Re: FS: Pentax MZ-5n w/28-70 +goodies
on 3/23/01 5:36 PM, gwlad gwlad at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Im willing to stop the auction if there are no bids and you're interested. Hello, If you have not arranged to sell it to someone already, I could be interested in taking it. I am assuming that $400.00 is a "buy-it-now" price. I live in GTA. Pls advise. Cheers, Ken - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What's the good or bad word on the M-85 F2.0??
At 12:00 PM 3/22/2001 -0500, Paul wrote: >I suppose the only reason it still commands such a high price is that the >other 85s are so damn costly.If you want to kill two birds with one stone, >might I suggest you do as I did: Get a 100 or 105mm macro! These nearly >always can serve as sharp portrait lenses. Good suggestion. I also was unhappy with the M-85 F2.0 lens. Alternately also look at the 80mm Tamron macro lenses. The optics are first rate, with good construction, they did make a K-a Adaptor. Local swapmeets frequently have these used lenses for around $100--plus haggling for the Adaptor. --Plus you should fit a good lens shade for outdoor sunlight shots. About a year ago, I did some hand-held comparison shots with a friend, manual identical exposures, portraits. Fuji ASA 400 slide film, side by side. I used his 80mm Tamron on my ZX-10; he used my new 77mm Limited lens on his ZX-5n.. Most exposures were f/4 to f/11. Identical processing. Yes, there were some minor differences in the images, but we could only agree that both lenses were excellent. I do think that the 77mmLimited lens handled & looked better. But he saved $600! --George Stanley, Studio City, Ca., USA. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
fun at the photo garage sale
Hi, Had fun at a photo garage sale today. Got to meet a couple of real nice Pentaxer's, one who lurks on occasion on this list. He bought an absolute pristine K135/2.5 with dedicated hood for $100. My good deal of the day (which this gentleman was instrumental in helping me out with) was a very clean M85/2 with hood, case and caps also for $100. Looking forward to comparing it to my K105/2.8 (yeah I got a feeling that it won't compare so well, yet most of the folks on the list that have it, like it, so I think that it will fill a niche). I also picked up a Super Program with an A50/1.7 without a mark on it (plastic still on the bottom) for $150. I bought this for my daughter who is becoming interested in photograpy (she's 9). When we got home, and she was comparing it to some of my cameras, she decided she liked my ZX-M better (go figure) so I ended up trading her. Actually, I think that the ZX-M's layout would probably be easier to learn on. Anyway, I'm not to upset about the swap. Anyway, it was a good day here. William in Utah. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OL Re: OT:Definitely a horror tale...
How about: "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals; I'm a vegetarian because I hate plants." Wish I remembered who said it! Mark vegetarian, BTW ;) Chris Brogden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Brought to mind a cute phrase I've heard: "Vegetables are not >food; vegetables are what food eats." - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax wish list
"Collin Brendemuehl" said: > Seriously, a little retro. >some leaf shutter lenses on 35mm (hey, this is a "wish" list!) 645 or 67 LS on an adapter maybe? Those adapters have to be good for something... Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina Repairs
Five or six years ago I sent one of my Tokina lenses in for minor repairs. The work was done fast the lens was given a general cleaning. I cannot address price as it was a warranty repair. George Baumgardner - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT OL Re: OT:Definitely a horror tale...
Brought to mind a cute phrase I've heard: "Vegetables are not food; vegetables are what food eats." :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina Repairs
I used it under warranty - they were extremely accomodating. I cannot address the repair success; my lens was simply replaced. This was at THK photo products. - Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 2:41 PM Subject: Tokina Repairs > My Tokina 400 f5.6 seems to have developed a stuck aperture - stuck wide > open! I want to make sure it is repaired at a reputable place (I had > another lens with a stuck aperture come back from a local shop with oil and > deep scratches on the rear element.) > > Tokina has a repair service - has anyone ever used it? > > Thanks > > - MCC > - - - - - - - - - - > Mark Cassino > Kalamazoo, MI > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - - - - - - - - - - > Photos: > http://www.markcassino.com > - - - - - - - - - - > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: (Over?) lubrication of A 50/2.8 Macro helicoid
Brian, I think you put your finger on the problem. What harshness in the focusing mechanism was that grease added to cover-up? Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Thanks for your replies. I suppose I'll try to clean the lens up, and see how it works. If it has problems, perhaps I can describe it on eBay as "exceptionally smooth focusing" and make a killing. >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: (Over?) lubrication of A 50/2.8 Macro helicoid
Bob S. provided this helpful response to my "How much grease should be in there, anyway?" query: >I cranked the lens out and looked inside. I can see the helicoil but no >grease on mine...maybe a little bit on one of the groves at the very back. >I stuck my finger in and touched the helicoil. It came out dry, no grease. >I have had the lubricant in a 28mm smear the lens when I left it in a hot >car (never a good idea). Otherwise, I can't imagine what good purpose >that grease is serving. What does the local repairman say? I just opened the package, and I haven't had time to do much more than look at all that grease, and contemplate the tragedy of blowing a big time shot by getting too close to Elvis's pompadour: Just a single, grease-smeared shot of what looks more like a sneering Kurt Russel. (My shot of the Yeti's tonsils was ruined when the elusive creature rather forcefully exhaled on my lens, but at least the ice crystals melted off without the aid of powerful organic solvents. I suppose the the extra working distance of the 200/4 macro might provide some protection from such environmental hazards, but the A 50/2.8 macro seemed, well, so much more affordable.) Todd Stanley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) eased my pain a bit by stating that his macro lens, at least, has some goop in it, too--though none on the glass. . . Thanks for your replies. I suppose I'll try to clean the lens up, and see how it works. If it has problems, perhaps I can describe it on eBay as "exceptionally smooth focusing" and make a killing. Brian Walsh - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax wish list
You can add 300mm f/4 as I have one. It is manual but is very sharp. - Original Message - From: "Clive Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 4:31 PM Subject: Pentax wish list > I'd ask for a 'neo-M series' of prime lenses. The Limiteds are nice but > expensive; the likes of the FA*24/2 are bulky and expensive, and not > everyone needs such wide apertures. Some of these already exist, but > how about a series that went something like: > 20mm f/4 > 24mm f/2.8 > 28mm f/2.8 > 35mm f/2.8 > 50mm f/1.7 > 85mm f/2.8 > 200mm f/4? > > It might enable Pentax to reinvent itself as the true home of the > knowledgeable amateur, whose pockets do not bulge with cash but who > wants good, simple lenses that don't need a trolley to carry them > about. The FA 35/2 could be the model for these, as an AF lens that > focuses nicely on a MF camera. > > I'm no marketing professional, which is perhaps why my employer is still > in business, but I see no future for Pentax in the > I-Want-What-the-Pros-Use market. (I know that issue's been well covered > already.) No problem - a Canon or a Nikon has more buttons on it and is > bigger and more imposing, so that's what they buy. Others choose a > Canon or a Nikon because they like what those cameras and/or lenses can > do, so fair enough. You don't have to watch this list for long to > realize that Pentax owners keep the faith because of the lenses, but how > many of us scour magazine ads and Ebay listings for M- and A-series > lenses because we can't get new equivalents? I know I do: I bought an > FA 35/2 and an FA 100/3.5 new because they were both available and > affordable. My other lenses are secondhand buys, and while it's to > Pentax's credit that it made so many fine lenses that have lasted so > well, I think there's pent-up (sorry!) demand here for new equivalents > to those compact, affordable classics. I'd pay $250 for a new FA 24/2.8 > tomorrow, given the chance. > > Of course, if there was a neo-LX (presumably LXXXI now) to go with the > lenses, so much the better. > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Swan Song Photo!
