Re: Hoya, Tiffen (was Re: Cokin filters)

2001-03-28 Thread Alan Chan

>And thx for the answer - I thought the Cokin filters were made of glass, 
>not plastic...

AFAIK, retangular Cokins are resin while rounded Cokins are glass.

>I like the flexibility the Cokin system provides... You know, the only 
>thing to be worried about is the correct adapter, which is cheaper than any 
>filter... It is pretty important, as I have lenses of various diameters: 49 
>mm to 58 mm... So, are the Cokin filters really so much crap?

I recommend you buy the largest diameter filters of your lenses and used 
step-up rings. For instances, I have a stack of 67mm filters and a few 
step-up (49->67, 52->67, 58-67 etc) rings.

>And I'll also welcome anything about the Hoya and Tiffen filters (as asked 
>below:)) Hoya filters seem to be known as really top quality...

I have been using HOYA for more than 10 years and they are very well made. I 
have checked some TIFFEN too but they were so poorly made I just returned 
them (so poor it was hard to believe). IMO, they should revise their 
manufacturing process rather than spending on some fancy plastic cases which 
serve no purpose. KENKO are the same as HOYA but available in Japan and HK 
only AFAIK.

regards,
Alan Chan

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Re: 24/3.5 hood question

2001-03-28 Thread Daphne

thanks George, thats great news!
finally a K prime *and* a metal hood... ah...


Daphne

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Re: My eBay auctions (updated)

2001-03-28 Thread Alan Chan

Sorry guys, I have added one more item to the list. Don't hestitate to email 
me any questions.

Pentax Quick Shoe Set   - 1226001455
Pentax Battery Pack A for Motor Drive A - 1225153454
Pentax Battery Cord A   - 1225156753
Pentax FD-2 Eyepiece for LX - 1225159636
Pentax FD-1 eyepiece for LX - 1225162228
Pentax LX case  - 1225168374
Pentax Super A/Program camera back  - 1225278421
Pentax Release Cord A for Motor Drive A - 1225281282
Pentax battery holder for LX Winder - 1225285290
Pentax spare parts for Motor Drive A- 1225287775
Vivitar 283 flash   - 1225164401
Ricoh grid screen for XR-P  - 1225165210

regards,
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Re: A50 1.4

2001-03-28 Thread Alan Chan

>I already own the A50 1.7.
>Is the 1.4 better optically?  What's a reasonable price for it?

The A50/1.7 is significantly sharper at wide open, but the A50/1.4 is much 
better built.

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Re: A50 1.4

2001-03-28 Thread Steve Scott

I seem to have built a stable consisting of the M50/2, the M50/1.4, the
A50/1.7 and A50/1.4.  I'm anxious to perform my own tests as soon as I
can find the time.  I fondly my SMCT50/1.4 was a splendid optic.

Steve S.
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Takehiko Ueda wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
>
> I don't know which is better optically, for I didn't "test"
> them.  It's just my impression that A50/1.4 renders colours
> more vividly than A50/1.7.
>
> In Japan, A50/1.4 costs around JPY20,000 which makes around
> USD160 due to weaker Yen... :(  I think in the US it's
> around USD100 to 150.  I bought mine for USD105.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> 
> Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.tripod.co.jp/hayatama/photo/
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Re: Jonesing for a photo fix (not shopping related)

2001-03-28 Thread Stan Halpin

Thanks Kevin. I actually had noticed the fold-over onto the second line and
had tried to rebuild the link, but had no luck.

I like your "off center" shot. If I were there I would probably do one
series (lens/f-stop combinations) centered, one series where you have it.
And then I would go lower, by about 2 feet, and left about 1 foot. To
slightly exaggerate the offcenterdness. At the end, what you are showing
here is probably the strongest. But I also agree that a shot dead-center
(maybe slightly lower) would be striking as well.

Stan

> From: Kevin Thornsberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:15:38 -0600
> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Jonesing for a photo fix (not shopping related)
> 
> Stan,
> 
> Thanks for trying.  It looks to me like somewhere along the way the link was
> split into two lines.  Grrr!
> 
> Connect the line beginning with ID=632... with the http: line and you should
> get in.
> 
> As an alternative, I probably should have given you this link which is
> shorter.
> 
> http://community.webshots.com/user/kthornsberry
> 
> The Oak Alley picture is in the "Louisiana" Album.
> 
> Sorry for the inconvenience and good luck if you try again.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Stan Halpin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 10:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Jonesing for a photo fix (not shopping related)
> 
> 
> on 3/27/01 9:48 PM, Kevin Thornsberry at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>> 
http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto&alb
u>> m
>> ID=6322637&photoID=5503882&security=XGrdUTYjyO
> 
> I get the following:
> --
> Webshots Community Error
> A problem has been detected.
> 
> You do not appear to be the owner of this album.
> Make sure you are logged in.
> --
> 
> Oh well.
> 
> stan
> 
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Re: 24/3.5 hood question

2001-03-28 Thread george de fockert

From: "Daphne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> anyone knows is the clamp-on tak 24/3.5 hood (its 60mm diameter) will
> work on the SMC 24/3.5-K (58mm diameter)? I have the lens on its way and
> am wondering should I grab the hood, I havent seen many of these around
> (but then I havent looked for one before, either) ?
>
> Thanks for your imput!
>
> Daphne
>

From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Does anyone know if the Tak 24/3.5 hood will fit on a K24/2.8?
> --
> Shel Belinkoff
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

yes, I know.
The Tak 24/3.5 hood (58mm) fits perfectly on the K 24/3.5 (58mm) , but not
on the K 24/2.8 (52mm)

George






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Re: KX motordrive dilemma

2001-03-28 Thread William Kane

How do you know one of us didn't get it? ;-)  

Seriously though, does it really matter who gets it as long as SOMEONE
gets a deal on it?  A KX moterdrive selling at a reasonable price is
much better for one of us when we want to get one, rather than a KX that
goes for an 'unreasonable' reserve just because 'the last one on ebay'
went for $X,XXX . . .

just a thought,
Illinis Bill

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> So here is my dilemma for you.  I saw this just before I left work.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1225858889
> 
> It was a KX motordrive with a $10 opening bid, but a 'Buy-it-Now' price of
> $90.
> I marked it and then went home.  I knew it wouldn't last long.  I don't know
> who the buyer is, but he's a big buyer who I've lost many times to.  I'd
> guess he's running some kind of commercial enterprise.
> 
> Should I have bid the $10 opening and put the item in play for the rest of
> the pdml to follow-up on?  Any thoughts?
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
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Subject: Re: This is for my Penance...

2001-03-28 Thread Tanya & Russell Mayer

Ann Sanfedel wrote:

"I could see em loud and clear - who is the Carrie fisher look alike ? :)
annsan"

Ann, I've never been told that I look like Carrie Fisher before!  I don't
mind, but I can't say that she'd be too flattered as they are probably the
worst I have ever looked in a shot!  Did you read the dialogue that goes
with those shots?  I posted them purely for entertainment value and not to
display either my modeling or photography (my son took these) "prowess".

Tanya.


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Re: KX motordrive dilemma

2001-03-28 Thread Chris Brogden

On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1225858889
> 
> Should I have bid the $10 opening and put the item in play for the rest of 
> the pdml to follow-up on?  Any thoughts?

Personally, I wouldn't, but it's up to you.  Putting in a bid just to kill
the BIN option will mean that the camera will likely go for pretty close
to what it's worth, which is more than $90.  :)  This way, the buyer,
whoever they are, gets a good deal.  It's true that the seller's losing
out, but that's really their own fault in this case, since they put a
BIN price on an item they admitted to knowing little about.  A call to a
good camera store or a few minutes of online price checking would have let
them know what they had, but they chose to go with a BIN price.  They got
what they asked for it, which isn't so bad.  Of course, I'm not looking
for a KX Motor Drive, so no big loss here.  If I was, then I'd probably be
pissed off.  :)  Isn't the KX Motor Drive the really rare one?  The K2DMD
is more common, AFAIK.  What's the scoop?

chris

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Re: A50 1.4

2001-03-28 Thread Takehiko Ueda

Hi Jeff,

I don't know which is better optically, for I didn't "test"
them.  It's just my impression that A50/1.4 renders colours
more vividly than A50/1.7.

In Japan, A50/1.4 costs around JPY20,000 which makes around
USD160 due to weaker Yen... :(  I think in the US it's
around USD100 to 150.  I bought mine for USD105.

Sincerely,


Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
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Re: (F)A* 300 f2.8 plus teleconverters

2001-03-28 Thread Rob Studdert

On 28 Mar 2001, at 23:16, Mark Cassino wrote:

> The only issue that I have run into is that at times the teleconverters 
> wreak havoc on the Bokeh.  It's weird, but sometimes I get beautiful 
> bokehs, sometimes I get odd bokehs were there is destinct details in the 
> background (even though they are faint) and other times the bokeh looks 
> like a bad mirror lens.  Some examples:

 Snip

> The other draw back to the teleconverters is that they do introduce another
> element of camera shake.  I was particularly having problems with the 1.4x-L but
> found that is was just plain loose, and tightening a screw helped a lot.

Hi Mark,

What a great post, a picture is worth a thousand words. "Jay Ablaze" has to 
be one of my favs on your site, any idea where the aperture was set for the 
image "Great Blue Heron"?

BTW my 2X-L screws were also quite loose.

As an aside, does anyone have a 1.4X-L for sale or trade, seriously.

(I have some interesting gear up at eBay at the moment too)

Cheers,

Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio)

PO Box 701
HURSTVILLE BC NSW 1481
AUSTRALIA

Tel +61-2-9554-4110
Fax +61-2-9554-9259
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KX motordrive dilemma

2001-03-28 Thread Rfsindg

So here is my dilemma for you.  I saw this just before I left work.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1225858889

It was a KX motordrive with a $10 opening bid, but a 'Buy-it-Now' price of 
$90.
I marked it and then went home.  I knew it wouldn't last long.  I don't know 
who the buyer is, but he's a big buyer who I've lost many times to.  I'd 
guess he's running some kind of commercial enterprise.

