[opensuse] vote on Lenovo

[jdd]

On the lenovo blog, there is right now a vote to know what 
distribution is best fit for install on they computers.


you should go and vote :-) (no login necessary)

http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=98

notice than they only setup initially "SUSE", but somebody add 
"openSUSE" - there is also SLED


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Re: [opensuse] No openSUSE 10.4

[Tom Patton]

On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 08:32 +0200, jdd wrote:
> Felix Miata wrote:
> 
> > Maybe this time we can get rid of the point release silliness like Fedora
> > did. Call it 11. Call the next 12, and the next 13
> 
> true. the .x should be reserved to minor fixes (like the second dvd 
> set recently)
> 
> jdd
> 
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the street and I rush out to buy it.  Then I swear again ...

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Re: [opensuse] Intel 965G and 1680 x 1050

[Ron Eggler]

On Friday 14 September 2007 08:36:51 pm Rajko M. wrote:
> On Friday 14 September 2007 22:26, Ron Eggler wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > Okay, what i did is:
> > i commented out all the Modlines in section Mode in xorg.conf so i only
> > have following uncommenrted:
> > Modeline"1680x1050_60.00"  147.14  1680 1784 1968 2256  1050 1051 1054
> > 1087  -HSync +Vsync
> > i also patched mode 41 with 915 resolution to 1680x1050.
> > I went in runlevel 3
> > checked patched mode with 915resolution and started x back up with
> > "startx" (had to change to runlevel 5 before - of course)
> > My KDE loaded back up as it used to with 1280 x 1024.
> > So which log files do help us now further by telling us more details?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Ron
>
> If X server can't find any applicable resolution it will pick one for you.
> The file that can give idea is
>   /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> it stores last run of X server.

Wow, lots of information there - hard to find the useful tho.
Anyways, i try to filter:
On the bottom it says 1000 times "(WW) Open ACPI failed 
(/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)" adding a new line all ~5 
seconds... No idea why that is, i have acpid installed anyways, above these 
messages i see following:

(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(**) FBDEV(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16
(==) FBDEV(0): RGB weight 565
(==) FBDEV(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) FBDEV(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(II) FBDEV(0): hardware: VESA VGA (video memory: 7616kB)
(**) FBDEV(0): Option "ShadowFB"
(II) FBDEV(0): checking modes against framebuffer device...
(II) FBDEV(0):  mode "1680x1050" not found

this is interesting...why not? i had patched it (915resolution still tells me 
mode 41 would be 1680x1050) - May it have a connnection with the framebuffer 
device? :o

(II) FBDEV(0): checking modes against monitor...
(--) FBDEV(0): Virtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 1280)
(**) FBDEV(0):  Built-in mode "current": 131.1 MHz, 80.3 kHz, 76.6 Hz
(II) FBDEV(0): Modeline "current"  131.09  1280 1312 1472 1632  1024 1028 1032 
1048 -hsync -vsync -csync
(**) FBDEV(0): Display dimensions: (474, 296) mm
(**) FBDEV(0): DPI set to (68, 87)
(II) Loading sub module "fb"
(II) LoadModule: "fb"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so
(II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 7.1.99.902, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.3
(**) FBDEV(0): using shadow framebuffer
(II) Loading sub module "shadow"
(II) LoadModule: "shadow"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libshadow.so
(II) Module shadow: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 7.1.99.902, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.3
(II) do I need RAC?  No, I don't.
(II) resource ranges after preInit:
[0] 0   0   0xd000 - 0xdfff (0x1000) MX[B]

...
...
...
[38] 0  0   0x03c0 - 0x03df (0x20) IS[B]
(EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Invalid argument
(==) FBDEV(0): Backing store disabled
(==) RandR enabled
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
(II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
(II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
(II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP
(II) Initializing built-in extension XAccessControlExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont
(II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
(II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
(II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
(II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE
(EE) AIGLX: DRI module not loaded
(II) Loading local sub module "GLcore"
(II) LoadModule: "GLcore"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libGLcore.so
(II) Module GLcore: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 7.1.99.902, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) GLX: Initialized MESA-PROXY GL provider for screen 0
(**) Option "CoreKeyboard"
(**) Keyboard[0]: Core Keyboard
(**) Option "Protocol" "Standard"
(**) Keyboard[0]: Protocol: Standard
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) Keyboard[0]: XkbRules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
(**) Keyboard[0]: XkbModel: "pc104"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) Keyboard[0]: XkbLayout: "us"
(**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off"
(**) Keyboard[0]: CustomKeycodes disabled
(**) Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
(**) Mouse[1]: Device: "/dev/input/mice"
(**) Mouse[1]: Protocol: "explorerps/2"
(**) Option "CorePointer"
(**) Mouse[1]: Core Pointer
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
(**) Option "Buttons" "5"
(==) Mouse[1]: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
(**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
(**) Mouse[1]: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Mouse[1]: Buttons: 9
(II) XINPUT: Ad

Re: [opensuse] Intel 965G and 1680 x 1050

[Rajko M.]

On Friday 14 September 2007 22:26, Ron Eggler wrote:
> David,
>
> Okay, what i did is:
> i commented out all the Modlines in section Mode in xorg.conf so i only
> have following uncommenrted:
> Modeline  "1680x1050_60.00"  147.14  1680 1784 1968 2256  1050 1051 1054
> 1087  -HSync +Vsync
> i also patched mode 41 with 915 resolution to 1680x1050.
> I went in runlevel 3
> checked patched mode with 915resolution and started x back up with "startx"
> (had to change to runlevel 5 before - of course)
> My KDE loaded back up as it used to with 1280 x 1024.
> So which log files do help us now further by telling us more details?
>
> Thanks!
> Ron

If X server can't find any applicable resolution it will pick one for you. 
The file that can give idea is 
  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
it stores last run of X server. 

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Re: [opensuse] Intel 965G and 1680 x 1050

[Ron Eggler]

David,

Okay, what i did is:
i commented out all the Modlines in section Mode in xorg.conf so i only have 
following uncommenrted:
Modeline"1680x1050_60.00"  147.14  1680 1784 1968 2256  1050 1051 1054 
1087  -HSync +Vsync
i also patched mode 41 with 915 resolution to 1680x1050.
I went in runlevel 3
checked patched mode with 915resolution and started x back up with "startx" 
(had to change to runlevel 5 before - of course)
My KDE loaded back up as it used to with 1280 x 1024.
So which log files do help us now further by telling us more details?

Thanks!
Ron


On Friday 14 September 2007 02:57:06 pm David C. Rankin wrote:
> Ron Eggler wrote:
> > On Thursday 13 September 2007 05:17:22 pm David C. Rankin wrote:
> >> Ron Eggler wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 11 September 2007 07:13:22 pm Ron Eggler wrote:
>  [snip]
> 
> > So do this as root:
> >
> > # 915resolution 43 1680 1050 24
> >
> > Then run 915resolution again to check to see if it worked and you
> > should get:
> >
> > # 915resolution -l
> >
> > Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel
> > Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel
> > Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel
> > Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel
> > Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel
> > Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel
> > Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel
> > Mode 43 : 1680x1050, 24 bits/pixel
> > Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel
> > Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel
> > Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel
> > Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel
> > Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel
> > Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel
> > Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel
> > Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel
> > Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel
> > Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel
> >
> > #
> >
> > Your mode is then patched, you have made the changes to xorg.conf, so
> > just restart X, then if you don't default to 1680x1050, you will then
> > be able to set it in Yast because 1680x1050 will then appear as a
> > resolution option for sax2.
> >
> > I know this stuff can be frustrating, but often it is a "forest for
> > the trees issue" and once you get it, you will see how simple it is.
> >
> > Good luck again!
> >
> > More information at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269052
> 
>  Ok David, I patched and  915resolution -l gave exactly above ouput
>  ...i started sax2 to enter the mode but the drop-down to change the
>  resolution and the color depth were disabled :o Anyways, i opened
>  xorg.conf and wanted to change the screen section myself. i put
>  1680x1050 in every mode and put defaultdepth 24 - restarted x and it
>  came back up all screwed-up :( How do I "connect" the xserver to the
>  patched BIOS mode?
> >>>
> >>> When I start Sax2 it actually says: "The configuration is Framebuffer
> >>> based and your system does not support changes for resolution and/or
> >>> color settings." -  Huh? What's this, anyways, i created a new modline
> >>> with gtf: desktop-reg:/home/reg # gtf 1680 1050 60 -x
> >>>
> >>>   # 1680x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 147.14 MHz
> >>>   Modeline "1680x1050_60.00"  147.14  1680 1784 1968 2256  1050 1051
> >>> 1054 1087  -HSync +Vsync
> >>>
> >>> But I'm not really sure if i should put it in there since it looks
> >>> quite different to the other modes and i don't wanna break my
> >>> monitor... my other lines look like this:
> >>>   Modeline"1280x1024" 141.82 1280 1376 1512 1744 1024 1025 1028 
> >>> 1070
> >>>   Modeline"1280x1024" 130.17 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 
> >>> 1066
> >>>   Modeline"1280x1024" 120.01 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 
> >>> 1063
> >>>   Modeline"1280x1024" 114.50 1280 1328 1360 1440 1024 1027 1034 
> >>> 1061
> >>> +HSync -VSync
> >>>   Modeline"1280x1024" 108.88 1280 1360 1496 1712 1024 1025 1028 
> >>> 1060
> >>>
> >>> Not sure if should just add it on top.
> >>>
> >>> Seems like i'm stuck again. Thanks for any further information!
> >>
> >> I think this will do it for you:
> >>
> >> from: /915resolution/README.txt
> >>
> >> 6. My xorg.conf has the following screen definition :
> >>
> >> Section "Screen"
> >>   Identifier  "Screen 1"
> >>   Device  "device"
> >>   Monitor "LCD"
> >>   DefaultDepth 16
> >>
> >>   Subsection "Display"
> >> Depth   16
> >> Modes   "1280x800"
> >>   EndSubsection
> >> EndSection
> >>
> >> 7. 915resolution must run before the X server is started.
> >> ^
> >> (That means EVERY time and with [mode] [w] [h] [color])
> >>
> >>  So I don't need to
> >>  do this every time I put it in my startup scripts.  Where these
> >> scripts
> >>  are very from distribution to distribution

