RE: Galia and Boris PESO #14
Look out Boris, she's pretty good at this, and she'll be commandeering all your gear before too long. Good eye for such a youngster. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2009 10:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Galia and Boris PESO #14 Hi! From now on whenever opportunity permits, I shall publish photos that Galia made along with those of mine. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-014.html Please be brutal and honest. Thanks. Boris (and Galia) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: April PUG?
Looks like some nincompoop forgot to upload it again. It's online now. http://pug.komkon.org We could use a few more photos for May. On 4/28/09, Toralf Lund wrote: > Question is in the subject, really. I mean, will there be one? > > Just had to ask... > > - Toralf > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
April PUG?
Question is in the subject, really. I mean, will there be one? Just had to ask... - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K 7 D FFN
http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/Pentax%20K7%20ffn/ If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Badbury Clump
Wonderful capture - has an unreal feel to it. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" Subject: PESO - Badbury Clump Fourteen years ago, I accidentally came upon this place at the height of bluebell season. It is a beech wood on the site of an Iron Age hill fort, about 25 miles southwest of Oxford. I thought it was magical, and have been looking forward to getting back ever since. This past weekend we spent an hour there. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212&size=lg (K10D and DA 16-45) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - I'm Safe Now
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT - I'm Safe Now On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, AlunFoto wrote: Er.. I mean, Mark. Sorry. I'll go and blow my nose now. :-) Are you mocking the pig flu? Don't ever mock a pandemic! Don't ever miss an opportunity with a good crisis. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: shop's open...
Two good shots. The first is my favorite. Excellent composition and a feeling of mystery and solitude Good work. Paul On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:16 PM, Subash wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:55:51 -0300 Luiz Felipe wrote: Very interesting indeed! Liked the first a little more, can't say exactly why. http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329014586482455282 http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329016827149731602 thanks for looking Luiz. appreciated. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: shop's open...
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:55:51 -0300 Luiz Felipe wrote: > Very interesting indeed! Liked the first a little more, can't say > exactly why. > > http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329014586482455282 > > http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5329016827149731602 thanks for looking Luiz. appreciated. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: shop's open...
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:44:40 -0400 frank theriault wrote: > > http://jeyan.jalbum.net/PESO/slides/e2.html > In some ways I like this even more than the other one. There's a > mood, a sort of solemnity in his solitude, that I really like. > Beautiful use of light. thanks Frank, glad you got to see it and like it :) regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GFM plans
I have made airline reservations for GFM weekend. Flying into Charlotte about 1:40pm EDT on Thursday 28 May, flying back out at about 4:30pm EDT on Sunday. If there is anyone whose schedule approximates these times who would like to share a rental car, let me know... stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - I'm Safe Now
I thought you stopped seeing that pig... ;>] Cotty wrote: On 28/4/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm doing my part by visiting my little friend Maisy down on the farm only twice a week. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.6/2084 - Release Date: 04/28/09 06:15:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Airshow
Yeah, sorta figured that part out about 9 - 10 hours too late. :-( From: mike wilson Use shutter priority, then you can easily switch between 1/125 (works for most prop. planes) and faster for other aircraft. Shooting WWII aircraft. What's a good compromise shutter speed. I define "good" as sharp images of the airframe with a realistic blurring of the props? > Aperture priority didn't work out as well as I hoped, nor was the > mono-pod very effective - great for panning, but aggravating as heck for > overhead shots ... > > No way to use a tripod. If I'd set it up, some * would have knocked > it over. As it was, I was constantly being jostled by idiots. Idiots are best dealt with by a wildly swinging 600/4. I'll keep it in mind if I ever get a 600/4. The restraining line where I was standing was so close to the taxi-way, I couldn't even use my 300. Maybe 200 feet from where we were standing to the edge of the taxiway; 1200 feet to the centerline of the runway. 80mm wasn't wide enough to frame an entire aircraft when they were right in front of me. A 50 - 250 might have been better. It would have let me get tighter on some of the farther out shots, but wide enough when the aircraft were up close. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom White balance
Yes, auto wb. The difference is that with LR or full versions of CR used with PSCS, you can adjust an arbitrary number of similar photos with the same one click. I often color correct an entire shooot's photos by picking the right point in one and applying that to all the ones shot under the same light. Takes a half second. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Apr 28, 2009, at 6:17 PM, Nick Wright wrote: I'm assuming you mean Auto white balance and not ISO, right? In my version of iPhoto (one gen from the latest) the WB function is one of its strongest features. You can choose an eyedropper function to click a white or grey point. And you can also adjust temperature and tint. Exactly like the demo version of Photoshop I've been playing with. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The cameras' Auto ISO algorithms simply have a relatively limited range of adaptation/adjustment. It doesn't make much difference to me whether I spend a half second in Lightroom to color correct white balance, so that's a pretty small advantage. I don't think I've ever moved any of my cameras' settings from Auto ISO. If making the processing effort smaller by whatever increment is important to you, then I'm glad it's working well. However, I suspect it's more that iPhoto's adjustment tools are relatively primitive compared to ACR or Lightroom that is really making the difference. iPhoto isn't exactly a paragon of image processing applications, although used sensibly it can do a pretty nice job. I've simply found it too awkward to obtain the results I want when I try it. That's one of the tradeoffs of using no-cost software. Godfrey On Apr 28, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Nick Wright wrote: Not having to fiddle with it during processing is a huge functional advantage in my book. I know since it's captured in RAW the WB is not locked in, but it still shows up in the RAW converter at the setting I shot it. I could change it if I liked. But I really prefer to spend as little time as possible playing with my pictures in the computer. Also the colors of the photos I shot with the custom WB are "right" to me. I did not have to adjust the color at all. I adjusted the exposure and contrast in iPhoto but that was it. The photos that I did not set my WB required a lot of tweaking and I still don't like the way they look. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Boring Train Picture
- Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" Subject: Re: PESO: Boring Train Picture > > Wow! The letters pop out so strongly on the crop that it looks > oversharpened. > It's scary how little sharpening that got. A couple of hits of USM at .5 pixel/50% was all it got. I keep meaning to go out and do a comparison of the half dozen or so lenses i have in the range, but it keeps being winter here. I hate winter. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Badbury Clump
- Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" Subject: Re: PESO - Badbury Clump Rick, it has a 2D feel to it. Is this supposed to be a compliment? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom White balance
That's interesting about the white instead of grey reference. I just assumed that it could be either grey or white like the other brands'. But it does seemed to have worked fine. Yeah, I wasn't happy entirely with the noise. Most of those were shot at ISO3200. Especially the tighter shots where I was using the 135/3.5. Kept the aperture at 5.6 for a little DOF, gave me a shutter of 1/100th which turns out was just ever so slightly underexposed. If I had exposed better the noise wouldn't have been so bad. Also the way that iPhoto handles the cropping is not conducive to reducing noise. As far as noise reduction software is concerned, I've tried most of them and have never been happy at all with the results. But then I am the guy who likes to shoot faster film because I think grain is a nice feature. :) On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Yeah, I've used the Custom WB and it is pretty easy to use. BTW, the manual > informs you to use a plain white surface, like a sheet of paper, rather than > grey. Seems not to matter though, judging by your results. > > Great shots! I really like that leading one up the aisle toward the > presenter. > > I see a lot of noise in a few of them. You may want to invest in a noise > reduction app. ACR's noise reduction is pretty good for most cases, but for > really challenging cases (eg underexposed ISO 1600 or 3200 from the K100D) I > use the Imagenomic app/plugin. The key I find is to apply progressively > more NR to Darks and Shadows, and to be really conservative in the amount > applied. Over-applied, It's too easy to make people's skin look like > plastic. > > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Badbury Clump
