Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread David Mann
On Mar 14, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Tanya Love wrote:

> They make not bad Hot Chocolate too, so long as you ask for half-strength,
> otherwise, you get to the bottom of the cup and it is as though you are
> drinking mud!

I've only found three really good hot chocolates so far.

#3 was at the Lindt chocolate café in Sydney, they bring you a small jug of 
melted chocolate and a larger jug of steamed milk.  Mix to your liking.

#2 is a wonderful European-style hot chocolate blend that's made by a 
specialist retailer here.  It's made VERY strong, feels like you're drinking 
butter but you don't make a lot (think of it as a chocolate espresso).  I must 
get another pack in time for winter.

#1 is available at a small café close to Te Papa in Wellington - a rare treat 
for me and it's just as well.  Just chocolate and milk, but they use Schoc 
chocolate instead.  The flavours sound a bit weird but they're 
knock-your-socks-off good.  Last time I was there I had an orange & cardamom 
white.  I wanted that thing to last forever.  The tangerine dark is pretty good 
too.

Dave (not a coffee drinker)
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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:35 +0800, "David Savage" 
wrote:
> I kid you not, I like Vegemite & a lot of it.
> 
> It's the whole, pleasure & pain thing.
> 
> :-)



I'm with Dave on this.  Thickly spread on a crumpet for breakfast washed
down with black coffee while reading the PDML...

Bliss!


Cheers

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> 
> 
> On 14 March 2010 10:10, Tanya Love  wrote:
> > You can't be serious Dave?!?
> >
> > That is why Americans get that "face" when they first try it - because they
> > spread it on thick like Peanut Butter and take a huge bite - enough to curl
> > anyones toes!
> >
> > Mind you, as a born and bred Vegemite eater from birth, I recently graduated
> > to being able to lick the knife when there is a big lump of it left there
> > after making my kids school lunches.  Phew! Toe curling alright, but
> > certainly cleans out the sinuses! Lol.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> > David Savage
> > Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2010 11:23 AM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: question for the brits American to English translation
> >
> > On 14 March 2010 09:22, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> >> On Mar 13, 2010, at 18:10, Tanya Love wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Butter vs margarine - w!  There is NOTHING comparable to the
> >>> taste of REAL butter, melted on toast with a scrape of vegemite.
> >>> Yummmo!  And margarine just doesn't cut it! :)
> >>>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> You had me right up to "scrape of Vegemite".  :-)
> >
> > Me to.
> >
> > You have to spread that stuff on thick.
> >
> > DS
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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread David Mann
On Mar 14, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Tanya Love wrote:

> Oh, another cultural difference there - we TAKE our lunch to school with us
> here - we don't have "cafeterias" that serve Hot meals to our kids.

I still use my old lunch box every day.  Had it since I was 5, I think.  It 
still has my name written on it in my mother's handwriting.  Tupperware, of 
course - nothing else would have lasted.

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread David Mann
On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:16 PM, David Savage wrote:

> I love the reaction of people from outside of Oz trying Vegemite for
> the first (and usually last) time :-)

Everyone knows Marmite is superior :))

Dave

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Re: PESO: Robin [Scanned]

2010-03-13 Thread David Mann
On Mar 13, 2010, at 11:24 AM, John Whittingham wrote:

> Taken locally: K20D DA*300/4, comment and critique welcome:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10798410

Lovely photo.

Our little fantail friend came and helped us in the garden again today but I 
was too busy with the pruning to go inside and get the camera.

He was behaving a bit like a cat, getting in the way all the time.  I realised 
that my pruning was shaking the plant enough to scare insects out of the 
foliage which he'd eat in flight.  Then he'd perch again and watch.  Very 
chatty too, I think he was quite enjoying himself.

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RE: OT - UPS schizophrenia

2010-03-13 Thread John Coyle
I agree, Bill, but in this case, the item was only available from the outfit
in Perth: in general, I always shop for computer items locally.


John in Brisbane




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Subject: RE: OT - UPS schizophrenia


> FedEx and postal services are the same world-wide, it would seem.  I 
> ordered a new ADSL+/VoIP router from Perth, the other side of Australia. 
> The item was actually stocked in Sydney, 1400km away.  The stockist sent 
> it FedEx one day after I ordered it, FedEx "attempted" to deliver two days

> later, but reported a "failure" (even though my wife and I were both home,

> waiting for the delivery), then left it at our local Australia Post 
> office, who failed to notify me it was there, as they are required to, and

> normally, do. The original supplier, when I asked for progress 
> information, gave me the wrong tracking reference, so I'm tracking the 
> wrong equipment: three weeks after ordering, I got back to the outfit I'd 
> ordered it from, they gave me the correct tracking reference and the whole

> sorry saga is revealed!  Twenty minutes after finding out where it 
> actually is, I have it in my hot little hands.
>
> Conclusion - shop locally!
>

I'm always a little aghast at the amount of trouble people will put 
themselves through to save a few dollars.

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14/03/2010, David Savage  wrote:

> Soft cock!

LOL, maybe I've just become more discriminating with age ;-)

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread David Savage
On 14 March 2010 12:08, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> On 14/03/2010, David Savage  wrote:
>> I kid you not, I like Vegemite & a lot of it.
>>
>> It's the whole, pleasure & pain thing.
>
> I converted to Promite a while back, the kid prefers it over V too so
> there must be something in it, I can't face V any longer or Marmite
> for that matter ;-P

Soft cock!

:-)

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14/03/2010, David Savage  wrote:
> I kid you not, I like Vegemite & a lot of it.
>
> It's the whole, pleasure & pain thing.

I converted to Promite a while back, the kid prefers it over V too so
there must be something in it, I can't face V any longer or Marmite
for that matter ;-P

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Re: PESO - Waiting

2010-03-13 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Dave.  I kinda liked it too.  Hasn't gotten much notice here, though.

Rick

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> shooting on the way to and from (about a mile's walk in each
> direction).  On the way home, at about 7pm, I came upon
> this lonely bicycle on the Penn campus--it's spring break.
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10799360
> >
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> >
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Re: PESO - Goksøyr

2010-03-13 Thread Sasha Sobol
I love the water.
If you are willing to take some destructive feedback, I would about 1/6 at left.
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On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Christine  Aguila
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> Neato!  Atmospheric and moody.  Cheers, Christine
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "AlunFoto" 
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>> Another pic from this week-end's foray.
>>
>> In Blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2010/03/goksyr-runde.html
>> Pic only: http://turl.no/8e2
>>
>> Tim and I are having a great time. :-)
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Re: Bogue Barn

2010-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Christine! The flash of memory I carried 'til I got back to shoot it 
was what I wound up with. The very large barn front, the trees and their 
shadows. 
Sometimes those things determine themselves.

Jack

--- On Sat, 3/13/10, Christine Aguila  wrote:

> From: Christine Aguila 
> Subject: Re: Bogue Barn
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 6:23 PM
> I like it, Jack.  Given the
> shooting circumstances, I think you did good :-). 
> Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:06 PM
> Subject: PESO: Bogue Barn
> 
> 
> > On my way home from taking care of an errand, I took a
> street (Bogue Rd) I hadn't been on for some years. I
> recorded this east facing barn and, early this AM, returned
> with some gear.
> > It's sits on an island of property surrounded by
> apartments and other commercial structures. Had to shoot
> through what we call a cyclone fence which resulted in my
> needing to heavily crop. Wanted to include the entire barn,
> but wasn't possible.
> > Without a lot of enthusiasm, am offering a portion.
> Love the detail in the orig file. I have a bit of a problem
> with the barn peak/large tree weight so near the center, but
> WTH, I had a brief moment with a camera.
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > Comments always welcome.
> > 
> > K20, DA 16~45, hand held
> > 
> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=462
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Re: Freedom to film

2010-03-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Very interesting vid, Derby!  Thanks for posting.  had a bit of a giggle 
over the sheep vid too.  Cheers, Christine



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I was originally going to comment on this commendable vid

http://current.com/items/92196240_freedom-to-film.htm

...then I saw this and my attention was distracted

http://current.com/items/92316846_a-cute-lamb-running-through-a-house.htm

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread David Savage
I kid you not, I like Vegemite & a lot of it.

