Re: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-S and FA31Ltd)
> The approach to write the number of roll instead of > the frame, works better > if you use 18 frames of a roll and 20 days pass > until your next shooting > session. You can also loose the notebook paper where > you wrote down the > frame numbers. Why write it on notebook paper, when you have a film canister to write on. You could even write it on the outside of the roll. You could write it all over your face if you really needed to. > You don't have to remember nothing. > You take the roll and > look at the number wrote in the canister. What (forgot the name) is trying to say is that it doesn't matter what number you write down, the memory number or the frame number. You just don't get it, do you. I think he is saying that you could just input the frame number and it would wind to the desired frame. You dial > that memory and the > camera goes automatically to the appropiate frame. And what if you wrote 15 instead of 14? Wouldn't matter so much if this was the frame number. You would lose one photo. But if it was the memory number, you would be stuffed. > The reset function works when you want to develop > the roll in the middle of > it and use the memory for another roll. Well, you wouldn't need the reset button if you were only inputting the frame number, would you. And how do you know it's not going to reset all your memories (i.e. 1 to 200). Well, I've had my rant now. Jody (AKA Grumpy Smurf). __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Aperture Question...
Hey everyone, just a quick question before hubby kicks me off the computer... This may seem like a totally dumb question, but please remember that everything I know about photography I have taught myself, so you can expect that I will have missed a few things here and there. At a BBQ on Friday night (don't say it, I know BBQ = meat = very naughty for Good Friday, but I'm a vego anyways, so there...my kids ate sausages though. hehe)... Anyways, at a BBQ on Friday night, a woman and I were talking about photography and she claimed that she had this friend who was an "expert" on landscape photography, which I basically know ZILCH about. She claimed that his number one tip was to shoot EVERYTHING in landscape photography at f22 to ensure maximum depth of field. Ok, so here is my question, (and please forgive me if I am wway off track here), but when you are shooting, say a lake, or a beach scene at 6.30 at night and you need more light, doesn't it make sense to shoot as wide open as possible? The lady I spoke to argued the point of depth of field with me, but unless I am rally mistaken, I thought that the theory behind a lens which focuses at "infinity" meant that after your subject is a certain distance away from the lens (eg. 8 metres on my Vivitar 28/2) the focusing switches to infinity which basically means that everything is in focus anyways? I mean, if that is not the case, than what is the use of having a "fast lens" when only a miniscule amount of your shot will be in focus? I am sure that I sound really backward and totally clueless to even very basic photography rules on this, but if her friend is truly an "expert" then wouldn't he be correct in his f22 theory? And if he is, can somebody please elaborate on this for me, cause I have definitely lost the plot somewhere Oh, btw, Merry Easter!! (Well, some people say "Happy Christmas" you know!) 8-) fairy. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Hehehe. Love your translation. Now are you sure that's potato, not potatoe? I really wondered about that 'canard' meaning 'duck'. Maybe there is an alternative meaning. Jody. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
A28-135/4 Pentax lens
Any opinions and price suggestions? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: I need someone to tout their own web page as an example of =how mineshould be=20
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sid, Sid. If I read you literally, you have it backward. Haven't you heard > the adage? "A man chases after a woman until she catches him." > > Sid Barras [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > I have acquired a very nice lady friend... > > Paul Franklin Stregevsky > Words must be chosen carefully when one is married to someone other than said acquired lady friend.. Sid - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
Haha all you people who don't know French. Think I'll have to print that out to read/interpret it. I'm getting a headache. Jody. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Possible New Member
Usually, I know how many stops I want to shift the image and just do that. If I am not sure I bracket. I think I could pop off three shots faster than you could meter the scene with your spot meter. But then, I am not a perfectionist. I've always felt that if the customer is satisfied with the photo it is good enough. --Tom PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > > In many instances, a spotmeter can be the most valuable tool in the box, > since it allows you to place the value of a particular part of the > picture. For example, you can ensure shadow detail if that is critical, > by metering the shadow area and placing it at the level you wish to > achieve. In some cases you may want to push the shadow all the way to > zone 5 (your 16% gray value, in other instances you might want it at > zone 3, a level where detail is just barely discernible. > Paul > > Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > > > > Well, evey incident meter I have used was also a reflective > > meter. Spot meter? Never found a need for one. Usually, get > > by fine with an incident meter and some common sense. > > --Tom > > > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > > > > Bob Walkden wrote: > > > > > > > Every photographer should have an incident light meter. > > > > > > ... as well as a spotmeter and a reflective light meter, I should > > > add. There are numerous situations where one or another may be the > > > better meter for a subject. > > > > > > -- > > > Shel Belinkoff > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > There are no rules for good photographs, > > > there are only good photographs. > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax LX w/FA-1 Boxed AS NEW !! @READ@
Spotted on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1230319719 Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Wimberly Sidekick
I am curious if anybody has used the Wimberly Sidekick with a large telephoto lens of about 300mm f/2.8 or larger. If you have, what did you think of it?