Rick, That is magical. I'd like to see a big print of it. (25 years is a long time to wait for a picture...) Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > Fourteen years ago, I accidentally came upon this place at the height of > bluebell season. It is a beech wood on the site of an Iron Age hill fort, > about 25 miles southwest of Oxford. I thought it was magical, and have been > looking forward to getting back ever since. This past weekend we spent an > hour there. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212&size=lg > > (K10D and DA 16-45) > > Rick > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots
- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Re: Interesting DA 60-250mm test shots > > Send $1,500 within the next two weeks. Postal M.O. or Cashiers check. > Thanks for asking, Bill! > Have a nice day. :-) I'm pretty sure I have a Monopoly game around here someplace. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom White balance
I'm assuming you mean Auto white balance and not ISO, right? In my version of iPhoto (one gen from the latest) the WB function is one of its strongest features. You can choose an eyedropper function to click a white or grey point. And you can also adjust temperature and tint. Exactly like the demo version of Photoshop I've been playing with. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > The cameras' Auto ISO algorithms simply have a relatively limited range of > adaptation/adjustment. It doesn't make much difference to me whether I spend > a half second in Lightroom to color correct white balance, so that's a > pretty small advantage. I don't think I've ever moved any of my cameras' > settings from Auto ISO. > > If making the processing effort smaller by whatever increment is important > to you, then I'm glad it's working well. However, I suspect it's more that > iPhoto's adjustment tools are relatively primitive compared to ACR or > Lightroom that is really making the difference. iPhoto isn't exactly a > paragon of image processing applications, although used sensibly it can do a > pretty nice job. I've simply found it too awkward to obtain the results I > want when I try it. That's one of the tradeoffs of using no-cost software. > > Godfrey > > On Apr 28, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Nick Wright wrote: > >> Not having to fiddle with it during processing is a huge functional >> advantage in my book. >> >> I know since it's captured in RAW the WB is not locked in, but it >> still shows up in the RAW converter at the setting I shot it. I could >> change it if I liked. But I really prefer to spend as little time as >> possible playing with my pictures in the computer. >> >> Also the colors of the photos I shot with the custom WB are "right" to >> me. I did not have to adjust the color at all. I adjusted the exposure >> and contrast in iPhoto but that was it. The photos that I did not set >> my WB required a lot of tweaking and I still don't like the way they >> look. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Badbury Clump
Rick, it has a 2D feel to it. Great shot. Dave On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > Fourteen years ago, I accidentally came upon this place at the height of > bluebell season. It is a beech wood on the site of an Iron Age hill fort, > about 25 miles southwest of Oxford. I thought it was magical, and have been > looking forward to getting back ever since. This past weekend we spent an > hour there. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212&size=lg > > (K10D and DA 16-45) > > Rick > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Boring Train Picture
I like trains, so no train shot is boring.:-) Very sharp indeed. Dave On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:20 PM, William Robb wrote: > Really. It's a boring picture. > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/55traindetail.html > > > Handheld, f/9, 1/50 second. > > William Robb > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom White balance
Nick Wright wrote: I shot a presentation on the animals of Australia that was held at our public library last night. [...] The photos from the event are here: http://www.nickdavidwright.com/page40.html The lady with the parakeet was the first image shot after setting the custom WB, everything before was shot on auto and "fixed in post." I didn't have to tweak the colors of the images shot on custom at all. I love it. Yeah, I've used the Custom WB and it is pretty easy to use. BTW, the manual informs you to use a plain white surface, like a sheet of paper, rather than grey. Seems not to matter though, judging by your results. Great shots! I really like that leading one up the aisle toward the presenter. I see a lot of noise in a few of them. You may want to invest in a noise reduction app. ACR's noise reduction is pretty good for most cases, but for really challenging cases (eg underexposed ISO 1600 or 3200 from the K100D) I use the Imagenomic app/plugin. The key I find is to apply progressively more NR to Darks and Shadows, and to be really conservative in the amount applied. Over-applied, It's too easy to make people's skin look like plastic. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom White balance
They look good to moi.:-) Like the snake shot. Dave On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Nick Wright wrote: > I shot a presentation on the animals of Australia that was held at our > public library last night. > > I wasn't happy with the results from the auto white balance and after > a few frames I decided to set a custom white balance. > > And I'm really impressed. Pentax's custom white balance is so much > easier to set than Canon's. > > With Canon you shoot your reference shot. Then find the menu for > setting the custom balance, then find the reference image you shot and > select it. Then you select the custom white balance option. > > I had never read the manual on the Pentax white balance, so I just > selected custom WB from the WB menu. It asked if I wanted to shoot a > reference image, so I found a kid at the event with a light grey shirt > and took a picture. The camera asked if the image was okay and I hit > okay and that was that. > > The photos from the event are here: http://www.nickdavidwright.com/page40.html > > The lady with the parakeet was the first image shot after setting the > custom WB, everything before was shot on auto and "fixed in post." > > I didn't have to tweak the colors of the images shot on custom at all. > I love it. > > -- > ~Nick David Wright > http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Son's Photo's
Some wonderful shots in there Walter. Dave On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/31741...@n02/sets/72157613732310456/show/ > > My son, 26 yrs old, married last year, has taken up photography. He > had a very bad bike spill last year and has "retired" from the biking > routine. But he stays in touch with his friends by shooting pics of > them doing the risky stuff! > > He started out with a Canon but has switched to the K10D. I loaned him > my grip and the FE zoom. If you look at the link above I think you > will find some that show a lot of promise. I'm kinda proud! > > Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Albino Bluebells
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > Rick Womer wrote: >> >> There's a mutant in every crowd... > > you rang? > > >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069373 >> >> (K10D and DA 50-200) >> >> Rick > > ah... > > any way to see that bigger? It deserves it. Get a bigger monitor.?? Dave > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Albino Bluebells
Lovely Rick. You picked a great angle to shot it. Nice background Dave On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > There's a mutant in every crowd... > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069373 > > (K10D and DA 50-200) > > Rick > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Pano before the renovation
Toine, Both are interesting. The geometry in the 2nd gets a bit distorted (watch the chairs). Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Toine wrote: > Our university is building a new library. To be more precise an old > existing building will be renovated. I plan to shoot a series of > pano's during the 2 years of the rebuilding. > Today I started shooting the empty (old) building: > > http://www.repiuk.nl/images/pano2vr/pano_whal_28apr2009_1.html > > http://www.repiuk.nl/images/pano2vr/pano_whal_28apr2009r_6.html > > K20D DA10-17 +2,0,-2 bracketing. Warning the (Flash) files are large (4-5Mb). > > No lights inside and heavy overcast weather outside. What else to do > but shoot HDR. Maybe a little overdone what do you think? > > Toine > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anzac Day
In 2002 I visited Galipoli and was standing in the cemetary on the beach at Anzac Cove. I looked down and was stunned to see I was astride the tombstone of Leonard J. Lawlor an Australian, who fell April 25 1915, like so many, on the first day of that pointless episode in British imperialism. Bill Lawlor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or ?