Peter wrote: "This is a copy of a post from a few weeks ago - I re-send it because it is relevant to what Todd was saying to Tania about using K mount lenses on an MZ50. Note this is by Erwin Vereecken not myself. I think it's quite clever though. Just thinking of something, > > If you put your M50 f1.7 on your MZ-50, for more then just one occasional > shot, you could do the following: > > Manually select an ISO speed of 2 and 2/3 stops lower then reality (ISO16 > for and ISO100film, ISO 32 for a 200film, etc..) > > With the camera on manual, the light meter will now show you > which diaphragm > to select. The middle of the meter range will be f4.0, one higher > f5.6, one > lower f2.8 etc, all the way from f1.4(which you don't have) to f11, > including the half stops. > > Should work fairly quick, withouth calculations. > > There is a theoretical 1/6 stop overexposure, but that should'nt have a > visible influence on the result. If you think your camera has a > tendency to > overexpose anyway, lower ISO speed by 2 and 1/3 stop, that will give a > theoretical underexposure of 1/6 stop. > > It's not real easy, because if you would have several manual lenses, you > would have to change ISO everytime you change lens, f.i. for a f2.8, lens > ISO would have to be lowered 1 stop to keep f4 in the midle, and if you > mount an automatic lens in between, you shouldn't forget to put > ISO back to > nominal." Peter thanks for your attempt to help me here, but I have only one thing to say "wwooosh!" That all just went straight over my head! Well, not really, but I am sitting here trying what Erwin suggests and I can't for rhe life of me get my meter to do anything but flash at me in any other mode except tv - no matter what ISO I set it at. I have a T400CN loaded at the moment and I am clueless here! I did notice however that you mentioned that this is for "K" mount lenses; the lens I am using is a Tamron with PKA adaptall, would this make any difference? Thanks in advance. Tanya. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax wish list
I'd ask for a 'neo-M series' of prime lenses. The Limiteds are nice but expensive; the likes of the FA*24/2 are bulky and expensive, and not everyone needs such wide apertures. Some of these already exist, but how about a series that went something like: 20mm f/4 24mm f/2.8 28mm f/2.8 35mm f/2.8 50mm f/1.7 85mm f/2.8 200mm f/4? It might enable Pentax to reinvent itself as the true home of the knowledgeable amateur, whose pockets do not bulge with cash but who wants good, simple lenses that don't need a trolley to carry them about. The FA 35/2 could be the model for these, as an AF lens that focuses nicely on a MF camera. I'm no marketing professional, which is perhaps why my employer is still in business, but I see no future for Pentax in the I-Want-What-the-Pros-Use market. (I know that issue's been well covered already.) No problem - a Canon or a Nikon has more buttons on it and is bigger and more imposing, so that's what they buy. Others choose a Canon or a Nikon because they like what those cameras and/or lenses can do, so fair enough. You don't have to watch this list for long to realize that Pentax owners keep the faith because of the lenses, but how many of us scour magazine ads and Ebay listings for M- and A-series lenses because we can't get new equivalents? I know I do: I bought an FA 35/2 and an FA 100/3.5 new because they were both available and affordable. My other lenses are secondhand buys, and while it's to Pentax's credit that it made so many fine lenses that have lasted so well, I think there's pent-up (sorry!) demand here for new equivalents to those compact, affordable classics. I'd pay $250 for a new FA 24/2.8 tomorrow, given the chance. Of course, if there was a neo-LX (presumably LXXXI now) to go with the lenses, so much the better. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Tokina Repairs
My Tokina 400 f5.6 seems to have developed a stuck aperture - stuck wide open! I want to make sure it is repaired at a reputable place (I had another lens with a stuck aperture come back from a local shop with oil and deep scratches on the rear element.) Tokina has a repair service - has anyone ever used it? Thanks - MCC - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax wish list
If you want to see one of the Steadicam systems used for filming in the big budget hollywood films rent the video of "Aliens" (the second of the Sigourney Weaver Alien flicks). The machine gun platform that the marines use is a Steadicam unit with a prop gun attached to it instead of a camera. May be the only time one of those things wasused in a film as well as appearing *in* the film! "Steve Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The big TV news stations >have those high (and I mean high) dollar gyro cameras mounted on their >helicopters, and the videos are incredible. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking of an LX
At 03:29 PM 3/24/2001 -0500, J. C. O'Connell wrote: >I'm thinking of buying an LX system and of >course know of the "sticky" mirror design flaw. >What other bugs did they never iron out of >their design over the years? > >I recall a web page describing them. Anybody got >the URL? http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/thepentaxlx.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:Definitely a horror tale...