Re: Possible New Member
In many instances, a spotmeter can be the most valuable tool in the box, since it allows you to place the value of a particular part of the picture. For example, you can ensure shadow detail if that is critical, by metering the shadow area and placing it at the level you wish to achieve. In some cases you may want to push the shadow all the way to zone 5 (your 16% gray value, in other instances you might want it at zone 3, a level where detail is just barely discernible. Paul Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > > Well, evey incident meter I have used was also a reflective > meter. Spot meter? Never found a need for one. Usually, get > by fine with an incident meter and some common sense. > --Tom > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > > Bob Walkden wrote: > > > > > Every photographer should have an incident light meter. > > > > ... as well as a spotmeter and a reflective light meter, I should > > add. There are numerous situations where one or another may be the > > better meter for a subject. > > > > -- > > Shel Belinkoff > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > There are no rules for good photographs, > > there are only good photographs. > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First and hopefully last time
At 06:34 15/04/01, Jim A wrote: >I still get nervous when I do a wedding, even though I've done a few in my >time. I'm not a pro, only what they call an advanced amateur. A head and >shoulder shot of a couple I photographed a month ago appeared in the morning >paper today. No photo credits, but still fun to see my work there. >Who knows, you might want to do another one. Nononono. If I ever think about doing another wedding I'll get someone to commit me beforehand. :-) Cheers Jon Relax! Take life as it comes, you can't chase the sun, you can't race the wind - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First and hopefully last time
At 02:30 15/04/01, Tom wrote: >Doesn't it wear you out? I was surprised at how hard it is the first >time I did one. Felt like I'd run 15 miles... > >Congratulations, I'm sure they'll turn out well. Thanks for the kind words, Tom. I sure hope they do turn out. I think I'll worry about it until I see the results. I have sat down this morning and reviewed yesterday and find I'm more disappointed that I missed out on enjoying the wedding than anything else. I don't know that I'd do it again for a friend or family member, I think I'd rather be one of the hordes and enjoy myself. > > I thought if I > > made believe I knew what I was doing then people would think the same. It > > was a philosophy that seemed to work quite well. > >This seems to work no matter what the endeavor is Too true. Something that I should get tattooed to my forehead sometimes. :-) I was as nervous as hell, but found that others were more nervous than me, and loved being told what to do and where to go. Cheers Jon Relax! Take life as it comes, you can't chase the sun, you can't race the wind - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Possible New Member
I frequently use an incident meter and a spotmeter. I use the spotmeter to determine a value for the part of the scene that is most critical. I use the incident meter to compare that reading to the ambient light. If there is a discrepancy, I know which way I want to bracket. Sometimes I just use the spotmeter and gray card in lieu of the incident meter. Paul Bob Walkden wrote: > > Hi, > > this is true enough for a reflected light reading. For an incident > light reading you can take the meter-indicated reading, although with > the sun close to its zenith you should shield the lower part of the > dome from upward reflections. > > According to Sekonic snow has a reflectivity of approx 73%, declining > to about 60% after several days in urban areas. > > Every photographer should have an incident light meter. > > --- > > Bob > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Saturday, April 14, 2001, 1:43:22 PM, you wrote: > > > The choice of exposure is dependent on what you want the value of the > > object to be in the transparency or print, whether it be snow or coal. > > Remember that the meter thinks everything is gray with 18% reflectivity. > > That's the baseline. In the zone system, it's called zone 5. If you > > shoot full-frame snow at the meter reading, and your meter is accurate, > > the snow will be 18% gray, or approximately the color of snow in > > downtown Detroit. If you want white snow with some visible texture, > > you're talking about zone 7 for most films, zone 8 for some. Each zone > > is an f-stop, so if you want white snow, you'll overexpose by about two > > stops. If you're not familiar with a film, you might want to bracket > > from 1 1/2 to 3 stops over. > > Paul > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Thanx,Herb Keppler...
