Re: InfoPath form upgrade support for next version of SharePoint

[Bill Williamson]

What does "fully supported" mean.

Does it mean that the app will be abandoned but get security updates if
necessary, or that future versions of SharePoint will fully work with
customised forms made with it and that future versions of office will come
with the editor?

My guess is the first.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:05 AM, James Boman wrote:

>  Paul,
>
>
>
> If I were you – I would wait.
>
>
>
> Two reasons:
>
> -  InfoPath will be fully supported until 2023.
>
> -  The next version of SharePoint includes “FoSL” (Forms over
> SharePoint Lists).  This is essentially a port of the Access Services forms
> designer to work on top of standard SharePoint lists.  Once this is
> available, then people can re-author their customised SharePoint list forms.
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>
> Hi guys,
>
>
>
> I have a 2013 site that uses customised list forms (InfoPath) extensively.
> Does anyone know if MS plan to provide any kind of upgrade support for next
> SharePoint version? Or should I just go ahead and rebuild these in a
> supported way now? My preference is the latter.
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Re: SP 2003 blobs

[Bill Williamson]

What metadata do you need?

If only filename, and you can rename duplicates blah.doc.2 blah.doc.3 for
duplicates, this is well under 200 lines of code or powershell talking
direct to the db.  Since it's decomissioned there's no danger, and the file
content column is simply the exact file contents.


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Ajay  wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I just talked to a client who had SharePoint 2003 environment which they
> decommissioned sometime back.
>
> Now they are asking if we can extract all the documents from the content
> databases;
> they have kept the backups of the databases.
>
> Quick google; I am seeing some examples in code and also someone said
> using integration services.
>
> What do you think; this should be achievable job,
>
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Re: sharepoint 2010 cumulative updates April vs February

[Bill Williamson]

There is a HUGE issue with any CU which includes KB2687418. March and April
CU have it.

It completely breaks managed metadata on any published item, including the
OOTB enterprise wiki. It also gives all published pages an invalid security
validation.

We have a sev 1 PSS call open about it.
On 10/05/2013 7:40 AM, "Marc & Sally Seydel"  wrote:

> Has anyone experience any issu with the April CU updates for sharepoint
> 2010 or would you recomment to stick with Februaryupdates.
> We normaly try to go for N-1 but by the time this will be in production the
> new updates will most likiely be released
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Re: install-spsolution -allwebapplications ... add new webapp?

[Bill Williamson]

So that means you're using -force, since the solution is already deployed?

Seems a bit hacky.


On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Web Admin
wrote:

> There is no self-discovery. And in many cases you wouldn't there to be!
>
> IMO the right way is to install and deploy any required solutions after
> provisioning the web app.
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> On 29 November 2012 11:28, Bill Williamson  wrote:
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>> allwebapplciations
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install-spsolution -allwebapplications ... add new webapp?

[Bill Williamson]

What is the "right" way to get web.config changes made by an installed
solution into NEW web applications?

We install with -allwebapplciations, which makes the changes to existing
apps, but does not add it to new apps as you might expect.

Running install again does not work unless you choose -force, and it seems
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Re: Large Lists

[Bill Williamson]

Just to play devils advocate, why sharepoint as the data storage
mechanism?  This seems so far outside its use case as to be hilarious.


What's the actual use case here?  I'd hope you're not planning to do
any reporting on those list items, as that will be subject to the 5000
item issue.

I'd recommend BCS talking to a really simple except that you're
talking about Foundation.

If:
-adding the items is automated
-you're using the search API (which isn't subject to the same limits
as the list query APIs) to navigate to items
-you're editing one item at a time
-you don't need to report in aggregate

Have you considered the possibility of storing the items in a new
Folder per month, and possibly a new List per year?  Another option,
which is possibly even safer, would be to create a monthly List as
well to prevent an accidental query that goes over the limits, but
that's also more overhead.


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Ajay  wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> If you have any recommendations, suggestions, for large lists, any
> recommendation for change in design , let me know
>
> Scenario is defined below: this is SharePoint 2010 Foundation
>
> A custom list with 30 columns is being populated via custom webpart, about
> 100 list items will be added daily.
> There will be custom web part to search the items from the custom list,
> search will return 1 unique item.
> The item returned via search can/will be edited as well, through custom web
> parts.
>
> Ques: The list view threshold of OOB 5000 is for displaying data, but the
> data displayed to the users will be 1 each time (search result), e.g. users
> search and web part gets the item via custom CAML query, and then user can
> view or edit the item.
> This is the main task users will do, search and then view or edit.
>
> Ques : Do you for see any issues when list reaches 100K items, anything we
> need to think of now
>
> Imp Ques : E.g. If a list has 20K items, query view threshold is 10K, we run
> a CAML query for an item in list, that query should not have anything to do
> with threshold or will it be...
> does the threshold has to match/exceed list items for caml query to work ?
>
> What I am thinking to recommend
> 1.) Make sure CAML queries are efficient and avoid know pitfalls.
> 2.) Index the columns which will be used in search
>
>
> Cheers,
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Re: SPS2010 and Outlook calendar integration

[Bill Williamson]

Are psts disabled?

On Thursday, May 3, 2012, Nigel Hertz wrote:

>  Hi guys
>
> ** **
>
> One of our business users got this error message today, when trying to
> connect a calendar from a SPS2010 site to Outlook 2010. I can’t seem to
> find anything relating to this error for Office 2010 – only 2K3 and 2K7.
> The registry keys mentioned don’t exist on this users machine. The user has
> full control to the site as well as the calendar list in the site. Does
> anyone have any ideas?
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Re: Ping!

[Bill Williamson]

do what now?

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Re: Programmatically creating subsites (MOSS)

[Bill Williamson]

At times like this it's easiest to decompile the stsadmin managed
code.  It usually calls the API in fairly standard ways.

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Nigel Hertz
 wrote:
> Hey all
>
>
>
> I know it’s possible to create subsites etc programmatically using code
> similar to the below:
>
>
>
> SPWebApplication webApp = new
> SPSite("http://MySiteCollection";).WebApplication;
>
> SPSiteCollection siteCollections = webApp.Sites;
>
>
>
> SPSite newSiteCollection = siteCollections.Add("sites/Site_Name",
>
> "Site_Title", "Site_Description", 1033, "STS#0",
>
> "DOMAIN\\User", "Owner_User_Name", "Owner_Email");
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> What I would like to know is if anyone is aware of a way to programmatically
> create sites in the same manner as the ‘stsadm –o createsiteinnewdb’
> command?
>
>
>
> Nigel
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Re: Sharepoint 2010 RTM on Windows 7

[Bill Williamson]

It'll be related to ax plugins.

On Monday, May 17, 2010, Read, Kevin  wrote:
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> I know – very bizarre – I was doing my head in until I
> tried that option.
>
>
>
> Maybe it’s linked to the Office 64 bit v 32 bit issue as well
> 
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com
> [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
> Sent: Monday, 17 May 2010 11:54 AM
> To: ozMOSS
> Subject: RE: Sharepoint 2010 RTM on Windows 7
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>
>
>
>
>
> When
> you say the function is disabled, do you mean the link isn’t available
> under Web Application Management or that the form fields aren’t usable?
>
>
>
> Just
> curious. It seems bizarre that the platform version of IE could cause this.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
> Online Developer, ICT
> CEO Sydney
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Sent: Monday, 17 May 2010 11:48 AM
> To: ozMOSS
> Subject: RE: Sharepoint 2010 RTM on Windows 7
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>
>
> Use the 32 bit version of IE not the 64 Bit (in Administrator
> mode).  That worked for me.
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
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> Hi,
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>
>
> I have intalled SP2010 on windows 7.. but cannot create a
> new web application.
>
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> The Create New Web Application function is disabled in
> Central Admin
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> I am using IE 8 and start it with Run as
> Administrator and then start Central Admin from that session.
>
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> The account I am logging in from is part of the Farm
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Re: SP2010 RTM's!

[Bill Williamson]

That means it was sent to the cd gnomes. So unless you have a friend
in the pressing facility you'll still have to wait for rtw

On Saturday, April 17, 2010, Daniel Brown  wrote:
> FYI
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/sharepoint/archive/2010/04/16/sharepoint-2010-reaches-rtm.aspx
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Re: Data view web part

[Bill Williamson]

-the connection string is stored in plain text, accessible to anyone
with designer.  For this reason you should REALLY use
passthrough/kerberos authentication.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Ajay  wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> If I create a data view web part in which has to access data from custom sql
> server database.
> Will it be easy to deploy the site across different environments (staging,
> test etc).. where is the connection string information stored...
> Thanks,
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Re: Site Usage Summaries Again

[Bill Williamson]

IIS logs are basically worthless.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Mark Burns  wrote:

>  I have made the decision to abandon MOSS Usage Reporting and go with a
> solution of parsing logs into a SQL database.  The question is, do I parse
> the IIS logs or the MOSS usage logs.
>
>
>
> Parsing IIS logs seems easy to do out of the box with LogParser.
>
> Parsing MOSS logs with LogParser does not appear to provide useful broken
> down information.  There  seems to be a requirement for  a purpose written
> parser to dissect the information.  Is this correct?
>
>
>
> What is the consensus of SharePoint experts out in OzMoss land – use MOSS
> logs or IIS logs?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
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> *Sent:* Friday, 5 March 2010 8:56 AM
>
> *To:* ozMOSS
> *Subject:* RE: Site Usage Summaries Again
>
>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> We gave up on the in-built reporting and wrote an application to pull the
> logs into SQL Server then have an analysis services cube to slice and dice
> in Excel. Works pretty well and I am happy to share the code if you’re
> interested.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Jason Taylor
>
> SAGE Automation
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] *On
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> *Sent:* Thursday, 4 March 2010 3:15 PM
> *To:* 'ozMOSS'
> *Subject:* Site Usage Summaries Again
>
>
>
> 1)  I am trying to reconcile the site usage data that is available
> from SharePoint Designer reports and the site usage summary data
> (_layouts/SpUsageWeb.aspx) from MOSS.  I can’t seem to match the data up?
> Should they match up?
>
> 2)  After a hiccup where site usage data wasn’t being generated for a
> week due to CA issues, no data is displayed in MOSS site usage summaries for
> the period before the hiccup, even though the data used to be reported.
>
> 3)  SPD shows the historical data not reported in MOSS.  Does MOSS get
> the data from a different location to SPD?  I think not, but I don’t
> understand.
>
> 4)  Does the usage data stored in the Content DB only include 30 day
> detailed information and then summarised month information?
>
> 5)  Since the hiccup, the SharePoint usage logs are written to a
> different file location, i.e. different GUID file name.  Can the data from
> different log file locations be combined into one location?  And will it
> help in getting MOSS to report historical site usage information?
>
> 6)  Is there a good reference for better understanding the SharePoint
> Usage logging and reporting “model(s)”.
>
>
>
> I know the above is a lot to ask, but I can’t seem to locate a reference
> that ties it all together.
>
>
>
> HELP!
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>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
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Re: The SharePoint + Domain Controller situation

[Bill Williamson]

His question was "why?"

everyone knows the advice, but apart from a bug in RC1 VM (which was
years ago now) I've never heard a reason.