It's the whole, pleasure & pain thing.

:-)


On 14 March 2010 10:10, Tanya Love  wrote:
> You can't be serious Dave?!?
>
> That is why Americans get that "face" when they first try it - because they
> spread it on thick like Peanut Butter and take a huge bite - enough to curl
> anyones toes!
>
> Mind you, as a born and bred Vegemite eater from birth, I recently graduated
> to being able to lick the knife when there is a big lump of it left there
> after making my kids school lunches.  Phew! Toe curling alright, but
> certainly cleans out the sinuses! Lol.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> David Savage
> Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2010 11:23 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: question for the brits American to English translation
>
> On 14 March 2010 09:22, Charles Robinson  wrote:
>> On Mar 13, 2010, at 18:10, Tanya Love wrote:
>>>
>>> Butter vs margarine - w!  There is NOTHING comparable to the
>>> taste of REAL butter, melted on toast with a scrape of vegemite.
>>> Yummmo!  And margarine just doesn't cut it! :)
>>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> You had me right up to "scrape of Vegemite".  :-)
>
> Me to.
>
> You have to spread that stuff on thick.
>
> DS

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Tanya Love"

Subject: RE: question for the brits American to English translation


Blasphemy!! Marmite and Vegemite are like chalk and cheese! Never should 
the

two be confused.


Believe me, there isn't much chance of that.
Funnily enough, my English wife didn't like Vegemite, but likes Marmite. I 
can barely live knowing there is a bottle of Marmite in the house, but I 
quite enjoyed the Vegemite.




Real vegemite is what I sent to you Bill,  and the "saltine snacks" are 
what

we call crackers. Lol.


Us too, actually.

William Robb



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Re: OT - UPS schizophrenia

2010-03-13 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "John Coyle"

Subject: RE: OT - UPS schizophrenia


FedEx and postal services are the same world-wide, it would seem.  I 
ordered a new ADSL+/VoIP router from Perth, the other side of Australia. 
The item was actually stocked in Sydney, 1400km away.  The stockist sent 
it FedEx one day after I ordered it, FedEx "attempted" to deliver two days 
later, but reported a "failure" (even though my wife and I were both home, 
waiting for the delivery), then left it at our local Australia Post 
office, who failed to notify me it was there, as they are required to, and 
normally, do. The original supplier, when I asked for progress 
information, gave me the wrong tracking reference, so I'm tracking the 
wrong equipment: three weeks after ordering, I got back to the outfit I'd 
ordered it from, they gave me the correct tracking reference and the whole 
sorry saga is revealed!  Twenty minutes after finding out where it 
actually is, I have it in my hot little hands.


Conclusion - shop locally!



I'm always a little aghast at the amount of trouble people will put 
themselves through to save a few dollars.


William Robb 



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Re: PESO - Goksøyr

2010-03-13 Thread Christine Aguila

Neato!  Atmospheric and moody.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO - Goksøyr



Another pic from this week-end's foray.

In Blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2010/03/goksyr-runde.html
Pic only: http://turl.no/8e2

Tim and I are having a great time. :-)

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Re: Bogue Barn

2010-03-13 Thread Christine Aguila
I like it, Jack.  Given the shooting circumstances, I think you did good 
:-).  Cheers, Christine



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From: "Jack Davis" 

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Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:06 PM
Subject: PESO: Bogue Barn


On my way home from taking care of an errand, I took a street (Bogue Rd) I 
hadn't been on for some years. I recorded this east facing barn and, early 
this AM, returned with some gear.
It's sits on an island of property surrounded by apartments and other 
commercial structures. Had to shoot through what we call a cyclone fence 
which resulted in my needing to heavily crop. Wanted to include the entire 
barn, but wasn't possible.
Without a lot of enthusiasm, am offering a portion. Love the detail in the 
orig file. I have a bit of a problem with the barn peak/large tree weight 
so near the center, but WTH, I had a brief moment with a camera.


Jack

Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO Shooters

2010-03-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Fun moment, Paul!  I like it.  Seeing pictures made with the K7 is making it 
difficult to stick to my goal of saving my tax refund  :-)!!!  Cheers, 
Christine




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Subject: PESO Shooters



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10801215&size=lg

K7, DA* 16-50/2.8, ISO 6400, f3.5 @ 1/60th, 31mm

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Tanya Love
Blasphemy!! Marmite and Vegemite are like chalk and cheese! Never should the
two be confused.

Real vegemite is what I sent to you Bill,  and the "saltine snacks" are what
we call crackers. Lol.

Good stuff hey?  My kids take them to school every day and they are the one
thing that never comes home 
uneaten.

Oh, another cultural difference there - we TAKE our lunch to school with us
here - we don't have "cafeterias" that serve
Hot meals to our kids.  We do have "tuckshops" where the kids can place an
order in a brown paper bag (or online now!),
and have it delivered to their classrooms, but most kids only do that like
once per week, as a special "treat", or when,
like me, their mums haven't been to buy groceries and can't work out what to
send them for lunch! Lol.

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Subject: Re: question for the brits American to English translation


- Original Message - 
From: "Tanya Love"
Subject: RE: question for the brits American to English translation



> There is NOTHING comparable to the taste
> of REAL butter, melted on toast with a scrape of vegemite.

You say this as if it is a good thing. 

Actualy, the little Vegemite and Saltines snacks that you sent me were much 
appreciated. We can get a food product called Marmite here, (I presume it's 
food, it comes from a grocery store), but I've never seen Vegemite here.

William Robb 


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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Tanya Love
You can't be serious Dave?!?

That is why Americans get that "face" when they first try it - because they
spread it on thick like Peanut Butter and take a huge bite - enough to curl
anyones toes!

Mind you, as a born and bred Vegemite eater from birth, I recently graduated
to being able to lick the knife when there is a big lump of it left there
after making my kids school lunches.  Phew! Toe curling alright, but
certainly cleans out the sinuses! Lol.



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On 14 March 2010 09:22, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On Mar 13, 2010, at 18:10, Tanya Love wrote:
>>
>> Butter vs margarine - w!  There is NOTHING comparable to the 
>> taste of REAL butter, melted on toast with a scrape of vegemite.  
>> Yummmo!  And margarine just doesn't cut it! :)
>>
>
> 
>
> You had me right up to "scrape of Vegemite".  :-)

Me to.

You have to spread that stuff on thick.

DS

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RE: OT - UPS schizophrenia

2010-03-13 Thread John Coyle
FedEx and postal services are the same world-wide, it would seem.  I ordered a 
new ADSL+/VoIP router from Perth, the other side of Australia.  The item was 
actually stocked in Sydney, 1400km away.  The stockist sent it FedEx one day 
after I ordered it, FedEx "attempted" to deliver two days later, but reported a 
"failure" (even though my wife and I were both home, waiting for the delivery), 
then left it at our local Australia Post office, who failed to notify me it was 
there, as they are required to, and normally, do. The original supplier, when I 
asked for progress information, gave me the wrong tracking reference, so I'm 
tracking the wrong equipment: three weeks after ordering, I got back to the 
outfit I'd ordered it from, they gave me the correct tracking reference and the 
whole sorry saga is revealed!  Twenty minutes after finding out where it 
actually is, I have it in my hot little hands.