That appears to be more intelligent guesswork than a spec leak. There's no specs on sensor/shutter or anything purely internal. Offhand I'd say it's entirely derived from the already-leaked pictures and 1-2 more (a rear picture and a shot with the 'WR' Kit lens he's claiming). -Adam On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Timbah! wrote: > Except the unofficial leak of specs @ RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: > http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/04/pentax-k-7-unofficially-announced.html > > .t > > Adam Maas wrote: >> >> Announcement is scheduled for May 20th or 21st. No new leaks have been >> reported. >> >> -Adam >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:00 PM, <27...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> Any more news on the new body and does anyone know the release >>> date...Thanks Joe >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Albino Bluebells
Rick Womer wrote: There's a mutant in every crowd... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069373 (K10D and DA 50-200) Rick Very nice indeed! -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom White balance
Some nice shots here. I like the two girls with the snake, and Kyle Petty with the lizard. Well he looks like Kyle Petty:-). Paul On Apr 28, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Nick Wright wrote: These were shot in RAW. Shooting in RAW does not negate the benefits of setting a custom white balance. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Nice gallery! Shoot RAW. You'll love it even more! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Nick Wright wrote: I shot a presentation on the animals of Australia that was held at our public library last night. I wasn't happy with the results from the auto white balance and after a few frames I decided to set a custom white balance. And I'm really impressed. Pentax's custom white balance is so much easier to set than Canon's. With Canon you shoot your reference shot. Then find the menu for setting the custom balance, then find the reference image you shot and select it. Then you select the custom white balance option. I had never read the manual on the Pentax white balance, so I just selected custom WB from the WB menu. It asked if I wanted to shoot a reference image, so I found a kid at the event with a light grey shirt and took a picture. The camera asked if the image was okay and I hit okay and that was that. The photos from the event are here: http://www.nickdavidwright.com/page40.html The lady with the parakeet was the first image shot after setting the custom WB, everything before was shot on auto and "fixed in post." I didn't have to tweak the colors of the images shot on custom at all. I love it. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - I'm Safe Now
Yes, my mother's philosophy, revealed to us with her grandchildren (our kids), was "They have to eat a pound of dirt before they die." Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: > Drove a public transportation city bus for 6 years, and only got the flu > once. Never got colds, or any of the other things the coughing hacking > disease ridden homeless tried to infect me with through their hands, > spittle, or money. I attribute that to the immunities developed not only > from the constant exposure, but to my mother's philosophy that a kid too > clean was gonna be a sick kid. Questions to her like "what do ants taste > like?" were met with "eat a few and tell me" (bitter). Same with dirt, dirty > things, etc.. Not that we were dirt-bag kids, just not concerned with > germs. > > Swine flu? Kiss a pig! Wash your hands? Before dinner, but not lunch. Dinner > we used linen, lunch was paper napkins. Linen had to last a week. > > > On Apr 28, 2009, at 15:08 , Nick Wright wrote: > >> My problem with those little bottles of hand sanitizer is that it only >> kills 99.9% of germs. >> >> The manufacturers tout this as a feature (they proclaim it right on >> the bottles), but I see it as a liability. >> >> Because that 0.1% of germs that survive to reproduce will logically be >> the strongest most horrible versions of the germ. >> >> It's natural selection speeded up many times. We destroy the weakest >> strains of the germ, and leave the strongest to continue spreading. >> >> And meanwhile our bodies never develop any kind of natural immunity. > > If it doesn’t excite you, > This thing that you see, > Why in the world, > Would it excite me? > —Jay Maisel > > Joseph McAllister > pentax...@mac.com > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or ?
Except the unofficial leak of specs @ RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/04/pentax-k-7-unofficially-announced.html .t Adam Maas wrote: Announcement is scheduled for May 20th or 21st. No new leaks have been reported. -Adam On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:00 PM, <27...@comcast.net> wrote: Any more news on the new body and does anyone know the release date...Thanks Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Albino Bluebells
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 01:27:00PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote: > > There's a mutant in every crowd... > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069373 > > (K10D and DA 50-200) > > Rick Indeed there is. Here's one I spotted the other day: http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/IMGP4179.jpg (K10D, DA* 16-50) Not as good as Rick's shot, though. But it does show an albino California Poppy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom White balance
The cameras' Auto ISO algorithms simply have a relatively limited range of adaptation/adjustment. It doesn't make much difference to me whether I spend a half second in Lightroom to color correct white balance, so that's a pretty small advantage. I don't think I've ever moved any of my cameras' settings from Auto ISO. If making the processing effort smaller by whatever increment is important to you, then I'm glad it's working well. However, I suspect it's more that iPhoto's adjustment tools are relatively primitive compared to ACR or Lightroom that is really making the difference. iPhoto isn't exactly a paragon of image processing applications, although used sensibly it can do a pretty nice job. I've simply found it too awkward to obtain the results I want when I try it. That's one of the tradeoffs of using no-cost software. Godfrey On Apr 28, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Nick Wright wrote: Not having to fiddle with it during processing is a huge functional advantage in my book. I know since it's captured in RAW the WB is not locked in, but it still shows up in the RAW converter at the setting I shot it. I could change it if I liked. But I really prefer to spend as little time as possible playing with my pictures in the computer. Also the colors of the photos I shot with the custom WB are "right" to me. I did not have to adjust the color at all. I adjusted the exposure and contrast in iPhoto but that was it. The photos that I did not set my WB required a lot of tweaking and I still don't like the way they look. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom White balance
Not having to fiddle with it during processing is a huge functional advantage in my book. I know since it's captured in RAW the WB is not locked in, but it still shows up in the RAW converter at the setting I shot it. I could change it if I liked. But I really prefer to spend as little time as possible playing with my pictures in the computer. Also the colors of the photos I shot with the custom WB are "right" to me. I did not have to adjust the color at all. I adjusted the exposure and contrast in iPhoto but that was it. The photos that I did not set my WB required a lot of tweaking and I still don't like the way they look. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Well, the RAW converters ... both Pentax and Adobe ... will follow the WB > setting to within their own ideas of camera calibration as defaults so I > guess it reduces adjustment a bit, that can be an advantage if you want to > minimize adjustments. But WB is applied at RAW conversion time .. there's no > functional advantage to setting it at capture time if you're processing RAW > images. > > Nice bunch of pictures. I saw them on flickr from your tweet last night. > > Godfrey > > On Apr 28, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Nick Wright wrote: > >> These were shot in RAW. >> >> Shooting in RAW does not negate the benefits of setting a custom white >> balance. >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >>> >>> Nice gallery! >>> >>> Shoot RAW. You'll love it even more! >>> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - I'm Safe Now