Should I have bid the $10 opening and put the item in play for the rest of 
the pdml to follow-up on?  Any thoughts?

Regards,  Bob S.





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Re: Jupiter 9

2001-03-28 Thread Robert Meier

Kelvin,

Thanks for the information.   I didn't know it is a preset lens.

Bob

> No. Not even today (it's still made). Best to go for a post 1989 Jupiter
> 85/2, as these
> are multicoated (though not as strudy as the earlier ones).
>
> Anyhow, doesn't make a difference... because you can always buy the M42-K
> adaptor
> and have it permanently mounted onto it. And, since the lens is pre-set,
> there is no
> automation to lose.
>
> The manufacturer's website has info on the lens:
>
> www.lzos.ru
>





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Re: (F)A* 300 f2.8 plus teleconverters

2001-03-28 Thread Mark Cassino

I bought the 400 f2.8 with the intent to generally use it
with teleconverters. In controlled tests, the sharpness of the lens, even
with the 2x-L teleconverter, is phenominal.

The only issue that I have run into is that at times the teleconverters
wreak havoc on the Bokeh.  It's weird, but sometimes I get beautiful
bokehs, sometimes I get odd bokehs were there is destinct details in the
background (even though they are faint) and other times the bokeh looks
like a bad mirror lens.  Some examples:

Nice Bokeh:

with the 1.4x:
http://www.markcassino.com/0002/0002n01.htm

with the 2x:
http://www.markcassino.com/0007/gallery2/0007nbk.htm


Odd Bokeh:

with the 1.4x:
http://www.markcassino.com/0007/gallery1/0007ne.htm

with the 2x:
http://www.markcassino.com/0007/gallery2/0007nbu.htm

Ugly Bokeh:

2x -
http://www.markcassino.com/0007/gallery2/0007ndx.htm

I don't have any uglies with the 1.4x

The other draw back to the teleconverters is that they do introduce
another element of camera shake.  I was particularly having problems
with the 1.4x-L but found that is was just plain loose, and tightening a
screw helped a lot.

- MCC



At 05:53 PM 3/28/01 +0200, you wrote:
Hi,

has anyone tested the Pentax (F)A* 300mm f2.8 with the Pentax
teleconverters.

I'm looking for the best telelens investment, filling the 300-600mm
focal
range.
This lens plus teleconverters would give me:

300mm f2.8
420mm f4
600mm f5.6

The 300 f4 lens gives 600 f8, which is a bit slow.
Any opinions?

Frank Wajer

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Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #511

2001-03-28 Thread Kelvin

No. Not even today (it's still made). Best to go for a post 1989 Jupiter
85/2, as these
are multicoated (though not as strudy as the earlier ones).

Anyhow, doesn't make a difference... because you can always buy the M42-K
adaptor
and have it permanently mounted onto it. And, since the lens is pre-set,
there is no
automation to lose.

The manufacturer's website has info on the lens:

www.lzos.ru


Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:16:19 -0600
From: "Robert Meier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jupiter 9 for K Mount?

Does anyone know if the Jupiter 9  (85mm f2) lens has ever been available in
K mount?

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A50 1.4

2001-03-28 Thread Jeff Tokayer

I already own the A50 1.7.
Is the 1.4 better optically?  What's a reasonable price for it?

TIA, Jeff

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RE: 500mmf4.5 Pentax lens modified for Nikon f-mount]

2001-03-28 Thread McRae, Max MS

Yep, love mine...in normal K mount of course.

Just bought the Manfrotto heavy gimbal lens support
for it. (Art.# 393)

Need something like that to steady the thing...it weighs
10lbs.


-Original Message-
From: Todd Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2001 14:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FS: 500mmf4.5 Pentax lens modified for Nikon f-mount]



Spotted in rec.photo.marketplace
Certainly sounds like an interesting lens!  
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=rec.photo.marketplace

Todd



Subject: 
 FS: 500mmf4.5 Pentax lens modified for Nikon f-mount
Date: 
 27 Mar 2001 03:13:49 GMT
   From: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Badnam1)
 Organization: 
 AOL http://www.aol.com
 Newsgroups: 
 rec.photo.marketplace




This is a RARE fast telephoto lens for Nikon. I have used it for bird
photography with my N90s (on manual focus of course). It is super sharp and
comes with its own case with strap. 
Asking $900. I will pay for shipping. It is a heavy lens and built like a
tank.




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My eBay auctions

2001-03-28 Thread Alan Chan

Just to let you guys know that I have these items on eBay until the end of 
this week. Don't hestitate to ask me any questions.

Pentax Battery Pack A for Motor Drive A - 1225153454
Pentax Battery Cord A   - 1225156753
Pentax FD-2 Eyepiece for LX - 1225159636
Pentax FD-1 eyepiece for LX - 1225162228
Pentax LX case  - 1225168374
Pentax Super A/Program camera back  - 1225278421
Pentax Release Cord A for Motor Drive A - 1225281282
Pentax battery holder for LX Winder - 1225285290
Pentax spare parts for Motor Drive A- 1225287775
Vivitar 283 flash   - 1225164401
Ricoh grid screen for XR-P  - 1225165210

regards,
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Re: Jupiter 9 for K Mount?

2001-03-28 Thread Juan J. Buhler

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Robert Meier wrote:

> Does anyone know if the Jupiter 9 (85mm f2) lens has ever been
> available in K mount?

I don't think it is. Nobody here mentioned a K mount when I asked
about the lens, and all the research about it I've done in the web
shows only M42 versions.

j

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Re: 67mm filter on 49mm lens...?

2001-03-28 Thread PAUL STENQUIST



Rapture wrote:

> 
> interesting... ...and whats your email?

Huh??? 
What's your name?
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RE: Subject: Re: Cokin filters

2001-03-28 Thread McRae, Max MS

Speaking of filters, I've just ordered a screw on Nikon Softar #1 diffusion
filter in 62mm.

I aim to use it with a step ring for my Pentax FA 100 f2.8 macro for portraiture.
The cost was horrendous, NZ $390.00, but the effect from this filter is
just fabulous.

God knows what it is that Nikon do to make these filters so expensive, but
whatever it is, I think it's worth it.

It's the old story... no one ever regrets buying quality.

Max
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Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #511

2001-03-28 Thread Tanya & Russell Mayer



On Wed, 28 Mar 
2001 07:55:30 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
"I'm AMAZED at 
the total lack of commentary on the arrival of the NEW flagship MZ-S body. 
Is this an Apple Fool's joke played on me or is there a flagship. For 2 
years I've waited and now noone speaks of it. When, where? We all know 
why?"
 
Umm, Burt, have 
you been receiving a different digest from me? There has been substantial talk 
about the MZ-S (and the other models also being released) over the past couple 
of days in particular.  I am quite sure that its not an "Apple Fool's" 
joke, but you might want to check to see just how far it has fallen from the 
tree...
 
8-)
 
Tanya.



24/3.5 hood question

2001-03-28 Thread Daphne

anyone knows is the clamp-on tak 24/3.5 hood (its 60mm diameter) will
work on the SMC 24/3.5-K (58mm diameter)? I have the lens on its way and
am wondering should I grab the hood, I havent seen many of these around
(but then I havent looked for one before, either) ?

Thanks for your imput!

Daphne

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Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread Pål Jensen

Cameron wrote:

> I just hope they do it SOON! They have been lagging badly behind all others
> in pro camera development; 


There's no word about time frame so release date is pure speculation. I personally 
doubt any other pro grade camera will be shown this year. As we have heard before 
theres supposedly a flagship coming and the MZ-S is not intended as that flagship. Its 
unclear to me whether the "S-1" or the "MZ-1" is the flagship. I also got the 
impression half a year ago that the flagship (or was it the Z-1p successor?) was 
basically ready for release. However, a couple of months ago it said that the flagship 
(or was it the Z-1p successor?) will go through a redesign because its basically 
gotten too old and uncompetitive in the meantime. The Minolta Dynaxx 7 is seen as a 
minimum benchmark. 
I personally believe, and I stress this is pure speculation on my part - not based on 
any hard facts, that a flagship or "S-1" will not be that close. I'll be surprised if 
its released before Photokina next year; thats 1,5 years away. However, I do believe 
that one of the MZ-3 upgrades is not that far away - maybe even this year.

Pål

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Re: (F)A* 300 f2.8 plus teleconverters

2001-03-28 Thread Stephen Moore

Jan van Wijk wrote:
 
> BTW: I recently saw a A* 400mm 2.8 for sale for about $3200 but that
> is a real heavy beast to lug arround ...

KEH in Atlanta (http://www.keh.com) has one left in "ex" condition. 
Price has been dropping since last August from USD$3100 to $2899 
as of this week. They also have two of the A*300/2.8 ED IF -- one "ex+"
and one "ex" -- just reduced to USD$2370 and $2029 respectively. 
The "ex+" also has the 112mm clear SMC protective front "filter," which
costs the world (for a do-nothing piece of glass) if bought separately.

And yes, the 400/2.8 is one heavy s.o.b...

Regards,
Stephen Moore
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Re: They ARE out to get me

2001-03-28 Thread dosk

Where there any cows in the area?
Skip


Subject: OT: They ARE out to get me


> OK.  That does it.
>
> I got a 5 gallon propane bottle filled at a hardware store last night on
my
> way home from work.  Anyway, I went inside to pay and came out 5 minutes
> later. I was parked just next to the propane tank.  I opened the door on
the
> Montero and smelled a strong gas smell, thinking it was the main propane
> tank.  I dismissed it and was just about to turn the ignition key when I
> heard a hissing sound coming from the back compartment.  I stopped in my
> tracks and went around and opened the rear hatch.  The propane was venting
> and the valve had been left open about  quarter turn!
>
> I let the vehicle air out for 5 minutes.  The attendant wished me a nice
day
> and got on his walkie-talkie.
>
> >From here on out I'm reformed, I promise.
>
> Can anyone recommend a good insurance salesman?
>
> Tom C.
>
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Re: OT: Cokin filters

2001-03-28 Thread Steve Scott

I just unloaded my Cokin Creative Filter set on eBay.  Bought it 20 years ago, used
them maybe twice.  I generally use a glass UV or Skylight on my lenses 100% - unless
using a PL.

