Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.43.1 - objects not loaded

2012-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

The recent files are stored in ~/.config/pd-extended.  I suppose all the
config files should go there.

.hc

On 10/08/2012 05:11 PM, athos bacchiocchi wrote:
> I tried installing the nightly build (finally I know again where they are!
> :) the link at the bottom of the download page appears to be broken), but
> it still won't load mux~, even though zexy is reported as loaded. I must
> however report some other glitches which might be (or not) related to this.
> When i first opened pd-extended after installing the nightly build, it
> couldn't even load objects like [cputime] and [dsp] ! I had to quit and
> relaunch the program to make them work.
> 
> I also noticed that no matter if I uninstall pd-extended using purge, wipe
> out pd-externals directory and delete .pdextended, after a new install I
> still get a populated recent files list, so this makes me think that
> there's something remaining from previous installation: is it normal? does
> it matter at all?
> 
> As for ezdac, I guess I can live without :)
> 
> thank you all,
> athos
> 
> PS: I must say I like 0.43 with all its new features, but I am not trusting
> it for gigs and live performances right now, so I guess I will just try to
> build 0.42 for these purposes and use 0.43 for experimentation. If I
> succeed I will post it here :)
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.43.1 - objects not loaded

2012-10-08 Thread athos bacchiocchi
I tried installing the nightly build (finally I know again where they are!
:) the link at the bottom of the download page appears to be broken), but
it still won't load mux~, even though zexy is reported as loaded. I must
however report some other glitches which might be (or not) related to this.
When i first opened pd-extended after installing the nightly build, it
couldn't even load objects like [cputime] and [dsp] ! I had to quit and
relaunch the program to make them work.

I also noticed that no matter if I uninstall pd-extended using purge, wipe
out pd-externals directory and delete .pdextended, after a new install I
still get a populated recent files list, so this makes me think that
there's something remaining from previous installation: is it normal? does
it matter at all?

As for ezdac, I guess I can live without :)

thank you all,
athos

PS: I must say I like 0.43 with all its new features, but I am not trusting
it for gigs and live performances right now, so I guess I will just try to
build 0.42 for these purposes and use 0.43 for experimentation. If I
succeed I will post it here :)
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[PD] Strange bug with cup and moses

2012-10-08 Thread Rick T
Greetings All

I'm running into a strange bug with cup and moses.  I've tried it with
ubuntu 12.04 64bit linux  version .43.3 puredata.  And with 10.04 64bit
ubuntu linux .42.5

I've posted a youtube video along with the code to see if anybody knows how
to fix this or know of a work around.

Link to youtube video that shows the strange behaviour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlxj-MOR0c

Link to code
http://pastebin.com/pY1Xp0rR

Thanks
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Re: [PD] PD- dynamic patching - how to keep track of object creation number?

2012-10-08 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 10/08/2012 07:30 PM, adr...@gmail.com wrote:
> I know the command for creating an object, but I didn't know there's a
> command to destroy one. Which one is it?

if you load iemgut's [canvasdelete], you get a "delete" message that you
can send to the canvas to delete a specific objects.
e.g.

[obj 100 100 f, delete 0(
|
[s pd-$0-dynpatch]

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Re: [PD] compiling external in linux

2012-10-08 Thread J Oliver
This is a great solution!

J


On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

> Looks like you are using a very old Makefile. I highly recommend using
> the Library Template.  Its well tested, easy to use, very
> cross-platform, and even decently documented:
> 
> https://puredata.info/docs/developer/LibraryTemplate/
> 
> Its also very easy to then turn that library into a Debian or Gentoo
> package.  And coming soon: RPMs.
> 
> .hc
> 
> On 10/04/2012 01:41 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
>> dear all,
>> 
>> I am trying to compile a pd external in ubuntu 12.04 and get:
>> 
>> joliver@crystal:~/watercolor/tracks$ make tracks.pd_linux
>> cc -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wshadow
>> -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch
>> -I../../src -o tracks.o -c tracks.c
>> ld -shared -o tracks.pd_linux tracks.o -lc -lm
>> ld: tracks.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `.rodata.str1.8' can not
>> be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
>> tracks.o: could not read symbols: Bad value
>> make: *** [tracks.pd_linux] Error 1
>> 
>> I have the following in my makefile (with -fPIC and all...):
>> 
>> # --- LINUX i386 ---
>> 
>> .SUFFIXES: .pd_linux
>> 
>> LINUXCFLAGS =  -DPD  -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer \
>>-Wall -W -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror \
>>-Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -fPIC
>> 
>> LINUXINCLUDE =  -I../../src
>> 
>> .c.pd_linux:
>>  cc $(LINUXCFLAGS) $(LINUXINCLUDE) -o $*.o -c $*.c
>>  ld  -export_dynamic -shared -o $*.pd_linux $*.o -lc -lm
>>  strip --strip-unneeded $*.pd_linux
>>  rm $*.o
>> 
>> What could I be missing?
>> 
>> best,
>> 
>> J
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Re: [PD] PD- dynamic patching - how to keep track of object creation number?

