Re: lens of the week: 15/3.5 and A 15/3.5

2001-04-19 Thread Philippe Trottier

Hello,
Bokeh ??? Let's say at 3.5, if you have something really close and Infinity,
you might have a slight fuzzy edge.

I had the fun to use the SMC-A 15mm/3.5 last week, I didn't buy it, but it
is now on my wish list. It is about the size of a 24-90mm good zoom, the
weight makes you think it is made whole out of glass, the feeling I like
very much, Heavy, focus is easy and fast 1/2 turn I think.

I have to agree the colors rendition is *NICE*

Philippe

> > SMC 15/3.5
> > SMC-A 15/3.5
> >
> > What is your opinion of this lens?  Is it any good?  What do you use it
> > for?  What do you like about it?  How well built is it?  How is the lens
> > handling (weight, size, etc.)? How about optical qualities: resolution,
> > contrast, color, distortion, bokeh, light fall-off, etc.?
>
> I've had the non-A for about two weeks and run maybe 24 frames past it.
> Still trying to figure out how best to use it. Impressive build quality,
> with the best color, contrast and sharpness of all my (few) lenses except
> the 400A*/2.8 ED IF. Really catches the flavor of the early morning
> sunlight, my favorite shooting time of day. So far very flare-resistant
> for so wide a lens. I keep the winder on my LX all the time, so it
balances
> nicely in my hands; w/o the winder I think it'd be a somewhat nose-heavy
rig.
>
> Bokeh? I haven't yet opened up enough to notice any...  :-)


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Re: FNAC catalog of reflex cameras and lenses

2001-04-19 Thread Rob Studdert

On 20 Apr 2001, at 2:22, Peter Spiro wrote:

> They generally have good opinions of Pentax cameras and the lower price 
> Pentax zooms (in terms of quality relative to price).  However, the only 
> Pentax lens that hits the four star level is the 50mm f/1.7.  The 43mm and 
> 85mm f/1.4 both only rate three stars at f/8.

Hmm, and it appears that the SMCPFA 20f2.8 gets one star only for 
performance wide open and at f8

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Tanya's photo adventures

2001-04-19 Thread Bob Keefer



I just wanted to say how much I've been enjoying reading the 
posts from Tanya about her portrait ventures, and the various responses from 
other members. This is in part because I'm starting off my own portrait business 
here in Oregon, though not with quite as much verve (I don't have either the 
stomach or time right now to book 20+ sittings in advance.)
 
Hope you'll keep us all posted on your progress.
 
Bob Keefer


Countdown to PUG

2001-04-19 Thread William Robb

Well kids, its about a day to cutoff for the May Gallery. We
still have lots of spaces to fill in the index page.
William Robb

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Subject: KMP lens of the week [2]

2001-04-19 Thread Tanya & Russell Mayer



Boz wrote:
 
"Just a few additions.  My intention is to 
gather comments by single peopleand write a summary..."
 
Does this mean that married people can't submit their 
comments? ;-)
 
fairy.


Re: Male Aussie Centrefold, enjoy :-)

2001-04-19 Thread William Robb

The whole site is fabulous, Thanks Rob!
William Robb
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Subject: Male Aussie Centrefold, enjoy :-)


> http://www.wises.com.au/images/people/mlende.htm


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Re: Vivitar Flashes

2001-04-19 Thread Bigtoeno2

I have and use the 285HV. Its a great machine, but it is definitely a 
beast. It even dwarfs my less than small KX, and makes my superprogram look 
like a toy. I like the auto capablities and the "calculator dial" on the side 
which keeps you from having to fumble around in your head with f-numbers and 
ISO and distance and stuff.

brent
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Re: ME manual

2001-04-19 Thread Ken Archer

Try:

http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm

"Frits J. Wüthrich" wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have a website where I can download the manual for the ME?
> 
> Frits Wüthrich
> http://www.postkoets.btinternet.co.uk/
> Aren't your pictures worth a Pentax?
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Re: Sears 135mm/2.8 lense info needed

2001-04-19 Thread Paul Jones

Hi,

I think i'll give it a miss as it wont fit on my MZ5n. also i had hopes it 
would go to atleast 1:2.  Have to hold out for a Pentax 100/2.8 :)

Thanks for everyones replies.

Paul


>From: Todd Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Sears 135mm/2.8 lense info needed
>Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:45:46 -0500
>
>
>It doesn't get anywhere close to 1:1 - it only gets down to 1:5, meaning
>some 135's focus closer that aren't "Macro".  Optically it's quite good
>from what I have found, I think it performs best in close distances as
>opposed to infinity, though I haven't shot any tests with it.
>
>Compared to the M 135 F3.5, it's considerably larger, takes 52mm filters,
>and only stops down to F22.  Half stop clicks are present from F2.8-F16.
>Build quality is pretty good, the lens feels solid (and it's fairly heavy),
>the aperture ring turns quite easily, it's not as "notcty" as the M or A
>series.  Big huge easy to grip focus ring combined with a fairly large
>throw make focusing pretty easy.  You go into the Macro mode by focusing to
>the minimum focus distance, and then turning a ring in the very front with
>marked settings of 1:7, 1:6, and 1:5.  Didn't take me long to get used to.
>
>Todd
>
>At 10:48 PM 4/19/01 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >can any one give me any info on this lense? Its a macro lense, not sure 
>if
> >its down to 1:1 and it takes a 52mm filter.
> >
> >I'm wondering what its like opticaly, as a macro lense and its build
> >quality.
> >
> >Also does any one know if it they go down to 1:1? if not what size 
>extension
> >tube would i need to get it there?
> >
> >Thanks
>
> >
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Re: going back??

2001-04-19 Thread aimcompute

The graininess of course is not a function of the camera, but of the film
and possibly processing.

Try some Fuji and see what you think. :-)

You may want to attach a manual lens and take a couple shots with that.  And
put the AF lens on your manual bodies and take a couple of test shots.  That
could possibly isolate the perceived problem to the AF lens if it is faulty
somehow.  Also focus the AF lens manually on the AF body and snap a shot,
and then take the same photo allowing the body  to focus.  Compare them to
see if it is focusing correctly.

Tom C.

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From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:18 PM
Subject: going back??


> Well I'v put about 7-8 rolls of various film through my sf-1,test rolls
for flash work,indoor
> flash horse work and general outdoor stuff and 1 roll indoor jumping,no
flash.Film used, konica
> 100-200 Kodak max 400,800 and 1 Kodak Gold found deep in the bag.Not to
sure i like this
> camera.One thing is if i want to look at my f stop it is on top and i have
to keep the camera
> pointed at the subject and strain over the l.e.d.,the handle is big and
feels ocward when i
> shoot vertical,which i do alot.Also find if i try to change shutter
speed/etc while composing a
> shot(eye to view finder) i quite often hit the iso instead of the mode
switch,plus alot of my
> head/shoulder horse/rider shots with a dull sky seem to be ery grainy
even with 100/200
> film.I shot another ef test roll today and will try another indoor roll of
800 this weekend.If i have
> not convinced my self to keep it by Sunday i quess back it goes.
> Sorry for the rant group but i quess 30 years of manual focus cameras has
worn off on me.My
> K1000 and SP 500 give me better results,unless i'm doing something really
wrong with the
> sf-1
>


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120mm for auction

2001-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell

I'm selling a 120mm F2.8 SMC-M lens at ebay
if anyone's interested:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1230224898
JCO

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Re: ME Super/MX Batteries

2001-04-19 Thread Rob Studdert

On 19 Apr 2001, at 15:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Tom & Bucky,
> 
> Interesting.  I have never had problems with the double battery in the Super Program 
>or the ME.  On the other hand, I noticed the LX display seemed to pulse when I let go 
>of the shutter release today.  I opened the battery compartment and found a double in 
>it.  I put in 2 unused MS76's from '95 
and the pulsing went away.  This has happened before.

Hi Bob,

Doesn't the pulsing indicate a discharged battery? I have been using the 
1/3N 3V lithium cells on all my cameras (Pentax/Leica) for many years now 
and have had no problems whatsoever.

Cheers,

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going back??

2001-04-19 Thread David J Brooks

Well I'v put about 7-8 rolls of various film through my sf-1,test rolls for flash 
work,indoor 
flash horse work and general outdoor stuff and 1 roll indoor jumping,no flash.Film 
used, konica 
100-200 Kodak max 400,800 and 1 Kodak Gold found deep in the bag.Not to sure i like 
this 
camera.One thing is if i want to look at my f stop it is on top and i have to keep the 
camera 
pointed at the subject and strain over the l.e.d.,the handle is big and feels ocward 
when i 
shoot vertical,which i do alot.Also find if i try to change shutter speed/etc while 
composing a 
shot(eye to view finder) i quite often hit the iso instead of the mode switch,plus 
alot of my 
head/shoulder horse/rider shots with a dull sky seem to be ery grainy even with 
100/200 
film.I shot another ef test roll today and will try another indoor roll of 800 this 
weekend.If i have 
not convinced my self to keep it by Sunday i quess back it goes.
Sorry for the rant group but i quess 30 years of manual focus cameras has worn off on 
me.My 
K1000 and SP 500 give me better results,unless i'm doing something really wrong with 
the 
sf-1

Regards

Dave
Ps sent an e-mail to the store i bought it.Hope they will exchange for a spare k body

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Re: going back??