Conclusion - shop locally!


John in Brisbane



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My new PC came via FedEx.  It sat in Winchester, VA for 2 days with a 
status of  "Not due for delivery."

Christian

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Subject: Re: OT - UPS schizophrenia


When an item is scanned the tracking gives you an estimated delivery 
date.  Obviously it got to Houston ahead of schedule so they had to do 
something to keep it moving around in order to meet that estimated 
date.  God help them if they delivered a day earlier. After all, you 
didn't pay for overnight delivery. ;-)

-p

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>
> I didn't know UPS gets frequent flier miles
> I don't see any other reason why the package passed through Houston
> twice within less than 24 hours.
> I suspect they forgot to parachute it on the way from Houston to 
Dallas,
> but the plane/track was making only right turns (as it was ordered 
some
> 2-3 year ago - to save the gas, when all routes were reprogrammed for
> that), - so the only way it could get back was through
> the neighboring state of Kentucky.
>
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Re: Digital Darkroom

2010-03-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Godfrey:  Calumet  Photo has the Moab Leather binders 12 x 13 for 
$59.99--and you're right!  they look very nice!

http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/LR4817/?t=GB01&a=CA01&CAWELAID=219154526
I just check B & H and they have the Moab Chinle Ice Nin Portfolio Kit. 
It's not leather, but looks interesting.


The clam shell Century boxes are just what I need--thanks for the product 
reco!


You should do a how-to article for your web site on how you make those 
corner and hanging mounts  :-).


It's Rototrim for me then!  :-)  And thanks for the advice on choosing a 
size!


The low end printer idea was something I read somewhere, and I included the 
idea on the list to see if anyone thought it was a good or unnecessary idea. 
I got my answer!  :-).


I haven't tried the Moab Summerset Velvet, might do so.  I have tried 
Hahnemühle Bamboo-it was good--yep, I'd consider including that in the mix.


Big thanks & cheers, Godfrey!  Suggestions and tips very much appreciated. 
Christine







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Subject: Re: Digital Darkroom



*Printing*
-Exhibit quality printer
-3 full sets of ink for above
-storage space for above printer parts
-good stable printer stand
-printer cover
-Low-end printer for 4 x 6 proofs
- full sets of ink for above
-Paper Stash
13 x 19 inch:
Ilford Gold Fiber Silk
Epson Velvet Fine Art
8 ½ x 11 inch:
Ilford Gold Fiber Silk
Epson Velvet Fine Art
4 x 6 inch:
Epson Ultra Premium Glossy


Why buy two printers and stock several different sizes/types of paper
and ink, and not have the proofs match the finals?

- Epson R3800 or R4880 printer.
- Due to the ink tank size, one spare set of ink tanks
- High quality paper cutter
- 17x22 sheet stock of your favorite three or four papers (I print on
Epson Velvet Fine Art, Hahnemühle Bamboo, and Moab Somerset Velvet
Enhanced. Very occasionally I print a little on Epson Exhibition
Fiber, but I don't like doing so because I have to switch to Photo
Black and the surface is more fragile. But it sure looks nice when an
air-dried gloss finish is appropriate...)

Gang-print many images in small sizes to your proof size on big
sheets. Now your proofs will match your finals, and be more economical
at the same time.

When you need a volume of 4x6 prints, have a print service run them.
It's cheaper and the quality is as good as it needs to be.


*Print Preparation*
-High end paper cutter (*)


You want a Rototrim paper cutter, standard of the industry. Pick one
size larger than what you think you need. I bought 15 inch, should
have gotten 24 inch.


-Mounting materials (*)
Photomount Spray?
Double sided mounting tabs


I use Scotch 3M cold-mount positionable mounting adhesive for some
things. Otherwise I make corner and hanger mounts of archival paper,
taped with archival linen mounting tape.


*Portfolio Stuff*
-Transport Portfolio (*)
-Professional Portfolio (*)


Moab makes some beautiful leather portfolio binders, expensive as hell
but gorgeous. I use Century Boxes mostly, however, or package a
portfolio as a "folio" style presentation to present to potential
clients and gallery people (loose prints in an elegant, fitted heavy
paper cover ... I designed my own covers, had a die made to cut them,
and have them cut for me at a local volume paper/printing house.) Each
folio can handle a presentation up to about 20 prints in size.

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Tanya Love
They make not bad Hot Chocolate too, so long as you ask for half-strength,
otherwise, you get to the bottom of the cup and it is as though you are
drinking mud!



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On 14 March 2010 09:03, John Sessoms  wrote:
> Now Mickey D's (Mickey like Mickey Mouse) is pushing McCafe coffee 
> flavored drinks - NO I don't want to try a McCafe today, I want a 
> medium coffee, and I don't want nothin' in it BUT coffee ...

Americans may drink it by the bucket load, but they don't "get" coffee.

I grew up & live in a town that is mostly southern European migrants,
Italians & Yugoslaves etc. Proper coffee has been around me all my life,
hell the main street in Fremantle is referred to as The Cappuccino Strip,
due to all the Italian cafe's. That drip shit that is served everywhere in
the US is gawdawful.

And as much as I hate to admit it, the McCafe coffee isn't too bad (if
you're jonesing for a caffeine fix).

DS

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Re: PESO Shooters

2010-03-13 Thread paul stenquist
Good to hear Tim.
And thanks to all who commented or had a look.
Paul
On Mar 13, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:15 AM, P N Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10801215&size=lg
> 
> That one made me smile, thanks. -T
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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread David Savage
On 14 March 2010 09:03, John Sessoms  wrote:
> Now Mickey D's (Mickey like Mickey Mouse) is pushing McCafe coffee flavored
> drinks - NO I don't want to try a McCafe today, I want a medium coffee, and
> I don't want nothin' in it BUT coffee ...

Americans may drink it by the bucket load, but they don't "get" coffee.

I grew up & live in a town that is mostly southern European migrants,
Italians & Yugoslaves etc. Proper coffee has been around me all my
life, hell the main street in Fremantle is referred to as The
Cappuccino Strip, due to all the Italian cafe's. That drip shit that
is served everywhere in the US is gawdawful.

And as much as I hate to admit it, the McCafe coffee isn't too bad (if
you're jonesing for a caffeine fix).

DS

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
John,
You gotta get out more.  Mickey D's served sweet tea up here in
Chicago all summer.  And they'll still serve you real coffee without
any of that fru-fru stuff.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:03 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Doug Franklin
>>
>> On 2010-03-13 8:13, Tanya Love wrote:
>
>>> You also don't seem to understand it if a person says a really simple
>>> thing
>>> > like "ta muchly", which of course translates to "thanks very much".
>>
>> Well, considering how the English pronounce Chalmondley, we Americans are
>> a little gun shy on "English-like" pronunciations.  To our ears, "ta muchly"
>> could actually be a pronunciation of a much longer word.  :-)
>
> Ta means bye (as in good-bye); usually Ta-ta == bye-bye (or buh-bye if
> you're responding to a luser)
>
> See also TTFN - Ta-ta for now.
>
> Not to be confused with tatas.
>
>>> Oh, and here's yet another straange American fact - you lot drink
>>> your
>>> > tea COLD!! AND, like, with EVERY meal!!  See, we tend to drink WATER
>>> > cold,
>>> > and with every meal, and save the "tea" for when we are needing a nice
>>> > hot
>>> > cuppa at the end of long day -
>>
>> Well, in the US, usually coffee, sometimes hot chocolate (cocoa), are the
>> hot drinks, most any other drink is served cold.  Cold coffee products have
>> been coming out here the last few years, though.  I don't care much for
>> them, myself.
>>
>
> Tea is ICED tea. If you want the other stuff ask for Hot Tea.
>
> And in the south, tea means SWEET tea - almost half sugar. If you want tea
> without sugar you have to ask for un-sweetened tea. That's what Yankee
> tourists drink, so we've got it available, you just have to ask for it.
>
> If you go up north, you can't get sweet tea. If you ask for it, they'll just
> bring you un-sweet tea and two packets of sugar. You can ask for more
> packets of sugar, but IT'S STILL NOT THE SAME THING!
>
> And if you really want to make 'em crazy up north, order bacon and eggs and
> ask 'em to bring you grits instead of potatoes.
>
> Now Mickey D's (Mickey like Mickey Mouse) is pushing McCafe coffee flavored
> drinks - NO I don't want to try a McCafe today, I want a medium coffee, and
> I don't want nothin' in it BUT coffee ...
>
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Re: PESO Shooters