Re: [opensuse] find problem

[Jeffrey L. Taylor]

Quoting Kenneth Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Can someone explain the following "find" error. The "path" is specified
> by the "." in the command line.
> 
> find . -name *copy_3* -exec rm {}\;
>
Try:

find . -name "*copy_3*" -exec rm \{} \;
 
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Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's

[Felix Miata]

On 2007/09/14 21:44 (GMT-0400) Bob S apparently typed:

> On Friday 14 September 2007 07:41, Carlos E. R. wrote:

>> You can label plain partitions, and use the label for mounting instead of
>> the device name. In fstab:

>> LABEL=320_home1 /home xfs noatime,nodiratime 1 2
>> LABEL=320_home2 /home2 reiserfs noatime,nodiratime,user,acl,user_xattr  1 2

> OK Peter & Carlos.

> We shall see.

It's how my Factory system's fstab and grub are setup to boot. Partition
labels are required in Fedora 7.
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Re: [opensuse] crontab problem? How to debug?

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 19:14 -0500, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
> Quoting Peter Van Lone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On 9/14/07, Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Not incorrect, different. The path, and other environment variables, that
> > > programs running as cron jobs get are different that what they get when
> > > running normally. Whether this is a problem or not depends on each
> > > particular script, program, whatever. That's why some usually declare
> > > their own path inside the script.
> > 
> > well since the exact same script works from shell (logged in as same
> > user) but not from crontab ... then that would seem to suggest
> > somthing about the crontab env specifically, correct?
> 
> Cron runs programs directly, not thru the shell.

Ah, yes it does it uses a non-interactive shell. IIRC it uses bash by
default but you can specify the shell used with the hash bang directive
on the first line:

#!/bin/

And then specify other shell env settings to your liking.

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Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS

[Rajko M.]

On Friday 14 September 2007 13:35, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > They tell that explicitely that is dangerous when you run fsck.
>
> The only time I ever ran fsck.reiserfs was after crashes
> (boot up would detect that the fs was "stale" and ran it
> automatically...leaving unresolved errors, which would dump
> the system into run-level S and force me to run fsck.reiserfs
> again manually, until there were no more unresolved errors).

What year that happened Aaron? 
I remember once it happened with very early version, and after that I used 
ext2 for a while. When reiserfs became default I installed it again and ever 
since I'm happy user. Blackout doesn't mean fsck every time. 

> Perhaps the default behavior on Reiserfs was wrong? 

Could be. 
As you can read in the article reiserfs is easy to signal panic if hardware is 
bad. Other file systems are not that easy at halting the system. Taking that 
running fsck.reiserfs under circumstances is equivalent to mkfs.reiserfs as 
proponents of ext3 like to underscore, signaling panic to often is not the 
best strategy, although I can't say that since I installed it again I had 
sudden kernel panic (computer freeze) ever. 

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[opensuse] Re: find problem

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:22:14 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:

>Can someone explain the following "find" error. The "path" is specified
>by the "." in the command line.
>
>find . -name *copy_3* -exec rm {}\;
>
>find: paths must precede expression

*Always* quote arguments when using wildcards. And if you expect find
to find a larger number of files, it's more economic to do

find . -name \*copy_3\* -print0|xargs -0 rm

because you then call rm less often, most likely only once and not for
every single file.

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Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's

[Bob S]

On Friday 14 September 2007 07:41, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Friday 2007-09-14 at 00:06 -0400, Peter Sjoberg wrote:
> > > It must be a mess. And how
> > > about naming volumes, they all have to be unique no?
> > > So what does /etc
> > > or /var or whatever become when you install. Or do you just make
> > > disk1p5 and disk1p6 large enough to hold everything? And what about
> > > ubuntuor fedora or whatever. They all have /home, /var, etc. etc.
> >
> > If you think about it, it's not that much different then when using
> > plain partitions. When you have one disk you are forced to call every
> > partition sda1, sda2 and so on up to sda15. If you now install 4
> > different os versions, how do you keep track of what partition that
> > is /var for each os?
>
> You can label plain partitions, and use the label for mounting instead of
> the device name. In fstab:
>
> LABEL=320_home1/home xfsnoatime,nodiratime 
> 1 2 LABEL=320_home2/home2reiserfs  
> noatime,nodiratime,user,acl,user_xattr  1 2
>
> --
> Cheers,
>Carlos E. R.

OK Peter & Carlos.

We shall see.

Bob S
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Re: [opensuse] crontab problem? How to debug?

[Jeffrey L. Taylor]

Quoting Peter Van Lone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 9/14/07, Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Not incorrect, different. The path, and other environment variables, that
> > programs running as cron jobs get are different that what they get when
> > running normally. Whether this is a problem or not depends on each
> > particular script, program, whatever. That's why some usually declare
> > their own path inside the script.
> 
> well since the exact same script works from shell (logged in as same
> user) but not from crontab ... then that would seem to suggest
> somthing about the crontab env specifically, correct?

Cron runs programs directly, not thru the shell.  IIRC, if you use
file globbing or other shell specific special characters, cron will
call the shell to call the program.  Or you can explicitly invoke the
shell, e.g.:

/bin/sh -c "/home/user/cronjob arg1"

HTH,
  Jeff
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Re: [opensuse] ftp.gwdg.de & zypper problem

[Theo v. Werkhoven]

Sat, 15 Sep 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> Hi  list,
> 
> I'm having trouble with zypper:
[..]

Forgot:
zypper-0.6.15-0.2
o_S 10.2

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[opensuse] ftp.gwdg.de & zypper problem

[Theo v. Werkhoven]

Hi  list,

I'm having trouble with zypper:
$ sudo zypper lu
theo's password:
Restoring system sources...
Parsing metadata for 20070107-213838...
Parsing metadata for 20070625-153006...
Parsing metadata for 20070712-103445...
Parsing metadata for 20070107-213218...
Parsing metadata for 20070114-011130...
Invalid object: Can't open
/var/lib/zypp/cache/Source.tsmOrA/DATA/descr/packages
Unexpected exception.
Can't parse packages file: Can't open
/var/lib/zypp/cache/Source.tsmOrA/DATA/descr/packages
Please file a bug report about this.
See http://en.opensuse.org/Zypper#Troubleshooting for instructions.

zypper log says:
[..]
ferrets4me(13862) [susetags] SuseTagsImpl.cc(providePackages):728 Going to parse
 /var/lib/zypp/cache/Source.tsmOrA/DATA/descr/packages
ferrets4me(13862) [susetags] PackagesParser.cc(parsePackages):381 Starting to 
parse packages
 /var/lib/zypp/cache/Source.tsmOrA/DATA/descr/packages
ferrets4me(13862) [base] Exception.cc(log):94 TagFileParser.cc(parse):104 THROW:
 TagFileParser.cc(parse):104: Can't open
/var/lib/zypp/cache/Source.tsmOrA/DATA/descr/packages
 ferrets4me(13862) [base] Exception.cc(log):94 
PackagesParser.cc(parsePackages):389 CAUGHT:
  TagFileParser.cc(parse):104: Can't open
/var/lib/zypp/cache/Source.tsmOrA/DATA/descr/packages
 ferrets4me(13862) [susetags] PackagesParser.cc(parsePackages):390 Source 
[20070114-011130] at
  URL:[ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/non-oss/]
   has a broken packages file.

Anyone else having problems with gwdg as install source?

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[opensuse] usbdevice_fs.h & compiler.h

[Dave Howorth]

I have an application (ftpd-topfield) that worked on Suse 9.3. I'm
trying to compile the current version on Suse 10.2 but it's failing:

/usr/include/linux/usbdevice_fs.h:49: error: expected ':', ',', ';', '}'
or '__attribute__' before '*' token

Line 49 is: void __user *data;

The application is including usbdevice_fs.h but it doesn't compile
because the __user macro isn't defined. That macro is defined in
linux/compiler.h. So something should be including that but isn't. The
question is, what should include compiler.h?