dosk wrote: > It is probably straying too > far off topic now. Indeed, this whole thread has degenerated into repetitive, mutual silliness. So why not close it -- after add my two cents on both sides. I think McDonald's food sucks regardless of where they get their beef; I have eaten it but never by choice, only when there is nothing else to resort to. On the other hand, the McDonald's Corporation earned eternal gratitude from me (and many others I know who spend time in Russia) for providing the only clean toilets that are available to the general public in downtown Moscow. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: (Over?) lubrication of A 50/2.8 Macro helicoid
I noticed a while ago that I can see the grease in my Pheonix 100mm macro lens. I bought it new about 6 months ago. At first I was concerned but so far the grease has stayed where it should, so I don't really worry about it much anymore. Todd At 11:50 AM 3/24/01 -0800, you wrote: >I just received an A 50mm f/2.8 Macro lens "in pristine, like new >condition", according the eBay seller. I have a question regarding the >proper extent of lubrication for the focusing helicoid. > >The lens arrived in something less than the advertised condition, with a >light grease smeared on the rear element. I've never used a macro lens >before, and the ability to peek inside and see the helicoid lubrication >raised a question: What's it _supposed_ to look like in there? How much >grease should there be on the helicoid? Does it evaporate to coat the >glass surfaces over the years, or does the condition of the rear element >suggest that the "pristine, like new" lens was given (too large) a >dollop of grease just before I purchased it? > >Thanks for any input. > >Brian Walsh - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax wish list
Alberto wrote: > I'd like a couple of pro-quality zoom: > > FA* 28-70/2.8 > FA* 80-200/2.8 > > without PZ, small and compact as only pentax knows > Ah, just another lens Replace that FA* 28-70/2.8 with an FA* (II?) 24-90/2.8. A 24-90/2.8 would have been a perfect companion to the coming 18/2.8. I would rather have a 18/2.8 + 24-90/2.8 than a 28-70/2.8 + 17-35/2.8. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
24-90
Hi all! My first experience with the lens turned sour - the diaphragm stuck. I did manage to get some test shots but when I ventured out of doors this happened - the diaphragm stuck in the closed position. The lens in made in Taiwan, BTW. I was getting to like the lens but understandably I am not so sure now. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Subject: Re: Swan Song Photo!
This is a copy of a post from a few weeks ago - I re-send it because it is relevent to what Todd was saying to Tania about using K mount lenses on an MZ50. Note this is by Erwin Vereecken not myself. I think it's quite clever though. Peter > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erwin Vereecken > Sent: 16 February 2001 13:31 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: time @ f-stop formula > > > Just thinking of something, > > If you put your M50 f1.7 on your MZ-50, for more then just one occasional > shot, you could do the following: > > Manually select an ISO speed of 2 and 2/3 stops lower then reality (ISO16 > for and ISO100film, ISO 32 for a 200film, etc..) > > With the camera on manual, the light meter will now show you > which diaphragm > to select. The middle of the meter range will be f4.0, one higher > f5.6, one > lower f2.8 etc, all the way from f1.4(which you don't have) to f11, > including the half stops. > > Should work fairly quick, withouth calculations. > > There is a theoretical 1/6 stop overexposure, but that should'nt have a > visible influence on the result. If you think your camera has a > tendency to > overexpose anyway, lower ISO speed by 2 and 1/3 stop, that will give a > theoretical underexposure of 1/6 stop. > > It's not real easy, because if you would have several manual lenses, you > would have to change ISO everytime you change lens, f.i. for a f2.8, lens > ISO would have to be lowered 1 stop to keep f4 in the midle, and if you > mount an automatic lens in between, you shouldn't forget to put > ISO back to > nominal. > > > Just an idea, > > Erwin > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Stanley > Sent: 24 March 2001 18:29 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Swan Song Photo! > > > > Yep, you have the idea there. I remember someone had a way of setting the > ISO to a certain setting (depends on film and lens) and the little dots on > the light meter scale would indicate the aperture, but I forgot > the details > as I don't have a MZ-50. Anyway, good luck with combo! > > Todd > > At 07:31 PM 3/24/01 +1000, you wrote: > > > >"Todd, thankyou so much for this! I had no idea that I could > use it in TV > >mode providing that it is wide open. I almost always shoot in manual and > >hadn't even considered trying the other modes. I am so happy that I can > >now use this lens! I was quite disappointed to find that the > meter wouldn't > >work with the lens and not having a handheld meter, I had rendered it > >virtually useless on this camera! So basically, what you are > saying is that > >if I want to use it say on f5.6, then I just slow down the shutter speed > >that > >the camera advises by 21/2 stops? Makes sense now! I am renewed, I > >can use my lens, and in actual fact, it may prove beneficial to my > >learning to have to work this way for some time, as I will really have to > >think about the relationship between the f-stops and the shutter > speed. So, > >there we go, there is a silver lining after all!" > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Thinking of an LX
I'm thinking of buying an LX system and of course know of the "sticky" mirror design flaw. What other bugs did they never iron out of their design over the years? I recall a web page describing them. Anybody got the URL? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax wish list
Not to mention dynamically balanced to the gnats #ss. The big TV news stations have those high (and I mean high) dollar gyro cameras mounted on their helicopters, and the videos are incredible. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Pentax wish list > Toy gyroscope... Insufficient rotational inertia to stabilize grasshopper, > let alone a lens. A gyroscope with sufficient rotational inertia to > stabilize a lens (and attached camera) would be very, very difficult to > point. I would think a system for stabilizing a lens would incorporate a > small rate integrating gyro (a lot of precision and electronics) . Precision > servo control of one or a few small elements would be required. This is just > a guess, I haven't actually looked at any of the patents, but I will. > > Regards, > Bob... > > Give blood. Play hockey. > > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 6:50 AM > Subject: Re: Pentax wish list > > > > Collin, > > Funny you should that, I was thinking the same thing a couple of > > days ago. You used to be able to buy those toy gyroscopes, > > remember? > > Steve Larson > > Redondo Beach, California > > - Original Message - > > From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 4:42 AM > > Subject: Re: Pentax wish list > > > > > > > Anyone ever duct-taped a gyroscope to their lens just to see > > > what might happen? :-) > > > > > > Collin > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > From: Paul C > > > > -- > > -- > > > > > > -paul > > > > > > PS: An IS converter would be AWESOME, here's hopin > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Data Processing Consultation, Inc. > > > Providing Broad-Spectrum Business Solutions and Assistance > > > http://www.iol21.com/dpconsult > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Panoramic Mode
"Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked: > Also I have read in magazines that the same effect can be acheived by = > taking the usual image then cropping top and bottom followed by an = > enlargement of the remaining elongated image. Is one way better than = > the other? As others have pointed out, it's just economics. Alas, the discount doesn't seem to apply in the pro labs I use, but if I'm willing to go back to a 1-hour lab, I can get a roll of panoramic prints done at developing time for about the cost of three or four 8x10 prints. So far I have not mixed panoramic and full-frame in the same roll; I've either used a single-use panoramic camera or put a mask inside a screwmount SLR with gaffer's tape. > Finally, what other uses have list members found for the panoramic = > feature other than the "beautiful lanscape" > shots. Turn it sideways: guitars, swords, tall buildings, unusual perspectives of skinny people (really!). -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: (Over?) lubrication of A 50/2.8 Macro helicoid
Brian, I cranked the lens out and looked inside. I can see the helicoil but no grease on mine...maybe a little bit on one of the groves at the very back. I stuck my finger in and touched the helicoil. It came out dry, no grease. I have had the lubricant in a 28mm smear the lens when I left it in a hot car (never a good idea). Otherwise, I can't imagine what good purpose that grease is serving. What does the local repairman say? Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I just received an A 50mm f/2.8 Macro lens "in pristine, like new condition", according the eBay seller. I have a question regarding the proper extent of lubrication for the focusing helicoid. The lens arrived in something less than the advertised condition, with a light grease smeared on the rear element. I've never used a macro lens before, and the ability to peek inside and see the helicoid lubrication raised a question: What's it _supposed_ to look like in there? How much grease should there be on the helicoid? Does it evaporate to coat the glass surfaces over the years, or does the condition of the rear element suggest that the "pristine, like new" lens was given (too large) a dollop of grease just before I purchased it? Thanks for any input. Brian Walsh >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Sorta OT. Perusing previous photographs
I don't scan all my keepers yet (though a slide/neg scanner
might be the tool that makes that seem reasonable), but I
do keep a database. Or try to. I'm a few months behind on
data entry for frames (though the roll table is up to date).
Mark Roberts wrote:
> BTW: In my filing system I number each roll yyy### where yyy is
> the year in hexadecimal (2001 is 7d1) and ### is the roll number
> (the first roll of film I shoot each year is 001, then 002, etc.
> -- this'll be fine until I startshooting over 999 rolls of film
> per year).
I use -NNN (where, like you, NNN is a three digit
sequential number for the year so far).
> The individual photos are the roll ID followed by the frame
> number (so the first shot on the first roll of film this year
> was 7d100101.tif)
*nod* For me it was either 2001-001#01 or 2001-001#01A
depending on where the frame boundaries lined up on that
roll. (Okay, it might have been 2001-001#00 -- I can check
if anyone cares, but I don't think anyone will).
> I keep a master list of all the rolls of film I've shot (roll
> number, location(s), film type) in an Excel spreadsheet.
I've got a properly normalized database -- I've got a table for
rolls of film (type, purchase date, expiration date, location
(fridge/freezer/camera-bag/used), and purchase cost -- I call this
the "can" table); a table for exposed rolls (roll-ID as described
above, lookup into first table, date loaded, date finished, date
sent to lab, date back from lab, which lab, processing cost, number
of frames printed, subject (three subject fields, for rolls that
didn't get used up all on one thing), notes, push/pull, and camera
used -- I call this the "roll" table); a table for frames (lookup
into exposed roll table, frame #, main subject, lens/flash/filters/
/speed/aperture (blank in most entries), date shot, list of things
visible in the photo that I might want to search on in the future,
location, caption, and notes); a table of reprint requests (who
ordered it, roll/frame, size, whether I've gotten it done yet,
whether I've mailed it yet); a table of people (name, address,
email, etc. etc.); and a table of film types (so that I can enter
"TMZ" in the film table instead of "Kodak TMax p3200", and have it
look up the fact that it's BW film DX coded 3200 ASA, and the full
name to print out on labels).
I store negatives and slides in those 3-ring-binder archive
pages, labelled with roll-ID (and some other info, like
dates & subjects).
The problems?
1) Mine's in an Excel spreadsheet too (with extensive use of
vlookup() and hlookup() references). I started it in Access
because I didn't have a real DBMS available at the time, but
got frustrated with the data-entry limitations of Access and
moved it to Excel despite the performance penalty. (The spreadsheet
paradigm is convenient for entering lots of rows into the frame
table at once -- fill in the info that changes, working down a
column, then cut&paste the info that stays the same for bunches
of frames (roll-ID, date, location, subject), _then_ commit the
whole session to disk.) Doing it in linked spreadhseets is slow,
and doesn't make ad-hoc queries convenient. My plan has been to
transfer it all into 4th Dimension (when I get around to installing
it -- need more disk space) or mySQL (when I get around to writing
a reasonably useable data-entry front end), but if John's system
does what I need without ny having to finish the job...
2) I don't have my digitized images organized (yet).
Plusses?
1) I *feel* so *organized* ;-)
2) A quick mail-merge in Word Perfect, and I've got a batch of
Avery stickers to put on slide mounts or the backs of prints;
and when someone asks a question about a print ("When was that?"
"What film was that shot on?") or wants to order a reprint,
the info is right there on the back of the print (or the slide
mount).
3) I'm just a small bit of programming away (an Excel macro
or some UNIX scripts that work on a text-exported copy) from
having the thing print out a shopping list when I go out to
buy film. (I'll get around to it soon.)
Ideally I'd like to have the whole pile of images scanned
and the database in an efficient DBMS that understands SQL,
with some glue programmed to let me do a query ("Show me
images that contain a shakuhachi") and have a browser come
up with a set of thumbnails along with the text list. And
some reference to model releases (which I don't have many
of yet).
But first I have to write the programs for other people, that
pay for my groceries.