2010-03-13 Thread Tim Bray
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:15 AM, P N Stenquist  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10801215&size=lg

That one made me smile, thanks. -T

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Re: peso - portrait

2010-03-13 Thread Tim Bray
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Sasha Sobol  wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4430214904/
>
> I am not sure about this one, need your comments and critique.

I like it.  Might want to brighten it up a little bit. -T

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread David Savage
On 14 March 2010 08:10, Tanya Love  wrote:
> Butter vs margarine - w!  There is NOTHING comparable to the taste
> of REAL butter, melted on toast with a scrape of vegemite.  Yummmo!


...and slices of vine ripened tomato.

DS

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RE: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison

2010-03-13 Thread Tanya Love

Bob W said:

>And how did you get started in this business? As I recall it was in exactly
the same way.

Good point Bob, and my ego totally needed to be put back in it's place too
(it gets a bit too big for its boots sometimes!). So, I totally agree! 

However, take a look at this:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=50625&id=1022455271&ref=nf#!/album.php
?page=6&aid=161316&id=547536217

These were shot by a girl I know (in my home town), who is calling herself a
"professional" and who purchased her FIRST slr camera less than a year ago!
Grr.  They are FAR from professional!

> I know how to use it AND I hate it. Anyone who thinks the mark of a
professional is knowing how to use artificial light knows nothing about
photography.

I totally agree!  The best shots I have done are the most uncontrived,
candid shots without invasive use of flash/strobes.  It takes special skill
to be able to "read" the light and know when natural light will make or
break the shot, and/or when flash is needed.

I hate using flash/strobes too, but I LOVE my ring flash!  That thing is my
new best friend and it is the way I have achieved some of my most favourite
shots lately, like this, which I shot yesterday:

http://www.lovebytes.com.au/pics/TaigheBorder.jpg

Anyways, IMO, the true measure of a being a great photographer (whether you
are pro or not!), is knowing how to use strobes/flash, and when NOT to use
it, or when TO use it.  I think THAT is the key.

Tan.x.



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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread David Savage
On 14 March 2010 09:22, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On Mar 13, 2010, at 18:10, Tanya Love wrote:
>>
>> Butter vs margarine - w!  There is NOTHING comparable to the taste
>> of REAL butter, melted on toast with a scrape of vegemite.  Yummmo!  And
>> margarine just doesn't cut it! :)
>>
>
> 
>
> You had me right up to "scrape of Vegemite".  :-)

Me to.

You have to spread that stuff on thick.

DS

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 13, 2010, at 18:10, Tanya Love wrote:
> 
> Butter vs margarine - w!  There is NOTHING comparable to the taste
> of REAL butter, melted on toast with a scrape of vegemite.  Yummmo!  And
> margarine just doesn't cut it! :)
> 



You had me right up to "scrape of Vegemite".  :-)

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 13, 2010, at 17:05, Tanya Love wrote:

> Hehe, wll, I live in Brisvegas  aka Brisbane...
> 
> The "gas" thing never made sense to me either?  To me "gas" usually has LPG
> written in front of it! ;-)  We too call them petrol stations, or fuel
> stations or service stations, cause they are places that we go to to "fuel
> up".
> 

Thanks to WikiAnswers:

"Petroleum gas oil was one of the early "generic" names given to automotive 
engine fuels by scientists. As always, everyday use meant that it quickly got 
shortened: in Europe the Brits and Irish adopted the petroleum part of 
"petroleum gas oil", which naturally got shortened to just petrol. In Canada 
and the US they adopted the gas oil part, initially naming the fuel gasoline, 
which naturally got shortened to just gas."


You're all quite welcome.  I'll be here all week!  Try the veal.

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Re: Digital Darkroom

2010-03-13 Thread Christine Aguila

Thanks for the links for back up drives.  Very much appreciated.
As to mat cutting, don't think that will be for me.  I can already imagine I 
wouldn't be very good at it.


Thanks, John!  Big cheers, Christine




From: "John Sessoms" 


Just a couple of suggestions that I think might it easier accomplishing 
what I think you're looking for.


1. Instead of double back up hard-drives, consider a Network Attached 
Storage Enclosure and a hard-drive dock.


The NAS backup is your local copy. The hard-drive dock makes it easy to 
connect regular hard-drives for backup and quickly remove them for 
off-site storage. You could keep a couple at the office and rotate them on 
schedule, say once a week take the one from home to work, and bring the 
one from work back home.


Somebody told me, "It ain't a back-up unless it's off site."

I'm talking about something like this:

NAS - http://tinyurl.com/ykqwync

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=207&srkey=network%20attached%20storage

Drive dock - http://tinyurl.com/yfps6mz

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=2785&name=Hard%20Drive%20Docks

2. Print preparation - Dahl rolling trimmer. Guillotine style trimmers 
just don't cut it. They give ragged edges. There are other brands besides 
Dahl, but I'm not sure how they compare to Dahl.


http://www.machine-solution.com/Rotary-Paper-Cutters/products/14/1/0

If you're planning to cut your own mats you want a Logan Mat Cutter.

http://www.dickblick.com/categories/matcutters/

I have the Logan Simplex 750, but you might get by with the Logan 450 if 
you don't do a lot of matting. If you really get into it, you might end up 
with the Framers Edge 650.


They're expensive, but they give clean precise cuts with no ragged edges. 
That gives your mats a sharp appearance.


... One other thing - you'll need a good solid work table for cutting 
prints and cutting mats and a place to put it.



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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread David Savage
On 14 March 2010 07:05, Tanya Love  wrote:
> Hehe, wll, I live in Brisvegas  aka Brisbane...

Queenslanders have a very unique sound...

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread David Savage
On 14 March 2010 07:14, Scott Loveless  wrote:
> The by-products of brewing, here in the US, are often turned into
> fertilizer or horse feed.  I'm sure as hell not gonna spread it on my
> toast.  

We had some people from Canada staying with us about a month ago.

I love the reaction of people from outside of Oz trying Vegemite for
the first (and usually last) time :-)

DS

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 13, 2010, at 6:46, Tanya Love wrote:

> Gotta throw my hat into the ring here - when I was there for GFM, I couldn't
> believe or comprehend the fact that you have ORANGE cheese in America!  I
> had
> never seen orange cheese in my life!  I just did not and still don't "get"
> how cheese can turn orange when it is made from white milk!  I guess the
> explanation
> below kind of answers the question for me...