2001-04-19 Thread tom

David J Brooks wrote:
> 

> plus alot of my
> head/shoulder horse/rider shots with a dull sky seem to be ery grainy even with 
>100/200
> film.I shot another ef test roll today and will try another indoor roll of 800 this 
>weekend.If i have
> not convinced my self to keep it by Sunday i quess back it goes.

The other stuff having to do with handling is a personal thing. It *is*
different from what you're used to, but maybe you can get used to it.
Maybe not...after all, maybe 30 years of your K1000 and Spotmatics has
got you in a groove.

I'm not sure why the camera would be at fault for your grainy skies. Do
they have an odd color (brownish or puky)? They may be underexposed,
which I guess you could blame on the camera's meter, but again, it's
probably consistent and maybe you could get used to it. 

It might be the film.

Maybe a ZX-5n might be more to your liking, it's got a more conventional
layout.

Good luck.

tv
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re me manual

2001-04-19 Thread David J Brooks

Try www.craigcamera.com he has tons of manuals

Dave

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Too many features?

2001-04-19 Thread John Coyle

Recent threads about the feature set of various cameras and whether we use them 
set me to wondering whether others in the group find themselves heading the 
same way as I am now?

For background, I have a Pentax MZ/ZX5, an ME, a Rolleicord, and can use my 
wife's Pentax Espio if I wish.  I find myself nowadays using the MZ5 most of 
the time, but use the others where appropriate.  I have range of prime lenses 
from 28mm to 400mm, and three zooms,  28-80, 28-105 and 35-135, all 
consumer-grade.

So which features do I use/not use?

Auto-exposure?  I am tending to use the MZ5 much like  a semi-auto camera, by 
setting either aperture or shutter speed according to circumstance, and then 
letting the camera work out the other half of the combination. Or I may take 
total control!

For instance, the other day I was shooting an Aboriginal cultural display, and 
needed to use fill-in flash (AF330FTZ) for some shots to get balanced lighting: 
so I set the shutter-speed to the X-sync setting.  On 100 ASA film, this gave 
me an auto-aperture of f9.5, which was fine because I needed to keep the DOF I 
obtained down to blur the background.   The settings I chose worked out 
beautifully: with some of the dancers, there was just a small amount of blur in 
their legs when they were moving quickly, which enhanced the result, but the 
flash kept the colours vivid and without dense shadows.  No doubt the TTL flash 
logic actually controlled exposure here.

Auto-Focus?  With a collection of mainly M-series lenses, the AF is a feature I 
can't use a lot of the time.  With my particular AF zoom lenses, the MZ5 does 
have a problem with moving subjects in low-light situations.

Power or auto-winders?  I don't have a problem.  At least you can never miss a 
shot by forgetting to wind on.

Exposure Compensation?  Don't use it very often, but then I have seldom been in 
a position to push/pull colour negative film.  Might use it again now I've 
reverted to slides.

Selective metering? Yes, I do use it.

Panorama format?  Same again: as I have said before, if I can crop out unwanted 
parts of the scene in the camera, I think it's worth doing.

Very high shutter speeds?  Not often: my sort of photography seldom calls for 
anything faster than 1/500.  I'm very comfortable with the knowledge that I 
have 1/2000 available though.

Very fast lenses?  Yes, I'd love to have those really fast lens available - but 
my budget won't stand it!  And I can't help thinking of how many of us who have 
been in photography for many years were gob-smacked when f2 lenses began to be 
superseded by f1.7/1.8 as the standard 50mm lens in the 60's and 70's, and how 
we cheerfully shot in all sorts of light with our f3.5 Tessar designs.

I've also gone back to shooting slide film: like another member, having had a 
whole bunch of negative film printed with a distinct blue cast, I'd rather not 
have errors introduced by another party. I can always select the keepers for 
myself and make prints digitally as required, and I can convert them to 
grayscale if they would work better that way.

It's a bit like modern software, I guess: I wouldn't claim to use all of the 
features all of the time, but sometimes an obscure feature can be a 
life-saver...

So yes, I probably will buy an MZ-S (next month if it's been released in Hong 
Kong), because I like the specification very much: however, I'll probably go 
for either a 20/24mm or the 77mm Limited prime lens rather than another zoom.

Sorry for the long post, just felt the need for it.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia

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Re: Vs: Vivitar Flashes

2001-04-19 Thread Ken Archer

I have one new 283 and three old (made in Japan) 283s.  The three old
ones sure make good slaves.  BTW what is considered a "modern electronic
camera".  Everything I have is a ME Super, K1000 or Spotmatics.  Any
danger in using one of the old 283s as a backup?

Raimo Korhonen wrote:
> 
> Yep - it is the Made in Japan versions which have too high trigger voltage. Newer 
>versions are safe.
> All the best!
> Raimo
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> 
> -Alkuperäinen viesti-
> Lähettäjä: Ray Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Päivä: 19. huhtikuuta 2001 23:27
> Aihe: Re: Vivitar Flashes
> 
> >I remember reading something on the internet (maybe on this site) about the
> >"discharge voltage" on the V283 flash units being too high for modern
> >electronic cameras.  SOMETHING ABOUT FRYING THE CAMERA.  SOUNDED SERIOUS.
> >
> >But, I also vaguely remember reading that it is only the oldest models of
> >V283 (maybe 285 too).
> >
> >Finally, I remember reading that Vivitar Tech Support can tell by serial
> >number (and/or country of manufacture) whether the unit is to be 'feared' or
> >not.
> >
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Re: Sears 135mm/2.8 lense info needed

2001-04-19 Thread Todd Stanley


It doesn't get anywhere close to 1:1 - it only gets down to 1:5, meaning
some 135's focus closer that aren't "Macro".  Optically it's quite good
from what I have found, I think it performs best in close distances as
opposed to infinity, though I haven't shot any tests with it.  

Compared to the M 135 F3.5, it's considerably larger, takes 52mm filters,
and only stops down to F22.  Half stop clicks are present from F2.8-F16.
Build quality is pretty good, the lens feels solid (and it's fairly heavy),
the aperture ring turns quite easily, it's not as "notcty" as the M or A
series.  Big huge easy to grip focus ring combined with a fairly large
throw make focusing pretty easy.  You go into the Macro mode by focusing to
the minimum focus distance, and then turning a ring in the very front with
marked settings of 1:7, 1:6, and 1:5.  Didn't take me long to get used to.

Todd

At 10:48 PM 4/19/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>can any one give me any info on this lense? Its a macro lense, not sure if
>its down to 1:1 and it takes a 52mm filter.
>
>I'm wondering what its like opticaly, as a macro lense and its build
>quality.
>
>Also does any one know if it they go down to 1:1? if not what size extension
>tube would i need to get it there?
>
>Thanks

>
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ME manual

2001-04-19 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

Does anyone have a website where I can download the manual for the ME?

Frits Wüthrich
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Re: OT: autofocus motor

2001-04-19 Thread Todd Stanley


I would think so.  I would also think that motors in the camera may fail
sooner if large heavy lenses are used a lot, as then the likely
underpowered motor will have to work harder, trying to do the job of a
larger motor.

Todd

At 05:08 PM 4/18/01 -0300, you wrote:
>
>What about AF motors dependability and longevity?
>Only when Todd put together all his considerations that I noticed that, when
>the AF motor is in the body,  it's used all the time with every AF lens you
>may have. When the AF motor is in the lens, you're not using the SAME motor
>all the time. When it's used all the time, it will, I guess, be susceptible
>to failure sooner, isn't it?
>Does Pentax and/or other manufactures provide a figure about how long will a
>AF motor last? Will it need --- or accept --- any kind of maintenance, like
>other kind of electric motors?
>I'm not saying that having the AF motor in the lens system is better. I'm
>just curious about this aspect of the Pentax AF system.
>Do any of you have any information or idea about it?
>Best,
>   Eduardo.
>
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Re: Rare 'Soft K 85 2.2' Lens

2001-04-19 Thread Donald Ross

Thanks Paul

Don
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: Rare 'Soft K 85 2.2' Lens


> See these photos (forget the subject matter - taken to test the lens)
taken
> with that lens here:
> > (ppro)
> (closet K-Mount user)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Donald Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 5:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Rare 'Soft K 85 2.2' Lens
>
>
> I just received this lens from an Ebay auction and was surprised to find
> that it is really 2.2.  When I read the description, I thought it was a
> typo.  However, I've since found it on Boz's page.  I have not, however,
> been able to find an evaluation, good or bad, of this lens.  Are any of
you
> learned Pentaxians familiar with this lens, and if so, what can I expect
in
> the way of performance?  It really is a strange looking beast mounted.
The
> aperature scale (limited from 2.2 - 5.6) is at the bottome of lens with a
> sliding gray scale on the top. The focusing ring is narrow and up close to
> the body.  It will take some getting use to.  All comments are welcome.
> Have a great day.
>
> Don
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Pentax FA 18/2.8 Limited

2001-04-19 Thread Pål Jensen

Nothing is certain or official yet but I've been told that the forthcoming 18mm is a 
Limited lens. Take it with the mandatory grain of salt though.


