Re: (Please help me understand)
- Original Message - From: "Jeff Tokayer" Subject: Re: (Please help me understand) > Did you act like one too? Like one what?? William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Another ME Super, more weirdness
- Original Message - From: "Dan Scott" Subject: Another ME Super, more weirdness > Hi all, > > The seller of my first ME Super offered me a refund or a replacement. I > opted for the replacement. This one is exhibiting more baffling behavior. > Any help diagnosing the cause is appreciated. Scans of the test roll are > here: Well shucks Dan, that looks like just what would happen when I was closing the aperture in stop increments without changing the shutter speed to compensate. William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. Submission deadline is June 30, 2001 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: (Please help me understand)
Did you act like one too? > > Back when I had hair, I was a blonde. > L8R > Bill > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S (Please help me understand)
That works well for me...especially there is no way I can afford the product now. :) As I read more, it sounds as if the additional focusing areas would be cool if the autofocus mechanism was faster/more accurate. I would spring for the $$$ eventually for that. Thanks for the info - J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Brewer Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 7:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S (Please help me understand) Which would cause the price of the MZ-S to drop as well... Good point At 10:04 PM -04006/16/01, Mark D. , under cross examination, admitted: >Jeff, > >One more thing to keep in mind is that Pentax has, at times, replaced a body >fairly soon after its release. The PZ-1 turned PZ-1p and ZX-5 turned ZX-5n. >(Putting on flame-retardent suit) If you're hesistant at all about the MZ-S, >it might well be worthwhile to see if a MZ-Sn comes out in a couple of >years. > >Mark -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Late PUG comments
Gianfranco wrote; >Hi everybody, >I know I'm a bit late but unfortunately I've been >sick, after being too busy, >so... Sound like me! Busy month, I had my wisdom teeth out.. >I'd like to mention the images that caught my eye >this month, in no particular >order: >" Evening Stroll " >by William Johnson, USA >My choice for this month. It's almost perfect. The >light is magical and the >couple acts as the perfect complement to the mystery >emanating from the >building. I'd only have tried to have the couple more >visible in the print, >masking that part a little. Thanks for you kind comments. I was a little disappointed with this scan, for the same reason. I need to get up to speed with my scanning/software skills. I appreciate your observations. Thanks, William in Utah. __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG comments: Peifer, Wuthrich... Also Waters, Theriault, Johnson
Sid wrote; >And I give silver stars to: Cory Waters, Frank >Theriault, and William Johnson. Thanks Sid! Best of luck on your new endeavor. Keep us updated. Regards, William in Utah. __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
(Please help me understand)
- Original Message - (Please help me understand) > When I have hair, it's wavy. > > Doug Back when I had hair, I was a blonde. L8R Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: June Gallery Comments
Collin Brendemuehl, taking on the mammoth task of commenting on every PUG submission this month wrote; > >" Evening Stroll " by William Johnson, USA > Nice sense of perspective. > Makes me think of David & Goliath just a bit. Thanks Collin, for your comments. William in Utah. __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
June Commentary for Moses, White, Gordon.
Hi all, It's been a hectic month, culminated (so far) by having my wisdom teeth removed, so I'm checking in a little late. " First Church of the Americas " by Tiger Moses, USA: I've looked at this on both my work and home monitors, and it seems lacking in shadow detail. I would guess that it was exposed to leave detail in the sky, at the expense of the foreground. I like being able to see the shrubbery and pathway coming up to the church. In my opinion, the shrub on the left is a little too dominant, I think that I would have moved the camera a little forward and to the right to show a little less of this shrub and more of the church. This looks like a neat structure and seems it would be fantastic place to explore photographically. " Christmas in the City " by Patrick White, USA: Nice nighttime shot. The oval makes a nice "frame" for the image. Good job on the exposure too. It is hard to tell, but it seems that the lights on the tree are a little out of depth of field, perhaps stopping down to around f/8 and letting the shutter go about 1-2 seconds would have sharpened it up. Quite ingenious going without a tripod and cable release. " City Bird " by Andras Gordon, USA: I like the strong diagonal placement of the "bird", this really makes for a dynamic composition. It almost seems as if the goal was to create an "abstract" look, in which case I would suggest cropping out the blue sky. Exposure is good for a graphic impact, and the inclusion of the tree and tree shadow provide a nice counterpoint to the rest of the image. Good job guys, and also to everyone who submitted, and the PUG team that makes it all happen each month. Regards, William in Utah. __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Another ME Super, more weirdness
Hi all, The seller of my first ME Super offered me a refund or a replacement. I opted for the replacement. This one is exhibiting more baffling behavior. Any help diagnosing the cause is appreciated. Scans of the test roll are here: http://dscott.home.texas.net/ME%20Super/ME_Super_2/me_super_2.html Thanks, Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S (Please help me understand)
Which would cause the price of the MZ-S to drop as well... Good point At 10:04 PM -04006/16/01, Mark D. , under cross examination, admitted: >Jeff, > >One more thing to keep in mind is that Pentax has, at times, replaced a body >fairly soon after its release. The PZ-1 turned PZ-1p and ZX-5 turned ZX-5n. >(Putting on flame-retardent suit) If you're hesistant at all about the MZ-S, >it might well be worthwhile to see if a MZ-Sn comes out in a couple of >years. > >Mark -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S (Please help me understand)
When I have hair, it's wavy. Doug At 12:32 AM -04006/16/01, Ann Sanfedele , under cross examination, admitted: > >Damn! and I was _just_ going to order one of those - you know, one that would make >me a photographer >about 6 " tall, wavy hair, 180 lbs, a winning smile and willing to carry the tri-pod >and 600mm. Oh well. > >annsan -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: BG-10 grip questions
I believe the BG-10 is indeed metal, but I'll have to check. I can tell you that when it is attached to the camera, it's difficult to tell where the camera ends and the grip begins. Just off the top of my head, I don't think the FG will fit. The attachment method is different (and pretty cool, I might add) for one thing, and the doohickey (<--technical term) sticking up into the body might be a bit different. I tried to get the strap part of my Grip Strap to attach to the MZ-S and BG-10, but the bottom strap was too wide for the BG-10 strap attachment thingy (<--technical term). Let me be the first to request that Pentax make a hand strap for the MZ-S. Doug At 10:40 AM +02006/16/01, Carlos Royo , under cross examination, admitted: >For the ones who have been lucky enough to put their hands on one of >those beasts: does the BG-10 also have a magnesium skin, like the MZ-S? >And I would like to know too if it is possible to use the AA grip for >the rest of the MZ line (Fg) with the MZ-S > >-- >Carlos Royo >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Fw: pentax lenses...