Last year Johannes Meixner said that it should be included by an
application (hplip) on Suse 10.1:


But I gather that in some current systems, the include is done by
usbdevice_fs.h itself. I'm wondering what the current Suse viewpoint is?
Should I file a bug against the application or should I modify
usbdevice_fs.h? I can't find anything on Novell bugzilla against
usbdevice_fs.h.

Thanks and regards,
Dave
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Re: [opensuse] Script fails for unknown reason

[Theo v. Werkhoven]

Thu, 13 Sep 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> On Thursday 13 September 2007 22:18:17 Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
> > Weirdly enough, despite this check, sometimes it still happens that the
> > service doesn't restart, but only on an openSUSE10.0 install with
> > vsftpd-2.0.3-6
> > When I use the management script at home, on openSUSE 10.2 and with
> > vsftpd-2.0.5-24 the restart always succeeds the first time without a
> > hitch.
> 
> Off the top of my head, could it be that port 21 is still in use (by an open 
> session perhaps) so it can't bind to the port?

Not likely. And there would be an error in the logs if it was the
case afaik.

> But is this really necessary just because an account is added, deleted or 
> changed? vsftpd uses pam, so it should get updated properly just like any 
> other service

You know what? You were right.. I thought I read somewhere that a
restart was needed, but it isn't, a change in the db is implemented
immediate.
That saves me yet another headache.

Thanks Anders and Joe, have a good weekend.

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Re: [opensuse] Vanishing YaST printers

[Buddy Coffey]

Carlos E. R. wrote:
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> The Friday 2007-09-14 at 15:36 -0400, Buddy Coffey wrote:
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>   
>> Using openSuSE 10.2, I installed a set of printers using YaST with no
>> problem.  But when I go back to modify the settings, YaST detects no
>> printers.
>>
>> The printers are still on the system as I can print fine.
>>
>> Any hints?
>> 
>
> You could try the cups http interface: 
>
>   
Yes, that works fine and is how I knew my printers were still working. 
I just wonder how to recover the YaST info.

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Re: [opensuse] The SCO Group Files Chapter 11 to Protect Assets as It Addresses Potential Financial and Legal Challenges

[Michael Folsom]

Why is it that interesting things always happen late on Friday afternoons --:-;

Anyway, over at Groklaw they already have stuff up - see:
  http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070914152904577

One interesting tidbit, she says, in the doc that lists creditors -
"Novell is not listed as a creditor".

Hm!!!

Looks like a big stall to me -

Sad for the worker bees at SCO -

However, I do hope Novell demands total liquidation of all SCO's
assets ( if they actually have any )!


Michael

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Re: [opensuse] Intel 965G and 1680 x 1050

[David C. Rankin]

Ron Eggler wrote:
> On Thursday 13 September 2007 05:17:22 pm David C. Rankin wrote:
>> Ron Eggler wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 11 September 2007 07:13:22 pm Ron Eggler wrote:
 [snip]

> So do this as root:
>
> # 915resolution 43 1680 1050 24
>
> Then run 915resolution again to check to see if it worked and you
> should get:
>
> # 915resolution -l
>
> Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel
> Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel
> Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel
> Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel
> Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel
> Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel
> Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel
> Mode 43 : 1680x1050, 24 bits/pixel
> Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel
> Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel
> Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel
> Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel
> Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel
> Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel
> Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel
> Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel
> Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel
> Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel
>
> #
>
> Your mode is then patched, you have made the changes to xorg.conf, so
> just restart X, then if you don't default to 1680x1050, you will then
> be able to set it in Yast because 1680x1050 will then appear as a
> resolution option for sax2.
>
> I know this stuff can be frustrating, but often it is a "forest for the
> trees issue" and once you get it, you will see how simple it is.
>
> Good luck again!
>
> More information at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269052
 Ok David, I patched and  915resolution -l gave exactly above ouput ...i
 started sax2 to enter the mode but the drop-down to change the
 resolution and the color depth were disabled :o Anyways, i opened
 xorg.conf and wanted to change the screen section myself. i put
 1680x1050 in every mode and put defaultdepth 24 - restarted x and it
 came back up all screwed-up :( How do I "connect" the xserver to the
 patched BIOS mode?
>>> When I start Sax2 it actually says: "The configuration is Framebuffer
>>> based and your system does not support changes for resolution and/or
>>> color settings." -  Huh? What's this, anyways, i created a new modline
>>> with gtf: desktop-reg:/home/reg # gtf 1680 1050 60 -x
>>>
>>>   # 1680x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 147.14 MHz
>>>   Modeline "1680x1050_60.00"  147.14  1680 1784 1968 2256  1050 1051 1054
>>> 1087  -HSync +Vsync
>>>
>>> But I'm not really sure if i should put it in there since it looks quite
>>> different to the other modes and i don't wanna break my monitor...
>>> my other lines look like this:
>>>   Modeline  "1280x1024" 141.82 1280 1376 1512 1744 1024 1025 1028 1070
>>>   Modeline  "1280x1024" 130.17 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1066
>>>   Modeline  "1280x1024" 120.01 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1063
>>>   Modeline  "1280x1024" 114.50 1280 1328 1360 1440 1024 1027 1034 1061
>>> +HSync -VSync
>>>   Modeline  "1280x1024" 108.88 1280 1360 1496 1712 1024 1025 1028 1060
>>>
>>> Not sure if should just add it on top.
>>>
>>> Seems like i'm stuck again. Thanks for any further information!
>> I think this will do it for you:
>>
>> from: /915resolution/README.txt
>>
>> 6. My xorg.conf has the following screen definition :
>>
>> Section "Screen"
>>   Identifier  "Screen 1"
>>   Device  "device"
>>   Monitor "LCD"
>>   DefaultDepth 16
>>
>>   Subsection "Display"
>> Depth   16
>> Modes   "1280x800"
>>   EndSubsection
>> EndSection
>>
>> 7. 915resolution must run before the X server is started.
>> ^
>> (That means EVERY time and with [mode] [w] [h] [color])
>>
>>  So I don't need to
>>  do this every time I put it in my startup scripts.  Where these
>> scripts
>>  are very from distribution to distribution.  I'm running SUSE
>> 9.2, so I
>>  put the definition in /etc/init.d/boot.local:
>>
>> #! /bin/sh
>> #
>> # Copyright (c) 2002 SuSE Linux AG Nuernberg, Germany.  All
>> rights reserved.
>> #
>> # Author: Werner Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 1996
>> # Burchard Steinbild, 1996
>> #
>> # /etc/init.d/boot.local
>> #
>> # script with local commands to be executed from init on system
>> startup
>> #
>> # Here you should add things, that should happen directly after
>> booting
>> # before we're going to the first run level.
>> #
>>
>> /usr/bin/915resolution 38 1280 800
>>
>>  8.  Start up the X server
>>
>>
>> Now I bet you have solved the puzzle and have a very good looking
>> display
>>
>>
> Maan,
> 
> I'm getting desperate. I feel as if i've tried everythingdo i n

[opensuse] The SCO Group Files Chapter 11 to Protect Assets as It Addresses Potential Financial and Legal Challenges

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http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/LAF04014092007-1.htm

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Re: [opensuse] Vanishing YaST printers

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The Friday 2007-09-14 at 15:36 -0400, Buddy Coffey wrote:

> Using openSuSE 10.2, I installed a set of printers using YaST with no
> problem.  But when I go back to modify the settings, YaST detects no
> printers.
> 
> The printers are still on the system as I can print fine.
> 
> Any hints?

You could try the cups http interface: 

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Re: [opensuse] PCI-e graphics card

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 13:21 -0700, Ron Eggler wrote:
> On Friday September 14 2007, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > You also hijacked my thread! Please DO-NOT simply hit reply to ask a new
> > question, start with a NEW email. The simplest way is to click on the
> > list address in the To: field.
> 
> Yes, I'm sorry, won't do it anymore!
> 
> Ron

Not a problem Ron. A lot of people search the list archives and it just
looks screwy there. Plus some people on the list don't reply to
hi-jacked threads. A good way to reply to a posting on the list, since
you are using Kmail, is just hit the letter l which stands for
reply-to-list. This list is a very good source of info.

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Re: [opensuse] PCI-e graphics card

[Ron Eggler]

On Friday September 14 2007, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> You also hijacked my thread! Please DO-NOT simply hit reply to ask a new
> question, start with a NEW email. The simplest way is to click on the
> list address in the To: field.

Yes, I'm sorry, won't do it anymore!

Ron
>
> On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 10:55 -0700, Ron Eggler wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Since I'm experiencing big problems getting my onboard intel i965G to
> > display 1680x1050 i consider to get a new graphics card.
> > Now, does anyone have experience with some PCIe graphics card that is
> > able to display this resolution in Linux? Would be nice if the card was
> > dual headed. And it should be reasonable priced. :)
> >
> > Thanks for suggestions and hints,
> >
> > Ron :)
>
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[opensuse] Re: PCI-e graphics card

[Jonathan Arnold]

(Please don't hijack another message's thread. This means don't do a 'reply' and
just change the subject, as it screws up the threading.)

