[osol-discuss] Duplicative "Documents" Entries in Nautilus
> I have recognized a rather stupid bug in the GNOME > desktop when switching between the en_US.UTF-8 locale > and the en_US.UTF-8 locale. I think I can do a quick > and dirty workaround by editing the .profile file > (this matter is relatively urgent, at least for me, > in light of the fact that the release of os0906 is > just around the corner). > > But then I realized that, after a diligent search, I > couldn't find any documentation that tells a curious > user how the localization is done in OpenSolaris. > More specifically, we are doing a great job of > hiding the description of the process as to what > happens after an OpenSolaris user chooses a specific > locale during the GNOME login screen. > > Where is the %$&#%^% Documentation? Basically the problem is as follows: When you open the Home Folder using Nautilus, it shows two "Documents" entries in the left column (something fishy here). The first entry is hardwired to the "$HOME/Documents" folder, and the second entry is linked to the folder corresponding to whatever the translation for the word "documents" is in that locale. If you use a non-English locale, the $HOME/Documents folder does not exist. Thus, when you click on the first entry (as we all have the tendency to do) to try to open a document, you will be admonished with an error message saying that the folder does not exist! We can instruct our users to use the second entry instead. But that will make us look EXTREMELY stupid, and OpenSolaris VERY unprofessional. Of course, if you are running the en_US locale, you will see nothing wrong, except you may (& most likely may not) wonder why the heck there need to be two identical entries. This seems to point to a sad fact that very few people use non-English versions of OpenSolaris. But this is no excuse for us to be so sloppy--and so unprofessional. (I checked against Ubuntu; lo and behold, it contains only one entry, which is correctly translated and points to the correct folder.) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Where is the Documentation?
> I have recognized a rather stupid bug in the GNOME > desktop when switching between the en_US.UTF-8 locale > and the en_US.UTF-8 locale. I think I can do a quick > and dirty workaround by editing the .profile file > (this matter is relatively urgent, at least for me, > in light of the fact that the release of os0906 is > just around the corner). > > But then I realized that, after a diligent search, I > couldn't find any documentation that tells a curious > user how the localization is done in OpenSolaris. > More specifically, we are doing a great job of > hiding the description of the process as to what > happens after an OpenSolaris user chooses a specific > locale during the GNOME login screen. > > Where is the %$&#%^% Documentation? Basically the problem is as follows: When you open the Home Folder using Nautilus, it shows two "Documents" entries in the left column (something fishy here). The first entry is hardwired to the "$HOME/Documents" folder, and the second entry is linked to the folder corresponding to whatever the translation for the word "documents" is in that locale. If you use a non-English locale, the $HOME/Documents folder does not exist. Thus, when you click on the first entry (as we all have the tendency to do) to try to open a document, you will be admonished with an error message saying that the folder does not exist! We can instruct our users to use the second entry instead. But that will make us look EXTREMELY stupid, and OpenSolaris VERY unprofessional. Of course, if you are running the en_US locale, you will see nothing wrong, except you may (& most likely may not) wonder why the heck there need to be two identical entries. This seems to point to a sad fact that very few people use non-English versions of OpenSolaris. But this is no excuse for us to be so sloppy--and so unprofessional. (I checked against Ubuntu; lo and behold, it contains only one entry, which is correctly translated and points to the correct folder.) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Reboots of nv111
> > Didn't have this before, so I wonder if it has to > > make with nv111? > > Around once per day, the mouse pointer freezes (be > it > > in a terminal window or web browser), > > Kernel panic? > > > then the hard drive LED is 100% active, > > Kernel writing crash dump? That's almost a 100% given, judging by the details he describes. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs HP-UX vs AIX
> Has anybody around here ever used HP-UX or AIX or any > other relevant non-BSD, non-Linux UNIX-style > operating system before? I use HP-UX every day, especially since I have HP-UX servers at home and do heavy development and system engineering on HP-UX. > If so, what do you think are the disadvantages and > advantages of these other operating systems vis-a-vis > Solaris? - HP-UX has POSIX binaries in /usr/(s)bin, something Solaris still does not have (POSIX XPG4 is in /usr/xpg4/bin, XPG6 is in /usr/xpg6/bin, not in PATH by default). - HP-UX is *hardcore* forward and backward compatible; moreso than Solaris, and that's a good thing! - the compilers are excellent, state of the art, and very similar in capabilities to Sun Studio! - HP-UX has /etc/PATH and /etc/MANPATH, the greatest thing since sliced bread... try to guess what those are for (I'd love to finally see that integrated in Solaris, I have the code ready and working) - the OS is high performance; really, really fast, and he's rock-solid-stable; this is probably his main strength and motivation for deploying HP-UX - the software management subsystem, SD-UX, is in most respects way more advanced that even the latest IPS (indeed, IPS looks like a toy in comparison to SD-UX, and so do pkgadd(1M) and friends): SD-UX supports bundles, products, subproducts - hierarchically ordered, limited regular expression version matching, "match what target has". Some of the disadvantages: - SD-UX *does not* remove empty directories upon software removal (unbelievable, but true!) - SD-UX does not appear to have an equivalent of class action scripts like pkgadd(1M) and friends do - HP-UX has no way (at least not in 11.23 - 11i v2) to power the hardware off (or perhaps the hardware has