Hi Guys.. Every Pentaxian out there, in fact EVERY photographer, should read the May 2001 issue of 'POPULAR PHOTOGRAPHY', page 26 article by Herb Keppler...For those of you who can't or don't wanna buy the mag, I'll give you a quick synopsis: Question: Can you see the difference between pix shot with a $3000.00 Leica M-6 (50mm f2.0) and a Spotmatic (50mm f1.4) ? Answer: No (actually ,magazine repros from the Spot are stronger) After I read the 2 page article 6 times and my adrenalin started to cool down, I realised that there were some WONDERFUL themes here: 1. A photographer stepping out his/her front door with SLR in hand should NEVER, EVER be intimidated by the idea of not having the "best" (most expensive) gear. 2. The concepts " WE'LL NEVER WIN THE BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP WITHOUT xxyy SNEAKERS" and "THE CLOTHES WILL NEVER BE REALLY CLEAN WITHOUT wwwzz DETERGENT" are completely contrived and artificial. 3. Pentax < IRON and GLASS > is second to NONE. I'm glad you guys are out there. Bob G. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Web Sight
Dear group, I've been enjoying keeping up with list activity, but haven't subscribed for awhile. One reason for my re-subscribing now is my increasing urge to investigate the setting up of a web sight. Other than the rush derived from "showing off", I wonder about their relative effectiveness in terms of sales. After you get past your initial reaction of; "it all depends...", dare anyone give me their vague sense of the success (relative term) one might expect? An EXTREMELY naive question of course, however I'd be grateful for your learned responses. Thanx, Jack (is back) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax vs. Leica (or Any Camera vs Any Camera)
At a certain point, this all becomes nonsense. Resolution and "sharpness" tests on most of today's lenses demonstrate a capability far beyond what can be practically achieved by both gifted amateur and professional alike in almost all practical circumstances. 1.)The measured resolution is only for a specific exact distance, not the entire theoretical DOF. 2.)It can only be achieved on a bench or ungodly steady tripod with fixed subjects and in the absence of air density variations. 3.)The film used must be able to support the resolution. I don't care how much you may insist, no ISO 400 film will support 100 lpm. 4.)The development of the film must be first rate. 5.)At large apertures, focusing must be nearly perfect. At f/1.2, the focusing accuracy must be to within 0.006 mm for a perfect lens to resolve 100 lpm. If the lens is capable of 100 lpm at f/1.2 (unlikely) then the focusing accuracy must be to within 0.003 mm just to detect the capability. If you focus at the film plane, you may achieve this accuracy if your screen is very, very fine, you've allowed for the thickness of the protective layer on top of the emulsion plus perhaps 1/3 of the emulsion thickness, the contrast is excellent, the grain of the film is sufficiently fine, the scattering in the emulsion is minimal and your focusing eye is good. 6.)Exposure must be perfect. 7.)Forget getting any range finder to track with this kind of accuracy or any SLR to maintain this kind of mirror positioning accuracy over any substantial length of time. 8.)All lenses (except for real dogs) are created equal (sharpness wise) at f/8. Conclusion: It is highly unlikely (except for real dogs) that ultra resolution in our lenses will make our pictures any better. Contrast, low dispersion, freedom from chromatic aberrations, resistance to flair, and good bokeh are probably the real lens quality separators in almost all of our applications. Even this is moot, considering that many of the great photos of all time are not particularly sharp, have mediocre shadow or highlight detail or none at all, composition is judged by editors and created by cropping in the dark room, etc. Outside of studio work, the most important factor seems to be being in the right place at the right time, recognizing the moment for what it is, tripping the shutter at precisely the right moment, being lucky enough to actually have film in the camera and... serendipity. Just my opinion. Regards, Bob... Give blood. Play hockey. From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 14 Apr 2001, at 17:07, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > > Last week I looked at some shots made with Leica lenses. > > They had the "donuts" typical of the older Nikon designs, > > but were taken with a Leica. > > > > Second, it shows that Pentax, in older and newer designs, > > lacks nothing up against the competition. It's a matter > > of opinion on the good lenses. We've nothing to be > > embarassed about. > > Hi Collin, > > I admit to having all but little experience shooting with the Leica R lens range > however as you imagine I have a fair idea of the capabilities of Pentax glass > across the range and also Leica M new and old. I haven't read the article to > which you refer but I find your distillation of it confusing given my personal > experience. I have found most Leica lenses (particularly the new designs) to > be quite sharp across the plane of focus even wide open and most also have > very pleasing Bokeh characteristics, some of the older R glass were actually > Minolta designs, maybe this is where the confusion lies? I do agree though > that the Pentax glass holds up on its own, where it doesn't win in the > absolute sharpness stakes it usually wins WRT flare. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax vs. Leica (or Any Camera vs Any Camera)
Bob Blakely opined: > ... Outside of studio work, the most important factor seems to be > being in the right place at the right time, recognizing the moment > for what it is, tripping the shutter at precisely the right moment, > being lucky enough to actually have film in the camera and ... > serendipity. Geez Bob, why do you have to insist on making so much sense! !8^D - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shooting for pay (was re: Fairy Pics)
Harry Baughman wrote: > yes . she a few days ago and said she found someone to do it. Your lucky day :^) as in my earlier post, I would have done a non-complicated roll of 24 in such a situation - but they would need to also foot the film & processing costs. Roughly $2/frame shot w/ 4x6 proofs only. At least $50 must find it's way into my pocket from a shoot like this. They are buying my skills, knowledge and equipment. Of course, this shouldn't take more than ~1/2hr or so and the distance is short. As you learned, these are usually someone wanting something "on the cheap". I don't get too much of this sort of thing but an example is in my portraits section of my website URL'ed in the .sig below. Go to the "People Who Have Stood Still for Lens" part and look for the "anti-glamour senior portrait" of Katherine. The fringe benefits of this shoot were that it was also much fun and Mom ordered quite a good number of reprints of about 6 different frames. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Possible New Member
Well, evey incident meter I have used was also a reflective meter. Spot meter? Never found a need for one. Usually, get by fine with an incident meter and some common sense. --Tom Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Bob Walkden wrote: > > > Every photographer should have an incident light meter. > > ... as well as a spotmeter and a reflective light meter, I should > add. There are numerous situations where one or another may be the > better meter for a subject. > > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > There are no rules for good photographs, > there are only good photographs. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Super Program Exposure Dial: Two Kinds