Regards,
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"David A. Mann" wrote:

> Artur Led¢chowski writes:
>
> > I've just been wondering if Cokin filters are coated... I couldn't find any
> > information about it on them in a shop... Can you give me any hint about it?
>
>  The only Cokin filters I've seen are made of plastic (err, "special optical
> polymer" or whatever Cokin call it).  I've heard that plastic can't be optically
> coated because the process would melt it.
>
> Cheers,
>
> - Dave
>
> David A. Mann, B.E.
> email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
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Re: Photo Expo Japan

2001-03-28 Thread herbet brasileiro

I don't speak or read japanese, but I guess it's the
digital EI3000 (revamped EI2000) that has a zoom lens
34-107.
Herbet.

--- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's a pain to point people to specific pages within
> the Pentax
> web site because they use frames (all together now:
> "FRAMES
> SUCK!"), but with a bit of digging I have found that
> the URL is
> http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2001/200112.html
> 
> IE gives me Japanese characters from which I can
> tell nothing.
> Netscape gives me blank boxes for the characters it
> doesn't
> understand but does seem to convert numerals...and
> the second
> table cell from the bottom (numbered "1") has  a
> sub-cell with
> "34   107mm35mm" in it.
> Nothing to indicate what this is. Not even if it
> *is* a lens.
> Could be a point-and-shoot with a built in 34-107
> zoom for all I
> know.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Dick wrote:
> >
> >> If one goes to the Mother Ship web site in Japan
> and clicks on the second 
> >> line down under What's New and scroll down  one
> will see a new product 
> >> listed amongst the empty blocks: 35mm 34-107 mm. 
> I'm aware of the 28-105 
> >> newbie but have not heard of this one.  As it is
> impossible for us American 
> >> retards to read the info maybe some one accross
> the Pacific pond  can 
> >> illuminate us about these apparent new lenses.
> >
> >
> >URL please!
> >34-107? Is that the rumored Limited zoom?!!!
> >
> >
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RE: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread Cameron Hood

I just hope they do it SOON! They have been lagging badly behind all others
in pro camera development; I guess they just wanted to clean up in the point
and shoot market, not to mention binoculars and so on (BTW, have you ever
compared the milky, cloudy looking M.. binos with the clear. warm look
of the Pentax models? Even in the sub $100.00 Canadian market,  M is not
even close optically).

I LOVE my PZ1-p, and was rather disappointed at the MZ-S cameras specs,
although it too is a very nice camera. As I would probably only be able to
buy one of these cameras, I think I will wait a bit when the MZ-S comes out
to see if these rumours pan out. I would also be interested in an all-metal
high quality mechanical camera for battery-free back-up. Could this be the
rumoured LX replacement? Keep us posted, Paal. And thanks for the good work.

Any reports on this from Japanese people who perhaps attended the show?

Cameron

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Re[2]: Photo Expo Japan

2001-03-28 Thread Takehiko Ueda

Hi Dick,

Mike is right.  It's about the new digital camera called
El-3000.  FYI, the translation is as follows;

Name: El-3000(tentative)
Type: Built-in zoom lens full automatic SLR type digital
still camera
Photo CCD: 3.43 million frame transfer 2/3 CCD
Lens: 3x zoom 34-107mm equivalent in 35mm format
Finder: SLR system with diopter
Monitor: 2' colour LCD
Exposure Modes: 10 modes
White Balance: 8 modes
Media: Compact Flash TypeI and II
Interface: AV output, USB, Auxiary power, IrDA1.1

Sincerely,


Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
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Re: Photo Expo Japan

2001-03-28 Thread Jan van Wijk

On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:36:27 -0600, dick graham wrote:

>If one goes to the Mother Ship web site in Japan and clicks on the second 
>line down under What's New and scroll down  one will see a new product 
>listed amongst the empty blocks: 35mm 34-107 mm.  I'm aware of the 28-105 
>newbie but have not heard of this one.  As it is impossible for us American 
>retards to read the info maybe some one accross the Pacific pond  can 
>illuminate us about these apparent new lenses.

Judging from the surrounding bits and pieces those are the specs
forr the MZ-S digital-twin ...

I don't think another lens is mentioned here!

Regards, JvW

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Re: Photo Expo Japan

2001-03-28 Thread Mark Roberts

It's a pain to point people to specific pages within the Pentax
web site because they use frames (all together now: "FRAMES
SUCK!"), but with a bit of digging I have found that the URL is
http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2001/200112.html

IE gives me Japanese characters from which I can tell nothing.
Netscape gives me blank boxes for the characters it doesn't
understand but does seem to convert numerals...and the second
table cell from the bottom (numbered "1") has  a sub-cell with
"34   107mm35mm" in it.
Nothing to indicate what this is. Not even if it *is* a lens.
Could be a point-and-shoot with a built in 34-107 zoom for all I
know.

Mark

Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Dick wrote:
>
>> If one goes to the Mother Ship web site in Japan and clicks on the second 
>> line down under What's New and scroll down  one will see a new product 
>> listed amongst the empty blocks: 35mm 34-107 mm.  I'm aware of the 28-105 
>> newbie but have not heard of this one.  As it is impossible for us American 
>> retards to read the info maybe some one accross the Pacific pond  can 
>> illuminate us about these apparent new lenses.
>
>
>URL please!
>34-107? Is that the rumored Limited zoom?!!!
>
>
>Pål
>
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Re: (F)A* 300 f2.8 plus teleconverters

2001-03-28 Thread Jan van Wijk

On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:53:15 +0200, Frank Wajer wrote:

>has anyone tested the Pentax (F)A* 300mm f2.8 with the Pentax
>teleconverters.
>

Yes, I have been using the A* 300mm 2.8, in itself a superb lens!

Combined with the 1.4x L converter (the gray one with a "snout") it is
still very good, no vignetting even wide open.

Still waiting for a 2x L converter to show up 2nd hand :-(

I also tested the lens combined with the new SIGMA APO 1.4x and 2x
AF teleconverters. The sharpness and contract is acceptable, maybe
slightly less than the Pentax 1.4x L.

Both APO converters do strongly vignet though when used wide open, 
this makes them almost useless for my type of shooting (wildlife).

>I'm looking for the best telelens investment, filling the 300-600mm focal
>range.
>This lens plus teleconverters would give me:
>
>300mm f2.8
>420mm f4
>600mm f5.6
>

Yes, that is what I am aiming for too, just need the 2xL converter ...

>The 300 f4 lens gives 600 f8, which is a bit slow.
>Any opinions?

Yes, although the lens is quite good (the F(A) 300mm 4.5 might be even better)
it is too slow to use with the 2x converters.


BTW: I recently saw a A* 400mm 2.8 for sale for about $3200 but that
is a real heavy beast to lug arround ...


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Re: Re: Beating a Dead Hors...er, Cow OT and love of S.E. UTAH

2001-03-28 Thread robertmeier

>the Abbey connection would have pleased me 


Is that Edward Albee, the playwright, you're talking about?


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Re: Photo Expo Japan

2001-03-28 Thread dick graham

Just go to:www.pentax.co.jp/japan/index.html  and scrolldown.  It is down 
about 3 paragraphs and is in small print.

DG


At 03:23 AM 3/29/01 +0900, you wrote:
>Hi Dick,
>
> > If one goes to the Mother Ship web site in Japan and
> > clicks on the second line down under What's New and
> > scroll down  one will see a new product listed amongst
> > the empty blocks: 35mm 34-107 mm.  I'm aware of the
> > 28-105 newbie but have not heard of this one.  As it is
> > impossible for us American retards to read the info
> > maybe some one accross the Pacific pond  can illuminate
> > us about these apparent new lenses.
>
>I can't find the web site you mentioned.  Let me know the
>url, and I can translate it for you.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://members.tripod.co.jp/hayatama/photo/
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Re: Chernobyl effect on film (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread John Francis

Peter Smith wrote:
> 
> Anyone know if they protect film against radiation on the shuttle missions?
> (probably gone all digital now).

They probably haven't - NASA is practically the last place to move away
from a tried-and-true technology; they typically run many years behind
the curve  (look at the technology of the Apollo guidance computers,
for example, compared to typical machines of the period)

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Re: Photo Expo Japan

2001-03-28 Thread dick graham


www.pentax.co.jp/japan/index.html



At 08:14 PM 3/28/01 +0200, you wrote:
>Dick wrote:
>
> > If one goes to the Mother Ship web site in Japan and clicks on the second
> > line down under What's New and scroll down  one will see a new product
> > listed amongst the empty blocks: 35mm 34-107 mm.  I'm aware of the 28-105
> > newbie but have not heard of this one.  As it is impossible for us 
> American
> > retards to read the info maybe some one accross the Pacific pond  can
> > illuminate us about these apparent new lenses.
>
>
>URL please!
>34-107? Is that the rumored Limited zoom?!!!
>
>
>Pål
>
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Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread dick graham

Thanks Pal, I appreciate the information!

DG



At 08:10 PM 3/28/01 +0200, you wrote:
>Dick wrote:
> > I got in on this late.  Is it my understanding that there are photos of
> > these prototype bodies or is this just taken from talk at the camera show
> > in Japan?  How serious is it?
>
>It's serious enough. Pentax have shown diagrams where they plotted in an 
>Z-1p successor and upgrade models of the MZ-3. Thats all. When asked 
>directly they deny everything as expected. What they have been doing is to 
>signalize to the market that the MZ-S is not the last word for Pentax 
>upper level body. For us it is really old news but there you go.. Its nice 
>to get it confirmed one more time at least.
>
>Pål
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Re: Photo Expo Japan

2001-03-28 Thread Michael Nosal

At 11:36 AM 3/28/01 -0600, you wrote:
>If one goes to the Mother Ship web site in Japan and clicks on the second 
>line down under What's New and scroll down  one will see a new product 
>listed amongst the empty blocks: 35mm 34-107 mm.  I'm aware of the 28-105 
>newbie but have not heard of this one.  As it is impossible for us American 
>retards to read the info maybe some one accross the Pacific pond  can 
>illuminate us about these apparent new lenses.
>
>DG
>

Not a new 35mm lens - rather it is the 'effective' focal length of the zoom
lens on the EI-3000 (upgrade to the EI-2000 digital camera).