no software poweroff) - runs only on hp proprietary hppa and ia64 platforms (in reality, 11i v3 runs only on ia64 nowadays, and a few select hppa models) - has practically no free open source software bundled with him (hp's "internet bundle" is really, really LAME - and old!) - every piece of software is installed in its own separate directory: /opt/tcsh, /opt/blabla, ... - not available to the public, you have to have bought the hardware to get the media, and even then, it might very well be locked down for use by only so many users - MirrorUX is an additional, licensed product, costing extra, as do the compilers, which in this day and age is intolerable I chuckle every time when some GNU/Linux wannabe here gripes about how Solaris is missing this, that, or the other; they should try working on HP-UX, *THEN* they would know, what a bare OS looks like!!! For example, I had to compile my own python(1), get my own Mercurial hg(1) working, my own ncurses(3C), my own screen(1) utility - even my own less(1)! (Yes, I know about the hp-ux archive and porting center, and I hate it, because they don't know what they are doing, stuffing everything into /usr/local, which is against the System V spec!) All things considered, and you'll often read me write this here, HP-UX is a System V UNIX; and being one, apart from the hardware dependent commands, HP-UX is very, very similar to Solaris; oldskool System V folks should feel right at home on HP-UX. All in all, excellent OS, it's really too bad hp is *intentionally* killing him by not doing what Sun has done for Solaris. > I found this interesting link that compares HP-UX to > Solaris and seems to argue heavily in favor of > Solaris being easier to use: > > http://loudermilk.org/software/solaris-hpux.html That is an old, well known essay. I don't believe either is easier to use over the other; again, they're both System V UNIXes, so if you know Solaris, you know HP-UX, and vice-versa; those few platform dependent commands can be learned fairly quickly and painlessly in both operating systems. That is also one of the reasons why System V, apart from being strictly engineered to spec, is vastly superior to GNU: it's consistent and ubiquitous. > down compared to Red Hat with it's: Starting this [ > OK ] / [ FAILED ] messages. Now you know where GNU/Linux *lifted* it from: HP-UX! And the chkconfig(1M) was lifted from IRIX 6.5! Basically, anything that is cool in GNU/Linux was stolen from a System V UNIX, be it Solaris, IRIX, or HP-UX. > I also didn't mention any of the other non-BSD Unices > because I've been doing some research and SGI's IRIX The most advanced, way ahead of his time System V UNIX ever: IRIX. Even Apple computer's OS X still hasn't caught up to him in terms of user friendlyness and audio/video capabilities, and considering IRIX hasn't been developed since 2006, that says a lot; and the software management subsystem still has no match in the computer industry; it is still the most intelligent and most advanced, bar none. > Remember- in the end... there can be only one! Yes - System V! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs HP-UX vs AIX
Hi,
Well as they say, it takes all kinds:) HP-UX is definitely a different beast
and 11i hasn't significantly changed over the years other than hardware support
and bug fixes. AIX on the other hand is a bit more bizarre with things like
ODM, SMIT, and the command line tools. However, I would point out that AIX 6 is
pretty much catchup time for them with Solaris 10. I know the WPAR
functionality they got through an acquisition, for example. What's interesting
is that Solaris on SPARC, MacOS X on PPC, and AIX on Power all use OpenBoot,
but have some interesting differences in what you can do. Watching the bootup
sequence from the console on a Power box is somewhat familiar and alien all at
the same time. Which I think pretty much describes AIX in general. Google on
how to setup a virtual IP on AIX.. different let me tell you;)
Some things to point out, is that even though you can't see everything during
the Solaris bootup without supplying the -v option to boot, the contents are
saved to /var/adm/messages. The reason Solaris is like this is that customers
complained a lot in the past about the verbosity of the boot sequence. So there
have been programs in the past at Sun to make the boot sequence.. quiet and
faster;) But I know what you mean, I've worked with SunOS, Linux, BSDs, and
Tru64 and was use to the seeing all that verbose output. But honestly, unless
something is wrong, it's just not important.
I would say that until Solaris 10 came onto the scene, IBM didn't spend as much
resources on adding functionality to AIX. HP on the other hand is still dealing
with the transition to Itanium for its customer base. So most of the focus in
that camp has been on migration and hardware support. HP-UX itself has not
significantly changed. I remember when Tru64 was brought into HP, they promised
to port things like AdvFS and TruCluster. Of course, the reality is that Tru64
had some amazing technology, but it was tied to the Mach kernel and the Alpha
architecture. Very hard to port that kind of stuff over to an old-school
monolithic kernel as HP-UX. HP gave up and decided instead to offer Symantec
Veritas VSF and HA bundled instead.
>From a kernel perspective, Solaris has had a long history of being ahead of
>the competition. It was interesting going from SunOS, Linux, *BSDs, Digital
>Unix (tru64) to Solaris and not having to compile a kernel anymore for
>example. And it's a huge plus having stable API's and ABI's to run software
>from over 10 years ago on Solaris 10 without a recompile. Can't do that on
>most OS's.. even Linux hurts in this area.
>From what I've seen in customer shops.. ranging from financial, telcos,
>e-commerce, etc.. HP-UX and AIX are in the minority. Many shops have
>standardized on one UNIX(Solaris) or UNIX-like(Linux) platform. HP-UX lost a
>lot of street cred with the Itanium migration. Shops that have AIX, tend to be
>older companies that had or still have mainframes. It's just not a platform
>companies think of when starting out these days. And it's always seen as a
>huge expense in hardware, software, and most of all people. It's getting more
>difficult to find HP-UX or AIX sys admins these days.
