Re: [opensuse-factory] Problem booting a new hard drive with openSUSE 10.3

2007-12-04 Thread Sid Boyce

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Monday 2007-12-03 at 13:07 -, Sid Boyce wrote:

That would be a step a long way back in time. I thought slicing and 
dicing a separate /boot partition went out with the need for steam 
trains, when PC BIOS restrictions meant you couldn't boot from a 
partition extending beyond the first 1024 cylinders.


Saying that is as if the politicians say that there is no need for 
protection or that your job and savings are secure :-P


The theory is that you do not need a separate boot partition. However... 
the truth is that in some scenarios it does help, and my xtall ball 
tells me this /may/ be one of those cases.


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Carlos E. R.



Worth a try, using parted and squeezing /dev/sdb3 as /boot.



Thandk and Regards
Sid.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Problem booting a new hard drive with openSUSE 10.3

2007-12-04 Thread Sid Boyce

Viljo Mustonen wrote:

Sid Boyce kirjoitti:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Sunday 2007-12-02 at 19:04 -, Sid Boyce wrote:


When I boot from 10.3 x86_64 DVD or from the ext3 drive, I can mount
the jfs partition, also chroot works. In rescue mkinitrd also says
the jfs module is included. I may try with jfs in front of ext3 in
case it's due to a race condition.

I think you need a small /boot partition in ext2 format.

- -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.


That would be a step a long way back in time. I thought slicing and
dicing a separate /boot partition went out with the need for steam
trains, when PC BIOS restrictions meant you couldn't boot from a
partition extending beyond the first 1024 cylinders. If the partition
is ext3, reiserfs or anything else, it doesn't matter and I suspect
jfs wouldn't be that immature. Having said that, there is a gremlin in
there somewhere.
Perhaps later this week I shall try a new 10.3 jfs install on a
relative's box currently running 10.0, we have a spare 160G IDE drive
sitting there ready.



This problem exist also ext3 -> reiserfs change, perhaps in every file

system change.
Man mkinitrd tels:

   What should you do if the initrd is broken and you want to fix it
using
   a  chroot?   I  assume  /mnt  is  your target root and /boot is
mounted
   inside.

  1. mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
  2. chroot /mnt
  3. mount /proc
  4. mount /sys
  5. mkinitrd

This worked in my 32 bit system.

Old times it was much simpler.  :)

-- Viljo


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OK, I shall give that a try.
Regards
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[opensuse-factory] zypper from 10.3 to 10.2

2007-12-04 Thread Gabriel .
Is it possible to have zypper and yast from 10.3 working on 10.2? Does
it have any special requirement?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Help Wanted: Move YaST tutorials from forgeftp.novell.com to openSUSE WIKI

2007-12-04 Thread Rajko M.
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 03:28:23 pm J. Daniel Schmidt wrote:
> > > don't !! looks like making several subpages levels is not that good
> > > (see other thread)
>
> Which thread are you referring to?

In opensuse-wiki:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki/2007-12/msg1.html

One of ideas is to reduce usage of subpages. 
Please see if you can come up with some idea(s). 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] switch to Factory from 10.3

2007-12-04 Thread Ken Schneider
Stanislav Visnovsky pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
>> download.opensuse.org was being updated. 
> 
> If you update zypper first, you should be able to use a new, highly 
> experimental feature in zypper: 'zypper dup' - distribution upgrade algorithm 
> available from zypper. This one is more suitable for following Factory, as it 
> also includes handling of package renames, architecture changes etc.
> 
> If you are going to try it out, please, report how it went.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Stano
>

Just tried zypper dup and received an error:

Downloading: media
* Downloading [100%]
Problem downloading the package file from the repository:
Media source
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/
does not contain the desired media

Perhaps factory is being updated: 11:33PM zulu

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Help Wanted: Move YaST tutorials from forgeftp.novell.com to openSUSE WIKI

2007-12-04 Thread J. Daniel Schmidt
On Tuesday 04 December 2007, Rajko M. wrote:
> > >>> http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Printer
> > >> for example, why is not the printer page under
> > >> YaST/modules/printer???
> > >
> > don't !! looks like making several subpages levels is not that good
> > (see other thread)

Which thread are you referring to?

> > and this was just an example

> Done.
> You can see wiki: recent changes.
> Daniel made quite some effort to bring all related pages presented in
> the same way. That it gives some of us headache is another question.
>
> We have to establish new guidelines, so that at least frequent
> editors do all in the same way.

That is a good idea. Then we need to define what we agree on first.


> Wiki is no more little pet that can be moved around at will, 

Well you can - at least I did :)
But I had an idea behind and wanted to get at least some structure for 
our YaST pages.
Before that everything was floating around and was not linked anywhere.
Now as the pages are organized we got a navigation bar for free, so you 
can navigate through the levels.
And as authors have to think of where to put his new page they should be 
motivated to link it from the level above and add links (eg. in "See 
also" section) on pages of the same level (if applicable).

I regard this as a major feature to help people find the information 
they need. If pages are lost in the nowhere (only can be found by full 
text search) without links this does not help anybody.

> and it is still growing, thanks to guys like Daniel that are not
> afraid of work.