--mike

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RE: shops in perth

2001-03-28 Thread Peter Smith

Scotland or Oz?

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelvin
> Sent: 28 March 2001 05:04
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: shops in perth
> 
> 
> hi
> 
> I will be in Perth sometime late next month for a few days and 
> was wondering
> where I might go to find spotmatics and M42 lenses at a good price?
> 
> If anyone residing in Perth has any of the above to sell (SP F 
> and SP IIa),
> please also let me know.
> 
> Would appreciate your cc'ing me in your reply as I read the pentax digest
> and without an index as the old digest used to have, often I might miss
> the e-mail.
> 
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RE: Subject: Re: Cokin filters

2001-03-28 Thread Peter Smith

I regularly use a Cokin polarising filter to get some detail into the dreary
grey skies we regularly have in the UK.

I also occasionally use screw on No1 close up on a 50mm just to give a
little extra near focus.

Peter


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tanya & Russell Mayer
> Sent: 28 March 2001 01:25
> To: Pentax Discussion List
> Subject: Subject: Re: Cokin filters
>
>
> On  Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:20:57 -0800, Bob Blakely wrote;
>
> "Cokin filters suck canal water. Compared to even a cheap, screw in glass
> filter, they are
> sharpness reducing, contrast destroying, dispersion generating flair
> intensifiers."
>
> So what filters do you prefer then, Bob?  And which filters do
> others on the
> list prefer? And why do you prefer them?
>
> Tanya. :-)
>
>
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Re: Photo Expo Japan

2001-03-28 Thread Takehiko Ueda

Hi Dick,

> If one goes to the Mother Ship web site in Japan and
> clicks on the second line down under What's New and
> scroll down  one will see a new product listed amongst
> the empty blocks: 35mm 34-107 mm.  I'm aware of the
> 28-105 newbie but have not heard of this one.  As it is
> impossible for us American retards to read the info
> maybe some one accross the Pacific pond  can illuminate
> us about these apparent new lenses.

I can't find the web site you mentioned.  Let me know the
url, and I can translate it for you.

Sincerely,


Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Jonesing for a photo fix (not shopping related)

2001-03-28 Thread Peter Smith

>Dan Scott wrote:

snip
> The upside is that WalMart doesn't charge for prints you don't like, even
if it is > the whole roll.
snip


Really?  Cant see that happening this side of the pond.

Peter

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Re: Beating a Dead Hors...er, Cow OT and love of S.E. UTAH

2001-03-28 Thread aimcompute

Well make me an idiot Ann!  It didn't even occur to me.  I can't believe it.
Shoot shoot shoot!

Sorry about your picture.  I'm sure it was good.  Sometime within the last
year (I think) OP columnist Dewitt Jones had a column with a picture from
Dead Horse point at sunset.It was instantly recognizable.  Hard not to
walk away with a good shot.

Isn't it neat how some of the best places are "off the radar"?

We're thinking about going there again this summer.  Now watch... all the
campsites'll be taken up by PDMLers.

Tom C.

From: "Ann Sanfedele"

> Dead Horse point is one of my fave places in all the world - and
> when he discovered my love for canyonlands, Wheatfield had privately
mailed me
> his tale of adventure
> there (which see posted here somewhere) .  Went down the Shaeffer
(Shatter? i
> cant spell worth a damn)
> trail in a 4 wheel subaru wagon and that was no bargain either - scary as
hell.
> But I digress...
>
> Please pules tell me you took a picture of the dead horse by the sign!  My
kinda
> stuff. :) -  UM the
> juxtaposition of sign and horse, of course, not the poor dead beast.-
(Given
> the horsey did not
> look too revolting as a corpse.)
>
> My sad photo tale of Dead Horse Point is that my stock agency sold a
picture of
> mine to be used
> on one of Edward Abbey's books being reprinted in paper (a  year after his
> demise, approx.) - I
> was so elated when I found out the purpose I could have turned down the
scratch
> - then the
> publishers used a diff pic (mine was horizontal, other one was vertical)
sob,
> sob.  But I did
> get paid, anyway.  The good news was the book was rather poorly designed
and the
> picture they
> ended up using was printed the size of a postage stamp against a confusing
> background.  Still,
> the Abbey connection would have pleased me a lot.
>
> annsan



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Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread tom

John Francis wrote:
> 
> Ernest Alejandria wrote:
> >
>  In my opinion, the only logical upgrade/succesor to the Z-1p/PZ-1p line will
> > be titanium clad with a multi-point AF and OTF metering. They can leave the
> > rest of the features intact, as far as I'm concerned.
> 
> I don't care if it's titanium clad or not (actually I'd prefer 'not'),
> but I'd like to see the data-recording capabilities of the MZ-S/MZ-D
> (both on-film recording and dataport-download directly to a hand-held).

Personally, I think the coolest thing about the MZ-S is the vertical
grip. Imagine that on a pz-1p...

tv
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Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread John Francis

Ernest Alejandria wrote:
> 
 In my opinion, the only logical upgrade/succesor to the Z-1p/PZ-1p line will
> be titanium clad with a multi-point AF and OTF metering. They can leave the
> rest of the features intact, as far as I'm concerned.

I don't care if it's titanium clad or not (actually I'd prefer 'not'),
but I'd like to see the data-recording capabilities of the MZ-S/MZ-D
(both on-film recording and dataport-download directly to a hand-held).

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Photo Expo Japan

2001-03-28 Thread dick graham

If one goes to the Mother Ship web site in Japan and clicks on the second 
line down under What's New and scroll down  one will see a new product 
listed amongst the empty blocks: 35mm 34-107 mm.  I'm aware of the 28-105 
newbie but have not heard of this one.  As it is impossible for us American 
retards to read the info maybe some one accross the Pacific pond  can 
illuminate us about these apparent new lenses.

DG

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OT: They ARE out to get me

2001-03-28 Thread aimcompute

OK.  That does it.

I got a 5 gallon propane bottle filled at a hardware store last night on my
way home from work.  Anyway, I went inside to pay and came out 5 minutes
later. I was parked just next to the propane tank.  I opened the door on the
Montero and smelled a strong gas smell, thinking it was the main propane
tank.  I dismissed it and was just about to turn the ignition key when I
heard a hissing sound coming from the back compartment.  I stopped in my
tracks and went around and opened the rear hatch.  The propane was venting
and the valve had been left open about  quarter turn!

I let the vehicle air out for 5 minutes.  The attendant wished me a nice day
and got on his walkie-talkie.

>From here on out I'm reformed, I promise.

Can anyone recommend a good insurance salesman?

Tom C.


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Re: Beating a Dead Hors...er, Cow

2001-03-28 Thread aimcompute

Wow Bill,  I bet you have to wear a hearing aid in your right ear now, if
you know what I mean. 

I've noticed since moving, and having 3 miles of dirt road I am going deaf
in that ear.

Tom C.


William Robb wrote:

> We were on our way back towards Moab from Dead Horse...

> I also figured there was no way I was going to back
> us out of trouble, as the road at that point was only slightly
> wider than the car, with cliff face on one side and a whole lot
> of nothing on the other.

> we fell off the line of rocks I had laid down, and put a dent in the oil
pan deep enough
> to put my fist into.

>  Anyway, it was after that incident that my wife agreed to  the bigger
truck.

> William Robb
>



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RE: PUG Confirmations

2001-03-28 Thread Provencher, Paul M.

Didn't receive confirmation message

Paul M. Provencher
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Subject: PUG Confirmations


I have just sent out the confirmations for the upcoming Gallery.
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Re: (F)A* 300 f2.8 plus teleconverters

2001-03-28 Thread John Francis

Frank Wajer wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> has anyone tested the Pentax (F)A* 300mm f2.8 with the Pentax
> teleconverters.
> 
> I'm looking for the best telelens investment, filling the 300-600mm focal
> range.
> This lens plus teleconverters would give me:
> 
> 300mm f2.8
> 420mm f4
> 600mm f5.6
> 
> The 300 f4 lens gives 600 f8, which is a bit slow.
> Any opinions?

I've used the A* 300/2.8 with the 1.4X-L, and with the AF 1.7 adapter
(which gives me an auto-focus 500/f4.5).  I'm well satisfied with the
results.   I don't (yet) have a 2.0X-L, but everything I've heard would
suggest that this works very well with the 300/2.8, too.

If you're looking for the best bang for the buck it's worth considering
the Tamron 300/2.8.   I used to own one of those (plus 1.4x & 2x TCs),
and optically it's practically indistinguishable from the Pentax.  It's
a lot cheaper, though.  The main drawback is that fitting and removing
the Tamron teleconverters isn't quite as simple as using the Pentax ones.

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Re: Beating a Dead Hors...er, Cow

2001-03-28 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: "aimcompute"
Subject: Re: Beating a Dead Hors...er, Cow


> Wow Bill,  I bet you have to wear a hearing aid in your right
ear now, if
> you know what I mean. 
>
> I've noticed since moving, and having 3 miles of dirt road I
am going deaf
> in that ear.

Nah, I wuz smart. When I was a lad, I rode Harley Davidson
motorcycles with loud pipes. I was pretty deaf on that side when
we started the journey.
William Robb



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http://photographytips.com/

2001-03-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff

My old uncle in Latin America sent me the above URL.  I've not had a
chance to explore the site yet, but a quick glance indicates that
there's enough information there that at least some people should
find something useful.  Have fun!
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there are only good photographs.
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Vs: for our French friends

2001-03-28 Thread Raimo Korhonen

In the magazine itself it is "Cote d`amour" - meaning how much they love the lens. 
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Päivä: 28. maaliskuuta 2001 10:51
Aihe: Re: for our French friends



>Where :
Cote = Chasseur d'Images cote (I don't know the translation)

>
> Olivier.
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Vs: Vs: Your all time favourite lens....