-- Glenn
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(Over?) lubrication of A 50/2.8 Macro helicoid
I just received an A 50mm f/2.8 Macro lens "in pristine, like new condition", according the eBay seller. I have a question regarding the proper extent of lubrication for the focusing helicoid. The lens arrived in something less than the advertised condition, with a light grease smeared on the rear element. I've never used a macro lens before, and the ability to peek inside and see the helicoid lubrication raised a question: What's it _supposed_ to look like in there? How much grease should there be on the helicoid? Does it evaporate to coat the glass surfaces over the years, or does the condition of the rear element suggest that the "pristine, like new" lens was given (too large) a dollop of grease just before I purchased it? Thanks for any input. Brian Walsh - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Follies
About a terribly mis-identified Mamiya on eBay, it was said: >> "50mm Pentax Asahi w/ accessories, Mint" >> Take a look at the pics . . . the third pic shows the camera has one of >> those hot shoe/viewfinder thingies that were made to go on spotmatics >> without shoes . . . > Gosh Uncle Bill, haven't you heard of the mamiya/sekor DTL 1000 attachment > for your Asahi Pentax? > :-) Actually, one of my broken cameras stolen in the burglary was a Mamiya/Sekor screwmount that had locked up. It came with one of those clip-on accessory shoes when I got it from a pawn shop. When it died, I yanked the shoe to use on my pre-Spotmatic bodies. (Unfortunately, the shoe was in the camera back that got stolen in the burglary, so it too is gone.) The accessory shoe had the Mamiya/Sekor name on it, so on occasion someone staring into my lens could see, reading from top to bottom: Olympus (on the flash) Mamiya/Sekor (on the accessory shoe) either Honeywell or Asahi (on the body) Pentax (on the body) Vivitar or Fuji (on the lens -- or Takumar, but that's not as funny) Had a bit of funky brand-name cross-polination going on there. Too bad I didn't have a visible brand name on the front of the PC-to-hotshoe adaptor to round things out to an even half-dozen. I need to get another one of those accessory shoes, visible brand name or not. That thing came in handy. -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT:End of Definitely a horror tale...
>It never ceases to amaze me that zealots think the truth > will change folks minds. Folks know the truth, and still barbecue briskets. > (Got some great barbecue picks too!) Hell, I know what's in a hot dog and I > had several yesterday! You're right there. Repetitive lying is a much more effective way to mold people's minds. And it's being done to us so intensely and frequently by the big corporations in this world that it's getting harder and harder to see the reality of our lives underneath all of the bullshit... But sometimes telling a little of what you see as an alternate, different kind of truth, helps. Maybe not right away, and maybe not for everyone. But sometimes some people, in their own time, begin to open their eyes and look around and then maybe make up their own minds for themselves... And maybe I am a zealot for a little truth saying now and then. So what? You don't seem to mind preaching your truths at us either, though you disguise it under the cover of sarcasm... But I mean you no personal ill will. And good luck with your beef eating habits. (Remember James Gardner...?) EOT for me. Back to the cameras! Skip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:Definitely a horror tale...
- Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 11:40 AM Subject: Re: OT:Definitely a horror tale... > I've been to Dodge City, seen the pens, shooed the flies. I've also worked in a chicken processing plant and a pickle plant, and worked in restaurants and specialty food warehouses. All of these things have something in common. What do you think it is? > > Not a damn one of them belongs on a Pentax discussion list. > > Doug Neither does threatening to "report people" to (of all things!) a corporation, for what is said here to one another! What kind of fink would even think of doing something like that? This is still a free WWW, isn't it? And in a free speech country? (Isn't it...??) And what's the "OT" here for, anyway? But okay, I'll drop it, you're probably right. It is probably straying too far off topic now. Dosk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Subject: Re: Swan Song Photo!
Yep, you have the idea there. I remember someone had a way of setting the ISO to a certain setting (depends on film and lens) and the little dots on the light meter scale would indicate the aperture, but I forgot the details as I don't have a MZ-50. Anyway, good luck with combo! Todd At 07:31 PM 3/24/01 +1000, you wrote: > >"Todd, thankyou so much for this! I had no idea that I could use it in TV >mode providing that it is wide open. I almost always shoot in manual and >hadn't even considered trying the other modes. I am so happy that I can >now use this lens! I was quite disappointed to find that the meter wouldn't >work with the lens and not having a handheld meter, I had rendered it >virtually useless on this camera! So basically, what you are saying is that >if I want to use it say on f5.6, then I just slow down the shutter speed >that >the camera advises by 21/2 stops? Makes sense now! I am renewed, I >can use my lens, and in actual fact, it may prove beneficial to my >learning to have to work this way for some time, as I will really have to >think about the relationship between the f-stops and the shutter speed. So, >there we go, there is a silver lining after all!" > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS: Sigma 17-35 EX 1:2.8-4,
This list has changed,,, Ive sold to others on this list in the past and had no complains, Ive even setup private auctions to allow feeback... and protect the buyer through escrow. ...some of you are v.bitter people. If your in Ontario, you can come and see the lens and camera and will see what good condition they're in. NOT EVERYONE IS OUT TO SCREW YOU PEOPLE! Gwlad _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:Definitely a horror tale...