Linux definitely gets a lot of press and attention. The main drivers are
start-ups and of coures acedemic settings where it is used a lot.
Unfortunately, the commercial UNIXs lost out on this over the past 6-8 years.
But I have seen a lot of startups that use or have switch to Solaris. Oddly,
there's not a lot press about that. But you would be surprised how many big
name web sites and services are using Solaris today.
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- Original Message
From: Anon Y Mous
To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:51:17 PM
Subject: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs HP-UX vs AIX
Has anybody around here ever used HP-UX or AIX or any other relevant non-BSD,
non-Linux UNIX-style operating system before?
If so, what do you think are the disadvantages and advantages of these other
operating systems vis-a-vis Solaris?
I found this interesting link that compares HP-UX to Solaris and seems to argue
heavily in favor of Solaris being easier to use:
http://loudermilk.org/software/solaris-hpux.html
The author claims that there is no easy way to tell how much memory is
installed in HP-UX. That's crazy!!! To me this sounds so medieval and so dark
ages that I have a hard time believing that there is no HP-UX equivalent to
what:
prtconf -v | grep Memory | awk '{print $3}'
does in Solaris that you could just put in your shell script to extract how
much total RAM is available in the system. Can any of the HP-UX admins confirm
this? The author of
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs HP-UX vs AIX
> In HP-UX 11v2/v3 you can use either /opt/ignite/bin/print_manifest or > machinfo for information about the machine, this does include the > amount of memory. So the thing that the loudermilk.org author was complaining about only applies to the eight year old HP-UX 11iv1 ? Or does the machinfo command work in older versions like HP-UX 11iv1 as well as HP-UX 11v2/v3 ? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs HP-UX vs AIX
Greetings,
In HP-UX 11v2/v3 you can use either /opt/ignite/bin/print_manifest or
machinfo for information about the machine, this does include the
amount of memory.
On Apr 13, 2009, at 2:51 AM, Anon Y Mous wrote:
Has anybody around here ever used HP-UX or AIX or any other relevant
non-BSD, non-Linux UNIX-style operating system before?
If so, what do you think are the disadvantages and advantages of
these other operating systems vis-a-vis Solaris?
I found this interesting link that compares HP-UX to Solaris and
seems to argue heavily in favor of Solaris being easier to use:
http://loudermilk.org/software/solaris-hpux.html
The author claims that there is no easy way to tell how much memory
is installed in HP-UX. That's crazy!!! To me this sounds so medieval
and so dark ages that I have a hard time believing that there is no
HP-UX equivalent to what:
prtconf -v | grep Memory | awk '{print $3}'
does in Solaris that you could just put in your shell script to
extract how much total RAM is available in the system. Can any of
the HP-UX admins confirm this? The author of the article said that
he had to write a C program to figure out how much memory was
installed in his HP-UX machines! The init 5 command also apparently
doesn't turn off the machine in HP-UX. I find that kind of strange
as well.
The only advantage I could find that HP-UX has pver Solaris is that
by default it seems to give you more information about what's going
on when the computer is booting up (without having to add a "-v"
option to the boot loader like Solaris requires) and it saves all
that information into log files so that you can see what the boot
errors are after the server is done booting up. I don't remember
the Solaris "dmesg | less" command ever having any bootup / startup
log information in it, so where is this information stored in
Solaris? One of the very few things that annoys me about Solaris is
that by default (without the "-v" option in the bootloader) it
doesn't give you very much information about what is actually going
on when the computer is booting up and shutting down compared to Red
Hat with it's: Starting this [ OK ] / [ FAILED ] messages. Sure SMF
theoretically can start lots of services at the same time which is
better than Red Hat's init scripts, but it would still be
nice to see more by default about what's actually going on in the
Solaris boot process.
I also found this article on AIX:
http://blog.thilelli.net/post/2007/05/22/Upcoming-IBM-AIX-6-features-vs-Sun-Solaris-10-and-OpenSolaris
I haven't played around with AIX yet, but just reading about it, it
seems like some kind of a weird, alien land... like UNIX with a New
Jersey accent. It's supposed to be a System V, but the init scripts
are BSD style instead of SysV /etc/init.d 's ? Can someone confirm
this? The seems kind of bizarre as well. Why would you not have Sys
V init scripts if it's a Sys V UNIX? Solaris 10 has SMF but it still
has a latent backwards compatible Sys V init capability in the /etc/
init.d directory if anyone decides that they want to use it.
I can't figure out what the advantage is that AIX has over Solaris,
even for IBM shops, because Solaris seems like it's capable of
running virtualized inside z/VM in an IBM shop's mainframe whereas
AIX can't do this.