Pål

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RE: lens of the week: 2000/13.5 and M 2000/13.5

2001-04-19 Thread O'Neill, William


Pål said:
If you can focus it! I had troubles with the 1000/11. Try to stop down any lens to 
F:11 and try focusing it. A 2000mm will be 10 times worse; remeber the focusing 
accuracy involved. Its pretty much hopeless in my experience. Focusing bracketing is 
mandatory.

I say:
Yes, but Pål, in the domestic spy business, all you need to do is be able to recognize 
the guy/gal cavorting with the other guy/gal.  Wall hanging quality isn't such an 
issue for most of the clients.
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Vs: Vivitar Flashes

2001-04-19 Thread Raimo Korhonen

Yep - it is the Made in Japan versions which have too high trigger voltage. Newer 
versions are safe.
All the best!
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Aihe: Re: Vivitar Flashes


>I remember reading something on the internet (maybe on this site) about the 
>"discharge voltage" on the V283 flash units being too high for modern 
>electronic cameras.  SOMETHING ABOUT FRYING THE CAMERA.  SOUNDED SERIOUS.
>
>But, I also vaguely remember reading that it is only the oldest models of 
>V283 (maybe 285 too).
>
>Finally, I remember reading that Vivitar Tech Support can tell by serial 
>number (and/or country of manufacture) whether the unit is to be 'feared' or 
>not.
>
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Re: Sears 135mm/2.8 lense info needed

2001-04-19 Thread Tom Wannenburg


I have one I bought for $48.  It is quite good for the price.  My focus ring
wobbles a little but it is otherwise solid.  As a macro it is so - so, you
need to stop down.  It is quite sharp and very nice for portraits in the non
- macro range even wide open.

One thing, you cannot use it on a ZX5n, or probably any of the new autofocus
bodies:  There is a screw that gets stuck in the AF drive hole.  It works
great on my Program Plus though.

Regards,
Tom Wannenburg
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Re: Re[2]: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt!

2001-04-19 Thread Tonghang Zhou


Nikon already published the list price, no guess work needed.
Check their web site for the announcements.  If I remember right,
it was ($899?) much cheaper than MZ-S's list price.

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On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> Another factor is the price.
> FM3A seems excellent, but it will cost A LOT. Just look the price of a FM2n, add
> all the features the new body has, and the price will be close to the F3.
> The five letters in front of pentaprism housing adds another 100 or 200 bucks :
> - ).
> Just my two cents.

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Re: MZ-S is really good ?

2001-04-19 Thread Pål Jensen

Pentax clover wrote:


> The problem is not only that there is some features  find missed, but for
> the price it would be sold, it is not easy to accept this fact. If I was
> richer, I will buy it. But it is not my case, and not the case of most of
> Pentaxists, that's why I hope this change.
> If you think its price is the good price, so I am wrong whatever I said. But
> compare to other SLR (Nikon F-90x, Minolta Maxxum7, or Dynax7, for example)
> I find it too expensive.

This is where I have problems with your argument. I fully accept that you find it too 
expensive for you and that it lacks some features you may want. However, thats totally 
different from claiming that the MZ-S is too expensive and basically isn't worth its 
price.
The MZ-S is a unique product compared to the competition: no other camera at this 
price offer that heavy duty construction; no pro or semi pro comparable camera is 
equally small and lightweight: no other slr offer RTF flash that synchs up to 1/6000s; 
no other slr offers a more quick and flexible interface for shooters who mainly use 
aperture priority and manual mode (this means the majority of wildlife and nature 
shooters). In addition, the MZ-S really has many features. For many these are features 
worth paying for. 


Pål


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Re: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt!

2001-04-19 Thread John Francis

Alin Flaider wrote:
> 
> I wrote:
> 
> AF> ...Only wished Pentax
> AF> viewfinders showed a full 6 EVs scale instead of the current 4.
> 
>   This was stupid of me, of course current MZ, PZ bodies display a
> full 6 (six) EV scale. Mea culpa. Anyway, it seems it's not enough for
> me, as I could see this night at the theatre. I think I could do better
> with a -5 +2 scale.

If you play around with the ISO rating, you can get a -4 +2 scale ...
(It's still labelled as -3 +3, of course, but you can allow for that)


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Re[2]: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens

2001-04-19 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

just a thought, but maybe the ones who _did_ use filters are the ones
lucky enough not to be featured in "Requiem" !

---

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Thursday, April 19, 2001, 3:04:15 PM, you wrote:

> I was looking through "Requiem" last night and noticed that none of
> the pictures I saw of photographers with their cameras had filters
> on their lenses.  And this was in a war zone.  What was also
> interesting was how these unprotected lenses produced so many
> remarkable photos.


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Re: Thoughts on the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 please?

2001-04-19 Thread Tiger Moses

I just got on yesterday!  This is a nice, but BIG lens.
Has a wonder tripod bracket, which may get in your way for mostly manual
focus use.
I haven't shot anything yet, but it looks nice.
It feels very solid, and comes with nice hood and fancy carry case.

If you don't have autofocus body yet, wait until you do, prices may drop or
maybe Pentax will have ANtiVibration stuff by then!
$799 at B&H if I remember right?

At 07:49 PM 4/19/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am considering replacing my Tokina 80-200 f2.8 manual focus lens with a 
>later autofocus equivalent. There's a Tokina to be found now and then, 
>but also I hear good things about the Sigma 70-200 2.8 lens. Not having 
>had any Sigma gear before, I wonder if anyone would like to comment 
>generally on their performance, or maybe on the lens in question if 
>possible.
>
>It would be used for a while on MXs, but (hopefully) within a year or so, 
>on a new Pentax digital camera. I use manual focus rather a lot (!), and 
>will most likely continue to do so as old habits die hard (although I'm 
>certainly not averse to newfangled methods). Accordingly, what can you 
>tell me about the manual focus facility, if anything?
>
>Finally, I have searched for lens reviews for the Sigma, but haven't been 
>very successful - if anyone can suggest a website with a review of this 
>lens I'd be grateful.
>
>Many thanks,
>
>Cotty
>
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Re: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt!

2001-04-19 Thread Alin Flaider

I wrote:

AF> ...Only wished Pentax
AF> viewfinders showed a full 6 EVs scale instead of the current 4.

  This was stupid of me, of course current MZ, PZ bodies display a
full 6 (six) EV scale. Mea culpa. Anyway, it seems it's not enough for
me, as I could see this night at the theatre. I think I could do better
with a -5 +2 scale. User definable? Forget it Pentax, I'm rambling.

  Servus, Alin


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Re: MZ-S is really good ?