> Thanks Mark.. love to see some reviews of M42 mount lenses.. esp old 85 mm > and 105mm Takumars..Anyone have experience they would like to share. ? > Steve > - Original Message - > From: "Mark D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 7:06 PM > Subject: Fw: pentax lenses... > > > > Here's a page with reviews of K-mount lenses: > > > > http://www.concentric.net/~smhalpin/ > > > > Mark > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Steve Barbour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Pentax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 4:54 PM > > Subject: pentax lenses... > > > > > > > Is there a web site that gives good quality reviews of the best pentax > > > lenses including older ones...thanks Steve > > > > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > > > > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Slow Server!!! (was: FA 70-210)
Joe, The archive service handles over 5000 lists, and sometimes things run a little slowly. Add that it's an entirely volunteer effort, and I'd say a four day lag is forgivable. Thanks, Doug At 4:29 PM -06006/16/01, Joseph Tainter , under cross examination, admitted: >Slower than ZX-5 autofocus. I posted this on June 12. It showed up on >the archive on June 16. > >Joe -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
This is a test - no msg's on 06/16/01?
Find it unlikely that there are no messages on this date. So testing to see if it works. Thanks for your patience. Paul Gutkowski
Re: MZ-S (Please help me understand)
From: Jeff Geilenkirchen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thanks for the feedback all! I totally understand the points being made. > I look forward to handling the MZ-S and see for myself if it's worth it. Jeff, One more thing to keep in mind is that Pentax has, at times, replaced a body fairly soon after its release. The PZ-1 turned PZ-1p and ZX-5 turned ZX-5n. (Putting on flame-retardent suit) If you're hesistant at all about the MZ-S, it might well be worthwhile to see if a MZ-Sn comes out in a couple of years. Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax CCD spec V0.1 was (Pentax CCD back design)
Well let's put it like this just my electronic design charges for a similar project would be around 75KUS to 90KUS... including, firmware, and computer software... I have a net profit way higher than Pentax ;-) and pentax has to spread that X00K+ on a lot of machines... I don't since Ill do that as hobby... No "electronic" design cost... the firmware will be done by someone else... Not my "beer",as in too much work. Phil > On 16 Jun 2001, at 22:51, Philippe Trottier wrote: > > > I know that part :-(( but hey I have the scope ... and since it is a small > > series (I would not > > dream of more than 50 units max) then we can white bal all of them one by > > one with the scop > > Hi Philippe, > > This little project is sounding quite interesting, I am impressed that you > consider it within your scope of competence. My question is that if the > development costs are so reasonable why haven't Pentax done it already :-( > > Cheers, > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax CCD spec V0.1 was (Pentax CCD back design)
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:44:52 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: >This little project is sounding quite interesting, I am impressed that you >consider it within your scope of competence. My question is that if the >development costs are so reasonable why haven't Pentax done it already :-( I have given thought to this sort of thing for quite some time. My design always had the back being replaced and the main components in a screw on part on the base of the camera (like a grip strap only bigger). The back would have the pickup and cache circuitry to deliver the data to the base (possibly via fibre optics) and the viewing screen. Connection between the camera back and the camera base would be made by contacts on the base of the replacement door. The base would hold the batteries, storage media and controls associated with the digital side (view/edit/delete images mode and so on). I had planned on trying it with an already existing digital camera - just pulling the guts out of it and putting it into my camera - and the AA battery grip for the PZ1p that CAM Engineering was working on. This would give me a 2 megapixel camera for under US$1000. The only problem being the pickup sensor size. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Late PUG comments
Gianfranco, thanks for the comments. I appreciate you taking the time. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Gianfranco Irlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 8:49 PM Subject: Late PUG comments > Hi everybody, > I know I'm a bit late but unfortunately I've been sick, after being too busy, > so... > > I'd like to mention the images that caught my eye this month, in no particular > order: > > snip, snip, snip... > " Taos View " > by Ken Waller, Michigan, USA > What can I say more? Very well done. It shows a great composition and a > perfect way to arrange the elements of different colors. > > Gianfranco - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S and More ?
On 17 Jun 2001, at 0:32, Pentax Clover wrote: > I need to say this ! > By talking about MZ-S with all the list, I get agree it is a very good SLR > But, it is also a SLR with missing features for me and have extra features I do > not need > > Second, sometimes, I do express what average people wish because the most of the > sold SLR are not due to Pro but users who gets a SLR for his pleasure, his proud > ! Not his use in photography I have been watching this thread and have elected not to comment to date but this one got me, I suspect that the sentence above should read: "Second, sometimes, I do express what average people wish but only because of what they read in the bull sh*t advertising dumped on us by non- photographic marketing types who would not understand a great feature set if it were staring them in the face" The fact is that many mainstream journalistic photographers seem to use fill flash religiously whether it adds to the image or not so high speed sync has become a "need". Most amateur photographers don't shoot high speed sports (and those that do should buy equipment suitable for the purpose) so an average frame advance rate of 2.5fps is really 99% of the time completely adequate. I myself am looking for a compact, robust camera with a good utilitarian feature set AKA MZ-S. Just check the open PUG galleries to see the spread of subjects covered by Pentax listers, I would assume (from the comments that I read) that most of were shot using exposure parameters well within the scope of the MZ-S capabilities. Wherein lies the problems then? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital Film (WAS: RE: CCD back for Pentax?)