I also didn't mention any of the other non-BSD Unices because I've
been doing some research and SGI's IRIX seems like it's are pretty
much dead now and Compaq's (DEC's) Tru64 UNIX was decapitated in a
duel with HP-UX, which only leaves Solaris, HP-UX and AIX as the
remaining three immortals in the System V UNIX "Highlander"
competition that seems to be going on in large enterprises for
domination of the high availability systems market. Hopefully either
Solaris or some kind of BSD will win the tournament and beat out the
competition for marketshare as Linux doesn't seem to be all that
reliable if you don't roll your own custom-built Linux distro from
scratch and run it on carefully chosen hardware the way that Google
and Akamai do. When you're stuck with a job as a sysadmin for random
x86 based Linux machines purchased by other people with device
drivers that are out of the main kernel tree, you never know when a
Linux kernel upgrade is going to break something.
Remember- in the end... there can be only one!
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[osol-discuss] Solaris vs HP-UX vs AIX
Has anybody around here ever used HP-UX or AIX or any other relevant non-BSD,
non-Linux UNIX-style operating system before?
If so, what do you think are the disadvantages and advantages of these other
operating systems vis-a-vis Solaris?
I found this interesting link that compares HP-UX to Solaris and seems to argue
heavily in favor of Solaris being easier to use:
http://loudermilk.org/software/solaris-hpux.html
The author claims that there is no easy way to tell how much memory is
installed in HP-UX. That's crazy!!! To me this sounds so medieval and so dark
ages that I have a hard time believing that there is no HP-UX equivalent to
what:
prtconf -v | grep Memory | awk '{print $3}'
does in Solaris that you could just put in your shell script to extract how
much total RAM is available in the system. Can any of the HP-UX admins confirm
this? The author of the article said that he had to write a C program to figure
out how much memory was installed in his HP-UX machines! The init 5 command
also apparently doesn't turn off the machine in HP-UX. I find that kind of
strange as well.
The only advantage I could find that HP-UX has pver Solaris is that by default
it seems to give you more information about what's going on when the computer
is booting up (without having to add a "-v" option to the boot loader like
Solaris requires) and it saves all that information into log files so that you
can see what the boot errors are after the server is done booting up. I don't
remember the Solaris "dmesg | less" command ever having any bootup / startup
log information in it, so where is this information stored in Solaris? One of
the very few things that annoys me about Solaris is that by default (without
the "-v" option in the bootloader) it doesn't give you very much information
about what is actually going on when the computer is booting up and shutting
down compared to Red Hat with it's: Starting this [ OK ] / [ FAILED ] messages.
Sure SMF theoretically can start lots of services at the same time which is
better than Red Hat's init scripts, but it would still be
nice to see more by default about what's actually going on in the Solaris boot
process.
I also found this article on AIX:
http://blog.thilelli.net/post/2007/05/22/Upcoming-IBM-AIX-6-features-vs-Sun-Solaris-10-and-OpenSolaris
I haven't played around with AIX yet, but just reading about it, it seems like
some kind of a weird, alien land... like UNIX with a New Jersey accent. It's
supposed to be a System V, but the init scripts are BSD style instead of SysV
/etc/init.d 's ? Can someone confirm this? The seems kind of bizarre as well.
Why would you not have Sys V init scripts if it's a Sys V UNIX? Solaris 10 has
SMF but it still has a latent backwards compatible Sys V init capability in the
/etc/init.d directory if anyone decides that they want to use it.
I can't figure out what the advantage is that AIX has over Solaris, even for
IBM shops, because Solaris seems like it's capable of running virtualized
inside z/VM in an IBM shop's mainframe whereas AIX can't do this.
I also didn't mention any of the other non-BSD Unices because I've been doing
some research and SGI's IRIX seems like it's are pretty much dead now and
Compaq's (DEC's) Tru64 UNIX was decapitated in a duel with HP-UX, which only
leaves Solaris, HP-UX and AIX as the remaining three immortals in the System V
UNIX "Highlander" competition that seems to be going on in large enterprises
for domination of the high availability systems market. Hopefully either
Solaris or some kind of BSD will win the tournament and beat out the
competition for marketshare as Linux doesn't seem to be all that reliable if
you don't roll your own custom-built Linux distro from scratch and run it on
carefully chosen hardware the way that Google and Akamai do. When you're stuck
with a job as a sysadmin for random x86 based Linux machines purchased by other
people with device drivers that are out of the main kernel tree, you never know
when a Linux kernel upgrade is going to break something.
Remember- in the end... there can be only one!