So it's handy to have someone from ms in this thread, as you could
likely answer:
-what goes wrong
and more importantly
-why

On Friday, February 5, 2010, Aaron Saikovski
 wrote:
> Hi Joe,
> What I normally do in this situation is to create a domain control in a VM 
> and my SharePoint dev in another. I like to keep them separate as this kind 
> of simulates a real world setup.
> I allocate say 1GB ram for the DC and about 4-6GB ram for my sharepoint VM.
>
> My advice is to keep them separate.
>
> Hope that this helps
>
> Regards,
> Aaron Saikovski
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> Subject: The SharePoint + Domain Controller situation
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> Hi List!
>
> As a fairly new SharePoint developer, I've seen anecdotal references all over 
> the Internet about how installing SharePoint and the Domain Controller server 
> role on the same server is a one-way ticket to disaster town.
>
> What I am yet to discover is *why* this is bad? What problems does it cause?
>
> I'm trying to setup some nice clean virtual machine images for my development 
> environment and was wondering what's the ideal setup?
> Should I run my dev environment SharePoint server just using local accounts? 
> Is it OK to have the DC on the same computer in a controlled development 
> environment? Should I run an additional virtual machine to act as the domain 
> controller?
>
> All advice/suggestions appreciated :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Joe.
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Re: KPIs

[Bill Williamson]

KPIs as a whole are quite quirky and buggy.  Neat idea, but not even fully
supported by the API (try writing your own web part to show the value of a
KPI without using reflection and disassembling MS's dlls...)

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Chris Grist wrote:

>  Wow, is this a bug.
>
>
>
> On the Data Source URL, its set the name = where the site was template
> from, and the content = the site its on.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Chris Grist
> *Sent:* Thursday, 29 October 2009 9:42 AM
> *To:* ozMOSS
> *Subject:* KPIs
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Im wanting to template up KPIs within a site template.
>
>
>
> Ive noticed that the URL is static and not relative.
>
>
>
> 1)  Is there any way around this, or perhaps a better custom webpart.
>
> 2)  Is there a way to modify these values programmatically either via
> a webpart checking/setting site values or by some other way, are they
> essentially just list items with properties?
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
> Chris Grist
> ICT Systems Support Manager
> Education.au Limited
>
>
>
> Level 1, 182 Fullarton Road
> DULWICH SA 5065
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Re: SharePoint Site Directory

[Bill Williamson]

Of 2007?

HA, i kill me!

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Michael Nemtsev  wrote:
> Btw, BETA2 should be released November 18th
>
>
>
> From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf
> Of Nigel Hertz
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 October 2009 11:09 AM
>
> To: ozMOSS
> Subject: RE: SharePoint Site Directory
>
>
>
> I’m desperately hoping to obtain a beta copy of SPS 2010 soon. I want to
> start planning how to convince the powers-that-be that we NEED it :p
>
>
>
> From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf
> Of Paul Noone
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 October 2009 10:10 AM
> To: ozMOSS
> Subject: RE: SharePoint Site Directory
>
>
>
> Just as a follow up, I’m trying to achieve a per site collection replacement
> using the Table Of Contents web part but the filtering leaves a bit to be
> desired. Is there any easy way to hack this to show ONLY sites and subsites?
>
>
>
> None of the filter web parts let me define a contentclass value.
>
>
>
> I don’t want to use CQWP (which is always restircited to a list type anyway)
> because I like the current hierachy and column display options.
>
>
>
> From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf
> Of Paul Noone
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 October 2009 8:37 AM
> To: ozMOSS
> Subject: RE: SharePoint Site Directory
>
>
>
> That’s just about the best news I’ve heard all week. J
>
>
>
> Will they be replacing it with a cross site lookup that can query ALL site
> collections and sites from a master list, and present them in the expected
> tree view?
>
>
>
> From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf
> Of Michael Nemtsev
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 October 2009 9:51 PM
> To: 'ozMOSS'
> Subject: RE: SharePoint Site Directory
>
>
>
> Just delete Site Directory J
>
> SharePoint 2010 doesn’t support it any longer
> http://tinyurl.com/sp2010uichanges
>
>
>
> From: ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss-boun...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf
> Of Paul Noone
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 October 2009 2:39 PM
> To: ozMOSS
> Subject: SharePoint Site Directory
>
>
>
> After dozens of user complaints about how lame this template is I’m now in a
> position where I’m being forced to either get it to list ALL sites
> (collections) or delete it.
>
>
>
> I’m sure all of you have encountered the following when trying to apply a
> site directory URL that is outside the current site collection.
>
>
>
> “The location entered is not a site collection relative path, or the
> specified Site Directory does not exist in the current Site Collection.”
>
>
>
> But what good is a Site Directory if it’s limited to one collection?! And
> given this limitation, why bother having a Master Site Directory setting in
> Central Administration!?
>
>
>
> I briefly considered creating a new site directory for each site collection
> but quickly scrapped that idea when I realised it’d be even more confusing
> to end users.
>
>
>
> I then looked at cross-site lookups, scope result page, and even a custom
> sitemap provider. But all of these would mean a loss of functionality
> (categorisation, listing settings per site etc). So now I’m back to simply
> deleting it. Which kinda sucks.
>
>
>
> I’d be very interested to hear what others have done in this area.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
> Online Developer, ICT
> CEO Sydney
>
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Re: Site Collection Admin - use group

[Bill Williamson]

Are you talking about in central admin?

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Paul Noone
 wrote:
> Has anyone found a nifty way to hack the site collection admin people picker
> field so it’ll accept groups??
>
>
>
> SharePoint Manager won’t let me edit these fields. L
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
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>
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> CEO Sydney
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Re: ozmoss post acknowledgement

[Bill Williamson]

AHA, you can turn this off in settings, but perhaps a default would be
appropriate.

"Receive acknowledgement mail when you send mail to the list?" is the setting.

Good to be on MailMan, it's by far my favorite list manager for
hosting yourself.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Bill Williamson  wrote:
> AND we're getting these every time we post...
>
>
> Really glad we're back though, this is a very useful list.
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Fwd: ozmoss post acknowledgement

[Bill Williamson]

AND we're getting these every time we post...


Really glad we're back though, this is a very useful list.


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Re: Testing, testing, 1, 2, 3

[Bill Williamson]

Reply-to on this new list is set to the original poster.

15 years ago I'd have said that was a good thing, but most people
nowadays click reply, not reply all, so perhaps it should be changed
to reply-to the list?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Nigel Hertz
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> Are we live?  J
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
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>
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Re: Uploading Files to SharePoint 2007 that contain Special Characters

[Bill Williamson]

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Richard Ing wrote:
> I been searching the net and so far run into suggestions that the filenames
> should just be changed, but our customers require these characters.


One of two things must be changed:

A. the filenames
B. the platform you're using

I'd say A would be easier but if it's a requirement then B may be your
only option.

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Re: Web part with dll reference [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Bill Williamson]

If it's a COM Exception read my last post, I'm 99.9% certain one of
those three is right.  If it's related to k2 then i'm 100% sure :p