My Super Program with 1197*** serial has 1000 maked on the ASA. Don't know when it was purchased new. Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Mystery lens - Sigma 28mm, F2.8 macro, manual focus, PK mount
It's 1:4 according to the barrel on mine. I have NO idea whether this is a "good" lens or not. The more I read here the confuseder I get, BUT... I'd rather get confused here than most other places. Mine has a tulip "perfect" lens shade. -Lon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It's called the Mini Wide II Macro. In 1999 one of them sold for $65 in EX > at KH. That's all I know; I don't have any specs or date of introduction. > But it continued to be sold long after the 28/2.8 was introduced in the > early or mid 90s. You might still find them new. > > Sigma designs many of its lenses to shoot a 1:4 magnification or better, so > I suspect that this lens is a 1:4 or at best 1:3. > > Martin Tammer wrote: > > > Would appreciate any information at all about this lens [Sigma 28/2.8 > Macro]. Can't find a thing > > on the Internet. > > Paul Franklin Stregevsky > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax vs. Leica
Hi Collin ... >From which Leica lenses did you see photos? Although I'll admit to a rather limited experience with Leica lenses (I've only three, and have only used five), all have been nice and sharp all across the image with no appreciable light falloff. The lenses I've used are the 1959 Summarit, the two latest iterations of the 35mm Summicron, a recent 50mm Summicron, and a Tele-Elmarit (90mm/2.8). All are just gorgeous WRT rendition and detail. At the least I'd have to say you're painting a generalization with too broad a brush (at least wrt Leica glass) Pentax glass is generally quite good, although I am embarrassed when it comes to some of the newer "consumer" lenses. Many of them are crap, and not worthy of the name Pentax silk-screened on to their plastic bodies. Of course, this is true of many consumer zooms, regardless of what name is stenciled on the body. One thing I will say in favor of the leica rangefinder lenses, and that is their optical quality is excellent almost without exception - like those old SMCT and SMCP lenses. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > Mr. Keppler's article in the Pop Photo that came today > is fascinating from two perspectives. First, it shows > the differences in lens design philosophy. Pentax has > always, from what I've observed, tried to spread resolution > evenly across the frame. Others, like Leica & Nikon in > particular, seem to concentrate it in the center. > > Last week I looked at some shots made with Leica lenses. > They had the "donuts" typical of the older Nikon designs, > but were taken with a Leica. > > Second, it shows that Pentax, in older and newer designs, > lacks nothing up against the competition. It's a matter > of opinion on the good lenses. We've nothing to be > embarassed about. > > Thank you, Mr. Keppler. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax vs. Leica
On 14 Apr 2001, at 17:07, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > Last week I looked at some shots made with Leica lenses. > They had the "donuts" typical of the older Nikon designs, > but were taken with a Leica. > > Second, it shows that Pentax, in older and newer designs, > lacks nothing up against the competition. It's a matter > of opinion on the good lenses. We've nothing to be > embarassed about. Hi Collin, I admit to having all but little experience shooting with the Leica R lens range however as you imagine I have a fair idea of the capabilities of Pentax glass across the range and also Leica M new and old. I haven't read the article to which you refer but I find your distillation of it confusing given my personal experience. I have found most Leica lenses (particularly the new designs) to be quite sharp across the plane of focus even wide open and most also have very pleasing Bokeh characteristics, some of the older R glass were actually Minolta designs, maybe this is where the confusion lies? I do agree though that the Pentax glass holds up on its own, where it doesn't win in the absolute sharpness stakes it usually wins WRT flare. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First and hopefully last time
I still get nervous when I do a wedding, even though I've done a few in my time. I'm not a pro, only what they call an advanced amateur. A head and shoulder shot of a couple I photographed a month ago appeared in the morning paper today. No photo credits, but still fun to see my work there. Who knows, you might want to do another one. Jim A. > From: Jon Hope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 23:22:43 +0800 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: First and hopefully last time > > Hi all > > Well, I am physically, emotionally and whatever elsely wrecked. I shot my > first wedding today, and I don't think I'll be doing it again in a hurry. > My brother got married and wanted me to shoot the wedding. So muggins here > agreed. That was my only mistake, I hope. > > Thanks to everyone that has posted over the last few months about wedding > photography. Your thoughts and advice were read and acted upon as well as I > could. I don't know whether I was successful, but I did manage to get > everyone to do what I wanted, which surprised me somewhat. I thought if I > made believe I knew what I was doing then people would think the same. It > was a philosophy that seemed to work quite well. > > Just for completeness sake. I used my Z-1p, with AF330FTZ flash. The lenses > I used were my F50/1.7 and F28/2.8 predominantly, I think I shot one or two > frames with my F135/2.8. The 28mm was used extensively for the formals. I > needed a wide angle as space was severely limited (the wedding and > reception were held in my brother's back yard, with a pergola and marquis > taking up most of the yard). Hopefully everything turns out OK, I'll know > in a few days when the films are developed and printed. I used 5 rolls of > Portra 160NC for the day which should have been enough. > > Cheers > > Jon > > > Relax! Take life as it comes, you can't chase the sun, you can't race the wind > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Possible New Member
Bob Walkden wrote: > Every photographer should have an incident light meter. ... as well as a spotmeter and a reflective light meter, I should add. There are numerous situations where one or another may be the better meter for a subject. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax vs. Leica
Mr. Keppler's article in the Pop Photo that came today is fascinating from two perspectives. First, it shows the differences in lens design philosophy. Pentax has always, from what I've observed, tried to spread resolution evenly across the frame. Others, like Leica & Nikon in particular, seem to concentrate it in the center. Last week I looked at some shots made with Leica lenses. They had the "donuts" typical of the older Nikon designs, but were taken with a Leica. Second, it shows that Pentax, in older and newer designs, lacks nothing up against the competition. It's a matter of opinion on the good lenses. We've nothing to be embarassed about. Thank you, Mr. Keppler. Collin *** Data Processing Consultation, Inc. Providing Broad-Spectrum Business Solutions and Assistance http://members.iol21.com/dpconsult [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Super Program plus ??
