Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I agree it should be fixed:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revision&revision=16986

Looks for fresh builds on launchpad in about 5-6 hours:
https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/+packages

.hc

On 01/24/2013 12:09 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>> 
>> From: András Murányi 
>> To: Ed Kelly  
>> Cc: "pd-list@iem.at"  
>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last 
>> chance to report your bugs
>>
>>
>> You shall be able to choose tcl 8.5 with:
>> sudo update-alternatives --config wish
>>
>> Then, did this error prevent Pd from loading? Afaicr, plugins' errors shall 
>> not block Pd.
> 
> 
> Right, but the question is whether Pd-extended should go ahead and require 
> tcl/tk 8.5.
> The ttk requirement of search-plugin.tcl-- which loads by default in the next 
> Pd-extended--
> is one reason.  Avoiding two messages in each "Fonts are ugly/weird/broken" 
> thread is
> another:
> 
> User-to-entire-mailinglist: Font problem x y z...
> Answer-back-to-entire-mailinglist: Are you using tcl/tk 8.5?
> User-to-entire-mailinglist: Yes so what next / No but now I am thanx
> 
> 
> Much less likely with tcl/tk 8.5 requirement:
> User-to-entire-mailinglist: In 2006 I set up my Pd box and stepped out for a 
> bit
> 
> to go to medical school. Now I updated Pd and suddenly there's this error.
> 
> What happened?
> 
> 
> -Jonathan
> 
> 
>>
>> András
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Ed Kelly  wrote:
>>
>> Don't know if this has been mentioned before...
>>>
>>> On Ubuntu Lucid (10.04LTS) Pd-extended-0.43 deb from the launchpad.net 
>>> repository.
>>> Pd won't start properly in that it complains that it need Tcl/Tk8.5.
>>> Tcl/Tk8.5 is installed, but so is Tcl/Tk8.4. 
>>>
>>> (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: version conflict for package "Tk": have 8.4, need 8.5
>>>
>>> while executing
>>> "package require Tk 8.5"
>>> ("uplevel" body line 10)
>>> invoked from within
>>> "uplevel #0 $tclcode"FAILED TO LOAD 
>>> /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/search-plugin/search-plugin.tcl
>>>
>>> So I tried changing the symlinks in /usr/lib to point to 8.5. This
>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2013-01-24 09:45 libtk.a -> libtk8.5.a
>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2013-01-24 09:45 libtk.so -> libtk8.5.so
>>>
>>> Still no good.
>>> Could Pd-extended be made to force the use of the 8.5 libs?
>>>
>>> Ed
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Jonathan Wilkes]

>
> From: András Murányi 
>To: Ed Kelly  
>Cc: "pd-list@iem.at"  
>Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last 
>chance to report your bugs
> 
>
>You shall be able to choose tcl 8.5 with:
>sudo update-alternatives --config wish
>
>Then, did this error prevent Pd from loading? Afaicr, plugins' errors shall 
>not block Pd.


Right, but the question is whether Pd-extended should go ahead and require 
tcl/tk 8.5.
The ttk requirement of search-plugin.tcl-- which loads by default in the next 
Pd-extended--
is one reason.  Avoiding two messages in each "Fonts are ugly/weird/broken" 
thread is
another:

User-to-entire-mailinglist: Font problem x y z...
Answer-back-to-entire-mailinglist: Are you using tcl/tk 8.5?
User-to-entire-mailinglist: Yes so what next / No but now I am thanx


Much less likely with tcl/tk 8.5 requirement:
User-to-entire-mailinglist: In 2006 I set up my Pd box and stepped out for a bit

to go to medical school. Now I updated Pd and suddenly there's this error.

What happened?


-Jonathan


>
>András
>
>
>
>On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Ed Kelly  wrote:
>
>Don't know if this has been mentioned before...
>>
>>On Ubuntu Lucid (10.04LTS) Pd-extended-0.43 deb from the launchpad.net 
>>repository.
>>Pd won't start properly in that it complains that it need Tcl/Tk8.5.
>>Tcl/Tk8.5 is installed, but so is Tcl/Tk8.4. 
>>
>>(Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: version conflict for package "Tk": have 8.4, need 8.5
>>
>>    while executing
>>"package require Tk 8.5"
>>    ("uplevel" body line 10)
>>    invoked from within
>>"uplevel #0 $tclcode"FAILED TO LOAD 
>>/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/search-plugin/search-plugin.tcl
>>
>>So I tried changing the symlinks in /usr/lib to point to 8.5. This
>>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2013-01-24 09:45 libtk.a -> libtk8.5.a
>>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2013-01-24 09:45 libtk.so -> libtk8.5.so
>>
>>Still no good.
>>Could Pd-extended be made to force the use of the 8.5 libs?
>>
>>Ed
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[András Murányi]

You shall be able to choose tcl 8.5 with:
sudo update-alternatives --config wish

Then, did this error prevent Pd from loading? Afaicr, plugins' errors shall
not block Pd.

András


On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Ed Kelly  wrote:

> Don't know if this has been mentioned before...
>
> On Ubuntu Lucid (10.04LTS) Pd-extended-0.43 deb from the 
> launchpad.netrepository.
> Pd won't start properly in that it complains that it need Tcl/Tk8.5.
> Tcl/Tk8.5 is installed, but so is Tcl/Tk8.4.
>
> (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: version conflict for package "Tk": have 8.4, need
> 8.5
>
> while executing
> "package require Tk 8.5"
> ("uplevel" body line 10)
> invoked from within
> "uplevel #0 $tclcode"FAILED TO LOAD
> /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/search-plugin/search-plugin.tcl
>
> So I tried changing the symlinks in /usr/lib to point to 8.5. This
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2013-01-24 09:45 libtk.a -> libtk8.5.a
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2013-01-24 09:45 libtk.so -> libtk8.5.so
>
> Still no good.
> Could Pd-extended be made to force the use of the 8.5 libs?
>
> Ed
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Ed Kelly]

Don't know if this has been mentioned before...

On Ubuntu Lucid (10.04LTS) Pd-extended-0.43 deb from the launchpad.net 
repository.
Pd won't start properly in that it complains that it need Tcl/Tk8.5.
Tcl/Tk8.5 is installed, but so is Tcl/Tk8.4. 

(Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: version conflict for package "Tk": have 8.4, need 8.5

    while executing
"package require Tk 8.5"
    ("uplevel" body line 10)
    invoked from within
"uplevel #0 $tclcode"FAILED TO LOAD 
/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/search-plugin/search-plugin.tcl

So I tried changing the symlinks in /usr/lib to point to 8.5. This
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2013-01-24 09:45 libtk.a -> libtk8.5.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2013-01-24 09:45 libtk.so -> libtk8.5.so

Still no good.
Could Pd-extended be made to force the use of the 8.5 libs?

Ed

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On 01/23/2013 07:31 AM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
> 
> On 23/01/2013 13:22, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
>>
>> On 23/01/2013 13:02, Patrice Colet wrote:
 On 01/07/2013 07:51 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
> hello, I'd like to report again a problem that is still not resolved in
> this release...
>
> On win32, I've got many pd patches that makes the GUI not working with
> mouse binding,
> I can not move any object on the patch, only the arrows can make it move
> when it's selected.
>
> It's still hard to tell where does it come from without passing hours
> opening, modifying,
> closing, and opening again patches that makes pd GUI doing this, maybe
> one day...
 Yeah, that's a tough one.  Is this something that you have reported before,
 like in a bug report in the tracker?  Do you get any error messages when it
 happens?

 I've seen bugs like this in the past, I think we've fixed some of them, 
 but I
 wouldn't be surprised if there are still some out there.
>>> Hello, I think I've found out where this problem comes from...
>>> It's related with audio, asio particulary...portaudio is still a big
>>> problem here...
>>>
>>> In some words, when asio doesn't work the mouse binding is out.
>>>
>>> I'd be glad to put a bug report but I don't really know how to attribute
>>> this one,
>>> it's both hardware (it might be a portaudio bug),
>>> hardcoding (it might be how portaudio is implemented in pd),
>>> and interface (the tcl part shouldn't be involved when audio is messing 
>>> up)...
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It seems I have something similar on Windows 7 64bits.
>>
>> When selecting ASIO (DSP on or off), I have a great lag when moving the
>> mouse around. The object takes a second to catch up with mouse pointer once
>> it's stopped. There's no continuous updating of the object position like
>> with MMIO selected.
>> Happens on a new canvas with just one object, any object (I used [route] and
>> [sel]), not just GUI stuff. With GUI elements (numbox) the value is not
>> updated until the mouse stops briefly.
>>
>> pob
> 
> Looking into the matter, it seems to affect portaudio when I select the sound
> chip of the laptop, but not when I select ASIO4all. I haven't tried my RME
> Hdsp yet.

> Also, when turning off DSP, the tick left of the selected audio output mode
> disappears (ASIO or MMIO). It reappears once you re-enable DSP.

Can you make a screenshot and add it to the bug report patco said he'd file?
The above info would be good to have there too.  Something is definitely
problematic with the portaudio implementation.  It was causing issues on Mac
OS X, and its the same code.

.hc

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On 01/23/2013 07:02 AM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>> On 01/07/2013 07:51 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>>>
>>> hello, I'd like to report again a problem that is still not resolved in 
>>> this release...
>>>
>>> On win32, I've got many pd patches that makes the GUI not working with 
>>> mouse binding, 
>>> I can not move any object on the patch, only the arrows can make it move 
>>> when it's selected.
>>>
>>> It's still hard to tell where does it come from without passing hours 
>>> opening, modifying, 
>>> closing, and opening again patches that makes pd GUI doing this, maybe one 
>>> day...
>>
>> Yeah, that's a tough one.  Is this something that you have reported before,
>> like in a bug report in the tracker?  Do you get any error messages when it
>> happens?
>>
>> I've seen bugs like this in the past, I think we've fixed some of them, but I
>> wouldn't be surprised if there are still some out there.
> 
> Hello, I think I've found out where this problem comes from...
> It's related with audio, asio particulary...portaudio is still a big problem 
> here...
> 
> In some words, when asio doesn't work the mouse binding is out.
> 
> I'd be glad to put a bug report but I don't really know how to attribute this 
> one,
> it's both hardware (it might be a portaudio bug),
> hardcoding (it might be how portaudio is implemented in pd), 
> and interface (the tcl part shouldn't be involved when audio is messing up)...

If you think you have something repeatable, then please file a bug report.
Ideally, it would be the steps needed to reprocude it everytime or a patch to
trigger the bug.  But that's not always possible.

.hc

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Pierre-Olivier Boulant]

On 23/01/2013 13:22, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


On 23/01/2013 13:02, Patrice Colet wrote:

On 01/07/2013 07:51 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
hello, I'd like to report again a problem that is still not 
resolved in this release...


On win32, I've got many pd patches that makes the GUI not working 
with mouse binding,
I can not move any object on the patch, only the arrows can make it 
move when it's selected.


It's still hard to tell where does it come from without passing 
hours opening, modifying,
closing, and opening again patches that makes pd GUI doing this, 
maybe one day...
Yeah, that's a tough one.  Is this something that you have reported 
before,
like in a bug report in the tracker?  Do you get any error messages 
when it

happens?

I've seen bugs like this in the past, I think we've fixed some of 
them, but I

wouldn't be surprised if there are still some out there.

Hello, I think I've found out where this problem comes from...
It's related with audio, asio particulary...portaudio is still a big 
problem here...


In some words, when asio doesn't work the mouse binding is out.

I'd be glad to put a bug report but I don't really know how to 
attribute this one,

it's both hardware (it might be a portaudio bug),
hardcoding (it might be how portaudio is implemented in pd),
and interface (the tcl part shouldn't be involved when audio is 
messing up)...





Hi,

It seems I have something similar on Windows 7 64bits.

When selecting ASIO (DSP on or off), I have a great lag when moving 
the mouse around. The object takes a second to catch up with mouse 
pointer once it's stopped. There's no continuous updating of the 
object position like with MMIO selected.
Happens on a new canvas with just one object, any object (I used 
[route] and [sel]), not just GUI stuff. With GUI elements (numbox) the 
value is not updated until the mouse stops briefly.


pob


Looking into the matter, it seems to affect portaudio when I select the 
sound chip of the laptop, but not when I select ASIO4all. I haven't 
tried my RME Hdsp yet.


Also, when turning off DSP, the tick left of the selected audio output 
mode disappears (ASIO or MMIO). It reappears once you re-enable DSP.


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Pierre-Olivier Boulant]

On 23/01/2013 13:02, Patrice Colet wrote:

On 01/07/2013 07:51 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:

hello, I'd like to report again a problem that is still not resolved in this 
release...

On win32, I've got many pd patches that makes the GUI not working with mouse 
binding,
I can not move any object on the patch, only the arrows can make it move when 
it's selected.

It's still hard to tell where does it come from without passing hours opening, 
modifying,
closing, and opening again patches that makes pd GUI doing this, maybe one 
day...

Yeah, that's a tough one.  Is this something that you have reported before,
like in a bug report in the tracker?  Do you get any error messages when it
happens?

I've seen bugs like this in the past, I think we've fixed some of them, but I
wouldn't be surprised if there are still some out there.

Hello, I think I've found out where this problem comes from...
It's related with audio, asio particulary...portaudio is still a big problem 
here...

In some words, when asio doesn't work the mouse binding is out.

I'd be glad to put a bug report but I don't really know how to attribute this 
one,
it's both hardware (it might be a portaudio bug),
hardcoding (it might be how portaudio is implemented in pd),
and interface (the tcl part shouldn't be involved when audio is messing up)...




Hi,

It seems I have something similar on Windows 7 64bits.