Soaps with anti-bacterial ingredients do nothing to stop viruses. Since most use a small trace of alcohol and many bacteria thrive on traces of alcohol, they aren't particularly effective against bacteria either. This told to me by my doctor at the height of the flu season last December. He suggested just keeping your hands clean did as well, and wearing a mask to help not spread any viruses to other people. Plain old Ivory soap and warm water do just as well as all these fancy soaps. Godfrey On Apr 28, 2009, at 1:43 PM, David J Brooks wrote: They gave us those hand cleaner thingies at the beginning of the school year. I have never had so many colds in one year as this season. I don't think they work to great:-0 Dave On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM, frank theriault wrote: I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been hearing about on the news. You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively little pamphlet entitled "Pandemic 101 - the practical way to prepare". Would I kid you about something this important? We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom White balance
Well, the RAW converters ... both Pentax and Adobe ... will follow the WB setting to within their own ideas of camera calibration as defaults so I guess it reduces adjustment a bit, that can be an advantage if you want to minimize adjustments. But WB is applied at RAW conversion time .. there's no functional advantage to setting it at capture time if you're processing RAW images. Nice bunch of pictures. I saw them on flickr from your tweet last night. Godfrey On Apr 28, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Nick Wright wrote: These were shot in RAW. Shooting in RAW does not negate the benefits of setting a custom white balance. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Nice gallery! Shoot RAW. You'll love it even more! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Flickr 3 in 1 :D
Looks about on par with a half a dozen other over-processed photos I've seen on flickr... not my thing. G On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Timbah! wrote: Hi list, On Flickr people like 3 type of pictures: Made with Wideangle Urban Acid 'toning' HDR So I've made all of them in one picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3484020482/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or ?
Announcement is scheduled for May 20th or 21st. No new leaks have been reported. -Adam On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:00 PM, <27...@comcast.net> wrote: > Any more news on the new body and does anyone know the release date...Thanks > Joe > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K7 or ?
Any more news on the new body and does anyone know the release date...Thanks Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - I'm Safe Now
Drove a public transportation city bus for 6 years, and only got the flu once. Never got colds, or any of the other things the coughing hacking disease ridden homeless tried to infect me with through their hands, spittle, or money. I attribute that to the immunities developed not only from the constant exposure, but to my mother's philosophy that a kid too clean was gonna be a sick kid. Questions to her like "what do ants taste like?" were met with "eat a few and tell me" (bitter). Same with dirt, dirty things, etc.. Not that we were dirt-bag kids, just not concerned with germs. Swine flu? Kiss a pig! Wash your hands? Before dinner, but not lunch. Dinner we used linen, lunch was paper napkins. Linen had to last a week. On Apr 28, 2009, at 15:08 , Nick Wright wrote: My problem with those little bottles of hand sanitizer is that it only kills 99.9% of germs. The manufacturers tout this as a feature (they proclaim it right on the bottles), but I see it as a liability. Because that 0.1% of germs that survive to reproduce will logically be the strongest most horrible versions of the germ. It's natural selection speeded up many times. We destroy the weakest strains of the germ, and leave the strongest to continue spreading. And meanwhile our bodies never develop any kind of natural immunity. If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bubbles
Thanks Marnie. And thanks to all who had a look. Paul On Apr 28, 2009, at 6:11 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/26/2009 2:42:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: Click to make it smaller. K20D, DA* 50-135, f4 @ 1/4000th, ISO 200, 123mm focal length, 540 flash in high-speed synch mode. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9053471&size=lg = That is very nice, Paul. Definitely among one of your ton ten Grace photos. Has a timelessness to it. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621499x1201450105/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx ?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Apr ilExcScore428NO62) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - I'm Safe Now
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 05:08:57PM -0500, Nick Wright scripsit: > My problem with those little bottles of hand sanitizer is that it only > kills 99.9% of germs. > > The manufacturers tout this as a feature (they proclaim it right on > the bottles), but I see it as a liability. > > Because that 0.1% of germs that survive to reproduce will logically be > the strongest most horrible versions of the germ. Nope. Generally, they'll be the germs that got the least amount of exposure to the alcohol. It says nothing about how virulent they are. Generally you *want* to make the selection about surviving nasty chemicals rather than being an efficient parasite of humans. The bug that learnt how to metabolize chlorine bleach is scary to think about, but it now *needs* chlorine bleach, and there is (I hope!) none inside you. > It's natural selection speeded up many times. We destroy the weakest > strains of the germ, and leave the strongest to continue spreading. A billion years of yeast hasn't found one that can cope with more than about 25% ethanol. I'm not worried we're going to produce something that can shrug alcohol (or put all the distillers out of work by making 90 proof wine) and what you're really doing by washing your hands is reducing the odds of systemic infection. > And meanwhile our bodies never develop any kind of natural immunity. Sure they do. It just doesn't get overwhelmed. All killing 99.9% of the germs on your hands does is multiply the default risk of systemic infection by 0.01 (because it's really going to be 99% unless you're emulating the lab conditions of the test; mind you got all of both thumbs...); if that risk is a chance of 0.1 out of 1 per exposure (one handshake, one nearby sneeze, etc.) it becomes 0.001. If you're exposed 10 times at the 0.1 chance that's (0.9)^10 = 0.35 that you *won't* get it. (Which is two chances in three that you _will_.) If you're exposed 10 times at the 0.001 chance that's (0.999)^10 = 0.99 that you *won't* get it. (One chance in a hundred that you _will_.) Since people constantly touch their faces and get what's on their hands into the mucous membranes (eyes, nose, mouth) that way, this is very much worth doing with respect to contagious diseases. Alcohol sanitizers are preferred for cases where there's no obvious soiling; it's easier on your skin and works just as well. Mind you get both thumbs. -- Graydon, who will admit to a bit of a bee in his bonnet about this. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Albino Bluebells
Rick Womer wrote: There's a mutant in every crowd... you rang? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069373 (K10D and DA 50-200) Rick ah... any way to see that bigger? It deserves it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bubbles
In a message dated 4/26/2009 2:42:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: Click to make it smaller. K20D, DA* 50-135, f4 @ 1/4000th, ISO 200, 123mm focal length, 540 flash in high-speed synch mode. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9053471&size=lg = That is very nice, Paul. Definitely among one of your ton ten Grace photos. Has a timelessness to it. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621499x1201450105/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Apr ilExcScore428NO62) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - I'm Safe Now
My problem with those little bottles of hand sanitizer is that it only kills 99.9% of germs. The manufacturers tout this as a feature (they proclaim it right on the bottles), but I see it as a liability. Because that 0.1% of germs that survive to reproduce will logically be the strongest most horrible versions of the germ. It's natural selection speeded up many times. We destroy the weakest strains of the germ, and leave the strongest to continue spreading. And meanwhile our bodies never develop any kind of natural immunity. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > They gave us those hand cleaner thingies at the beginning of the > school year. I have never had so many colds in one year as this > season. I don't think they work to great:-0 > > Dave > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM, frank theriault > wrote: >> I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been >> hearing about on the news. >> >> You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. >> >> One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively >> little pamphlet entitled "Pandemic 101 - the practical way to >> prepare". Would I kid you about something this important? >> >> We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're >> supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and >> regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: >> >> http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp >> >> Thank God we're being pro-active about this. >> >> cheers, >> frank >> >> -- >> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eye Contact
