my "about me" section. The new "option" button it's better than
> before, but it could allow arrange the order of the sections, so I
> could choose something like 3 tabs to show.
>
> - Is it possible to have an "applications" link besides "start profile
> communities" links on top?
>
> - I agree with others that description was important. At least
> something likehttp://www.agame.com/games/new.html, where I can see
> the description on mouseover without a server trip.
>
> - I should be able to rearrange the app order. The app I use the most
> is the last, it would be nice to setup it as the first one.
>
> - The "createActivity" box could be updated to the new layout rules
> (new buttons, bigger font, etc).
>
> - Search apps textbox is not working on enter keypress.
>
> - On "my apps", when I click the app, I see the description,
> screenshot, etc. But to play it, I have to close the box and then
> click the play link. Maybe a play link inside the box would help.
>
> - On application canvas page, it is a bit annoying to have "Promote"
> fixed on app list. I did not choose this app, it seems a little bit
> forced.
>
> - In orkut interface in general, when I click a dropdown button, the
> list appers below. But when I click again, maybe it should hide it the
> list, and not show it again. This is all around, like in the app list
> on the canvas page.
>
> On Aug 1, 8:09 am, anatoly  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Overall it look better, IMHO.
> > A couple of concerns and questions.
>
> > 1) Does this mean we now have a wider canvas?
> > Can we design safely for the new width I mean what chances are it
> > might switch to the older width in the future?
>
> > 2) Selecting/checking profile view with select box + radio buttons
> > seems very confusing.
>
> > 3) I agree with previous comments that description is needed in the
> > app directory. Name + thumbnail are not enough.
>
> > 4) Orkut in sandbox in IE is not rendering correctly for me on IE 8
> > win 7 with pretty standard configuration.
> > OK on FF. I've already sent a screenshot to orkut team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-01 Thread brandited
- Removed tabs on profile: it's true that was complicated to setup,
but for the user browsing around, I think it's a major lost to have
only one thing chosen. If I chose an application, "my visitor" can't
see my "about me" section. The new "option" button it's better than
before, but it could allow arrange the order of the sections, so I
could choose something like 3 tabs to show.

- Is it possible to have an "applications" link besides "start profile
communities" links on top?

- I agree with others that description was important. At least
something like http://www.agame.com/games/new.html, where I can see
the description on mouseover without a server trip.

- I should be able to rearrange the app order. The app I use the most
is the last, it would be nice to setup it as the first one.

- The "createActivity" box could be updated to the new layout rules
(new buttons, bigger font, etc).

- Search apps textbox is not working on enter keypress.

- On "my apps", when I click the app, I see the description,
screenshot, etc. But to play it, I have to close the box and then
click the play link. Maybe a play link inside the box would help.

- On application canvas page, it is a bit annoying to have "Promote"
fixed on app list. I did not choose this app, it seems a little bit
forced.

- In orkut interface in general, when I click a dropdown button, the
list appers below. But when I click again, maybe it should hide it the
list, and not show it again. This is all around, like in the app list
on the canvas page.

On Aug 1, 8:09 am, anatoly  wrote:
> Overall it look better, IMHO.
> A couple of concerns and questions.
>
> 1) Does this mean we now have a wider canvas?
> Can we design safely for the new width I mean what chances are it
> might switch to the older width in the future?
>
> 2) Selecting/checking profile view with select box + radio buttons
> seems very confusing.
>
> 3) I agree with previous comments that description is needed in the
> app directory. Name + thumbnail are not enough.
>
> 4) Orkut in sandbox in IE is not rendering correctly for me on IE 8
> win 7 with pretty standard configuration.
> OK on FF. I've already sent a screenshot to orkut team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-08-01 Thread anatoly
Overall it look better, IMHO.
A couple of concerns and questions.

1) Does this mean we now have a wider canvas?
Can we design safely for the new width I mean what chances are it
might switch to the older width in the future?