My post was original written tongue in cheek typed for fun, but I see by your post that you are a zealot bent on evangelism. OT is one thing. Getting your hackles up over controversial subjects on the PDML list is another. My cousin Malcolm (What were his parents thinking..) works in a slaughter house in Canada. Been there seen that. Got some pics taken with my LX somewhere. Seen it when I lived in Texas. I still love and eat meat. I still shoot and gut whitetail, but after trying once myself, I leave the butchering to the butcher. Too much work and too much time. The butcher has the right tools. It never ceases to amaze me that zealots think the truth will change folks minds. Folks know the truth, and still barbecue briskets. (Got some great barbecue picks too!) Hell, I know what's in a hot dog and I had several yesterday! Beware those dangerous fresh fruits and veggies! They account for 85% of food poisoning in the US and other developed countries. (Yeah, surprised me too.) God bless MacD's. Keep that beef flowing! Har! Regards, Bob... Member, PETA (People Eating The Animals). Member, PPPETA (People Photographing People Eating The Animals). Beef, it's what's for dinner! Pheasant, now that's exotic! Shark, a mild flavorful taste. Lamb, tasty in a Middle Eastern Style meal. Mutton, best left to the Brits. Pork and Ham, it ain't kosher, man. Buffalo, I think it's an acquired taste. Tourists, Hey! If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them? - Original Message - From: "dosk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 7:52 AM Subject: Re: OT:Definitely a horror tale... > Yep, "top of the food chain" would be an apt description for you. I'd be > careful where I went swimming though; there might be a few sharks who would > contest that claim of yours. They might like to see just how fast you could > "claw your way to the top..." > But seriously though, (if you have a good gag reflex) you should take your > little camera and go to Dodge City Kansas and do a photo essay on the > feeding pens... You could label it, "Why I'm A Real Man And Don't Eat > Broccoli". Or maybe, "Why I'm Proud To Be A Superior Being..." > But be sure and bring a bandanna or something for the stench. Oh, and some > kind of bug spray too. There's lots of flies... (And they aren't scared away > by all those added artificial hormones the cows are fed...) > Dosk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Night Vision Photography
Hi, Was just browsing on eBay when I came across a night vision scope that has a Pentax mount. Anyone out there done any photography with these sort of equipment before? I had the chance to play with night vision goggles when I was in the Army. The images I saw sure wouldn't look good as a photograph. :) Kelvin __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com.sg/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Landscape photography in UK
[Jim wants ideas for landscapes, when the British countryside is hard to get to.] You could get in a boat and photograph the land from the sea - or even from the air (although a plane might be better than a boat for that.) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I want a new LX screen too!
Michel Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I will second that motion! > I will too! Let's form a consostium! I'm sure Pål is anxious to manage the thing :) Gianfranco Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:Definitely a horror tale...
I've been to Dodge City, seen the pens, shooed the flies. I've also worked in a chicken processing plant and a pickle plant, and worked in restaurants and specialty food warehouses. All of these things have something in common. What do you think it is? Not a damn one of them belongs on a Pentax discussion list. Doug At 10:52 AM -05003/24/01, dosk caused thus to appear: >Yep, "top of the food chain" would be an apt description for you. I'd be >careful where I went swimming though; there might be a few sharks who would >contest that claim of yours. They might like to see just how fast you could >"claw your way to the top..." >But seriously though, (if you have a good gag reflex) you should take your >little camera and go to Dodge City Kansas and do a photo essay on the >feeding pens... You could label it, "Why I'm A Real Man And Don't Eat >Broccoli". Or maybe, "Why I'm Proud To Be A Superior Being..." >But be sure and bring a bandanna or something for the stench. Oh, and some >kind of bug spray too. There's lots of flies... (And they aren't scared away >by all those added artificial hormones the cows are fed...) >Dosk > -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: darkroom pics
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:54:09 -0600 (CST), Chris Brogden wrote: > > > On 20 Mar 2001, at 23:01, William Robb wrote: > > > > > Anyone interested in a "special" gallery? > > > Call it "My Darkroom"? How about "My House" as a theme? That would be nice on this global list! Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S: What you need is all you get!
> "What you need is all you get" is a great marketing slogan. It sounds a bit like Rolls-Royce. What is the power: enough What is the top speed: enough and never discuss the price, if you have to ask for that, you can't afford it anyway. Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:Definitely a horror tale...
Yep, "top of the food chain" would be an apt description for you. I'd be careful where I went swimming though; there might be a few sharks who would contest that claim of yours. They might like to see just how fast you could "claw your way to the top..." But seriously though, (if you have a good gag reflex) you should take your little camera and go to Dodge City Kansas and do a photo essay on the feeding pens... You could label it, "Why I'm A Real Man And Don't Eat Broccoli". Or maybe, "Why I'm Proud To Be A Superior Being..." But be sure and bring a bandanna or something for the stench. Oh, and some kind of bug spray too. There's lots of flies... (And they aren't scared away by all those added artificial hormones the cows are fed...) Dosk - Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: Re: OT:Definitely a horror tale... > I love it! Keeps the quality of the beef up (controlled moo-vement and fattening feed) > while keeping the price down with smaller land requirements. I do love my beef tender! > Good management - I'll have to buy more stock. Later this year, I'll be going up north > with my M1A to shoot Bambie. He'll be tasty to, and besides, Papa needs a new pair of > gloves! Perhaps I'll bring pics. I'd mount a camera to the rifle, but the lenses can't > take the recoil. > > My species didn't claw it's way to the top of the food chain through millions of years of > evolution to eat only bushes! > > I can't wait for barbeque time. Make mine medium rare please! > > Regards, > Bob... > --- > Your village called. They're missing their idiot. > > > From: "dosk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To all those big shot "investors" and "cattlemen" who are so anxious to > > protect McDonald's integrity: > > > > I've been not serious here on this matter before, but I'm getting real sick > > and tired of all you McDonald's cowboys! > > Have you ever been to Dodge City? Well I have. Hundreds of thousands > > (perhaps millions) of head of "prime" cows confined to endless row upon row > > of feeding pens so tiny the poor beasts can only stand upright in their own > > excrement. Huge earth mover dump trucks arrive constantly with tons of feed > > grain to fatten these confined creatures for the slaughter house. (The > > amount of grain forced into these poor animals could feed all of the world's > > poorest nations if used in better ways...) > > The animals' cries are constant and heartbreaking, and the stench rising > > from the entire area is absolutely nauseating! > > (And I won't even mention here what the slaughterhouses are like...) > > > > You're proud of your investment in this system? In McDonalds? You want to > > defend it? I think you should all go away and hang your heads in shame for > > perpetuating such an atrocity...! > > Dosk > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Conversational stuff: Re: The Tragic Tragic Truth