In a message dated 4/27/2009 7:12:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: The title just doesn't feel right to me, but I can't think of anything better. Feel free to suggest something more workable. And feel free to comment on the photo: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/eye-contact.html thanks, frank Very, very nice, frank. "Budding Romance"? Looks like that to me. Marnie aka Doe - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621499x1201450105/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Apr ilExcScore428NO62) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom White balance
These were shot in RAW. Shooting in RAW does not negate the benefits of setting a custom white balance. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > Nice gallery! > > Shoot RAW. You'll love it even more! > > Rick > > http://photo.net/photos/RickW > > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Nick Wright wrote: > >> I shot a presentation on the animals of Australia that was >> held at our >> public library last night. >> >> I wasn't happy with the results from the auto white >> balance and after >> a few frames I decided to set a custom white balance. >> >> And I'm really impressed. Pentax's custom white >> balance is so much >> easier to set than Canon's. >> >> With Canon you shoot your reference shot. Then find the >> menu for >> setting the custom balance, then find the reference image >> you shot and >> select it. Then you select the custom white balance option. >> >> I had never read the manual on the Pentax white balance, so >> I just >> selected custom WB from the WB menu. It asked if I wanted >> to shoot a >> reference image, so I found a kid at the event with a light >> grey shirt >> and took a picture. The camera asked if the image was okay >> and I hit >> okay and that was that. >> >> The photos from the event are here: >> http://www.nickdavidwright.com/page40.html >> >> The lady with the parakeet was the first image shot after >> setting the >> custom WB, everything before was shot on auto and >> "fixed in post." >> >> I didn't have to tweak the colors of the images shot on >> custom at all. >> I love it. >> >> -- >> ~Nick David Wright >> http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Son's Photo's
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > Excellent! Too bad one can't shoot action with Pentax cameras... lmao!! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Son's Photo's
Excellent! Too bad one can't shoot action with Pentax cameras... Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Walter Hamler wrote: > From: Walter Hamler > Subject: My Son's Photo's > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 10:04 AM > http://www.flickr.com/photos/31741...@n02/sets/72157613732310456/show/ > > My son, 26 yrs old, married last year, has taken up > photography. He > had a very bad bike spill last year and has > "retired" from the biking > routine. But he stays in touch with his friends by shooting > pics of > them doing the risky stuff! > > He started out with a Canon but has switched to the K10D. I > loaned him > my grip and the FE zoom. If you look at the link above I > think you > will find some that show a lot of promise. I'm kinda > proud! > > Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Boring Train Picture
Wow! The letters pop out so strongly on the crop that it looks oversharpened. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 4/26/09, William Robb wrote: > From: William Robb > Subject: PESO: Boring Train Picture > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 7:20 PM > Really. It's a boring picture. > After more than 25 years at the same address, I discovered > that there is a > rail marshalling yard about 6 blocks from my home. > Anyway, I was out for a walk with the wife and kids and lo > and behold, we > found trains. > I had the K20 and the 55/1.4 with me, so I shot this. > The image below is a 100% portion of the image that kind of > shows off how > sharp this lens is. I suspect a tripod would have helped a > bit. > > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/55traindetail.html > > > Handheld, f/9, 1/50 second. > > William Robb > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Albino Bluebells
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Bob W wrote: > > Fascinating, and beautifully composed. Yes! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Badbury Clump
> > Fourteen years ago, I accidentally came upon this place at > > the height of bluebell season. It is a beech wood on the > > site of an Iron Age hill fort, about 25 miles southwest of > > Oxford. I thought it was magical, and have been looking > > forward to getting back ever since. This past weekend we > > spent an hour there. > > > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212&size=lg > > > > (K10D and DA 16-45) > > > > Rick > > This has taught me 2 new things. I've never before heard of > Badbury Clump, > but with bluebells like that I would like to go there. > Second, I always > thought one of my favourite photos, by Bill Brandt, was of Badbury > something, maybe Badbury Rings in Dorset. But a search for > the picture shows > I was wrong: > http://www.vam.ac.uk/images/image/5037-popup.html > > Bob > I've investigate a bit more and have learnt that Badbury Clump is a local name for Badbury Hill, which of course I have heard of - it is very well known. ...and close to the unbelievably-named village of Great Coxwell. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Badbury Clump
Thanks, Cotty! It's on the road from Faringdon to Highworth (B4019), a couple of miles outside Faringdon. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Cotty wrote: > > > >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212&size=lg > > > Well done Rick, excellent shot. > > There's a few woods with this stuff - was this around > Henley? > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Badbury Clump
> Fourteen years ago, I accidentally came upon this place at > the height of bluebell season. It is a beech wood on the > site of an Iron Age hill fort, about 25 miles southwest of > Oxford. I thought it was magical, and have been looking > forward to getting back ever since. This past weekend we > spent an hour there. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212&size=lg > > (K10D and DA 16-45) > > Rick This has taught me 2 new things. I've never before heard of Badbury Clump, but with bluebells like that I would like to go there. Second, I always thought one of my favourite photos, by Bill Brandt, was of Badbury something, maybe Badbury Rings in Dorset. But a search for the picture shows I was wrong: http://www.vam.ac.uk/images/image/5037-popup.html Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Professionalism
http://photo.net/photos/RickW Oh, I don't know... "I shot this at ISO 400 with a two-stop grey grad and a polarizer on my 35/2 DA macro, f/8 @ 1/125; took the PEF into LR, adjusted the WB and used the curves to bring out the midtones before exporting as a JPG." What's not to understand? Rick --- On Sun, 4/26/09, steve harley wrote: >... on the whole > photography is much more concrete, so while the terminology > may still "serve to exclude", it is far less > abstruse than the mathematics/computer science example above > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Albino Bluebells
> > > There's a mutant in every crowd... > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069373 > > (K10D and DA 50-200) > > Rick > Fascinating, and beautifully composed. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Badbury Clump
> > Fourteen years ago, I accidentally came upon this place at > the height of bluebell season. It is a beech wood on the > site of an Iron Age hill fort, about 25 miles southwest of > Oxford. I thought it was magical, and have been looking > forward to getting back ever since. This past weekend we > spent an hour there. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212&size=lg > > (K10D and DA 16-45) > > Rick That's beautiful - I've never seen a bluebell wood like that. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Badbury Clump
On 28/4/09, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: > >Fourteen years ago, I accidentally came upon this place at the height of >bluebell season. It is a beech wood on the site of an Iron Age hill >fort, about 25 miles southwest of Oxford. I thought it was magical, and >have been looking forward to getting back ever since. This past weekend >we spent an hour there. > >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212&size=lg Well done Rick, excellent shot. There's a few woods with this stuff - was this around Henley? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Oxford PDML 14 June!