2001-04-19 Thread Pentax Clover

Dear Paal,
> Why do you expect Pentax to give away the MZ-S? Do you expect Nikon to
reduce the F100 by 50%?
> What other camera offer the MZ-S features and a fully heavy duty metal
body for less cash?
If Nikon makes the F-100 50% less, I also will be agree, you know !
For a less price, in France, you can get a Nikon F-90x (N-90X in US, if I
remember  rightly)

> What camera is this? The MZ-S don't lack features. It has among the most
sophisticated flash system on the planet with RTF flash synch up to 1/6000s
something no other camera do. It also has a unique dataimpriniting feature
far better than anything else since the data follow the picture.
I thought it was up to 1/180 !
For Data printing, it is a good thing, but it is not really what I use the
most. And when you use inversive mounted, you cannot read the information
(whatever the system is ion the top or between the pictures)

> Admittedly, if you nedd many fps the MZ-S isn't the best thing but then no
Pentax are. If you really need machnegunning images the only game in town is
the EOS-1v or the F5. I wonder then what you do with an MZ-3 in the first
place then...
Guess what I am doing with my MZ-3...?
I never use AF almost of the time. Because I know it cannot allow me to do
picture this way.
But if I can go up to 4 or 5 fps, I may use it in a  new way but also the
way I am doing for the moment.
I used to own a Canon ELAN II (EOS 50e), it shows that sometimes, I need
such a high rate.
If I buy a better SLR, is it forbidden for me to wait for such a
possibility.
As I say, I would buy a MZ-S if its price is lower than 933US$. At last, in
France, it might be sold about 20% more than in the US. So you might
understand why I find it too expensive.
The problem is not only that there is some features  find missed, but for
the price it would be sold, it is not easy to accept this fact. If I was
richer, I will buy it. But it is not my case, and not the case of most of
Pentaxists, that's why I hope this change.
Will you buy the MZ-S if it was sold less than the price of 999USS$ ? Yes,
but you won't buy it if it was sold at 1299US$. I think Pentax could make
the MZ-S a blockbuster if the price is lower or the features are enhance as
I said.
If you think its price is the good price, so I am wrong whatever I said. But
compare to other SLR (Nikon F-90x, Minolta Maxxum7, or Dynax7, for example)
I find it too expensive.
Selling a SLR is not easy, that is why I hope the MZ-S will show a lower
prie, in order to make new users attracked. If you prefer to stay few user
of Pentax (what I could really understand, because this is a way to be
different), well, I understand the MZ-S is really the perfect Pentax SLR.
For the moment, I consider the MZ-S as the best SLR Pentax has ever design.
BUT I also consider Pentax is able to make a much better flagship. If you
also think so, I will be happy to know.
See you all !
PPS: you know, ^because of writing about the MZ-S, I am thinking of buying
it, even it will not match with my expectations...This is the Pentax
power...8-)


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Re: ME Super/MX Batteries

2001-04-19 Thread aimcompute

Bob, if the MS76's were from 1995, maybe THAT's why the pulsing stopped.
;-)

Tom C.

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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: ME Super/MX Batteries


> Tom & Bucky,
>
> Interesting.  I have never had problems with the double battery in the
Super Program or the ME.  On the other hand, I noticed the LX display seemed
to pulse when I let go of the shutter release today.  I opened the battery
compartment and found a double in it.  I put in 2 unused MS76's from '95 and
the pulsing went away.  This has happened before.
>
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
>
> Tom C. wrote:
>
> >>That's interesting.  I recall now that have used
>  the double-battery once before and noticed no
>  problems (I can't remember if it was in the MX or
>  ME super).  In any case that's what I've purchased
>  this time.
>
>  It seems to me that a single battery possibly could
>  have an advantage in that there is no possibility
>  of corrosion or resistance between the two
>  individual cells.  Of course I am probably over
>  analyzing things with this statement.
>
>  Tom C.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bucky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Pentax Vancouver has informed me that these
> > "double size" batteries are not
> > recommended, at least for use in the LX.
> > I took mine in for CLA, and they specifically
> > suggested that I remove that battery and put
> > in two regular ones.  Don't ask me what the
> > problem would be; I had not had any trouble
> > with it at that point, but I took their word
> > for it. <<
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Re: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens

2001-04-19 Thread W Keith Mosier

Thanks, to everyone who responded about the Lenspen and the carbon black.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 "I was looking through "Requiem" last night and noticed that none of
 the pictures I saw of photographers with their cameras had filters on
 their lenses.  And this was in a war zone.  What was also interesting
 was how these unprotected lenses produced so many remarkable photos."

You're right.  Normally my group didn't use filters for lens protection.
But I had learned that if I was going to be susceptible to heavy salt spray
and wanted a clean lens later in the day to have some sort of filter on the
lens.

Another point, was that if the photog was having his/her picture taken,
they knew about it.  They knew to appear macho they had better take the
sissy filter off of the lens.   ; - )

K


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Re: Thoughts on the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 please?

2001-04-19 Thread Ryan K. Brooks

I bought this lens in lieu of the similiar pentax (cost concerns) and I
really like it.  The f/2.8 capability is really great for snapping your
subject out of the background, and the price was low enough that I could pick
up a Pentax 300mm f/4.5 ED IF lens in addition.   Seems sharp to me & AF
speed is reasonable.

I believe photodo.com did rate the pentax and the sigma the same.

Also, I've had no problems with lens<->camera communication, like some of the
earlier Sigmas.

-Ryan Brooks
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Cotty wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am considering replacing my Tokina 80-200 f2.8 manual focus lens with a
> later autofocus equivalent. There's a Tokina to be found now and then,
> but also I hear good things about the Sigma 70-200 2.8 lens.

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Re: Vivitar Flashes

2001-04-19 Thread Ray Reese

I remember reading something on the internet (maybe on this site) about the 
"discharge voltage" on the V283 flash units being too high for modern 
electronic cameras.  SOMETHING ABOUT FRYING THE CAMERA.  SOUNDED SERIOUS.

But, I also vaguely remember reading that it is only the oldest models of 
V283 (maybe 285 too).

Finally, I remember reading that Vivitar Tech Support can tell by serial 
number (and/or country of manufacture) whether the unit is to be 'feared' or 
not.

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Re: Brand wars [WAS: Re: MZ-S is really good ?]

2001-04-19 Thread Conrad Samuels

I use both Nikon and Pentax equipment (all old) having on the Nikon side the
Nikkormat FTn,  FE,  F3,  N2020 and on the Pentax side Spotmatic,  SP-F,
ES-II,  K1000,  MX  and program-A.  One great thing about them both is that
(as far as I can see anyhow-  maybe I'm missing something) both marques have
retained backward compatibility for decades which allows you to use your
existing old lenses even on new equipments and also (not as well known) that
the lenses work in the same way,  that is the focussing rings turn in the
same direction,  the f-stop rings ditto and so on.  But my own preference is
that the Pentax lenses have a certain luminosity which some of the Nikkors
lack.

Conrad F. Samuels
Kirstenhof SA
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Subject: Brand wars [WAS: Re: MZ-S is really good ?]


> As the lively chats between Doug Brewer and "Pentax Clover" continues, I'd
> like to say this:
>
> I began photography 21 years ago in 1980 with a Spotmatic II, then over
the
> years went through a K1000, Super Program, 2 MX's and finally an LX in
1996.
> But in 1998 I finally jumped into the AF foray, not with the Z-1p but a
> Nikon F90X. For my money the F90X was a much better buy than the Z-1p. I
> later added an FE2 as MF backup.
>
> As much as I enjoy my expanding Nikon system (no flames please), my pride
> and joy will *ALWAYS* be my LX with its FB1/FC1 finders, LX winder and
grips
> A and B. I now use my LX system with  SMCA 24/f2.8, 35-105/f3.5 and
50/f1.8
> and AF280T flash (after selling all my other Pentax gear). To lose my LX
is
> akin to losing a limb.
>
> Whenever anyone asks me what brand of camera equipment I use, I proudly
tell
> them I own and use both Pentax and Nikon, noting that it's not the
brand(s)
> that matters most, but rather the pursuit of the art of photography and
how
> you wish to capture images that reflect how you see the world.
>
> My $0.25.
>
> Kenneth Kuo
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Re: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt!

2001-04-19 Thread Conrad Samuels

Well,  the main reason I sold both my FM and FM2n and my first MX was the
diode readout.  I found that in bright daylight I simply could not see the
diodes.  (I wear spectacles).  On the other hand,  the meter needles in my
FTn and Spotmatics are just fine, excepting in the dark of course- when I
use the second MX or the F3   :-)


Conrad F. Samuels
Kirstenhof SA


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> For the very same reason as Alin, I moved from the Olympus OM-1 to Pentax
> MX.  Couldn't see the needle working with spotlights.  The LED's were a
> godsend.  I'm very happy I made the move to Pentax those many years ago.
I
> would never want to go back to a needle again.
>
> Bruce Dayton
> Sacramento, CA



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Re: Carbon Black (Was RE: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens)

2001-04-19 Thread Bob Blakely

Carbon black was and still is the best lens cleaning substance ever used. Carbon black
(ultra fine powder) acts like activated charcoal and a mild abrasive that is way too 
soft
to hurt the coatings but will loosen and absorb almost any gook. It will lift oils and
other stains that you can't get out with other cleaning methods. Often you may see a 
lens
with "cleaning scratches", and just as often these stubborn marks are not scratches at
all, but a hard, almost irremovable residue (hard water? dried spit?). Carbon black 
has no
binders or adhesives and is not itself sticky, so it can't really fill scratches except
very temporarily (the carbon will blow off). Any commercial compound that claims to 
fill
scratches must have a binder and is therefore not pure carbon black. Folks stopped 
using
carbon black not because it wasn't the best, but because of the consequences of the
smallest of accidents when using it - not to your lens, to you, your clothing and 
anything
surrounding you. Use this stuff outdoors, or be prepared to suffer the wrath of your 
wife
if you spill even the smallest bit of it.