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[osol-discuss] Setting up my OpenSolaris server, ZFS, Zones, ldap and picking a distro
Hello, I am very new to Solaris, I was using OpenSolaris 2008 LiveCD in Virtual Box and after spending some time reading about it, I quite like ZFS and Zones. I have played around with ZFS in Virtual Box creating multiple drives and simulated failures. I have decided to build a new OpenSolaris box as a File Server as well as many other things. Coming from Gentoo Linux on my other server (very minimal and compiles each binary for my processor based on my compiler flags). I have found that this is not really how OpenSolaris does things. I also downloded a OpenSolaris SXCE DVD and tried to use that on a old system I have. First the minimal install was quite larger than my minimal on Gentoo, and then I didn't have make or any compiler to install the drivers I needed for my nic. So I definitely do not want that minimal, but the full install (5GB+) seemed a little to big. Could someone please make sure I understand how Solaris works correctly (ZFS, Zones, etc). Here is what I would like to do for storage; - 2-3x 1TB Drives mirror/raidz on ZFS, to hold home directories (/export/home?). Have not decided if I want to use 2 mirrored drives or 3 with raidz yet. - 1 other drive to hold my root zfs pool, as I understand a root pool has restrictions and I want this separate from my data drives. I am planning to put two nic's on my box, one will be from my modem, supplying it with a internet connection. And the other will be to a gigabit switch for when I expand my network. For this I would need to install a DHCP server, and a DNS server. In linux I would use dnsmasq to handle these. Gentoo has a nice guide on this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml Is there anything like this for Solaris? If there isn't, im sure I could work it out. I also want to share my home directory to my laptop (Mac OS X) and use rsync to backup some files onto my server. I could either use CIFS, SMB or NFS. I read that SMB was built into ZFS. I would like to create a Zone and a SSH Server on this zone so that a few of my friends can access it. I would also like to use ldap for the authentication as I also want to tie in the login to a website I will be running. It would be nice to use the ldap server for my account also on the other zone, possibly use separate "companies" within ldap. (I am new to LDAP). I would also want some kind of VPN, either IPSec or pptp. This would mainly be for me and could use ldap. There are not many people in this Zone who I would like to access my VPN, but I would like one or two to have access to it, could I use ldap and permissions for certain people? I read that OpenSolaris has IPSec Tunnel's integrated into the operating system. So I would not need to install additional software. >From what I understand, this zone does not affect the performance. And I can >limit it so that the SSH users do not use too much of my processor. And also, >my SSH users are locked down away from my main solaris with my file server? >The only way they could access it is from the network (if it didn't have a >firewall). I was not sure how the ZFS file system works on multiple Zones, can I mount a ZFS "partition" to a home directory inside the zone? Or is there be a virtual ZFS inside the zone? Could I set up networking in a Zone so that it uses DHCP from my main OpenSolaris? And would work exactly like connections via the switch. I was also wondering what build of OpenSolaris I should use. I don't want to be installing everything like the LiveCD wanted me to do (GUI, etc). I hope I can get OpenSolaris to work the way I wish :). And I will certainly document my process in doing so. Thanks in advanced for any help. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] X58 and i7?
Well, no one answered, but I have since confirmed both from Intel/Solaris press and my own testing that i7, X58 and ICH10 are a fine match with OpenSolaris 2008.11. However, as with all of the ICHxR chipsets, if you can't disable the RAID in the BIOS by setting it to AHCI/non-RAID mode, you will have to settle for IDE/ATA compatibility mode. In my brief tests, there doesn't seem to be a huge performance hit, although I'd prefer to keep everything "native". For anyone curious, the Dell XPS 435 series are 100% compatible with 2008.11--audio and all. The 435MT doesn't currently have an ACHI non-RAID mode for its SATA controller (set it to ATA), but the 435T does. Nice to have 12GB+ of memory to use with VB. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Reboots of nv111
Thanks so much, Joerg! This is what I was looking for. And here are the results: > ::msgbuf MESSAGE ii0 is /pseudo/i...@0 pseudo-device: fssnap0 fssnap0 is /pseudo/fss...@0 pseudo-device: winlock0 winlock0 is /pseudo/winl...@0 pseudo-device: pm0 pm0 is /pseudo/p...@0 pseudo-device: rsm0 rsm0 is /pseudo/r...@0 pseudo-device: pool0 pool0 is /pseudo/p...@0 IP Filter: v4.1.9, running. pseudo-device: lx_systrace0 lx_systrace0 is /pseudo/lx_systr...@0 pseudo-device: nsmb0 nsmb0 is /pseudo/n...@0 @(#) rdc: built 23:49:01 Mar 16 2009 pseudo-device: rdc0 rdc0 is /pseudo/r...