2) Selecting/checking profile view with select box + radio buttons
seems very confusing.

3) I agree with previous comments that description is needed in the
app directory. Name + thumbnail are not enough.

4) Orkut in sandbox in IE is not rendering correctly for me on IE 8
win 7 with pretty standard configuration.
OK on FF. I've already sent a screenshot to orkut team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-07-29 Thread Jackson
Hi!

Other developer said that there's two things that may be changed:

- When the user adds an application, the application is not
redirecting to "canvas" page, this will make the users give up to
access the application and will make application has less traffic,
cause the users will close the application description and info and
users won't know where go to application canvas page.

- The translation of the word "open" may be "abrir" or "ver"
application, the correct portuguese word "aberta" may be "abrir" or
"ver"



-
Portuguese:

Outro desenvolvedor disse que há duas coisas que podem ser alterados:

- Quando o usuário adiciona um aplicativo, o aplicativo não está
redirecionando para a página "canvas", isto fará com que os usuários
desistem de acessar o aplicativo e fazer a aplicação ter menos
tráfego, pois o usuário poderá fechar a descrição da aplicação e
informações e não saberá onde ir para a página "canvas".

- A tradução da palavra "aberta" poderia ser "abrir" ou "ver" a
aplicação", a palavra em português correta para "aberta" seria "abrir"
ou "ver"

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Re: [orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-07-29 Thread Alex Porto
I think this new design is really much better. Being able to display a
single selected app is better than the old tabbed design. I hope other users
find the button to change the app sooner than me.

Alex.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Tiago Silveira  wrote:

> I'm please to announce that sandbox is working again.
>
> Please have a look at the new pages and test around. It went through
> full QA, but something can always slip through.
>
> Once again, any feedback is welcome.
>
> Best,
> Tiago
>
> On Jul 29, 12:08 pm, Cleber  wrote:
> > Tabs can be created using the tabs library from the Gadgets API:
> http://code.google.com/apis/gadgets/docs/ui.html#Tabs. You can also
> > see the article "Creating Orkut-styled Tabs":
> http://code.google.com/apis/orkut/articles/tabs.html.
> >
> > On Jul 27, 11:51 pm, ricmrios  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > One doubt: in one image of post (http://migre.me/10qO1), the app
> > > have some tabs. How can I create these tabs?
> >
> > > On 27 jul, 20:08, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
> >
> > > > This is being rolled out today.
> >
> > > >
> http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2010/07/redesigned-app-pages-on-orkut
> >
> > > > Please let us know if this causes (or fixes!) any issues for you. We
> > > > are also eager to hear your suggestions so we can launch something
> > > > users truly love.
> >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > the orkut applications team.
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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-07-29 Thread Tiago Silveira
I'm please to announce that sandbox is working again.

Please have a look at the new pages and test around. It went through
full QA, but something can always slip through.

Once again, any feedback is welcome.

Best,
Tiago

On Jul 29, 12:08 pm, Cleber  wrote:
> Tabs can be created using the tabs library from the Gadgets 
> API:http://code.google.com/apis/gadgets/docs/ui.html#Tabs. You can also
> see the article "Creating Orkut-styled 
> Tabs":http://code.google.com/apis/orkut/articles/tabs.html.
>
> On Jul 27, 11:51 pm, ricmrios  wrote:
>
>
>
> > One doubt: in one image of post (http://migre.me/10qO1), the app
> > have some tabs. How can I create these tabs?
>
> > On 27 jul, 20:08, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
>
> > > This is being rolled out today.
>
> > >http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2010/07/redesigned-app-pages-on-orkut
>
> > > Please let us know if this causes (or fixes!) any issues for you. We
> > > are also eager to hear your suggestions so we can launch something
> > > users truly love.
>
> > > Best regards,
> > > the orkut applications team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-07-29 Thread Cleber
Tabs can be created using the tabs library from the Gadgets API:
http://code.google.com/apis/gadgets/docs/ui.html#Tabs. You can also
see the article "Creating Orkut-styled Tabs":
http://code.google.com/apis/orkut/articles/tabs.html.