On 28/4/09, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: > >It seems that June works for more people than May does. Ten days after >the PDML gathering, I'm heading back to the former colonies (32C in >Philly today--yuck!), so this is my last chance! > >Please contact me off-list if you can come. I'll make every effort. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - I'm Safe Now
On 28/4/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: >I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been >hearing about on the news. > >You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. > >One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively >little pamphlet entitled "Pandemic 101 - the practical way to >prepare". Would I kid you about something this important? > >We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're >supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and >regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: > >http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp > >Thank God we're being pro-active about this. I'm doing my part by visiting my little friend Maisy down on the farm only twice a week. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM favour
Joseph McAllister wrote: I figure Mark or Doug probably have a legit address I could get this to tomorrow, or Thursday if they don't take off before then. Sign me up and I'm ready to go! What can I do for you? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Badbury Clump
Magical it is. The trees are floating in a blue sea. Lovely! Toine 2009/4/28 Rick Womer : > > Fourteen years ago, I accidentally came upon this place at the height of > bluebell season. It is a beech wood on the site of an Iron Age hill fort, > about 25 miles southwest of Oxford. I thought it was magical, and have been > looking forward to getting back ever since. This past weekend we spent an > hour there. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212&size=lg > > (K10D and DA 16-45) > > Rick > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - I'm Safe Now
Bob W wrote: I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been hearing about on the news. You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively little pamphlet entitled "Pandemic 101 - the practical way to prepare". Would I kid you about something this important? We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp Thank God we're being pro-active about this. cheers, frank and, of course, it could get a lot worse. If the pig flu virus recombines with the bird flu virus we could end up with flying pig flu. Isn't "Swine Flu" just the past tense of "flying pig"? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - I'm Safe Now
They gave us those hand cleaner thingies at the beginning of the school year. I have never had so many colds in one year as this season. I don't think they work to great:-0 Dave On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM, frank theriault wrote: > I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been > hearing about on the news. > > You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. > > One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively > little pamphlet entitled "Pandemic 101 - the practical way to > prepare". Would I kid you about something this important? > > We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're > supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and > regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: > > http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp > > Thank God we're being pro-active about this. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - I'm Safe Now
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, AlunFoto wrote: > Er.. I mean, Mark. > Sorry. > I'll go and blow my nose now. > :-) Are you mocking the pig flu? Don't ever mock a pandemic! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Damselfly
..as for the rest it was purely serendipitous. I assumed as much & only mentioned it as another thing to keep in mind at the next such opportunity. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "John Whittingham" Subject: RE: Damselfly Hi Ken Thanks for the comments, I could do something about the proximity of the wing to the edge, as for the rest it was purely serendipitous. Best regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ken Waller [kwal...@peoplepc.com] Sent: 27 April 2009 22:17 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Damselfly Nice subect, exposure & focus but I find the composition a bit of a concern - the proximity of the wing to the LH edge (needs more space to the edge) & the unfortunate intersection of the tail with the end of the branch. Nice job of getting flat to most of the fly. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "John Whittingham" Subject: PESO: Damselfly Waiting in a hide Sunday afternoon in the hope that a Kingfisher or Heron would make an appearence, when this little critter appeared on a branch in front of me. I had the Tamron 90 with me but decided I may miss the opportunity if I went for a lens change, besides 90mm would have been a little short. It was quite breezy and the branch was moving quite a bit, this was the best of several exposures. Pentax K20D Pentax DA*300/4 @ f/4, 1/500th sec. ISO 400. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236 Large: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9059236&size=lg Comments & critique always welcome. Best regards, John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Albino Bluebells
There's a mutant in every crowd... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069373 (K10D and DA 50-200) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - I'm Safe Now
Er.. I mean, Mark. Sorry. I'll go and blow my nose now. :-) Jostein 2009/4/28 AlunFoto : > 2009/4/28 Bob W : >> and, of course, it could get a lot worse. If the pig flu virus recombines >> with the bird flu virus we could end up with flying pig flu. > > Oink! > > Jostein > > -- > http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ > http://alunfoto.blogspot.com > -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - I'm Safe Now
2009/4/28 Bob W : > and, of course, it could get a lot worse. If the pig flu virus recombines > with the bird flu virus we could end up with flying pig flu. Oink! Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Galia and Boris PESO #14
Boris, I love the leaves in your Alone shot. They are so lumenous. The single blossom is a nice touch. I liked Galia's water lilly. It's a pleasing composition. If she could use a little slower shutter speed, she might be able to get the blossom and leaf behind it in sharper focus. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Hi! > > From now on whenever opportunity permits, I shall publish photos that Galia > made along with those of mine. > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-014.html > > Please be brutal and honest. > > Thanks. > > Boris (and Galia) > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Custom White balance
Nice gallery! Shoot RAW. You'll love it even more! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Nick Wright wrote: > I shot a presentation on the animals of Australia that was > held at our > public library last night. > > I wasn't happy with the results from the auto white > balance and after > a few frames I decided to set a custom white balance. > > And I'm really impressed. Pentax's custom white > balance is so much > easier to set than Canon's. > > With Canon you shoot your reference shot. Then find the > menu for > setting the custom balance, then find the reference image > you shot and > select it. Then you select the custom white balance option. > > I had never read the manual on the Pentax white balance, so > I just > selected custom WB from the WB menu. It asked if I wanted > to shoot a > reference image, so I found a kid at the event with a light > grey shirt > and took a picture. The camera asked if the image was okay > and I hit > okay and that was that. > > The photos from the event are here: > http://www.nickdavidwright.com/page40.html > > The lady with the parakeet was the first image shot after > setting the > custom WB, everything before was shot on auto and > "fixed in post." > > I didn't have to tweak the colors of the images shot on > custom at all. > I love it. > > -- > ~Nick David Wright > http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Pano before the renovation
Our university is building a new library. To be more precise an old existing building will be renovated. I plan to shoot a series of pano's during the 2 years of the rebuilding. Today I started shooting the empty (old) building: http://www.repiuk.nl/images/pano2vr/pano_whal_28apr2009_1.html http://www.repiuk.nl/images/pano2vr/pano_whal_28apr2009r_6.html K20D DA10-17 +2,0,-2 bracketing. Warning the (Flash) files are large (4-5Mb). No lights inside and heavy overcast weather outside. What else to do but shoot HDR. Maybe a little overdone what do you think? Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Oxford PDML 14 June!