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Chris
Milne wrote:
> I had, however like I mentioned in my earlier post I was unsure about having
> the assembly name and namespace the same. Have changed these to be different
> in the external library project and I’ve got a bit further, it’s now giving
> me a COMException error specific to the external library functionality.
> Off-topic for here so I’ll take further investigation offline. J
>
>
>
> Simple in the end, thanks for everyone’s help!
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Chris Milne
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Specker,
> Caroline
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 4:36 PM
> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> Subject: RE: Web part with dll reference [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> Have you double checked the safe control entry to make sure it matches the
> dll exactly - in particular the public key token?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Chris Milne
>
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 4:25 PM
>
> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>
> Subject: RE: Web part with dll reference
>
>
>
> Hey Chris(tian) :)
>
>
>
> Nope, the externally-referenced assembly doesn't reference any other
>
> external assemblies, it only uses standard System namespace stuff.
>
>
>
> A tempting approach to install the external one separately, but I think
>
> in my case it'd be ideal to deploy them together. The external one is
>
> just a library that would never be used as a feature on its own, it
>
> would only be used when packaged with something else, a web
>
> part/workflow/something. I see where you're coming from though, I'll
>
> keep it in mind as an alternative. Cheers.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of
>
> chris_py_...@manulife.com
>
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 4:03 PM
>
> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>
> Cc: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>
> Subject: RE: Web part with dll reference
>
>
>
> chris, i think he meant your external reference assembly probably
>
> reference
>
> to another external reference assembly. I wouldnt deploy the external
>
> reference assembly with your solution but instead install them
>
> separately
>
> (if there is installation for it) but as jeremy suggested you can add
>
> the
>
> safe control entry from your deployment, but that's just me.
>
>
>
> BTW there are 4 chris' here LOL
>
>
>
> regards
>
>
>
> christian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Chris Milne"
>
> 
> aspects.com.au> To
>
> Sent by: 
>
> ozmoss@ozmoss.com cc
>
>
>
> Subject
>
> 07/28/2009 01:56 RE: Web part with dll reference
>
> PM
>
>
>
> Please respond to
>
> ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>
> Hey Chris,
>
>
>
> Worth a shot, but no, all references in that project are System.*.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Chris
>
> Tomich
>
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 3:51 PM
>
> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>
> Subject: Re: Web part with dll reference
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>
>
> Shot in the dark here but does your externally referenced assembly have
>
> references to other assemblies that you aren't deploying?
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Chris Tomich
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Chris Milne <
>
> chris.mi...@dataaspects.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Jeremy [update: and Sezai].
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yep, sorry, ‘tis VSeWSS 1.3 CTP using WSP.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Copy Local is set to true on my reference and it does indeed deploy both
>
> my
>
> web part and referenced assembly to c:\windows\assembly\.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I tried manually adding a  entry to the web.config for my
>
> referenced assembly to no avail, same result.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Also found in SP log:
>
>
>
>
>
> http://server/chris/default.aspx - An unexpected error has been
>
> encountered
>
> in this Web Part. Error: This page has encountered a critical error.
>
> Contact your system administrator if this problem persists.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> which unfortunately is no more exciting than what I’m seeing on the
>
> page.
>
> Have followed this post to turn on extra debug info, am now seeing this
>
> on
>
> page:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Web Part Error: A Web Part or Web Form Control on this Page cannot be
>
> displayed or imported. The type could not be found or it is not
>
> registered
>
> as safe.
>
>
>
>
>
> Show Error Details
>
>
>
>
>
> Hide Error Details
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [UnsafeControlException: A Web Part or Web Form Control on this Page
>
> cannot
>
> be displayed or imported. The type could not be found or it is not
>
> registered as safe.]
>
> at
>
> Microsoft.SharePoint.ApplicationRuntime.SafeControlsGetTypeFromGuid
>
> (Guid guid)
>
> at
>
> Microsoft.SharePoint.WebPartPages.SPWebPartManager.CreateWebP

Re: Web part with dll reference

[Bill Williamson]

Turn on the dotnet assembly resolution logging, it will likely tell
you what's wrong.

My guesses:
-assembly referenced from your filesystem.  that makes it a non-strong
reference.  When it's copied to the GAC you are no longer finding it.
In visual studio, are you referencing it from your GAC or from your
filesystem?

-If the referenced DLLs have native components you are running into
32/64bit problems.  We ran into this with K2 BlackPearl as their
client dlls are written in C++ without the right flags set.

-As per #2, you're using a component built in VC++.net and do not have
the VC++ redistributable  installed on your server.  It seems liek a
problem that should have gone away after VB6 but it still exists.

All 3 of the problems above were run into while writing a custom
component to talk to K2 BP.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Chris
Milne wrote:
> Afternoon all,
>
>
>
> I’m developing a web part in which I would like to reference functionality
> that exists in one of our other company Visual Studio projects (.net
> assembly/dll).  I’m having trouble doing this and hoping someone can point
> me in the right direction J  I’ve created a simple VS web part project which
> works if I deploy it just by itself (not using the library functionality).
> I then added a reference to my dll, added a ‘using’ to import the namespace
> into my code (if I deploy again at this point it still works), but if I add
> one line of code that uses the external library into CreateChildControls()
> and deploy, I get a generic ‘Error An Unexpected error has occurred’ message
> on a page the webpart exists on.
>
>
>
> Visual Studio is automatically adding a  to my
> web.config for my web part assembly but not the external library assembly,
> do I need to add that?  Both assemblies are automatically being added to the
> GAC.  Any help is appreciated!
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Chris
>
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Re: Bamboo web part suite [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Bill Williamson]

Ahh, you have VMs per dev.  We don't support that model, which is good
for us for this.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Noja, Fadi wrote:
> Licensing is an issue with it though.  We're in the process of
> purchasing licenses here and we have to purchase them even on our DEV
> boxes.  If you have say 10 developers, it's not cheap.
>
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> Williamson
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>
> Anyone used it? Pros/cons/great/sucks/?
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Bamboo web part suite

[Bill Williamson]

Anyone used it? Pros/cons/great/sucks/?

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Re: Who plans to adopt SharePoint 2010 from beta?!

[Bill Williamson]

We're still waiting on 2007 to get out of beta...

Kidding aside, we did install 2007 as a beta pilot, and overall feel
quite burned from the process so we'll probably be on the late adopter
for 2010.  I'm especially interested in the migration story, which I'm
guessing is "there's not one".

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Michael
Nemtsev wrote:
> I wonder if any companies in Australia are planning to adopt the SharePoint
> 2010 from the earlier betas
>
> and would be interesting in the series of training and guidance from the
> first day it become available for public?
>
>
>
> I’m thinking to start creating such trainings and assistance for these who
> are interested, but wonder how much SharePoint 2010 “early bird”
> organizations are over here
>
>
>
> Michael Nemtsev
> Readify | Microsoft MVP
>
> B: http://msmvps.com/blogs/laflour/  T: +61 424 184 978
>
>
>
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Re: Site features vs site collection features

[Bill Williamson]

What's the sharepoint analogy to suing your own fans though?  Attempting
migration/using CMS features?

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Paul Culmsee <
paul.culm...@sevensigma.com.au> wrote:

>  Here’s a dodgy analogy that I have used to explain the difference to
> people  – (I like dodgy analogies ;-)
>
>
>
> Take an example of a Metallica concert.
>
>
>
> Metallica (the band) is the site feature. Without them you have no concert
> as they play the music. However if you removed the stage, the roadies, the
> lighting, the alcohol and the soundsystem then you wouldn’t have a Metallica
> concert, despite Metallica standing around looking lost.
>
>
>
> So the site collection feature can be viewed as “setting the stage” for the
> site feature. It puts all the necessary pre-requisites into place for the
> site scoped feature to work.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> www.cleverworkarounds.com
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Sezai
> Komur
> *Sent:* Monday, 22 June 2009 2:48 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Re: Site features vs site collection features
>
>
>
> You are right about the Office SharePoint Server Publishing site feature, a
> ton of things are not available without it active, if you create a basic
> Team Site you can't manage navigation, switch the master page, create
> publishing pages etc, you'll notice a big difference in the number of
> options available in the site actions menu. The page editing toolbar only
> displays on publishing pages. Activating the Office SharePoint Server
> Publishing will create a pages library and other lists and libraries
> required to support publishing.
>
>
>
> It also depends on the site template used to create the subsites, if you
> create a new publishing site and view the site features you'll notice that
> the Office SharePoint Server Publishing site feature is already activated
> for the new site (because it is referenced in the Onet.xml for the
> publishing site).
>
>
>
> Whether or not you need the features enabled depends on what you need to
> use the site for really, I've seen this cause confusion before, by default
> if you create a basic team site in a publishing enabled site collection it
> won't have the publishing feature enabled in the team site. Then users
> wonder why they can't create publishing pages and need to use a content
> editor web part instead.
>
>
>
> Sezai.
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Jeremy Thake 
> wrote:
>
> The difference is in the scope. You will need the Site Collection Features
> and the Site Features both activated to get all the features. Most of the
> Site Templates will do this for you, but if you are doing it after the fact,
> you should activate them at both if you need them. This is a more granular
> way to allocate Features to particular sites underneath a site collection.
>
>
>
> For publishing...you don’t “have to”, but you won’t get certain
> functionality in new sites if you don’t activate it. I may be wrong, but off
> the top of my head the Page Editing Toolbar won’t be there on a sub site if
> you don’t active the Publishing Site Feature on it, even if the Publishing
> Site Collection feature is there.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Noone
> *Sent:* Monday, 22 June 2009 4:00 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Site features vs site collection features
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> After a quick audit of my sites I’ve come looking for some clarification as
> to what the difference is between site features and site collection
> features.
>
>
>
> For example, If I have enabled the following features at the site
> collection level, do I also need to activate them for each new sub site. It
> doesn’t appear to be the case but it does make it confusing to determine
> which features are actually set for a specific site.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
> Online Developer, ICT
> CEO Sydney
>
>
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Re: Diagnostics on running workflows

[Bill Williamson]

I appreciate the advice, but this won't help with our current audit of
running workflows...  It also woudln't find workflows that had hit an
errored state before setting that column, and you could only have 1 workflow
per list item. :(

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Jeremy Thake wrote:

>  You could create a base content type and derive all your List Items from
> it by associating your List with it. This base content type could have a
> Site Column which you could set as part of your workflow. Then you can use
> CAML to filter by the Site Column across the Content Type (e.g. across all
> lists in the Site Collection) to report out on the Workflows.
>
> I must admit I don’t do much with SPD workflows, you may be able to get it
> from CAML direct, but I haven’t got a VM up to check. U2U CamlBuilder
> pointing at a list with the workflow on it would tell you straight away in
> the UI.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Williamson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 3 June 2009 4:24 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Re: Diagnostics on running workflows
>
>
>
> Mostly SPD workflows attached to individual lists.
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Jeremy Thake 
> wrote:
>
> Just to get some more context on this. Are these your own custom workflows
> in Visual Studio or SPD *OR *are they just out of the box workflows such
> as Approval workflow?
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Williamson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 3 June 2009 3:27 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Re: Diagnostics on running workflows
>
> But there's no list property that says "I have a workflow active"... Or is
> there?
>
> CAML querying would be super easy, I just don't think a filter exists.
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Jeremy Thake 
> wrote:
>
> You could use CAML and filter by a particular property...not seen any
> sample code of this though.
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Williamson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:08 PM
>
>
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Diagnostics on running workflows
>
> We have a few runaway workflows, and would generally like to know what
> workflows are currently running in our system.
>
> From what I have read, the only way to do this is (using the api,
> pseudocode):
> foreach(site in sites)
> {
> foreach(list in site.lists)
> {
> foreach(item in list.items)
> {
> CheckActiveWorkflowsForItem(item);
> }
> }
> }
>
>
> Is there REALLY no way to do this apart from iterating on every single
> freaking item in the entire site collection?
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Re: Diagnostics on running workflows

[Bill Williamson]

Mostly SPD workflows attached to individual lists.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Jeremy Thake wrote:

>  Just to get some more context on this. Are these your own custom
> workflows in Visual Studio or SPD *OR *are they just out of the box
> workflows such as Approval workflow?
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Williamson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 3 June 2009 3:27 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Re: Diagnostics on running workflows
>
>
>
> But there's no list property that says "I have a workflow active"... Or is
> there?
>
> CAML querying would be super easy, I just don't think a filter exists.
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Jeremy Thake 
> wrote:
>
> You could use CAML and filter by a particular property...not seen any
> sample code of this though.
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Williamson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:08 PM
>
>
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Diagnostics on running workflows
>
> We have a few runaway workflows, and would generally like to know what
> workflows are currently running in our system.
>
> From what I have read, the only way to do this is (using the api,
> pseudocode):
> foreach(site in sites)
> {
> foreach(list in site.lists)
> {
> foreach(item in list.items)
> {
> CheckActiveWorkflowsForItem(item);
> }
> }
> }
>
>
> Is there REALLY no way to do this apart from iterating on every single
> freaking item in the entire site collection?
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Re: Diagnostics on running workflows

[Bill Williamson]

But there's no list property that says "I have a workflow active"...  Or is
there?

