Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Audacity in Opensuse 10.3 beta 1 or 2

2007-08-27 Thread Bernhard Walle
* Juan Erbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-08-28 01:31]:
> Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
> [Switching to Thread 0xb676a6d0 (LWP 28895)]
> 0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
> (gdb)

(gdb) bt



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Re: [opensuse-factory] md5sums for beta?

2007-08-27 Thread Jim Pye
> >   
> 
> I am sorry, but I am still not able to find the md5sum for e.g.:
> 
> openSUSE-10.3-Beta2-DVD-i386-iso
> 
> Any idea where to look?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> FMF
> 

You are correct in saying the DVD version of the md5sums are missing. I
just checked the file provided at:

http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version#Downloads

The file provided contains md5sums for the Addons, Gnome and KDE cds but
no DVDs.

Is this intentional?

???

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Re: [opensuse-factory] md5sums for beta?

2007-08-27 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer

Jim Pye wrote:


http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version#Downloads

There is a line hidden in the table called Checksums :)

Even trying to refind them I had abot 4 clicks :(

J
  


I am sorry, but I am still not able to find the md5sum for e.g.:

   openSUSE-10.3-Beta2-DVD-i386-iso

Any idea where to look?

Thanks

FMF

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Re: [opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...

2007-08-27 Thread Christian Boltz
Hallo,

(@bnc-team-screening: sorry that you have that much work with me ;-)

Am Montag, 27. August 2007 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
> Christian Boltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > - my 10.2 partition is only offered for update if I select "show
> > all partitions" (and: no, I don't think that
> >   https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299667 is invalid -
> > the solution would be to ask for the password of the encrypted
> > partition earlier)
>
> Please file a bug report.

I reopened the existing report instead and hope it won't be closed as 
invalid again.

> > - /etc/cryptotab is not converted to /dev/sd*, so mounting
> > encrypted partitions while installation fails
>
> Another bugreport.
>
> > - /etc/fstab is also not converted, so mounting everything except /
> >   fails
> > - /boot/grub/device.map also wasn't modified, resulting in a
> > failure at bootloader installation
> > - installing the kernel also failed because mkinitrd was still
> > trying to use hda - workaround: change fstab manually
>
> Lots of bugreports :-(

These bugs might be related to #299667 - I mentioned them there instead 
of opening separate reports.

> > - the tab order in the dialog to add an add-on repository is broken

#305074

> > - the pattern "update test packages" does not drop in any of the
> >   "update-test-*" packages
>
> Mmh - that's bad :-(

 #305075

> > - I had the latest KDE packages from Buildservice on 10.2, and the
> > beta2 installation had to downgrade them. This resulted in lots of
> > conflicts, YaST even marked the beta2 KDE packages with "arch
> > change" and did not honor what I chose in the conflict dialog.
> >   I had to go to the packages mask and mark the KDE packages to be
> >   refreshed.

#305080
(Yes, I know that buildservice packages are officially unsupported. 
However the KDE packages are used widely, additionally the symptoms 
look like solver problems, so no work for you, Stephan ;-)

> > - strange version difference: I'm still using agrep from SUSE 8.2,
> > which is version 4.0 (newer releases didn't contain it) and now
> > re-appeared with version 0.7.

Any idea on this one?
It's not really a bug, just a bit strange.

> > - on the first run, the installation aborted unexpectedly, probably
> >   because the y2logs and a testcase needed too much RAM.
> >   Sidenote: I have 1GB RAM...
> >   Anyways, expected result is a warning "out of RAM, please cleanup
> > the logs or add swap."

#305083 - not because of the size needed, but because of the unexpected 
exit of YaST.

> > - oh, just after clicking "accept" in the pattern details view, I
> > got about 200 MB additional y2log in 10 seconds...
>
> with debuggin enabled?  This should not happen otherwise and would be
> worth a bugreport.

In the first try, I had created a testcase. (But no other debugging set)

In the second try, no debugging ws enabled. And manual mode should not 
be relevant, if I understand Jiri's mail correct.

#305087

> > - for OpenOffice, thesaurus packages are installed for lots of
> > languages I never use. I'd expect to only have packages for my
> > system language by default.
>
> Agreed -> please do one more report.