Ron Eggler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since I'm experiencing big problems getting my onboard intel i965G to display 
> 1680x1050 i consider to get a new graphics card.
> Now, does anyone have experience with some PCIe graphics card that is able to 
> display this resolution in Linux? Would be nice if the card was dual headed. 
> And it should be reasonable priced. :)

I just picked up an nVidia 8600GT card and can compare it pretty directly with
the ATI x850 I have in my other machine:

1] I think the ATI worked better "out of the box". It has worked so well, I 
haven't
needed to install the ATI proprietary drivers. My dual monitor setup has worked 
well.

2] The nVidia required the proprietary drivers in order to be at all 
functional. The
standard ones were incredibly slow and didn't do my dual monitors. 
Installation, while
not painless, wasn't too bad. I installed the packages as indicated here and 
then
did an 'init 3' and a 'sax -r' and all was good.

http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA

As the fancy new 3D desktops don't really work with dual monitors (yet?), and I 
don't do
Linux gaming, I think in the future I will go with ATI. I can't really comment 
on the
3d Linux performance of either card.

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Re: [opensuse] PCI-e graphics card

[Kenneth Schneider]

You also hijacked my thread! Please DO-NOT simply hit reply to ask a new
question, start with a NEW email. The simplest way is to click on the
list address in the To: field.


On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 10:55 -0700, Ron Eggler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since I'm experiencing big problems getting my onboard intel i965G to display 
> 1680x1050 i consider to get a new graphics card.
> Now, does anyone have experience with some PCIe graphics card that is able to 
> display this resolution in Linux? Would be nice if the card was dual headed. 
> And it should be reasonable priced. :)
> 
> Thanks for suggestions and hints,
> 
> Ron :)
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[opensuse] Vanishing YaST printers

[Buddy Coffey]

Using openSuSE 10.2, I installed a set of printers using YaST with no
problem.  But when I go back to modify the settings, YaST detects no
printers.

The printers are still on the system as I can print fine.

Any hints?

Buddy Coffey
Applied Research Associates
Computational and Applied Electromagnetics
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Re: [opensuse] 3.25" disk and memory card reader recommendations

[Aaron Kulkis]

Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:

Hi,

I have a need for an external device that is primarily OpenSUSE
compatible and that will enable me to read and write to legacy
stiffy(3.25") disks. An added option would for the device to be able to
read/write on a range of memory cards as well.

The requirement for this stems from the fact that I have some amateur
radio as well as Quicken 98 data backup files on stiffy disk as the
applications at the time did not know or cold not write to a USB memory
stick.

I have a USB port available and with the various memory disks out there,
wouldn't mind if the device could also support some of them as well.

  


In Iraq, I picked up some 2.5" laptop drives, and put them
in USB carriers.  You get about 10x as much storage space
for the amount of money you spend.


I have visited the HCL at OpenSuSE and found  Ultra 7-in-1 Digital Media
Drive - Floppy disk drive / card reader - Floppy/Hi-Speed USB
Manufacturer: ULTRA Products
Part number: ULT31799

Looks almost like an internal unit and I am looking for external one
with connection via a USB cable. Another problem is that I will have to
import it from Amazon to South Africa.

I also hope it is 10.2 compatible.

Any comments/advice/experience with other devices folks, especially
since the item must be available in South Africa.

Regards
Hylton
  




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Re: [opensuse] wikipedia site in opera browser

[Thierry de Coulon]

On Friday, 14. September 2007, Istvan Gabor wrote:
>
> I forgot to mention that I tried opera on windows machines
> and this hangup does not occur in windows either. But I have
> not not tried other linux versions and other opera versions
> than suse's default so I don't know if this problem is suse
> specific or not.

No problem here (Sabayon Linux, opera 9.20)

Thierry

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[opensuse] dell inspiron 1420?

[Nick Zentena]

Howdy,
I noticed sites are claiming that Dell needed to release a special 
Ubuntu 
build for this notebook. I also found some claims OpenSuse 10.2 isn't fully 
supported.

Any body had to deal with this machine? How about the 10.3 beta?

Thanks
Nick
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Re: [opensuse] Buffalo wireless notebook adapter drivers

[Kai Ponte]

On Friday 14 September 2007 11:53, Bob Williams wrote:
> The device is a Buffalo AirStation 125* High Speed Notebook Adapter
> WLI-CB-G54S

this is a good site to go...

http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/

...other than that you might check with the vendor directly.

Barring any information you can setup the Wintendo driver under Linux...

http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Ndiswrapper

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Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS

[Aaron Kulkis]

Rajko M. wrote:

On Friday 14 September 2007 00:12, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
  

Hans Witvliet wrote:



  

In my experience, reiserfs is not safe. It frequently fails
(corruption and/or file loss) in the event of improper shutdown
such as power failure or system crash.

Conversely, in Iraq, where I experienced frequent power-related
shutdowns, and a couple crashes (due to I think, running out of
swap space), I never lost a single file using ext3 and xfs.


I could be mistaken, but i thought the use of xfs inherrently required
the use of a no-break power supply, as it holds more data in mem,
  

Both are journalled filesystems, but there seems to be an
implementation error in Reiserfs 3.x, because I had several
fsck failures after power outages.

XFS's journalling mechanism seems (in my experience) to be
much closer to the ideal.  Other people have experienced
losses with XFS, but I'm beginning to believe that those
were hardware related (physical defects on the hard drive),
which currently, a problem to which currently all filesystems
are susceptable.



The link   
  http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~vijayan/vijayan-thesis.pdf
is about serious attempt to evaluate files systems. It is long read, even if 
you read only conclusions, but it seems fair. 

You good experience with XFS is a matter of luck or type of work that you do. 
Having UPS is good for any computer if one wants to prevent data loss, but in 
case of XFS is even more important as it keeps big chunks of work in memory, 
and power loss can delete hours of work. File system will be fine, but you 
would have to rewrite all that wasn't saved and that can be a lot. 

You bad experience with reiserfs is probably partially due to fsck. 
That FS is not well suited to hold backup of another reiserfs, because if it 
has to do fsck, both main FS and backed up can be mixed up in one mess. 
I don't have handy article about this, but 
  fsck.reiserfs
is not what you want to do on regular basis. 
They tell that explicitely that is dangerous when you run fsck.
  

The only time I ever ran fsck.reiserfs was after crashes
(boot up would detect that the fs was "stale" and ran it
automatically...leaving unresolved errors, which would dump
the system into run-level S and force me to run fsck.reiserfs
again manually, until there were no more unresolved errors).

Perhaps the default behavior on Reiserfs was wrong?

Judging from what you wrote



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[opensuse] Buffalo wireless notebook adapter drivers

[Bob Williams]

I've just been helping a friend install openSUSE 10.2 on her laptop. All went 
well until we tried to configure the wireless adapter, which grumbled about 
needing linux drivers. Unfortunately, there are only Windows drivers on the 
vendor's website.

The device is a Buffalo AirStation 125* High Speed Notebook Adapter
WLI-CB-G54S

Has anybody had any experience with setting this up under linux?
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Re: [opensuse] PCI-e graphics card

[Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru)]

Hi, Ron,

Just take any nvidia card, i.e. geforce 7300, it costs close to nothing. As 
for me, I am now use 8600GT (fanless).


On Friday 14 September 2007 20:55:16 Ron Eggler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Since I'm experiencing big problems getting my onboard intel i965G to
> display 1680x1050 i consider to get a new graphics card.
> Now, does anyone have experience with some PCIe graphics card that is able
> to display this resolution in Linux? Would be nice if the card was dual
> headed. And it should be reasonable priced. :)
>
> Thanks for suggestions and hints,
>
> Ron :)

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Re: [opensuse] wikipedia site in opera browser

[Istvan Gabor]

> Hello list users:
> 
> Whenever I open http://www.wikipedia.org with opera web 
> browser (currently default suse opera-9.23-3.2 on 
openSUSE 
> 10.2) there is a 20-40 sec (depending on computer) 
hangup. 
> During this time opera does not respond. In firefox this 
hangup 
> does not occur.
> What can cause this and how it could be fixed?
> Also please check the wikipedia site if you can confirm 
this 
> behavior.
> 
> Thanks,
> IG

I forgot to mention that I tried opera on windows machines 
and this hangup does not occur in windows either. But I have 
not not tried other linux versions and other opera versions 
than suse's default so I don't know if this problem is suse 
specific or not.



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Re: [opensuse] PCI-e graphics card

[Clayton]

> Since I'm experiencing big problems getting my onboard intel i965G to display
> 1680x1050 i consider to get a new graphics card.
> Now, does anyone have experience with some PCIe graphics card that is able to
> display this resolution in Linux? Would be nice if the card was dual headed.
> And it should be reasonable priced. :)
>
> Thanks for suggestions and hints,

There are more choices than you can shake a proverbial stick at.  One
thing you haven't stated is what you want from such a card.  Is it
only for normal desktop use? or are you wanting it also for OpenGL
stuff.. like gaming and Compiz-Fusion?