CAML querying would be super easy, I just don't think a filter exists.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Jeremy Thake wrote:

>  You could use CAML and filter by a particular property...not seen any
> sample code of this though.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Williamson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:08 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Diagnostics on running workflows
>
>
>
> We have a few runaway workflows, and would generally like to know what
> workflows are currently running in our system.
>
> From what I have read, the only way to do this is (using the api,
> pseudocode):
> foreach(site in sites)
> {
> foreach(list in site.lists)
> {
> foreach(item in list.items)
> {
> CheckActiveWorkflowsForItem(item);
> }
> }
> }
>
>
> Is there REALLY no way to do this apart from iterating on every single
> freaking item in the entire site collection?
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Re: Security - document libraries

[Bill Williamson]

Yeah, just don't forget you can almost always do
\\servername\site\path\documentlibrary from windows explorer...

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Paul Noone <
paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au> wrote:

>  If you delete /Forms/WebFldr.aspx I think you’ll find they won’t be able
> to, least not via the View drop-down.
>
>
>
> Just something else I discovered by accident one day. J
>
>
>
> You can also hide the toolbar or specific action items easily enough too
> using CSS and/or javascript. I recently did this for our Document Centre.
> It’s hardly bulletproof but it fools most people.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Williamson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 3 June 2009 4:04 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Re: Security - document libraries
>
>
>
> And when they connect via fileshare?
>
> IMO views are not a replacement for security. This sounds like something
> for workflow.
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Paul Noone <
> paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au> wrote:
>
> · Create a custom view.
>
> · Filter it on [Me].
>
> · Set as default view.
>
> · Delete other views (yes, you can do this).
>
> · Lock down permissions on the list.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
> Online Developer, ICT
> CEO Sydney
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter
> Milliner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 3 June 2009 3:16 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Security - document libraries
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have a user that requires timesheet creation (using an excel template) to
> a document library but does not want other users to see each others
> timesheets.
>
> Does anybody know if it is possible to configure a document library so that
> the user can only see the documents they have uploaded or created. I know
> this is possible on other lists under advanced features but not on document
> libraries.
>
> I have found some workarounds suggesting using folders for each user and
> setting permissions on folders or views using the created by [Me] filter
>
> Does anyone have any other suggestions
>
> Regards
>
> *Peter Milliner*
>
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>
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>
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Re: Security - document libraries

[Bill Williamson]

And when they connect via fileshare?

IMO views are not a replacement for security.  This sounds like something
for workflow.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Paul Noone <
paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au> wrote:

>  · Create a custom view.
>
> · Filter it on [Me].
>
> · Set as default view.
>
> · Delete other views (yes, you can do this).
>
> · Lock down permissions on the list.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
> Online Developer, ICT
> CEO Sydney
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter
> Milliner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 3 June 2009 3:16 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Security - document libraries
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I have a user that requires timesheet creation (using an excel template) to
> a document library but does not want other users to see each others
> timesheets.
>
>
>
> Does anybody know if it is possible to configure a document library so that
> the user can only see the documents they have uploaded or created.  I know
> this is possible on other lists under advanced features but not on document
> libraries.
>
>
>
> I have found some workarounds suggesting using folders for each user and
> setting permissions on folders or views using the created by [Me] filter
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any other suggestions
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> *Peter Milliner*
>
> Intranet (SharePoint Administrator)
>
> Information Technology and Communications Unit
>
> Bendigo Regional Institute of TAFE
>
> PO Box 170, Bendigo Victoria 3552
>
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Diagnostics on running workflows

[Bill Williamson]

We have a few runaway workflows, and would generally like to know what
workflows are currently running in our system.

>From what I have read, the only way to do this is (using the api,
pseudocode):
foreach(site in sites)
{
  foreach(list in site.lists)
  {
foreach(item in list.items)
{
  CheckActiveWorkflowsForItem(item);
}
  }
}


Is there REALLY no way to do this apart from iterating on every single
freaking item in the entire site collection?

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Re: Custom Timer Job failed without error

[Bill Williamson]

There's also funniness that there is no way to guarantee it will always
run.  Even with "none" it runs on every server THAT WAS THERE when you
submitted the job.  Say you have two WFE servers.  If you add two more
servers later, it won't run on them.  If you then decommission your original
servers it will not run at all, and also not throw an error.

I would not advise using the sharepoint timer jobs for anything.  Period.


On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Sezai Komur wrote:

> Have a read of this Ken:
> http://www.shillier.com/archive/2009/05/01/where-is-my-timer-job.aspx
> "...The SPJobDefinition class has a property called LockType. When set to
> SPJobLockType.Job then the job only runs on the server where the job was
> submitted. If the value is SPJobLockType.None, then the job runs on every
> server in the farm"
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:25 AM, ken zheng  wrote:
>
>>  Thanks Jeremy, I found the problem is the Timer job runs on one WFE which
>> is dummy one. So if there way I can choose which WFE to run the custom Timer
>> job?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> --
>> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:25:34 +1000
>> From: jeremy.th...@readify.net
>> Subject: RE: Custom Timer Job failed without error
>> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>>
>>
>> If you can run it via job.Execute...I would look at security permissions
>> and what account is being used when the job is run via the timer etc.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> *Jeremy Thake
>> *Readify | Senior Consultant
>>
>>
>>
>> Perth | WA 6005 | Australia
>>
>> M: +61 400 767 022 | E: jeremy.th...@readify.net | W: www.readify.net |
>> B: www.made4the.net
>>   --
>> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of ken zheng [
>> lied...@hotmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 18 May 2009 9:31 AM
>> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>> *Subject:* Custom Timer Job failed without error
>>
>>  Hi Guys:
>>
>>We have a daily cutom timer job but failed. I have checked event log
>> and SharePoint log but can't find any relevant errors. The job can be run
>> with job.Execute(Guid.Empty) without error.
>>
>> The only log I can find is "Failed to determine definition for Feature
>> with ID '367b94a9-4a15-42ba-b4a2-32420363e018'.  Skipping this feature for
>> element querying consideration." but I am not sure if it fails the timer
>> job.
>>
>> Anyone has idea?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
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Re: SharePoint Site [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Bill Williamson]

Do you think the headache is worth it over a "made for CMS" product like
sitecore or matrix?

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Noja, Fadi wrote:

> We're using content deployment.  It's taken me a very long time to pin
> point most of the problems with content deployment.  Mostly of what not
> to do to get it to work.
>
> Security is security is managed with ISA.  We've locked down what people
> can access (like the build in web services, etc).  You will notice
> there's also an enhanced search box.  You can actually search for
> partial keywords now (which doesn't come with SharePoint).
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of
> chris_py_...@manulife.com
> Sent: Thursday, 23 April 2009 4:51 PM
> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> Cc: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> Subject: Re: SharePoint Site [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
> Hi Fadi
>
> It's encouraging to see gov is starting to use sharepoint for their
> website, hopefully i will be able to secure a job when i go back there
> :D
>
> If you don't mind me asking, how are the contents being deployed? are
> they
> directly authored and published on the public facing site or on a
> staging
> server? How do you handle with security on public site?
>
> regards,
>
> Christian
>
>
>
>
>
> "Noja, Fadi"
>
> 
> a.gov.au>
> To
> Sent by:  
>
> ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
> 04/23/2009 02:45  SharePoint Site
> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to
>
> ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey,
>
> Just thought I'd let you guys now we've finally launched the fahcsia
> website (http://www.fahcsia.gov.au).  It's a SharePoint site.   Let me
> know
> what you think.  I personally think it needs to be prettied up a bit
> (more
> pictures, flash/silverlight, etc), but being a government site, we're
> very
> limited.
>
> Fadi
>
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Re: Cannot create or edit views - There is no Web named "Documents/Forms/AllItems.aspx" [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Bill Williamson]

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Ishai Sagi wrote:

>  I resolved by reinstalling the server.
>
> But – now i have a much stranger issue – I added two columns of type lookup
> – one with multiselect and one not, added it to a content type, and assigned
> it to a document library.
>
> I then proceed to upload a document, and selecting values for the columns.
> I save – no errors. I view the properties of the list items – no values in
> the lookup columns (Just in those columns)
>
>
>
> WTF?
>
>
>
> I think the Feb patch ruined my server...
>

I refuse to believe that, because Microsoft has ASSURED us at my workplace
that we should ALWAYS immediately patch, that we are unsupported if we do
not do so, and there is never a reason not to.

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Re: Sharepoint security concern

[Bill Williamson]

If there's only a few users (sounds like it) you have a few options:
-write a forms provider that uses ssl certs for authentication
-set up the publishing half on a different IP/url through ISA
-use ISA to block ALL login/webservice/etc urls for the public one.