Oh, definetly. But at an expected MSRP of $7000 it will be a little while before I can afford that. I am hoping to see a pro level digital camera with the exposure control of the z1p. Nick --- Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I am waiting with anticipation to see > what Pentax's digital SLR > offering will be (will it ever come?) before I take > the plunge with any > half-hearted solutions. A few weekends ago, I spent > the weekend at the track > with my brother's Canon D30 shooting handheld with > his 80-200/2.8. > > http://www.lumine.net/driving/motegi/ > > It was my first outing with his camera so there was > a lot to learn; the best > thing was that I was able to shoot freely with his > Microdrive inside (1GB > storage, equivalent to several thousand shots).Yes, > quantity does not equal > quality, but practice sure does make perfect, > especially when you can shoot, > shoot, and shoot again without worrying about how > much film you have left or > what it will cost to get all the rolls developed. > > All in all, I shot about 500 shots with a huge > amount going into the Trash > but at least next time, I know what I should and > shouldn't be doing! > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #858 > > > > pentax-discuss-digest Saturday, June 16 2001 > Volume 01 : Number 858 > > -- > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:48:19 -0700 (PDT) > From: Nicholas Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Digital Film (WAS: RE: CCD back for > Pentax?) > > - --- Isaac Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The biggest problem with this approach is that > you > > give up some of the > > most positive features of digital photography... > > instant viewing, > > adjustable white balance, removable media, editing > > in camera, and > > instant wysiwyg for things like exposure > > compensation. If you're willing > > to put up with the inferior image quality of > > digital, you should at > > least get to use the positives of that medium!:-) > > > > Isaac > > First of all, I never said it was a perfect option; > just a viable one. And for $700 if/when it is made > for > the z1p I will have one in my bag. :) But I really > think that the limitations are really, imo, not > really > limitations. It's like the site says, "film, but > digital." The main reasons that I prefer digital > over > film is; 1) Elimination of waste no chemicals, > little > packaging, reusability, etc; 2) Reduction of cost > and > time. This unit fulfills those needs. But, I think, > it > is a technology a little ahead of it's time. It does > need work. > > Nick > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > = Blessed Be, Nicholas Wright __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More about stiff aperture rings
On 15 Jun 2001, at 22:07, Cotty wrote: > But - what happens when you squeeze a metal aperture ring? Answer, > nothing. The fact it is metal means that it holds its shape. When you > squeeze a plastic/poly-something aperture ring, it changes shape from a > true circle, very very slightly, but just enough to cause the lens mount > metalwork underneath to act like drum brake on the aperture ring. The net > result is that the more you squeeze, the less it wants to turn. > Unfortunately, the less you squeeze, the less it also wants to turn > because of the small spring-loaded ball dropping into the tiny detents, > giving the aperture the 'clicks'. Brilliant Catch-22. I thanks that the problem stems from the fact that Pentax adapted a design with was originally intended for manufacture from metal to a plastic without changing the design simply to preserve visual integrity in the lens line. The new Mamiya 7 lenses (read expensive) all have plastic aperture rings, the difference is that the physical design of the rings is such that it is plain to see that there will never be any problems with distortion or binding. They were made much deeper than wide so they are quite rigid and they actually feel quite good to use. So I am not put off by plastic components as long as they are engineered with respect to their properties. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital Film (WAS: RE: CCD back for Pentax?)
On 17 Jun 2001, at 8:43, Jeff wrote: > All in all, I shot about 500 shots with a huge amount going into the Trash > but at least next time, I know what I should and shouldn't be doing! ...and then you can take a real camera ... with film :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax - better or not?
Hello here is the answer a friend of mine wish to tell you about minolta : MINOLTA n'utilise pas, comme le prétend ton interlocuteur de "base de données" pour la détermination de l'expo. Celle ci se fait, depuis le 7 xi, par le système fuzzy logic, "logique floue" en Français. Chaque paramètre de la prise de vue est analysé par l'appareil qui après de savants calculs en déduit le type de scène à laquelle il a affaire. Exemple grossier : focale courte, mise au point sur l'infini, premier plan présent = paysage. C'est très succint comme exemple car il y a en réalité plusieurs centaines de données analysées, mais en aucun cas une comparaison avec un stock de scènes en mémoire dans l'appareil. In english with babel : MINOLTA does not use, as claims it your interlocutor of " data base " for the determination of the expo. That Ci is done, since the 7 xi, by the system fuzzy logic, " fuzzy logic " in French. Each parameter of the catch of sight is analyzed by the apparatus which afterwards of scientists calculations deduces the type from it of scene to which it deals. Coarse example: short focal distance, developed on the infinite one, foreground present = landscape. It is very succint like example because there are actually several hundreds of analyzed data, but to in no case a comparison with a stock of scenes in memory in the apparatus. See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax CCD spec V0.1 was (Pentax CCD back design)
On 16 Jun 2001, at 22:51, Philippe Trottier wrote: > I know that part :-(( but hey I have the scope ... and since it is a small > series (I would not > dream of more than 50 units max) then we can white bal all of them one by > one with the scop Hi Philippe, This little project is sounding quite interesting, I am impressed that you consider it within your scope of competence. My question is that if the development costs are so reasonable why haven't Pentax done it already :-( Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital Film (WAS: RE: CCD back for Pentax?)
Personally, I am waiting with anticipation to see what Pentax's digital SLR offering will be (will it ever come?) before I take the plunge with any half-hearted solutions. A few weekends ago, I spent the weekend at the track with my brother's Canon D30 shooting handheld with his 80-200/2.8. http://www.lumine.net/driving/motegi/ It was my first outing with his camera so there was a lot to learn; the best thing was that I was able to shoot freely with his Microdrive inside (1GB storage, equivalent to several thousand shots).Yes, quantity does not equal quality, but practice sure does make perfect, especially when you can shoot, shoot, and shoot again without worrying about how much film you have left or what it will cost to get all the rolls developed. All in all, I shot about 500 shots with a huge amount going into the Trash but at least next time, I know what I should and shouldn't be doing! Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #858 pentax-discuss-digest Saturday, June 16 2001 Volume 01 : Number 858 -- Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:48:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicholas Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Digital Film (WAS: RE: CCD back for Pentax?) - --- Isaac Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The biggest problem with this approach is that you > give up some of the > most positive features of digital photography... > instant viewing, > adjustable white balance, removable media, editing > in camera, and > instant wysiwyg for things like exposure > compensation. If you're willing > to put up with the inferior image quality of > digital, you should at > least get to use the positives of that medium!:-) > > Isaac First of all, I never said it was a perfect option; just a viable one. And for $700 if/when it is made for the z1p I will have one in my bag. :) But I really think that the limitations are really, imo, not really limitations. It's like the site says, "film, but digital." The main reasons that I prefer digital over film is; 1) Elimination of waste no chemicals, little packaging, reusability, etc; 2) Reduction of cost and time. This unit fulfills those needs. But, I think, it is a technology a little ahead of it's time. It does need work. Nick - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S and More ?
