Re: [osol-discuss] liveCD login and password

2009-03-18 Thread Calum Benson


On 16 Mar 2009, at 01:46, Ché Kristo wrote:

Whilst it is an RTFM case I think its a reasonable request that when  
distributing the liveCD to have it printed on the CD or CD case.


When it comes to usability its sometimes good to think..."what would  
Apple do?"


Well, they'd wait until they were releasing version 3.0 of a popular  
cellphone UI before deciding it might be a good idea to add copy and  
paste, for a start :)


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Re: [osol-discuss] liveCD login and password

2009-03-15 Thread Shawn Walker

Ché Kristo wrote:

When it comes to usability its sometimes good to think..."what would Apple do?"


I suspect Apple wouldn't let you login or do anything that doesn't have 
a shiny button it, so login information wouldn't even be necessary (it's 
a joke folks, laugh)


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Re: [osol-discuss] liveCD login and password

2009-03-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Ché Kristo  writes:

> Whilst it is an RTFM case I think its a reasonable request that when
> distributing the liveCD to have it printed on the CD or CD case.
>
> When it comes to usability its sometimes good to think..."what would
> Apple do?"

Another way to go at is to think... what does common sense dictate.

I too stumbled around on the passwrd stuff for a time.

The release notes is NOT a good place for that kind of info.  Although
I guess they are kind of obvious... didn't seem like it at the time though.

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Re: [osol-discuss] liveCD login and password

2009-03-15 Thread Ché Kristo
Whilst it is an RTFM case I think its a reasonable request that when 
distributing the liveCD to have it printed on the CD or CD case. 

When it comes to usability its sometimes good to think..."what would Apple do?"
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Re: [osol-discuss] liveCD login and password

2009-03-15 Thread Jeremy Huddleston

Thanks.

But I would argue that you actually *DO* need it in "good"  
conditions.  If you choose the console boot option rather than  
graphical, you need it.  Also, if you choose the graphical option with  
the liveCD, you have no way of shutting down your system without the  
password.  Shutdown from within gnome just logs you out (and then what  
are you supposed to do from there with no login/password).


Having this on a buried errata page is bad.  It should be printed on  
the CD case and clearly visible when you download the liveCD.


Thanks again,
Jeremy

On Mar 14, 2009, at 16:44, Andras Barna wrote:


in *good* conditions you dont need it, right?

you can find it for example here:
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/relnotes/200811/x86/


On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Jeremy Huddleston
 wrote:
I don't see anywhere on this site or on the case containing the  
2008.11 livecd information as to what the login and password are  
for the liveCD.  This should be bold on the CD case.  How are we  
supposed to guess it?

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Re: [osol-discuss] liveCD login and password

2009-03-14 Thread NAKAJI Hiroyuki
> In <56dc2e760903141644n76bf1252u4eb2020a71ebe...@mail.gmail.com> 
>   Andras Barna  wrote:

> in *good* conditions you dont need it, right?

Yes. But, my servers from Dell or NEC are not in *good* conditions. :)
For example, Solaris 10u6 can run on Dell Poweredge T105 but OS2008.11
cannot, and, on NEC Express5800/110Gd, osol-0906-108-x86.iso does not
boot. Very interesting.
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Re: [osol-discuss] liveCD login and password

2009-03-14 Thread Andras Barna
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Jeremy Huddleston
 wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> But I would argue that you actually *DO* need it in "good" conditions.  If
> you choose the console boot option rather than graphical, you need it.
>  Also, if you choose the graphical option with the liveCD, you have no way
> of shutting down your system without the password.  Shutdown from within
> gnome just logs you out (and then what are you supposed to do from there
> with no login/password).
>

what about: pfexec reboot ?

> Having this on a buried errata page is bad.  It should be printed on the CD
> case and clearly visible when you download the liveCD.
>

ok.. i searched a bit more:

opensolaris.com -> learn -> specification -> Getting Started with
OpenSolaris 2008.11 guide. -> Installing the OpenSolaris 2008.11
Release -> Installing OpenSolaris 2008.11 from the Live CD ->
1. To start the installer from the Live CD desktop, select the
Installer icon on the Live CD desktop.
Note - If you are prompted to log in to the Live CD, both the user
name and password are jack. The root password is opensolaris.

:)

> Thanks again,
> Jeremy
>
> On Mar 14, 2009, at 16:44, Andras Barna wrote:
>
>> in *good* conditions you dont need it, right?
>>
>> you can find it for example here:
>> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/relnotes/200811/x86/
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Jeremy Huddleston
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't see anywhere on this site or on the case containing the 2008.11
>>> livecd information as to what the login and password are for the liveCD.
>>>  This should be bold on the CD case.  How are we supposed to guess it?
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Re: [osol-discuss] liveCD login and password

2009-03-14 Thread Andras Barna
in *good* conditions you dont need it, right?

you can find it for example here:
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/relnotes/200811/x86/


On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Jeremy Huddleston
 wrote:
> I don't see anywhere on this site or on the case containing the 2008.11 
> livecd information as to what the login and password are for the liveCD.  
> This should be bold on the CD case.  How are we supposed to guess it?
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[osol-discuss] liveCD login and password

2009-03-14 Thread Jeremy Huddleston
I don't see anywhere on this site or on the case containing the 2008.11 livecd 
information as to what the login and password are for the liveCD.  This should 
be bold on the CD case.  How are we supposed to guess it?
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