#305088

> > - Some packages unselected in pattern details (the OpenOffice
> > thesaurus packages) were re-selected after clicking "packages" in
> > the proposal - which means YaST does changes after a user has done
> > a per-package selection in the pattern details view

#305091

> > - what about gtk-qt-engine? It conflicts with kcm_gtk...
>
> Isn't it removed?  But perhaps not done properly :-(

 #305094

> > - java_1_4_2_sun_jdbc also caused a conflict, maybe it should be
> >   obsoleted by a current (1.5.0) package
>
> Yeah, perhaps we need one more bugreport.

You can have one ;-)
 #305096

> > - YaST didn't display the slide show, dunno why

#305097

> > - installation of several non-OSS packages failed with error
> >   message "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623:
> > _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize [...]"
> >   %post failed with exit status 127
> >   affected: nspluginwrapper, acroread, flash-player, RealPlayer
>
> I haven't seen this - please file a bug.

#305098

> > - according to the y2log, the downloaded release notes have version
> >   10.2.3 which is obviously older than 10.3.5 in Factory
> >
> :-(

#305101

> > - SuSEconfig.zzzopt_gnome-compat code looks ugly code, it should
> > have more than one FIXME ;-)

No bug report yet, I have to re-check it.

> > - opensuse-updater is not obsoleted by opensuse-updater-kde, so I
> > have installed both of them now
>
> It should be, I check the spec file.  Please file a report.

already known, #304336

> > And some things I already found in the running system:
> > - something seems to run "insserv -r boot.crypto" while
> > installation, so my encrypted partition wasn't mounted at boot
> >   (workaround: insserv it again)
> >
> :-(

#305105

> > - opensuse-updater (the old one, still running after the update)
> > lists al

[opensuse-factory] Re: Audacity in Opensuse 10.3 beta 1 or 2

2007-08-27 Thread Juan Erbes
2007/8/27, Juan Erbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Someone can run audacity without problems in Opensuse 10.3 beta 1 or 2?
>
> After the update to beta 3 in 32 bits, and a fresh install in 64 bits,
> the problem of the audacity crash continues.
>
> As I see they are a open bug about it:
>
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=294693
>

I downloaded the sources version 1.3.3-beta, and compiled it, and now
appear other error:

(gdb) run
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0xb676a6d0 (LWP 28895)]
JACK tmpdir identified as [/dev/shm]
[New Thread 0xb625db90 (LWP 28903)]

Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
[Switching to Thread 0xb676a6d0 (LWP 28895)]
0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
(gdb)
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[opensuse-factory] Audacity in Opensuse 10.3 beta 1 or 2

2007-08-27 Thread Juan Erbes
Someone can run audacity without problems in Opensuse 10.3 beta 1 or 2?

After the update to beta 3 in 32 bits, and a fresh install in 64 bits,
the problem of the audacity crash continues.

As I see they are a open bug about it:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=294693

>From my point of view, the problem is related to GTK_IS_WIDGET.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...

2007-08-27 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

on Montag, 27. August 2007, Klaus Kaempf wrote:
> * Christian Boltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Aug 27. 2007 01:45]:
> > I just updated my 10.2 to 10.3 beta2 and, well, it was a bit
> > adventurous ;-)  and I'm asking myself if someone has tried to
> > install beta2 as update - there are too many obvious bugs, and some
> > of them are critical from my POV :-(
>
> Well, yes we are testing it but in parallel with the community ;-}

So I was just faster? ;-)

> [...]
>
> > - /etc/cryptotab is not converted to /dev/sd*, so mounting
> > encrypted partitions while installation fails
> > - /etc/fstab is also not converted, so mounting everything except /
> >   fails
> > - /boot/grub/device.map also wasn't modified, resulting in a
> > failure at bootloader installation


> > - installing the kernel also failed because mkinitrd was still
> > trying to use hda - workaround: change fstab manually
>
> Mixed ATA/SATA system ? This all looks like #304269

No, a laptop with a single IDE disk. However, at least the kernel / 
mkinitrd related problem is identical with comment #3 in bug #304269, 
so I'll assume it's a duplicate for now.

> [...]
>
> > - dependency check is quite slow when you have many conflicts (but
> > fast after you have solved them)
>
> This is to be expected since the solver tries a couple of different
> approaches to solve the conflict. I agree, it could still be faster.

OK, then I'll not file a bugreport about this. I have enough left ;-)

> > - installation of several non-OSS packages failed with error
> >   message "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623:
> > _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize [...]"
> >   %post failed with exit status 127
> >   affected: nspluginwrapper, acroread, flash-player, RealPlayer
>
> You are running a x86_64 system, aren't you ? The named packages are
> .i586 Please file a bug report.