- Original Message - From: "Pentax Clover" > You know that even Pro who use Nikon F-5 regulary check the SLR, even Leica > M6 user... > I really hope the MZ-S is as reliable as you say ! > But of course. This is an area where Pentax could really learn a lesson or two from the competition. Product support for older equipment is non existent. A couple of years back, I had a heck of a time getting replacement parts for my A 50mm f/1.2, which was about 12 years old. No apologies, but an offer to sell me a new (but not the same focal length or maximum aperture) lens at a competitive price. At that point, the A 50mm f/1.2 was still current At the same time, we sent a friends Nikon F2 (circa 1975) to Nikon for repair. He had drownded it in a canoe tipover. (Contrary to popular belief, Canadians will tip also, but you really have to earn it.) Nikon very apologetically indicated that they could no longer service the camera, as it had been discontinued for 20 years, but they did suggest a few independant shops. Leica has probably the best repair service of all, from what I have heard. I have no way of knowing if the MZ-S will prove to be reliable, though I expect it to be. William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. Submission deadline is June 30, 2001 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax lenses...
Me too..could you check the URL and send again please...Steve - Original Message - From: "Frank Theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Re: pentax lenses... > Hmmm... I've tried that url a couple of times now, and got 404-ed each time. > > -frank > > "Jaros³aw Brzeziñski" wrote: > > > I believe you can find results of tests of lenses of all makes done at the Hasselblad > > lab at the following address: > > http://www.photo.se/nav/prodindex.html > > > > Steve Barbour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa³ / wrote: > > > > > Is there a web site that gives good quality reviews of the best pentax > > > lenses including older ones...thanks Steve > > > > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > > > > > > --- > > WP i Vision zapraszaj±! Film "Czekolada" z Juliette Binoche i Johnny Deppem jest spoko! > > Stronka te¿ spox: < www.czekolada.vision.pl > Wiêcej takich filmów! Kamil > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > -- > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is > true." -J. Robert > Oppenheimer > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax lenses...
Hmmm... I've tried that url a couple of times now, and got 404-ed each time. -frank "Jaros³aw Brzeziñski" wrote: > I believe you can find results of tests of lenses of all makes done at the Hasselblad > lab at the following address: > http://www.photo.se/nav/prodindex.html > > Steve Barbour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa³ / wrote: > > > Is there a web site that gives good quality reviews of the best pentax > > lenses including older ones...thanks Steve > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > > --- > WP i Vision zapraszaj±! Film "Czekolada" z Juliette Binoche i Johnny Deppem jest >spoko! > Stronka te¿ spox: < www.czekolada.vision.pl > Wiêcej takich filmów! Kamil > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Late PUG comments
Hi everybody, I know I'm a bit late but unfortunately I've been sick, after being too busy, so... I'd like to mention the images that caught my eye this month, in no particular order: " Bathroom Plan " by Bill Gekas, Australia A nice way to fit the theme. I like the softness of the light and the composition. " Bahia Blanca " by Juan Buhler, USA A bit sad but an interesting document. " Arch/Whale " by Frantisek Vlcek, Czech Republic Great shot. It does remind me of the graphic style of André Kertész. " New York Geometry " by Paul Stenquist, USA Maybe this is the more interesting architectural element I've seen in the gallery. Impressive building and appropriate shot. " Cinderella's Castle " by Steve Larson, USA Well, maybe it is not properly on theme but it's nice... " Moghul Tomb " by Carlos Royo, Spain Good composition and a nice lighting on the tomb. " Looking Up I See the Windows Coming Upwards " by Alexey Tikhonov, Russia One of my favorite this month. A great light and an almost perfect way to compose the shot. It can be the cover of a novel by Kafka. " Gangway " by Arnold Stark, Germany Another good shot. This has its strength in the perfect way of dividing the frame in two, leaving the left part significantly smaller than the right one. Very well balanced. I like the light, too. " Evening Stroll " by William Johnson, USA My choice for this month. It's almost perfect. The light is magical and the couple acts as the perfect complement to the mystery emanating from the building. I'd only have tried to have the couple more visible in the print, masking that part a little. " Upper Level " by Cory Waters from Atlanta, GA USA Another great shot. It's amazing what you can do with a 50mm and a B&W film sometimes... " Taos View " by Ken Waller, Michigan, USA What can I say more? Very well done. It shows a great composition and a perfect way to arrange the elements of different colors. " The Gallery " by Norm Baugher, Germany/USA Another shot that attracts me for its geometry. I like the SF appeal. Gianfranco Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Late PUG comments
Hi everybody, I know I'm a bit late but unfortunately I've been sick, after being too busy, so... I'd like to mention the images that caught my eye this month, in no particular order: " Bathroom Plan " by Bill Gekas, Australia A nice way to fit the theme. I like the softness of the light and the composition. " Bahia Blanca " by Juan Buhler, USA A bit sad but an interesting document. " Arch/Whale " by Frantisek Vlcek, Czech Republic Great shot. It does remind me of the graphic style of André Kertész. " New York Geometry " by Paul Stenquist, USA Maybe this is the more interesting architectural element I've seen in the gallery. Impressive building and appropriate shot. " Cinderella's Castle " by Steve Larson, USA Well, maybe it is not properly on theme but it's nice... " Moghul Tomb " by Carlos Royo, Spain Good composition and a nice lighting on the tomb. " Looking Up I See the Windows Coming Upwards " by Alexey Tikhonov, Russia One of my favorite this month. A great light and an almost perfect way to compose the shot. It can be the cover of a novel by Kafka. " Gangway " by Arnold Stark, Germany Another good shot. This has its strength in the perfect way of dividing the frame in two, leaving the left part significantly smaller than the right one. Very well balanced. I like the light, too. " Evening Stroll " by William Johnson, USA My choice for this month. It's almost perfect. The light is magical and the couple acts as the perfect complement to the mystery emanating from the building. I'd only have tried to have the couple more visible in the print, masking that part a little. " Upper Level " by Cory Waters from Atlanta, GA USA Another great shot. It's amazing what you can do with a 50mm and a B&W film sometimes... " Taos View " by Ken Waller, Michigan, USA What can I say more? Very well done. It shows a great composition and a perfect way to arrange the elements of different colors. " The Gallery " by Norm Baugher, Germany/USA Another shot that attracts me for its geometry. I like the SF appeal. Gianfranco Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S and More ?