2001-03-28 Thread Raimo Korhonen

Maybe my 1.7/50 M is not a good sample but my 3.5/35-105 is sharper at 50 mm and it is 
shaper than my 4/28-70 AL. The new 3.5-4.5/24-90 mm seems the same, sharpness-wise.
The weight actually helps dampen vibration, so I use it with ME and winder ME II. 
All the best!
Raimo
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Aihe: Re: Vs: Your all time favourite lens


>
>I have to disagree with this.  I had two of A35-105/3.5, never found them
>better than any of my primes.  Also they are so heavy, that handheld shots
>are prone to unsharpness.  The two touch operation doesn't help.  I think
>for zooms, light weight ones are best.  I recently sold a Kiron 28-210,
>a "cult" lens, really constraty and quite sharp.  But it weighs too much
>and doesn't balance too well the smaller cameras.  The FA 28-70AL is a
>much better proposition, as far as zooms are concerned.
>
>BTW, where can I get a good 28mm lens?
>
>On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Raimo Korhonen wrote:
>> I thought about this long and hard but when I look at which lens I use the most it 
>is the 3.5/35-105 SMC Pentax-A. Best image quality of my Pentax lenses (better than 
>1.7/50 M!) and very good build quality - but heavy.
>> All the best!
>> Raimo
>
>

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Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread dick graham

I got in on this late.  Is it my understanding that there are photos of 
these prototype bodies or is this just taken from talk at the camera show 
in Japan?  How serious is it?

DG



At 12:33 PM 3/28/01 +0200, you wrote:
>Alin wrote:
>
> >   To me, the two new MZ cameras appear to be rather an updated MZ-3
> > and a downgraded MZ-S. There is little sense in improving the MZ-7 -
> > an already settled body in its class. But the MZ-3/5n cries for a new
> > autofocus and a touch of the flash system.
>
>
>I wasn't thinking about an update or replacement of the MZ-7 but a camera 
>placed above the MZ-5n thats more similar to the MZ-7 in concept; a camera 
>to compete with the Elan 7 and the Nikon F80.
>
>Pål
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Re: Beating a Dead Hors...er, Cow OT and love of S.E. UTAH

2001-03-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

aimcompute wrote:

> Going off on a tangent again... The dead horse reminded me of Dead Horse
> Canyon State Park in Utah where we visited two years ago.  Very picturesque
> and Grand Canyon-like.  It's adjacent to Canyon Lands National Park.  We had
> Kit Fox pups right in our camp site. And believe it or not,  just as we
> passed the entrance sign, there actually was a dead horse lying in the
> ditch.

Dead Horse point is one of my fave places in all the world - and
when he discovered my love for canyonlands, Wheatfield had privately mailed me
his tale of adventure
there (which see posted here somewhere) .  Went down the Shaeffer (Shatter? i
cant spell worth a damn)
trail in a 4 wheel subaru wagon and that was no bargain either - scary as hell.
But I digress...

Please pules tell me you took a picture of the dead horse by the sign!  My kinda
stuff. :) -  UM the
juxtaposition of sign and horse, of course, not the poor dead beast.-  (Given
the horsey did not
look too revolting as a corpse.)

My sad photo tale of Dead Horse Point is that my stock agency sold a picture of
mine to be used
on one of Edward Abbey's books being reprinted in paper (a  year after his
demise, approx.) - I
was so elated when I found out the purpose I could have turned down the scratch
- then the
publishers used a diff pic (mine was horizontal, other one was vertical)  sob,
sob.  But I did
get paid, anyway.  The good news was the book was rather poorly designed and the
picture they
ended up using was printed the size of a postage stamp against a confusing
background.  Still,
the Abbey connection would have pleased me a lot.

annsan

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Re: Preferences in Light Meters?? Sekonic?

2001-03-28 Thread Treena Harp

I agree. You might see if you can find one used -- I bought mine a couple of
years ago for less than $100, and it also had the 7 and 15 degree spot
attachment. I've been very pleased with it.


Albano said:

> Check out Gossen too. They are great tools.
>
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Re: KMP update (2)

2001-03-28 Thread W Keith Mosier

Boz,

Cool.  Good update.  I have no problems seeing the pages on my browser.  I
like the comments on the pages for the M40/2.8 and the FA43/1.9.  In my
case this makes the difference.  I do not envy you the work.

The resolution test numbers are great, but the difference between the two
(Fred and Yoshihiko) is a little confusing.  Myself, I would only use these
types of numbers if I was comparing several lenses of the same focal
length, such as the recent discussion about the M85/2.0 versus other 85mm
Pentax lenses.

I think emphasizing the "readmefirst" link is a good idea.  I seem to
forget that exists.

K.


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(F)A* 300 f2.8 plus teleconverters

2001-03-28 Thread Frank Wajer

Hi,

has anyone tested the Pentax (F)A* 300mm f2.8 with the Pentax
teleconverters.

I'm looking for the best telelens investment, filling the 300-600mm focal
range.
This lens plus teleconverters would give me:

300mm f2.8
420mm f4
600mm f5.6

The 300 f4 lens gives 600 f8, which is a bit slow.
Any opinions?

Frank Wajer

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Hoya, Tiffen (was Re: Cokin filters)

2001-03-28 Thread Fox

Hi,
I'd like to hear(read) your opinion about Hoya and Tiffen filters, because I'm going 
to buy some. Any advantages/disadvantages to which I should pay attention to?
Fox

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Re: Does Anybody Know what this is?!?

2001-03-28 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

It allows use of K-mount lenses on some video equipment.
Which equipment I don't know.

Collin

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RE: Jonesing for a photo fix (not shopping related)

2001-03-28 Thread Jan van Wijk

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:48:00 -0600, Kevin Thornsberry wrote:

>
>I haven't developed anything yet but here's a link to a picture I took of the 
>plantation a couple of years ago:

Sorry Kevin, link doesn't work ...

(Message about "you're not the owner, log on")

Regards, JvW
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Re: New LX Screens Brochure - web page

2001-03-28 Thread Jan van Wijk

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:26:36 -0600, John Mustarde wrote:

>
>Perhaps looking at the brochure will be helpful. These scans are
>available for a limited time at:
>
>http://web2.airmail.net/linnm3/march/screens.html

Thanks John, much appreciated!

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Re: What would you pay for this? Vivitar Series 1, 28-80mm/2.8-3.5 Macro

2001-03-28 Thread Rapture


http://www.photographyreview.com/reviews/35mm_zoom_lenses/product_6285.asp

With regards to Vivitar, their 'pro' lens range are the
series 1. These lenses are good performers and overall
are considerably better than the Sigma offerings when
built quality and so forth is taken in to account.

Having said so much, i have yet to hold one together with a MZ/ZX body.
So i cannot comment further.

I would still advise getting a new fast lens.  Tokina ATX-Pro is what
i fell in love with recently.  Do consider its 28-80mm/f2.8, i can safely
say that its no doubt one of the best third party pro lens at this range.


At 09:25 PM 3/28/2001 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi again,
>
>Well, I have been offered the following lens for au$195.
>
>http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display?photo_id=191726&size=lg
>
>http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display?photo_id=191724&size=lg
>
>
>Could you guys offer me some advice as to whether or not this would be a
>good buy (I can't afford to "waste" the money that I am able to spare for
>this)?
>
>I am looking at it as a replacement to the Sigma 28-80mm/3.5-5.6 Macro, that
>I lost in the PZ-1P accident.  I have been told that this Vivitar is a very
>good lens and have found it listed on the "Cult Third Party Lenses" web
>page.  However, I would still like to know these things;  Would it be a
>suitable replacement to the lens I lost, or would it be worse/better?  Is
>the au$195 (approx. US$90) a fair price to pay?  Will this lens be able to
>be used on my MZ-50 with the meter functioning correctly?  (I have been told
>that it is a PKA mount, but that there is no "a" setting on the aperture
>ring?!?)  How well does this lens perform in its "macro" mode?
>
>Following the loss of my Sigma lens, which although was very slow, I no
>longer have a zoom lens in any way shape or form, nor do I have anything
>that has macro capabilities.  Those of you that have seen my stuff on
>photo.net will know that I have recently acquired a growing interest in
>macro and close up photography, so I am desperate to at least replace the
>lens that I lost, to upgrade it would be even better, but its that funny
>thing called "lack of money" stopping me yet again
>
>Thanks for any advice you guys can give on this...
>
>Tanya.
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Re: 67mm filter on 49mm lens...?

2001-03-28 Thread Rapture

At 10:29 PM 3/27/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>No,no,no.
>You misunderstand. I love all races as I love my own.
>Other cultures are wonderful and make the world a much
>better place. I am a white girl anyway, not a white
>boy. My flatmates are Chinese and Taiwanese, one of my
>best friends is Chinese, and my ex is Iraqi. I don't
>know any negros, but if I did I would never judge them
>based on their skin colour. I just don't like plain
>black as a colour for cameras, nothing racist
>intended. Plain white cameras would be boring too. I
>am the least racist person I know.

interesting... ...and whats your email?


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Re: arca-swiss type plate for super program

2001-03-28 Thread Michael Perham

Peter Smith wrote:

> For those of us without the knowledge - What's a Swiss arca style plate ???

Kirk and others make ballheads that have a dovetail shaped quick release head
that is modeled after the Arca Swiss ball head which is a kinda standard. There
is a generic plate that comes with the head, but plates are made to fit
specific camera's and tripod mounts of larger lenses.  All have the
/___\ shaped profile that fits into the quick release head.  All fit
the Arca Swiss Quick Release ball head, hence the name "Arca Swiss Style..."

Cheers,  Mike.