Where ya from, Tanya?  According to TheStraightDope.com, the practice of dying 
cheese orange originated in the U.K.:

"It's orange because they dye it orange. You knew this, of course. The question 
is, Why orange as opposed to, say, a nice taupe? As near as cheese historians 
can make out, the practice originated many years ago in England. Milk contains 
varying amounts of beta-carotene, the yellow-orange stuff found in carrots and 
other vegetables. Milk from pasture-fed cows has higher beta-carotene levels in 
the spring and summer, when the cows are munching on fresh grass, and lower 
levels during the fall and winter, when they're eating hay. Thus the natural 
color of the cheese varies over the course of a year. So cheese makers began 
adding coloring agents."

>From http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1284/why-is-cheddar-cheese-orange


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RE: peso - portrait

2010-03-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Sasha Sobol

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4430214904/

I am not sure about this one, need your comments and critique.

--Sasha


No, I think you're right. It does look like a portrait. ;-D

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Re: Digital Darkroom

2010-03-13 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: "John Sessoms" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Darkroom



From: Doug Franklin

On 2010-03-12 23:19, Christine Aguila wrote:

> 30 years ago I once mounted a few photos with a home
> iron. I don't know if I could do that with inkjet prints. Anybody 
> know?

> I'll have to give it a test probably.


Hmmm, I don't know.  I've always used spray-on adhesive and a cold, 
rubber roller to mount prints.  Those were wet chemical prints, though. 
I'm not sure how the heat would affect some of the modern inkjet paper 
coatings.


You can dry-mount ink-jet prints. Best if you turn the heat down slightly 
and you should use a special "release paper" like Bienfang double coated 
silicone paper between the press and the print.


http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/47188-REG/Seal_Bienfang_SE_928_Release_Paper_26_x5_yds_.html



Oooh, thanks, John.  I was just about to start looking for something like 
this.  I might be able to test an ink jet print in a mounting press, so 
having something like this will help.  Big thanks & cheers, Christine





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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Doug Franklin

On 2010-03-13 8:13, Tanya Love wrote:



You also don't seem to understand it if a person says a really simple thing
> like "ta muchly", which of course translates to "thanks very much".


Well, considering how the English pronounce Chalmondley, we Americans 
are a little gun shy on "English-like" pronunciations.  To our ears, "ta 
muchly" could actually be a pronunciation of a much longer word.  :-) 



Ta means bye (as in good-bye); usually Ta-ta == bye-bye (or buh-bye if 
you're responding to a luser)


See also TTFN - Ta-ta for now.

Not to be confused with tatas.


Oh, and here's yet another straange American fact - you lot drink your
> tea COLD!! AND, like, with EVERY meal!!  See, we tend to drink WATER cold,
> and with every meal, and save the "tea" for when we are needing a nice hot
> cuppa at the end of long day -


Well, in the US, usually coffee, sometimes hot chocolate (cocoa), are 
the hot drinks, most any other drink is served cold.  Cold coffee 
products have been coming out here the last few years, though.  I don't 
care much for them, myself.




Tea is ICED tea. If you want the other stuff ask for Hot Tea.

And in the south, tea means SWEET tea - almost half sugar. If you want 
tea without sugar you have to ask for un-sweetened tea. That's what 
Yankee tourists drink, so we've got it available, you just have to ask 
for it.


If you go up north, you can't get sweet tea. If you ask for it, they'll 
just bring you un-sweet tea and two packets of sugar. You can ask for 
more packets of sugar, but IT'S STILL NOT THE SAME THING!


And if you really want to make 'em crazy up north, order bacon and eggs 
and ask 'em to bring you grits instead of potatoes.


Now Mickey D's (Mickey like Mickey Mouse) is pushing McCafe coffee 
flavored drinks - NO I don't want to try a McCafe today, I want a medium 
coffee, and I don't want nothin' in it BUT coffee ...



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Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison

2010-03-13 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: "P N Stenquist" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison




On Mar 13, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Tanya Love  
wrote:
I TOTALLY agree! And this is why there are so many "pros" floating 
around

places like Facebook who boast the following:

"I am an available light photographer, who conveniently comes to  you or 
your

chosen location..."

Translated to meaning - "I am a mum who bought myself a camera and  can 
take
ok photos and add a vignette or two in PS Elements.  Have no idea  how 
to use
flash, and can't afford to buy the stuff anyways, and can't afford  a 
studio

either".

I have a real bee in my bonnet about this new "breed", don't get me 
started!


t.x.



Well, there are those of us who know how to use a strobe, can get
quite good results with one and still loathe the things.

I'm one of those.

I've got a nice little collection of speedlights and strobes and will
use them if absolutely necessary, but if I can get the shot without
them I will.

I tend to agree for the most part. But there are times when I can "get  a 
shot" without a strobe but realize I can get a better shot by adding  some 
flash. For example, when shooting kids on the playground with  high light 
or backlight, a little flash fill and high-speed synch  plusses the 
photography considerably. Yes, reflectors would be just as  good or 
better, but have you ever tried to keep up with a pack of  playing kids 
while holding a reflector?


I'm very fond of strobes both in the studio and on location for what  they 
can bring to my photography.

Paul



I'm with Paul on this one.  Learning the little technique of shooting in 
manual at f4 and 1/60th of a second with some bounced flash really opened up 
photographic possibilities for me.  I haven't mastered strobe use, but I'm 
not against it or as resistant to it as I used to be.  Cheers, Christine 




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Re: [Bulk] Re: Look Who Woke Up Salivating

2010-03-13 Thread Paul Ewins
> 
>> Come to think of it, my Speed Graphics don't have dials or buttons. Lots of
>> levers though.
>> Paul
> 
> How do you release a 'cocked' lever without a button?
> 
> keith whaley

Another lever.  One lever to cock the shutter, another one to fire it, a third 
to select the aperture and on some shutters two more levers for preview and 
flash sync (i.e. choosing v, m or x). On mosts shutters the speed is set with a 
ring around the outside of the shutter. True, there are also a few knobs here 
and there but I stand by the no buttons or dials.  

Which is not to say that I think that this was what KR meant, just that monkeys 
with keyboards will occasionally write Shakespeare.

Paul   
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Re: Digital Darkroom

2010-03-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Doug Franklin

On 2010-03-12 23:19, Christine Aguila wrote:

> 30 years ago I once mounted a few photos with a home
> iron. I don't know if I could do that with inkjet prints. Anybody know?
> I'll have to give it a test probably.


Hmmm, I don't know.  I've always used spray-on adhesive and a cold, 
rubber roller to mount prints.  Those were wet chemical prints, though. 
  I'm not sure how the heat would affect some of the modern inkjet paper 
coatings.


You can dry-mount ink-jet prints. Best if you turn the heat down 
slightly and you should use a special "release paper" like Bienfang 
double coated silicone paper between the press and the print.


http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/47188-REG/Seal_Bienfang_SE_928_Release_Paper_26_x5_yds_.html

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Larry Colen


On Mar 13, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:


On 3/13/10, Tanya Love  wrote:


Further to this, we have TWO types of "muffins" - the ones that are  
like a
huge patty cake (which you call cupcakes) without icing on it (you  
call it
"frosting").  And then the muffin (aka "English" in variety) that  
you have
for brekkie (you call it "breakfast"), with heaps of melted butter  
and
Vegemite or jam on it - oh, wait, you call it "jelly"... Doesn't  
matter as

they are much better with Vegemite anyways!


Jelly and jam are similar, but not quite the same.  Jelly is made from
fruit juice.  Jam is made from crushed fruit.  Preserves, raspberry
being my favorite, are made from chunks of the fruit.  They're all
combined with lots of sugar and pectin.


As it say on a shirt that I got at the Mezzjelly blues dance workshop  
weekend:

"It's got to be jelly because jam don't shake like that."