- Original Message - From: "aimcompute" Subject: Re: The Tragic Tragic Truth > Thanks Bill. It was fun writing it. I forwarded it to about 50 of my friends. It was a serious hoot. I'm sure there are valid reasons for > criticizing McDonalds, as is so for many corporations and institutions. Just don't ever take on Wal~Mart. > This was an attempt to make clear that my original post on the subject, > which was just a side-thought, was not meant as that, nor was it even meant > to be taken seriously. It was simply a juvenile-like act of passing on > some grotesque anecdote. I knew that right off the start, it was pretty obvious. There seems to be some awfully touchy people on the subject though. > > Darn it, I can't seem to stop posting OT stuff... Ya, it's a problem I have too. > > On the other hand, how many of us really KNOW where our food comes from, or > how it's been handled? I don't. I think if I knew that, I would probably starve to death. In the State of Washington, it's illegal to > dump low-level nuclear waste. It's not illegal however, for the producer of > the waste to hire disposal firms, which in turn sell the waste to fertilizer > companies as filler. The fertilizer then goes on foodstuffs produced for > human consumption. That was front-page news in the Seattle Times several > years back. Watch out for any WA apples. :-) "Ain't that America... Home of the free Little pink houses..." HAR Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS: Sigma 17-35 EX 1:2.8-4
laughs... someone better beat it! i still am keeping mine since its such a lovely lens... At 02:46 PM 3/24/2001 +, you wrote: >Hi list, >Firstly, If you read my email, it says I'll stop the auction if anyone is >interested (there are advantages to buying privately). >Secondly, the lens has come out of the box once for 5 rolls of film (thats >not far off New -and is definately proven). >Thirdly, If you want to pay tax, go to BH. >So, Anyone else, if you want me to beat the price, email me at >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Thanks, >Gwlad > >From: Alexandre A. P. Suaide >Subject: Re: FS: Sigma 17-35 EX 1:2.8-4 >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:09:55 -0800 >-- >Hello, >BH has the same (NEW) for US$439.00. The initial bid for this auction is >US$450.00. Too expensive >Alex >-- >gwlad gwlad wrote: >>Ive put the following up for sale on ebay also, if anyone is interested (see >>Sigma 17-35 EX 1:2.8-4 Pentax Mount - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Tragic Tragic Truth
Thanks Bill. It was fun writing it. I'm sure there are valid reasons for criticizing McDonalds, as is so for many corporations and institutions. This was an attempt to make clear that my original post on the subject, which was just a side-thought, was not meant as that, nor was it even meant to be taken seriously. It was simply a juvenile-like act of passing on some grotesque anecdote. Darn it, I can't seem to stop posting OT stuff... On the other hand, how many of us really KNOW where our food comes from, or how it's been handled? I don't. In the State of Washington, it's illegal to dump low-level nuclear waste. It's not illegal however, for the producer of the waste to hire disposal firms, which in turn sell the waste to fertilizer companies as filler. The fertilizer then goes on foodstuffs produced for human consumption. That was front-page news in the Seattle Times several years back. Watch out for any WA apples. :-) Tom C. - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: Re: The Tragic Tragic Truth > > - Original Message - > From: "aimcompute" < > Subject: OT: The Tragic Tragic Truth > > > > Last nite when I got home from work my phone kept ringing off > the > > hook. > > > > > "Yes", Moortimer replied, "it's also because we know you like > beef". > > Excellent Best post on this list in a long time.!! > BRAVO! > William Robb > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SMC PENTAX FA645 35mmF3.5AL[IF]
Takehiko Ueda wrote: > > Hi all, > > Pentax has released the above lens. The price will be > JPY150,000, and 100 will be manufactured a month. Adopts > hybrid and glass-molded aspherical lenses and ghostless > coating. Minimal focal distance is 0.3m with the 0.25x > magnification. > > Specs are as follows; > Mount: Pentax 645AF Mount > Lens Number: 7 groups 10 elements > AOV: 90 degree > Aperture: Automatic > Minimal Aperture: f32 > Metering: TTL open aperture metering > Minimal Focal Distance: 0.3m > Filter Diameter: 82mm > Max Magnification: 0.25x > Max Diameter: 88mm > Length: 90mm > Weight: 560g > http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2001/gif/200111.gif Interesting, they totally redesigned it, making it *bigger*. It stops down further, and the filter diameter is bigger as well. 82mm? I think that's a first for the 645. Nice looking lens. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: FS: Sigma 17-35 EX 1:2.8-4
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of gwlad gwlad > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:46 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FS: Sigma 17-35 EX 1:2.8-4 > > > Hi list, > > Firstly, If you read my email, it says I'll stop the > auction if anyone is > interested (there are advantages to buying privately). Yeah, like no negative possible if the item is not quite as described. > Secondly, the lens has come out of the box once for 5 > rolls of film (thats > not far off New -and is definately proven). Proven? To whom? > Thirdly, If you want to pay tax, go to BH. There's no tax if you don't live in New York. > So, Anyone else, if you want me to beat the price, > email me at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thanks, > Gwlad - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Sigma 17-35 EX 1:2.8-4
By the way, if anyone wants to see any angle of the said lens or 5n etc. just email me and I'll get my buddy to take some digital pics for you. Gwlad _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Subject: Re: Swan Song Photo!
Tanya & Russell Mayer wrote: >> Tom said: >> "Just how close does it focus? " > > Tom, it focuses at 1.4 metres or 4 ft. I personally think that that is too > far > especially for a lens that is labelled as "close focus", but there you have > it. > At what distance would a 135mm without "close focus" normally focus? The FA 135 focuses down to 2.feet (.7m). I think that's about 1:4. I don't think that's 'normal', but it's sure nice... > >> "That's pretty nice bokeh" > > Thanks, and that is the exact reason that I took that shot, I just wanted to > test > it out a bit. Now, to go slightly off topic (but I don't really care cause > it is my > topic anyways!), you know that until I read the PDML Glossary, I had never > heard of the word "bokeh", but had a feeling that some lenses looked better > out of focus than others. Do you know what? And did you know it was introduced into english (from the Japanese) by a PDML member? tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Subject: Re: Swan Song Photo!