From: "Pål Jensen" > I don'æt agree. I'll rather be without features I use once a year. Features cost money or have other drawbacks like higher power consumption. I like features that are being used regularly and are useful and don't want to pay for seldomly used features. Nor do I want to carry dead weight; that is features that increases thei weight but seldomly or never used. Sure, but that is your knowledge about photo, but it is the average ? > You seem to forget that small size are features as well as any and that many of us have no interest in a feature count competition. The features you mention don't do anything for me getting better images. You also seem to forget that the extra 1,5 fps rate At a speed at 1/1000s you'll gain only 1,5/1000 of the action compared to the MZ-S. You'll still miss 996/1000 of the action with 4fps compared to the MZ-S 997,5/1000 - hardly a big difference. Of course small side is important, that is why I own a MZ-3 I need to say this ! By talking about MZ-S with all the list, I get agree it is a very good SLR But, it is also a SLR with missing features for me and have extra features I do not need Second, sometimes, I do express what average people wish because the most of the sold SLR are not due to Pro but users who gets a SLR for his pleasure, his proud ! Not his use in photography My point of vue is that the MZ-S is a very good SLR, but compare to my MZ-3, it is very expensive (I paid my MZ-3 its half price) So there is some difficulties I need to fight in order to realize how much the MZ-S is a SLR I need. At last, I go on hoping Pentax makes a F-100 like (remember a PZ-1p is quite as big) Also Hope my Bank will not call me because of buying the MZ-S _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
My PUG comments: David Dixon & RK
Hi everybody, Sorry for being late. I've been sick for a while too long... My comments for this month: " Durham Cathedral " by David Dixon, UK As you state, this shot may be better classified as a landscape, or, maybe, as 'architecture in landscape'. The strenght of the shot is in its colors: I think the autumn trees become very well the buildings. The light itself looks wonderful. The only flaw I can find is that the shot appears a little static. I'd like to see the uncropped version. " Fisheye Architecture " by RK, India I'm still trying to find a good way to use the fisheye while shooting the exteriors of the buildings. The image has the major flaw in its sky, completely washed out: being the northrn side of the building maybe there is no way to have it properly exposed with a saturated sky, but I think that's what makes the shot a bit ugly. Maybe cropping the dark upper part of what seems the entrance could help to have a high-key graphic image. Gianfranco Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fw: old mint pentax....
An invention that definitely comes from East German screw-mount Prakticas is electronic transmission of information about the aperture set from a lens to the camera: three contacts provided this information, albeit it was non-digital communication based on a resistor. Pentax much improved such communication in A-series lenses and cameras and raised it to digital level. Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa³ / wrote: > I am not sure about "automatic stop down" which appeared in > the late fifties, but Pentax is the originator or the > "automatic reopen aperture", the "instant return mirror", > and the "behind the lens meter". Pentax had a history of > inventing SLR inprovements and licensing them very cheaply > to other companies. Sometimes to the point where the other > companies had them on the market before Pentax. > --Tom > > > "Juan J. Buhler" wrote: > > > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > > > > > Actually it is a "Practika screw mount". Pentax did not > > > invent it they adopted it from the german cameras. That > > > ain't bad, it just means there are more lenses available out > > > there than you though. M42 is the generic name for the > > > mount. > > > > Yup, you're right, although I've heard "Pentax SM" more often than > > "Practika SM." > > > > BTW, was the implementation of automatic aperture on these lenses also > > invented by someone else? Was it standard? > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > --- P.S. Szukasz Kontaktu? Kliknij link i przy³ó¿ rêce do ekranu monitora! < http://kontakt.wp.pl/ > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Slow Server!!! (was: FA 70-210)
Slower than ZX-5 autofocus. I posted this on June 12. It showed up on the archive on June 16. Joe > I bought an SMC F 70-210 on ebay a while back. It arrived with aperture blades >stuck. KEH quoted me $110 for an overhaul. I don't know how that compares. > > A power zoom might be more? > > (After paying $120 for the lens, which was advertised as good, $110 more for repair >was too much, so I sent it back. I now have a good version of the same lens, bought from KEH.) > > Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S and More ?
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:01:11 +0200, Pentax Clover wrote: >> . High-speed flash synchronization up to 1/6000 sec. with >> built-in flash or with new AF360FGZ wireless TTL flash unit > >Dawn, I do not believe it... >If this is true, well, MZ-S going to replace my MZ-3... Better start listing your MZ-3 for sale It's true! Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: O. Winston, anybody
My son, Steven, just picked a flash that would use them. It's an old Heiland Research unit, with a battery extension, two cables, and an adapter to use the bayonet bulbs as well as the old large bulbs. He's been thinking of using some of them. I think to blind his brother. He might be interested in them. Collin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S and More ?
From: "Pål Jensen" The MZ-S is competitively priced for what it offers. But maybe this is not the most needed features for commons users. That is why it is perceived as expensive _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax lenses...
I believe you can find results of tests of lenses of all makes done at the Hasselblad lab at the following address: http://www.photo.se/nav/prodindex.html Steve Barbour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa³ / wrote: > Is there a web site that gives good quality reviews of the best pentax > lenses including older ones...thanks Steve > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > --- WP i Vision zapraszaj±! Film "Czekolada" z Juliette Binoche i Johnny Deppem jest spoko! Stronka te¿ spox: < www.czekolada.vision.pl > Wiêcej takich filmów! Kamil - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Fw: old mint pentax....