When selecting ASIO (DSP on or off), I have a great lag when moving the 
mouse around. The object takes a second to catch up with mouse pointer 
once it's stopped. There's no continuous updating of the object position 
like with MMIO selected.
Happens on a new canvas with just one object, any object (I used [route] 
and [sel]), not just GUI stuff. With GUI elements (numbox) the value is 
not updated until the mouse stops briefly.


pob

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[PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Patrice Colet]

>On 01/07/2013 07:51 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>> 
>> hello, I'd like to report again a problem that is still not resolved in this 
>> release...
>> 
>> On win32, I've got many pd patches that makes the GUI not working with mouse 
>> binding, 
>> I can not move any object on the patch, only the arrows can make it move 
>> when it's selected.
>> 
>> It's still hard to tell where does it come from without passing hours 
>> opening, modifying, 
>> closing, and opening again patches that makes pd GUI doing this, maybe one 
>> day...
>
>Yeah, that's a tough one.  Is this something that you have reported before,
>like in a bug report in the tracker?  Do you get any error messages when it
>happens?
>
>I've seen bugs like this in the past, I think we've fixed some of them, but I
>wouldn't be surprised if there are still some out there.

Hello, I think I've found out where this problem comes from...
It's related with audio, asio particulary...portaudio is still a big problem 
here...

In some words, when asio doesn't work the mouse binding is out.

I'd be glad to put a bug report but I don't really know how to attribute this 
one,
it's both hardware (it might be a portaudio bug),
hardcoding (it might be how portaudio is implemented in pd), 
and interface (the tcl part shouldn't be involved when audio is messing up)...





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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Seiichiro MATSUMURA]

Hi Hans,

The indication of Media->"Audio Settings..." looks working fine
because default name of "Built-in Microphone" and "Built-in Output"
described in English.
Most of audio interfaces' names are also described in English. I don't
see problems like MIDI setting.

Best,

Sei


2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>
> The MIDI port fix works fine, that will stay in.  I'm only talking about 
> Media->"Audio Settings..." not Media->"MIDI Settings...".
>
> .hc
>
> On Jan 17, 2013, at 3:12 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> I see.
>> I think the old behavior that indicates Japanese name of MIDI port as
>> blank is not a major problem because I already find out the solution
>> by changing it to English name. I agree with your reverting.
>> I would announce it in my Pd blog.
>>
>> About &character in the label problem, I will test new build later.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Sei
>>
>> --
>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
>> Seiichiro Matsumura
>>
>> s...@low-tech-ism.com
>> http://low-tech-ism.com/
>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
>>> I hope the old behavior works for you, because it turns out that its quite 
>>> a bit more complicated than I
>>> thought, so its not the kind of change that should be made without lots of 
>>> time for testing on many
>>> different setups with different audio devices.
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>>>
>>> Hey Sei,
>>>
>>> I hope the old behavior works for you, because it turns out that its quite 
>>> a bit more complicated than I thought, so its not the kind of change that 
>>> should be made without lots of time for testing on many different setups 
>>> with different audio devices.  I reverted my change that only affect 
>>> portaudio, i.e. when you select a device name in Pd-extended's Audio 
>>> Settings.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>>>
 Hi Hans,

 I changed the name of IAC driver then tested the latest one. I could
 see the Japanese Audio and MIDI driver name, but some strange strings
 attached to the tail of the driver name. Sometimes they are not
 Japanese nor English, some characters I can't read.
 More weird thing is that every time I restart Pd-extended, that
 attached strings are changed. there is no rule of this changing.
 see attached jpegs.

 Best,

 Sei


 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>
> Hey Sei,
>
> I'm pretty sure I fixed the issues with the Audio and MIDI names being in 
> Japanese.  Can you test it on your machine and confirm?  I can't make the 
> Audio names have Japanese in them on my 10.6 system, so I have no way to 
> test it.
>
> .hc
>
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>
>> Hi HC,
>>
>> On Mac OSX（10.7 Lion）, "Audio setting" and "MIDI setting" under
>> "Media" menu are still buggy.
>> I often have freeze Pd when I change settings and I need to restart Pd.
>>
>> This is just another question.
>> What is the difference between "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" and "Edit
>> mode(Cmd+E)" under "Edit" menu?
>> I can't understand the specific function of "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" 
>> added.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Sei Matsumura
>>
>>
>> --
>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
>> Seiichiro Matsumura
>>
>> s...@low-tech-ism.com
>> http://low-tech-ism.com/
>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>>>
>>> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and 
>>> make
>>> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
>>> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex 
>>> before
>>> finalizing it.  Download here:
>>>
>>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>>
>>> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
>>> release
>>> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
>>> highlights:
>>>
>>> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
>>> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl 
>>> (tclpd)
>>> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
>>> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
>>> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
>>> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
>>> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>>>
>>> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>>>
>>> Download it here:
>>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>>
>>>
>>> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
>>> https://launchpad.net/~

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

About the color scheme, you can make a KXStudio color scheme so you can see
the checkboxes and put it in a plugin.  Here are some examples:

http://puredata.info/docs/guiplugins/GUIPlugins/

In particular:
https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/scripts/guiplugins/simple_examples/gtklook-plugin.tcl
https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/scripts/guiplugins/simple_examples/ubuntu_newwave_style-plugin.tcl

.hc

On 01/22/2013 10:18 AM, Raphael Raccuia wrote:
> Hi,
> I tried on KXStudio (based kde and ubundu 12.04): difficult to use, because of
> graphicalissues. Certainly the black KX theme is mostly guilty:
> -crosses incheck boxes doesn't display. Impossible to know if checked or not
> -menus are some bugged: sometimes I have to pass on them with cursor to
> display items, sometimes it's mixed with whatis displayed in the window (log,
> patch)
> I also have trouble with sound, but it's another problem.
> I report here because I don't know if the problem comes from KX or pd.
> bk
> Le 08. 01. 13 17:23, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
>>
>> Ah yes, I see.  I'll try to see what's the cause.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Ángel Faraldo wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> from your reply I understand this behavior is not buggy, it only seemed
>>> unpractical and surprising, first because all other other apps in mac (open
>>> source apps included) ignore capitalization for shortcuts, and second,
>>> because this was not the case before pd 0.43.
>>>
>>> á
>>>
>>> On 08/01/2013, at 17:04, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>

 I always disable caps lock on my machine and make it an extra Ctrl key for
 reasons like this.
 What do other Mac apps do?  How about TextEdit?

 .hc

 On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Ángel Faraldo wrote:

> I don't know if this is the thread where to post this...
>
> I don't even know whether this is a bug or a desired behavior,
>
> but I find quite annoying that shortcuts (cntrl-X, cntrl-N...) don't work
> for me when I have "caps locked" on my keyboard.
>
> This applies to all pd-0.43 versions that I have tried, extended and
> vanilla.
>
> (here: mac osx 10.6.8)
>
> happy new year to all!
>
> angelfaraldo
>
> On 07/01/2013, at 18:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>>
>> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and
>> make
>> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
>> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex
>> before
>> finalizing it.  Download here:
>>
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>
>> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This
>> release
>> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some
>> highlights:
>>
>> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
>> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl
>> (tclpd)
>> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
>> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
>> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
>> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
>> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>>
>> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>>
>> Download it here:
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>
>>
>> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
>> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>> 
>>
>> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>>
>>
>> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>>
>> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>>
>> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>>
>> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>>
>> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
>>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Raphael Raccuia]

Hi,
I tried on KXStudio (based kde and ubundu 12.04): difficult to use, 
because of graphicalissues. Certainly the black KX theme is mostly guilty:

-crosses incheck boxes doesn't display. Impossible to know if checked or not
-menus are some bugged: sometimes I have to pass on them with cursor to 
display items, sometimes it's mixed with whatis displayed in the window 
(log, patch)

I also have trouble with sound, but it's another problem.
I report here because I don't know if the problem comes from KX or pd.
bk
Le 08. 01. 13 17:23, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :


Ah yes, I see.  I'll try to see what's the cause.

.hc

On Jan 8, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Ángel Faraldo wrote:



Hi Hans,

from your reply I understand this behavior is not buggy, it only 
seemed unpractical and surprising, first because all other other apps 
in mac (open source apps included) ignore capitalization for 
shortcuts, and second, because this was not the case before pd 0.43.


á

On 08/01/2013, at 17:04, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



I always disable caps lock on my machine and make it an extra Ctrl 
key for reasons like this.

What do other Mac apps do?  How about TextEdit?

.hc

On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Ángel Faraldo wrote:


I don't know if this is the thread where to post this...

I don't even know whether this is a bug or a desired behavior,

but I find quite annoying that shortcuts (cntrl-X, cntrl-N...) 
don't work for me when I have "caps locked" on my keyboard.


This applies to all pd-0.43 versions that I have tried, extended 
and vanilla.


(here: mac osx 10.6.8)

happy new year to all!

angelfaraldo

On 07/01/2013, at 18:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



I think this is the final release, last chance to test your 
patches and make
sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, 
double-check the
translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from 
Transifex before

finalizing it.  Download here:

http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4

Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion! 
 This release
includes the most new features of any release before, here are 
some highlights:


* complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
* loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and 
Tcl (tclpd)

* new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
* GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
* full Unicode support, write patches in any language
* fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
* Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens

And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Download it here:
http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4


Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/ 



run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended


There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:

* Windows command line args don't work with unicode
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070

* [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070

* Right-click menu causes CPU spike
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070

* specific kinds of "GUI overload"
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

The MIDI port fix works fine, that will stay in.  I'm only talking about 
Media->"Audio Settings..." not Media->"MIDI Settings...".  

.hc

On Jan 17, 2013, at 3:12 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

> Hi Hans,
> 
> I see.
> I think the old behavior that indicates Japanese name of MIDI port as
> blank is not a major problem because I already find out the solution
> by changing it to English name. I agree with your reverting.
> I would announce it in my Pd blog.
> 
> About &character in the label problem, I will test new build later.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Sei
> 
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>> I hope the old behavior works for you, because it turns out that its quite a 
>> bit more complicated than I
>> thought, so its not the kind of change that should be made without lots of 
>> time for testing on many
>> different setups with different audio devices.
> 
> 
> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>> 
>> Hey Sei,
>> 
>> I hope the old behavior works for you, because it turns out that its quite a 
>> bit more complicated than I thought, so its not the kind of change that 
>> should be made without lots of time for testing on many different setups 
>> with different audio devices.  I reverted my change that only affect 
>> portaudio, i.e. when you select a device name in Pd-extended's Audio 
>> Settings.
>> 
>> .hc
>> 
>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Hans,
>>> 
>>> I changed the name of IAC driver then tested the latest one. I could
>>> see the Japanese Audio and MIDI driver name, but some strange strings
>>> attached to the tail of the driver name. Sometimes they are not
>>> Japanese nor English, some characters I can't read.
>>> More weird thing is that every time I restart Pd-extended, that
>>> attached strings are changed. there is no rule of this changing.
>>> see attached jpegs.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Sei
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
 
 Hey Sei,
 
 I'm pretty sure I fixed the issues with the Audio and MIDI names being in 
 Japanese.  Can you test it on your machine and confirm?  I can't make the 
 Audio names have Japanese in them on my 10.6 system, so I have no way to 
 test it.
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
 
> Hi HC,
> 
> On Mac OSX（10.7 Lion）, "Audio setting" and "MIDI setting" under
> "Media" menu are still buggy.
> I often have freeze Pd when I change settings and I need to restart Pd.
> 
> This is just another question.
> What is the difference between "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" and "Edit
> mode(Cmd+E)" under "Edit" menu?
> I can't understand the specific function of "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" 
> added.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Sei Matsumura
> 
> 
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> 
> 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>> 
>> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and 
>> make
>> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
>> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex 
>> before
>> finalizing it.  Download here:
>> 
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>> 
>> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
>> release
>> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
>> highlights:
>> 
>> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
>> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl 
>> (tclpd)
>> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
>> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
>> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
>> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
>> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>> 
>> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>> 
>> Download it here:
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>> 
>> 
>> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
>> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>> 
>> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>> 
>> 
>> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>> 
>> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=4780

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Nicolas Montgermont]

It's fixed, no problem when right clicking on the right toggle now.
Thanks!
n

Le 17/01/13 06:38, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :


Turns out the problem was the & character in the label.  I fixed it so 
please test in tomorrow's build (2013-01-17)


This patch is what fixes it:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2947822&group_id=55736&atid=478072

About the labels not showing up when the patch loads, that's because 
you are saving the patch with a label that has spaces in it, which the 
iemgui objects do not handle.  In your patch, you could fix it by 
using _ instead of spaces, like by using [l2s _].


This could be fixed if iemgui_save() escaped spaces with \ and removed 
characters like ;,{}\ from the symbol.  I'll try to implement that, 
but I won't get to it tonight.


.hc

On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:40 AM, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:


ok I can reproduce this here.
the left toggle open each time without label, but when there is one 
on the right toggle and I click properties i have this error:


(Tcl) ERREUR NON GÉRÉE : wrong # args: should be "pdtk_iemgui_dialog 
mytoplevel mainheader dim_header wdt min_wdt wdt_label hgt min_hgt 
hgt_label rng_header min_rng min_rng_label max_rng max_rng_label 
rng_sched lin0_log1 lilo0_label lilo1_label loadbang steady num_label 
num snd rcv gui_name gn_dx gn_dy gn_f gn_fs bcol fcol lcol"

while executing
"pdtk_iemgui_dialog .gfxstub3405d0 |tgl| 
--dimensions(pix):--- 15 8 size: 0 0 
empty ---non-zero-value:-..."

("uplevel" body line 1)
invoked from within
"uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd"


joined is the actual state of the patch, right clicking on the right 
toggle displays the error

Best,
n

Le 16/01/13 12:25, James Dunn a écrit :

I'm using Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 and Mac OS 10.6.8.
Did you try saving the patch before reloading it? This is crucial to 
reproduce the bug.


Steps to reproduce the error are:

1) Open patch in Pd
2) If patch loads with the toggles unlabelled, then right-clicking 
the toggle and selecting 'Properties' works (however the receive 
labels have not been [loadbang]'d. If patch loads with toggles 
labelled right-clicking and selecting 'Properties' results in the 
error message.