2012-10-08 Thread adrcki
I know the command for creating an object, but I didn't know there's a command 
to destroy one. Which one is it?

Sent from my iPad

On 8 Οκτ 2012, at 14:40, "Scott R. Looney"  wrote:

> yes i've been looking at your stuff -  that plus iemguts. the only issue with 
> whatever solution i have to provide is that i want to run it with libpd and 
> potentially sell the results on the App Store, so licenses have to be MIT or 
> BSD and not GPL. all of this because i'm considering the complexities 
> involved in putting together a dynamic game audio engine in PD, and sending 
> messages to it from either a separately programmed GUI or an engine like 
> Unity. i'm still in the preliminaries of just thinking about ramifications 
> and it's just getting more and more complex as i think about it.
> 
> as for other responses, i think keeping track of it externally  (i'd be 
> inclined to do this with Javascript and not C) is a good idea. since commands 
> to create and destroy objects come from outside i should be able to keep 
> track of their creation order. everything is still early days, both in terms 
> of my basic understanding of PD and my understanding of the most efficient 
> way to deal with it.
> 
> scott
> 
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Thomas Grill  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> >
>> > I'd get into writing a helper object to keep track of things - written in 
>> > C - because this does make the process of dynamic patching a lot easier. 
>> > You can encode object types and connections in such an object I guess -  
>> > this is a bit like writing an object that makes a map of Pd patches, and 
>> > you could encode the connections as well. Perhaps iemguts does this 
>> > although I don't know it that well. (it's the patch itself we're trying to 
>> > query after all - what objects, in what order, and how are they connected, 
>> > and in what order).
>> >
>> 
>> i guess this is also just what dyn~ 
>> (http://puredata.info/Members/thomas/dynext) tries to do.
>> gr~~~
> 
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Re: [PD] Audio Preferences device list usability

2012-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Using Pd-extended 0.43.3-20120930 on my Mac OS X 10.6.8 install, I see the 
whole string:
<>

.hc


On Oct 5, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Jamie Bullock wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone know where the device names that populate the Audio Settings 
> preferences panel come from?
> 
> For example on my Mac, I'm getting things like:
> 
>   (0)Built-in Microph
> 
> What does "(0)" mean? Not the zero'th device, because for Output devices, 
> both outputs are prefixed with "(0)".
> 
> Why is "Microphone" truncated to "Microph"?
> 
> Are these names coming from Portaudio? Or is Pd additionally mangling the 
> names?
> 
> best,
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.43.1 - objects not loaded

2012-10-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2012-10-08 17:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
> [ezdac~] is part of rradical, which was removed because it had no
> maintainer and had bugs.  Try [output~].  I don't know mux~,
> perhaps it was also in a library that was removed because of being
> semi-broken and unmaintained.
> 
[mux~] is part of zexy.

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Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.43.1 - objects not loaded

2012-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

[ezdac~] is part of rradical, which was removed because it had no maintainer 
and had bugs.  Try [output~].  I don't know mux~, perhaps it was also in a 
library that was removed because of being semi-broken and unmaintained.

If you really want ezdac~ you can copy the 'rradical' folder from 0.42.5 into 
your user folder and load it using [import rradical]
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files

As for 0.42.5 for Ubuntu/precise, its just a matter of someone getting the 
whole thing to build on precise.