The most reliable source of pure, useful carbon black is calligraphy shops where it is
sold (usually as lamp black or bone black) to folks who make their own inks. This is 
what
I use to clean my lenses.

The active ingredient in lens pens is carbon.

Regards,
Bob...
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They swore if we gave up our weapons
that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed they sold us,
and delivered us, bound, to our foe.
And the gods of the copybook headings said,
'Stick to the devil you know.' "
--Rudyard Kipling

From: "Provencher, Paul M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> It is carbon black, used to fill scratches and thereby eliminate unwanted
> refraction from them, improving results with a scratched lens - a very old
> trick, apparently resurrected in new form ("Productized")
>
> I have seen the advertisement - it makes claims way beyond what filling
> scratches with carbon black will accomplish, but in the case of a stray nick
> or scratch, like the one on the lens here:
> http://whitemetal.com/pentax/st_135_25/st_135_25_13.htm
> it can work very well.
>
> From: Lewis, Gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> Recently on the tele there has been an advert about a penlike device for
> repairing scratched spectacle lenses.  During the demo it shows rubbing on a
> blackish grey substance and then polishing it away to hide the scratches.  I
> have no idea if this really works, but might it be the same substance as the
> LENSPEN?
>
> From: Jan van Wijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:39:40 -0400, W Keith Mosier wrote:
>
> >Also, about the lens pen that Tom and many others have mentioned.  I've yet
> >to find one in the local stores.  What exactly is it?  What manufacturer?
>
> Make or manufacturer is "CARSON", name is simply "LENSPEN"
>
> It is shaped like a thick balpoint, with a retractable soft brush on one
> end,
> and under a protective hood on the other end a special shaped foam
> brush,  with wat seems to be some very fine black powder ...
>
> >What's it contain?
> >
>
> Maybe something based on carbon-black ???
>
> >I think on the old list several people talked about using carbon black (?)
> >to clean lenses.  Is that right?
>
> I think it is, maybe it's in the pen as well :-)


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Re: ME Super/MX Batteries

2001-04-19 Thread Rfsindg

Tom & Bucky,

Interesting.  I have never had problems with the double battery in the Super Program 
or the ME.  On the other hand, I noticed the LX display seemed to pulse when I let go 
of the shutter release today.  I opened the battery compartment and found a double in 
it.  I put in 2 unused MS76's from '95 and the pulsing went away.  This has happened 
before.

Regards,  Bob S.


Tom C. wrote:

>>That's interesting.  I recall now that have used
 the double-battery once before and noticed no
 problems (I can't remember if it was in the MX or
 ME super).  In any case that's what I've purchased
 this time.

 It seems to me that a single battery possibly could
 have an advantage in that there is no possibility
 of corrosion or resistance between the two
 individual cells.  Of course I am probably over
 analyzing things with this statement.

 Tom C.

- Original Message -
From: "Bucky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Pentax Vancouver has informed me that these
> "double size" batteries are not
> recommended, at least for use in the LX. 
> I took mine in for CLA, and they specifically
> suggested that I remove that battery and put
> in two regular ones.  Don't ask me what the
> problem would be; I had not had any trouble
> with it at that point, but I took their word
> for it. <<

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RE: Re[2]: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens

2001-04-19 Thread Provencher, Paul M.

I guess I am just the most fortunate person because in 30 years of shooting,
often in hostile environments, and under adverse conditions, I have yet to
damage a front lens element, and I don't use filters of the UV or Skylight
variety for lens protectors.  I am partial to opaque, metal lens caps for
that purpose.  

Now I will probably get run over crossing the parking lot to get to my car
this evening but...

:-)
Paul M. Provencher
(ppro)
Bought all his own equipment

-Original Message-
From: Bob Walkden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:58 PM
To: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re[2]: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens


Hi,

ah yes, but how many of them had to pay for their own equipment?

:o)

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thursday, April 19, 2001, 3:04:15 PM, you wrote:

> I was looking through "Requiem" last night and noticed that none of
> the pictures I saw of photographers with their cameras had filters
> on their lenses.  And this was in a war zone.  What was also
> interesting was how these unprotected lenses produced so many
> remarkable photos.


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KX Aperture window

2001-04-19 Thread Todd Stanley


Just wondering, what's with the little aperture readout window on the KX,
that displays the selected aperture in the viewfinder?  Is it prone to
breaking or something, as I have handled 2 KX's so far (including one that
was claimed to be completely overhauled), and on both it wasn't working -
the window is completely black.

TIA!
Todd
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Thoughts on the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 please?

2001-04-19 Thread Cotty

Hello,

I am considering replacing my Tokina 80-200 f2.8 manual focus lens with a 
later autofocus equivalent. There's a Tokina to be found now and then, 
but also I hear good things about the Sigma 70-200 2.8 lens. Not having 
had any Sigma gear before, I wonder if anyone would like to comment 
generally on their performance, or maybe on the lens in question if 
possible.

It would be used for a while on MXs, but (hopefully) within a year or so, 
on a new Pentax digital camera. I use manual focus rather a lot (!), and 
will most likely continue to do so as old habits die hard (although I'm 
certainly not averse to newfangled methods). Accordingly, what can you 
tell me about the manual focus facility, if anything?

Finally, I have searched for lens reviews for the Sigma, but haven't been 
very successful - if anyone can suggest a website with a review of this 
lens I'd be grateful.

Many thanks,

Cotty

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Re: In Praise of my amazing new Pentax: The ME super!!!

2001-04-19 Thread Tonghang Zhou


I once had 2 ME-supers and observed a big difference between them
in terms of vibration, although both were in great condition.

Regards,
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Much as I like my Super Program, the ME Supers that I've tried in camera
> stores were quieter, with discernibly less vibration. And seeing the lit

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Re[2]: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens

2001-04-19 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

ah yes, but how many of them had to pay for their own equipment?

:o)

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thursday, April 19, 2001, 3:04:15 PM, you wrote:

> I was looking through "Requiem" last night and noticed that none of
> the pictures I saw of photographers with their cameras had filters
> on their lenses.  And this was in a war zone.  What was also
> interesting was how these unprotected lenses produced so many
> remarkable photos.


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Re: ME Super/MX Batteries

2001-04-19 Thread aimcompute

That's interesting.  I recall now that have used the double-battery once
before and noticed no problems (I can't remember if it was in the MX or ME
super).  In any case that's what I've purchased this time.

It seems to me that a single battery possibly could have an advantage in
that there is no possibility of corrosion or resistance between the two
individual cells.  Of course I am probably over analyzing things with this
statement.

Tom C.

- Original Message -
From: "Bucky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 5:43 PM
Subject: RE: ME Super/MX Batteries


> Pentax Vancouver has informed me that these "double size" batteries are
not
> recommended, at least for use in the LX.  I took mine in for CLA, and they
> specifically suggested that I remove that battery and put in two regular
> ones.  Don't ask e what the problem would be; I had not had any trouble
with
> it at that point, but I took their word for it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Stanley
> Sent: April 18, 2001 3:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ME Super/MX Batteries
>
>
>
> Kodak has a K58L that works too.  It's the size of 2 SR44's, and is 3V.
> It's a bit easier to get into the camera than 2 of those button batteries.
>
> Todd
>
> At 05:35 PM 4/18/01 -0300, you wrote:
> >
> >A76 or 76A, LR44, etc.
> >Regards
> >
> >Albano


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RE: Vivitar Flashes

2001-04-19 Thread Paris, Leonard

The Vivitar 285HV is a workhorse of a flash.  The 283, if one of the older
models, could fry some modern cameras.  I'd pass on the 283 and if the 285HV
is in good condition, with a decent price, it will serve you well.  Just go
to KEH and some other used equipment sites (Cameta Camera comes to mind) to
get a good feel for the retail selling price so you don't end up paying more
than you should.

Len
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> From: B. K. Lane Sr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:36 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Vivitar Flashes
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have been looking at flashes on ebay for a couple
> of days now. There seems to be alot of VIVITAR 285HV 
> and the VIVITAR 283 model.
> 
> Are these models pretty good? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Rebecca
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Re: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt!

2001-04-19 Thread Bruce Dayton

For the very same reason as Alin, I moved from the Olympus OM-1 to Pentax
MX.  Couldn't see the needle working with spotlights.  The LED's were a
godsend.  I'm very happy I made the move to Pentax those many years ago.  I
would never want to go back to a needle again.

Bruce Dayton
Sacramento, CA


- Original Message -
From: "Alin Flaider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt!