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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Tanya Love"

Subject: RE: question for the brits American to English translation




There is NOTHING comparable to the taste
of REAL butter, melted on toast with a scrape of vegemite.


You say this as if it is a good thing. 

Actualy, the little Vegemite and Saltines snacks that you sent me were much 
appreciated. We can get a food product called Marmite here, (I presume it's 
food, it comes from a grocery store), but I've never seen Vegemite here.


William Robb 



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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Tanya Love
Oh, no, I'm not talking "real" cheese here!  I  definitely mean the sliced,
square type that you find at Subway, Maccas (McDonalds) etc. aka Plastic
Cheese.

I am very well aware of the thousands of types of delicious cheeses
available world wide, me being a Fetta girl myself! Cheese is one of my
favourite things in the whole world!

I just thought of another thing too...

Cordial!  No-one, and I mean NO one in the US had any idea what I was
talking about when I asked if anyone had cordial!  We always have at least 2
bottles of different flavours in our house!  It is a concentrated water
syrup stuff that you add about a cm of to the bottom of a glass and fill the
remainder with water.  It is always a fruity flavour - raspberry, "fruit
cup", orange, lime, lemon etc.  The closest American equivalent I could find
was "Kool Aid", but it is powder?!

I was SO excited to come home and have a nice big glass of raspberry
cordial!  I guess we drink it like you guys drink Iced Tea - and it's just
not the same without a ton of ice cubes clinking around the glass!

Butter vs margarine - w!  There is NOTHING comparable to the taste
of REAL butter, melted on toast with a scrape of vegemite.  Yummmo!  And
margarine just doesn't cut it! :)

-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John
Sessoms
Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2010 9:27 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: question for the brits American to English translation


Depends on what cheese you saw, and where you saw it.

If it was in one of the "old timey, mountain country stores" around
Grandfather Mountain, and the cheese was cut in wedges off a big wheel, you
missed a treat, North Carolina red rind hoop cheese.

It's a traditional farm made cheese carried down from the days of spring
houses in back-woods "hollers" where cheese making was the only way to keep
milk from spoiling before it got to market. It doesn't have food coloring
except for the red in the bees-wax rind (which you peel off and throw away).

"American Cheese" has the same relationship to real cheese that margarine
has to butter. Both margarine and American Cheese have food coloring added -
margarine because dairy farmers forced the U.S. 
Department of Agriculture to require it to do so. The dairy farms thought
the color would be off-putting because butter is white.

Didn't work, and now butter often has food color added so it will look like
margarine.

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Re: [Bulk] Re: Look Who Woke Up Salivating

2010-03-13 Thread Keith Whaley

Paul Ewins wrote:



Come to think of it, my Speed Graphics don't have dials or buttons. Lots of
levers though.

Paul


How do you release a 'cocked' lever without a button?

keith whaley

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Re: [Bulk] Re: Look Who Woke Up Salivating

2010-03-13 Thread paul stenquist

On Mar 13, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Paul Ewins wrote:

>>> Quoting KR:
 
 "Features just get in the way of taking photographs, that's why pros
 and I use cameras with no buttons or dials."
>>> 
>>> Now that's just effin' stupid, even coming from KR.
>>> 
>>> How do you set the shutter speed or even trip the shutter if your camera has
>>> "no buttons or dials"?
>>> 
>>> What a maroon!
>> 
>> No John, I wasn't quoting KR, I was posting the new messages **I'M**
>> going to be writing in **MY** website so I can become as famous as KR.
>> 
>> And John, it's clear you're not a pro, or otherwise you would know how
>> to take pictures with a camera without buttons or dials  :-p
>> 
> 
> Actually, the 1954 pulitzer prize for photography - the first awarded to a 
> woman - was taken using a camera with no dials and just one button. It was a 
> box brownie.
> 
> Come to think of it, my Speed Graphics don't have dials or buttons. Lots of 
> levers though.
> 
My speed graphic has a dial -- or knob -- for winding the focal plane shutter. 
More knobs for locking down the tilt. 
Paul

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Re: battery pack for Pentax af540

2010-03-13 Thread paul stenquist
I use the Pentax pack with C cells. It works well. I do wish there was a lead 
acid battery available for the 540, but unfortunately there is none of which 
I'm aware.
Paul
On Mar 13, 2010, at 6:31 PM, 27...@comcast.net wrote:

> Has anyone made a external pack for this flash or know of something besides 
> the c powered pack that Pentax sells / Thanks
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Re: [Bulk] Re: Look Who Woke Up Salivating

2010-03-13 Thread Paul Ewins
>> Quoting KR:
>>> 
>>> "Features just get in the way of taking photographs, that's why pros
>>> and I use cameras with no buttons or dials."
>> 
>> Now that's just effin' stupid, even coming from KR.
>> 
>> How do you set the shutter speed or even trip the shutter if your camera has
>> "no buttons or dials"?
>> 
>> What a maroon!
> 
> No John, I wasn't quoting KR, I was posting the new messages **I'M**
> going to be writing in **MY** website so I can become as famous as KR.
> 
> And John, it's clear you're not a pro, or otherwise you would know how
> to take pictures with a camera without buttons or dials  :-p
> 

Actually, the 1954 pulitzer prize for photography - the first awarded to a 
woman - was taken using a camera with no dials and just one button. It was a 
box brownie.

Come to think of it, my Speed Graphics don't have dials or buttons. Lots of 
levers though.

Paul
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Re: PESO Shooters

2010-03-13 Thread Rick Womer
Not shabby at all for ISO 6400!  Good shot, too.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10801215&size=lg
> 
> K7, DA* 16-50/2.8, ISO 6400, f3.5 @ 1/60th, 31mm
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Re: K7 Manual Mode Problem (PDML Digest, Vol 47, Issue 132)

2010-03-13 Thread Sasha Sobol
No problems with manual mode on K7 here.
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On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Dario Bonazza
 wrote:
>> Gaëtan Beauchamp wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone. Does anybody had problems with manual mode in K7? I am
>>> experiencing some and I think that I'll have to send it to Pentax
>>> Canada. It is impossible to trigger Tv with the front dial, it's going
>>> up but not down. I have to use the green button to come down to the
>>> fastest exposition. The rear dial seems to works OK.  I discoverthough
>>> that a grip give me access to all Tv and Av settings that I want.  Is
>>> someone experienced something similar and how to fix it if possible?
>>> Thanks. Gaetan B.
>>
>> I don't own a K-7, hence I cannot try that. However, go to the menu and
>> try setting Tv on the rear dial and Av on the front one, just to check
>> whether it's a hardware fault or a software bug.
>
> If the front dial keeps working one way even when setting aperture, it's a
> hardware fault of the front dial.
> Otherwise, it's a software bug.
>
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battery pack for Pentax af540

2010-03-13 Thread 272yb
Has anyone made a external pack for this flash or know of something besides the 
c powered pack that Pentax sells / Thanks

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: "Tanya Love"

Gotta throw my hat into the ring here - when I was there for GFM, I couldn't
believe or comprehend the fact that you have ORANGE cheese in America!  I
had
never seen orange cheese in my life!  I just did not and still don't "get"
how cheese can turn orange when it is made from white milk!  I guess the
explanation
below kind of answers the question for me...  so glad I didn't eat any
of that orange stuff whilst I was there!  I like my cheese natural,
unprocessed and 
WITHOUT food colouring thanks!


Depends on what cheese you saw, and where you saw it.

If it was in one of the "old timey, mountain country stores" around 
Grandfather Mountain, and the cheese was cut in wedges off a big wheel, 
you missed a treat, North Carolina red rind hoop cheese.