3) Save patch, close and reload

Saving the patch means it will reopen in the alternate state. Hope 
this makes sense.


James


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Seiichiro MATSUMURA]

Hi Hans,

> I hope the old behavior works for you, because it turns out that its quite a 
> bit more complicated than I
> thought, so its not the kind of change that should be made without lots of 
> time for testing on many
> different setups with different audio devices.

I see.
I think the old behavior that indicates Japanese name of MIDI port as
blank is not a major problem because I already find out the solution
by changing it to English name. I agree with your reverting.
I would announce it in my Pd blog.

About &character in the label problem, I will test new build later.

Best,

Sei

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2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>
> Hey Sei,
>
> I hope the old behavior works for you, because it turns out that its quite a 
> bit more complicated than I thought, so its not the kind of change that 
> should be made without lots of time for testing on many different setups with 
> different audio devices.  I reverted my change that only affect portaudio, 
> i.e. when you select a device name in Pd-extended's Audio Settings.
>
> .hc
>
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> I changed the name of IAC driver then tested the latest one. I could
>> see the Japanese Audio and MIDI driver name, but some strange strings
>> attached to the tail of the driver name. Sometimes they are not
>> Japanese nor English, some characters I can't read.
>> More weird thing is that every time I restart Pd-extended, that
>> attached strings are changed. there is no rule of this changing.
>> see attached jpegs.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Sei
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>>>
>>> Hey Sei,
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure I fixed the issues with the Audio and MIDI names being in 
>>> Japanese.  Can you test it on your machine and confirm?  I can't make the 
>>> Audio names have Japanese in them on my 10.6 system, so I have no way to 
>>> test it.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>>>
 Hi HC,

 On Mac OSX（10.7 Lion）, "Audio setting" and "MIDI setting" under
 "Media" menu are still buggy.
 I often have freeze Pd when I change settings and I need to restart Pd.

 This is just another question.
 What is the difference between "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" and "Edit
 mode(Cmd+E)" under "Edit" menu?
 I can't understand the specific function of "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" added.

 Best,

 Sei Matsumura


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 __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/


 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>
> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and 
> make
> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex 
> before
> finalizing it.  Download here:
>
> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>
> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
> release
> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
> highlights:
>
> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl 
> (tclpd)
> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>
> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>
> Download it here:
> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>
>
> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>
> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>
>
> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>
> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>
> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>
> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>
> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-li

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Turns out the problem was the & character in the label.  I fixed it so please 
test in tomorrow's build (2013-01-17)

This patch is what fixes it:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2947822&group_id=55736&atid=478072

About the labels not showing up when the patch loads, that's because you are 
saving the patch with a label that has spaces in it, which the iemgui objects 
do not handle.  In your patch, you could fix it by using _ instead of spaces, 
like by using [l2s _].

This could be fixed if iemgui_save() escaped spaces with \ and removed 
characters like ;,{}\ from the symbol.  I'll try to implement that, but I won't 
get to it tonight.

.hc

On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:40 AM, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:

> ok I can reproduce this here.
> the left toggle open each time without label, but when there is one on the 
> right toggle and I click properties i have this error:
> 
> (Tcl) ERREUR NON GÉRÉE : wrong # args: should be "pdtk_iemgui_dialog 
> mytoplevel mainheader dim_header wdt min_wdt wdt_label hgt min_hgt hgt_label 
> rng_header min_rng min_rng_label max_rng max_rng_label rng_sched lin0_log1 
> lilo0_label lilo1_label loadbang steady num_label num snd rcv gui_name gn_dx 
> gn_dy gn_f gn_fs bcol fcol lcol"
> while executing
> "pdtk_iemgui_dialog .gfxstub3405d0 |tgl| 
> --dimensions(pix):--- 15 8 size: 0 0 empty 
> ---non-zero-value:-..."
> ("uplevel" body line 1)
> invoked from within
> "uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd"
> 
> 
> joined is the actual state of the patch, right clicking on the right toggle 
> displays the error
> Best,
> n
> 
> Le 16/01/13 12:25, James Dunn a écrit :
>> I'm using Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 and Mac OS 10.6.8.
>> Did you try saving the patch before reloading it? This is crucial to 
>> reproduce the bug.
>> 
>> Steps to reproduce the error are:
>> 
>> 1) Open patch in Pd
>> 2) If patch loads with the toggles unlabelled, then right-clicking the 
>> toggle and selecting 'Properties' works (however the receive labels have not 
>> been [loadbang]'d. If patch loads with toggles labelled right-clicking and 
>> selecting 'Properties' results in the error message.
>> 3) Save patch, close and reload
>> 
>> Saving the patch means it will reopen in the alternate state. Hope this 
>> makes sense.
>> 
>> James
>> 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Hey Sei,

I hope the old behavior works for you, because it turns out that its quite a 
bit more complicated than I thought, so its not the kind of change that should 
be made without lots of time for testing on many different setups with 
different audio devices.  I reverted my change that only affect portaudio, i.e. 
when you select a device name in Pd-extended's Audio Settings.

.hc

On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

> Hi Hans,
> 
> I changed the name of IAC driver then tested the latest one. I could
> see the Japanese Audio and MIDI driver name, but some strange strings
> attached to the tail of the driver name. Sometimes they are not
> Japanese nor English, some characters I can't read.
> More weird thing is that every time I restart Pd-extended, that
> attached strings are changed. there is no rule of this changing.
> see attached jpegs.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Sei
> 
> 
> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>> 
>> Hey Sei,
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure I fixed the issues with the Audio and MIDI names being in 
>> Japanese.  Can you test it on your machine and confirm?  I can't make the 
>> Audio names have Japanese in them on my 10.6 system, so I have no way to 
>> test it.
>> 
>> .hc
>> 
>> On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi HC,
>>> 
>>> On Mac OSX（10.7 Lion）, "Audio setting" and "MIDI setting" under
>>> "Media" menu are still buggy.
>>> I often have freeze Pd when I change settings and I need to restart Pd.
>>> 
>>> This is just another question.
>>> What is the difference between "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" and "Edit
>>> mode(Cmd+E)" under "Edit" menu?
>>> I can't understand the specific function of "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" added.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Sei Matsumura
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
>>> Seiichiro Matsumura
>>> 
>>> s...@low-tech-ism.com
>>> http://low-tech-ism.com/
>>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
 
 I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and 
 make
 sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
 translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex 
 before
 finalizing it.  Download here:
 
 http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
 
 Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
 release
 includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
 highlights:
 
 * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
 * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl 
 (tclpd)
 * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
 * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
 * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
 * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
 * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
 
 And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
 
 Download it here:
 http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
 
 
 Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
 https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
 
 run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
 
 
 There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
 
 * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
 
 * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
 
 * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
 
 * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
 http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
 
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Hey Oscar,

Thanks for your words of appreciation :)  Bugs like the one you've seen are
tricky when there isn't a way to reproduce it.  So keep your eye on it, and
maybe some other ideas will come to mind.  If I can reproduce the bug, then
its generally pretty easy for me to fix.  If I can't reproduce it, then I'm
really just guessing.

.hc

On 01/16/2013 08:23 AM, oscar santis wrote:
> Hans:
> I loaded the patch without problems on last pd-extended rc installed from
> PPA repositories using apt-get. I think could be some conflict between grid
> and lua 5.1, because this library was added when I installed previous deb
> package downloaded from puredata.info. But this is only a suposition.
> I think there are many people gratefull about your work.
> Thanks
> 
> óscar santis
> escultor, pintor, ruidista
> http://www.oscarsantis.cl
> http://www.flickr.com/oscarsantis
> http://www.soundcloud.com/oscarsantis
> tel: ++ 56 9 84280381
> El 12/01/2013 23:15, "Hans-Christoph Steiner"  escribió:
> 
>>
>> I still can't reproduce this, it doesn't happen on my machine with your
>> patch
>> either.  I'm on Linux Mint Maya, which is Ubuntu 12.04 with some extras.  I
>> tested both 32-bit and 64-bit.
>>
>> My guess is that you have an old version of grid installed somewhere like
>> ~/pd-externals or /usr/local/lib/pd-externals
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/12/2013 10:44 AM, oscar santis wrote:
>>> Hans-Christoph:
>>> The patch.
>>> For running sampler player just load and you can record some mic sounds.
>>> Best
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>

 Thanks for the information, but I still am not able to reproduce this.
>> Can
 you send me your patch?

 .hc

 On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:45 AM, oscar santis wrote:

 Hi Hans:
 When i load the patch with unauthorized disabled I don't have problems.
 Then I erase grid object, reload the library and put a new object
>> instance.
 The original patch was saved in a previous Pure Data version. This thing
 happened some time ago with last stable version upgrade, and I solved
>> the
 problem doing the same thing.
 I run PD on Ubuntustudio 12.04, qjackctl in an old 32 bit computer.
 Best

 óscar santis
 escultor, pintor, ruidista
 http://www.oscarsantis.cl
 http://www.flickr.com/oscarsantis
 http://www.soundcloud.com/oscarsantis
 tel: ++ 56 9 84280381
 El 08/01/2013 12:04, "Hans-Christoph Steiner"  escribió:

>
> On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:06 AM, oscar santis wrote:
>
>
>
> 2013/1/8 
>
>> Re: [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1:
>>   last chance to report your bugs
>>
>
> Pd-extended 0.43.4 rc 07/01/2013 crashes when I load a patch with
> unauthorized's grid. This thing don't happens in previous beta version
> running on Ubuntustudio 12.04
> Cheers
>
>
> Why do you think [grid] is causing the crash?
> What OS are you running?
> 32-bit or 64-bit?
>
> Can you include the patch?
>
> .hc
>


>>>
>>>
>>
> 

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On 01/16/2013 06:26 AM, Leandro da Mota Damasceno wrote:
> Well,
> 
> I am having some issues, but I think they are mostly due to my setup or
> something... I'm running on 10.8.2 Mac OS X, bt.
> 
> I have been running 0.42.5 because I didn't want to risk it. So I waited
> for a more stable version of pd-extended to start working hard on it. I
> already had issues on the betas for 0.43.3 so I wasn't really in hurry...

You can have multiple copies of Pd-extended installed.  On Mac OS X, its easy.
 You can copy them anywhere, or just double-click straight from in the .dmg.
If you want to keep 0.42.5 around, just rename it from Pd-extended.app to
Pd-extended-0.42.5.app and you can have both in /Applications

> so now, thing is pretty simple. First of all, I'm not getting any audio
> output. Even when it starts, pd-extended  gives me an audio i/o error that
> quickly disappears.

Serious audio errors will be logged to the Pd window and will stay around
until you clear them.  If you briefly see an audio error flash in the gray bar
in the Pd window, that is basically saying there might have been a click.

To get audio, try switching to "portaudio" in the Media menu.  Try clicking
"Reset to Defaults" in the Preferences.  Make sure DSP is on.  Its hard to
troubleshoot this one without more info.

> I'm also getting this message:
> 
> memento: can't load library
> pixeltango: can't load library
> rradical: can't load library
> toxy: can't load library
> flib: can't load library
> flatspace: can't load library
> pidip: can't load library
> 
> 
> and it really can't load the libs :(

Like Marco said, in the Preferences, click "Reset to Defaults".  Those
libraries are no longer included in Pd-extended but they're still in your
preferences from 0.42.5.

> I feel pretty lame but... help?

That's why we have this list :)

.hc

> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Nicolas Montgermont <
> nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> 
>>  I can't reproduce that here.
>> Using your patch and editing properties of the toggles work ok.
>> Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130114
>> OSX 10.6.8
>>
>> here is my log:
>>
>> Connection from 'pd' to 'pd-gui' on 127.0.0.1:62119
>> [import] $Revision: 1.2 $
>> [path] $Revision: 1.2 $
>> sys_nmidiin 1, nmidiindev 1
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/cyclone'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/zexy'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/creb'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/cxc'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemlib'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/list-abs'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mapping'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/markex'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/maxlib'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/memento'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mjlib'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/motex'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/oscx'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pddp'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdogg'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pixeltango'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/rradical'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/sigpack'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/smlib'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/toxy'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/unauthorized'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pan'
>> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
>> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/hcs'
>> Impossible de lire le doss

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Nicolas Montgermont]

ok I can reproduce this here.
the left toggle open each time without label, but when there is one on 
the right toggle and I click properties i have this error:


(Tcl) ERREUR NON GÉRÉE : wrong # args: should be "pdtk_iemgui_dialog 
mytoplevel mainheader dim_header wdt min_wdt wdt_label hgt min_hgt 
hgt_label rng_header min_rng min_rng_label max_rng max_rng_label 
rng_sched lin0_log1 lilo0_label lilo1_label loadbang steady num_label 
num snd rcv gui_name gn_dx gn_dy gn_f gn_fs bcol fcol lcol"

while executing
"pdtk_iemgui_dialog .gfxstub3405d0 |tgl| 
--dimensions(pix):--- 15 8 size: 0 0 empty 
---non-zero-value:-..."

("uplevel" body line 1)
invoked from within
"uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd"


joined is the actual state of the patch, right clicking on the right 
toggle displays the error

Best,
n

Le 16/01/13 12:25, James Dunn a écrit :

I'm using Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 and Mac OS 10.6.8.
Did you try saving the patch before reloading it? This is crucial to 
reproduce the bug.


Steps to reproduce the error are:

1) Open patch in Pd
2) If patch loads with the toggles unlabelled, then right-clicking the 
toggle and selecting 'Properties' works (however the receive labels 
have not been [loadbang]'d. If patch loads with toggles labelled 
right-clicking and selecting 'Properties' results in the error message.

3) Save patch, close and reload

Saving the patch means it will reopen in the alternate state. Hope 
this makes sense.