On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:22 PM,  wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> Come to think about it you are right. I can see how admin account will
> always be locked out because lots of people will try to hack it. It will
> not be one single admin user only but there will be couple of users as
> contributors, approver and 1 or 2 site admin however the public will browse
> the site annonymously.
>
> May I know why you are asking about this? I'm curious if the solution
> differ from one scenario to another in securing the public facing
> sharepoint site.
>
> Regards,
>
> Christian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Williamson
>   m> To
> Sent by:  ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>  ozmoss@ozmoss.com  cc
>
>   Subject
> 03/30/2009 06:54  Re: Sharepoint security concern
> PM
>
>
> Please respond to
> ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That just depends on your forms auth provider. It's quite easy to do.
>
> If you do this, however, prepare to have your admin account ALWAYS locked
> out.
>
> Do you require members of the external site to be able to log in, or is
> this a "single admin user only" site with the rest of users being guests?
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:17 PM,  wrote:
>  Hi Jeremy
>
>  That is correct if they can find out the admin username and password the
>  damage will be much more significant. Is SSL enough to protect public
>  facing sharepoint site? Is there anyway we can implement something
>  similar
>  to windows AD when user has attempted to login for 3 times the account
>  will
>  be automatically locked out?
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Christian
>
>
>
>
>  Jeremy Thake
>dify.net> To
>  Sent by: "ozmoss@ozmoss.com"
>  ozmoss@ozmoss.com 
>  cc
>
>  03/30/2009 01:46 Subject
>  PM RE: Sharepoint security concern
>
>
>  Please respond to
>  ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  The end users may have access to the web services, but unless their user
>  account has access to update the list item in SharePoint they will not be
>  able to update it.
>
>  "providing they can find out the username and password" -> if they can
>  get
>  the admin username and password, they can do significantly more damage
>  via
>  the web user interface.
>
>  You can lock down the web services using firewall/ISA rules to just
>  simply
>  block them. Just be wary that SharePoint Designer consumes these to talk
>  to
>  SharePoint.
>
>  Cheers,
>  Jeremy
>
>  -Original Message-
>  From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of
>  chris_py_...@manulife.com
>  Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 1:31 PM
>  To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>  Subject: Sharepoint security concern
>
>
>  Hi All,
>
>  I am currently working on a public facing Sharepoint site project and are
>  facing abit of problem in determining the best way to achieve one of the
>  requirement from the client.
>
>  The site will be implementing SSL and form based authentication and the
>  client has no issue over that proposal however they are concerned about
>  web
>  services in Sharepoint as everybody will be able to access the web
>  services
>  and update the list item, providing they can find out the username and
>  password.
>
>  Is there anyway we can lock down the web services, for example only allow
>  one IP to update the list items or is there any better way in doing this
>  type of restriction?
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Chris
>
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Re: Sharepoint security concern

[Bill Williamson]

That just depends on your forms auth provider.  It's quite easy to do.

If you do this, however, prepare to have your admin account ALWAYS locked
out.

Do you require members of the external site to be able to log in, or is this
a "single admin user only" site with the rest of users being guests?

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:17 PM,  wrote:

> Hi Jeremy
>
> That is correct if they can find out the admin username and password the
> damage will be much more significant. Is SSL enough to protect public
> facing sharepoint site? Is there anyway we can implement something similar
> to windows AD when user has attempted to login for 3 times the account will
> be automatically locked out?
>
> Regards,
>
> Christian
>
>
>
>
> Jeremy Thake
>  dify.net>  To
> Sent by:  "ozmoss@ozmoss.com"
> ozmoss@ozmoss.com 
>cc
>
> 03/30/2009 01:46  Subject
> PMRE: Sharepoint security concern
>
>
> Please respond to
> ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The end users may have access to the web services, but unless their user
> account has access to update the list item in SharePoint they will not be
> able to update it.
>
> "providing they can find out the username and password" -> if they can get
> the admin username and password, they can do significantly more damage via
> the web user interface.
>
> You can lock down the web services using firewall/ISA rules to just simply
> block them. Just be wary that SharePoint Designer consumes these to talk to
> SharePoint.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeremy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of
> chris_py_...@manulife.com
> Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 1:31 PM
> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> Subject: Sharepoint security concern
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am currently working on a public facing Sharepoint site project and are
> facing abit of problem in determining the best way to achieve one of the
> requirement from the client.
>
> The site will be implementing SSL and form based authentication and the
> client has no issue over that proposal however they are concerned about web
> services in Sharepoint as everybody will be able to access the web services
> and update the list item, providing they can find out the username and
> password.
>
> Is there anyway we can lock down the web services, for example only allow
> one IP to update the list items or is there any better way in doing this
> type of restriction?
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris
>
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Re: Welcome page - bug or feature

[Bill Williamson]

Most other content management systems use asseting to avoid this problem.
When linking any local pages are replaced INTERNALLY by the asset ID.  Then
if you change the name, location, etc of a page no links actually have to be
updated, as the links are generated on the way "out."

So the process is:
-you link to mysite/a/b.aspx
-you click save, the save process replaces b.aspx with the asset ID
-when your page is rendered the opposite of step 2 happens.

I'm sure this could be done in sharepoint, but it's a shame that it isn't
part of the core CMS functionality.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Daniel Brown <
daniel.br...@internode.on.net> wrote:

>  I can see a benefit of the internal linking of the page, rather than a
> URL. However I have encountered some welcome pages which were out of context
> of a SharePoint Site. Internal Page ID linking would limit this
> functionality.
>
>
>
> Perhaps though, that just means it becomes a radio button (Internal
> Page/External URL), then we could have the best of both worlds J
>
>
>
> -DB
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Noone
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:42 AM
>
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* RE: Welcome page - bug or feature
>
>
>
> OK. The point I’m making is that it shouldn’t be using a URL in the site
> settings. It should be using a page picker drop-down that references by ID.
>
>
>
> Also, if you rename a welcome page and then revisit Site Settings->Welcome
> page you’ll notice that the original page name has been removed from the
> path. So clearly it’s already performing some kind of check.
>
>
>
> Training users to rename the default page at site creation and then have to
> re-associate it as the welcome page is more than an annoyance. It’s just
> plain silly.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel
> Brown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:07 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* RE: Welcome page - bug or feature
>
>
>
> It would be a an extra check on every file rename which occurs. SharePoint
> would have to perform lookup to see if the page being renamed is the welcome
> page so it can update the URL in Site Settings.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Noone
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:28 AM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* RE: Welcome page - bug or feature
>
>
>
> Changing the page’s name should be irrelevant.
>
>
>
> Rather than associate a page as a welcome page using an absolute path, this
> could have been achieved using the page ID which never changes.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel
> Brown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:35 AM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* RE: Welcome page - bug or feature
>
>
>
> Annoying as it is, I can understand why they didn’t do it that way though.
>
>
>
> I personally believe it was partially intentional. As renaming any file
> though SPD (for example), would require a check every time to see if it was
> just a welcome page. A huge and costly overhead when renaming files for
> little return and as a result killing performance.
>
>
>
> -DB
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Noone
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 10 March 2009 10:53 AM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Welcome page - bug or feature
>
>
>
> When renaming a site’s welcome page it is not automatically updated in the
> Welcome Page screen. This means having to make two changes.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know if this is just an annoying oversight that will be
> rectified in future?
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Re: Feb 2009 CTP of Visual Studio 2008 extensions for Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 has been released!

[Bill Williamson]

I think it's something they should do, but technically illegal, so I doubt
you'll see people discussing it here :(

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:50 PM, wrote:

>
> Has anyone tried bamboo solutions free tool to get WSS+MOSS on Vista 32 or
> 64bit + SQLExpress?
>
>
> http://community.bamboosolutions.com/blogs/bambooteamblog/archive/2008/05/21/how-to-install-windows-sharepoint-services-3-0-sp1-on-vista-x64-x86.aspx
>
> I'm tempted to give it a go on my own PC to see if I can live without
> virtualisation, but I'd like to hear from anyone else who's tried this
> first!
>
> mike.stringfel...@sevensigma.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul Noone To
>  d.catholic.edu.au 
> >  cc
> Sent by:
> ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject
>   RE: Feb 2009 CTP of Visual Studio
>   2008 extensions for Windows
>   SharePoint Services 3.0 has been
>   released!
> 25/02/2009 06:34
> AM
>
>
> Please respond to
> ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Note to self: wait for Send/receive to complete before replying to old
> thread. J
>
> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
> Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2009 8:10 AM
> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> Subject: RE: Feb 2009 CTP of Visual Studio 2008 extensions for Windows
> SharePoint Services 3.0 has been released!
>
> So you can develop locally. Or is that still too much to expect? ;)
>
> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Brown
> Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 4:22 PM
> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> Subject: RE: Feb 2009 CTP of Visual Studio 2008 extensions for Windows
> SharePoint Services 3.0 has been released!
>
> Why would you install these on XP when WSS/MOSS is a server application?
>
> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> Williamson
> Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 3:46 PM
> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> Subject: Re: Feb 2009 CTP of Visual Studio 2008 extensions for Windows
> SharePoint Services 3.0 has been released!
>
> Please tell me you can install it on Xp
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Aaron Saikovski <
> aaron.saikov...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
> Not sure if you guys have heard but we have updated and released the Feb
> 2009 CTP of the VS2008 extensions for WSSV3.0.
>
>
> More details can be found here:
>
>
>
> http://www.microsoftcom/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b2c0b628-5cab-48c1-8cae-c34c1ccbdc0a&DisplayLang=en
>
>
> enjoy.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Aaron
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Re: Search crawler ignore view pages

[Bill Williamson]

Arg, I was misinformed about our config scratch that, we DO have
allitems.aspx in an ignore list.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Bill Williamson  wrote:

> Is there a way to get the search crawler to ignore the auto-generated view
> pages put into the /forms part of a document library (specificaly publishing
> library)?
>
> The DEFAULT view pages are ignored (AllItems.aspx, Explorer.aspx, etc) but
> any new views we create are included in search results.  For example, if we
> create (in a list) a view called "archived" and then search for "archived"
> that view page shows up with the URL hi-lited as the search match.
>
> A search for AllItems does NOT result in this, and AllItems is not in any
> exclude list, so we're not sure what they're doing to block it.
>

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Search crawler ignore view pages

[Bill Williamson]

Is there a way to get the search crawler to ignore the auto-generated view
pages put into the /forms part of a document library (specificaly publishing
library)?