Both nVidia and ATI are usually good choices.  nVidia has historically
been slightly less problematic getting the binary drivers installed
and working.  With ATI opening up their drivers, this may change in
favor of ATI in the near future... who knows.

For cards, you can keep the expenses down and pick up an older nVidia
6600GT.  The performance is quite good in single or dual head.  I used
a 6600GT for a long time and recently upgraded to a 7600 (even this
card is relatively inexpensive now) .

I'm sure others can chime in here with suggestions for ATI and other brands.

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[opensuse] wikipedia site in opera browser

[Istvan Gabor]

Hello list users:

Whenever I open http://www.wikipedia.org with opera web 
browser (currently default suse opera-9.23-3.2 on openSUSE 
10.2) there is a 20-40 sec (depending on computer) hangup. 
During this time opera does not respond. In firefox this hangup 
does not occur.
What can cause this and how it could be fixed?
Also please check the wikipedia site if you can confirm this 
behavior.

Thanks,
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[opensuse] PCI-e graphics card

[Ron Eggler]

Hi,

Since I'm experiencing big problems getting my onboard intel i965G to display 
1680x1050 i consider to get a new graphics card.
Now, does anyone have experience with some PCIe graphics card that is able to 
display this resolution in Linux? Would be nice if the card was dual headed. 
And it should be reasonable priced. :)

Thanks for suggestions and hints,

Ron :)
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Re: [opensuse] Samba Shares - Home vs. Profile

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Greg Freemyer wrote:
> All,
> 
> I setup a couple internal Samba fileservers for my company about 5
> years ago. (SuSE 8.1 I think originally).
> 
> I don't remember the details but I created a "Homes" share, that when
> viewed from a windows machine showed up as the users login name.
> 
> I just created a new fileserver from scratch (OpenSUSE 10.2).  Instead
> of a Homes share, it has a Profiles share.  It seems similar, but it
> is named Profiles for everyone, even though the underlying share
> appears to be unique per user.
> 
> I suspect I ended up with "Homes" because I told Samba it was part of
> a workgroup.  And I ended up with "Profiles" because I told Samba it
> was going to be the master PDC.  (We are currently workgroup only, but
> I would like to make the new fileserver act as a PDC eventually.)
> 
> So my question is how the 2 shares should be used, and if I should
> keep both or get rid of one.  And maybe someone could provide some
> background of what the Profiles share is really meant to be used for.
> 
> Thanks
> Greg


The Profiles share is for the storing user profiles for things like
roaming profiles. Most NT admins avoid using roaming profiles, but for
setting a global workstation configuration or global default for NT/XP
it can be quite useful. Read up on the profile mechanism before using.

It is not for user data. Homes should map to home directories.

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Re: [opensuse] crontab problem? How to debug?

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The Friday 2007-09-14 at 09:29 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote:

> well since the exact same script works from shell (logged in as same
> user) but not from crontab ... then that would seem to suggest
> somthing about the crontab env specifically, correct?

That's what I thought, yes.


> Where would I look to find what env variables are being set in crontab
> -- or to compare those to what is set for this user in the shell?

Precisely the error email from cron tells you them. The manual page from 
cron and crontab should explain about it.

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Re: [opensuse] find problem

[Randall R Schulz]

On Friday 14 September 2007 10:22, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> Can someone explain the following "find" error. The "path" is
> specified by the "." in the command line.
>
> find . -name *copy_3* -exec rm {}\;
>
> find: paths must precede expression

My guess would be that the current directory contains at least two files 
that match the glob pattern "*copy_3*".

In general, you should quote arguments that have the form of a glob or 
regular expression pattern (or any other special shell syntax):

find . -name '*copy_3*' -exec rm {} \;


Note, too, that the semicolon that tells find where the exec argument 
list ends must be a separate argument.


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Re: [opensuse] find problem

[JP Rosevear]

On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 13:22 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> Can someone explain the following "find" error. The "path" is specified
> by the "." in the command line.
> 
> find . -name *copy_3* -exec rm {}\;
> 
> find: paths must precede expression


It means you have something in . that matches *copy_3* so you get file
expansion.

find . -name \*copy_3\* -exec rm {}\;

or 

find . -name "*copy_3*" -exec rm {}\;

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[opensuse] find problem

[Kenneth Schneider]

Can someone explain the following "find" error. The "path" is specified
by the "." in the command line.

find . -name *copy_3* -exec rm {}\;

find: paths must precede expression

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[opensuse] Samba Shares - Home vs. Profile

[Greg Freemyer]

All,

I setup a couple internal Samba fileservers for my company about 5
years ago. (SuSE 8.1 I think originally).

I don't remember the details but I created a "Homes" share, that when
viewed from a windows machine showed up as the users login name.

I just created a new fileserver from scratch (OpenSUSE 10.2).  Instead
of a Homes share, it has a Profiles share.  It seems similar, but it
is named Profiles for everyone, even though the underlying share
appears to be unique per user.

I suspect I ended up with "Homes" because I told Samba it was part of
a workgroup.  And I ended up with "Profiles" because I told Samba it
was going to be the master PDC.  (We are currently workgroup only, but
I would like to make the new fileserver act as a PDC eventually.)

So my question is how the 2 shares should be used, and if I should
keep both or get rid of one.  And maybe someone could provide some
background of what the Profiles share is really meant to be used for.

Thanks
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[opensuse] bootpd server for sles 9?

[Xn Nooby]

Is there a bootpd server that I can use on SLES9?  SLES9 is based on
SUSE 9.1.   I am in an environment where I cannot run a DHCP server,
so I thought I would try to run bootpd.  I did not see bootpd in YAST.
 It may be possible to rub a DHCP server with BOOTP features turned
on, and the DHCP features turned off.  Otherwise I may need to find
the source for bootpd and build it from scratch.  any suggestions?
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[opensuse] Mysterious vanishing Suspend Button

[Günter Lichtenberg]

Hi -
I have a strange problem with my machine: After a reboot, the 'Suspend' 
button from the KDE log out window (which appears when using the panel 
logout) and also from the Menu were gone. s2disk works for root and also 
resuming after taht is no problem. 

The first time I just rebooted another time and the suspend button was there 
again, so I forgot about it. Now after another reboot, the button is gone 
again. So, now I am curious:

What could be the reason for the transient Suspend button? 
Is there any configuration file I can fix? 

I run opensuse 10.2 x86 with KDE 3.5.5 regularly updated from the backport 
repository. The only thing that is non-standard is that I run beryl and have 
some of  the packman multimedia packages installed (this is my machine at 
work so I am somewhat more conservative). The whole thing happened after we 
switched from NIS to LDAP, my home directory is also on a network drive - 
maybe this is the problem?

On my home machine x86-64 running the latest KDE 3.5.7 I do not have any 
problems.

TIA
gl

 
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Re: [opensuse] crontab problem? How to debug?

[Dave Howorth]

Peter Van Lone wrote:
> well since the exact same script works from shell (logged in as same
> user) but not from crontab ... then that would seem to suggest
> somthing about the crontab env specifically, correct?

Or it isn't the exact same script or exact same user :)

> Where would I look to find what env variables are being set in crontab
> -- or to compare those to what is set for this user in the shell?

Add the following commands to your crontab entry (or the script itself)

  who am i
  whoami
  groups
  ls -l
/home/httpd/htdocs/devestore.ourdomain.com/website/export/order_export.ph

Also see what happens when you run them in the shell. Make sure there
are no differences.

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Re: [opensuse] crontab problem? How to debug?

[Peter Van Lone]

On 9/14/07, Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Not incorrect, different. The path, and other environment variables, that
> programs running as cron jobs get are different that what they get when
> running normally. Whether this is a problem or not depends on each
> particular script, program, whatever. That's why some usually declare
> their own path inside the script.

well since the exact same script works from shell (logged in as same
user) but not from crontab ... then that would seem to suggest
somthing about the crontab env specifically, correct?

Where would I look to find what env variables are being set in crontab
-- or to compare those to what is set for this user in the shell?

> Usually, you look at logs and output. There is no general easy method to
> know which file can't be opened, unless the programs says so clearly.
> Perhaps you can do a "trace" of the program.
>
>¿Can that file,
>
> '/home/httpd/htdocs/devestore.ourdomain.com/website/export/order_export.php'
>be opened? Check all dirs in the path.


I think that the script is reporting that the file cannot be opened
... but from shell is fine.

> I would perhaps write debugging strings to the console or a log file from
> the script so that you can check what the program is really doing. Old
> style ;-)

I will suggest that ... good idea

Wish I knew more about debugging this kind of thing ... I'll go dig
around some, but will probably end up posting back with more
questions!

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Re: [opensuse] crontab problem? How to debug?

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The Friday 2007-09-14 at 08:36 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote:

> > > X-Cron-Env: 
> >
> > Try setting that one.
> >
> 
> Are you saying that the path listed is incorrect? What should it be set to?

Not incorrect, different. The path, and other environment variables, that 
programs running as cron jobs get are different that what they get when 
running normally. Whether this is a problem or not depends on each 
particular script, program, whatever. That's why some usually declare 
their own path inside the script.

It might be what is happening here, or maybe not. It is just a typical 
problem, thus my suggestion.