On Jul 27, 11:51 pm, ricmrios  wrote:
> One doubt: in one image of post (http://migre.me/10qO1), the app
> have some tabs. How can I create these tabs?
>
> On 27 jul, 20:08, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
>
>
>
> > This is being rolled out today.
>
> >http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2010/07/redesigned-app-pages-on-orkut
>
> > Please let us know if this causes (or fixes!) any issues for you. We
> > are also eager to hear your suggestions so we can launch something
> > users truly love.
>
> > Best regards,
> > the orkut applications team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-07-28 Thread Tiago Silveira
Me too! :-)

Tonight's push didn't work, all services return an empty response. The
old version is working, in case you need to test something urgently
you can switch in orkut.com.

--Tiago

On Jul 28, 11:51 pm, "Bruno M. V. Souza" <241...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The redesign seems very nice. Cant wait to see it working on sandbox.
>
> Best regards.
> --
> Bruno Souza
>
> On 27 jul, 20:08, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
>
>
>
> > This is being rolled out today.
>
> >http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2010/07/redesigned-app-pages-on-orkut
>
> > Please let us know if this causes (or fixes!) any issues for you. We
> > are also eager to hear your suggestions so we can launch something
> > users truly love.
>
> > Best regards,
> > the orkut applications team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-07-28 Thread Bruno M. V. Souza
The redesign seems very nice. Cant wait to see it working on sandbox.

Best regards.
--
Bruno Souza

On 27 jul, 20:08, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
> This is being rolled out today.
>
> http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2010/07/redesigned-app-pages-on-orkut
>
> Please let us know if this causes (or fixes!) any issues for you. We
> are also eager to hear your suggestions so we can launch something
> users truly love.
>
> Best regards,
> the orkut applications team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-07-28 Thread Gustavo
thanks for comment

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-07-28 Thread Tiago Silveira
Yes, I'm sorry. We'll do another push tonight.

On Jul 28, 12:13 pm, Gustavo  wrote:
> Sandbox not Working. =(
>
> Bad Bad Server :x

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-07-28 Thread Gustavo
Sandbox not Working. =(

Bad Bad Server :x

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-07-28 Thread ricmrios
One doubt: in one image of post ( http://migre.me/10qO1 ), the app
have some tabs. How can I create these tabs?

On 27 jul, 20:08, Tiago Silveira  wrote:
> This is being rolled out today.
>
> http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2010/07/redesigned-app-pages-on-orkut
>
> Please let us know if this causes (or fixes!) any issues for you. We
> are also eager to hear your suggestions so we can launch something
> users truly love.
>
> Best regards,
> the orkut applications team.

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[orkut-developer] Re: Redesigned app pages on sandbox

2010-07-28 Thread Tiago Silveira
Thanks for the suggestion, Julio.

Did you try to click on the app thumbnail? Maybe that's harder to
discover than we thought.

Some people reported not being able to log in. It seems there's a
problem with authentication. One workaround is to go to orkut.com and
log in with your developer account (the one you use to submit apps),
then open sandbox.orkut.com.

On Jul 27, 8:26 pm, Julio Alvarez  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> The new design is good. One suggestion for app directory: you could add
> application description to users, because only icon and name is not enough
> information and user will have to click on the application to know what it
> does, it is not very practical... Maybe one or two lines of description with
> '...' at end, as Google does in search results.
>
> Julio.
>
> 2010/7/27 Tiago Silveira 
>
>
>
> > This is being rolled out today.
>
> >http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2010/07/redesigned-app-pages-on-orkut
>
> > Please let us know if this causes (or fixes!) any issues for you. We
> > are also eager to hear your suggestions so we can launch something
> > users truly love.
>
> > Best regards,
> > the orkut applications team.
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