James


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#N canvas 500 125 637 580 10;
#X obj 25 24 tgl 15 0 bill-tgl-snd bill-tgl-rcv Bill Freeze & Stop
17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1;
#X msg 44 300 label \$1;
#X obj 44 320 s bill-tgl-rcv;
#X obj 44 260 prepend Bill;
#X msg 44 172 Freeze;
#X msg 74 212 Unfreeze;
#X obj 44 280 l2s;
#X msg 59 192 Freeze & Stop;
#X msg 84 232 Unfreeze & Stop;
#X obj 23 70 loadbang;
#X msg 23 150 label_pos \$1 \$2;
#X obj 23 130 pack 20 7;
#X obj 174 23 tgl 15 0 katja-tgl-snd katja-tgl-rcv Katja 17 7 0 10
-262144 -1 -1 0 1;
#X msg 194 300 label \$1;
#X msg 194 172 Freeze;
#X msg 224 212 Unfreeze;
#X obj 194 280 l2s;
#X msg 209 192 Freeze & Stop;
#X msg 234 232 Unfreeze & Stop;
#X msg 173 150 label_pos \$1 \$2;
#X obj 173 130 pack 20 7;
#X obj 194 320 s katja-tgl-rcv;
#X obj 194 260 prepend Katja;
#X obj 23 110 t b b b b;
#X connect 1 0 2 0;
#X connect 3 0 6 0;
#X connect 4 0 3 0;
#X connect 5 0 3 0;
#X connect 6 0 1 0;
#X connect 7 0 3 0;
#X connect 8 0 3 0;
#X connect 9 0 23 0;
#X connect 10 0 2 0;
#X connect 11 0 10 0;
#X connect 13 0 21 0;
#X connect 14 0 22 0;
#X connect 15 0 22 0;
#X connect 16 0 13 0;
#X connect 17 0 22 0;
#X connect 18 0 22 0;
#X connect 19 0 21 0;
#X connect 20 0 19 0;
#X connect 22 0 16 0;
#X connect 23 0 11 0;
#X connect 23 1 5 0;
#X connect 23 2 20 0;
#X connect 23 3 15 0;
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Leandro da Mota Damasceno]

Well,

I am having some issues, but I think they are mostly due to my setup or
something... I'm running on 10.8.2 Mac OS X, bt.

I have been running 0.42.5 because I didn't want to risk it. So I waited
for a more stable version of pd-extended to start working hard on it. I
already had issues on the betas for 0.43.3 so I wasn't really in hurry...

so now, thing is pretty simple. First of all, I'm not getting any audio
output. Even when it starts, pd-extended  gives me an audio i/o error that
quickly disappears.

I'm also getting this message:

memento: can't load library
pixeltango: can't load library
rradical: can't load library
toxy: can't load library
flib: can't load library
flatspace: can't load library
pidip: can't load library


and it really can't load the libs :(

I feel pretty lame but... help?


On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Nicolas Montgermont <
nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

>  I can't reproduce that here.
> Using your patch and editing properties of the toggles work ok.
> Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130114
> OSX 10.6.8
>
> here is my log:
>
> Connection from 'pd' to 'pd-gui' on 127.0.0.1:62119
> [import] $Revision: 1.2 $
> [path] $Revision: 1.2 $
> sys_nmidiin 1, nmidiindev 1
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/cyclone'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/zexy'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/creb'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/cxc'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemlib'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/list-abs'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mapping'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/markex'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/maxlib'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/memento'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mjlib'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/motex'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/oscx'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pddp'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdogg'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pixeltango'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/rradical'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/sigpack'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/smlib'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/toxy'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/unauthorized'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pan'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/hcs'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/jmmmp'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ext13'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ggee'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/flib'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ekext'
> Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins :
> '/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/flatspace'
> Chargement du plugin :
> /Volumes/Pd-extended/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/search-plugin/search-plugin.tcl
> Chargement des traductions pour search-plugin.tcl
> libdir loader 1.9
> compiled on Jan 14 2013 at 03:25:41
> compiled against Pd version 0.43.4.extended-20130114
> libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path
> pdlua 0.7.1 (GPL) 2012 Martin Peach, based on
> lua 0.6~svn (GPL) 2008 Clau

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[James Dunn]

I'm using Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130115 and Mac OS 10.6.8.
Did you try saving the patch before reloading it? This is crucial to 
reproduce the bug.


Steps to reproduce the error are:

1) Open patch in Pd
2) If patch loads with the toggles unlabelled, then right-clicking the 
toggle and selecting 'Properties' works (however the receive labels have 
not been [loadbang]'d. If patch loads with toggles labelled 
right-clicking and selecting 'Properties' results in the error message.

3) Save patch, close and reload

Saving the patch means it will reopen in the alternate state. Hope this 
makes sense.


James

Quoth Nicolas Montgermont, on 16/01/2013 11:03:

I can't reproduce that here.
Using your patch and editing properties of the toggles work ok.
Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130114
OSX 10.6.8

here is my log:

Connection from 'pd' to 'pd-gui' on 127.0.0.1:62119
[import] $Revision: 1.2 $
[path] $Revision: 1.2 $
sys_nmidiin 1, nmidiindev 1
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/cyclone'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/zexy'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/creb'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/cxc'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemlib'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/list-abs'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mapping'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/markex'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/maxlib'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/memento'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mjlib'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/motex'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/oscx'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pddp'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdogg'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pixeltango'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/rradical'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/sigpack'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/smlib'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/toxy'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/unauthorized'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pan'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/hcs'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/jmmmp'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ext13'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ggee'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/flib'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ekext'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/flatspace'
Chargement du plugin : 
/Volumes/Pd-extended/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/search-plugin/search-plugin.tcl

Chargement des traductions pour search-plugin.tcl
libdir loader 1.9
compiled on Jan 14 2013 at 03:25:41
compiled against Pd version 0.43.4.extended-20130114
libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path
pdlua 0.7.1 (GPL) 2012 Martin Peach, based on
lua 0.6~svn (GPL) 2008 Claude Heiland-Allen 
pdlua: compiled for pd-0.43 on Jan 14 2013 03:25:42
tclpd loader v0.3.0
tclpd: trying to load 
/Volumes/Pd-extended/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.tcl...
tclpd: loaded 
/Volumes/Pd-extended/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.tcl

libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass path
l

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Nicolas Montgermont]

I can't reproduce that here.
Using your patch and editing properties of the toggles work ok.
Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130114
OSX 10.6.8

here is my log:

Connection from 'pd' to 'pd-gui' on 127.0.0.1:62119
[import] $Revision: 1.2 $
[path] $Revision: 1.2 $
sys_nmidiin 1, nmidiindev 1
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/cyclone'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/zexy'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/creb'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/cxc'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemlib'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/list-abs'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mapping'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/markex'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/maxlib'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/memento'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mjlib'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/motex'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/oscx'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pddp'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdogg'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pixeltango'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/rradical'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/sigpack'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/smlib'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/toxy'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/unauthorized'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pan'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/hcs'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/jmmmp'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ext13'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ggee'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/flib'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ekext'
Impossible de lire le dossier des plugins : 
'/Applications/Pd-extended-bis.app/Contents/Resources/extra/flatspace'
Chargement du plugin : 
/Volumes/Pd-extended/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/search-plugin/search-plugin.tcl

Chargement des traductions pour search-plugin.tcl
libdir loader 1.9
compiled on Jan 14 2013 at 03:25:41
compiled against Pd version 0.43.4.extended-20130114
libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path
pdlua 0.7.1 (GPL) 2012 Martin Peach, based on
lua 0.6~svn (GPL) 2008 Claude Heiland-Allen 
pdlua: compiled for pd-0.43 on Jan 14 2013 03:25:42
tclpd loader v0.3.0
tclpd: trying to load 
/Volumes/Pd-extended/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.tcl...
tclpd: loaded 
/Volumes/Pd-extended/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.tcl

libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass path
libdir loader 1.9
compiled on Jan 14 2013 at 03:25:41
compiled against Pd version 0.43.4.extended-20130114
libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'list-abs' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[James Dunn]

I seem to have some strange issues with the new Pd gui on Mac OS X with
the latest version of Pd I just downloaded from here:

http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4


I've attached a simple patch which loads fine but right clicking either
toggle box and selecting 'Properties' results in this error:

loaded: autocompletion-plugin 0.3

(Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: wrong # args: should be "pdtk_iemgui_dialog
mytoplevel mainheader dim_header wdt min_wdt wdt_label hgt min_hgt
hgt_label rng_header min_rng min_rng_label max_rng max_rng_label
rng_sched lin0_log1 lilo0_label lilo1_label loadbang steady num_label
num snd rcv gui_name gn_dx gn_dy gn_f gn_fs bcol fcol lcol"
while executing
"pdtk_iemgui_dialog .gfxstub415620 |tgl|
--dimensions(pix):--- 15 8 size: 0 0 empty
---non-zero-value:-..."
("uplevel" body line 1)
invoked from within
"uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd"


If I then save the patch and reload it, the toggle boxes are not loaded
correctly. However if I then save it again and reload (without
right-clicking properties) it loads ok.

James


Quoth Hans-Christoph Steiner, on 16/01/2013 04:30:
> Hey Sei,
>
> I'm pretty sure I fixed the issues with the Audio and MIDI names being in 
> Japanese.  Can you test it on your machine and confirm?  I can't make the 
> Audio names have Japanese in them on my 10.6 system, so I have no way to test 
> it.
>
> .hc
>
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>
>> Hi HC,
>>
>> On Mac OSX（10.7 Lion）, "Audio setting" and "MIDI setting" under
>> "Media" menu are still buggy.
>> I often have freeze Pd when I change settings and I need to restart Pd.
>>
>> This is just another question.
>> What is the difference between "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" and "Edit
>> mode(Cmd+E)" under "Edit" menu?
>> I can't understand the specific function of "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" added.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Sei Matsumura
>>
>>
>> --
>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
>> Seiichiro Matsumura
>>
>> s...@low-tech-ism.com
>> http://low-tech-ism.com/
>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>>> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
>>> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
>>> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex 
>>> before
>>> finalizing it.  Download here:
>>>
>>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>>
>>> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
>>> release
>>> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
>>> highlights:
>>>
>>> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
>>> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl 
>>> (tclpd)
>>> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
>>> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
>>> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
>>> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
>>> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>>>
>>> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>>>
>>> Download it here:
>>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>>
>>>
>>> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
>>> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>>>
>>> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
>>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>>>
>>>
>>> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>>>
>>> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>>
>>> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>>
>>> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>>
>>> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
>>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
>>>
>>>
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>> Seiichiro Matsumura
>>
>> s...@low-tech-ism.com
>> http://low-tech-ism.com/
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Hey Sei,

I'm pretty sure I fixed the issues with the Audio and MIDI names being in 
Japanese.  Can you test it on your machine and confirm?  I can't make the Audio 
names have Japanese in them on my 10.6 system, so I have no way to test it.

.hc

On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

> Hi HC,
> 
> On Mac OSX（10.7 Lion）, "Audio setting" and "MIDI setting" under
> "Media" menu are still buggy.
> I often have freeze Pd when I change settings and I need to restart Pd.
> 
> This is just another question.
> What is the difference between "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" and "Edit
> mode(Cmd+E)" under "Edit" menu?
> I can't understand the specific function of "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" added.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Sei Matsumura
> 
> 
> --
> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
> Seiichiro Matsumura
> 
> s...@low-tech-ism.com
> http://low-tech-ism.com/
> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
> 
> 
> 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>> 
>> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
>> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
>> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
>> finalizing it.  Download here:
>> 
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>> 
>> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
>> release
>> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
>> highlights:
>> 
>> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
>> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl (tclpd)
>> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
>> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
>> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
>> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
>> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>> 
>> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>> 
>> Download it here:
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>> 
>> 
>> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
>> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>> 
>> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>> 
>> 
>> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>> 
>> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>> 
>> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>> 
>> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>> 
>> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
>> 
>> 
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> Seiichiro Matsumura
> 
> s...@low-tech-ism.com
> http://low-tech-ism.com/
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Leandro da Mota Damasceno]

Cool! thanks!