No, I'm running a i586 system...


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[opensuse-factory] GNOME: Pidgin, sane defaults

2007-08-27 Thread Magnus Boman
Hello all,

I've been talking to some people about the Pidgin defaults and we agreed
that the upstream defaults are not really sane.
We have an opportunity to get this patched with sane settings.

Apart from https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=304635, does
anyone have any other suggestions on what defaults we should have?

Thanks,
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Re: [opensuse-factory] libmtp >=0.2.0 problem

2007-08-27 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 07:54:28PM +0100, Sid Boyce wrote:
> Raised with the MTP list and they are still trying to resolve.
> It's not able to connect to my daughter's Sandisk Sansa e260 MP3 player, 
> others on the list have also raised problems with other devices. 
> Upgraded to 0.2.1 and that also fails the same way.
> # gdb mtp-playlists
> GNU gdb 6.6.50.20070726-cvs
> Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
> welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain 
> conditions.
> Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
> This GDB was configured as "i586-suse-linux"...
> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1".
> (gdb) run
> Starting program: /usr/bin/mtp-playlists
> libmtp version: 0.2.1
> 
> Potential MTP Device with VendorID:0781 and ProductID:7420 responded to 
> control message 2 with a response that was too short. Problems may 
> arrise but continuing

Sounds like bug 296113.

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[opensuse-factory] libmtp >=0.2.0 problem

2007-08-27 Thread Sid Boyce

Raised with the MTP list and they are still trying to resolve.
It's not able to connect to my daughter's Sandisk Sansa e260 MP3 player, 
others on the list have also raised problems with other devices. 
Upgraded to 0.2.1 and that also fails the same way.

# gdb mtp-playlists
GNU gdb 6.6.50.20070726-cvs
Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain 
conditions.

Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i586-suse-linux"...
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1".
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/mtp-playlists
libmtp version: 0.2.1

Potential MTP Device with VendorID:0781 and ProductID:7420 responded to 
control message 2 with a response that was too short. Problems may 
arrise but continuing

PTP: Opening session
PTP_ERROR_IO: Trying again after resetting USB
Clearing stall on IN endpoint
Clearing stall on OUT endpoint
usb_claim_interface(): No such device
LIBMTP PANIC: Could not open session on device 1
LIBMTP PANIC: configure_usb_devices() error code: 7 on line 1819
LIBMTP_Get_First_Device: Error Connecting
No devices.

Program exited normally.
(gdb) bt
No stack.
(gdb)

Went back to libmtp-0.1.5 and problem solved.
Worth a bug report?
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[opensuse-factory] Method of mounting removable devices in 10.3 beta2

2007-08-27 Thread Juan Erbes
Can someone tell me how is method of mounting removable devices in 10.3 beta2?
What packages are necessary?

Previoulsly I used ivman, but after the upgrade to 10.3 beta 2 do'nt
works. In beta 1 they do'nt worked right.

Salu2
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Re: [opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...

2007-08-27 Thread Juan Erbes
I have upgraded via smart from beta 2 to 3 in 32 bits, and got 3 problems:
1- mkinitrd could not create a temp file in /var/tmp/ , and then do'nt
creates the initrd.
2- kpowersave, do'nt works
3- mounting removable devices do'nt works.

In the cases 2 and 3 I resolved the problem installing mkinitrd and
kpowersave from beta 2.
The case 3 could'nt resolve it.

I have installed from zero in the same system the 64 bits version of
OSS 10.3 beta 2 (after various attemps to resizing a partition to
create a new), and it works fine, without replacing any package.
The only problem with the 64 bits is that the midnight commander (mc)
do'nt works.