@0 pcplusmp: ide (ata) instance 1 irq 0xf vector 0x44 ioapic 0x2 intin 0xf is bound to cpu 0 NOTICE: IRQ20 is being shared by drivers with different interrupt levels. This may result in reduced system performance. pcplusmp: ide (ata) instance 1 irq 0xf vector 0x44 ioapic 0x2 intin 0xf is bound to cpu 1 NOTICE: IRQ20 is being shared by drivers with different interrupt levels. This may result in reduced system performance. dump on /dev/zvol/dsk/rpool/dump size 1024 MB pcplusmp: ide (ata) instance 1 irq 0xf vector 0x44 ioapic 0x2 intin 0xf is bound to cpu 0 NOTICE: IRQ20 is being shared by drivers with different interrupt levels. This may result in reduced system performance. pcplusmp: ide (ata) instance 1 irq 0xf vector 0x44 ioapic 0x2 intin 0xf is bound to cpu 1 NOTICE: IRQ20 is being shared by drivers with different interrupt levels. This may result in reduced system performance. NOTICE: rge0 unregistered pseudo-device: devinfo0 devinfo0 is /pseudo/devi...@0 xsvc0 at root: space 0 offset 0 xsvc0 is /x...@0,0 pseudo-device: nvidia255 nvidia255 is /pseudo/nvi...@255 NOTICE: IRQ22 is being shared by drivers with different interrupt levels. This may result in reduced system performance. PCI Express-device: pci1565,8...@7, audiohd0 audiohd0 is /p...@0,0/pci1565,8...@7 pcplusmp: asy (asy) instance 0 irq 0x4 vector 0xb0 ioapic 0x2 intin 0x4 is bound to cpu 0 ISA-device: asy0 asy0 is /isa/a...@1,3f8 pcplusmp: ide (ata) instance 1 irq 0xf vector 0x40 ioapic 0x2 intin 0xf is bound to cpu 1 NOTICE: IRQ20 is being shared by drivers with different interrupt levels. This may result in reduced system performance. pcplusmp: lp (ecpp) instance 0 irq 0x7 vector 0x40 ioapic 0x2 intin 0x7 is bound to cpu 0 ISA-device: ecpp0 ecpp0 is /isa/l...@1,378 pcplusmp: pci10ec,8168 (rge) instance 0 irq 0x19 vector 0x60 ioapic 0xff intin 0 xff is bound to cpu 1 NOTICE: rge0: Using MSI interrupt type NOTICE: rge0 registered pseudo-device: ramdisk1024 ramdisk1024 is /pseudo/ramd...@1024 pseudo-device: lockstat0 lockstat0 is /pseudo/locks...@0 pseudo-device: llc10 llc10 is /pseudo/l...@0 pseudo-device: stmf0 stmf0 is /pseudo/s...@0 pseudo-device: fct0 fct0 is /pseudo/f...@0 pseudo-device: lofi0 lofi0 is /pseudo/l...@0 pseudo-device: systrace0 systrace0 is /pseudo/systr...@0 pseudo-device: fbt0 fbt0 is /pseudo/f...@0 pseudo-device: sdt0 sdt0 is /pseudo/s...@0 pseudo-device: ucode0 ucode0 is /pseudo/uc...@0 pseudo-device: fcp0 fcp0 is /pseudo/f...@0 pseudo-device: fcsm0 fcsm0 is /pseudo/f...@0 pseudo-device: vboxflt0 vboxflt0 is /pseudo/vbox...@0 pseudo-device: profile0 profile0 is /pseudo/prof...@0 pseudo-device: dcpc0 dcpc0 is /pseudo/d...@0 pseudo-device: ncall0 ncall0 is /pseudo/nc...@0 pseudo-device: nsctl0 nsctl0 is /pseudo/ns...@0 pseudo-device: nsctl0 nsctl0 is /pseudo/ns...@0 pseudo-device: sdbc0 sdbc0 is /pseudo/s...@0 sv Mar 16 2009 23:48:52 (revision 11.11, SunOS 5.11, None) pseudo-device: sv0 sv0 is /pseudo/s...@0 pseudo-device: ii0 ii0 is /pseudo/i...@0 pseudo-device: fssnap0 fssnap0 is /pseudo/fss...@0 pseudo-device: winlock0 winlock0 is /pseudo/winl...@0 pseudo-device: pm0 pm0 is /pseudo/p...@0 pseudo-device: rsm0 rsm0 is /pseudo/r...@0 pseudo-device: lx_systrace0 lx_systrace0 is /pseudo/lx_systr...@0 pseudo-device: nsmb0 nsmb0 is /pseudo/n...@0 @(#) rdc: built 23:49:01 Mar 16 2009 pseudo-device: rdc0 rdc0 is /pseudo/r...@0 pcplusmp: ide (ata) instance 1 irq 0xf vector 0x44 ioapic 0x2 intin 0xf is bound to cpu 0 NOTICE: IRQ20 is being shared by drivers with different interrupt levels. This may result in reduced system performance. NOTICE: IRQ20 is being shared by drivers with different interrupt levels. This may result in reduced system performance. NOTICE: rum1 link up panic[cpu1]/thread=ff0007899c60: BAD TRAP: type=e (#pf Page fault) rp=ff0007899a30 addr=5ea228138 occurred in module "nvidia" due to an illegal access to a user address sched: #pf Page fault Bad kernel fault at addr=0x5ea228138 pid=0, pc=0xf7f39b7f, sp=0xff0007899b20, eflags=0x10297 cr0: 8005003b cr4: 6f8 cr2: 5ea228138 cr3: 3c0 cr8: c rdi: ff01be42ead0 rsi:6 rdx:0 rcx:0 r8: ff01be42ead0 r9:0 rax: be42ead0 rbx:0 rbp: ff01bafd800
Re: [osol-discuss] How can i forbid sftp users to change their home directory
have a look at "scponly" ( http://www.sublimation.org/scponly/ ) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] kernel panics during zfs send
> > Is it similar to the following bug? > > > > Bug ID: 6577985 > > Synopsis: panic when zfs send a snapshot with i/o errors > > > > http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6577985 > > Yes.. But instead of a file i'm receiving to a new zpool. > > I'm away from my machine. (hence, i can't cat > /etc/release) But, i know I'm running snv_104. Hmm, the above bug is supposed to be fixed in build 102. > I will also try to go the mdb stuff that was done in > the bug report with my vmcore file and post it as > well. This information from mdb -k could be interesting: # cd /var/crash/`hostname` # ls -l # mdb -k N (N is the kernel crash dump sequence number) And in kmdb -k: ::status ::stack ::cpuinfo -v ::msgbuf -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] kernel panics during zfs send
> Is it similar to the following bug? > > Bug ID: 6577985 > Synopsis: panic when zfs send a snapshot with i/o > errors > > ttp://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6577985 Yes.. But instead of a file i'm receiving to a new zpool. I'm away from my machine. (hence, i can cat /etc/release) But, i know I'm running snv_104. I will also try to go the mdb stuff that was done in the bug report with my vmcore file and post it as well. Let me know if you need me to do anything else. Thanks Vijay -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Password Safe for OpenSolaris?