There is another possibility:

X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 

The php called might not be the one under /home.


> And ... any idea how it might have changed from just a day or two ago,
> when none of the users have modified env settings (or so they say).

Nop. No idea. It could be a small modification in the script.


> One of the website devs thinks it has to do with a "general
> permissions issue" -- whatever that means. How could I verify or
> reject that hypothesis?
> 

No idea...

Usually, you look at logs and output. There is no general easy method to 
know which file can't be opened, unless the programs says so clearly. 
Perhaps you can do a "trace" of the program.

   ¿Can that file, 
   '/home/httpd/htdocs/devestore.ourdomain.com/website/export/order_export.php' 
   be opened? Check all dirs in the path.

I would perhaps write debugging strings to the console or a log file from 
the script so that you can check what the program is really doing. Old 
style ;-)

> finally -- and forgive my ignorance -- but what tool, as root, do I
> use to fix this users X-Cron-Env: variable, if that is, indeed, the
> problem?

The script should define the needed environment vars, or define them in 
the line calling the script. man cron may suggest other possibilities.

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[opensuse] Re: Amarok won't start

[Jonathan Arnold]

Chris Vagionas wrote:
> I have no idea why, but amarok suddenly won't start.
> Every time i try to launch amarok I get the following:
> 
> 14:46 chvagion:~ > amarok
> Amarok: [Loader] Starting amarokapp..
> Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use
> amarokapp.
> 
> Any idea what to do

And that's it? Weird. Those first two lines are standard and always come
up. If it then just returns to the command line, it sounds like amarok is
starting okay but the UI is AWOL. Did you check to see if it is, in fact,
running, by using ps, ksysguard or top?

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[opensuse] Kontact / Kmail crashing (SIGSEGV 11)

[Martin Mielke]

Hi all,

after upgrading to KDE 3.5.7 the whole Kontact suite (Kmail, etc) crash just 
after launching it with a SIGSEGV 11.

This is the backtrace:
---
System configuration startup check disabled.

Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1".
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 47010415003200 (LWP 25133)]
[KCrash handler]
#5  0x2ac17c1e945b in KMFolderCachedImap::account ()
   from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkmailprivate.so
#6  0x2ac17c2caa59 in KMailICalIfaceImpl::readConfig ()
   from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkmailprivate.so
#7  0x2ac17c213cb4 in KMKernel::init ()
   from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkmailprivate.so
#8  0x2ac17bc2333e in KMailPart::KMailPart ()
   from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/libkmailpart.so
#9  0x2ac17bc24414 in KParts::GenericFactory::createPartObject
() from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/libkmailpart.so
#10 0x2ac16eec23d4 in KParts::Factory::createPart ()
   from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkparts.so.2
#11 0x2ac16e3eb3cf in Kontact::Core::createPart ()
   from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkpinterfaces.so.1
#12 0x2ac17b5a8bda in KMailPlugin::createPart ()
   from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/libkontact_kmailplugin.so
#13 0x2ac16e3ec809 in Kontact::Plugin::part ()
   from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkpinterfaces.so.1
#14 0x0041d8f0 in Kontact::MainWindow::selectPlugin ()
#15 0x00418603 in Kontact::MainWindow::loadSettings ()
#16 0x0041beff in Kontact::MainWindow::initObject ()
#17 0x004171a0 in KontactApp::newInstance ()
#18 0x2ac1700f92ed in KUniqueApplication::processDelayed ()
   from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdecore.so.4
#19 0x2ac1700ff548 in KUniqueApplication::qt_invoke ()
   from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdecore.so.4
#20 0x2ac17095459c in QObject::activate_signal ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3
#21 0x2ac170c39d02 in QSignal::signal ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3
#22 0x2ac17096d025 in QSignal::activate ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3
#23 0x2ac170973638 in QSingleShotTimer::event ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3
#24 0x2ac1708fd425 in QApplication::internalNotify ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3
#25 0x2ac1708fe057 in QApplication::notify ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3
#26 0x2ac1700e8eb8 in KApplication::notify ()
   from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdecore.so.4
#27 0x2ac1708f3a6f in QEventLoop::activateTimers ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3
#28 0x2ac1708b379d in QEventLoop::processEvents ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3
#29 0x2ac170911fd3 in QEventLoop::enterLoop ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3
#30 0x2ac170911e82 in QEventLoop::exec ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3
#31 0x00417685 in main ()
---

Before posting in here I did a search on the subject on bugs.kde.org but all 
were related to older versions and dated back in 2005 at least... so I guess 
it's "new" as it was working just fine before updating from KDE 3.5.5 to 
3.5.7...

Has anyone faced this before and could maybe point me to a solution??


Cheers,
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Re: [opensuse] crontab problem? How to debug?

[Peter Van Lone]

On 9/14/07, Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > X-Cron-Env: 
>
> Try setting that one.
>

Are you saying that the path listed is incorrect? What should it be set to?

And ... any idea how it might have changed from just a day or two ago,
when none of the users have modified env settings (or so they say).

One of the website devs thinks it has to do with a "general
permissions issue" -- whatever that means. How could I verify or
reject that hypothesis?

finally -- and forgive my ignorance -- but what tool, as root, do I
use to fix this users X-Cron-Env: variable, if that is, indeed, the
problem?

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Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS

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jdd wrote:
> Rajko M. wrote:
> 
>> The link http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~vijayan/vijayan-thesis.pdf
>> is about serious attempt to evaluate files systems. It is long read,
>> even if you read only conclusions, but it seems fair. 
> 
> it's really well wrtitten, so well that a=even a non-specialist can
> understand (most) of the content>. For a thesis, that's not so usual :-)

Hmm... you mean that non-specialists can handle or comprehend Markov
Random Fields... :-) which a key to understanding the test model
utilised. It is a good paper, and one can only wait until the research
is complete... I intend to go over it in a little more depth at a later
point ...

> 
> and the author seems to have written code to have an enhanced ext3 file
> system, do anybody know is ext3 programmers did use this or not?

I get the impression that the IRON methodology is more generally
applicable, and I would suspect ext with IRON (ixt) is being used as an
exemplar to test the impact of the model on an extant OS, ext is the
choice out of either preference, simplicity or availability. Would be
interesting see the impact on other file systems. This is an interim
research report and as such is very interesting and promising, but I do
think it is a bit early for the research to be transferred into a
production model. It is based on an abstract model, and occasionally
abstract models do not fit real world scenarios terribly well.

> 
> jdd
> 
> 


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Stop it! (was Re: [opensuse] Counter needed)

[Henne Vogelsang]

Hi,

this thread stops right here. It seems you cant get your act together and
keep insulting each other in this kindergarten fashion. 

I will not tollerate any of this on the list anymore. Everybody who
does so gets booted immediately.

This warning goes especially to Aaron and Marcio but is valid for
everybody.

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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

[Druid]

By the way, I was supposed to be out of any lists, as the idiot
promised. Oh, seems it didnt quite work, eh...

doh, kids pretending to be haxxorz...

On 9/14/07, Druid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/14/07, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > > * Kai Ponte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-11-07 15:01]:
> > >
> > >> On Tuesday 11 September 2007 11:14, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > >>
> >  A quick google reveals that you behave like this all over the
> >  internet. It really isn't very nice
> > 
> > >>> Only towards idiots.
> > >>>
> > >> Aaron - I see you're a COLA regular. 11K posts in November 2000?  What -
> > >> someone using your nym?
> > >>
> > >> Or were you going for a netkook award?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > Or perhaps the earlier accusation of mail bombing was true?
> > >
> > >
> > Now you're being silly.
>
> It is true. Too bad Aaron is a clueless newbie wannabe...
>
> Should be excluded from the internet. But we dont have a thing like a
> driver license for the internet. Unfortunately.
>
> Marcio
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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

[Druid]

On 9/14/07, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Kai Ponte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-11-07 15:01]:
> >
> >> On Tuesday 11 September 2007 11:14, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >>
>  A quick google reveals that you behave like this all over the
>  internet. It really isn't very nice
> 
> >>> Only towards idiots.
> >>>
> >> Aaron - I see you're a COLA regular. 11K posts in November 2000?  What -
> >> someone using your nym?
> >>
> >> Or were you going for a netkook award?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Or perhaps the earlier accusation of mail bombing was true?
> >
> >
> Now you're being silly.

It is true. Too bad Aaron is a clueless newbie wannabe...

Should be excluded from the internet. But we dont have a thing like a
driver license for the internet. Unfortunately.

Marcio
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Re: [opensuse] Re: No access to DVD-Drives

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The Friday 2007-09-14 at 13:28 +0100, G T Smith wrote:

> > Here you go:
> >
> > /dev/hdc /media/dvd   iso9660  
> > noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
> > /dev/hdd /media/dvdrecorder   iso9660  
> > noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
> >
> 
> It looks as if the automount is being fired up by the KDE Media Manager.
> The reference to /media/hdc suggests that something is not quite right
> with the configuration of KDE media player, unfortunately it rather
> seems that you can only enable or disable this module and there does not
> seem to anything to configure it...