> Yup, you're right, although I've heard "Pentax SM" more often than > "Practika SM." Before I came to this list around 1996 I had only heard of Praktica thread. I guess it depends on where you live. > BTW, was the implementation of automatic aperture on these lenses also > invented by someone else? Was it standard? As far as I know it is a later extension of the mount, much like how Pentax added all kinds of contacts to the first K mount. Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Special Price - MZ-S
I also sent clicked on the Special button on the B&H MZ-S page. I received a current discount price "special item number" quote at 5:48:21 pm Friday afternoon. I sent a return email requesting a complete quote to include shipping so that I could pay by check (my normal method of payment with B&H) but have not received a reply. I believe each individual receives a unique "special item number. I haven't heard either positively or negatively about my response. Hopefully I will hear something on Sunday! Good luck to all that applied. It definitely sounds like B&H was overwhelmed with our responses! Now, if only they'll get in the black 'Limited' lenses! Then I can really head to the Poor House! Alexander Grigolia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More about stiff aperture rings
>Thank you for your enlightening explanation for why some lenses have stiff >aperture rings. However, I would like to point out that the A*85/1.4 is >not "most lenses". Frank, Point well and truly accepted! :-) Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Special Price - MZ-S
I tried the 62PEMZDf9b # and B&H emailed me saying that the sale had been discontinued. I'm figuring the sale went beyond their expectations? Cheers, Bob --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Bob, > > Doesn't B&H close on Friday afternoons? > You should try again Sunday. > > The MZ-S didn't show 'in-stock' on the web site even > at 11:30AM. > Use the phone. > > ...entirely too much enabling going on here now! > I'm waiting for the MZ-Sn... > > Regards, Bob S. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << I tried to order one at about 11:45 PM EDT and > the > item was "out of stock" The fates are aginst my > having the MZ-S. > Mourning after...Bob >> > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S and More ?
- Original Message - From: "Pentax Clover" Subject: Re: MZ-S and More ? > Yes, but it is funny ! I usually try to make others photo fans understand > that we can make pictures even with P&S ! > And I also need to defend Pentax because in France they often say that > Pentax will stop SLR soon... They also said that the Maginot line would protect France from invasion. > > So here in the list, for the first time, I can discuss about some Pentax > missing for my opinion ! It sounds like you are discussing the opinions of others, and not your own somehow. > > So it is funny, and I find this funny I hope you also found this funny. William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. Submission deadline is June 30, 2001 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S and More ?
Some thoughts on this rather stupid thread below. - Original Message - From: "Pentax Clover" < Subject: Re: MZ-S and More ? > I am OK that the MZ-S is the cheapest all metal, solid AF body out there if > you except the N90s/ F90x. But I am asking myself what is more important > for a picture, and I do not think that Metal body change a lot if others > features are missing, it will be as I buy a beautifull but empty box It is also the smallest one out there. The Nikons and Canons are oversized bloated pigs of cameras. If you want a camera that big and heavy, why buy one with an inadequate format size. I would rather have a 645 format if the camera is as big as a 645. There is an important feature you are completely forgetting in the big Nikons. Big camera, small negative. Big failure. As we are seeing now, all metal cameras last longer. The Spotmatics are getting close to 40 years old, and still going strong. That is a very important feature, unless you consider a camera to be disposable, like a paper napkin. For myself, I am still using 20 year old metal bodied cameras as my front line equipment. It has been a reassuring relationship, knowing that I don't have to relearn a camera every 5 years as the plastic wears out. I am sure Pentax could have put a 1/12000 second top speed into it, with a 1/8000 second flash sync, and a 5 frame per second drive rate. I am also sure it would have made the camera closer to the 6x7 in dimensions and weight, sort of like the F100 is. That has never been the Pentax way. Historically, compact sizing has always been one of the first design parameters for Pentax, even at the expense of some "features" that may or may not be useful. Camera design is all about compromise. I use Pentax because I like the compromises they make better then the compromises their competition makes. The thing I am least willing to compromise on is lens quality. If I used Nikon or Canon or Minolta, I would have to compromise in that area, and my pictures would suffer for it, much more than losing a frame per second in drive speed, or a 1/3 stop of flash sync. Unfortunately, I had to compromise somewhat. I couldn't afford Leica. So I went with what I considered the next best thing. One of the first things my mentor taught me was that any compromise in the "feature set" (this was back in the days when 1/2000 second top speed and 1/80 second flash sync was a "feature") could be worked around by applied intelligence. If the lens quality wasn't there, it didn't matter how you approached the subject. William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. Submission deadline is June 30, 2001 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Special Price - MZ-S
Bob, Doesn't B&H close on Friday afternoons? You should try again Sunday. The MZ-S didn't show 'in-stock' on the web site even at 11:30AM. Use the phone. ...entirely too much enabling going on here now! I'm waiting for the MZ-Sn... Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I tried to order one at about 11:45 PM EDT and the item was "out of stock" The fates are aginst my having the MZ-S. Mourning after...Bob >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Penta Russian ?
- Original Message - From: "*" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: June 16, 2001 1:26 AM Subject: Penta Russian ? > This link is no more working ? > http://www.penta-club.org/penta/ Looks like Dan is in the process of changing servers. These things can be a bugger because of the number of absolute links that have to change. I suspect he will have it up and running pretty soon. William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. Submission deadline is June 30, 2001 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Special Price - MZ-S
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:25:53 -0700 (PDT), Bob Poe wrote: >I tried to order one at about 11:45 PM EDT and the >item was "out of stock" The fates are aginst my >having the MZ-S. Don't feel bad, Bob. I too suffered the sight of those three little words, Out of Stock! :-( Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S (Please help me understand)
Thanks for the feedback all! I totally understand the points being made. I look forward to handling the MZ-S and see for myself if it's worth it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Brewer Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 6:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S (Please help me understand) Jeff, ALL cameras are the same camera with differing sets of bells and whistles. But you knew that. The trick is to =know= what bell and whistles are important and desirable for your photography, then look for a camera that contains the largest number of your desired features at a price you are willing to pay. If the features of the PZ-1p are a good fit for you, buy it. If the feature set of the MZ-S is closer, then consider it. Hell, if the F100 is a better fit, buy =it=. Two things to remember: 1. There's not a camera on God's green earth that will make you a Photographer (and please, all you literalist folk, you know what I mean). 2. How a camera feels in your hand is as important as what the camera can do. If you don't enjoy using the camera, it doesn't matter if the camera can work miracles, because you won't use it. Conversely, if you really enjoy using the camera, you'll find ways to overlook any apparent shortcomings in the feature department. Doug At 7:46 AM -07006/15/01, Jeff Geilenkirchen , under cross examination, admitted: >Hi all! I'm an avid reader of this list (since I feel I don't know enough >to provide solid info) and have enjoyed gaining some good knowledge from the >group. I'm hoping to gain another bit of insight if possible. > >Throughout the planning and release of the MZ-S the talk on the list has >been one of great innovation and wonderful progress with the new body. The >point I'm having trouble with is when I do a comparison between the PZ-1P >and the MZ-S on the Pentax site, they look like the same basic camera with a >couple of different bells and whistles (although the interface is pretty >cool). Thus, I can't really justify how the MZ-S is about double the PZ-1P. > >Please help me find how I can make the transition in my mind to tell myself >that I can spend $400+ more on the MZ-S. > >Have a great day, > >Jeff >Elk Grove, CA > -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fw: old mint pentax....