On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

>
> Thanks for reminding me! :)  I'll announce release candidate 2 right now,
> and
> if no showstopper bugs are reported, then this will be it!  So hopefully
> that
> means this week.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/14/2013 06:36 PM, Leandro da Mota Damasceno wrote:
> > Hi hc,
> >
> > do you have a final release date yet?
> >
> > best
> >
> > leandro
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Ok, I fixed the MIDI devices list on Mac OS X with Japanese characters
> on
> >> my 10.6 machine.  I forget, is this also a problem with the Audio
> devices?
> >> Are Japanese characters making them not show up?
> >>
> >> The fix will be in tomorrow's build.
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Hans,
> >>>
> >>> I found the solution to make "IAC Driver" visible in MIDI setting
> >>> window of Mac OSX.
> >>> In Japanese Mac OSX as a default, the name of Apple "IAC Driver" is
> >>> written in Japanese name with 2byte characters  in Audio MIDI setting
> >>> application of Utility folder. So I changed the name of "IAC Driver"
> >>> to English one.
> >>> I am not sure this is affected, it seems MIDI setting working fine now
> >>> with no freeze.
> >>> Thanks for your suggestion.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Sei
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
> >>> Seiichiro Matsumura
> >>>
> >>> s...@low-tech-ism.com
> >>> http://low-tech-ism.com/
> >>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
> 
>  On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> >> Hmm, this I've never seen happen.  Does it happen in English mode
> >> too? Do any
> >> of the names of your Audio or MIDI devices have non-latin or
> Japanese
> >> characters in them?
> >
> > Language difference could be a cause. Because in MIDI setting window,
> > Apple's default "IAC driver" should be appeared but it is indicated
> as
> > blank. (see attached file.)
> > "driver" is translated in Japanese.
> > Also some audio interface have Japanese character names.
> > I will try it under English mode later.
> 
>  I have 10.6, and when I switch to Japanese, the IAC driver is still in
> >> English.  They must have added those translations in 10.7.  Can you run
> >> this command to start Pd in your Terminal when in Japanese mode and
> send me
> >> the result?  You can Copy and Paste everything starting from the
> command it
> >> into a text file and attach that.  Once Pd launches, go to Media->Audio
> >> Settings, and Media->MIDI Settings. If it crashes, then you'll probably
> >> need to do Audio and MIDI separately.
> 
> 
> /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
> >> -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
> 
>  The command needs to be a single line, and you'll have to change the
> >> date in the Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app to match what you have.  For
> >> example, this is what I get when I do that:
> 
> 
>  $
> >> /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
> >> -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
>  StartNotification name = default
>  set pd_whichmidiapi 4
>  set ::tmp_path {}
>  set ::sys_searchpath $::tmp_path
>  set ::tmp_path {}
>  lappend ::tmp_path {/Users/hans/Library/Pd}
>  lappend ::tmp_path {/Library/Pd}
>  lappend ::tmp_path
> >> {/Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/extra}
>  set ::sys_staticpath $::tmp_path
>  set ::startup_flags {}
>  set ::startup_libraries {}
>  pdtk_pd_startup 0 43 4 {extended-20130104} { {portaudio 4} {jack 5} }
> >> {} {Monaco} normal
>  set pd_whichmidiapi 4
>  set pd_whichapi 4
>  pd init /Volumes/share/code/pd-extended.git 0
> 8 5 11
> 9 6 12
> 10 6 13
> 12 7 16
> 14 8 17
> 16 10 19
> 18 11 22
> 24 14 29
> 30 18 37
> 36 22 44
>  ;
> 
>  pd autopatch 0;
> 
>  pd autopatch 0;
> 
>  pd audio-properties;
>  global audio_indevlist; set audio_indevlist {}
>  lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Microphone}
>  lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Input}
>  lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
>  lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
>  global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
>  lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Built-in Output}
>  lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
>  lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
>  pdtk_audio_dialog .gfxstub4f34080 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0
> 44100
> >> 20 1 0 0 64
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  .hc
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Thanks for reminding me! :)  I'll announce release candidate 2 right now, and
if no showstopper bugs are reported, then this will be it!  So hopefully that
means this week.

.hc

On 01/14/2013 06:36 PM, Leandro da Mota Damasceno wrote:
> Hi hc,
> 
> do you have a final release date yet?
> 
> best
> 
> leandro
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
>>
>> Ok, I fixed the MIDI devices list on Mac OS X with Japanese characters on
>> my 10.6 machine.  I forget, is this also a problem with the Audio devices?
>> Are Japanese characters making them not show up?
>>
>> The fix will be in tomorrow's build.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> I found the solution to make "IAC Driver" visible in MIDI setting
>>> window of Mac OSX.
>>> In Japanese Mac OSX as a default, the name of Apple "IAC Driver" is
>>> written in Japanese name with 2byte characters  in Audio MIDI setting
>>> application of Utility folder. So I changed the name of "IAC Driver"
>>> to English one.
>>> I am not sure this is affected, it seems MIDI setting working fine now
>>> with no freeze.
>>> Thanks for your suggestion.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Sei
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
>>> Seiichiro Matsumura
>>>
>>> s...@low-tech-ism.com
>>> http://low-tech-ism.com/
>>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :

 On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

> Hi,
>
>> Hmm, this I've never seen happen.  Does it happen in English mode
>> too? Do any
>> of the names of your Audio or MIDI devices have non-latin or Japanese
>> characters in them?
>
> Language difference could be a cause. Because in MIDI setting window,
> Apple's default "IAC driver" should be appeared but it is indicated as
> blank. (see attached file.)
> "driver" is translated in Japanese.
> Also some audio interface have Japanese character names.
> I will try it under English mode later.

 I have 10.6, and when I switch to Japanese, the IAC driver is still in
>> English.  They must have added those translations in 10.7.  Can you run
>> this command to start Pd in your Terminal when in Japanese mode and send me
>> the result?  You can Copy and Paste everything starting from the command it
>> into a text file and attach that.  Once Pd launches, go to Media->Audio
>> Settings, and Media->MIDI Settings. If it crashes, then you'll probably
>> need to do Audio and MIDI separately.

 /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
>> -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs

 The command needs to be a single line, and you'll have to change the
>> date in the Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app to match what you have.  For
>> example, this is what I get when I do that:


 $
>> /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
>> -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
 StartNotification name = default
 set pd_whichmidiapi 4
 set ::tmp_path {}
 set ::sys_searchpath $::tmp_path
 set ::tmp_path {}
 lappend ::tmp_path {/Users/hans/Library/Pd}
 lappend ::tmp_path {/Library/Pd}
 lappend ::tmp_path
>> {/Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/extra}
 set ::sys_staticpath $::tmp_path
 set ::startup_flags {}
 set ::startup_libraries {}
 pdtk_pd_startup 0 43 4 {extended-20130104} { {portaudio 4} {jack 5} }
>> {} {Monaco} normal
 set pd_whichmidiapi 4
 set pd_whichapi 4
 pd init /Volumes/share/code/pd-extended.git 0
8 5 11
9 6 12
10 6 13
12 7 16
14 8 17
16 10 19
18 11 22
24 14 29
30 18 37
36 22 44
 ;

 pd autopatch 0;

 pd autopatch 0;

 pd audio-properties;
 global audio_indevlist; set audio_indevlist {}
 lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Microphone}
 lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Input}
 lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
 lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
 global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
 lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Built-in Output}
 lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
 lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
 pdtk_audio_dialog .gfxstub4f34080 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 44100
>> 20 1 0 0 64




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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Leandro da Mota Damasceno]

Hi hc,

do you have a final release date yet?

best

leandro


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

>
> Ok, I fixed the MIDI devices list on Mac OS X with Japanese characters on
> my 10.6 machine.  I forget, is this also a problem with the Audio devices?
> Are Japanese characters making them not show up?
>
> The fix will be in tomorrow's build.
>
> .hc
>
> On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>
> > Hi Hans,
> >
> > I found the solution to make "IAC Driver" visible in MIDI setting
> > window of Mac OSX.
> > In Japanese Mac OSX as a default, the name of Apple "IAC Driver" is
> > written in Japanese name with 2byte characters  in Audio MIDI setting
> > application of Utility folder. So I changed the name of "IAC Driver"
> > to English one.
> > I am not sure this is affected, it seems MIDI setting working fine now
> > with no freeze.
> > Thanks for your suggestion.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Sei
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Seiichiro Matsumura
> >
> > s...@low-tech-ism.com
> > http://low-tech-ism.com/
> > __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
> >>
> >> On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
>  Hmm, this I've never seen happen.  Does it happen in English mode
> too? Do any
>  of the names of your Audio or MIDI devices have non-latin or Japanese
>  characters in them?
> >>>
> >>> Language difference could be a cause. Because in MIDI setting window,
> >>> Apple's default "IAC driver" should be appeared but it is indicated as
> >>> blank. (see attached file.)
> >>> "driver" is translated in Japanese.
> >>> Also some audio interface have Japanese character names.
> >>> I will try it under English mode later.
> >>
> >> I have 10.6, and when I switch to Japanese, the IAC driver is still in
> English.  They must have added those translations in 10.7.  Can you run
> this command to start Pd in your Terminal when in Japanese mode and send me
> the result?  You can Copy and Paste everything starting from the command it
> into a text file and attach that.  Once Pd launches, go to Media->Audio
> Settings, and Media->MIDI Settings. If it crashes, then you'll probably
> need to do Audio and MIDI separately.
> >>
> >> /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
> -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
> >>
> >> The command needs to be a single line, and you'll have to change the
> date in the Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app to match what you have.  For
> example, this is what I get when I do that:
> >>
> >>
> >> $
> /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
> -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
> >> StartNotification name = default
> >> set pd_whichmidiapi 4
> >> set ::tmp_path {}
> >> set ::sys_searchpath $::tmp_path
> >> set ::tmp_path {}
> >> lappend ::tmp_path {/Users/hans/Library/Pd}
> >> lappend ::tmp_path {/Library/Pd}
> >> lappend ::tmp_path
> {/Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/extra}
> >> set ::sys_staticpath $::tmp_path
> >> set ::startup_flags {}
> >> set ::startup_libraries {}
> >> pdtk_pd_startup 0 43 4 {extended-20130104} { {portaudio 4} {jack 5} }
> {} {Monaco} normal
> >> set pd_whichmidiapi 4
> >> set pd_whichapi 4
> >> pd init /Volumes/share/code/pd-extended.git 0
> >>8 5 11
> >>9 6 12
> >>10 6 13
> >>12 7 16
> >>14 8 17
> >>16 10 19
> >>18 11 22
> >>24 14 29
> >>30 18 37
> >>36 22 44
> >> ;
> >>
> >> pd autopatch 0;
> >>
> >> pd autopatch 0;
> >>
> >> pd audio-properties;
> >> global audio_indevlist; set audio_indevlist {}
> >> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Microphone}
> >> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Input}
> >> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
> >> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
> >> global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
> >> lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Built-in Output}
> >> lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
> >> lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
> >> pdtk_audio_dialog .gfxstub4f34080 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 44100
> 20 1 0 0 64
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Ok, I fixed the MIDI devices list on Mac OS X with Japanese characters on my 
10.6 machine.  I forget, is this also a problem with the Audio devices? Are 
Japanese characters making them not show up?

The fix will be in tomorrow's build.

.hc

On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

> Hi Hans,
> 
> I found the solution to make "IAC Driver" visible in MIDI setting
> window of Mac OSX.
> In Japanese Mac OSX as a default, the name of Apple "IAC Driver" is
> written in Japanese name with 2byte characters  in Audio MIDI setting
> application of Utility folder. So I changed the name of "IAC Driver"
> to English one.
> I am not sure this is affected, it seems MIDI setting working fine now
> with no freeze.
> Thanks for your suggestion.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Sei
> 
> 
> --
> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
> Seiichiro Matsumura
> 
> s...@low-tech-ism.com
> http://low-tech-ism.com/
> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>> 
>> On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
 Hmm, this I've never seen happen.  Does it happen in English mode too? Do 
 any
 of the names of your Audio or MIDI devices have non-latin or Japanese
 characters in them?
>>> 
>>> Language difference could be a cause. Because in MIDI setting window,
>>> Apple's default "IAC driver" should be appeared but it is indicated as
>>> blank. (see attached file.)
>>> "driver" is translated in Japanese.
>>> Also some audio interface have Japanese character names.
>>> I will try it under English mode later.
>> 
>> I have 10.6, and when I switch to Japanese, the IAC driver is still in 
>> English.  They must have added those translations in 10.7.  Can you run this 
>> command to start Pd in your Terminal when in Japanese mode and send me the 
>> result?  You can Copy and Paste everything starting from the command it into 
>> a text file and attach that.  Once Pd launches, go to Media->Audio Settings, 
>> and Media->MIDI Settings. If it crashes, then you'll probably need to do 
>> Audio and MIDI separately.
>> 
>> /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd 
>> -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
>> 
>> The command needs to be a single line, and you'll have to change the date in 
>> the Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app to match what you have.  For example, 
>> this is what I get when I do that:
>> 
>> 
>> $ /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd 
>> -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
>> StartNotification name = default
>> set pd_whichmidiapi 4
>> set ::tmp_path {}
>> set ::sys_searchpath $::tmp_path
>> set ::tmp_path {}
>> lappend ::tmp_path {/Users/hans/Library/Pd}
>> lappend ::tmp_path {/Library/Pd}
>> lappend ::tmp_path 
>> {/Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/extra}
>> set ::sys_staticpath $::tmp_path
>> set ::startup_flags {}
>> set ::startup_libraries {}
>> pdtk_pd_startup 0 43 4 {extended-20130104} { {portaudio 4} {jack 5} } {} 
>> {Monaco} normal
>> set pd_whichmidiapi 4
>> set pd_whichapi 4
>> pd init /Volumes/share/code/pd-extended.git 0
>>8 5 11
>>9 6 12
>>10 6 13
>>12 7 16
>>14 8 17
>>16 10 19
>>18 11 22
>>24 14 29
>>30 18 37
>>36 22 44
>> ;
>> 
>> pd autopatch 0;
>> 
>> pd autopatch 0;
>> 
>> pd audio-properties;
>> global audio_indevlist; set audio_indevlist {}
>> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Microphone}
>> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Input}
>> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
>> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
>> global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
>> lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Built-in Output}
>> lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
>> lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
>> pdtk_audio_dialog .gfxstub4f34080 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 44100 20 1 
>> 0 0 64
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

There are two ways to update the audio to the audio device: polling and
callbacks.  Pd defaults to polling the audio device for updates.  "Use
callbacks" sets up a callback so that the audio device "calls Pd back" when
its ready.

I'm not a jack user and I don't know that part of the code, so I'm not going
to dig into that.  But do report it to the bug tracker if its an issue you
want fixed.

.hc

On 01/09/2013 06:42 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> Yes, I have the same result.. With checkbox 'use callbacks' on, pd can run
> and do sounds.
> 
> I have the same question of Fero, What's 'use callbacks'? And another
> observation..
> 
> All the applications with jack support when I close the application, almost
> instantaneouslly, the app outs of Jack clients "patchbay" on qjackctl, pd
> still in this list about 1 minute or more...
> That's can be solved?
> 
> 
> 2013/1/9 Fero Kiraly 
> 
>> ... I try to investigate more, and I when I check the CHECKBOX 'use
>> callbacks' all of this wrong behaviour (freezing, signaling watchdog msg)
>> disapperas.
>> So I think I have solved my problem.
>>
>> What exactly does 'use callbacks' ?
>>
>>
>> Fero
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Fero Kiraly]

... I try to investigate more, and I when I check the CHECKBOX 'use
callbacks' all of this wrong behaviour (freezing, signaling watchdog msg)
disapperas.
So I think I have solved my problem.