Ciao,
   Daniel

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Migration Assistant

2007-12-04 Thread Robison, Jonathon (M.)
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 17:58 +0100, Pavol Rusnak wrote:
> Hello all!
> 
> Ubuntu came with nice feature called Migration Assistant. It helps
> user to migrate documents and settings from another OS present on
> system. Currently it supports Windows (XP and Vista) and Linux. We
> imagined that it would be nice feature to have also in SUSE, so I began
> investigating it.
> 
> MA is set of command line utilities [1] and GUI frontend. Ubuntu's
> frontend is tightly connected with their installer and can be seen for
> example here [2].
> 
> [1] http://launchpad.net/migration-assistant/
> [2] http://www.michaellarabel.com/?k=blog&i=83
> 
> I built command line utilities in Build Service using some patches
> from Mandriva and me, but the hardest task was to implement GUI that can
> be used in SUSE. I was deciding between Qt application and YaST module.
> Finally I decided for second option, because that way it can be easily
> integrated into our installation process. After some hours and help
> from Martin Vidner (thanks!) I finished this YaST module and put it
> together with cmd-line tools into BuildService.
> 
> I'm aware that this YaST module has bugs in it (it was my first YaST
> module ever) and command line utils are not at their best also. :) But
> please, if you are interested in this tool (and have for example
> dual-boot with Windows or use more Linux instances on your computer), I
> would be really glad if you test this piece of software and I'll be
> looking forward to your feedback. Patches are of course welcome! :)
> 
> Sources are available from BuildService project home:prusnak:migration,
> where you can also find RPM packages built for your SUSE distribution:
> 
> https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Aprusnak%3Amigration
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/prusnak:/migration/
> 
> One known bug and you probably should be aware of it: tools import data
> into /home/$USER , so YaST module should not be run as root. (Running as
> root will import data into /home/root). I will deal with this later and
> maybe solve this probably by adding combobox to select user in YaST when
> running module as root.
> 
> I would like to rewrite command line utilities from scratch, using C++
> in future. Currently they are written in pure C and the code is pretty
> difficult to extend. I plan to use some kind of interfaces which will
> allow to write import plugins. Also support for migrating system wide
> settings could be nice (for example, various config files from /etc or
> registry, copying binary wifi driver from Windows into ndiswrapper), but
> MA can import only user settings right now. I'm open to any of your
> ideas! :)
> 

I love it when people see a need and immediately set out and do
something about it. Excellent work!

--Jonathon Robison


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[opensuse-factory] Migration Assistant

2007-12-04 Thread Pavol Rusnak
Hello all!

Ubuntu came with nice feature called Migration Assistant. It helps
user to migrate documents and settings from another OS present on
system. Currently it supports Windows (XP and Vista) and Linux. We
imagined that it would be nice feature to have also in SUSE, so I began
investigating it.

MA is set of command line utilities [1] and GUI frontend. Ubuntu's
frontend is tightly connected with their installer and can be seen for
example here [2].

[1] http://launchpad.net/migration-assistant/
[2] http://www.michaellarabel.com/?k=blog&i=83

I built command line utilities in Build Service using some patches
from Mandriva and me, but the hardest task was to implement GUI that can
be used in SUSE. I was deciding between Qt application and YaST module.
Finally I decided for second option, because that way it can be easily
integrated into our installation process. After some hours and help
from Martin Vidner (thanks!) I finished this YaST module and put it
together with cmd-line tools into BuildService.

I'm aware that this YaST module has bugs in it (it was my first YaST
module ever) and command line utils are not at their best also. :) But
please, if you are interested in this tool (and have for example
dual-boot with Windows or use more Linux instances on your computer), I
would be really glad if you test this piece of software and I'll be
looking forward to your feedback. Patches are of course welcome! :)

Sources are available from BuildService project home:prusnak:migration,
where you can also find RPM packages built for your SUSE distribution:

https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Aprusnak%3Amigration
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/prusnak:/migration/

One known bug and you probably should be aware of it: tools import data
into /home/$USER , so YaST module should not be run as root. (Running as
root will import data into /home/root). I will deal with this later and
maybe solve this probably by adding combobox to select user in YaST when
running module as root.

I would like to rewrite command line utilities from scratch, using C++
in future. Currently they are written in pure C and the code is pretty
difficult to extend. I plan to use some kind of interfaces which will
allow to write import plugins. Also support for migrating system wide
settings could be nice (for example, various config files from /etc or
registry, copying binary wifi driver from Windows into ndiswrapper), but
MA can import only user settings right now. I'm open to any of your
ideas! :)

-- 
Best Regards / S pozdravom,

Pavol RUSNAK   SUSE LINUX, s.r.o
Package MaintainerLihovarska 1060/12
PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR
prusnak[at]suse.czhttp://www.suse.cz
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Re: [opensuse-factory] ppc factory not being updated?

2007-12-04 Thread Peter Czanik

Hello,

Toni Harbaugh-Blackford wrote:
The ppc packages have not been updated since 11/25/07.  What is the 
problem?
Good question. But even if it was updated, you could not install it, see 
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343731 Now it is resolved, 
so I hope to see an update soon :-)

Bye,
CzP
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Problem booting a new hard drive with openSUSE 10.3

2007-12-04 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 02:25 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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> The Monday 2007-12-03 at 13:07 -, Sid Boyce wrote:
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> > That would be a step a long way back in time. I thought slicing and dicing 
> > a 
> > separate /boot partition went out with the need for steam trains, when PC 
> > BIOS restrictions meant you couldn't boot from a partition extending beyond 
> > the first 1024 cylinders.
> 
> Saying that is as if the politicians say that there is no need for 
> protection or that your job and savings are secure :-P
> 
> The theory is that you do not need a separate boot partition. However... 
> the truth is that in some scenarios it does help, and my xtall ball tells 
> me this /may/ be one of those cases.
> 

AFAIK, /boot can not be put in an LVM. everything else can.

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[opensuse-factory] ppc factory not being updated?

2007-12-04 Thread Toni Harbaugh-Blackford


The ppc packages have not been updated since 11/25/07.  What is the 
problem?


Thanks,
Toni

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