I am not sure about "automatic stop down" which appeared in the late fifties, but Pentax is the originator or the "automatic reopen aperture", the "instant return mirror", and the "behind the lens meter". Pentax had a history of inventing SLR inprovements and licensing them very cheaply to other companies. Sometimes to the point where the other companies had them on the market before Pentax. --Tom "Juan J. Buhler" wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > > > Actually it is a "Practika screw mount". Pentax did not > > invent it they adopted it from the german cameras. That > > ain't bad, it just means there are more lenses available out > > there than you though. M42 is the generic name for the > > mount. > > Yup, you're right, although I've heard "Pentax SM" more often than > "Practika SM." > > BTW, was the implementation of automatic aperture on these lenses also > invented by someone else? Was it standard? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Special Price - MZ-S
Bruce, I tried to order one at about 11:45 PM EDT and the item was "out of stock" The fates are aginst my having the MZ-S. Mourning after...Bob --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the forward! I believe I just might jump > on this. Any issues > that I need to be aware of? Why did they notify > you? > > Bruce Dayton > Sacramento, CA > > > - Original Message - > From: "Gary L. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax Users Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 8:27 AM > Subject: Fwd: Special Price - MZ-S > > > > Just got this from B & H!! > > > > ==BEGIN FORWARDED > MESSAGE= > > Dear Customer, > > > > Thank you for shopping at B&H Photo Video. > > > > Our current discounted price for the: > > > > Pentax - MZ-S 35mm SLR Auto Focus Camera Body Date > > > > is $799.95 > > > > To purchase this item at the discounted price. > Please enter > > this item number q1PEMZSDo27 in the quick > search box > > located in the top-bar throughout our site. > > > > Please note, due to the manufacturer's > restrictions we are only allowed > > to have this item active until approximately 2:00 > am EST. > > > > Should you want to buy this item at a later time, > please enter this item > > numberPEMZSD in the quick search box. > > > > We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have > caused. > > > > > > The Web Team > > B&H Photo > > 420 Ninth Avenue > > New York, NY 10001, USA > > 800-606-6969 > > 212-444-6615 > > > > > > > > ===END FORWARDED > MESSAGE=== > > > > > > Later, > > Gary > > > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wanted K1000/MX
Older all mechanical Pentax SLRs are indestructible to a point. Since the K1000 has only been out of production for 4 years and still available new in some markets, it still is a viable option. I found 2 over the last 2 months including a pristine all metal 1977 model and a "like new" Hong Kong edition for less than 100 US. I kept the 77 model and traded the other straight across for a equally pristine MX. The dealer did not know what he had Either of these cameras will outlast MZ-M/ZX-M cameras IMHO. As a member of the "old school" (my kids say "real old school) and having had both the SFX-1n and PZ-1p. I still prefer a old mechanical SLR. Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Wanted K1000/MX > Tom, > They're ok to begin with, but they're old. > EBay aside, even a good one has a number of > years on it. That's hard to justify, in > my mind. Better a newer ZX-M. Decent build > and same character -- manual focus and classic > manual exposure. Plus Av, Tv, Program, and > DOF Preview to boot. > > And often cheaper than a K1000 or MX! > > If you're set on one of those bodies, > Midwest Photo has a decent MX (black with some > brassing), a couple of K1000 bodies, and a > KM that looks pretty decent. > www.mpex.com Ask for Abdi. > > Collin > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
My MZ-S came in :-0 !!!!!!
I did my usual stop at my photo store. The salesclerk silently came
up to me and held out the bosed MZ-S. He said they figured they would let
me do the honors of opening it! That's right my MZ-S came in!
I had to meet friends for dinner and I fought valiantly to keep the
camera empty while I finish the manual - this after I played with it in the
store. Don't worry I left the camera on the floor in the company of two
LXs, an MZ-5, a ZX-5, and a Super Program not to mention assorted lenses.
I will be helping a friend with a boat this morning. I hope to get
out to take pictures this afternoon or at the rodeo tonight - I will be
carrying an LX to that also.
Sorry for the rambling, just had to tell someone. Now if I can get
all the Pentax Functions set to my liking before I start shooting seriously
;-) Report forthcoming
César Matamoros II
Panama City, Florida
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Re: Wanted K1000/MX
Tom, They're ok to begin with, but they're old. EBay aside, even a good one has a number of years on it. That's hard to justify, in my mind. Better a newer ZX-M. Decent build and same character -- manual focus and classic manual exposure. Plus Av, Tv, Program, and DOF Preview to boot. And often cheaper than a K1000 or MX! If you're set on one of those bodies, Midwest Photo has a decent MX (black with some brassing), a couple of K1000 bodies, and a KM that looks pretty decent. www.mpex.com Ask for Abdi. Collin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wanted K1000/MX
Ebay cycles are just like retail stores. Prices drop in the summer because we'd rather be out in the sun than on the computer. Outfits sometimes go really cheap. July is my favorite ebay buying month. Collin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S and More ?