What exactly does 'use callbacks' ?


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Fero Kiraly]

I have some trouble with JACK
When I try to change JACK audio settings, pd freezes & message 'watchdog:
signaling pd...' is repeating in console..

I am using Arch Linux 64bit. Tcl/Tk, 8.6.0
Do you need some more infos / logs ?

thank you
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Ok, some more bug fixes:

- restored opening of .mxb and .help files from Max/MSP
- fixed Roman's crasher bug with dynamically created subpatches
- (GNU/Linux) fixed double-click opening of unicode file names
- (GNU/Linux) fixed double-click opening of files with spaces in the name
- (GNU/Linux) hopefully fixed the icon for .pd files, let me know if you see
this on your machine, .pd patches should look like the attached image


.hc
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

That's good to know, at least there is a workaround.  That also provides me 
with a way to reproduce it on my machine :)  I didn't know you could rename IAC 
Driver, so I did that, and I have the same issue.  Now it should be possible to 
fix.

.hc

On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

> Hi Hans,
> 
> I found the solution to make "IAC Driver" visible in MIDI setting
> window of Mac OSX.
> In Japanese Mac OSX as a default, the name of Apple "IAC Driver" is
> written in Japanese name with 2byte characters  in Audio MIDI setting
> application of Utility folder. So I changed the name of "IAC Driver"
> to English one.
> I am not sure this is affected, it seems MIDI setting working fine now
> with no freeze.
> Thanks for your suggestion.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Sei
> 
> 
> --
> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
> Seiichiro Matsumura
> 
> s...@low-tech-ism.com
> http://low-tech-ism.com/
> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>> 
>> On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
 Hmm, this I've never seen happen.  Does it happen in English mode too? Do 
 any
 of the names of your Audio or MIDI devices have non-latin or Japanese
 characters in them?
>>> 
>>> Language difference could be a cause. Because in MIDI setting window,
>>> Apple's default "IAC driver" should be appeared but it is indicated as
>>> blank. (see attached file.)
>>> "driver" is translated in Japanese.
>>> Also some audio interface have Japanese character names.
>>> I will try it under English mode later.
>> 
>> I have 10.6, and when I switch to Japanese, the IAC driver is still in 
>> English.  They must have added those translations in 10.7.  Can you run this 
>> command to start Pd in your Terminal when in Japanese mode and send me the 
>> result?  You can Copy and Paste everything starting from the command it into 
>> a text file and attach that.  Once Pd launches, go to Media->Audio Settings, 
>> and Media->MIDI Settings. If it crashes, then you'll probably need to do 
>> Audio and MIDI separately.
>> 
>> /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd 
>> -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
>> 
>> The command needs to be a single line, and you'll have to change the date in 
>> the Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app to match what you have.  For example, 
>> this is what I get when I do that:
>> 
>> 
>> $ /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd 
>> -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
>> StartNotification name = default
>> set pd_whichmidiapi 4
>> set ::tmp_path {}
>> set ::sys_searchpath $::tmp_path
>> set ::tmp_path {}
>> lappend ::tmp_path {/Users/hans/Library/Pd}
>> lappend ::tmp_path {/Library/Pd}
>> lappend ::tmp_path 
>> {/Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/extra}
>> set ::sys_staticpath $::tmp_path
>> set ::startup_flags {}
>> set ::startup_libraries {}
>> pdtk_pd_startup 0 43 4 {extended-20130104} { {portaudio 4} {jack 5} } {} 
>> {Monaco} normal
>> set pd_whichmidiapi 4
>> set pd_whichapi 4
>> pd init /Volumes/share/code/pd-extended.git 0
>>8 5 11
>>9 6 12
>>10 6 13
>>12 7 16
>>14 8 17
>>16 10 19
>>18 11 22
>>24 14 29
>>30 18 37
>>36 22 44
>> ;
>> 
>> pd autopatch 0;
>> 
>> pd autopatch 0;
>> 
>> pd audio-properties;
>> global audio_indevlist; set audio_indevlist {}
>> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Microphone}
>> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Input}
>> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
>> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
>> global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
>> lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Built-in Output}
>> lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
>> lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
>> pdtk_audio_dialog .gfxstub4f34080 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 44100 20 1 
>> 0 0 64
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Seiichiro MATSUMURA]

Hi Hans,

I found the solution to make "IAC Driver" visible in MIDI setting
window of Mac OSX.
In Japanese Mac OSX as a default, the name of Apple "IAC Driver" is
written in Japanese name with 2byte characters  in Audio MIDI setting
application of Utility folder. So I changed the name of "IAC Driver"
to English one.
I am not sure this is affected, it seems MIDI setting working fine now
with no freeze.
Thanks for your suggestion.

Best,

Sei


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2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Hmm, this I've never seen happen.  Does it happen in English mode too? Do 
>>> any
>>> of the names of your Audio or MIDI devices have non-latin or Japanese
>>> characters in them?
>>
>> Language difference could be a cause. Because in MIDI setting window,
>> Apple's default "IAC driver" should be appeared but it is indicated as
>> blank. (see attached file.)
>> "driver" is translated in Japanese.
>> Also some audio interface have Japanese character names.
>> I will try it under English mode later.
>
> I have 10.6, and when I switch to Japanese, the IAC driver is still in 
> English.  They must have added those translations in 10.7.  Can you run this 
> command to start Pd in your Terminal when in Japanese mode and send me the 
> result?  You can Copy and Paste everything starting from the command it into 
> a text file and attach that.  Once Pd launches, go to Media->Audio Settings, 
> and Media->MIDI Settings. If it crashes, then you'll probably need to do 
> Audio and MIDI separately.
>
> /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd 
> -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
>
> The command needs to be a single line, and you'll have to change the date in 
> the Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app to match what you have.  For example, 
> this is what I get when I do that:
>
>
> $ /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd 
> -stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
> StartNotification name = default
> set pd_whichmidiapi 4
> set ::tmp_path {}
> set ::sys_searchpath $::tmp_path
> set ::tmp_path {}
> lappend ::tmp_path {/Users/hans/Library/Pd}
> lappend ::tmp_path {/Library/Pd}
> lappend ::tmp_path 
> {/Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/extra}
> set ::sys_staticpath $::tmp_path
> set ::startup_flags {}
> set ::startup_libraries {}
> pdtk_pd_startup 0 43 4 {extended-20130104} { {portaudio 4} {jack 5} } {} 
> {Monaco} normal
> set pd_whichmidiapi 4
> set pd_whichapi 4
> pd init /Volumes/share/code/pd-extended.git 0
> 8 5 11
> 9 6 12
> 10 6 13
> 12 7 16
> 14 8 17
> 16 10 19
> 18 11 22
> 24 14 29
> 30 18 37
> 36 22 44
> ;
>
> pd autopatch 0;
>
> pd autopatch 0;
>
> pd audio-properties;
> global audio_indevlist; set audio_indevlist {}
> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Microphone}
> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Input}
> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
> lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
> global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
> lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Built-in Output}
> lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
> lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
> pdtk_audio_dialog .gfxstub4f34080 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 44100 20 1 
> 0 0 64
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Ah yes, I see.  I'll try to see what's the cause.

.hc

On Jan 8, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Ángel Faraldo wrote:

> 
> Hi Hans, 
> 
> from your reply I understand this behavior is not buggy, it only seemed 
> unpractical and surprising, first because all other other apps in mac (open 
> source apps included) ignore capitalization for shortcuts, and second, 
> because this was not the case before pd 0.43.
> 
> á
> 
> On 08/01/2013, at 17:04, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I always disable caps lock on my machine and make it an extra Ctrl key for 
>> reasons like this.  
>> What do other Mac apps do?  How about TextEdit?
>> 
>> .hc
>> 
>> On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Ángel Faraldo wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't know if this is the thread where to post this...
>>> 
>>> I don't even know whether this is a bug or a desired behavior, 
>>> 
>>> but I find quite annoying that shortcuts (cntrl-X, cntrl-N...) don't work 
>>> for me when I have "caps locked" on my keyboard.
>>> 
>>> This applies to all pd-0.43 versions that I have tried, extended and 
>>> vanilla.
>>> 
>>> (here: mac osx 10.6.8)
>>> 
>>> happy new year to all!
>>> 
>>> angelfaraldo
>>> 
>>> On 07/01/2013, at 18:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>> 
 
 I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and 
 make
 sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
 translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex 
 before
 finalizing it.  Download here:
 
 http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
 
 Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
 release
 includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
 highlights:
 
 * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
 * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl 
 (tclpd)
 * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
 * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
 * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
 * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
 * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
 
 And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
 
 Download it here:
 http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
 
 
 Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
 https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
 
 run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
 
 
 There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
 
 * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
 
 * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
 
 * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
 
 * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
 http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Can you use ALSA or OSS?  Do the names of your Audio or Jack devices have 
accented characters é, á, etc. or ñ?

.hc

On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:

> Directly puredata.info  deb package
> 
> 
> 2013/1/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
> Hey Esteban,
> 
> Did you download the package directly from puredata.info or did you get it 
> from the eighthave/pd-extended PPA?
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> 
>> I tried the x64 version on 12.04.1 with Jack and I don't have sucess..
>> 
>> I can't out pressing ok of audio settings.. And pd won't open any patch with 
>> jack...
>> 
>> 
>> 2013/1/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> 
>> Do you mean the auto-completion plugin?  That's not included in Pd-extended 
>> at
>> the moment.  Did it work with previous releases?
>> 
>> .hc
>> 
>> On 01/07/2013 01:03 PM, Budi Prakosa wrote:
>> > auto completion doesnt works on snow leopard
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and
>> >> make
>> >> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
>> >> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex
>> >> before
>> >> finalizing it.  Download here:
>> >>
>> >> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>> >>
>> >> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This
>> >> release
>> >> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some
>> >> highlights:
>> >>
>> >> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
>> >> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl
>> >> (tclpd)
>> >> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
>> >> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
>> >> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
>> >> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
>> >> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>> >>
>> >> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>> >>
>> >> Download it here:
>> >> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
>> >> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>> >>
>> >> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
>> >> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>> >>
>> >> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
>> >>
>> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>> >>
>> >> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
>> >>
>> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>> >>
>> >> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
>> >>
>> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>> >>
>> >> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
>> >> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
>> >>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I always disable caps lock on my machine and make it an extra Ctrl key for 
reasons like this.  What do other Mac apps do?  How about TextEdit?

.hc

On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Ángel Faraldo wrote:

> I don't know if this is the thread where to post this...
> 
> I don't even know whether this is a bug or a desired behavior, 
> 
> but I find quite annoying that shortcuts (cntrl-X, cntrl-N...) don't work for 
> me when I have "caps locked" on my keyboard.
> 
> This applies to all pd-0.43 versions that I have tried, extended and vanilla.
> 
> (here: mac osx 10.6.8)
> 
> happy new year to all!
> 
> angelfaraldo
> 
> On 07/01/2013, at 18:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
>> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
>> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
>> finalizing it.  Download here:
>> 
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>> 
>> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
>> release
>> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
>> highlights:
>> 
>> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
>> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl (tclpd)
>> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
>> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
>> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
>> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
>> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>> 
>> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>> 
>> Download it here:
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>> 
>> 
>> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
>> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>> 
>> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>> 
>> 
>> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>> 
>> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>> 
>> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>> 
>> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>> 
>> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
>> 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

> On Die, 2013-01-08 at 12:14 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>> 1
>> When loading a patch in netpd on Ubuntu 12.04.1, Pd-extended immediately
>> and reliably crashes. This does not happen with any Pd 0.43 or 0.44
>> version. Also it didn't happen with earlier builds of Pd-0.43-extended,
>> though I can't exactly specify the last version that didn't crash yet
>> (I'll investigate that later). 
> 
> Ok, I got this one hunted down. The offending commit is this:
> 
> 
> commit b95886ccd619d6141a62608f11fda8999ea0a686
> Author: Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> Date:   Fri Dec 14 21:29:24 2012 -0500
> 
>place new subpatch windows near where the [pd] object was created
> 
>Use the last click location in the editor and the screen x/y position of
>the owner window to set where the new canvas toplevel window is placed.
> 
> 
> 
> The attached patch consisting of only three objects exhibits the
> problem. When creating a subpatch inside a hidden subpatch, Pd-extended
> crashes. It does not so, when the outer subpatch is visible. 
> 
> Before this commit, creating subpatches in hidden subpatches was
> perfectly legal thing to do.
> 
> Roman
> 
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solution for anyone who might be interested.

.hc



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:06 AM, oscar santis wrote:

> 
> 
> 2013/1/8 
> Re: [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1:
>   last chance to report your bugs
> 
> Pd-extended 0.43.4 rc 07/01/2013 crashes when I load a patch with 
> unauthorized's grid. This thing don't happens in previous beta version 
> running on Ubuntustudio 12.04
> Cheers


Why do you think [grid] is causing the crash?
What OS are you running? 
32-bit or 64-bit?

Can you include the patch?

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On Die, 2013-01-08 at 15:13 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Die, 2013-01-08 at 12:14 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> > 3)
> > When loading a patch in the Pd-extended release candidate, the memory
> > footprint is approximately three times higher than loading the same
> > patch with Pd 0.43.3 vanilla. For a patch that eats 200 MB of memory in
> > Pd-vanilla, this means 600 MB memory usage in the current Pd-extended.
> > 
> > The patch I used to measure the memory footprint does not use a lot of
> > tables but contains many instances of abstractions and nested
> > abstractions.  
> > 
> > My impression is that there wasn't such a huge difference with earlier
> > builds of Pd-0.43-extended, though I don't have any data to confirm
> > this. I'll check that when I found a version that does not exhibit the
> > problems 1) and 2) and see whether the situation is different there. 
> > 
> > The difference in memory footprints seems consistent across operating
> > systems, at least between Ubuntu 12.04.1 and Windows XP (both i386).  
> 
> It appears the difference is not specific to recent version of
> Pd-extended. I tried a version from May 2012 and it also uses 3 times
> more memory for the same patch than Pd-vanilla. 
> 
> It seems this isn't a release critical issue for most people. However, I
> still wonder where this difference does come from.