I suggest you to try KeePass (on Windows) and KeePassX on OpenSolaris (you'll have to compile gcc4.3/4, q4.5 and KeePassX though, but they're usually needed anyway...) I recently compiled the latest version of keepassx with success (had to tweak the compile flags to have "-include keepassx.h" and make moc include that as well in the generated files. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Updating snv_98
Anon Y Mous wrote: pkg set-authority -P -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev dev pkg image-update I take this to mean that there are no longer any more bizzare "gotchas" in upgrading to the builds after snv_98 ? No, and if there were, they would be in the release notes. You know the kind of thing where if you forget to type in something like "pfexec /mnt/boot/solaris/bin/update_grub -R /mnt" with only your left hand during a lunar equinox while hopping up and down on one leg and simultaneously scratching your head and chewing gum at the same time *BEFORE* doing the pkg image_update from snv_86 to snv_92, the zpool won't boot up? The issue you speak of was a result of changes in the underlying boot management libraries / grub and not of the pkg system. Cheers, -- Shawn Walker ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris TownHall - April 24th 8am-10am PT
All, It has been a while since the last Town Hall meeting, and a lot has gone on since then. We are planning the next Town Hall meeting for Friday April 24th from 8am to 10am PT. Attending will be Dan Roberts, OpenSolaris Marketing, along with myself and a number of engineers from the OpenSolaris team. All slides will be posted beforehand and the session will be recorded for those who cannot make it. Agenda/Details will be sent out in advance, we will talk about plans for the upcoming 2009.06 release. If there's any topics you want covered, please send me a note and we'll try to work it in. I would also like to open the meeting up to others in the Community who would like to talk about the work they are doing. Best Regards Vincent Murphy Director of OpenSolaris Engineering OGB Liason ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Reboots of nv111
Joerg Schilling wrote: This looks as if you have a chance to get a kernel core dump. Did you check /var/crash/ for cores and use mdb to get the reason? Yes, I have (cores). But no clue (despite Google) how to do that reasonably. Could you point me to a useful link, please? Uwe ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Heat problem w/ Lenovo T60p
> I'm not sure if the fan is managed or not. It takes some time to heat > the CPU up or cool it down and it's already running pretty fast without > load... You can try to run "dtrace -m tzmon" (enables all probes in the tzmon kernel module), maybe some of the acpi error probes (tzmon_set_power alx-error / tzmon_set_power_device alx-error) are running? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Heat problem w/ Lenovo T60p
> Frequency transition now occurs during the thread switching if the > cmt_utilization > of the power active domain think it's necessary. > It's(event-mode) much more sensitive than before(poll-mode), even "kstat | > grep > current_clock_Hz" is possible to trigger a frequency transition. So, now, > powertop > is more reliable to report the cpu frequency utilization. The "P-states (frequencies)" statistic of powertop is showing four entries (996, 1328, 1660 and 1992 MHz on a C2D T7200), and I see either 100% at 996 Mhz, or 100% at 1992 MHz. That it doesn't use the 1328 and 1660 Mhz frequencies is already reported as bug 6808377 "event based CPUPM could leverage mid range speeds". But why is it always reporting a frequency usage split for 996 and 1992 MHz as 100% - 0% (or 0% - 100%) ? Somehow it doesn't make sense that in event-mode (according to powertop) the cpu is always running at the slowest (highest) speed during the 5 second powertop sample interval. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Reboots of nv111
Uwe Dippel wrote: > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > This looks as if you have a chance to get a kernel core dump. > > > > Did you check /var/crash/ > > > > for cores and use mdb to get the reason? > > > > Yes, I have (cores). But no clue (despite Google) how to do that reasonably. > Could you point me to a useful link, please? As root chdir /var/crash/ Check for the last dump (e.g. #5). mdb -k 5 ::msgbuf $C ::msgbuf prints the latest kernel messages $C prints a stack trace from dump time. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Reboots of nv111
> Didn't have this before, so I wonder if it has to > make with nv111? > Around once per day, the mouse pointer freezes (be it > in a terminal window or web browser), Kernel panic? > then the hard drive LED is 100% active, Kernel writing crash dump? > and after about 2-3 seconds > the machine reboots. Could be a panic... > Since this has never happened before, I wonder if > something broke here or in nv111? Do you have "savecore enabled" in dumpadm? Is there a saved kernel crash dump in /var/crash/`hostname` ? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Reboots of nv111
Uwe Dippel wrote: > Didn't have this before, so I wonder if it has to make with nv111? > Around once per day, the mouse pointer freezes (be it in a terminal window or > web browser), then the hard drive LED is 100% active, and after about 2-3 > seconds the machine reboots. > Since this has never happened before, I wonder if something broke here or in > nv111? This looks as if you have a chance to get a kernel core dump. Did you check /var/crash/ for cores and use mdb to get the reason? Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Reboots of nv111
Didn't have this before, so I wonder if it has to make with nv111? Around once per day, the mouse pointer freezes (be it in a terminal window or web browser), then the hard drive LED is 100% active, and after about 2-3 seconds the machine reboots. Since this has never happened before, I wonder if something broke here or in nv111? Uwe -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Updating snv_98