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Re: Subject: Re: Camera lens balance

2001-03-28 Thread Rapture

At 06:44 PM 3/28/2001 +1000, you wrote:
Could someone please enlighten me as to what a
"FG grip" is?  Thanks to all
of you "in the know". :-)
Tanya.
http://www.pentax.com/products/accessories/accessory.cfm?accessoryType=SLR

AA - Battery Pack FG (Powers all ZX cameras) 


Description: Takes 4 AA batteries. Uses
the less expensive and easier to find AA batteries. Advances from 20-200
rolls of 24 exposure film (depending on flash usage), and offers
increased balance and handling. (Powers all ZX cameras.) 
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Re: Cokin filters

2001-03-28 Thread Pieter Nagel

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Bob Blakely wrote:

> Cokin filters suck canal water. Compared to even a cheap, screw in glass filter, 
>they are
> sharpness reducing, contrast destroying, dispersion generating flair intensifiers.

Flair intensifying? So all the glamour photographers use Cokin, then?

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RE: Jonesing for a photo fix (not shopping related)

2001-03-28 Thread Dan Scott

Dave,

You _really_ need to get out and play with your new 43mm. And that 6x7 out
for a joy ride, too!

Dan Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sorry, I'm not much help but I might make you feel better with my own
>misery :)  I've shot about four rolls since mid-January, and most of that was
>on one day.
>
> I don't think I've used the 6x7 at all in that time, and it's still
>halfway through
>a roll of 120.
>
> Easter's coming up and I'd like to get away to experience Autumn
>somewhere and burn through a heap of film.  My girlfriend has another
>graduation on Friday so I'll load some of that Portrait 160 I bought last
>year.
>I wish I had my new K2 back from the repairers... I might have to temporarily
>unload the E100SW from the other one.
>
> And I _really_ need to get out and play with my new 43mm!  Maybe this
>weekend (I told myself that a week ago).
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>- Dave
>


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What would you pay for this? Vivitar Series 1, 28-80mm/2.8-3.5 Macro

2001-03-28 Thread Tanya & Russell Mayer

Hi again,

Well, I have been offered the following lens for au$195.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display?photo_id=191726&size=lg

http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display?photo_id=191724&size=lg


Could you guys offer me some advice as to whether or not this would be a
good buy (I can't afford to "waste" the money that I am able to spare for
this)?

I am looking at it as a replacement to the Sigma 28-80mm/3.5-5.6 Macro, that
I lost in the PZ-1P accident.  I have been told that this Vivitar is a very
good lens and have found it listed on the "Cult Third Party Lenses" web
page.  However, I would still like to know these things;  Would it be a
suitable replacement to the lens I lost, or would it be worse/better?  Is
the au$195 (approx. US$90) a fair price to pay?  Will this lens be able to
be used on my MZ-50 with the meter functioning correctly?  (I have been told
that it is a PKA mount, but that there is no "a" setting on the aperture
ring?!?)  How well does this lens perform in its "macro" mode?

Following the loss of my Sigma lens, which although was very slow, I no
longer have a zoom lens in any way shape or form, nor do I have anything
that has macro capabilities.  Those of you that have seen my stuff on
photo.net will know that I have recently acquired a growing interest in
macro and close up photography, so I am desperate to at least replace the
lens that I lost, to upgrade it would be even better, but its that funny
thing called "lack of money" stopping me yet again

Thanks for any advice you guys can give on this...

Tanya.

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RE: Jonesing for a photo fix (not shopping related)

2001-03-28 Thread Kevin Thornsberry

Stan,

Thanks for trying.  It looks to me like somewhere along the way the link was split 
into two lines.  Grrr!

Connect the line beginning with ID=632... with the http: line and you should get in.

As an alternative, I probably should have given you this link which is shorter.

http://community.webshots.com/user/kthornsberry

The Oak Alley picture is in the "Louisiana" Album.

Sorry for the inconvenience and good luck if you try again.

Kevin

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From:   Stan Halpin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, March 27, 2001 10:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Jonesing for a photo fix (not shopping related)

 
on 3/27/01 9:48 PM, Kevin Thornsberry at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

> http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto&album
> ID=6322637&photoID=5503882&security=XGrdUTYjyO

I get the following:
--
Webshots Community Error
A problem has been detected.

You do not appear to be the owner of this album.
Make sure you are logged in.
--

Oh well.

stan

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RE: Jonesing for a photo fix (not shopping related)

2001-03-28 Thread Dan Scott

Congratulations on your 40th, Ken. I suspect you won't have any problems
remembering it. 

Dan Scott
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>Dan, I experienced the same weather this weekend only two hours north at Lake
>Buchanan.  My wife and I drove up to the lake Friday afternoon, got a cabin,
>put the bass boat in the water and went out for about 1 1/2 hours just to
>relax.  We later tied the boat up at the dock on water that looked like glass.
>
>I was going to get up early and get some pictures of the sun rising over the
>lake, but thunder and rain convinced me to roll over and go back to sleep.
>Later, when I got up, I found that 2-3 foot waves had broken the boat loose
>from the dock and beached it full of water.  With the waves relentlessly
>putting water in faster than I could bail it out, I said to hell with it,
>grabbed a camera and went hunting for Bluebonnets and Indian Paintbrush
>instead.  The sun managed to come out for a couple hours and I found what
>I was
>looking for contrasted against prickly-pear cactus and lots of rock.  Even
>found a bunch of vultures (West Texas Tufted Eagles to you people from the
>rest
>of the world) drying their wings after the storm and got some great shots.
>
>The storm roared its ugly head again and my wife and I got in the car and
>drove
>around the hill country looking for anything worthy of a picture.  On the
>south
>end of the lake is a beautiful white lighthouse.  I found a good angle but the
>weather rendered everything dull and uninteresting.  That was until the sun
>peaked through the clouds just enough to spotlight the lighthouse against a
>menacing sky.  That made it worth the trip.
>
>Sunday morning, with the help of a local charter captain, we floated the boat,
>loaded it on the trailer, and came back to San Antonio.  What a weekend.  What
>a way to celebrate a 40th wedding anniversary.
>
>On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, you wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have an "I shot "X" this weekend with a "Y" and had a great time"
>> story to help me through this drought? Doesn't need to be plant related at
>> all...
>>
>> Dan Scott
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>--
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RE: arca-swiss type plate for super program

2001-03-28 Thread Peter Smith

> 
> "Robertson, Alastair" wrote:
> 
> > does anyone know whether Kirk or somebody else makes a Swiss arca style
> > plate for the super program.  Their website says that they make 
> one for MX/LX
> > and another for PZ-1p
> >

For those of us without the knowledge - What's a Swiss arca style plate ???

AFAIC this thread is gibberish.

Peter

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RE: Chernobyl effect on film (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Peter Smith

There was a recent TV documentary about the quest to send a manned flight to
Mars.  The astronaut once outside the Earths atmosphere is unprotected from
Solar and other stellar radiation so the time exposed is a big issue.
Experienced astronauts talked about "seeing" radiation flashes probably
caused by particles passing across the retina (or maybe through the brain).
Anyone know if they protect film against radiation on the shuttle missions?
(probably gone all digital now).

Peter

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> Sent: 28 March 2001 08:23
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT: Chernobyl effect on film (fwd)
>
>
> Received this on private mail.
>
> >One of my strongest impressions was B&W documentary cinema shot from
> >helicopter over the reactor: the picture showed multiple random bursts of
> >light (flashing in different spots), I "felt" those hits passing through
> >glass, body of operator and camera. I do not remember if it was shown for
> >public. I was in military service (in Soviet Army) that time.
> >
> >You may post the message in PMDL.
> >
> >Best regards, Gleb Baida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Thanks, Gleb.  Hope you haven't given away any state secrets.
> If you want to participate in the list without receiving loads
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>
> Anyone nay further ideas on this subject?
>
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Does Anybody Know what this is?!?

2001-03-28 Thread Tanya & Russell Mayer

Hi Everyone,

You know my friend with all the Pentax Gear for sale?  Well he has what he
calls "Video Pentax K Mount Lens Adaptor" and is asking if any of you
wonderful people would happen to know what kind of video it suits.  He
doesn't speak English that great, so I don't know if what he calls it is the
right name, but here are some pics

http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display?photo_id=191716&size=lg

http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display?photo_id=191717&size=lg

Would be most grateful if anybody could shed some light on this

Thanks,
Tanya.

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Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread Pål Jensen

Alin wrote:

>   Very likely a Canon clone, with a simplified user interface via a
> left mode dial and the new Safox VII autofocus system. Feature
> crammed, direct opponent of EOS-3 and Dynax-7 and aiming to the PZ
> owners. 

I guess this S-1 is camera that went back to engineering for an upgrade. Its said that 
the Dynaxx 7 is a minimum benchmark.


>   To me, the two new MZ cameras appear to be rather an updated MZ-3
> and a downgraded MZ-S. 


The updated MZ-3 style bodies is very likely. I don't believe in the downgraded MZ-S 
though. Pentax have said that the MZ-S is not the start of a new series and I believe 
them. The MZ-S wasn't originally planned as I understand it. Pentax decided to develop 
a stand alone digital camera but at some point during its development it was decided 
to make a film version. Maybe to justify high developing costs? The then extra 
development of the film based MZ-S delayed the "flagship" (whatever that camera is; 
MZ-1 or S-1?). 
If Pentax indeed plan to make another series of cameras; the S-series (this is indeed 
not unlikely. There are limits of how many features you can cram into an MZ-style 
body. Besides, I doubt Pentax would make an S-1 as a stand alone model), then it make 
sense to let MZ-series stay conservative and simple and let the more feature laden 
models be limited to the larger S-bodies. An S-5 as F80 competitor is then not 
impossible. 
Unless it is so, the existence of the MZ-S seems hard to explain. It must fill some 
sort of hole in the future Pentax line-up. I mean, if upgrades of the MZ-3 will be 
feature laden wouldn't they then cannibalize the MZ-S?. Now, if we visualize the MZ-3+ 
models (MZ-4, 2, 1) as conservative like the MZ-3 and the S-1 with interface like the 
Z-1p, then the MZ-S makes sense. Its the small, lightweight, sturdy but capable body 
that combine easy of use and simplicity with speed of operation.