Pentax's data sheets/brochures say that the RTF only syncs up to 1/180 sec. I believe that in order to get flash sync to 1/6000 sec we have to buy a brand new flash designed specifically for the MZ-S with that feature. Another $300+ investment, if it's priced close to the AF500FTZ. It's probably worth the price. Len --- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pål Jensen > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 5:34 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: MZ-S and More ? > > > Bucky wrote: > > > > And if Nikon had brought it out you'd be sneering > at it, and that's a fact > > too. > > Certainly not! If it had been a Nikon I would have > considered switching brand. > > > >Dog > > forbid anyone should express a preference for > another brand! It's like > > discussing morality with a fundie. > > > I'm a fan of the F100. But I prefer the MZ-S which is > basically a shrinken F100 with added Pentax features > like data imprinting, brilliant interface, RTF flash > that synch at all speeds, an extra AF point, hyper > modes etc. The trade-off for small size is slightly > slower fps rate and half a stop slower x-synch. It > also sells at a lower price so I don't understand the > criticism. Its allright that this camera doesn't have > all the features some might want but that has nothing > to do with not being worth its cost. The MZ-S is > competitively priced for what it offers. > > > Pål > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S and More ?
Bucky wrote: > And if Nikon had brought it out you'd be sneering at it, and that's a fact > too. Certainly not! If it had been a Nikon I would have considered switching brand. >Dog > forbid anyone should express a preference for another brand! It's like > discussing morality with a fundie. I'm a fan of the F100. But I prefer the MZ-S which is basically a shrinken F100 with added Pentax features like data imprinting, brilliant interface, RTF flash that synch at all speeds, an extra AF point, hyper modes etc. The trade-off for small size is slightly slower fps rate and half a stop slower x-synch. It also sells at a lower price so I don't understand the criticism. Its allright that this camera doesn't have all the features some might want but that has nothing to do with not being worth its cost. The MZ-S is competitively priced for what it offers. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S and More ?
Clover wrote: > I am OK that the MZ-S is the cheapest all metal, solid AF body out there if > you except the N90s/ F90x. The F90 is plastic and not at all an all metal, solid AF body. Its lens mount flexes with something as light as a 80-200/2.8 and the bottom plate flexes when the camera is on a tripod. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Report
John wrote: > I am hoping to hear how the MZ-S shoots with the FA* > 600/4 in the field, especially compared to the PZ1p. Its one of the first thing I'll do on monday weather permitting. > I am surprised to hear your success at shooting in low > light. I would like to know the shutter speeds > involved. I feel confident if the shutter speed is 1/250s or faster. > I would also love an IS teleconverter in FA mount. > Let's all pester Pentax until they bring one to market. > Oh, and make it in an autofocus 1.4 XL teleconvertor > for long lenses. Absolutely! If anything, Pentax should make an FA-L 1,4X converter; that is an AF teleconverter dedicated to the FA* super telephotos. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S and More ?
Clover wrote: > It is not because you have it on the SLR that mean you need to use it all > time long ! > But, it makes crazy when you need it even once a year because for this day, > I find it is stupid to buy or rent an other SLR just for the need of a day. I don'æt agree. I'll rather be without features I use once a year. Features cost money or have other drawbacks like higher power consumption. I like features that are being used regularly and are useful and don't want to pay for seldomly used features. Nor do I want to carry dead weight; that is features that increases thei weight but seldomly or never used. > Of course it is ridiculous, but for a beginner, it is very important because > he wants to own a SLR that can give lots of features for the same price. You seem to forget that small size are features as well as any and that many of us have no interest in a feature count competition. The features you mention don't do anything for me getting better images. You also seem to forget that the extra 1,5 fps rate At a speed at 1/1000s you'll gain only 1,5/1000 of the action compared to the MZ-S. You'll still miss 996/1000 of the action with 4fps compared to the MZ-S 497,5/1000 - hardly a big difference. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Pre-cut mattes
Hi, can anybody tell me if museum-quality archival pre-cut mattes are available in 35mm proportions, please? And if so, perhaps the names of some suppliers, preferably in the UK, but the product name at least should help me find UK suppliers. Ideally these mattes would be on board with the same proportions as the hole in sizes such as 16x24" (40x60cm) and larger. tia, Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax CCD back desigh
Components list for Pentax CCD back -Pentax back LX and MX for me ... what else ??? -Power supply Linear tech has a cool 90% efficiency power supply for 2 x AA let's make it 4 AA with a hand pack ??? -Mass storage -CCD Ok guys start your search engine... I only found some sony and National small size sensors so far.. help me there. -LCD How about a color TFT ?? www.sharpmeg.com LQ038Q5DR01 3.8" 450nits 320x240 (4:3) Hey albano, can you make a survey =) CCD back interest ? How much of the frame is acceptable ? 50% 60 % 70% 80% 90% 100% ?? Camera Frame ? PZ-1, MZ-?, LX, MX, KX, ME, Program, Minium interesting resolution ? 1024x768 ? 1280x960 ? Price range ? Mass storage ? Compact flash, MMC, Smart Media (see www.sandisk.com) Anyone interested by doing a cheap version low res 1st and then make a 2nd run with high res when we get some experience ? I calculated my design costs to be around 12000$US for hardware and some 7000-9500$US for software... hardware sample (one unit) will chirp around 2000$US, I am ready to cut about 30% because it's more of a hobby than real work... as an incentive I can say that those who chip in for the design cost will have a return on other unit sold afterward ... production cost ... depends on the product selected... and I am waiting for some price quote from Sharp, Linear tech and couple of other folks... Phil > It is actually quite a bit behind the times. It has no features to > speak of, low resolution, requires external (proprietary) devices to > view/load/ download images, and is very expensive to boot. I'm afraid > that this project will be DOA. The only way that this could be viable is > if you could replace the entire camera back. This way, it might be able > to take advantage of some of the positives that digital photography > offers by incorporating an LCD screen. I used to think that the "digital > film" thing was a good idea until I used some real digital cameras. > > Isaac > > > > Nick > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. > > http://buzz.yahoo.com/ > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
BG-10 grip questions
For the ones who have been lucky enough to put their hands on one of those beasts: does the BG-10 also have a magnesium skin, like the MZ-S? And I would like to know too if it is possible to use the AA grip for the rest of the MZ line (Fg) with the MZ-S -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Penta Russian ?
This link is no more working ? http://www.penta-club.org/penta/ New link ? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