> pkg set-authority -P -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev dev > pkg image-update I take this to mean that there are no longer any more bizzare "gotchas" in upgrading to the builds after snv_98 ? You know the kind of thing where if you forget to type in something like "pfexec /mnt/boot/solaris/bin/update_grub -R /mnt" with only your left hand during a lunar equinox while hopping up and down on one leg and simultaneously scratching your head and chewing gum at the same time *BEFORE* doing the pkg image_update from snv_86 to snv_92, the zpool won't boot up? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Heat problem w/ Lenovo T60p
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Phillip Wagstrom -- Area Technical Engineer wrote: > Jürgen Keil wrote: >>> >>> I noticed a similar issue on my Tecra M5 when going from builds 109 to >>> builds 110 and 111. powertop would say that the cpu would be running at >>> 1GHz but kstat would stay it was still at 183000 >>> I stumbled upon an internal Solaris Nevada bug (CR# 6818514) that was >>> created for ATOM processors showing the same thing that suggests using: >>> >>> cpupm enable poll-mode >>> >>> Setting this on my M5 seems to cause the CPU to cycle down as expected. >> >> Hmm, my ASUS N4L-VM DH Core2Duo box shows the same. >> >> Seems to be a feature (or a bug?) of the new >> "Power Aware Dispatcher" (PAD) support that >> was added in build 110. >> >> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/tesla/Work/CPUPM/ >> >> Maybe with the new PAD support (cpupm enabled in >> "event-mode") the kernel is able to switch back to the >> highest cpu frequency *much* faster (=> event driven), >> so that "kstat cpu_info:::current_clock_Hz" now always >> reports the highest cpu frequency? >> >> (That is, monitoring the kstat cpu_info >> current_clock_Hz isn't valid any more to find out >> if cpu power management is working -- use powertop >> instead) > > I wasn't aware of PAD. Looking at powertop, I did see that the CPU > frequency was switching there, though it was always at the max according to > kstat (even when sitting completely idle). What you suggest could very well > be the case. > I just happened to notice it since my laptops fan was running more > often. I guess that I'll have to monitor how long the battery lasts between > the different modes. > > -Phil > Frequency transition now occurs during the thread switching if the cmt_utilization of the power active domain think it's necessary. It's(event-mode) much more sensitive than before(poll-mode), even "kstat | grep current_clock_Hz" is possible to trigger a frequency transition. So, now, powertop is more reliable to report the cpu frequency utilization. Thanks, -Aubrey ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Updating snv_98
pkg set-authority -P -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev dev pkg image-update -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Password Safe for OpenSolaris?
I have a substantial database of usernames/passwords in "Password Safe" format version 3 (http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/index.shtml). Unfortunately, this app is Windows-only, and as I have no appetite to re-enter all the data into another file format, I have to run XP in VirtualBox in order to get at the data. I have tried compiling "Password Gorilla", which apparently is compatible with the format, but end up in dependency hell once I get past Tcl/Tk onto BWidget and start compiling its associated sub-packages. Is there a pre-packaged (or easy to compile) application which runs *reliably* on OpenSolaris, and will allow me to read/write my v3 database? Thank you. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Can mysql be slower in a zone?
In situations like this, I always like to blame the hardware RAID card for any and everything that goes wrong (including slow performance), especially the cheap P.O.S. cards everyone is using nowadays like Adaptecs and Highpoint "Rocket" RAID cards (zoom! there went all your data!). Honestly, I don't get why it's so difficult for people to understand that it's a huge performance bottle-neck having all the data go through one single controller like that and it's a single point of failure that will inevitably destroy all of your data when the RAID card reaches it's warranty expiration date and fails on time as scheduled by the manufacturer (and boy do they fail). Why would you trust all of your data to some mysterious, unknown, black box closed source embedded technology with buggy microcode that was probably written by a 12 year old child working in a sweatshop in Burma when you can use a truly brilliant file system like ZFS? Even an ext3 file system on Linux with mdadm software raid and smartctl going on it can be pretty good in my estimation. Everybody seems to love RAID 5 until they suffer two or more simultaneous drive failures in the RAID array (due to heat overload) and can't recover their data. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Can't find Solaris 10 desktop background wallpaper and application icon
So you are using "Solaris 10" as your operating system and not Solaris Express or OpenSolaris 2008.11? Do you know the names of any of the missing files? If so maybe you could try finding them with a command that should looks something like this: find / -name missingwallpaperfile.png 2>/dev/null The command might take a long time to run depending on the speed of your fixed disks and the size of the file system that you're searching for, so you might want to go grab a bite to eat or go watch a movie or something. Also, before you try running the command type in this command: man find to read the man page on the find command to make sure that you know what you're doing before you try to do it. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] kernel panics during zfs send
> I was trying to do a zfs send / receive of a zfs > dataset that had data errors. While doing so the > kernel panicked. But i removed the file that had the > error and scrubbed the dataset. This cleared the > error and zfs send/receive was successfull. > > Is this a bug?. Can i submit a bug report. I have > the vmcore file if i need to do any crash analysis. What is the exact opensolaris version that you're using? ( cat /etc/release ) Is it similar to the following bug? Bug ID: 6577985 Synopsis: panic when zfs send a snapshot with i/o errors http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6577985 -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