Regards

2007/8/27, Jiri Srain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi!
>
> Strange, my upgrade from 10.2 to Beta3 worked successfully (I used only the
> Beta3 instlalation repository). Probably because of no disk renames, since I
> have a SATA system.
>
> Also, I have not noticed any memory problem (same amount of memory as you,
> 64-bit system). May be caused by excluding Factory repository.
>
> I think you can file bugreports for all of these issues unless someone gives
> an update on them. I don't think we can track them on the mailing list...
>
> Jiri
>
> Dne Monday 27 of August 2007 01:44:03 Christian Boltz napsal(a):
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just updated my 10.2 to 10.3 beta2 and, well, it was a bit
> > adventurous ;-)  and I'm asking myself if someone has tried to install
> > beta2 as update - there are too many obvious bugs, and some of them are
> > critical from my POV :-(
> >
> > Installation source: Factory tree + non-OSS tree, mirrored yesterday
> >
> > Just a short overview about the problems I had as short overview:
> >
> > - my 10.2 partition is only offered for update if I select "show all
> >   partitions" (and: no, I don't think that
> >   https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299667 is invalid - the
> >   solution would be to ask for the password of the encrypted partition
> >   earlier)
> > - /etc/cryptotab is not converted to /dev/sd*, so mounting encrypted
> >   partitions while installation fails
> > - /etc/fstab is also not converted, so mounting everything except /
> >   fails
> > - /boot/grub/device.map also wasn't modified, resulting in a failure
> >   at bootloader installation
> > - installing the kernel also failed because mkinitrd was still trying to
> >   use hda - workaround: change fstab manually
>
> These three sound like a one bug in detecting the disk mapping. I doubt we
> managed to break it on that many places, since it worked in the past.
>
> > - the tab order in the dialog to add an add-on repository is broken
> > - the pattern "update test packages" does not drop in any of the
> >   "update-test-*" packages
> > - I had the latest KDE packages from Buildservice on 10.2, and the beta2
> >   installation had to downgrade them. This resulted in lots of
> >   conflicts, YaST even marked the beta2 KDE packages with "arch change"
> >   and did not honor what I chose in the conflict dialog.
> >   I had to go to the packages mask and mark the KDE packages to be
> >   refreshed.
> > - strange version difference: I'm still using agrep from SUSE 8.2, which
> >   is version 4.0 (newer releases didn't contain it) and now re-appeared
> >   with version 0.7.
> > - on the first run, the installation aborted unexpectedly, probably
> >   because the y2logs and a testcase needed too much RAM.
> >   Sidenote: I have 1GB RAM...
> >   Next run without testcase generation worked, but still created ~300 MB
> >   y2logs.
> >   Question: does "manual" mode create bigger logs does this always
> >   happen? (reason for manual mode: linuxrc forces me to manual
> >   installation mode because it doesn't find my HTTP installation source
> >   in the first run - already filed a bug about this)
>
> No, it should not. However, IIRC logs from previous (failed) installations are
> concatenated unless you reboot.
>
> >   Anyways, expected result is a warning "out of RAM, please cleanup the
> >   logs or add swap."
> > - oh, just after clicking "accept" in the pattern details view, I got
> >   about 200 MB additional y2log in 10 seconds...
> > - dependency check is quite slow when you have many conflicts (but fast
> >   after you have solved them)
> > - for OpenOffice, thesaurus packages are installed for lots of languages
> >   I never use. I'd expect to only have packages for my system language
> >   by default.
> > - Some packages unselected in pattern details (the OpenOffice thesaurus
> >   packages) were re-selected after clicking "packages" in the proposal -
> >   which means YaST does changes after a user has done a per-package
> >   selection in the pattern details view
> > - what about gtk-qt-engine? It conflicts with kcm_gtk...
> > - java_1_4_2_sun_jdbc also caused a conflict, maybe it should be
> >   obsoleted by a current (1.5.0) package
> > - YaST didn't display the slide show, dunno why
> > - installation of several non-OSS packages failed with error
> >   message "I

Re: [opensuse-factory] NTP Daemon not working [Solved]

2007-08-27 Thread Andreas Hoffmann
Hi Andreas, Hi all,

The problem is solved in Beta2 now. I looked in the
/var/log/audit/audit.log and it was due to
the app armor profile which denied the creation of the network soket
for the ntp daemon.

Thanks everyone for the fast and quick help :)

Best Regards
Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...

2007-08-27 Thread Stephan Binner
On Monday 27 August 2007 01:44:03 Christian Boltz wrote:

> - I had the latest KDE packages from Buildservice on 10.2, and the beta2
>   installation had to downgrade them. This resulted in lots of conflicts,

We don't support updates from unofficial unsupported packages ;-)...

> - what about gtk-qt-engine? It conflicts with kcm_gtk...

It already did in openSUSE 10.2 where kcm_gtk was installed by default. For 
openSUSE 10.3 the gtk-qt-engine package was dropped completely.