It's a traditional farm made cheese carried down from the days of spring 
houses in back-woods "hollers" where cheese making was the only way to 
keep milk from spoiling before it got to market. It doesn't have food 
coloring except for the red in the bees-wax rind (which you peel off and 
throw away).


"American Cheese" has the same relationship to real cheese that 
margarine has to butter. Both margarine and American Cheese have food 
coloring added - margarine because dairy farmers forced the U.S. 
Department of Agriculture to require it to do so. The dairy farms 
thought the color would be off-putting because butter is white.


Didn't work, and now butter often has food color added so it will look 
like margarine.


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/13/10, Tanya Love  wrote:
>
>  Further to this, we have TWO types of "muffins" - the ones that are like a
>  huge patty cake (which you call cupcakes) without icing on it (you call it
>  "frosting").  And then the muffin (aka "English" in variety) that you have
>  for brekkie (you call it "breakfast"), with heaps of melted butter and
>  Vegemite or jam on it - oh, wait, you call it "jelly"... Doesn't matter as
>  they are much better with Vegemite anyways!

Jelly and jam are similar, but not quite the same.  Jelly is made from
fruit juice.  Jam is made from crushed fruit.  Preserves, raspberry
being my favorite, are made from chunks of the fruit.  They're all
combined with lots of sugar and pectin.

Jello-O is a name brand for fruit flavored gelatin, and may not have
any actual fruit in it at all.

The by-products of brewing, here in the US, are often turned into
fertilizer or horse feed.  I'm sure as hell not gonna spread it on my
toast.  

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Tanya Love
rd to say that a 
> food tastes "nice".  It is something I say all the time "oooh, ym, 
> that is s nice!" And, everytime I said it at GFM, the American 
> reply to me was raised eyebrows (or just one to those who are clever 
> enough to possess that talent).  Apparently, you should only ever say 
> that food is "good", because people are "nice".
>
> Oh, and you don't say "heaps" because you should say "a lot" as 
> apparently, you only manure in "heaps" and you don't say "thanks 
> heaps!" (another thing I say ALL the time!), but you CAN say "thanks A
LOT".
>
> You also don't seem to understand it if a person says a really simple 
> thing like "ta muchly", which of course translates to "thanks very much".
>
> Oh, and here's yet another straange American fact - you lot drink 
> your tea COLD!! AND, like, with EVERY meal!!  See, we tend to drink 
> WATER cold, and with every meal, and save the "tea" for when we are 
> needing a nice hot cuppa at the end of long day - personally, I like 
> mine with milk and oh, about 2 1/2 sugars, but with ice cubes, and in 
> a glass, well that is just WRONG!
>
> And here's another fun fact - Americans LOVE it when Aussies 
> (pronounced OZZIES!!! Very weird that you have no trouble pronouncing 
> it when it has the word "Osbourne" after it), say the word "wanker".  
> I  must have said that word a thousand times whilst I was there as it 
> seemed to entertain you (well, Tom) so much!  So, here it is again ... 
> Wangka...!  Ooooh, I can hear the giggles now!
>
> Oh, and btw, yes, this is indeed what we call a crumpet...
>
> http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1383338/2/istockpho
> to_138 
> 3338_toasted_english_crumpet_with_melting_butter_against_whiteon.jpg
>
> I think the strangest thing of all though, was the fact that Cotty was 
> really the only one who I could understand 100% of the time!  Sad, but
true!
> We also had this amazing common bond called junk food and we were both 
> in heaven when we discovered how EVERYTHING in America is HUGE!!  You 
> could have knocked me over with a featha (bit more Aussie twang 
> there!), when I saw the MONSTER boxes of Tic Tacs!! OMG, HEAVEN!
>
> One other strange thing I learned at GFM is that there is a weird 
> species of red haired, bearded Welshmen that like to go off into bear 
> country on their own, overnight, in almost freezing temperatures 
> (apparently this was your SUMMER!), and rain, on some strange quest 
> for photos of a sunrise.  I got to meet one of them, although I am 
> sure that there must be others in existence too... right?
>
> t.x.
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Re: PESO - Goksøyr

2010-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
The frozen well timed wave adds much to the composition. According to my 
screen, I feel the scene would benefit from a bit of additional lighting to 
bring out some detail in the near boulders.
Not a major thing, but for some reason that dark spot on the left of the far 
ridge is distracting.

Jack

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> Subject: PESO - Goksøyr
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 1:31 PM
> Another pic from this week-end's
> foray.
> 
> In Blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2010/03/goksyr-runde.html
> Pic only: http://turl.no/8e2
> 
> Tim and I are having a great time. :-)
> 
> Jostein
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Re: [Bulk] Re: Look Who Woke Up Salivating

2010-03-13 Thread Miserere
On 13 March 2010 06:25, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Miserere
>
> Quoting KR:
>>
>> "Features just get in the way of taking photographs, that's why pros
>> and I use cameras with no buttons or dials."
>
> Now that's just effin' stupid, even coming from KR.
>
> How do you set the shutter speed or even trip the shutter if your camera has
> "no buttons or dials"?
>
> What a maroon!

No John, I wasn't quoting KR, I was posting the new messages **I'M**
going to be writing in **MY** website so I can become as famous as KR.

And John, it's clear you're not a pro, or otherwise you would know how
to take pictures with a camera without buttons or dials  :-p


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Miserere
Good insights there, Tanya.

Maybe the biggest differences between British and American (and
Aussie, Kiwi, etc) is the pronunciation of certain words. When I first
arrived in the US (with my British accent) waitresses couldn't
understand when I ordered water. 9 years later...and they still can't.
It seems woh-ter (closed "o") is sooo far removed from wah-rer
(open "a") as to be a completely different word, even when placed
within the context of the answer to the question "what would you like
to drink?". Nowadays my wife translates for me when we order at
restaurants.

Another interesting point worth mentioning is that in the UK
**everyone** understands American slang and pronunciation, while here
in the US only 1% of people understand us Brits. Whenever I come
across someone who understands everything I say, I always ask them if
they're big fans of Monty Python, at which point their faces light up
and they proceed to re-enact the Blue Norwegian sketch. Or sing the
Lumberjack Song.

I was once at a petrol station (why would you call it "gas" if it's
liquid!?!?!?) in Tennessee where the manager, a lady in her 50's,
started chatting me up (I was in my mid-20's) because she "loved my
Australian accent". When I told her that, actually, my accent was from
London, she asked me what part of Australia that was in.

So Tanya, what part of Australia are *you* from?  :-)