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Philippe Trottier wrote: > > No, but there is a Program Plus. It's a step down from the Super Program. > > I am 150% sure it was not a Program plus. Then it must be a Super Program, or else a Super A or Program A, which are just different names for the Super Program and Program Plus. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Features vs. build quality
"Artur Ledóchowski" wrote: > And I disagree (sorry:() with the statement that MZ-7 has the fastest AF in its >class. > I was able to compare it with F60 and EOS 300 and found out that EOS has the fastest > and most quiet. F60's AF is pretty much like that in MZ-7. Tests in both Practical Photography (uk) and FOTO (swe) states that the MZ-7 has a faster AF than EOS 300, F60 and Dynax 505 Si - with a standard 28-80 consumer zoom. In fact, I've read quite many magazine tests with complaints about the AF speed in the EOS 300. Low light response is also bad in the EOS 300, since it lights it's AF assist beam under brighter conditions than the competition does. Real life situations are of course different from lab tests done by magazine, so perhaps we can agree upon a statement like: "Under ideal conditions, the MZ-7 has the fastest AF in it's class with 28-80 standard zoom". Best regards, -- Roland Mabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.algonet.se/~rolamo - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Upgrade consumer grade bodies!
Mark Dalal wrote: > As someone who owns both systems, I can say that I like my Pentax lenses > (K28/3.5. K35/3.5, M50/1.4, & K105/2.8). I also like my Maxxum lenses > (50/1.7, 100/2.8 Macro, & 200/2.8). The optical quality from all my lenses > is very good. True, both some differencies may be important to point out: * Pentax AF lenses has since the birth of the F-serie in 1987, been able to send distance information to the camera. Only the newest G-lenses from Minolta sends this to the body (and, to my knowledge, only the Dynax 7 can take advantage of this information). * Even the budget offerings from Pentax has distance info scale and markings for infrared film. Minolta has not. Best regards, -- Roland Mabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.algonet.se/~rolamo - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Everready Case
Bill Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I was thinking about getting an everready case for my LX . . . I > usually only use the bottom half of the case . . . but want to use it > with the Grip. Does anyone know for sure if there are cutouts in the > case for the LX for the grip? If there aren't, then it probably isn't > worth the $75 US that B&H charges for it new. Well, the standard soft everready case, of which I have a sample right here, does not have cutouts for anything but the strap lugs. If one exists, that fits the camera with grip "B" and winder, I'd love to hear about it. Anyone? -tih -- The basic difference is this: hackers build things, crackers break them. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: First and hopefully last time
I've done a few wedding for friends with nothing but the following. K-1000, Sunpak 433D, 50/2 and a 35-135/3.5-4.5. Usually as a backup to the pro they hire but not always. The pro get's the standard shots. I deliver the candid's. In the end it's a nice feeling to be at their house and see your shot's on the wall and the pro's album under the coffee table. However, it is a gut wrenching day when you are the whole ball game. To offset the feelings of being wrecked just remember that what you are doing is so important that if the house catches fire most peoples priorties for escape are 1) The kids 2) Ourselves 3) The wedding pictures. -Original Message- From: Jon Hope [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:First and hopefully last time Hi all Well, I am physically, emotionally and whatever elsely wrecked. I shot my first wedding today, and I don't think I'll be doing it again in a hurry. My brother got married and wanted me to shoot the wedding. So muggins here agreed. That was my only mistake, I hope. Thanks to everyone that has posted over the last few months about wedding photography. Your thoughts and advice were read and acted upon as well as I could. I don't know whether I was successful, but I did manage to get everyone to do what I wanted, which surprised me somewhat. I thought if I made believe I knew what I was doing then people would think the same. It was a philosophy that seemed to work quite well. Just for completeness sake. I used my Z-1p, with AF330FTZ flash. The lenses I used were my F50/1.7 and F28/2.8 predominantly, I think I shot one or two frames with my F135/2.8. The 28mm was used extensively for the formals. I needed a wide angle as space was severely limited (the wedding and reception were held in my brother's back yard, with a pergola and marquis taking up most of the yard). Hopefully everything turns out OK, I'll know in a few days when the films are developed and printed. I used 5 rolls of Portra 160NC for the day which should have been enough. Cheers Jon Relax! Take life as it comes, you can't chase the sun, you can't race the wind - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Tele-Zoom Opinions?