Bye,
   Steve
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Re: [opensuse-factory] I‘m not able to install software via "software management" in Beta2

2007-08-27 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Krupanský Rastislav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Yes, these repos are enabled.And i have just added local repo and i'm
> not able install packages also.
> Installation by command zypper in any_packages doesn't work too.
> here is output:
>
> linux:/home/user # zypper in opera
> * Reading repository 'openSUSE-10.3-OSS-KDE 10.3' cache
> * Reading repository
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/'
> cache
> * Reading repository
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-Factory-non-oss/inst-source-extra/'
> cache
> * Reading repository
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory-debug/inst-source-debug/'
> cache
> * Reading repository 'local' cache
> * Reading installed packages [100%]
>
>
> The following NEW package is going to be installed:
>   opera
>
> Overall download size: 6.3 M. After the operation, additional 18.8 M
> will be used.
> Continue? [y/n]: y
> Downloading package opera-9.23-3.i586, 6.3 M (18.8 M unpacked)
> Unexpected exception.
> Can't provide file ./suse/i586/opera-9.23-3.i586.rpm from repository
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-Factory-non-oss/inst-source-extra/
> Please file a bug report about this.
> See http://en.opensuse.org/Zypper#Troubleshooting for instructions.
>
> And here you are zypper sl
>
> linux:/home/user # zypper sl
> # | Enabled | Refresh | Type | Name
> | URI
> --+-+-+--+---+--
> 1 | Yes | No  | yast2| openSUSE-10.3-OSS-KDE 10.3
> |  cd:///?devices=/dev/sr0
> 2 | Yes | No  | yast2|
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/
> |
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/
> 3 | Yes | No  | yast2|
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-Factory-non-oss/inst-source-extra/
> |
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-Factory-non-oss/inst-source-extra/
> 4 | Yes | No  | yast2|
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory-debug/inst-source-debug/
> |
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory-debug/inst-source-debug/
> 5 | Yes | Yes | plaindir | local
> | dir:///home/user/Desktop/
>
> It looks like a bug.

Please file it via bugs.opensuse.org,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...

2007-08-27 Thread Bernhard Walle
* Klaus Kaempf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-08-27 09:41]:
> * Christian Boltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Aug 27. 2007 01:45]:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I just updated my 10.2 to 10.3 beta2 and, well, it was a bit 
> > adventurous ;-)  and I'm asking myself if someone has tried to install 
> > beta2 as update - there are too many obvious bugs, and some of them are 
> > critical from my POV :-(
> 
> Well, yes we are testing it but in parallel with the community ;-}

Updating 10.2 -> Beta 1 worked for me. Beta 1 -> Beta 2, too. So it's
not that nobody uses 10.3 in SUSE. ;-)



Thanks,
   Bernhard

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Re: [opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...

2007-08-27 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Christian Boltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Aug 27. 2007 01:45]:
> Hello,
> 
> I just updated my 10.2 to 10.3 beta2 and, well, it was a bit 
> adventurous ;-)  and I'm asking myself if someone has tried to install 
> beta2 as update - there are too many obvious bugs, and some of them are 
> critical from my POV :-(

Well, yes we are testing it but in parallel with the community ;-}

[...]
> - /etc/cryptotab is not converted to /dev/sd*, so mounting encrypted 
>   partitions while installation fails
> - /etc/fstab is also not converted, so mounting everything except /
>   fails
> - /boot/grub/device.map also wasn't modified, resulting in a failure
>   at bootloader installation
> - installing the kernel also failed because mkinitrd was still trying to 
>   use hda - workaround: change fstab manually


Mixed ATA/SATA system ? This all looks like #304269

[...]
> - dependency check is quite slow when you have many conflicts (but fast 
>   after you have solved them)

This is to be expected since the solver tries a couple of different
approaches to solve the conflict. I agree, it could still be faster.


> - installation of several non-OSS packages failed with error 
>   message "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open: 
>   Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize [...]"
>   %post failed with exit status 127
>   affected: nspluginwrapper, acroread, flash-player, RealPlayer

You are running a x86_64 system, aren't you ? The named packages are .i586
Please file a bug report.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...

2007-08-27 Thread Jiri Srain
Hi!

Strange, my upgrade from 10.2 to Beta3 worked successfully (I used only the 
Beta3 instlalation repository). Probably because of no disk renames, since I 
have a SATA system.

Also, I have not noticed any memory problem (same amount of memory as you, 
64-bit system). May be caused by excluding Factory repository.