It seems that June works for more people than May does. Ten days after the PDML gathering, I'm heading back to the former colonies (32C in Philly today--yuck!), so this is my last chance! Please contact me off-list if you can come. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Badbury Clump
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > Fourteen years ago, I accidentally came upon this place at the height of > bluebell season. It is a beech wood on the site of an Iron Age hill fort, > about 25 miles southwest of Oxford. I thought it was magical, and have been > looking forward to getting back ever since. This past weekend we spent an > hour there. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212&size=lg > > (K10D and DA 16-45) > That is beautiful! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Badbury Clump
Fourteen years ago, I accidentally came upon this place at the height of bluebell season. It is a beech wood on the site of an Iron Age hill fort, about 25 miles southwest of Oxford. I thought it was magical, and have been looking forward to getting back ever since. This past weekend we spent an hour there. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9069212&size=lg (K10D and DA 16-45) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Criticism
I think she just knocked a front tooth out with her class! On Apr 28, 2009, at 09:58 , Timbah! wrote: I think her beer was warm :) http://15kb.blogspot.com/2009/04/blog-post.html Was made on the Holland day on Trafalgar Square. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - I'm Safe Now
> I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been > hearing about on the news. > > You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. > > One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively > little pamphlet entitled "Pandemic 101 - the practical way to > prepare". Would I kid you about something this important? > > We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're > supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and > regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: > > http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp > > Thank God we're being pro-active about this. > > cheers, > frank and, of course, it could get a lot worse. If the pig flu virus recombines with the bird flu virus we could end up with flying pig flu. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - I'm Safe Now
> > I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been > hearing about on the news. > > You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. > > One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively > little pamphlet entitled "Pandemic 101 - the practical way to > prepare". Would I kid you about something this important? > > We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're > supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and > regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: > > http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp > > Thank God we're being pro-active about this. > > cheers, > frank > We learnt our lesson in the Foot & Mouth outbreak of 2001: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Custom White balance
I shot a presentation on the animals of Australia that was held at our public library last night. I wasn't happy with the results from the auto white balance and after a few frames I decided to set a custom white balance. And I'm really impressed. Pentax's custom white balance is so much easier to set than Canon's. With Canon you shoot your reference shot. Then find the menu for setting the custom balance, then find the reference image you shot and select it. Then you select the custom white balance option. I had never read the manual on the Pentax white balance, so I just selected custom WB from the WB menu. It asked if I wanted to shoot a reference image, so I found a kid at the event with a light grey shirt and took a picture. The camera asked if the image was okay and I hit okay and that was that. The photos from the event are here: http://www.nickdavidwright.com/page40.html The lady with the parakeet was the first image shot after setting the custom WB, everything before was shot on auto and "fixed in post." I didn't have to tweak the colors of the images shot on custom at all. I love it. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Criticism
On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:58, Timbah! wrote: I think her beer was warm :) http://15kb.blogspot.com/2009/04/blog-post.html Was made on the Holland day on Trafalgar Square. Amusing shot. Seems a little bit dark, though. Perhaps the effect is intentional? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2009 - Douce France Irregulars - GDG
Godfrey, The two middle pix in the bottom row look the same. Things load rather slowly for me (MBP and Safari). I don't care whether you post Pentax pix or not, just as long as you post pix. (Sooner or later Pentax will win you back!) That is an interesting-looking group, and those breakfasts must be something to look forward to! Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > Subject: GESO 2009 - Douce France Irregulars - GDG > To: "PDML List" , "SeePhoto Talk" , > "PAW Picture-A-Week project" > Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 11:16 AM > I have breakfast with friends every Thursday morning at a > favorite cafe in Palo Alto. This past Thursday the camera > came out while we were goofing around ... > > http://www.gdgphoto.com/dfirregulars/ > > All photos with Olympus E-1 fitted with Panasonic/Leica > 14-50/2.8-3.5 ASPH OIS. > > This gallery is a prototype of a new gallery template that > I plan to use for my photo website. It is implemented with > SimpleViewer, a lightweight flash-based implementation to > allow scaling for different screen sizes and simple > transitions. For those who don't have flash installed, > there is an embedded fallback with a link to an HTML gallery > instead. I'll be interested to hear comments on the > gallery implementation. > > Your comments are always appreciated. > > Godfrey > --- > www.gdgphoto.com > www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/collections > www.twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eye Contact
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Bob W wrote: > Don't be too sure. The first time I drove on a French autoroute I spent a > lot of time looking on the map for Péage. That'll take a toll on you... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Eye Contact
> Bob W wrote: > > That's why it is so good to learn foreign languages. It's > not just so you > > can order a beer and chat up girls. It's also a great > pleasure to be able to > > read the literature. > > > > Bob > > and you don't end up spending all day trying to find > "einbahnstrasse" on > the map. > Don't be too sure. The first time I drove on a French autoroute I spent a lot of time looking on the map for Péage. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM favour
On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:08 , Doug Brewer wrote: mike wilson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for someone to receive a parcel from another lister in the US and bring it to GFM, to be handed to our favourite TV cameraman for export to the UK. Small (trouser pocketableish) parcel, containing nothing that will get you waterboarded or tasered (unless you meet up with the film police) as at 28/04/2009. Please contact Joe McAllister (I just know I've spelled that wrongly...) directly if you are willing. Many thanks in anticipation. Name spelled correctly. The package is ready to be shipped, and I received the funds, thank you. Isn't Joe coming to GFM? No, Joe announced a month ago that he would have to miss out on this years gathering. Funds too drained at this time. I figure Mark or Doug probably have a legit address I could get this to tomorrow, or Thursday if they don't take off before then. Guys? Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - I'm Safe Now
I was getting quite worried about this pig flu thing that I've been hearing about on the news. You'll all now be pleased to know that I'm now safe. One of my bosses just walked into my office and handed me a lively little pamphlet entitled "Pandemic 101 - the practical way to prepare". Would I kid you about something this important? We're going to be getting bottles of hand disinfectant that we're supposed to use religiously, and we're supposed to bookmark and regularly check Pandemic 101's News Network: http://www.pandemic101.com/library/news.asp Thank God we're being pro-active about this. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eye Contact