The DEFAULT view pages are ignored (AllItems.aspx, Explorer.aspx, etc) but
any new views we create are included in search results.  For example, if we
create (in a list) a view called "archived" and then search for "archived"
that view page shows up with the URL hi-lited as the search match.

A search for AllItems does NOT result in this, and AllItems is not in any
exclude list, so we're not sure what they're doing to block it.

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Re: Site usage stats

[Bill Williamson]

We're installing nintex.  It's not free, but relatively cheap.  The big
benefit for us is the log shipping it does.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Nigel Hertz
wrote:

>  Thanks Tommy, I was actually checking out their website before sending my
> mail  J
>
>
>
> The 3 reports available in the lite version are pretty much all we use,
> except for search terms – but we could work around that I guess.
>
>
>
> Nigel
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Tommy
> Segoro
> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:46 AM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* RE: Site usage stats
>
>
>
> We use Cardio Log Lite which is free and great. We had the same problem of
> not being able to see report other than last 30 days. Sharepoint OOTB
> reporting is very-very basic.
>
>
>
> www.intlock.com
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tommy
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Nigel
> Hertz
> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 February 2009 9:35 AM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Site usage stats
>
>
>
> Hey guys
>
>
>
> Is it at all possible to view site usage stats for anything other than the
> last 30 days? Normally, we export the data from the logs once a month, but
> the one at the end of December never happened, as no-one was at work. Is
> there any way to view this data?
>
>
>
> Nigel
>
>
>
> *Kind regards*
>
> *Nigel Hertz*
>
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Re: Feb 2009 CTP of Visual Studio 2008 extensions for Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 has been released!

[Bill Williamson]

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Daniel Brown  wrote:

>  IMHO, Developers should be developing on the target environment and not a
> Client OS. For myself, I wont develop other than the targeted platform for
> the intended environment.,
>
>
A side nit to pick: How's that work for pocket pc development?
I kid...

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Re: Feb 2009 CTP of Visual Studio 2008 extensions for Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 has been released!

[Bill Williamson]

Point: Why do they give you ASP.NET in visual studio on XP when ASP.NET is a
server application?

>From a VERY basic functionality standpoint you cannot EVER open a project
from codeplex/etc if it's created using these tools unless you are running a
server OS.  How is that reasonable?  The very minimum they should be doing
is providing the project templates as a standalone component...

On top of that, though, it should support remote deploy and debugging.  It
is just plain lazy of MS to not do so.

IDEALY there should be a localhost version of WSS that you can use in XP for
debugging.  Then you deploy to your development integration environment.
Then you deploy to test... etc.


As it is now you have two options:
1. Each and every developer has their own sharepoint instance.  For most
organizations that means a VM, as you are forced into a SOE for your
desktop.  This means a server install, an SQL install, a MOSS install, etc.
For each developer, since templating it is not support currently.

2. You share a dev server and pray no one else is debugging when you need
to...

I'm not sure which is worse, but they're both horrible.

THere is NOTHING "magical" about windows server vs windows client
(xp/vista).  Both have most of the same DLLs.  Vista even has IIS 7.  The
ONLY reason it does not run on XP/Vista is because MS do a check so that
they can make you pay more for licensing.  It would run (and people have
made it do so) easily.  A "localhost only" version (JUST like casini
asp.netserver built into VStudio!) should be built.



On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Daniel Brown wrote:

>  Why would you install these on XP when WSS/MOSS is a server application?
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Williamson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 February 2009 3:46 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Re: Feb 2009 CTP of Visual Studio 2008 extensions for Windows
> SharePoint Services 3.0 has been released!
>
>
>
> Please tell me you can install it on Xp
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Aaron Saikovski <
> aaron.saikov...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> Not sure if you guys have heard but we have updated and released the Feb
> 2009 CTP of the VS2008 extensions for WSSV3.0.
>
> More details can be found here:
>
>
> http://www.microsoftcom/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b2c0b628-5cab-48c1-8cae-c34c1ccbdc0a&DisplayLang=en<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b2c0b628-5cab-48c1-8cae-c34c1ccbdc0a&DisplayLang=en>
>
> enjoy.
>
> Regards,
>
> Aaron
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Re: Feb 2009 CTP of Visual Studio 2008 extensions for Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 has been released!

[Bill Williamson]

Please tell me you can install it on Xp

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Aaron Saikovski <
aaron.saikov...@microsoft.com> wrote:

>  Not sure if you guys have heard but we have updated and released the Feb
> 2009 CTP of the VS2008 extensions for WSSV3.0.
>
> More details can be found here:
>
>
> http://www.microsoftcom/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b2c0b628-5cab-48c1-8cae-c34c1ccbdc0a&DisplayLang=en
>
>
>
> enjoy.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Aaron
>
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Re: RSS Viewer Authentication Error [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Bill Williamson]

This is what we use.

It does NOT allow you to specify the user to be used.
It DOES tell it to use the app pool identity... so whatever user your app
pool is running as will be attempting to hit the proxy.

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Nigel Hertz
wrote:

>  Sorry, meant to include them originally.
>
>
>
> 
>
>   
>
> 
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Noja,
> Fadi
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 February 2009 1:54 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* RE: RSS Viewer Authentication Error [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> We're not using ISA here, we're using mimesweeper, so you can't tell it to
> bypass the proxy.
>
>
>
> Do you happen to have the web.config changes you had to do?
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Nigel
> Hertz
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 February 2009 1:53 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* RE: RSS Viewer Authentication Error [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> We've recently just set this up.
>
>
>
> For us, it was a two-step process.
>
>
>
> 1)Hardcode proxy details in the web.config file
>
> 2)Add the Sharepoint server to the ISA Server settings so that any web
> connections fromthe Sharepoint box do not go through the proxy
>
>
>
> Trying to do only one or the other didn't work.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Noja,
> Fadi
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 February 2009 1:50 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* RE: RSS Viewer Authentication Error [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> How do you hardcode the proxy settings?  Is it in the web.config?  and can
> you put in the username and password to use?
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Williamson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 February 2009 1:49 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Re: RSS Viewer Authentication Error [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Noja, Fadi 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm added a RSS viewer to my page and Im getting the following error:
>
>
>
> *ProtocolError occured trying to complete the request. The server returned
> a status code of : ProxyAuthenticationRequired and the status description is
> : "Proxy Authentication Required"*
>
> * *
>
> I know it's got something to do with the NTLM authentication and the
> double-hope not passing in the credentials.  Has anyone come across this
> before and knows how to fix it?  I'm pretty sure you can put in the
> web.config the proxy settings but not sure how you go around fixing the
> problem so that it passes the users credentials on.
>
>
>
> The only way to fix this is by hardcoding the proxy settings, or writing
> your own web part.  The default rss web part is not written to handle
> impersonation.
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Re: RSS Viewer Authentication Error [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Bill Williamson]

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Noja, Fadi wrote:

>  Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm added a RSS viewer to my page and Im getting the following error:
>
>
>
> *ProtocolError occured trying to complete the request. The server returned
> a status code of : ProxyAuthenticationRequired and the status description is
> : "Proxy Authentication Required"*
>
> * *
>
> I know it's got something to do with the NTLM authentication and the
> double-hope not passing in the credentials.  Has anyone come across this
> before and knows how to fix it?  I'm pretty sure you can put in the
> web.config the proxy settings but not sure how you go around fixing the
> problem so that it passes the users credentials on.
>


The only way to fix this is by hardcoding the proxy settings, or writing
your own web part.  The default rss web part is not written to handle
impersonation.

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Re: Storing documents in a Pages library

[Bill Williamson]

The big problem here is that SharePoint is not a real CMS.  It can act as
one (and can be advised as one due to "same product enterprise wide" but
it's a collaboration tool with a few bits added on to act like a CMS.

This is not meant as an insult to SharePoint, but more meant that trying to
treat SP like Matrix (or any of the multitude of other "from the ground up"
CMSs out there) is a mistake.  SharePoint's model is page centric, and you
can attach supporting elements (documents, more pages, etc) to a page.  It
is not content centric, where each element is a discrete asset which can be
published to a different area of the website.

