Re: [osol-discuss] Offline install of IPS packages (not a joke)
Shawn Walker wrote: C. wrote: I'm not sure when I'll get to this, but I've started to brainstorm on how to solve the offline install problem for IPS.. I've had a wrapper shell script that is capable of pulling packages directly from pkg.osol.o for a while. Yesterday I took that and updated it to handle the current manifest format and integrated it into our packaging system. I must say there's a lot of inconsistencies in the manifest which I'm not sure where are coming from and had to work around. (Mostly to do with symlink creation) Off-line capability is being discussed, but it isn't as simple as putting the existing package files into a tarball. As for inconsistencies in the manifest, that's pretty vague. Care to discuss the specifics on pkg-discuss? Look at the manifest.. You'll see that that some target= are trying to create a symlink against a file which isn't there. (I confirmed against the pkg.osol.o database that it's *supposed* to be in that manifest as well) I also noticed you're combining sparc/i386 stuff in the same manifest and beyond two arches I don't really see this being so scalable. (ok. that works for now since osol isn't so portable..) In terms of performance I doubt that it'll be "fast" with 2k packages.. or "fast" around update time every couple weeks or under various other conditions. If you had read what I wrote clearly I never said anything about a tarball.. I said deb (which yes is technically an archive with a payload in it), but the other step was scanning for runtime dependencies.. (Why do I feel I'm repeating myself) There's no need to defend IPS.. It's clear the project is still under heavy development and just not ready for anything except a casual desktop user. If you'd like to discuss it further feel free to pm me and drop the list on reply.. (I'm not subbed to pkg-discuss, but if you cc me on any interesting discussions I'll help out where I can.) Cheers, ./C ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Offline install of IPS packages (not a joke)
C. wrote: I'm not sure when I'll get to this, but I've started to brainstorm on how to solve the offline install problem for IPS.. I've had a wrapper shell script that is capable of pulling packages directly from pkg.osol.o for a while. Yesterday I took that and updated it to handle the current manifest format and integrated it into our packaging system. I must say there's a lot of inconsistencies in the manifest which I'm not sure where are coming from and had to work around. (Mostly to do with symlink creation) Off-line capability is being discussed, but it isn't as simple as putting the existing package files into a tarball. As for inconsistencies in the manifest, that's pretty vague. Care to discuss the specifics on pkg-discuss? all the others using debs and various other benefits. IPS is really still a pre-alpha tool with lots of features missing, slow and under heavy development. With minimal effort I'm pretty sure I could plug in almost any package format so if you prefer SuSE flavor rpms that's fine as well. This is of course missing out on source packages, but I handle that in another way. If you have performance concerns, you need to file bugs at http://defect.opensolaris.org or discuss them on pkg-discuss. I believe you'll find the build 111a version of pkg (or the one currently in the gate) to be significantly faster than the build 109 and prior versions. Cheers, -- Shawn Walker ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Offline install of IPS packages (not a joke)
Hi everyone, I'm not sure when I'll get to this, but I've started to brainstorm on how to solve the offline install problem for IPS.. I've had a wrapper shell script that is capable of pulling packages directly from pkg.osol.o for a while. Yesterday I took that and updated it to handle the current manifest format and integrated it into our packaging system. I must say there's a lot of inconsistencies in the manifest which I'm not sure where are coming from and had to work around. (Mostly to do with symlink creation) Here's the result of the package.. http://pkg.osunix.org/packages/dump-dangerous/sys-devel/sunstudioexpress-5.11.106.oxe ~86M Right now this is using my experimental oxe format (RPM5-like). However, last week I updated our build system to also make debs. From here there's only four steps missing to support offline install. 1) Bulk mirror of pkg.osol.o (could use the sun repo, but it's so slow.. throttled?) 2) Bulk integration of manifest into our packaging system 3) Build packages and scan all files for runtime dependencies 4) Update the runtime dependencies for the package With this in theory we build debs and take advantage of all the nice appliance and package management tools. This could lead to a more smart install process allowing the selection of packages, reuse of code from all the others using debs and various other benefits. IPS is really still a pre-alpha tool with lots of features missing, slow and under heavy development. With minimal effort I'm pretty sure I could plug in almost any package format so if you prefer SuSE flavor rpms that's fine as well. This is of course missing out on source packages, but I handle that in another way. Ok.. flame away.. :) ./Christopher (please ask more technical questions on http://sl.osunix.org/osunix-dev ) --- Community driven OpenSolaris Technology - http://www.osunix.org blog: http://www.codestrom.com ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