I have the 80-320, purchased for its very useful range -- great for newspaper. I had also heard that there were some problems with softness, but I haven't experienced that much yet. I know there's been some discussion about what Paal terms the 3-D effect, but I can tell you it's true. I bought it a couple of years ago, and I tested it at our local wild safari. The results were excellent. I was shocked when I looked through the loupe and saw my furry subjects standing out from the background in an almost 3-D sort of way. I wasn't disappointed in the scans and prints, either. I get very good color and contrast from this lens, and every time I publish something shot with it, I get comments from other staffers about the quality of the shots. If you want something with this wide a range, I think it would be a good choice. It's one of my favorite lenses. Alin opined: As for Pentax FA 80-320/4.5-5.6, I think this lens deserves more than the bashing it usually gets here from our "prime" majority. It's on par with the commonly accepted reference FA 28-70/4 up to 200 mm, then it softens just a bit but still has very good contrast and excellent flare resistance. Around 80 mm is exceptionally good, perhaps rivaling with any prime. At 200 mm is below K 200/4, but not by much. Perhaps it's biggest advantage is the good image quality wide open. It slightly improves by stopping down but overall it appears to be optimized for wide-open performance at the detriment of absolute image quality at optimum apertures. Then Artur replied: Perhaps after I e-bay my Tamron, I'll get this FA 80-320. > Greetz > Artur > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 6x7 Stars in TV Sitcom
Ernest Alejandria wrote: > > On a similar vein, I was watching a documentary on HBO the other night about > a guy who photographs a bunch of naked people on the streets and I think he > uses the 6x7. When they showed the camera up close though, it looked liked > somebody masked off the brand marquee on the thing for some reason. I saw that one a while ago. It was interesting to see the way he worked. They also showed him getting dragged off by the cops... > > I watched the rest of the show just to see the venerable 6x7 in action > instead of trying to pick out the more shapely ones among the "models". > I think I'm either getting old or this Pentax bug had really hit me full > force. You're getting old. Haha. Actually, I don't remember the models being so hot. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First and hopefully last time
Jon Hope wrote: > > Hi all > > Well, I am physically, emotionally and whatever elsely wrecked. I shot my > first wedding today, and I don't think I'll be doing it again in a hurry. Doesn't it wear you out? I was surprised at how hard it is the first time I did one. Felt like I'd run 15 miles... Congratulations, I'm sure they'll turn out well. > I thought if I > made believe I knew what I was doing then people would think the same. It > was a philosophy that seemed to work quite well. This seems to work no matter what the endeavor is Good luck. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT New List
To keep us riff-raff out, I spose. Doug At 12:37 PM -05004/14/01, Len Paris caused thus to appear: > >I looked into it. They seem to want way too much information >from subscribers than any normal mailing list should ask for. I >wonder why? > >Len -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT New List
Oh, yes, I agree totally. Whatta bozo! And that guy with the Leicas needs to get out more, too. Doug At 12:16 AM -07004/14/01, martin tammer caused thus to appear: >Somebody should get a life. Far too many hours in that man's day. >--- Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Wow. The Cult of Sharpness now has a home, and a spiritual leader. >> >> All hail. >> >> >> At 9:19 PM -04004/13/01, Isaac Crawford caused thus to appear: >> >Here's someting I saw on the Leica list, and it may apeal to some of >> >you (us) gearheads out there. Its a list about optics and testing. The >> >guy who is starting the list is a very serious tester, and he has a >> >great website about optics in general and Leica optics in particular. >> >Here's the intro from the man himself: -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shooting for pay (was re: Fairy Pics)
yes . she a few days ago and said she found someone to do it. Harry B. wrote: > Since this message concerns pricing work i would like some thoughts on > this situation. i was ask to take some photos of two children ages 7 and > 5. i said i would since i like taking photos of kids. i would have had > to travel about 2 miles to the location , use one roll of film , have > it processed and would have given her all the photos taken for $50.00 > . was i asking to much? Definitely not. Had you asked the double amount you still would have been cheap. So what happened to the shoot? Did she decline your offer? Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 6x7 Stars in TV Sitcom
I was watching the original JAWS on TV the other night and I could have sworn that the photog clicking picks of the first shark caught by the residents of Amity was using a Spotmatic. This is the scene where Richard Dreyfus makes his entrance. Jerry in Houston
Re: OT New List
- Original Message - From: "Len Paris" Subject: RE: OT New List > I looked into it. They seem to want way too much information > from subscribers than any normal mailing list should ask for. I > wonder why? Jusy hit the reply button on the confirmation email and yer in. It seems like a really dry as dirt list though. At least so far, it is not high traffic. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Tele-Zoom Opinions?