The 3-fold difference seems specific to the patch I tested with [1]. I
made a test patch containing many abstractions consisting of a few
vanilla objects and there isn't any noticeable difference.

[1] sonoplanes.pd from https://github.com/reduzent/sonoplanes

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Ángel Faraldo]

I don't know if this is the thread where to post this...

I don't even know whether this is a bug or a desired behavior, 

but I find quite annoying that shortcuts (cntrl-X, cntrl-N...) don't work for 
me when I have "caps locked" on my keyboard.

This applies to all pd-0.43 versions that I have tried, extended and vanilla.

(here: mac osx 10.6.8)

happy new year to all!

angelfaraldo

On 07/01/2013, at 18:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

> 
> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
> finalizing it.  Download here:
> 
> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
> 
> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This release
> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
> highlights:
> 
> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl (tclpd)
> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
> 
> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
> 
> Download it here:
> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
> 
> 
> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
> 
> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
> 
> 
> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
> 
> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
> 
> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
> 
> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
> 
> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Roman Haefeli]

On Die, 2013-01-08 at 12:14 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> 3)
> When loading a patch in the Pd-extended release candidate, the memory
> footprint is approximately three times higher than loading the same
> patch with Pd 0.43.3 vanilla. For a patch that eats 200 MB of memory in
> Pd-vanilla, this means 600 MB memory usage in the current Pd-extended.
> 
> The patch I used to measure the memory footprint does not use a lot of
> tables but contains many instances of abstractions and nested
> abstractions.  
> 
> My impression is that there wasn't such a huge difference with earlier
> builds of Pd-0.43-extended, though I don't have any data to confirm
> this. I'll check that when I found a version that does not exhibit the
> problems 1) and 2) and see whether the situation is different there. 
> 
> The difference in memory footprints seems consistent across operating
> systems, at least between Ubuntu 12.04.1 and Windows XP (both i386).  

It appears the difference is not specific to recent version of
Pd-extended. I tried a version from May 2012 and it also uses 3 times
more memory for the same patch than Pd-vanilla. 

It seems this isn't a release critical issue for most people. However, I
still wonder where this difference does come from.

Roman



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Roman Haefeli]

On Die, 2013-01-08 at 12:14 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> 1
> When loading a patch in netpd on Ubuntu 12.04.1, Pd-extended immediately
> and reliably crashes. This does not happen with any Pd 0.43 or 0.44
> version. Also it didn't happen with earlier builds of Pd-0.43-extended,
> though I can't exactly specify the last version that didn't crash yet
> (I'll investigate that later). 

Ok, I got this one hunted down. The offending commit is this:


commit b95886ccd619d6141a62608f11fda8999ea0a686
Author: Hans-Christoph Steiner 
Date:   Fri Dec 14 21:29:24 2012 -0500

place new subpatch windows near where the [pd] object was created

Use the last click location in the editor and the screen x/y position of
the owner window to set where the new canvas toplevel window is placed.



The attached patch consisting of only three objects exhibits the
problem. When creating a subpatch inside a hidden subpatch, Pd-extended
crashes. It does not so, when the outer subpatch is visible. 

Before this commit, creating subpatches in hidden subpatches was
perfectly legal thing to do.

Roman

#N canvas 63 172 596 107 10;
#X msg 11 13 obj 10 10 pd inner;
#X obj 11 39 s pd-outer;
#N canvas 927 357 272 428 outer 0;
#X restore 10 64 pd outer;
#X text 132 12 <- click message to crash Pd-0.43.4-extended > 2012-12-14
;
#X connect 0 0 1 0;
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Roman Haefeli]

On Die, 2013-01-08 at 13:23 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Die, 2013-01-08 at 12:27 +0100, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
> > On 08/01/2013 12:14, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> > > Hi Hans
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 12:32 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> > >> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and 
> > >> make
> > >> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
> > >> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex 
> > >> before
> > >> finalizing it.  Download here:
> > > (...)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2))
> > > On  Windows, Pd-extended immediately crashes when loading the patch
> > > netpd/chat.pd [1]. This happens on my Windows XP Pro Virtualbox VM. I
> > > didn't have the chance to test that on a physical Windows XP|7|8 machine
> > > yet. This didn't happen with earlier builds of Pd-0.43-extended, though
> > > I stil have to investigate the last working version.
> > >
> > > [1] from https://github.com/reduzent/netpd2/archive/master.zip
> > 
> > Just tested on Windows7 (64bit OS) and it does start.
> 
> Oh, thanks for testing. Glad to hear that. Something is weird with my
> Windows XP regarding Pd, I suppose. Let's skip this report, then. One
> issue less.

BTW: Pierre-Olivier helped me testing on Windows 7 (64bit) with the
release candidate and problem 1) is exactly the same as on Ubuntu
12.04.1

Roman


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Roman Haefeli]

On Die, 2013-01-08 at 12:27 +0100, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
> On 08/01/2013 12:14, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> > Hi Hans
> >
> > On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 12:32 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> >> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and 
> >> make
> >> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
> >> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex 
> >> before
> >> finalizing it.  Download here:
> > (...)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2))
> > On  Windows, Pd-extended immediately crashes when loading the patch
> > netpd/chat.pd [1]. This happens on my Windows XP Pro Virtualbox VM. I
> > didn't have the chance to test that on a physical Windows XP|7|8 machine
> > yet. This didn't happen with earlier builds of Pd-0.43-extended, though
> > I stil have to investigate the last working version.
> >
> > [1] from https://github.com/reduzent/netpd2/archive/master.zip
> 
> Just tested on Windows7 (64bit OS) and it does start.

Oh, thanks for testing. Glad to hear that. Something is weird with my
Windows XP regarding Pd, I suppose. Let's skip this report, then. One
issue less.

Roman





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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Pierre-Olivier Boulant]

On 08/01/2013 12:14, Roman Haefeli wrote:

Hi Hans

On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 12:32 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
finalizing it.  Download here:

(...)




2))
On  Windows, Pd-extended immediately crashes when loading the patch
netpd/chat.pd [1]. This happens on my Windows XP Pro Virtualbox VM. I
didn't have the chance to test that on a physical Windows XP|7|8 machine
yet. This didn't happen with earlier builds of Pd-0.43-extended, though
I stil have to investigate the last working version.

[1] from https://github.com/reduzent/netpd2/archive/master.zip


Just tested on Windows7 (64bit OS) and it does start.

pob

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Roman Haefeli]

Hi Hans

On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 12:32 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
> finalizing it.  Download here:

Thanks a lot for your efforts. I noticed quite a huge amount of work
went into that version and many goals have been achieved. Thanks to
anyone involved.

Unfortunately, I've run into a couple of problems when running some of
my patches in the release candidate version
Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130107. 



1
When loading a patch in netpd on Ubuntu 12.04.1, Pd-extended immediately
and reliably crashes. This does not happen with any Pd 0.43 or 0.44
version. Also it didn't happen with earlier builds of Pd-0.43-extended,
though I can't exactly specify the last version that didn't crash yet
(I'll investigate that later). 

Steps to reproduce: 
* Start pd-extended
* Load netpd/chat.pd
* click on 'unpatch' in chat.pd to launch unpatch
* load a netpd-patch from netpd/patches (click on 'netload patch')

This is the backtrace from Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130107 on Ubuntu 12.04.1
(i386):
--- Backtrace ---
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x0805933a in subcanvas_new (s=0x86ae438) at g_canvas.c:942
942 g_canvas.c: No such file or directory.
(gdb) backtrace
#0  0x0805933a in subcanvas_new (s=0x86ae438) at g_canvas.c:942
#1  0x0807e4ba in pd_typedmess (x=0x80e033c, s=0x80e9c58, argc=, 
argv=0xbfffd144) at m_class.c:795
#2  0x0808455e in binbuf_eval (x=0x8585fb0, target=0x80e033c, argc=1, 
argv=0x869dba0) at m_binbuf.c:767
#3  0x0805e545 in canvas_objtext (gl=0x86b3740, xpix=10, ypix=20, selected=0, 
b=0x8585fb0) at g_text.c:96
#4  0x0805f9f5 in canvas_obj (gl=0x86b3740, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c)
at g_text.c:193
#5  0x0807e232 in pd_typedmess (x=0x86b3740, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c)
at m_class.c:719
#6  0x0807e0fd in pd_typedmess (x=0x86ae0d8, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c)
at m_class.c:816
#7  0x0807f7af in outlet_anything (x=0x86ae858, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c) at m_obj.c:470
#8  0x080a1b4e in trigger_anything (x=0x86ae800, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c) at x_connective.c:1013
#9  0x0807e0fd in pd_typedmess (x=0x86ae800, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c)
at m_class.c:816
#10 0x0807f7af in outlet_anything (x=0x86ae750, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c) at m_obj.c:470
#11 0x0807e0fd in pd_typedmess (x=0x86ae73c, s=0x80e9968, argc=4, 
argv=0xbfffd55c)
at m_class.c:816
#12 0x0808455e in binbuf_eval (x=0x86ae768, target=0x86ae73c, argc=3, 
argv=0xbfffd5e0) at m_binbuf.c:767
#13 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86ae448, s=0x80d9be0, argc=3, 
argv=0xbfffd5e0)
at m_obj.c:459
#14 0x009501cc in list_append_list (x=0x86ae408, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffd710) at list.c:240
#15 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86ae3a8, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffd710)
at m_obj.c:459
#16 0x009501cc in list_append_list (x=0x86ae360, s=0x0, argc=1, argv=0xbfffd800)
at list.c:240
#17 0x0807d382 in pd_defaultfloat (x=0x86ae360, f=20) at m_class.c:73
#18 0x0807f5b7 in outlet_float (x=0x86ae2f8, f=20) at m_obj.c:425
#19 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86ae278, s=0x80d9be0, argc=1, 
argv=0xbfffd8b8)
at m_obj.c:459
#20 0x080a25b2 in trigger_list (x=0x86ae238, s=0x0, argc=1, argv=0xbfffd8b8)
at x_connective.c:1000
#21 0x080a2697 in trigger_float (x=0x86ae238, f=1) at x_connective.c:1034
#22 0x0807f5b7 in outlet_float (x=0x86ae1d0, f=1) at m_obj.c:425
#23 0x0807f5b7 in outlet_float (x=0x86ae148, f=0) at m_obj.c:425
#24 0x080a12d9 in pdfloat_bang (x=0x86ae120) at x_connective.c:80
#25 0x0807f4b3 in outlet_bang (x=0x86ae688) at m_obj.c:399
#26 0x080a1420 in until_float (x=0x86ae640, f=)
at x_connective.c:1190
#27 0x0807f5b7 in outlet_float (x=0x86ae608, f=1) at m_obj.c:425
#28 0x0807f5b7 in outlet_float (x=0x86ae4c8, f=1) at m_obj.c:425
#29 0x0807f5b7 in outlet_float (x=0x86ae530, f=1) at m_obj.c:425
#30 0x08084597 in binbuf_eval (x=0x86ae490, target=0x86ae51c, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4) at m_binbuf.c:770
#31 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86ae068, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4)
at m_obj.c:459
#32 0x080a25b2 in trigger_list (x=0x86ae010, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4)
at x_connective.c:1000
#33 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86b1400, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4)
at m_obj.c:459
#34 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86a92a8, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4)
at m_obj.c:459
#35 0x080a25b2 in trigger_list (x=0x86a9248, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4)
at x_connective.c:1000
#36 0x0807f71f in outlet_list (x=0x86a91b8, s=0x80d9be0, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfffdbd4)
at m_obj.c:459
#37 0x08084228 in binbuf_eval (x=0x86a9128, target=0x86a91a4, argc=2, 

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>> Hmm, this I've never seen happen.  Does it happen in English mode too? Do any
>> of the names of your Audio or MIDI devices have non-latin or Japanese
>> characters in them?
> 
> Language difference could be a cause. Because in MIDI setting window,
> Apple's default "IAC driver" should be appeared but it is indicated as
> blank. (see attached file.)
> "driver" is translated in Japanese.
> Also some audio interface have Japanese character names.
> I will try it under English mode later.

I have 10.6, and when I switch to Japanese, the IAC driver is still in English. 
 They must have added those translations in 10.7.  Can you run this command to 
start Pd in your Terminal when in Japanese mode and send me the result?  You 
can Copy and Paste everything starting from the command it into a text file and 
attach that.  Once Pd launches, go to Media->Audio Settings, and Media->MIDI 
Settings. If it crashes, then you'll probably need to do Audio and MIDI 
separately.

/Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr 
-d 3 -nostartup -noprefs

The command needs to be a single line, and you'll have to change the date in 
the Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app to match what you have.  For example, this 
is what I get when I do that:


$ /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd 
-stderr -d 3 -nostartup -noprefs
StartNotification name = default 
set pd_whichmidiapi 4
set ::tmp_path {}
set ::sys_searchpath $::tmp_path
set ::tmp_path {}
lappend ::tmp_path {/Users/hans/Library/Pd}
lappend ::tmp_path {/Library/Pd}
lappend ::tmp_path 
{/Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130104.app/Contents/Resources/extra}
set ::sys_staticpath $::tmp_path
set ::startup_flags {}
set ::startup_libraries {}
pdtk_pd_startup 0 43 4 {extended-20130104} { {portaudio 4} {jack 5} } {} 
{Monaco} normal
set pd_whichmidiapi 4
set pd_whichapi 4
pd init /Volumes/share/code/pd-extended.git 0 
8 5 11
9 6 12
10 6 13
12 7 16
14 8 17
16 10 19
18 11 22
24 14 29
30 18 37
36 22 44
;

pd autopatch 0;

pd autopatch 0;

pd audio-properties;
global audio_indevlist; set audio_indevlist {}
lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Microphone}
lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Built-in Input}
lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
lappend audio_indevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {}
lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Built-in Output}
lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (2ch)}
lappend audio_outdevlist {(0)Soundflower (16ch)}
pdtk_audio_dialog .gfxstub4f34080 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 44100 20 1 0 
0 64




.hc
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

At this late in the release cycle, it would take a serious bug for me to
update the included Gem.  But don't fret, you can get nightly builds of Gem
and put them in ~/Library/Pd and Pd-extended 0.43.4 will use that one over the
built-in one.  Or you could even grab the old Gem from Pd-extended 0.42.5 and
put it into ~/Library/Pd:

cp -a /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/Gem ~/Library/Pd

As for getting VLC to be part of those builds, VLC is installed on the Mac OS
X 10.6 64-bi build machine, and I could install it on the 10.5 32-bit build
machine too.  Gem just needs its ./configure to check for VLC in
/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS:

./configure \
   --with-libvlc-includes=/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/include/ \
   --with-libvlc-libs=/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/lib

I set up a job on the Jenkins build server, hopefully it'll work, then you'll
be able to just grab the VLC plugin:
https://macosx105-i386.pdlab.puredata.info/job/Gem-fink-VLC

.hc

On 01/07/2013 10:01 PM, Joson Android wrote:
> ok last chance.
> 
> the performance of GEM (93.3 included in latest autobuild) with 4 movies 
> playback via [pix_film] at the same time is still not as good as in 
> 42.5-extended.
> Is it possible to include VLC-plugin backend in the compiled extended version 
> for osx i386? I would so much love that, can't get it compiled myself..
> 
> thank you all for this beautiful program
> 
> Jonas
> 
> Am 07.01.2013 um 19:03 schrieb Budi Prakosa:
> 
>> auto completion doesnt works on snow leopard
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
>> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
>> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
>> finalizing it.  Download here:
>>
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>
>> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
>> release
>> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
>> highlights:
>>
>> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
>> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl (tclpd)
>> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
>> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
>> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
>> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
>> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>>
>> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>>
>> Download it here:
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>
>>
>> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
>> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>>
>> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>>
>>
>> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>>
>> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
>>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Seiichiro MATSUMURA]

Hi,

> Hmm, this I've never seen happen.  Does it happen in English mode too? Do any
> of the names of your Audio or MIDI devices have non-latin or Japanese
> characters in them?

Language difference could be a cause. Because in MIDI setting window,
Apple's default "IAC driver" should be appeared but it is indicated as
blank. (see attached file.)
"driver" is translated in Japanese.
Also some audio interface have Japanese character names.
I will try it under English mode later.

Best,

Sei


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2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
> On 01/07/2013 10:01 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>> Hi HC,
>>
>> On Mac OSX（10.7 Lion）, "Audio setting" and "MIDI setting" under
>> "Media" menu are still buggy.
>> I often have freeze Pd when I change settings and I need to restart Pd.
>
> Hmm, this I've never seen happen.  Does it happen in English mode too? Do any
> of the names of your Audio or MIDI devices have non-latin or Japanese
> characters in them?
>
>> This is just another question.
>> What is the difference between "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" and "Edit
>> mode(Cmd+E)" under "Edit" menu?
>> I can't understand the specific function of "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" added.
>
> They do the same thing, but Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E) is an experiment about
> whether it makes sense to have a standard set of editing key commands that all
> have shift in them:
>
> Autopatch   shift+Cmd+A
> Edit mode   shift+Cmd+E
> Magic Glass shift+Cmd+G
> Perf Mode   shift+Cmd+P
> AutoTipsshift+Cmd+T
>
> .hc
>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Sei Matsumura
>>
>>
>> --
>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
>> Seiichiro Matsumura
>>
>> s...@low-tech-ism.com
>> http://low-tech-ism.com/
>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>>>
>>> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
>>> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
>>> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex 
>>> before
>>> finalizing it.  Download here:
>>>
>>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>>
>>> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
>>> release
>>> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
>>> highlights:
>>>
>>> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
>>> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl 
>>> (tclpd)
>>> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
>>> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
>>> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
>>> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
>>> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>>>
>>> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>>>
>>> Download it here:
>>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>>
>>>
>>> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
>>> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>>>
>>> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
>>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>>>
>>>
>>> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>>>
>>> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>>
>>> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Seiichiro MATSUMURA]

Hi,

In addition, Windows(8) doesn't have problems with "Audio setting" and
"MIDI setting".

Best,

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2013/1/8 Seiichiro MATSUMURA :
> Hi HC,
>
> On Mac OSX（10.7 Lion）, "Audio setting" and "MIDI setting" under
> "Media" menu are still buggy.
> I often have freeze Pd when I change settings and I need to restart Pd.
>
> This is just another question.
> What is the difference between "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" and "Edit
> mode(Cmd+E)" under "Edit" menu?
> I can't understand the specific function of "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" added.
>
> Best,
>
> Sei Matsumura
>
>
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> 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>>
>> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
>> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
>> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
>> finalizing it.  Download here:
>>
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>
>> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
>> release
>> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
>> highlights:
>>
>> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
>> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl (tclpd)
>> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
>> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
>> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
>> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
>> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>>
>> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>>
>> Download it here:
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>
>>
>> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
>> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>>
>> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>>
>>
>> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>>
>> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
>>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On 01/07/2013 10:01 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
> Hi HC,
> 
> On Mac OSX（10.7 Lion）, "Audio setting" and "MIDI setting" under
> "Media" menu are still buggy.
> I often have freeze Pd when I change settings and I need to restart Pd.

Hmm, this I've never seen happen.  Does it happen in English mode too? Do any
of the names of your Audio or MIDI devices have non-latin or Japanese
characters in them?

> This is just another question.
> What is the difference between "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" and "Edit
> mode(Cmd+E)" under "Edit" menu?
> I can't understand the specific function of "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" added.

They do the same thing, but Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E) is an experiment about
whether it makes sense to have a standard set of editing key commands that all
have shift in them:

Autopatch   shift+Cmd+A
Edit mode   shift+Cmd+E
Magic Glass shift+Cmd+G
Perf Mode   shift+Cmd+P
AutoTipsshift+Cmd+T

.hc

> 
> Best,
> 
> Sei Matsumura
> 
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> 2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>>
>> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
>> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
>> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
>> finalizing it.  Download here:
>>
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>
>> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This 
>> release
>> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
>> highlights:
>>
>> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
>> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl (tclpd)
>> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
>> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
>> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
>> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
>> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>>
>> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>>
>> Download it here:
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>
>>
>> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
>> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>>
>> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>>
>>
>> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>>
>> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
>>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Joson Android]

ok last chance.

the performance of GEM (93.3 included in latest autobuild) with 4 movies 
playback via [pix_film] at the same time is still not as good as in 
42.5-extended.
Is it possible to include VLC-plugin backend in the compiled extended version 
for osx i386? I would so much love that, can't get it compiled myself..

thank you all for this beautiful program

Jonas

Am 07.01.2013 um 19:03 schrieb Budi Prakosa:

> auto completion doesnt works on snow leopard
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:
> 
> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
> finalizing it.  Download here:
> 
> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
> 
> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This release
> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
> highlights:
> 
> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl (tclpd)
> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
> 
> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
> 
> Download it here:
> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
> 
> 
> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
> 
> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
> 
> 
> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
> 
> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
> 
> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
> 
> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
> 
> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Seiichiro MATSUMURA]

Hi HC,

On Mac OSX（10.7 Lion）, "Audio setting" and "MIDI setting" under
"Media" menu are still buggy.
I often have freeze Pd when I change settings and I need to restart Pd.

This is just another question.
What is the difference between "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" and "Edit
mode(Cmd+E)" under "Edit" menu?
I can't understand the specific function of "Edit mode(shift+Cmd+E)" added.

Best,

Sei Matsumura


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2013/1/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner :
>
> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
> finalizing it.  Download here:
>
> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>
> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This release
> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some 
> highlights:
>
> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl (tclpd)
> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>
> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>
> Download it here:
> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>
>
> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>
> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>
>
> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>
> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>
> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>
> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>
> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On 01/07/2013 07:51 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
> 
> hello, I'd like to report again a problem that is still not resolved in this 
> release...
> 
> On win32, I've got many pd patches that makes the GUI not working with mouse 
> binding, 
> I can not move any object on the patch, only the arrows can make it move when 
> it's selected.
> 
> It's still hard to tell where does it come from without passing hours 
> opening, modifying, 
> closing, and opening again patches that makes pd GUI doing this, maybe one 
> day...


Yeah, that's a tough one.  Is this something that you have reported before,
like in a bug report in the tracker?  Do you get any error messages when it
happens?

I've seen bugs like this in the past, I think we've fixed some of them, but I
wouldn't be surprised if there are still some out there.

.hc

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Patrice Colet]

hello, I'd like to report again a problem that is still not resolved in this 
release...

On win32, I've got many pd patches that makes the GUI not working with mouse 
binding, 
I can not move any object on the patch, only the arrows can make it move when 
it's selected.

It's still hard to tell where does it come from without passing hours opening, 
modifying, 
closing, and opening again patches that makes pd GUI doing this, maybe one 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Hey Esteban,

Did you download the package directly from puredata.info or did you get it from 
the eighthave/pd-extended PPA?

.hc

On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:

> I tried the x64 version on 12.04.1 with Jack and I don't have sucess..
> 
> I can't out pressing ok of audio settings.. And pd won't open any patch with 
> jack...
> 
> 
> 2013/1/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> 
> Do you mean the auto-completion plugin?  That's not included in Pd-extended at
> the moment.  Did it work with previous releases?
> 
> .hc
> 
> On 01/07/2013 01:03 PM, Budi Prakosa wrote:
> > auto completion doesnt works on snow leopard
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and
> >> make
> >> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
> >> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex
> >> before
> >> finalizing it.  Download here:
> >>
> >> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
> >>
> >> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This
> >> release
> >> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some
> >> highlights:
> >>
> >> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
> >> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl
> >> (tclpd)
> >> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
> >> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
> >> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
> >> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
> >> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
> >>
> >> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
> >>
> >> Download it here:
> >> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
> >>
> >>
> >> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
> >> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
> >>
> >> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
> >> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
> >>
> >>
> >> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
> >>
> >> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
> >>
> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
> >>
> >> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
> >>
> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
> >>
> >> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
> >>
> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
> >>
> >> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
> >> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Do you mean the auto-completion plugin?  That's not included in Pd-extended at
the moment.  Did it work with previous releases?

.hc

On 01/07/2013 01:03 PM, Budi Prakosa wrote:
> auto completion doesnt works on snow leopard
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
>>
>> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and
>> make
>> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
>> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex
>> before
>> finalizing it.  Download here:
>>
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>
>> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This
>> release
>> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some
>> highlights:
>>
>> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
>> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl
>> (tclpd)
>> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
>> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
>> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
>> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
>> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>>
>> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>>
>> Download it here:
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>
>>
>> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
>> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>>
>> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>>
>>
>> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>>
>> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>>
>> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
>>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Pierre-Olivier Boulant]

The file where the object names are stored is damaged. All the spaces 
are gone between the object names. It's just a really long word.

Same issue with Windows.


On 07/01/2013 19:03, Budi Prakosa wrote:

auto completion doesnt works on snow leopard


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote:



I think this is the final release, last chance to test your
patches and make
sure everything is working well in this release.  Also,
double-check the
translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from
Transifex before
finalizing it.  Download here:

http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4

Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!
 This release
includes the most new features of any release before, here are
some highlights:

* complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
* loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and
Tcl (tclpd)
* new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
* GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
* full Unicode support, write patches in any language
* fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
* Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens

And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Download it here:
http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4


Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/


run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended


There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:

* Windows command line args don't work with unicode

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070

* [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070

* Right-click menu causes CPU spike

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070

* specific kinds of "GUI overload"
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Budi Prakosa]

auto completion doesnt works on snow leopard


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

>
> I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and
> make
> sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
> translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex
> before
> finalizing it.  Download here:
>
> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>
> Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This
> release
> includes the most new features of any release before, here are some
> highlights:
>
> * complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
> * loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl
> (tclpd)
> * new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
> * GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
> * full Unicode support, write patches in any language
> * fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
> * Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens
>
> And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>
> Download it here:
> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>
>
> Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
> https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/
>
> run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
>
>
> There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:
>
> * Windows command line args don't work with unicode
>
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>
> * [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
>
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>
> * Right-click menu causes CPU spike
>
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070
>
> * specific kinds of "GUI overload"
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html
>
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[PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 release candidate 1: last chance to report your bugs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I think this is the final release, last chance to test your patches and make
sure everything is working well in this release.  Also, double-check the
translations.  I'll do one final import of translations from Transifex before
finalizing it.  Download here:

http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4

Its been a long time coming, but its finally reached completion!  This release
includes the most new features of any release before, here are some highlights:

* complete help search: search all installed docs (Help->Search)
* loaders: you can now write native Pd objects in Lua (pdlua) and Tcl (tclpd)
* new libraries: log, iemguts, mediasettings, pduino, syslog
* GUI plugins: customize your editing experience
* full Unicode support, write patches in any language
* fully translatable GUI, with many languages already included
* Magic Glass to see what's going through connections as it happens

And much more: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Download it here:
http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4


Or if you are using Ubuntu/Mint, you can use the PPA:
https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/

run these commands in the Terminal to add this PPA to your system:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended


There are some bugs that will have to wait until the next release:

* Windows command line args don't work with unicode
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3595309&group_id=55736&atid=478070

* [initbang] worked with GUI objs in 0.42 but not in 0.43
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3599058&group_id=55736&atid=478070

* Right-click menu causes CPU spike
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3525646&group_id=55736&atid=478070

* specific kinds of "GUI overload"
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2012-12/099534.html



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