Pål

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Re: French lens test drivel (WAS: for our French friends)

2001-03-28 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen

At 12:31 28.3.2001 +0200, Pål wrote:
>Olivier wrote:
>
>> Pentax-A 24mm  f/2.8 Performances : 3
>> Pentax-A 35mm  f/2.8 Performances : 3
>> Pentax-A* 85mm  f/1.4 Performances : 3
>> Pentax-A* 135mm  f/1.8 Performances : 3
>> Pentax-A* 300mm  f/2.8 ED-IF Performances : 3
>
>
>I belive this sort of drivel shouldn't even be posted here. Some may actually believe 
>in it. Its pure nonsense. Anyone who gives the A* 85, 135, and 300 above a mediocre 
>score of "3" is positively out of their minds. Likewise, compare them to a true 
>medoicre lens as the A 35/2.8. 
>The A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8 and the A* 300/2.8 are all "5" lenses among the best in 
>their class ever.
>
>
>>Pentax-FA 85mm  f/1.4 IF Performances : 5Rapport qualite/prix : 5Cote : 5
>Année : 1993
>
>
>This is also pure and utter hoghwash. The FA* 85/1.4 isn't nearly as good as the A* 
>135/1.8 or the A* 300/2.8.

I fully agree with Pål!

Antti-Pekka

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French lens test drivel (WAS: for our French friends)

2001-03-28 Thread Pål Jensen

Olivier wrote:

> Pentax-A 24mm  f/2.8 Performances : 3
> Pentax-A 35mm  f/2.8 Performances : 3
> Pentax-A* 85mm  f/1.4 Performances : 3
> Pentax-A* 135mm  f/1.8 Performances : 3
> Pentax-A* 300mm  f/2.8 ED-IF Performances : 3


I belive this sort of drivel shouldn't even be posted here. Some may actually believe 
in it. Its pure nonsense. Anyone who gives the A* 85, 135, and 300 above a mediocre 
score of "3" is positively out of their minds. Likewise, compare them to a true 
medoicre lens as the A 35/2.8. 
The A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8 and the A* 300/2.8 are all "5" lenses among the best in 
their class ever.


>Pentax-FA 85mm  f/1.4 IF Performances : 5Rapport qualite/prix : 5Cote : 5
>Année : 1993


This is also pure and utter hoghwash. The FA* 85/1.4 isn't nearly as good as the A* 
135/1.8 or the A* 300/2.8.

Pål



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Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread Pål Jensen

Alin wrote:

>   To me, the two new MZ cameras appear to be rather an updated MZ-3
> and a downgraded MZ-S. There is little sense in improving the MZ-7 -
> an already settled body in its class. But the MZ-3/5n cries for a new
> autofocus and a touch of the flash system. 


I wasn't thinking about an update or replacement of the MZ-7 but a camera placed above 
the MZ-5n thats more similar to the MZ-7 in concept; a camera to compete with the Elan 
7 and the Nikon F80.

Pål

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Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread Pål Jensen

From: "Ernest Alejandria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> In my opinion, the only logical upgrade/succesor to the Z-1p/PZ-1p line will 
> be titanium clad with a multi-point AF and OTF metering. They can leave the 
> rest of the features intact, as far as I'm concerned.


Well, that depends of what it will cost. The camera you mention above will cost more 
than the MZ-S. However, Pentax may well decide to design a more litteral Z-1p 
successor. That means plastic body and price to match the Minolta Dynaxx 7.

Pål


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Re: for our French friends

2001-03-28 Thread Olivier

> "Alin" == Alin Flaider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Alin>   Thanks Olivier, this one made it into my archive despite
Alin> the several discrepancies heavily criticized here on the
Alin> list.  BTW, hope ChdI won't find out about your little
Alin> leak. If not for copyright reasons, they swear squarely - as
Alin> I noticed on their list.

Alin>   Servus, Alin

Alin> Olivier wrote:

I think, I don't break the copyright of ChdI. I do not post the
details of the tests. I only post the final result. 
And, theses ratings are subjectives. If you want the objectives one,
with all the explanations and charts, just buy the tests from ChdI.

Regards,

Olivier.

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Re: BRAND NEW PENTAX FA 43 f1.9 LimitedNR (no good)

2001-03-28 Thread mike wilson

This lens is a duffer.

According to the seller it's "protected against flair" so all
the photos taken with it will be really boring

mike
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Re: for our French friends

2001-03-28 Thread Alin Flaider


  Thanks Olivier, this one made it into my archive despite the several
discrepancies heavily criticized here on the list.
  BTW, hope ChdI won't find out about your little leak. If not for
copyright reasons, they swear squarely - as I noticed on their list.

  Servus,  Alin

Olivier wrote:

>> "herbet" == herbet brasileiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

O> herbet> It's quite a bargain for around US$10. I wonder how many
O> herbet> lens tests are included.  Herbet.

O> In my version, the lens tested are :

O> Pentax-A 24mm  f/2.8Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 4Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 28mm  f/2  Performances : 2Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 3Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 35mm  f/2  Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 2
Cote : 3Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 35mm  f/2.8Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 2
Cote : 2Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 50mm  f/1.7Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 4
Cote : 5.5  Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 50mm  f/1.4Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 4Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 50mm  f/1.2Performances : 2Rapport qualite/prix : 2
Cote : 1Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A Macro 50mm  f/2.8  Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 3Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A* 85mm  f/1.4   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 2Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 100mm  f/2.8   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 3Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A Macro 100mm  f/4   Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 4
Cote : 5Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A Macro 100mm  f/2.8 Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 4
Cote : 5Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A* 135mm  f/1.8  Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 2
Cote : 2Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 132mm  f/2.8   Performances : 2Rapport qualite/prix : 2
Cote : 2Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A* 200mm  f/2.8 ED   Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 4Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 200mm  f/4 Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 3Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A Macro 200mm  f/4 EDPerformances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 4Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A* 300mm  f/2.8 ED-IFPerformances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 2Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A* 300mm  f/4Performances : 2Rapport qualite/prix : 2
Cote : 1Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 400mm  f/5.6   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 4
Cote : 5Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 24-50mm  f/4   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 4Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 28-135mm  f/4  Performances : 2Rapport qualite/prix : 1
Cote : 0Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 35-105mm  f/3.5Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 4Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 35-70mm  f/4   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 4Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 35-70mm  f/3.5-4.5 Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 3Année : 1990
O> Pentax-A 70-210mm  f/4  Performances : 2Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 3Année : 1990
O> Pentax-FA 20mm  f/2.8   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 4
Cote : 4Année : 1995
O> Pentax-FA 24mm  f/2 AL-IF   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 4
Cote : 4Année : 1991
O> Pentax-FA 28mm  f/2.8   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 2
Cote : 2Année : 1992
O> Pentax-F 28mm  f/2.8Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 4
Cote : 4Année : 1990
O> Pentax-FA 28mm  f/2.8 Soft  Performances : ?Rapport qualite/prix : 2
Cote : 2Année : 1998
O> Pentax-FA Limited 43mm  f/1.9   Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 2
Cote : ?Année : 1998
O> Pentax-F 50mm  f/1.7Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 4
Cote : 5Année : 1990
O> Pentax-F 50mm  f/1.4Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 2Année : 1990
O> Pentax-F Macro 50mm  f/2.8  Performances : 5Rapport qualite/prix : 4
Cote : 5Année : 1990
O> Pentax-FA Macro 50mm  f/2.8 Performances : 5Rapport qualite/prix : 4
Cote : 4Année : 1992
O> Pentax-FA 85mm  f/1.4 IFPerformances : 5Rapport qualite/prix : 5
Cote : 5Année : 1993
O> Pentax-FA 85mm  f/2.8 Soft  Performances : ?Rapport qualite/prix : 1
Cote : 1Année : 1996
O> Pentax-F Macro 100mm  f/2.8 Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 3
Cote : 3Année : 1990
O> Pentax-FA Macro 100mm  f/2.8Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 4
Cote : 4Année : 1992
O> Pentax-F 135mm  f/2.8   Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 5
Cote : 5Année : 1990
O> Pent

Re: for our French friends

2001-03-28 Thread Olivier

> "Yves" == Yves Caudano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Yves> At 10:20 28/3/01 +0200, you wrote:
>> Cote = Chasseur d'Images cote (I don't know the translation)

>> Olivier.

Yves> Cote = rating

Merci.

Olivier.

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Re: for our French friends

2001-03-28 Thread Yves Caudano

At 10:20 28/3/01 +0200, you wrote:


>Cote = Chasseur d'Images cote (I don't know the translation)

>Olivier.

Cote = rating

Yves



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Subject: Re: Camera lens balance

2001-03-28 Thread Tanya & Russell Mayer

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:58:17 -0800, Alan Chan wrote:

"I think it has so much to do with the size and shape of the body rather
than
the weight when talking about balance. For instances, the MZ-M is too small
for the A70-210/4, but handles a lot better with the FG grip. I even feel
the MZ-M with the FG grip feels better than the Z-1p which was shaped nicely
(but a bit short)."

Could someone please enlighten me as to what a "FG grip" is?  Thanks to all
of you "in the know". :-)

Tanya.




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Re: I want a new LX screen too; Well you CAN!

2001-03-28 Thread Rob Studdert

On 27 Mar 2001, at 20:05, Jan van Wijk wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:25:54 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:
> 
> >
> >Not quite, the SE-60 behaves more like a SE-25 and the SG-60 has an 
> >etched grid patern like the SE-20 but has optical characteristics like the SE-
> >25/SE-60.
> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
> I DO hope that is a typo, the SG-60 DOES have a grid pattern like the SG-20,
> right?

Right Jan, SG-60 has a grid pattern like the SG-20, but has the optical 
characteristics of the SE-25 screen, written in haste like normal.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
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Subject: Re: Jonesing for a photo fix (not shopping related)

2001-03-28 Thread Tanya & Russell Mayer

on 3/27/01 9:48 PM, Kevin Thornsberry at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

">
http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto&alb
um
> ID=6322637&photoID=5503882&security=XGrdUTYjyO

I get the following:
- --
Webshots Community Error
A problem has been detected.