I think you can file bugreports for all of these issues unless someone gives 
an update on them. I don't think we can track them on the mailing list...

Jiri

Dne Monday 27 of August 2007 01:44:03 Christian Boltz napsal(a):
> Hello,
>
> I just updated my 10.2 to 10.3 beta2 and, well, it was a bit
> adventurous ;-)  and I'm asking myself if someone has tried to install
> beta2 as update - there are too many obvious bugs, and some of them are
> critical from my POV :-(
>
> Installation source: Factory tree + non-OSS tree, mirrored yesterday
>
> Just a short overview about the problems I had as short overview:
>
> - my 10.2 partition is only offered for update if I select "show all
>   partitions" (and: no, I don't think that
>   https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299667 is invalid - the
>   solution would be to ask for the password of the encrypted partition
>   earlier)
> - /etc/cryptotab is not converted to /dev/sd*, so mounting encrypted
>   partitions while installation fails
> - /etc/fstab is also not converted, so mounting everything except /
>   fails
> - /boot/grub/device.map also wasn't modified, resulting in a failure
>   at bootloader installation
> - installing the kernel also failed because mkinitrd was still trying to
>   use hda - workaround: change fstab manually

These three sound like a one bug in detecting the disk mapping. I doubt we 
managed to break it on that many places, since it worked in the past.

> - the tab order in the dialog to add an add-on repository is broken
> - the pattern "update test packages" does not drop in any of the
>   "update-test-*" packages
> - I had the latest KDE packages from Buildservice on 10.2, and the beta2
>   installation had to downgrade them. This resulted in lots of
>   conflicts, YaST even marked the beta2 KDE packages with "arch change"
>   and did not honor what I chose in the conflict dialog.
>   I had to go to the packages mask and mark the KDE packages to be
>   refreshed.
> - strange version difference: I'm still using agrep from SUSE 8.2, which
>   is version 4.0 (newer releases didn't contain it) and now re-appeared
>   with version 0.7.
> - on the first run, the installation aborted unexpectedly, probably
>   because the y2logs and a testcase needed too much RAM.
>   Sidenote: I have 1GB RAM...
>   Next run without testcase generation worked, but still created ~300 MB
>   y2logs.
>   Question: does "manual" mode create bigger logs does this always
>   happen? (reason for manual mode: linuxrc forces me to manual
>   installation mode because it doesn't find my HTTP installation source
>   in the first run - already filed a bug about this)

No, it should not. However, IIRC logs from previous (failed) installations are 
concatenated unless you reboot.

>   Anyways, expected result is a warning "out of RAM, please cleanup the
>   logs or add swap."
> - oh, just after clicking "accept" in the pattern details view, I got
>   about 200 MB additional y2log in 10 seconds...
> - dependency check is quite slow when you have many conflicts (but fast
>   after you have solved them)
> - for OpenOffice, thesaurus packages are installed for lots of languages
>   I never use. I'd expect to only have packages for my system language
>   by default.
> - Some packages unselected in pattern details (the OpenOffice thesaurus
>   packages) were re-selected after clicking "packages" in the proposal -
>   which means YaST does changes after a user has done a per-package
>   selection in the pattern details view
> - what about gtk-qt-engine? It conflicts with kcm_gtk...
> - java_1_4_2_sun_jdbc also caused a conflict, maybe it should be
>   obsoleted by a current (1.5.0) package
> - YaST didn't display the slide show, dunno why
> - installation of several non-OSS packages failed with error
>   message "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open:
>   Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize [...]"
>   %post failed with exit status 127
>   affected: nspluginwrapper, acroread, flash-player, RealPlayer
> - according to the y2log, the downloaded release notes have version
>   10.2.3 which is obviously older than 10.3.5 in Factory
> - SuSEconfig.zzzopt_gnome-compat code looks ugly code, it should have
>   more than one FIXME ;-)
> - opensuse-updater is not obsoleted by opensuse-updater-kde, so I have
>   installed both of them now
>
>
> And some things I already found in the running system:
> - something seems to run "insserv -r boot.crypto" while installation, so
>   my encrypted partition wasn't mounted at boot
>   (workaround: insserv it again)
>
> - opensuse-updater (the old one, still running after the update) lists
>   also *packages* to 

Re: [opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...