It requires getting typical website people to rethink a bit.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Uzma Naz  wrote:

>  I don't think it's a good idea to use the pages library as your sole
> library. It would be important to encourage people to see the differences
> between a page and document and how the Intranet/Internet is changing for
> the better.
>
> Would it not be appropriate to use the page library as it's supposed to be
> and create a page view on your main site page? That way people do not
> have to browse two different places, but one which will have views from
> any library you wish on the site.
>
> But heh-ho, if it minimises problems then you *could* give it a try... let
> us know if you do encounter problems down the road.
>
> Uzma
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:54:42 +0900
> > From: michael.stringfel...@bankwest.com.au
> > Subject: RE: Storing documents in a Pages library
> > To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>
> >
> > Fundamentally I'm with you, and your users, on this Ivan - it's just
> > another type of content.
> >
> > Unfortunately I'm an idealist, so in practical terms you probably
> shouldn't
> > do it!
> >
> > The main reason is the law of unintended consequences. Sometime you go
> down
> > a path (especially with SharePoint's complexities) and then hit a show
> > stopper, work around that just to create two more...
> >
> > So, even after a proof of concept, make sure you have a big red RISK item
> > in your plan with the cost of abandoning the approach late in the project
> > life and the possibility of impacting currently unknown requirements.
> >
> > Regards, Mike.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ivan Wilson To
> >  > gurus.net> 
> > Sent by: cc
> > ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> > Subject
> > RE: Storing documents in a Pages
> > library
> >
> > 11/02/2009 09:41
> > AM
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your feedback Paul (Noone and Culmsee)
> >
> > Yes, they consider HTML pages as just another type of reference document.
> I
> > can understand their point of view.
> >
> > I realize that from a SharePoint perspective it sounds odd to use
> non-page
> > content types in the Pages library. However, so far it is working fine.
> It
> > is a proof-of-concept, so now is the time for us to identify issues, but
> so
> > far so good.
> >
> > As Homer says, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger"
> >
> > Ivan
> >
> > From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul
> Noone
> > Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2009 8:47 AM
> > To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> > Subject: RE: Storing documents in a Pages library
> >
> > Are they expecting to treat HTML pages within the site's Pages library as
> > web pages, or as reference docs?
> >
> > What the heck is going to happen to the navigation I wonder? I'm still
> > concerned about the base columns and functionality of a Pages library and
> > what this will mean for document content types which inherit from a
> > different base set.
> >
> > Again, I wish you every success. Please keep us posted with screenshots
> and
> > updates (or me at least!).
> >
> > From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Ivan
> Wilson
> > Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2009 4:32 PM
> > To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> > Subject: RE: Storing documents in a Pages library
> >
> > Hi there Wilson
> >
> > Yes, I do like to live on the edge :)
> >
> > The volume of documents + pages for each section is not excessive. The
> > largest section has a little over 600 entries today. I'm not expecting to
> > have any performance problems.
> >
> > Paul T. – in reply to your post, the client wants their staff to have a
> > similar experience in SharePoint to what they have today for finding
> > content. They currently treat a HTML content page the same as document.
> It
> > will be strange for them to have to browse two different libraries just
> > because one item is a web page and another item is a PDF document.
> >
> > Ivan
> >
> > From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Wampers,
> > Wilson [Talent International]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2009 3:01 PM
> > To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> > Subject: RE: Storing documents in a Pages library
> >
> > Hi Ivan,
> >
> > You daredevil J! Have you considered the volume and size of documents and
> > potential performance hit?
> > I think

Re: Outlook integration and pst files

[Bill Williamson]

Data retention rules.  Welcome to the public service :p

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Paul Noone <
paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au> wrote:

>  Hi Bill,
>
>
>
> Can you not specify a custom location for the user's PST file – like a
> network share - or am I missing something?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
> Online Developer, ICT
> CEO Sydney
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Williamson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 4 February 2009 7:30 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Re: Outlook integration and pst files
>
>
>
> Unfortunately it requires them.  That rules out us using it period as we're
> not allowed local PST files by policy.
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Caroline Specker (AU) <
> caroline.spec...@didata.com.au> wrote:
>
> Has anyone figured out a way to integrate outlook with SharePoint *without
> * enabling pst files on client machines?  I know that Outlook stores items
> downloaded from sharepoint in the pst file, but I am wondering if anybody
> knows of some kind of magical workaround?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Caroline
>
>
>
>
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Re: Outlook integration and pst files

[Bill Williamson]

Unfortunately it requires them.  That rules out us using it period as we're
not allowed local PST files by policy.

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Caroline Specker (AU) <
caroline.spec...@didata.com.au> wrote:

>   Has anyone figured out a way to integrate outlook with SharePoint *
> without* enabling pst files on client machines?  I know that Outlook
> stores items downloaded from sharepoint in the pst file, but I am wondering
> if anybody knows of some kind of magical workaround?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Caroline
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Error Run ASP .NET web application in x64 server

[Bill Williamson]

Are the sharepoint DLLs in the bin directory of the webapp?  If so, delete
them.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:30 AM, ken zheng  wrote:

>  Hi:
>
>I wonder if anyone developed ASP .NET applcation referenceing Sharepoint
> dlls in x64 windows 2003. I created a simple web project in visual studio
> and reference Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing. But when I run the
> applicaiton I got "System.BadImageFormatException: Could not load file or
> assembly 'Microsoft.Office.Server.Search, Version=12.0.0.0". I tried all
> different setting of the Platform Target but still gets error. The IIS is
> version 6, and works fine in console application.
>
>   Anyone has same problem?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
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Re: SSP Restore

[Bill Williamson]

This is EXACTLY what I was going to reply.

The SSP is not really "mysite," despite what doco says.  It simply holds a
REFERENCE to a mysite url, and has the bounce page to auto-create them.

The mysites can be restored perfectly even after rebuilding your SSP from
scratch.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Paul Turner wrote:

>  Each 'My Site' is a seperate site collection and as such can be backed up
> with stsadm independantly.  Create a batch file and run it nightly then you
> can get seperate backups of each 'My Site' and restore then if needed
> without doing a full DB (sql level backup/restore).
>
> See here for a demo:
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointgeneral/thread/73759029-c256-4797-a716-33f7a61fdbdb/
>
> Regards
> *Paul Turner
> **Senior Solution Specialist**
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> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone [
> paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 29 January 2009 8:01 AM
>
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* RE: SSP Restore
>
>   Hi Simon,
>
>
>
> I would say that anyone using MySites extensively would agree.
>
>
>
> What was the solution? Simply building a new web app and pointing it to the
> restored DB?
>
>
>
> It would be great if you could outline this broadly for the rest of us, or
> just me if you like, so I can add it to our DR plan. J
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
> Online Developer, ICT
> CEO Sydney
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Simon
> Ashworth
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 January 2009 4:13 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* RE: SSP Restore
>
>
>
>
>
> We actually spent hours with Microsoft support with this one and
> successfully managed to restore the SSP back to its former glory BUT not
> without a great amount of work. I was attempting to use the same web
> application to run the SSP which didn't quite work, so a new app had to be
> created. The upshot is that everything in central admin works, all SSP tasks
> (indexing, searches, AD imports & audiences) are restored as well as all
> previous 'My Site' creations. I guess it may have been quicker & easier to
> rebuild the SSP from scratch, but losing My Sites wasn't an option for us!
>
>
>
>
>
> *Simon Ashworth*
> Senior Developer
>
> *Vivid* *Group*
>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Noone
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 January 2009 6:51 AM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* RE: SSP Restore
>
>
>
> Well that's good to know. It's a pity there white paper (page 47) on data
> protection and recovery doesn't provide the same advice.
>
>
>
> Small wonder I've been having issues.
>
>
>
> 8ß---
> Considerations when restoring an index server
>
> To restore an index server, in Step 3, "Restore the Web application," you
> must restore the SSP associated with the index.
>
>
>
> *Restore an SSP*
>
> 1.
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> style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"; color:black'>Open Central
> Administration, and on the *Operations* tab, in the *Backup and 
> Restore*section, select
> *Restore from Backup*.
>
> 2.On the Step 1: Select Backup Location page, under *Backup File
> Location*, specify the path to the backup folder.
>
> 3.On the Step 2: Select Backup to Restore page, select the most recent
> backup package to restore, and then click *Continue Restore Process*.
>
> 4.On the Step 3: Select Component to Restore page, select the SSP to
> restore and then click *Continue Restore Process*.
>
> 5.On the Step 4: Select Restore Options page, click *Same
> Configuration*, and then click *OK*. Click *OK* again in the *Warning*dialog 
> box.
>
> 6.The *Backup and Restore Status* page appears. This page is refreshed
> every 30 seconds. The recovery can take a few minutes to start.
>
> *Note*: If either the content index or search database recovery process is
> not successful

Re: SSP Restore

[Bill Williamson]

We've never had SSP restores work.  MS advised us that recreation of the SSP
from configuration documenation is the supported methodology.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Simon Ashworth wrote:

>  Hey Guys,
>
>
>
> I'm currently performing a migration of an SQL server including all MOSS
> 2007 config and content databases.  I've used a technet article
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc512725.aspx that states a
> process to use for the migration but have fallen foul at the final stage –
> restoring the original SSP.  The high level process I have followed (as per
> the article) is:
>
>
>
> · Perform an SSP backup via Central Admin
>
> · Used STSADM to remove SSP from the farm
>
> · Stopped farm services
>
> · Performed SQL backups of all content and configuration dbs
>
> · Restored database (via SQL) to new server
>
> · Recreated SQL users & permissions
>
> · Used STSADM renameserver command specifying new SQL server
>
> · Restarted Central admin server
>
> · Restore SSP via Central Admin
>
>
>
> I can access the Central Admin site and also browse to the web apps and can
> confirm that these are running off the new SQL server, all good here, but
> the final step (the SSP restore) appears to hang stating that the SSP is 30
> percent complete but goes no further.  I left the job running overnight but
> I believe the timer service cancelled it after running for 9 hours.  I've
> since attempt the restore numerous times with different accounts  (just in
> case the issue was permissions based) still with no luck.  I've checked the
> SharePoint logs, event logs and SQL logs but can't see anything pointing
> towards a resolution.  Can anyone offer some advice?
>
>
>
> For information the SQL servers in question are at the same version/SP
> level (SQL 2005 SP2).
>
>
>
> Simon Ashworth
>
>
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Re: SPContext.Current.Web.CurrentUser.Groups not working for AD Containers

[Bill Williamson]

"welcome to sharepoint"

Depending on the wind direction, all groups in AD is the "best practice",
even though it makes auditing impossible and breaks many parts of the
sharepoint API (see the earlier threads about permission denied problems).

The organization I belong to has brought it up with MS (it breaks our *MAIN*
navigation web part!) and the reaction is basically "quirk, not a bug" and
"why would you need to audit this from sharepoint?"  etc.

If you want to do this, you will have to write a tool which recurses through
AD _manually_, checking every AD group a user belongs to against every SP
group (good luck if you have a complex hierarchy).

Sorry for the somewhat pointed response, and hopefully someone else will
have a "duh, just do this!" solution, but we've been struggling with this
since release without any respite.