As I don't have 10.1 installed now, I can't verify it, but I think that 
the fstab line is wrong: it mixes two types of automounting.

If he relies on KDE/Gnome automounting, then those two lines have to be 
disabled, for instance, commenting them out.

Otherwise, rewrite it. For instance:

/dev/dvd  /media/dvd  auto  ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0


or what I use:


/dev/dvd  /mnt/dvd auto   ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0


so as no to interfere with the /media directory.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: No access to DVD-Drives

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Kostas Georgokitsos wrote:
> On Friday 14 September 2007 10:50, G T Smith wrote:
> 
>> Well /media/hdc should be your mount point (though the designation is a
>> bit odd) have you checked the permission and existence of this location.
>>
>> Two things ...
>>
>> Check /etc/fstab ... send it to list so people have relevant info.
> 
> Here you go:
> 
> /dev/hdc /media/dvd   iso9660
> noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
> /dev/hdd /media/dvdrecorder   iso9660
> noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
> 

It looks as if the automount is being fired up by the KDE Media Manager.
The reference to /media/hdc suggests that something is not quite right
with the configuration of KDE media player, unfortunately it rather
seems that you can only enable or disable this module and there does not
seem to anything to configure it...

Can you mount the dvd with...

mount /dev/hdc

?

(you need to be root for this)

> 
>> At the cli type...
>>
>> wodim dev= -atip
> 
> # wodim dev=/dev/hdc -atip
> bash: wodim: command not found

Hmmm... looks as if 10.1 still uses the original cdrecord not sure that
you will get the same output from this but try this using cdrecord
rather than wodim... the cdrecord base package has limited support for
DVDs


> 
>> where device is the device name (in your case probably /dev/hdc) with a
>> DVD in...
>>



> 
> It all looks rather fishy. I checked the devices in yast, where I did not 
> notice anyting strange. 

This does not tell you whether the hardware is actually OK. CD/DVD/Tape
units have a nasty habit of apparently being operational but actually
malfunctioning

> 
> Also, k3b has no problem accessing the dvdburner in order to burn...
> 

k3b is optimised for the cdrecord/growisofs combination, wodim does a
few thing that K3b does not handle well last time I looked at it. K3b is
handy for building or obtaining an iso image but I rarely use it to
actually burn anything nowadays..


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Re: [opensuse] crontab problem? How to debug?

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The Friday 2007-09-14 at 07:10 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote:

> X-Cron-Env: 

Try setting that one.

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[opensuse] crontab problem? How to debug?

[Peter Van Lone]

we are having odd problem with running PHP scripts from cron, we are
able to execute the same commands from shell under "clotho04" user,
but crontab for the same user sends us following email:

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Sep 14 06:30:01 2007
X-Original-To: clotho04
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> $PHP_BIN_PATH $EXPORT_TOOLS/order_export.php
X-Cron-Env: 

X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 06:30:01 -0500 (CDT)

Could not open input file:
/home/httpd/htdocs/devestore.ourdomain.com/website/export/order_export.php

This is on SLES9

What might cause such a set of results  it was fine until recently.

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[opensuse] Amarok won't start

[Chris Vagionas]

I have no idea why, but amarok suddenly won't start.
Every time i try to launch amarok I get the following:

14:46 chvagion:~ > amarok
Amarok: [Loader] Starting amarokapp..
Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use 
amarokapp.


Any idea what to do ?
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Re: [opensuse] No openSUSE 10.4, was: Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Friday 2007-09-14 at 06:13 -0500, Glenn Holmer wrote:


> > Why do either of you find this surprising
> >
> > Since at least the 7.x days, the highest the editions have
> > always been X.0 through X.3
> 
> Why do you think either of us was surprised?  I just asked for a link I 
> could point people to if they asked.  Anyway, I've been using SUSE 
> since 5.3... including 6.4 :P

Me too... I didn't know they had the policy of not doing a .4 now.

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Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS

[jdd]

Rajko M. wrote:

The link   
  http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~vijayan/vijayan-thesis.pdf
is about serious attempt to evaluate files systems. It is long read, even if 
you read only conclusions, but it seems fair. 


it's really well wrtitten, so well that a=even a non-specialist can 
understand (most) of the content>. For a thesis, that's not so usual :-)


and the author seems to have written code to have an enhanced ext3 
file system, do anybody know is ext3 programmers did use this or not?


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Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's

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The Friday 2007-09-14 at 00:06 -0400, Peter Sjoberg wrote:

> > It must be a mess. And how 
> > about naming volumes, they all have to be unique no? 
> > So what does /etc 
> > or /var or whatever become when you install. Or do you just make disk1p5 
> > and 
> > disk1p6 large enough to hold everything? And what about ubuntuor fedora or 
> > whatever. They all have /home, /var, etc. etc.
> If you think about it, it's not that much different then when using
> plain partitions. When you have one disk you are forced to call every
> partition sda1, sda2 and so on up to sda15. If you now install 4
> different os versions, how do you keep track of what partition that
> is /var for each os?

You can label plain partitions, and use the label for mounting instead of 
the device name. In fstab:

LABEL=320_home1/home xfsnoatime,nodiratime  
1 2
LABEL=320_home2/home2reiserfs   
noatime,nodiratime,user,acl,user_xattr  1 2

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Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS

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The Friday 2007-09-14 at 01:12 -0400, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

> XFS's journalling mechanism seems (in my experience) to be
> much closer to the ideal.  Other people have experienced
> losses with XFS, but I'm beginning to believe that those
> were hardware related (physical defects on the hard drive),

Not in my case.

> which currently, a problem to which currently all filesystems
> are susceptable.

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Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS

[Rajko M.]

On Friday 14 September 2007 00:12, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> Hans Witvliet wrote:

> >> In my experience, reiserfs is not safe. It frequently fails
> >> (corruption and/or file loss) in the event of improper shutdown
> >> such as power failure or system crash.
> >>
> >> Conversely, in Iraq, where I experienced frequent power-related
> >> shutdowns, and a couple crashes (due to I think, running out of
> >> swap space), I never lost a single file using ext3 and xfs.
> >
> > I could be mistaken, but i thought the use of xfs inherrently required
> > the use of a no-break power supply, as it holds more data in mem,
>
> Both are journalled filesystems, but there seems to be an
> implementation error in Reiserfs 3.x, because I had several
> fsck failures after power outages.
>
> XFS's journalling mechanism seems (in my experience) to be
> much closer to the ideal.  Other people have experienced
> losses with XFS, but I'm beginning to believe that those
> were hardware related (physical defects on the hard drive),
> which currently, a problem to which currently all filesystems
> are susceptable.

The link   
  http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~vijayan/vijayan-thesis.pdf
is about serious attempt to evaluate files systems. It is long read, even if 
you read only conclusions, but it seems fair. 

You good experience with XFS is a matter of luck or type of work that you do. 
Having UPS is good for any computer if one wants to prevent data loss, but in 
case of XFS is even more important as it keeps big chunks of work in memory, 
and power loss can delete hours of work. File system will be fine, but you 
would have to rewrite all that wasn't saved and that can be a lot. 

You bad experience with reiserfs is probably partially due to fsck. 
That FS is not well suited to hold backup of another reiserfs, because if it 
has to do fsck, both main FS and backed up can be mixed up in one mess. 
I don't have handy article about this, but 
  fsck.reiserfs
is not what you want to do on regular basis. 
They tell that explicitely that is dangerous when you run fsck. 

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Re: [opensuse] No openSUSE 10.4, was: Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved

[Glenn Holmer]

On Thursday 13 September 2007 19:44, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> Glenn Holmer wrote:
> > On Tuesday 11 September 2007 15:46, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> >> * Glenn Holmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-11-07 16:35]:
> >>> On Tuesday 11 September 2007 08:19, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>  Announced yesterday, there will be no 10.4.  It will be 11.0,
>  perhaps related to inclusion/upgrade of/to KDE4.
> >>>
> >>> Have you got a link for that?  Thanks.
> >>
> >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:09:41 +0200
> >> From: Stephan Kulow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Thanks, I didn't even know about that list.
>
> Why do either of you find this surprising
>
> Since at least the 7.x days, the highest the editions have
> always been X.0 through X.3

Why do you think either of us was surprised?  I just asked for a link I 
could point people to if they asked.  Anyway, I've been using SUSE 
since 5.3... including 6.4 :P

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Re: [opensuse] Gigabyte M61p-s3

[kengheng]

download the latest driver from 
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nforce/1.23/NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.23.zip

1) unzip NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.23.zip
2) cd NV_Linux_DRV_PKG_v1.23/SuSE10.2/rpm
3) rpm -Uvh nvlan-suse10.2-0.62-1.23.i586.rpm
4) cp /lib/modules/2.6.18.2-34-default/kernel/drivers/net/forcedeth.ko 
/lib/modules/2.6.18.8-0.5-default/kernel/drivers/net/

reboot
5) use Yast to configure, you will get this "Giga-byte Ethernet 
controller" at the network card configuration setting.


Enjoy!!!

Notes: assumed u download the NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.23 and your kernel is 
2.6.18.8-0.5 (32bits), if you install 64bits OpenSuse10.2, then changed 
accordingly.