You do not appear to be the owner of this album.
Make sure you are logged in.
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Oh well.

stan"

I got the same thing,
Tanya.


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Re: OT: Household Insurance

2001-03-28 Thread petit miam

I have been assured my bike is covered under contents
even away from home. I had a very nice (expensive,
brand-new) bike stolen before I got insurance just
after leaving home, so I made sure of this fact. So I
assume the camera is same.

Jody.

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Re: Camera lens balance

2001-03-28 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

it's about where the centre of gravity falls. Some people prefer it to
fall towards the camera end whereas others seem to prefer it at the
lens front end. If you're a camera-ender, like me, and used to older
heavier cameras and lenses such as an LX+winder, then it can be quite
disconcerting to use one of the newer lightweight bodies on an older
lens because the centre of gravity has moved so far forwards.

---

 Bob  

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Wednesday, March 28, 2001, 12:35:21 AM, you wrote:

> But what about this balance issue?  What do you feel?  I have large hands is
> that why it is less of an issue with me?


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Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread Alin Flaider


  I had to look to the RFc-822 complete headers to make sure it's not
one of the Valentin's famous cave projections. Come on Pål, you used
to let it out gradually, how can you throw it all in one volley and
expect to be followed!? ;o)
  Comments below.

Pål wrote:

PJ> Its interesting to note the words here: For the Z-1p the word
PJ> sucessor is used - not upgrade. So its most likely a new camera
PJ> and maybe even a new series of cameras. At least it indicate that the  
PJ> Z-name won't be used. For the MZ-3 upgrade they talk about
PJ> cameras. Hence, its to be expected that two bodies will be placed
PJ> above the MZ-5n in the MZ-series (maybe the MZ-5n/3 will be replaced  
PJ> by one of them). 

PJ> So what is this S-1 like? I believe its very likely that it
PJ> continue refining the interface and feature set of the Z-1p but of
PJ> course add up-to-date features. Maybe some novelties. More uncertain  
PJ> is whats exactly meant by Z-1p sucessor. Is it pricewise or
PJ> conceptually? I  believe that an S-1 conceptually moulded after
PJ> the Z-1p will cost more than the MZ-S which means that the S-1 is an  
PJ> upmarket move.

  Very likely a Canon clone, with a simplified user interface via a
left mode dial and the new Safox VII autofocus system. Feature
crammed, direct opponent of EOS-3 and Dynax-7 and aiming to the PZ
owners. Once again a PZ-like camera will be the Pentax line flagship
or at least this will be the general perception...

PJ> The MZ-3 upgrades are another matter. My guess is that one of them
PJ> most definitely is the MZ-1. The other an MZ-4 or MZ-2. I see two
PJ> posibilities for the MZ-2/4: a) a sort of MZ-7 plus; b) a  
PJ> quite litteral upgrade of the MZ-3 retaining its conservative user
PJ> interface. If you look at the diagram the MZ side definitely
PJ> indicate small size. However, its unclear also wheter it implies  
PJ> conservative user interface and economy in features. There are
PJ> indications of the latter; remember the MZ-S is said to be a mid
PJ> points and it indeed fuse conservative interface with modern Z-1p  
PJ> type. Hence, its conceiveable that Pentax intend to split their
PJ> slr line up in two series; a) an MZ-series which are small and
PJ> easy to use camera and b) an S-series which are feature laden and  
PJ> larger.

  To me, the two new MZ cameras appear to be rather an updated MZ-3
and a downgraded MZ-S. There is little sense in improving the MZ-7 -
an already settled body in its class. But the MZ-3/5n cries for a new
autofocus and a touch of the flash system. Otherwise this is a camera
to stay, outside any fashions and trends - let's call it MZ-2. Due to
the wide gap (pricewise mainly) between MZ-S and MZ-2, a new body may
be needed, perhaps a MZ-S without data imprinting. A smart reuse of a
the MZ-S chassis/shutter will reduce the manufacturing prices, just as
Pentax did with the original MZ line. With this structure, the SLR
line might please every fanciness and pocket.

PJ> Since neither the MZ-S or an S-1 is very convincingly as the
PJ> "Limited" camera, I have again start believeing in the MZ-1 as
PJ> exactly that; a connouisseur conservative style aluminium dody designed  
PJ> to match the Limited lenses and to appeal to the MX and LX users.

  Well, this will be a brave move from Pentax, now that the PZ-1p
successor is likely. A two-head camera line would look very strange,
but who knows - it might make sense with the niche trends appearing in
the shrinking film market.

PJ> Theres nothing saying when these cameras will be released.
PJ> However, its likely that the next to come is one of the 
PJ> MZ-3 upgrades; MZ-2 or MZ-4?

  It's the most probable candidate, with its well known acceptance and
minimal required changes.

  Servus, Alin


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Re: for our French friends

2001-03-28 Thread Olivier

> "herbet" == herbet brasileiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

herbet> It's quite a bargain for around US$10. I wonder how many
herbet> lens tests are included.  Herbet.

In my version, the lens tested are :

Pentax-A 24mm  f/2.8Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
4Année : 1990
Pentax-A 28mm  f/2  Performances : 2Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
3Année : 1990
Pentax-A 35mm  f/2  Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 2Cote : 
3Année : 1990
Pentax-A 35mm  f/2.8Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 2Cote : 
2Année : 1990
Pentax-A 50mm  f/1.7Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 4Cote : 
5.5  Année : 1990
Pentax-A 50mm  f/1.4Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
4Année : 1990
Pentax-A 50mm  f/1.2Performances : 2Rapport qualite/prix : 2Cote : 
1Année : 1990
Pentax-A Macro 50mm  f/2.8  Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
3Année : 1990
Pentax-A* 85mm  f/1.4   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
2Année : 1990
Pentax-A 100mm  f/2.8   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
3Année : 1990
Pentax-A Macro 100mm  f/4   Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 4Cote : 
5Année : 1990
Pentax-A Macro 100mm  f/2.8 Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 4Cote : 
5Année : 1990
Pentax-A* 135mm  f/1.8  Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 2Cote : 
2Année : 1990
Pentax-A 132mm  f/2.8   Performances : 2Rapport qualite/prix : 2Cote : 
2Année : 1990
Pentax-A* 200mm  f/2.8 ED   Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
4Année : 1990
Pentax-A 200mm  f/4 Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
3Année : 1990
Pentax-A Macro 200mm  f/4 EDPerformances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
4Année : 1990
Pentax-A* 300mm  f/2.8 ED-IFPerformances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
2Année : 1990
Pentax-A* 300mm  f/4Performances : 2Rapport qualite/prix : 2Cote : 
1Année : 1990
Pentax-A 400mm  f/5.6   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 4Cote : 
5Année : 1990
Pentax-A 24-50mm  f/4   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
4Année : 1990
Pentax-A 28-135mm  f/4  Performances : 2Rapport qualite/prix : 1Cote : 
0Année : 1990
Pentax-A 35-105mm  f/3.5Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
4Année : 1990
Pentax-A 35-70mm  f/4   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
4Année : 1990
Pentax-A 35-70mm  f/3.5-4.5 Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
3Année : 1990
Pentax-A 70-210mm  f/4  Performances : 2Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
3Année : 1990
Pentax-FA 20mm  f/2.8   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 4Cote : 
4Année : 1995
Pentax-FA 24mm  f/2 AL-IF   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 4Cote : 
4Année : 1991
Pentax-FA 28mm  f/2.8   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 2Cote : 
2Année : 1992
Pentax-F 28mm  f/2.8Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 4Cote : 
4Année : 1990
Pentax-FA 28mm  f/2.8 Soft  Performances : ?Rapport qualite/prix : 2Cote : 
2Année : 1998
Pentax-FA Limited 43mm  f/1.9   Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 2Cote : 
?Année : 1998
Pentax-F 50mm  f/1.7Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 4Cote : 
5Année : 1990
Pentax-F 50mm  f/1.4Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
2Année : 1990
Pentax-F Macro 50mm  f/2.8  Performances : 5Rapport qualite/prix : 4Cote : 
5Année : 1990
Pentax-FA Macro 50mm  f/2.8 Performances : 5Rapport qualite/prix : 4Cote : 
4Année : 1992
Pentax-FA 85mm  f/1.4 IFPerformances : 5Rapport qualite/prix : 5Cote : 
5Année : 1993
Pentax-FA 85mm  f/2.8 Soft  Performances : ?Rapport qualite/prix : 1Cote : 
1Année : 1996
Pentax-F Macro 100mm  f/2.8 Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
3Année : 1990
Pentax-FA Macro 100mm  f/2.8Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 4Cote : 
4Année : 1992
Pentax-F 135mm  f/2.8   Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 5Cote : 
5Année : 1990
Pentax-FA 135mm  f/2.8  Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 2Cote : 
2Année : 1992
Pentax-FA 200mm  f/2.8 ED-IFPerformances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
3Année : 1993
Pentax-F 300mm  f/4.5 ED-IF Performances : 4Rapport qualite/prix : 4Cote : 
5Année : 1990
Pentax-FA 300mm  f/4.5 ED   Performances : 3Rapport qualite/prix : 3Cote : 
3Année : 1991
Pentax-FA

OT Re: Definitely an old wives tale...

2001-03-28 Thread petit miam

And chicken fat for thickshakes? Actually I think that
might be true :)
 
> Anyone remember the old urban legend that McDonalds
> used used
> *worms* instead of beef (or at least as a
> supplement; urban
> legends usually aren't clear on these finer points)?


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Re: Tamron SP 35-135 F2.8 manual focus).

2001-03-28 Thread Alan Chan

>I have just seen this used lens for sale at a local camera shop.
>It has an adaptall KA mount and is going for $799.00.
>It's quite rare in my country, and seems an ideal portrait lens.
>It's nice and compact and seems in excellent order.
>
>Who's got one, and shall I buy it?

Don't know about this one but I bought a brand new SP 28-105/2.8 which 
sucked both mechanically and optically. Sadly, that's my first and last 
Tamron which was once famous for its quality.

regards,
Alan Chan

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