>
>Let me know about it next time when you try the needle trick in a
> dim theatre.
>...
>I'm pleased I got rid of it and find the bargraph the most
> intuitive representation of under/over-exposure. Only wished Pentax
> viewfinders showed a full 6 EVs scale instead of the current 4.
>I posted this just to avoid the impression we're a pack of ruthless
> retro wolves. ;o)
>
>Servus, Alin
>
> Lon wrote:
>
> LW> I'm pleased to see Nikon do this.
> LW> Jeeze, a NEEDLE in the viewfinder.
> LW> So much better than those darned digital
> LW> displays.
>
>
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Vs: MZ-S is really good ?

2001-04-19 Thread Raimo Korhonen

According to the correction printed in PopPhoto/May 2001 the RTF can sync up to 1/8000 
s - but if the shutter goes only to 1/6000 this feature is not very useful ;-) - but 
the flash covers the field of view of 24 mm lens, not bad.
And I have never said that the MZ-S is a bad camera - just that the MZ-5N is so good 
that I see no reason so upgrade (at least that´s what I keep telling myself).
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Päivä: 19. huhtikuuta 2001 14:16
Aihe: Re: MZ-S is really good ?


>
What camera is this? The MZ-S don't lack features. It has among the most 
sophisticated flash system on the planet with RTF flash synch up to 1/6000s something 
no other camera do. It also has a unique dataimpriniting feature far better than 
anything else since the data follow the picture. 

>
>Pål
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Brand wars [WAS: Re: MZ-S is really good ?]

2001-04-19 Thread Paradiso

As the lively chats between Doug Brewer and "Pentax Clover" continues, I'd
like to say this:

I began photography 21 years ago in 1980 with a Spotmatic II, then over the
years went through a K1000, Super Program, 2 MX's and finally an LX in 1996.
But in 1998 I finally jumped into the AF foray, not with the Z-1p but a
Nikon F90X. For my money the F90X was a much better buy than the Z-1p. I
later added an FE2 as MF backup.

As much as I enjoy my expanding Nikon system (no flames please), my pride
and joy will *ALWAYS* be my LX with its FB1/FC1 finders, LX winder and grips
A and B. I now use my LX system with  SMCA 24/f2.8, 35-105/f3.5 and 50/f1.8
and AF280T flash (after selling all my other Pentax gear). To lose my LX is
akin to losing a limb.

Whenever anyone asks me what brand of camera equipment I use, I proudly tell
them I own and use both Pentax and Nikon, noting that it's not the brand(s)
that matters most, but rather the pursuit of the art of photography and how
you wish to capture images that reflect how you see the world.

My $0.25.

Kenneth Kuo

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Re: ME Super/MX Batteries

2001-04-19 Thread aimcompute

That's interesting.  I recall now that have used the double-battery once
before and noticed no problems (I can't remember if it was in the MX or ME
super).  In any case that's what I've purchased this time.

It seems to me that a single battery possibly could have an advantage in
that there is no possibility of corrosion or resistance between the two
individual cells.  Of course I am probably over analyzing things with this
statement.

Tom C.

- Original Message -
From: "Bucky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 5:43 PM
Subject: RE: ME Super/MX Batteries


> Pentax Vancouver has informed me that these "double size" batteries are
not
> recommended, at least for use in the LX.  I took mine in for CLA, and they
> specifically suggested that I remove that battery and put in two regular
> ones.  Don't ask e what the problem would be; I had not had any trouble
with
> it at that point, but I took their word for it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Stanley
> Sent: April 18, 2001 3:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ME Super/MX Batteries
>
>
>
> Kodak has a K58L that works too.  It's the size of 2 SR44's, and is 3V.
> It's a bit easier to get into the camera than 2 of those button batteries.
>
> Todd
>
> At 05:35 PM 4/18/01 -0300, you wrote:
> >
> >A76 or 76A, LR44, etc.
> >Regards
> >
> >Albano
> >
> >
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Re: lens of the week: 2000/13.5 and M 2000/13.5

2001-04-19 Thread K.Takeshita

on 4/19/01 11:16 AM, O'Neill, William at William.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is there anybody that actually owns one of these?  I often though of getting
> one and starting up my on little domestic spy business.  You could do some
> neat things with it and some 3200 ASA B&W film!
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Re: lens of the week: 2000/13.5 and M 2000/13.5

2001-04-19 Thread Pål Jensen

William wrote:

> Is there anybody that actually owns one of these?  I often though of getting one and 
>starting up my on little domestic spy >business.  You could do some neat things with 
>it and some 3200 ASA B&W film!


If you can focus it! I had troubles with the 1000/11. Try to stop down any lens to 
F:11 and try focusing it. A 2000mm will be 10 times worse; remeber the focusing 
accuracy involved. Its pretty much hopeless in my experience. Focusing bracketing is 
mandatory.

Pål

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Re: In Praise of my amazing new Pentax: The ME super!!!

2001-04-19 Thread Paul . Stregevsky

Much as I like my Super Program, the ME Supers that I've tried in camera
stores were quieter, with discernibly less vibration. And seeing the lit
LED move up and down as you change aperture makes for very intuitive
readings; you can "know" your shutter speed while keeping your eye off your
subject.

I'll always own one Super Program, for its TTL flash and ability to get the
most from PKA lenses. And it's SO nice to see the shutter speed on the top
plate. But if you're not using flash or a PKA lens, the ME Super seems just
super.There's a reason it's so pupular among list members.

Chris Brogden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ha, wait until you've tried the Super Program.  Think of an ME Super with
shutter-priority and full program, DOF preview, TTL flash, etc. etc.

Paul Franklin Stregevsky

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Re: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt!

2001-04-19 Thread Lon Williamson

I'm pleased to see Nikon do this.
Jeeze, a NEEDLE in the viewfinder.

So much better than those darned digital
displays.

Now if we can just get Pentax to re-release
the KX.

-Lon
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Re: KMP lens of the week [2]

2001-04-19 Thread Steve Larson


Boz wrote:

My intention is to gather comments by single people


Can married people respond also? 
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California

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Re: Re[2]: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt!

2001-04-19 Thread Albano_Garcia


Another factor is the price.
FM3A seems excellent, but it will cost A LOT. Just look the price of a FM2n, add
all the features the new body has, and the price will be close to the F3.
The five letters in front of pentaprism housing adds another 100 or 200 bucks :
- ).
Just my two cents.

And the new Nikon pancake is obviously "inspired" in the Pentax limited lenses
(I know the nikon's is manual focus, but the concept is too similar)

Albano


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Re: EV

2001-04-19 Thread Stephen Moore

Chris Brogden wrote:
 
> As a rule, if the camera sees a lot of bright things, it will try to make
> them darker (to roughly 18% reflectance), so a bright background can
> darken a foreground subject, and you might want to overexpose a
> bit.  Conversely, a dark background can cause your camera to
> overexpose.  This is a function of meters that measure reflected
> light.  If you measure incident / ambient light, your exposure will be the
> same regardless of what your subject is.

EV is a feature on my LX I haven't used yet because I'm not sure I fully
understand it. Am I correct in conceptualizing it thus?

  In terms of the match needle in my K1000, a bright scene (snow, sand, etc.)
  makes the needle ride high, which is the camera's way of telling you
  to stop down. You're free to ignore that advice, and in this case you
  should. With autoexposure the camera makes the choice, so you dial in 
  a positive EV as a way of "forcing the needle back up," as it were.
  The opposite is true for under-lit scenes, so you use negative EV.

Is that close to the mark, or am I full of it?

Regards,  
Stephen Moore
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Re: MZ-S is really good ?

2001-04-19 Thread Norman Baugher

I don't think he expects it to be reduced 50%, he was only wishing it was cheaper. 
Interpretation again.
Norm

Pål Jensen wrote:

> Pentax clover wrote:
>
> > I hope I keep my MZ-3, and of course I hope I could buy a MZ-S for half of
> > his price !
>
> Why do you expect Pentax to give away the MZ-S? Do you expect Nikon to reduce the 
>F100 by 50%?
> What other camera offer the MZ-S features and a fully heavy duty metal body for less 
>cash?
>

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Vivitar Flashes

2001-04-19 Thread B. K. Lane Sr.

Hi,

I have been looking at flashes on ebay for a couple
of days now. There seems to be alot of VIVITAR 285HV 
and the VIVITAR 283 model.

Are these models pretty good? 

Thanks,
Rebecca

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Re: My shopping list...

2001-04-19 Thread Treena Harp

Ditto -- did that a couple of months ago. When it showed up, it didn't look
like bargain condition (which is a standard I've come to expect from KEH).
What a gem of a lens. Recently it disappeared into my husband's cavernous
camera bag, and I haven't seen it since. Maybe I should acquire another 


According to Kevin

> If you can wait on this one watch KEH.
>
> I have a list of lenses I check KEH at least once a day for.  I recently
picked up a Macro 100/2.8 this way for $189 US in bargain condition.  I
works great and I'm loving it.
>

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RE: MZ-S is really good ?