Reports indicate that most of these lenses get softer beyond 200 mm. Do you really need 200-300? As John Mustarde noted, a better choice (sharper overall, lightweight) is the F/FA 80-200 f4.7-5.6. And as John also noted, even better was the old 70-210, if you can find one. Another poster asked about the best standard telezoom. A very good choice is the older FA Power Zoom 28-105. Very sharp. It's heavy, so some don't like it on MZ/X cameras. Or wait for the new 24-90 and 28-105 and see how they test. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax 6x7 Stars in TV Sitcom
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Shel Belinkoff > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 2:03 AM > To: Pentax List > Subject: Pentax 6x7 Stars in TV Sitcom > > > OK - it's late and I had a long day. I switch on the > tube and catch > an episode of Mad About You. Bada Bing ... there's a > 6x7 with a > Polaroid back playing a supporting role. The camera > got as much air > time as some of the stars. Big tele lens on that > sukka, too. Kool! > > So, now that I've shared that wonderful piece of > trivia, I'm going > to bed and catch a few s. G'nite. > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You shoulda turned on the Travel Channel and watched the model competition on "Bikini Blast" last night. It was most inspirational. Len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT New List
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Brewer > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 11:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT New List > > > Wow. The Cult of Sharpness now has a home, and a > spiritual leader. > > All hail. > I looked into it. They seem to want way too much information from subscribers than any normal mailing list should ask for. I wonder why? Len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
LX Everready Case
Hey gang, I was thinking about getting an everready case for my LX . . . I usually only use the bottom half of the case . . . but want to use it with the Grip. Does anyone know for sure if there are cutouts in the case for the LX for the grip? If there aren't, then it probably isn't worth the $75 US that B&H charges for it new. Illinois Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 6x7 Stars in TV Sitcom
Shel Belinkoff wrote: >OK - it's late and I had a long day. I switch on the tube and catch >an episode of Mad About You. Bada Bing ... there's a 6x7 with a >Polaroid back playing a supporting role. The camera got as much air >time as some of the stars. Big tele lens on that sukka, too. Kool. On a similar vein, I was watching a documentary on HBO the other night about a guy who photographs a bunch of naked people on the streets and I think he uses the 6x7. When they showed the camera up close though, it looked liked somebody masked off the brand marquee on the thing for some reason. I watched the rest of the show just to see the venerable 6x7 in action instead of trying to pick out the more shapely ones among the "models". I think I'm either getting old or this Pentax bug had really hit me full force. Paulo Ernest _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shooting for pay (was re: Fairy Pics)
Harry B. wrote: > Since this message concerns pricing work i would like some thoughts on > this situation. i was ask to take some photos of two children ages 7 and > 5. i said i would since i like taking photos of kids. i would have had > to travel about 2 miles to the location , use one roll of film , have > it processed and would have given her all the photos taken for $50.00 > . was i asking to much? Definitely not. Had you asked the double amount you still would have been cheap. So what happened to the shoot? Did she decline your offer? Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Super Program Exposure Dial: Two Kinds
Jeff, Maybe Cesar will sell you his old case, given that he knows where it is! As to flash, an AF200T will also do TTL flash with the Super Program, but it has no bounce/tilt adjustment and is a bit less powerful. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Just picked up (1 week ago) an SP in mint condition. Not even a minute scratch on it. I may have overpayed for it, but I couldn't resist it. Sold my not so mint (8+) PP to subsidize it. The only problem is that it came bare. So I'm in the market for a case or pouch to protect this beast. Also in the market for a 280T. >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PUG Stuff
Well kids, just few days to cutoff for the May gallery now. Lets get scanning!! William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Super Program Exposure Dial: Two Kinds
Paul, I thought I knew it all about the Super Program/Super A. Ha! Well, mine have it both ways, showing 800 & 1000 on the dials. Here is what I found on the Super Programs... 1030xxx - 800 1041xxx - 800 1063xxx - 800 (Super A) 1113xxx - 800 1199xxx - 1000 1507xxx - 1000 (Super A) So I would guess that a running change was made somewhere between serial # 1113xxx and 1199xxx. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Yes, Steve. All three SPs whose owners have weighed in (mine and two repliers) had serial numbers from 135 to 151. That suggests that William's hypothesis--that the 800 marking was changed to 1000 in response to new 1000-speed films--is a plausible one. Hi Guys, Ours does 400..800..1600. Ser # 1079xxx. Does it look like later models had 1000? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Paul Franklin Stregevsky >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Used-gear Web links: Time to share?
There are two in my area i check out a lot. http://www.henrys.com aand http://www.merklecamera.com The prices seem some what ok and the later will bargin Dave Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: My decision(dave's)...