2007-08-27 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Christian Boltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
>
> I just updated my 10.2 to 10.3 beta2 and, well, it was a bit 
> adventurous ;-)  and I'm asking myself if someone has tried to install 
> beta2 as update - there are too many obvious bugs, and some of them are 
> critical from my POV :-(
>
> Installation source: Factory tree + non-OSS tree, mirrored yesterday
>
> Just a short overview about the problems I had as short overview:
>
> - my 10.2 partition is only offered for update if I select "show all 
>   partitions" (and: no, I don't think that 
>   https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299667 is invalid - the
>   solution would be to ask for the password of the encrypted partition 
>   earlier)

Please file a bug report.

> - /etc/cryptotab is not converted to /dev/sd*, so mounting encrypted 
>   partitions while installation fails

Another bugreport.

> - /etc/fstab is also not converted, so mounting everything except /
>   fails
> - /boot/grub/device.map also wasn't modified, resulting in a failure
>   at bootloader installation
> - installing the kernel also failed because mkinitrd was still trying to 
>   use hda - workaround: change fstab manually

Lots of bugreports :-(  

> - the tab order in the dialog to add an add-on repository is broken
> - the pattern "update test packages" does not drop in any of the
>   "update-test-*" packages

Mmh - that's bad :-(

> - I had the latest KDE packages from Buildservice on 10.2, and the beta2
>   installation had to downgrade them. This resulted in lots of 
>   conflicts, YaST even marked the beta2 KDE packages with "arch change"
>   and did not honor what I chose in the conflict dialog.
>   I had to go to the packages mask and mark the KDE packages to be 
>   refreshed.
> - strange version difference: I'm still using agrep from SUSE 8.2, which 
>   is version 4.0 (newer releases didn't contain it) and now re-appeared 
>   with version 0.7.
> - on the first run, the installation aborted unexpectedly, probably 
>   because the y2logs and a testcase needed too much RAM.
>   Sidenote: I have 1GB RAM...
>   Next run without testcase generation worked, but still created ~300 MB
>   y2logs.
>   Question: does "manual" mode create bigger logs does this always 
>   happen? (reason for manual mode: linuxrc forces me to manual 
>   installation mode because it doesn't find my HTTP installation source 
>   in the first run - already filed a bug about this)
>   Anyways, expected result is a warning "out of RAM, please cleanup the 
>   logs or add swap."
> - oh, just after clicking "accept" in the pattern details view, I got 
>   about 200 MB additional y2log in 10 seconds...

with debuggin enabled?  This should not happen otherwise and would be
worth a bugreport.

> - dependency check is quite slow when you have many conflicts (but fast 
>   after you have solved them)
> - for OpenOffice, thesaurus packages are installed for lots of languages 
>   I never use. I'd expect to only have packages for my system language 
>   by default.

Agreed -> please do one more report.

> - Some packages unselected in pattern details (the OpenOffice thesaurus 
>   packages) were re-selected after clicking "packages" in the proposal - 
>   which means YaST does changes after a user has done a per-package 
>   selection in the pattern details view
> - what about gtk-qt-engine? It conflicts with kcm_gtk...

Isn't it removed?  But perhaps not done properly :-(

> - java_1_4_2_sun_jdbc also caused a conflict, maybe it should be 
>   obsoleted by a current (1.5.0) package

Yeah, perhaps we need one more bugreport.

> - YaST didn't display the slide show, dunno why
> - installation of several non-OSS packages failed with error 
>   message "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open: 
>   Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize [...]"
>   %post failed with exit status 127
>   affected: nspluginwrapper, acroread, flash-player, RealPlayer

I haven't seen this - please file a bug.

> - according to the y2log, the downloaded release notes have version 
>   10.2.3 which is obviously older than 10.3.5 in Factory

:-(

> - SuSEconfig.zzzopt_gnome-compat code looks ugly code, it should have 
>   more than one FIXME ;-)
> - opensuse-updater is not obsoleted by opensuse-updater-kde, so I have
>   installed both of them now

It should be, I check the spec file.  Please file a report.

>
> And some things I already found in the running system:
> - something seems to run "insserv -r boot.crypto" while installation, so 
>   my encrypted partition wasn't mounted at boot
>   (workaround: insserv it again)

:-(

> - opensuse-updater (the old one, still running after the update) lists 
>   also *packages* to update, not only patches (intended?)
> - opensuse-updater (again the old one) has a grey, empty area at the 
>   bottom - where's the patch description?
>
> - the new opensuse-updater-kde initially shows only an overview. I'm not 
>   yet sure if I really like this (for me it's a click mor