On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Diego Costamagna <
diego.costama...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Hi guys,
>
> I'm working on a web part that for certain functionality it requires to
> analize all permission levels on all SP groups the user belongs.
> All users are AD users and some AD Groups could be found.
>
> I used *SPContext.Current.Web.CurrentUser.Groups*, but I noticed that when
> the current user permissions come from an AD Group that is included in a SP
> Group, that line of code doesn't add that particular SP Group into the
> returned collection.
>
> AD User --> AD Group --> SP Group --grants access to--> Site XaX (SP Group
> contains AD Group)
>
> The AD User has access to the site XaX, but *
> SPContext.Current.Web.CurrentUser.Groups* is not recognizing the SP Group.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in Advance !
>
> Diego Costamagna
>
>
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Re: Tool to update hardcoded links?

[Bill Williamson]

But shouldn't.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Mitch Denny wrote:

>  You might be able to do it in the database...
>
>
>
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> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Nemtsev
> *Sent:* Thursday, 18 December 2008 8:14 PM
>
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* RE: Tool to update hardcoded links?
>
>
>
> Idea with HTTP redirection is good, but guys don't want any temporary
> solution they want to have proper links and want to do change with tool, to
> have a 100% consistency that they missed nothing.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Michael Nemtsev  *|* *MOSS MCTS, MS MVP
> Readify
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>
>
>
> *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Witherdin,
> Nigel
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:08 PM
> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* RE: Tool to update hardcoded links?
>
>
>
> Not a tool to do this per se, but we use a HTTP Redirection module to
> redirect the old links to the new ones, and then *encourage* the content
> maintainers to fix these links up as soon as they can.  Remember, links
> exist in a lot more places then just the page content - word documents,
> emails, flash training courses, users favourites, etc. etc.
>
>
>
> Of course, this means someone has to maintain the redirection mappings.
>
>
>
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> *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> *Subject:* Tool to update hardcoded links?
>
> Are there any commercial/free tools which allows to update hardcoded links
> on pages/webparts?!
>
> Usually you have such links after migration, which are refers to old site.
>
> Any way to automate hardcoded links ?
>
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Re: Last Insert ID

[Bill Williamson]

I'm assuming you're calling Lists.UpdateListItems from Lists.asmx?  If so,
it's in the return value (which is a string'd xml blob).

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Haris Siakallis  wrote:

>  Hello,
>
>
>
> I am programmatically adding new rows to a SharePoint list, I was wondering
> if it is possible to retrieve the ID of the newly inserted row. Similar to
> what DBMS offer i.e. LAST_INSERT_ID. I am  using the sharepoint List
> Service. If it is possible can someone please provide an example or point me
> to the right direction.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Haris Siakallis
>
>
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Re: Web service authenication error - Lists.asmx

[Bill Williamson]

We've had specific problems where certain parts of the API refuse to go more
than 2 levels deep with nested groups.  The person has access to the site
through IE, but the API says they don't!  Since the web services are using
the API but not through IE directly (there shouldn't be a difference,
but...) it could be a lead.

For anyone who care's reference:
Our code that fails on deeply nested groups (it shows *NO* permissions
checked, despite the user being able to get into the site via IE!) is:
--
SPSecurity.RunWithElevatedPrivileges(delegate() //We want to find all sites,
even ones the user may not have access to
{
  using (SPSite site = new SPSite(tbSite.Text)) //Need to site while running
with elevated privs
  {
using (SPWeb web = site.OpenWeb())
{
  foreach (SPBasePermissions permission in
Enum.GetValues(typeof(SPBasePermissions)))
  {
clbPermissions.Items.Add(permission.ToString(),
web.DoesUserHavePermissions(tbUser.Text, permission));
  }
}
  }
});
--
clbPermissions is simply a checkbox array.  This is running ON the server as
a simple winforms app.  There is no possible way
"web.DoesUserHavePermissions" should fail
Obviously there's a SharePoint bug here, as it works on people with shallow
group structure, but not deep group structure.  Again, may not be related,
but MAY...

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Paul Noone <
paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> It's certainly not the cleanest structure going. There's a couple of high
level groups that mixed sub groups and users are in. But the profile
connections string starts at the domain level so all are incorporated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
> Online Developer, ICT
> CEO Sydney
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Williamson
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2008 5:54 PM
> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> Subject: Re: Web service authenication error - Lists.asmx
>
> A farout guess from issue's we're having:
> -Are affected users in a deeply nested AD group (eg group "A" was
> added to sharepoint, the users are in group D which is a member of
> group C which is a member of group B which is a member of group A)?
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Paul Noone
>  wrote:
>> Just to correct a bum steer from my earlier email.
>>
>> If I log into my box as an affected user, the problem exists. But if I
log
>> into an affected users PC as myself, it does not. Hence my conclusion
that
>> something within the user's profile is to blame.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Noone
>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2008 10:31 AM
>> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
>> Subject: RE: Web service authenication error - Lists.asmx
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not calling the service in any way. This is just a straight
SharePoint
>> process when a user clicks a file in a document library to open it.
>>
>>
>>
>> The path is always virtual and uses the root of the site at it's at, as
per
>> other system files.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can absolutely confirm that all users have access to the site and the
>> library, they're browsing it after all, and are also able to open, edit
and
>> upload the file successfully simply by hitting cancel.
>>
>>
>>
>> This problem is just getting the server-side look-up data to certain
fields
>> in the document information panel. In the case of clicking cancel, the
>> document opens and the panel displays but the affected fields are greyed
>> out. And instead of displaying the name value it displays the item ID.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a standard library with a couple of custom columns and content
types
>> with no event receivers attached.
>>
>>
>>
>> I, for one, am 100% certain that absolutely nothing I have done either
>> through CA or at a site collection level via the GUI could cause this
>> behaviour for only some users.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm still wondering if AD is coming into play somewhere. Whatever the
cause
>> it seems it may exist within the user's Windows profile store.
>>
>>
>>
>> Someone has done something but no one is claiming responsibility. Usual
>> scenario.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Online Developer, ICT
>> CEO Sydney
>>
>> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Matthew
>> Cosier
>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2008 9:34 AM
>> To: ozmoss@o

Re: Web service authenication error - Lists.asmx

[Bill Williamson]

A farout guess from issue's we're having:
-Are affected users in a deeply nested AD group (eg group "A" was
added to sharepoint, the users are in group D which is a member of
group C which is a member of group B which is a member of group A)?

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Paul Noone
 wrote:
> Just to correct a bum steer from my earlier email.
>
> If I log into my box as an affected user, the problem exists. But if I log
> into an affected users PC as myself, it does not. Hence my conclusion that
> something within the user's profile is to blame.
>
>
>
> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2008 10:31 AM
> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> Subject: RE: Web service authenication error - Lists.asmx
>
>
>
> Hi Matt,
>
>
>
> I'm not calling the service in any way. This is just a straight SharePoint
> process when a user clicks a file in a document library to open it.
>
>
>
> The path is always virtual and uses the root of the site at it's at, as per
> other system files.
>
>
>
> I can absolutely confirm that all users have access to the site and the
> library, they're browsing it after all, and are also able to open, edit and
> upload the file successfully simply by hitting cancel.
>
>
>
> This problem is just getting the server-side look-up data to certain fields
> in the document information panel. In the case of clicking cancel, the
> document opens and the panel displays but the affected fields are greyed
> out. And instead of displaying the name value it displays the item ID.
>
>
>
> This is a standard library with a couple of custom columns and content types
> with no event receivers attached.
>
>
>
> I, for one, am 100% certain that absolutely nothing I have done either
> through CA or at a site collection level via the GUI could cause this
> behaviour for only some users.
>
>
>
> I'm still wondering if AD is coming into play somewhere. Whatever the cause
> it seems it may exist within the user's Windows profile store.
>
>
>
> Someone has done something but no one is claiming responsibility. Usual
> scenario.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
> Online Developer, ICT
> CEO Sydney
>
> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Matthew
> Cosier
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2008 9:34 AM
> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> Subject: Re: Web service authenication error - Lists.asmx
>
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
>
>
> Like I said, double hop isn't relevant here as you've indicated it's only
> happening with some client machines.  If it was a double hop issue, it would
> be consistently failing across the board.
>
>
>
> If you suspect it to be an issue with office, have you considered
> downloading web service studio and executing the request through that tool
> instead of the office client?  If you get the same issue, you can be assured
> that it's not an office client issue.
>
>
>
> I'd doubt it was the load balancer, but maybe?
>
> Can you also let me know what URL you are using for the lists.asmx web
> service, are you using http://server/site/_vti_bin/lists.asmx or are you
> using http://server/site/antohersite/_vti_bin/lists.asmx ?
>
>
>
> If the latter, can you confirm the user has access to that site/url?  Can
> you hit in in a browser on the failing machine?  I'd try web service studio
> to try call the service and see if you can get it working through there
> first.
>
>
>
> M
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Paul Noone
>  wrote:
>
> Hi Matt,
>
>
>
> If this was affecting everyone across the board I'd agree there was a
> possible double-hop issue at stake. But it is only affecting about half the
> users who share exactly the same credentials as others.
>
>
>
> You may recall one of our front-end servers went down and I had to restore
> it a couple of weeks back.
>
>
>
> Is it possible that load balancing is causing this and that the path to
> lists.asmx on one server has permission problems somewhere along the line?
> Could it be that this file gets consistently served to the same people?
>
>
>
> I'm just clutching at straws now.
>
>
>
> I've completed some local testing with Fiddler by logging in to SharePoint
> via the browser as various users who are experiencing the issue. And I can
> confirm that the problem can't be replicated this way.
>
>
>
> Similarly, if I log into Windows as someone else, the problem cannot be
> replicated. But if I log into an affected users PC, the error returns.
>
>
>
> This confirms for me that it's a local machine issue and is starting to
> smell very much like Office 2007 patch gone wrong. I recall finding a thread
> about this some time ago on a related matter and apparently running an
> Office Repair or resinatlling was the solution.
>
>
>
> Will have a go and let you know.
>
>
>
> From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Matthew
> Cosier
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 December 2008 4:41 PM
> To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
> Subject: Re: Web service authenication error - Lists.asmx
>
>
>
> I've been unf