2001-04-19 Thread Paris, Leonard

I was under the impression that you can use as many, or as few, of the
features as you need.  When you need to just point and shoot, because the
image is fleeting, it's nice to have as much automation as possible.  It's
also nice to turn off lots of it when you have the time to do your own
thinking and you can afford to be very deliberate and painstaking.

I still want to get my hands on an MZ-S and use it a bit before I make a
final decision on purchase but that's mostly because I'm pretty happy with
my PZ-1p.

The name on camera has only been a consideration, because I have a fair
amount of money invested in Pentax lenses.  I also have a fair amount
invested in Nikkor MF lenses.  I use both systems to good advantage. I find
the Pentax to be a more consistent performer for my needs, and easier to use
when I need to work very fast.

Len
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> -Original Message-
> From: petit miam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:24 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: MZ-S is really good ?
> 
> 
> I am a dedicated Pentax fan, but don't think I would
> buy an MZ-S either. I think if you start getting too
> many features, you start forgetting about photography.
> 
> 
> Also I don't want a fully automated camera. I love the
> feel of my manual wind-on, and rewind. And I love
> setting my shutter-speed and aperture to get the photo
> I want, not the photo the camera thinks I should have.
> Having bought my first auto-focus camera 6 months ago,
> I have also decided that I think I prefer manual
> focus. My eyes are more reliable.
> 
> Having said that, I definitely don't want my camera to
> say Nikon or Canon. I would be ashamed. Only Pentax
> for me. They are great cameras. I think maybe an LX
> next, only I am struggling to get one in this remote
> part of NZ.
> 
> Jody. 
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Re: MZ-S is really good ?

2001-04-19 Thread David A. Mann

petit miam writes:

> I am a dedicated Pentax fan, but don't think I would
> buy an MZ-S either. I think if you start getting too
> many features, you start forgetting about photography.

 That can certainly happen but it really becomes a matter of thinking of 
"features" as "tools".  Most people seem to buy a camera based on feature 
count, then never use any of the features!

 I bought my Z-1p so I could do portraits and wildlife shooting without having 
to manually focus at wide apertures on moving objects, all while trying to 
figure out fill-flash.  It's a great body but I do believe that the feel of a K2 with 
a SMCP 50mm f/1.2 can hardly be matched.

> Also I don't want a fully automated camera. I love the
> feel of my manual wind-on, and rewind.

 I like the lack of noise my manual wind makes.  I would love a new camera 
that has a removable winder (just think how compact the MZ-S would be 
without a winder or RTF).  The Z-1p winder is just about indispensable when I 
don't want to take my eye off the viewfinder but any other time it's just a 
battery-draining noisemaker.

> And I love
> setting my shutter-speed and aperture to get the photo
> I want, not the photo the camera thinks I should have.

 I still get that with my Z-1p.  Hyper-program mode rocks.  This is also part of 
the reason I switched to slide film: I want to see what I took, not what the 
lab's machine considers an "18% average".  I just wish it had an electronic 
DOF preview :(

> Having bought my first auto-focus camera 6 months ago,
> I have also decided that I think I prefer manual
> focus. My eyes are more reliable.

 I find manual focus quite difficult in darker conditions, but I think a split-
image screen would be better for that.  My K2 bodies both have microprism 
screens but I can accurately focus my RB67 in any amount of dark.  I 
generally prefer the microprism screen because the split-image requires a 
vertical line to focus on.

> Having said that, I definitely don't want my camera to
> say Nikon or Canon. I would be ashamed. Only Pentax
> for me. They are great cameras. I think maybe an LX
> next, only I am struggling to get one in this remote
> part of NZ.

 How remote is remote? :)  I know a guy who inherited two LXes and I've 
seen one other for sale in a pawn shop.  I've yet to actually touch one though.

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: MZ-S is really good ?

2001-04-19 Thread Pentax Clover

Hello
Dear Doug,
If you can read easily french, come on www.photim.com, and ask about clover
(myself) and if he is ashame about having a Pentax.I sold my Canon (Elan II)
is it not a clue to guess how important the famous of the brand is for my
opinion ?
I hope I keep my MZ-3, and of course I hope I could buy a MZ-S for half of
his price !
I am just disappointed about its price, because for the same price, you can
find a SLR which is much more better and  still believe that the MZ-S only
needs a feww change to be perfect for me.(few and not expensive)
Even, if I change, I might buy a Minolta Maxxum/Dynax 7, because it has all
the things I find missing in the MZ-S. It is not reallly much bigger
neither!
You know, I put Gaffer on my MZ-3 such as you cannot guess even it is a
Pentax nor a new SLR. So even I own a Nikon, I will not be proud to show it
because I will make it up as well
Please , do not to so vexed that you cannot see what I really ask, the few
change I ask can be release on a MZ-Sn. Then I will agree to pay this price.
I just did not express why I stay in Pentax, so that is why some of you
think I could switch for Nikon. But regard to my needs, this is easier to
buy a MZ-S (much more cheaper)

I understand, you just encourage me to self my MZ-3, my 35mm FA f/:2, my
43mm f/:1.9 and my 85mm FA IF f/:1.4 for others pdml members ???
8-)

See you

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> Clover,
>
> Let me give you some advice, my little friend. Get rid of your MZ-3 and
buy an F100. If you don't, you'll never be able to look your little Nikon
buddies in the eye, because you're more worried about what they think about
your camera than you are about your photographs.
>
> The F100 is perfect for you. It's heavy, has a lot of cool features, says
Nikon on it,  all the things that are important when a camera is a fashion
statement. Plus, it also works pretty well as a camera, should you ever
decide to take some pictures.
>
> I am a firm believer in comfort. That's one of the reasons I use Pentax,
because the bodies I use are comfortable. It's plain you are uncomfortable
using Pentax when your friends have switched to Nikon. I say, as I've said
before, if the Pentax is causing you grief and shame, then trade it for
something you can wear with pride.
>
> Let us know if you're going to sell or trade. Some folks on the list might
be interested in a barely used MZ-3 and some lenses.
>
> Doug
>
>
> At 1:46 AM +02004/19/01, Pentax Clover caused thus to appear:
> >Hello
> >I was thinking about the MZ-S and I realize something :
> >The MZ-S is perfectly good for the user who knows what he is going to
get...
> >>From my experience, we usually do not use all function of a SLR.
> >I know that I feel needed sometimes with my MZ-3., so the MZ-S is a good
SLR
> >if I wish to replace my MZ-3.
> >As often, there is much asked things which are not very usefull. The MZ-S
is
> >a Pentax version of a SLR which you can easily use. (as easy as a MZ-3)
> >Of course, I am still wishing a better SLR, but I forget to mention that
it
> >is a good SLR if we know all our needs so we cannot buy it wrongly.
> >Hoping for a new body for myself, but hoping a MZ-S for Pentax users who
> >need it !
> >See you
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
> Douglas Forrest Brewer
> Ashwood Lake Photography
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.alphoto.com
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RE: My shopping list...

2001-04-19 Thread Kevin Thornsberry

If you can wait on this one watch KEH.

I have a list of lenses I check KEH at least once a day for.  I recently picked up a 
Macro 100/2.8 this way for $189 US in bargain condition.  I works great and I'm loving 
it.

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I believe it's not so much the focal length she's after, but the macro
capability. The A100/2.8 macro (1:1) goes for about $450 to $550 U.S. when
you can find one.


Collin Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Also, how about the manual focus A100/2.8 for 1/2 the price!


Paul Franklin Stregevsky

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RE: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt!

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Smith

Herbet Brasileiro wrote:

> Yeah, right. What's the difference from an LX with
> limited lens on?

You can buy it NEW.

Peter


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KMP lens of the week [2]

2001-04-19 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov

Hi,

Just a few additions.  My intention is to gather comments by single people
and write a summary, something similar to the pages that Arnold Stark and I
have done for the M40/2.8 and the FA 43/1.9 Limited.

I am aware that Stan Halpin has already collected and made available most
of the past PDML lens discussions.  I am also aware that Alex Nemerovsky
(BOA) has done work similar to what I propose.  The difference with the KMP
will be that all the info will be all together (lens description, specs,
image, optical evaluation, discussion of accessories, etc.) and that I will
be the "editor" (for good or for bad).

Cheers,
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lens of the week: FA 50/2.8 Macro

2001-04-19 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov

Hi,

SMC-FA 50/2.8 Macro

What is your opinion of this lens?  Is it any good?  What do you use it
for?  What do you like about it?  How well built is it?  How is the lens
handling (weight, size, etc.)?