Tanya.Other than the 4x6's my reprint rates are twice that i pay the lab(i have dealt with this lab for about 4 years and are very good to me)The 4x6's are a little more.I find other equine photographers charge $5,$15,$20 and $30 respectively.My main problem is what to charge for a location shoot,keeping in mind all but 1 camera is payed for but still have to buy and proccess film etc.Does your sitting fee reflect all your costs ie:labour,film,proccessing eq payments etc??I have some people interested in having me do on site shoots for there sponsers and selves but am wrestling with a rate.Is $60 to little and $200 toi much.The season is starting next week,i have my show locxations set(on spec shots) and hope tpo generate some portrait work. All comments welcome Dave Begin Original Message From: "Tanya & Russell Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 08:10:54 +1000 To: "Pentax Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: My decision... David J Brooks wrote: "BTW my prices are $3 per 4x6,$10 per 5x7 $15 per 8x10 and $25 per 11x14 to cheap" David, I don't know what your lab charges, but the prices you just quoted are virtually identical to what my local (non-proff.) lab charges JUST for enlargements. ie if I were to sell any of those shots at the sizes/prices you just mentioned, I would be selling at cost with no allowance even for film. However, from your thread I am assuming that you are making at least something on each of your sales, so I will leave it up to the others who have been advising me to offer their suggestions fairy. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Possible New Member
Hi . My SF-1 manual says to + for snow,back-lit subjects and large blue sky,and - for dark background,on stage and night scenes hope this helps Dave Begin Original Message From: "aimcompute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:50:58 -0600 To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Possible New Member There's this guy at work I get along well with. He knows I do photography and asked me a "metering with snow question". He couldn't remember because it had been a while... whether to push + or - to compensate. I asked him what kind of meter his camera had, because in general I find my PZ-1p does a pretty good job with the multi-segment metering. He said it has an 8-segment meter. That sparked my interest more and I asked what kind. Well, a PZ-1 and a PZ-1p. So he now has the list and gallery address. Sorry - I know this is mundane. It just surprised me. Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
ot: and bite me
It's 4 a.mI went into the darkroom yesterday at 2pm. Fuji 1600 is truly amazing. Seriously. It looks as good as any 400 speed film in my darkroom. Maybe my darkroom sucks. I raise my glass to the PDML! tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Upgrade consumer grade bodies!
Mark Dalal wrote: > > From: Artur Ledóchowski > > >I LOVE Pentax lenses, they're just excellent, even the cheapest ones are > far better than those of Minolta for example. > > I find such generalizations rather amateurish. This is clearly your opinion > and not fact. Test results don't bear this out nor due user reports. > As someone who owns both systems, I can say that I like my Pentax lenses > (K28/3.5. K35/3.5, M50/1.4, & K105/2.8). I also like my Maxxum lenses > (50/1.7, 100/2.8 Macro, & 200/2.8). This is interesting. I don't know much about Minolta except they changed the mount (and a student of mine takes really crappy pics with an old Minolta). Are your Minolta lenses the older MD or the newer AF lenses? You don't see any difference in flare resistance? Not baiting, just curious. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 6x7 Stars in TV Sitcom
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > OK - it's late and I had a long day. I switch on the tube and catch > an episode of Mad About You. Bada Bing ... there's a 6x7 with a > Polaroid back playing a supporting role. The camera got as much air > time as some of the stars. Big tele lens on that sukka, too. Kool! You watch tv? I thought you were one of us. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT New List
Somebody should get a life. Far too many hours in that man's day. --- Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow. The Cult of Sharpness now has a home, and a spiritual leader. > > All hail. > > > At 9:19 PM -04004/13/01, Isaac Crawford caused thus to appear: > > Here's someting I saw on the Leica list, and it may apeal to some of > >you (us) gearheads out there. Its a list about optics and testing. The > >guy who is starting the list is a very serious tester, and he has a > >great website about optics in general and Leica optics in particular. > >Here's the intro from the man himself: > > > > > >After considerable thought, I have finally decided to create my > >own > >list. It is focussed on the quest for and study of high quality > >photographic imagery. > >There is so much information and experience about this topic (also > >known > >as image clarity or the imaging chain) at other lists like Minox, > >Olympus or Pentax, that is being disregarded or mis-interpreted, > >but is > >of high relevance to the pursuit of optimizing the > >optical-mechanical-chemical potential of the analogue > >photographic > >process. > >Anyone can post to the list, using whatever make of camera, but my > >personal contributions will be Leica-biased. > >There is only one requirement I wish to address: if you post > >results, > >make sure there is a solid scientific basis for your results. > >I would prefer this list to contain the most substantiated and > >trustworthy facts about this most fascinating and rewarding > >topic. As I > >am aware that the quest for ultimate image quality transgresses > >the > >borders of camera companies, I would hope that this list can > >present > >facts that are rewarding to anyone who is in the same area of > >interest > >and can accept that most current photographic companies do deliver > >products that need an objective assessment to be used in the most > >rewarding way. > >It is my conviction that the joy of photography is to be found in > >the > >result, not the instrument. I am also convinced that the use of > >the > >Leica camera (M and R) can enhance this joy considerably, but only > >when > >the operator has an open eye to the general optical, physical, > >chemical > >and engineering basics that govern any photographic process and > >the way > >Leica has implemented these facts and theories. > >The wealth of knowledge that is collected by as example Minox or > >Hasselblad users, is of interest to anyone in the same area of > >searching > >for the ultimate in image quality and I am sure that sharing this > >knowledge is a worthwhile effort that can benefit all, whatever > >the > >choice of camera model. > >The goal of this list would be to be a forum for ideas and methods > >for > >image evaluation and methods and techniques for improving upon the > >state > >of the art of image quality, which comprises all aspects of > >photography > >from exposure to development and enlargement and choice of > >materials > >(films, lenses, cameras, tripods, filters, enlargers, etc). > > > >The name of the list: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To subscribe: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Erwin > > > > > > I hope to see some of you there... > > > >Isaac > -- > Douglas Forrest Brewer > Ashwood Lake Photography > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.alphoto.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