frank theriault wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Is that the place where you go to pick up girls? Any place Doug goes is a place to go pick up girls... not once I get there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Flickr 3 in 1 :D
Bruce Walker wrote: So you have. Very clever, but it makes my eyes bleed. :-) -bmw I made it this way because it's my 'last' flickr photo for a while :) From a bit different view, different post process (Urban Acid only :D) at my picture blog: http://15kb.blogspot.com/2009/04/portsmouth.html Hope it doesn't hurts your eyes _that_ much :D Regards, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eye Contact
Mark Roberts wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: Bob W wrote: That's why it is so good to learn foreign languages. It's not just so you can order a beer and chat up girls. It's also a great pleasure to be able to read the literature. and you don't end up spending all day trying to find "einbahnstrasse" on the map. Is that the place where you go to pick up girls? well, it is one way... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Flickr 3 in 1 :D
Think I'll gouge out my eye now! ;D Jack --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Timbah! wrote: > From: Timbah! > Subject: PESO: Flickr 3 in 1 :D > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 11:26 AM > Hi list, > > On Flickr people like 3 type of pictures: > Made with Wideangle > Urban Acid 'toning' > HDR > > So I've made all of them in one picture: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3484020482/ > > :D > > Regards, > .timber > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eye Contact
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > and you don't end up spending all day trying to find "einbahnstrasse" on the > map. That would be a waste of time. A quick Google Images search shows that there are many helpful signs, complete with arrows, to point you to Einbahnstrasse. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eye Contact
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Is that the place where you go to pick up girls? Any place Doug goes is a place to go pick up girls... ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eye Contact
Doug Brewer wrote: Bob W wrote: That's why it is so good to learn foreign languages. It's not just so you can order a beer and chat up girls. It's also a great pleasure to be able to read the literature. and you don't end up spending all day trying to find "einbahnstrasse" on the map. Is that the place where you go to pick up girls? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Flickr 3 in 1 :D
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Timbah! wrote: > Urban Acid is a Photoshop action (or a Lightroom template) that makes the > photo this blue-greenish color and a bit 'washed'. > HDR stands for High Dynamic Range, which means the photo is made from more > than exposures (+2EV, 0, -2EV in this case). To be viewable on our monitors > (which are 8 bit while HDR is 32 bit / channel) there is a technique called > Tone Mapping. So while it's called HDR picture is just a Tone Mapped 'Normal > Dynamic Range' picture :) HDRs are mostly viewed in special programs that > can dynamically change the 'gamma' of the picture. Thanks. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Flickr 3 in 1 :D
Urban Acid is a Photoshop action (or a Lightroom template) that makes the photo this blue-greenish color and a bit 'washed'. HDR stands for High Dynamic Range, which means the photo is made from more than exposures (+2EV, 0, -2EV in this case). To be viewable on our monitors (which are 8 bit while HDR is 32 bit / channel) there is a technique called Tone Mapping. So while it's called HDR picture is just a Tone Mapped 'Normal Dynamic Range' picture :) HDRs are mostly viewed in special programs that can dynamically change the 'gamma' of the picture. Regards, .t frank theriault wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Timbah! wrote: Hi list, On Flickr people like 3 type of pictures: Made with Wideangle Urban Acid 'toning' HDR So I've made all of them in one picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3484020482/ What's Urban Acid and HDR mean? I like the photo, btw. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Canary Wharf
Yes, it's the same place. In fact, Cotty did not know about the foot tunnel until this weekend, and know you've posted a photo of the entrance. This is the Cutty Sark pub, which you may recognise: http://www.web-options.com/Greenwich/content/_C086771_large.html When you took that picture you must have been standing in about the same place I was when I took this, in another direction: http://www.web-options.com/Greenwich/content/L1030025_large.html Here's another view of Canary Wharf: http://www.web-options.com/Greenwich/content/_C086761_large.html Bob > Hmm... > The Cutty Sark pub? I think I recall where it is. I've been to one pub > in that area, The Yacht, IIRC. Must have been about 2001 or 2002. > Last time I stayed down in Greenwich was when I took this shot: > http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SfLWXA8NM0I/Ago/ > lCWBkjIK4Qg/s1600-h/IMGP1098_redo2009A4.jpg > > In Sept. 2004. The contours of the buildings match pretty well... :-) > > Funny thing, I posted the above image in my blog on the 25. Unaware of > your post... :-) > > Jostein > > 2009/4/28 Bob W : > > It's outside the Cutty Sark, downstream about 100m from the > Trafalgar and > > the Yacht, where I know you've been. > > > > Bob > >> > >> Cute. > >> For a moment I thought I knew which pub it was. > >> But then again... > >> There are so many... > >> Jostein > >> > >> 2009/4/26 Bob W : > >> > Cotty has been over here yesterday and today, shooting some > >> footage of the > >> > London Marathon - more of that later. I took this picture > >> of Canary Wharf > >> > last night while we were having a pint at my local: > >> > http://www.web-options.com/L152.jpg > >> > > >> > Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Eye Contact
Bob W wrote: That's why it is so good to learn foreign languages. It's not just so you can order a beer and chat up girls. It's also a great pleasure to be able to read the literature. Bob and you don't end up spending all day trying to find "einbahnstrasse" on the map. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Eye Contact
That's why it is so good to learn foreign languages. It's not just so you can order a beer and chat up girls. It's also a great pleasure to be able to read the literature. Bob > > ...getting pedantry (I'm taking your word as proof that word actually > exists, and has nothing to do with crime) further away, there > is no way > to properly translate some ideas. The "map" changes as you change the > language, to quote some sci-fi author. Meaning the ideas > often can't be > properly described when you change the language used by the > author. You > end up with a different product. > > Stepping to english from portuguese I lose lots of > information carried > by small details. I may adequately offer you in portuguese some > information in say, four words. I could need three times the > number of > english words to pass just part of the idea, but losing for sure the > unique sense given in portuguese by those four words. Same in > the return > - english offers subtle notions we just can't properly bring to > portuguese, no matter how we try. And those languages use the same > signs... add specific letters or ideograms! > > LF > > frank theriault escreveu: > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Bob W wrote: > > > >> On a point of pedantry, 'The Stranger' is not a literal > translation, and > >> conveys nothing of what the novel is about. 'Outsider' is > a much better > >> translation. > > > > I had a professor who spent the better part of two classes > telling us > > why The Outsider is the ~only~ proper translation for the > title of the > > novel. > > > > cheers, > > frank > > > > -- > Luiz Felipe > luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br > http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Eye Contact
> > > On a point of pedantry, 'The Stranger' is not a literal > translation, and > > conveys nothing of what the novel is about. 'Outsider' is a > much better > > translation. > > I had a professor who spent the better part of two classes telling us > why The Outsider is the ~only~ proper translation for the title of the > novel. > > cheers, > frank > What a clever professor, to agree with me! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