How about optical qualities: resolution, contrast, color, distortion,
bokeh, light fall-off, etc.?

Can you make a better picture of it than the one that I already have on
the KMP?  Is there any piece of information about the lens that I am
missing that you can provide?

Please post your answers to the PDML.  TIA,
Boz

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lens of the week: 2000/13.5 and M 2000/13.5

2001-04-19 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov

Hi,

SMC 2000/13.5
SMC-M 2000/13.5

What is your opinion of these lenses?  Are they any good?  What do you
use them for?  What do you like about them?  How well built are they?
How is the handling (weight, size, etc.)?

How about optical qualities: resolution, contrast, color, distortion,
bokeh, light fall-off, etc.?

Can you make a better picture of it than the ones that I already have on
the KMP?  Is there any piece of information about these lenses that I am
missing that you can provide?

Please post your answers to the PDML.  TIA,
Boz

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Re: Grip A vs Grip B (LX)

2001-04-19 Thread Jan van Wijk

On 18 Apr 2001 10:28:08 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>   Here's what I see as an intersting question:  What's with the price difference 
>between the Grip A and the Grip B for the LX?
>
>   I constantly see the B go for $40 or more on eBay, while the grip A is only $20 
>NEW at B&H . . .
>
>   Anyone have any ideas on the price of a new grip B or a more reasonable price for 
>it?

Camera-direct in the UK has both for the same price: 20 pounds, this would be over US$ 
25 I guess.

http://www.camera-direct.com/other.asp

Regards, JvW (who ordered a Grip-B a few weeks ago :-)


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RE: MZ-S is really good ?

2001-04-19 Thread Bucky


Unnecessarily vitriolic and deliberately hurtful.


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Re: KMP lens of the week

2001-04-19 Thread Jan van Wijk

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 03:05:35 -0500 (EST), Bojidar Dimitrov wrote:

>
>How do you all like the idea?

Sounds good Boz, I don't think we could do more than 2 or 3 a week anyway ...

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Re: MZ-S is really good ?

2001-04-19 Thread petit miam

I am a dedicated Pentax fan, but don't think I would
buy an MZ-S either. I think if you start getting too
many features, you start forgetting about photography.


Also I don't want a fully automated camera. I love the
feel of my manual wind-on, and rewind. And I love
setting my shutter-speed and aperture to get the photo
I want, not the photo the camera thinks I should have.
Having bought my first auto-focus camera 6 months ago,
I have also decided that I think I prefer manual
focus. My eyes are more reliable.

Having said that, I definitely don't want my camera to
say Nikon or Canon. I would be ashamed. Only Pentax
for me. They are great cameras. I think maybe an LX
next, only I am struggling to get one in this remote
part of NZ.

Jody. 


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lens of the week: 15/3.5 and A 15/3.5

2001-04-19 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov

Hi,

This is the first attempt to start a lens of the week discussion.  Let's
see how well it goes.

SMC 15/3.5
SMC-A 15/3.5

What is your opinion of this lens?  Is it any good?  What do you use it
for?  What do you like about it?  How well built is it?  How is the lens
handling (weight, size, etc.)?

How about optical qualities: resolution, contrast, color, distortion,
bokeh, light fall-off, etc.?

Can you make a better picture of it than I already have on the KMP?  Is
there any piece of information about the lens that I am missing that you
can provide?

Please post your answers to the PDML.  TIA,
Boz

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KMP lens of the week

2001-04-19 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov

Hi all,

"The time has come for all good men..."  Ooops, sorry.  The time has come
to start filling up the lens descriptions and optical properties for the
lenses listed in the KMP (www.phred.org/pentax/k/lenses/primes/).  For now
only the primes, but also coming up are the zooms.

So, the idea is like this.  I've prepared a page dedicated to each lens,
with space left for a short description and for optical performance
evaluation.  I call upon your knowledge and experience in helping me write
these descriptions and evaluations.

I propose that each week I/we feature 2-3 "lenses of the week."  During
that week we will discuss the lenses proposed (by me probably) from the
previous Friday.  At the end of that week I will sum up the opinions and
will write up the lens description and optical evaluation.  I will also
clean up the lens image and optical diagram as much as I can, and we will
have 2-3 additional "complete" lens pages per week.  Of course, at that
tempo it will take us 2 years to do all lenses, but that's the best that I
can do.

How do you all like the idea?

Cheers,
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Re: ZX-7 autofocus probs.

2001-04-19 Thread petit miam

Or, if you have enough time, auto-focus, then quickly
flick the switch to manual focus and press the
shutter. It should still be in focus.

I use this sometimes with my MZ-30 to lock the focus.
This camera also seems to be a bugger for moving
subjects, and I keep forgetting that I can hold my
finger on the shutter.

Jody.

> This is one of those situations where true Servo
> focusing is the ticket.
   
> Bruce Dayton

> > Monday I went to watch the Boston Marathon and
> took my ZX-7. I wanted to
> > take action shots of the runners as they went by,
> but I actually ended up
> > missing several great shots. Here's what happened:
> >
> > As the runners approached, I was zoomed out to
> 200mm on the F 80-200mm
> zoom.
> > The camera focused and I fired off a shot. As the
> runners neared me
> though,
> > the camera was unable to focus on them, and the
> shutter simply wouldn't
> fire.
> >
> > Sometimes I would release the shutter button
> completely, then press it
> down
> > again to try to get the camera to focus and fire.
> Again, the camera failed
> > to get a focus lock and the shutter would not
> fire.
> >
> > As the runners passed by, eventually they would
> get far enough away that
> the
> > camera could get a focus lock and then it would
> fire the shutter. Lots of
> > shots of the backs of people's heads.
> >
> > Other times, I would pull the zoom back out to the
> 80mm end, as the
> runners
> > got closest to me, and the camera did manage to
> get a new focus lock, but
> as
> > soon as I zoomed back out to 200 for the next
> runner, it would again fail
> to
> > focus and I could not fire the shutter.
 
> > Mike Nosal
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens

2001-04-19 Thread petit miam

Just watch the seven years bad luck :)

> When the adrenaline stopped cursing through my veins
> and I stopped cursing,
> I went back to see which pieces of glass belonged to
> which item.  Lots of
> mirror glass.  But lo and behold, the lens was
> intact, the barrel not even
> dented, the camera likewise, unscathed.  And the
> lens coating?  Remember
> this is a protruding front element.  Nothing.  Just
> a little mirror dust
> where the two collided.  A quick shot with a can of
> Dust-Off and it was as
> good as new.  I was stunned.
> 
> I have never been as paranoid of my lenses since.
> 
> Paul M. Provencher
> (ppro)


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RE: outrageous

2001-04-19 Thread petit miam

You know I don't like all black cameras ;)

> Hey, it's an "all black, professional grade camera".
>  Who could
> resist buying it?  Especially with that dedicated
> Vivitar flash.
> :-)
> 
> Len


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Re: EV

2001-04-19 Thread petit miam

I think of it this way. With a black subject, it is
going to be clear in the negative, so that lots of
light can get through and hit the photographic paper
and turn it black. The more light getting to the paper
through the negative, the blacker the paper will go.
You may have to have done darkroom processing to
understand this concept. Not trying to insult your
intelligence, but it may make it a little harder.

Now if you look at a negative film (or part of one)
which hasn't been exposed, but has been developed, it
will be black. The more light that hits it through the
camera lens, the clearer it will become.

Black absorbs light, so not much light is reflected
back into your camera from a dark subject. Hence the
subject will have little detail. So, to increase the
light getting onto the film, and hence the detail, you
need to overexpose it a little, allowing more time for
light to enter the camera.

Then read what Chris said (below) about meters
compensating for light or dark backgrounds.

Hope this helps. It seemed to make more sense in my
head than typed out :)

Jody.


> > One problem i have when photograph horse jumping,
> is on a bright
> > day-dark horse-and a darkish background like trees
> with lots of
> > greenery,if i expose normaly the horse will be
> dark,harder to see,and
> > the trees nicely exposed.I usually overexpose a
> small amount but in
> > the manual for the sf-1 for ev examples it says to
> minus (-) the ev
> > for subjects infront of dark background and plus
> (+) if subjext is
> > infront of blue sky or snow. I'm sure the book is
> correct but my brain
> > seems to say this is back wards.
> 
> As a rule, if the camera sees a lot of bright
> things, it will try to make
> them darker (to roughly 18% reflectance), so a
> bright background can
> darken a foreground subject, and you might want to
> overexpose a
> bit.  Conversely, a dark background can cause your
> camera to
> overexpose.  This is a function of meters that
> measure reflected
> light.  If you measure incident / ambient light,
> your exposure will be the
> same regardless of what your subject is.
> 
> chris


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