Todd wrote: You can use the lens with the MZ-50, but the light meter is almost useless, it will meter for the F2.5 aperture no matter where you set the aperture ring. So either use it wide open, compensate the reading for how many stops you have the lens set down from F2.5, or ignore the light meter and get exposure settings from elsewhere. "Todd, thankyou so much for this! I had no idea that I could use it in TV mode providing that it is wide open. I almost always shoot in manual and hadn't even considered trying the other modes. I am so happy that I can now use this lens! I was quite disappointed to find that the meter wouldn't work with the lens and not having a handheld meter, I had rendered it virtually useless on this camera! So basically, what you are saying is that if I want to use it say on f5.6, then I just slow down the shutter speed that the camera advises by 21/2 stops? Makes sense now! I am renewed, I can use my lens, and in actual fact, it may prove beneficial to my learning to have to work this way for some time, as I will really have to think about the relationship between the f-stops and the shutter speed. So, there we go, there is a silver lining after all!" Tom (the big day photo one) wrote: "You should have that hand looked at. That's not right." Yes, you should have seen my husband's face as he tried to count all of his fingers and toes when he was born! "Just how close does it focus? " Tom, it focuses at 1.4 metres or 4 ft. I personally think that that is too far especially for a lens that is labelled as "close focus", but there you have it. At what distance would a 135mm without "close focus" normally focus? "That's pretty nice bokeh" Thanks, and that is the exact reason that I took that shot, I just wanted to test it out a bit. Now, to go slightly off topic (but I don't really care cause it is my topic anyways!), you know that until I read the PDML Glossary, I had never heard of the word "bokeh", but had a feeling that some lenses looked better out of focus than others. Do you know what? In the past week, since I have learned that the word exists, I have seen & heard it used in direct conversation with me at least 5 or 6 times! Isn't strange how these things work? "So what are you going to do? I'd trade in that mz-50 and get a couple of super programs, but that's just me..." Well, I'm keeping the mz-50 for now, however, I have just had a more than generous offer from another PDML'er and it seems that I have been EXTREMELY fortunate to acquire an ME Super, basically for nothing! So, I guess that the plan is to work with these two bodies, at least until the camera fairy sends a reeeally cheap Ebay PZ-1p my way, or until the MZ-S is released and the prices of the PZ-1p go down the gurgler. I may consider, depending on how financial I can get, on going with an Mz-5n if I can't get a hold of the Pz body before too long (I'm talking Xmas here - we're building a house this year remember!) Of course, if anybody knows how to contact Easter Bunny directly, please put in a good word for me! However, after tonight's lotto draw, all of this will be a distant memory for me and I'll be purchasing shares in Pentax with a lifelong subscription to whatever equipment takes my fancy...heehee. ;-) Tanya. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Nov 1962 National Geographic
Hi Bob ... Thanks for the tip. However, I may have found what I need. There are a couple of November, 1962 issues available on eBay, so I just asked the sellers if it contained the article by Chapelle. Still waiting to hear back, but, if it's the right issue, I'll probably bid on one. EBay as a research source, gotta love it! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob Walkden wrote: > > Hi, > > another way to search for it would be to search the cd-rom set which > NG issued a year or 2 ago containing all the back issues. There was > also an index online a couple of years ago, which I used for some back > issues, but unfortunately I can't find it now. > > --- > > Bob > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Saturday, March 24, 2001, 3:15:19 AM, you wrote: > > > I'm trying to find an article photographed by war correspondent > > Dickey Chapelle. I believe the article is in the November, 1962 > > issue of Natl Geographic. If anyone on the list has this issue, > > would you check to see if her article is in it? Thanks so very > > much. > > > For those who don't know who Dickey Chapelle is, you can get a brief > > bio here: > > http://web.missouri.edu/~wjcb23/seventhpage.html > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax wish list
"Collin Brendemuehl" said: > Seriously, a little retro. >some leaf shutter lenses on 35mm (hey, this is a "wish" list!) 645 or 67 LS on an adapter maybe? Those adapters have to be good for something... Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K2 DMD
Jon Hope writes: > There is a K2 DMD for sale here in Perth, Western Australia. The cost is > AUD 300 ono (Or near offer). This equates to about $150 USD, convert to > your local currency at will. Damn, I'd be interested if I could afford to spend the money right now :) > I have talked to the seller, it is working on manual, but on automatic it > doesn't show (use) the correct shutter speed. I have no idea if it can be > fixed, the seller hd it in to a repairer that didn't want to look at it as > he didn't have any spare parts. My most recently acquired K2 has the exact same problem. I compared its meter with my Sekonic spot meter and found the reading was under by two stops, but the "automatic" mode overexposed by two stops relative to the meter reading. So that pointed the finger at the meter _reading_ itself (ie the needle) as the net effect of the automatic mode resulted in a correct exposure. It's gone back to the local Pentax repair agent (yes, I've found out that they are the Pentax people) for the _third_ time, this time with a detailed note explaining what I just wrote above. I'm hoping they'll actually fix the thing this time. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K2 DMD
Jon Hope writes: > Are these a desirable item? There's one in the local paper for sale, going > price $300 AUD (erm, I think that's about $2.91 US today). I'd buy it at that price. AU$300 is currently N$360 which is about what a K2 (non-DMD) goes for here, with a 50mm lens attached. If you get the motor drive as well then you've got a bit of a bargain IMO. If it's black then it's worth even more, I'm told. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MIR anyone ???
Bill D. Casselberry asks: > So - did any of our "down-under" members get the MIR on film? Not me. According to this morning's paper it splashed down 3800km east of here which probably puts it closer to Chile. Some people in Fiji apparently saw trails and heard sonic booms. NZ and Australia were nowhere near the actual flight path which is just as well, as it was cloudy here at the time! Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax wish list
Mark Roberts writes: > I want a PZ-1p with up-to-date autofocus. > That's all. I'd like to add "ruggedised build" to the list, including better sealing and less plastic. I personally don't care too much about size & weight as long as it doesn't reach F5 proportions, at which point you're better off getting a 67II. I'd also make a couple of minor modifications: 1) Make the AF-assist beam available without having to activate the flash, 2) Make trap-focus work with an AF lens in "manual" mode, 3) I would love a microprism focussing screen like that in my K2 bodies, 4) Interchangeable viewfinders: a waistlevel finder would be great. 5) More viewfinder coverage. I was amazed at just how much I miss out on. Cheers, Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Nov 1962 National Geographic
Hi, another way to search for it would be to search the cd-rom set which NG issued a year or 2 ago containing all the back issues. There was also an index online a couple of years ago, which I used for some back issues, but unfortunately I can't find it now. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Saturday, March 24, 2001, 3:15:19 AM, you wrote: > I'm trying to find an article photographed by war correspondent > Dickey Chapelle. I believe the article is in the November, 1962 > issue of Natl Geographic. If anyone on the list has this issue, > would you check to see if her article is in it? Thanks so very > much. > For those who don't know who Dickey Chapelle is, you can get a brief > bio here: > http://web.missouri.edu/~wjcb23/seventhpage.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