Peter Sjoberg wrote:

On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 18:36 -0700, Joseph Loo wrote:
  

On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 23:42 -0400, Peter Sjoberg wrote:


On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 19:34 -0700, Joseph Loo wrote:
  

I just recently bought the Gigabyte M61P-s3 motherboard. I have an x2
AMD processor running on it. I installed opensuse 10.2 on it and found
out it will not recognize the ethernet Realtek RTL 8211 and Realtek
ALC883 Codec chip (audio). Has anyone found a way to get them to work?
or will I have to buy a LAN card and audio card for this computer as the
simplest solution?


Are you sure about the mobo, I have Gigabyte M61P-S3 but the
network/audio is MCP61, not realtek. 
In my case I had network issues, it seems that the driver/card disagree

on the mac address order (fixed in latest upstream version of forcedeth)
and then the driver takes a random ip throwing of suse network
management.
I had to modify the startup scripts and udev rules to set a fixed mac
address (the correct one) to get it to work properly.

Did also find out that Gigabyte does support AM2 cpu but not
virtualization so it doesn't work for what I was planning on using it to
(unless I hack the bios my self). That act (and lack of response from
support) put gigabyte on my blacklist.


  

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That is what the documentation says. I am runnning read hat and it does
report the same thing as you say.


Well, then I can only help you with the network side, newer tried the
Audio (I use it as a server running xen with a few virtual guests).

The network driver that works is forcedeth
It loaded automatically for me so I got eth0 configured properly the
first round
Next round it loaded again but I got a new MAC address for it and since
suse network config is based on mac it became unconfigured
next round, new mac and new config
I checked on the logs, google etc and it seems like it's a bug so that
the driver reads the mac address backwards, declare it invalid and
creates a random mac for this device. The bug is fixed in upstream
forcedeth (v0.57 and later I think) but even latest kernel 10.2 still
doesn't include the fix (only 0.56) and just adding upstream forcedeth.c
fails to compile so another solution is needed.
What I did (that works):
 # dmesg |grep 'Invalid Mac address detected'
 :00:07.0: Invalid Mac address detected: ad:42:92:4d:1a:00

This gives you the bus id and the reversed MAC
Edit /etc/udev/rules.d/30-net_persistent_names.rules and change the rule
for eth0 to say
 SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", SYSFS{device}==":00:07.0", \
  IMPORT="/lib/udev/rename_netiface %k eth0"

This way the rule is based on the bus id, not the mac=same eth every
time.

In /etc/rc.d/boot.local I then put in a line to force the correct mac
(reversed version of the "Invalid" one from above

 ifconfig eth0 hw ether "00:1a:4d:92:42:ad" &>/dev/null || true

After this I configured the port with "yast lan" and now it works fine
after every (re)boot.

Regarding the sound, as a test I did just try "yast sound" but got an
error that "The kernel module snd-hda-intel for sound support could not
be loaded." so I guess you need to find someone else to help you there.

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Re: [opensuse] How do I find out why my server crashed?

[Kevin Thorpe]

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Kevin Thorpe wrote:

> My server crashed last night and I can't see anything
> in the logs as to why. I couldn't ssh in so I connected
> a screen and keyboard, the screen stayed on standby and
> I couldn't even toggle the caps-lock. I'm thinking that
> it was a kernel panic but without the screen I don't
> know what caused it. I can't see anything except a huge
> gap in the logs so they're no help. Is there anywhere
> else I can look to try and find out what the problem
> was so I can stop it happening again? I don't appreciate
> being dragged out of bed and half-way across the city
> by our Australian friends who can't go to bed at a
> sensible time.
>
>thanks
Did you check all of the following:

/var/logs/warn
/var/log/messages?
/var/log/localmessages

If there's nothing in any of these files, I would
suspect a CPU lock up due to overheating, or some
similar sort of hardware problem (video card hanging
the bus, etc). How's the airflow and internal
cleanliness of the physical box, and/or any rack mount
it might be inside.


Nothing but a huge gap in all those logs. The box is at a reasonable 
height (desk height) in
a barely populated rack (two servers, one switch) with front and back 
open. Both servers
are cold to the touch, I know that doesn't tell you the internal temp. 
but I've never had an
overheat problem in an established server where the box hasn't felt hot. 
Office environment,
but it was early hours of morning so unlikely to be overheating. This 
box used to sit on the
floor (carpeted) for several months and didn't overheat there despite 
being full of dust, now

cleaned out.

Hopefully it's a one-off. If it happens again I'll strip and rebuild the 
box. Failing that I'll have
to replace the mobo etc. At least that'll give me a kick-ass workstation 
and I'll put up with

an occasional reboot.

It still doesn't give me anything to tell our Ozzie colleagues.
thanks
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[opensuse] Re: No access to DVD-Drives

[Kostas Georgokitsos]

On Friday 14 September 2007 10:50, G T Smith wrote:

> Well /media/hdc should be your mount point (though the designation is a
> bit odd) have you checked the permission and existence of this location.
>
> Two things ...
>
> Check /etc/fstab ... send it to list so people have relevant info.

Here you go:

/dev/hdc /media/dvd   iso9660
noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
/dev/hdd /media/dvdrecorder   iso9660
noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0


> At the cli type...
>
> wodim dev= -atip

# wodim dev=/dev/hdc -atip
bash: wodim: command not found

> where device is the device name (in your case probably /dev/hdc) with a
> DVD in...
>
> I believe the -atip switch is not really intended for the purpose of
> drive checking but some rather useful info can be gleaned from the output.
>
> (As part of my current project I have been working on a perl module to
> drive wodim/growisofs and I have found -atip switch generates rather
> more useful info than the -inq and -prcap switches on a drives current
> status).

It all looks rather fishy. I checked the devices in yast, where I did not 
notice anyting strange. 

Also, k3b has no problem accessing the dvdburner in order to burn...

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Re: [opensuse] No access to DVD-Drives

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Kostas Georgokitsos wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I have no idea when this happened. Suddenly I am not allowed anymore to 
> access 
> my DVDs. On putting in a new CD/DVD the automounter opens a konqueror window 
> which then only says that I do not have authorisation for system:/media/hdc
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> My System is 10.1.
> 
> Kostas

Well /media/hdc should be your mount point (though the designation is a
bit odd) have you checked the permission and existence of this location.

Two things ...

Check /etc/fstab ... send it to list so people have relevant info.

At the cli type...

wodim dev= -atip

where device is the device name (in your case probably /dev/hdc) with a
DVD in...

I believe the -atip switch is not really intended for the purpose of
drive checking but some rather useful info can be gleaned from the output.

(As part of my current project I have been working on a perl module to
drive wodim/growisofs and I have found -atip switch generates rather
more useful info than the -inq and -prcap switches on a drives current
status).




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Re: [opensuse] libgnomecanvas 2.14

[Stanislav Visnovsky]

Dňa Thursday 13 September 2007 16:49:58 Chris Arnold ste napísal:
> I see i can make yast dir from
> http://en.opensuse.org/Creating_YaST_Installation_Sources but how do i tell
> yast to look there during the install?

Select 'Add Online Repositories Before Installation' during the 'Installation 
mode' step.

Stano

>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: opensuse@opensuse.org
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:46:41 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: Re: [opensuse] libgnomecanvas 2.14
>
> Alright, i rebooted the pc and now it has bombed out. No gdm and can not
> startx. I have reloaded sled more times here lately.
>
> Is there a way to install libgnomecanvas 2.14 from opensuse site during the
> install?
>
> Chris
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: opensuse@opensuse.org
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:34:01 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [opensuse] libgnomecanvas 2.14
>
> OK, to make a long story short:
> I am trying to install gtkpod-99.10 from source. To do this, you must be
> using libgnomecanvas 2.14, so i upgraded from 2.12 using the rpm's from
> the opensuse->gnome:stable repo. I had to force the rpm's
> (libgnomecanvas and the -devel) to install; then i uninstalled the 2.12
> versions. Now, when i run the make for gtkpod (the ./configure works
> fine without any errors), i get a libgnomecanvas error (according to the
> dev at the gtkpod list):
>
> /usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../libgnomecanvas-2.so:
> > undefined reference to `art_free'
> > /usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../libgnomecanvas-
> > 2.so:
> > undefined reference to `art_realloc'
> > /usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../libgnomecanvas-2.so:
> > undefined reference to `art_alloc'
> > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > make[2]: *** [gtkpod] Error 1
> >
> > make[2]: Leaving directory
> > `/home/ELECTRICHENDRIX/carnold/Desktop/gtkpod-0.99.10/src'
> > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory
> > `/home/ELECTRICHENDRIX/carnold/Desktop/gtkpod-0.99.10
> > '
> > make: *** [all] Error 2
>
> A rpm -qa produces libgnomecanvas-2.14.0-36.3 and yast->software management
> says 2.14 is installed and it is the only version installed. I looked for a
> libgnomecanvas mailinglist but did not see one. Can anyone help with this
> error or point me to a libgnomecanvas forum/list?
>
> Chris
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