.hc

On Oct 8, 2012, at 4:51 AM, athos bacchiocchi wrote:

> hi, I installed pd-extended 0.43.1 on my ubuntu 12.04 machine. I'm 
> experiencing a strange behaviour: at some point it started failing at loading 
> some pd-extended objects like mux~ or ezdac~. In the log I see  that all 
> libraries are loaded correctly. I tried to purge the package installed with 
> dpkg and install the one from the ubuntu repository indicated on 
> puredata.info, with same result.
> 
> I thought to try with 0.42 but as far I understood there's no "easy" way to 
> install it on ubuntu precise. Did anyone experience the same behaviour? Maybe 
> purging pd-extended using apt-get doesn't remove everything and there's still 
> some thing left that won't let the issue be solved reinstalling it? 
> 
> thanks,
> athos   
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Re: [PD] Translating Puckette Lectures into Spanish

2012-10-08 Thread Epic Jefferson
I might be able to help. Hablamos pronto.

On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 2:39 PM, J Oliver  wrote:

> Indeed!
>
> Not all details are solved yet, but we can work in parallel or document
> the process for replication.
>
> J
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>
> Hi, I assume you'll create some subtitles file formats or something, right?
>
> If so, I'd like to help and to the same work on the portuguese version
> after that.
>
> We can post them on youtube as well
>
> cheers
>
>
>> We would like to publish them on december, so the translation work should
>> be done in mid-novemeber.
>>
>> join?
>>
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Re: [PD] PD- dynamic patching - how to keep track of object creation number?

2012-10-08 Thread Scott R. Looney
yes i've been looking at your stuff -  that plus iemguts. the only issue
with whatever solution i have to provide is that i want to run it with
libpd and potentially sell the results on the App Store, so licenses have
to be MIT or BSD and not GPL. all of this because i'm considering the
complexities involved in putting together a dynamic game audio engine in
PD, and sending messages to it from either a separately programmed GUI or
an engine like Unity. i'm still in the preliminaries of just thinking about
ramifications and it's just getting more and more complex as i think about
it.

as for other responses, i think keeping track of it externally  (i'd be
inclined to do this with Javascript and not C) is a good idea. since
commands to create and destroy objects come from outside i should be able
to keep track of their creation order. everything is still early days, both
in terms of my basic understanding of PD and my understanding of the most
efficient way to deal with it.

scott

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Thomas Grill  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> >
> > I'd get into writing a helper object to keep track of things - written
> in C - because this does make the process of dynamic patching a lot easier.
> You can encode object types and connections in such an object I guess -
>  this is a bit like writing an object that makes a map of Pd patches, and
> you could encode the connections as well. Perhaps iemguts does this
> although I don't know it that well. (it's the patch itself we're trying to
> query after all - what objects, in what order, and how are they connected,
> and in what order).
> >
>
> i guess this is also just what dyn~ (
> http://puredata.info/Members/thomas/dynext) tries to do.
> gr~~~
>
>
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Re: [PD] PD- dynamic patching - how to keep track of object creation number?

2012-10-08 Thread Thomas Grill
Hi,

> 
> I'd get into writing a helper object to keep track of things - written in C - 
> because this does make the process of dynamic patching a lot easier. You can 
> encode object types and connections in such an object I guess -  this is a 
> bit like writing an object that makes a map of Pd patches, and you could 
> encode the connections as well. Perhaps iemguts does this although I don't 
> know it that well. (it's the patch itself we're trying to query after all - 
> what objects, in what order, and how are they connected, and in what order).
> 

i guess this is also just what dyn~ 
(http://puredata.info/Members/thomas/dynext) tries to do.
gr~~~


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Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.43.1 - objects not loaded

2012-10-08 Thread Ed Kelly
Hi Athos,


> hi, I installed pd-extended 0.43.1 on my ubuntu 12.04 machine. I'm 
> experiencing
> a strange behaviour: at some point it started failing at loading some 
> pd-extended objects like mux~ or ezdac~. In the log I see  that all libraries 
> are loaded correctly. I tried to purge the package installed with dpkg and 
> install the one from the ubuntu repository indicated on puredata.info, with 
> same result.


The download page has an older version. There have been a few glitches in the 
normal pd-extended generation process in this (0.43) version, and it's a major 
rewrite, so it's taking longer than usual.
However, there is a newer version of the package available at 
http://blinky.at.or.at:/auto-build/2012-10-07/
I suggest you try this - it may fix things.
Ed

>
>I thought to try with 0.42 but as far I understood there's no "easy" way to 
>install it on ubuntu precise. Did anyone experience the same behaviour? Maybe 
>purging pd-extended using apt-get doesn't remove everything and there's still 
>some thing left that won't let the issue be solved reinstalling it? 
>
>thanks,
>athos                                                   
>
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