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On 13 March 2010 08:13, Tanya Love  wrote:
> Ok, so here's my (Aussie, which is kinda, sorta Pommie) take on it all, as
> taught to me by Thomas Van Veen at GFM...
>
> 1. Our biscuit (or "biccie") = your cookie.
> 2. Our scone (pronounced SKON, as in "he bumped his scon (aka head) on the
> door") = your biscuit.
>
> We also have this DIVINE invention that we call "choccie biccies", which are
> really a combination of #1 above, coated in chocolate.  We also like to call
> them Tim Tams, and those of you who were at GFM may remember sampling some
> that I brought  with me!
>
> Further to this, we have TWO types of "muffins" - the ones that are like a
> huge patty cake (which you call cupcakes) without icing on it (you call it
> "frosting").  And then the muffin (aka "English" in variety) that you have
> for brekkie (you call it "breakfast"), with heaps of melted butter and
> Vegemite or jam on it - oh, wait, you call it "jelly"... Doesn't matter as
> they are much better with Vegemite anyways!
>
> Which brings me to the next part of my education whilst I was in that weird
> country of yours...
>
> Our jam = your Jelly
> Our Jelly = your Jell-O
> Our lollies = your candy
> Our chewy = your "gum"
> Our maccas = your "mickie dees" (WEIRD!)
>
> I also learned that Americans think it is really weird to say that a food
> tastes "nice".  It is something I say all the time "oooh, ym, that is
> s nice!" And, everytime I said it at GFM, the American reply to me was
> raised eyebrows (or just one to those who are clever enough to possess that
> talent).  Apparently, you should only ever say that food is "good", because
> people are "nice".
>
> Oh, and you don't say "heaps" because you should say "a lot" as apparently,
> you only manure in "heaps" and you don't say "thanks heaps!" (another thing
> I say ALL the time!), but you CAN say "thanks A LOT".
>
> You also don't seem to understand it if a person says a really simple thing
> like "ta muchly", which of course translates to "thanks very much".
>
> Oh, and here's yet another straange American fact - you lot drink your
> tea COLD!! AND, like, with EVERY meal!!  See, we tend to drink WATER cold,
> and with every meal, and save the "tea" for when we are needing a nice hot
> cuppa at the end of long day - personally, I like mine with milk and oh,
> about 2 1/2 sugars, but with ice cubes, and in a glass, well that is just
> WRONG!
>
> And here's another fun fact - Americans LOVE it when Aussies (pronounced
> OZZIES!!! Very weird that you have no trouble pronouncing it when it has the
> word "Osbourne" after it), say the word "wanker".  I  must have said that
> word a thousand times whilst I was there as it seemed to entertain you
> (well, Tom) so much!  So, here it is again ... Wangka...!  Ooooh, I can hear
> the giggles now!
>
> Oh, and btw, yes, this is indeed what we call a crumpet...
>
> http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1383338/2/istockphoto_138
> 3338_toasted_english_crumpet_with_melting_butter_against_whiteon.jpg
>
> I think the strangest thing of all though, was the fact that Cotty was
> really the only one who I could understand 100% of the time!  Sad, but true!
> We also had this amazing common bond called junk food and we were both in
> heaven when we discovered how EVERYTHING in America is HUGE!!  You could
> have knocked me over with a featha (bit more Aussie twang there!), when I
> saw the MONSTER boxes of Tic Tacs!! OMG, HEAVEN!
>
> One other strange thing I learned at GFM is t

Re: K7 Manual Mode Problem (PDML Digest, Vol 47, Issue 132)

2010-03-13 Thread Dario Bonazza

Gaëtan Beauchamp wrote:


Hello everyone. Does anybody had problems with manual mode in K7? I am
experiencing some and I think that I'll have to send it to Pentax
Canada. It is impossible to trigger Tv with the front dial, it's going
up but not down. I have to use the green button to come down to the
fastest exposition. The rear dial seems to works OK.  I discoverthough
that a grip give me access to all Tv and Av settings that I want.  Is
someone experienced something similar and how to fix it if possible?
Thanks. Gaetan B.


I don't own a K-7, hence I cannot try that. However, go to the menu and 
try setting Tv on the rear dial and Av on the front one, just to check 
whether it's a hardware fault or a software bug.


If the front dial keeps working one way even when setting aperture, it's a 
hardware fault of the front dial.

Otherwise, it's a software bug.

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Re: K7 Manual Mode Problem (PDML Digest, Vol 47, Issue 132)

2010-03-13 Thread Dario Bonazza

Gaëtan Beauchamp wrote:


Hello everyone. Does anybody had problems with manual mode in K7? I am
experiencing some and I think that I'll have to send it to Pentax
Canada. It is impossible to trigger Tv with the front dial, it's going
up but not down. I have to use the green button to come down to the
fastest exposition. The rear dial seems to works OK.  I discoverthough
that a grip give me access to all Tv and Av settings that I want.  Is
someone experienced something similar and how to fix it if possible?
Thanks. Gaetan B.


I don't own a K-7, hence I cannot try that. However, go to the menu and try 
setting Tv on the rear dial and Av on the front one, just to check whether 
it's a hardware fault or a software bug.


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Re: K7 Manual Mode Problem (PDML Digest, Vol 47, Issue 132)

2010-03-13 Thread Gaëtan Beauchamp
Hello everyone. Does anybody had problems with manual mode in K7? I am
experiencing some and I think that I'll have to send it to Pentax
Canada. It is impossible to trigger Tv with the front dial, it's going
up but not down. I have to use the green button to come down to the
fastest exposition. The rear dial seems to works OK.  I discoverthough
that a grip give me access to all Tv and Av settings that I want.  Is
someone experienced something similar and how to fix it if possible?
Thanks. Gaetan B.

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Re: Santa Cruz photo outing, Sat March 27

2010-03-13 Thread Larry Colen


On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote:



Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" 
Subject: Re: Santa Cruz photo outing, Sat March 27




On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:09 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:


Larry Colen wrote:
Our plans are rather loose and dependent upon the weather and  
who  shows up, but the rough outline  is:

Leave from my house in Felton about 10AM.
Shoot for a bit, likely at a local beach.
Lunch
Go to a second location for the early to mid afternoon.
Head to Panther Beach or Davenport for late afternoon & Sunset.
Dinner
hang out at my place to process & critique shots, socialize etc.
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trying to catch all the crappy light, huh?


There is no crappy light, only crappy photographers.


And crappy photographs.

(I hope your comment about no crappy light was in jest, although I  
don't see a smiley face).



It was half in jest.  The light may be crappy to get one photo, but  
that same light may work very well for another. For me a lot of the  
fun is taking what is available in the way of light, subjects and gear  
and seeing what I can make of it. Besides, even if I don't get any  
great photos, it can be a lot of fun going out and taking pictures,  
talking shop, sharing gear and swapping lies with friends.


For mid-day sun, we'll probably head up into the redwoods, where the  
light tends to be either shade, or if there's a break in the canopy,  
you'll get light from the sky coming mostly from one direction.


Candice likes shooting at the beach at sunset, so that's where we'll  
be at sunset. I find I like Davenport a bit earlier in the day so that  
when I'm shooting the ocean it's more backlit.




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Re: PESOs New bike/Python/Henry Royce

2010-03-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
Love the mid hop catch with both feet off the ground!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:24 PM, mike wilson  wrote:
> Bought Katy a new (in fact, her first real) bike today.  She did about five
> feet and then decided that a more traditional mode of transport was better
> suited to her needs.
>
> http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8703.JPG
>
> From a few weeks ago, on a trip to a local water fall that I hoped,
> erroneously would be in flood. NEVER poke the sleeping python with a stick!
>
> http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8703.JPG
>
> From the recent Madchester PDML, Sir henry Royce's first (only?) engine.
>
> http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8692.JPG
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PESO - Goksøyr

2010-03-13 Thread AlunFoto
Another pic from this week-end's foray.

In Blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2010/03/goksyr-runde.html
Pic only: http://turl.no/8e2

Tim and I are having a great time. :-)

Jostein

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Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)

2010-03-13 Thread Dario Bonazza

Boris Liberman wrote:

Thusly, I suppose the most logical course of my action would be to acquire 
645D and then immediately go meet my creator ;-).


Feel free to plot your course, if you feel like that. On my part, I'm not in 
a hurry for neither.


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RE: PESOs New bike/Python/Henry Royce

2010-03-13 Thread Bob W
> mike wilson wrote:
> 
> Bugger.
> 
> > 
> >  From a few weeks ago, on a trip to a local water fall that 
> I hoped, 
> > erroneously would be in flood. NEVER poke the sleeping 
> python with a stick!
> 
> > http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8639.JPG

Looks like a scene from a fairy tale!



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RE: OT: Lux in moenibus fiat

2010-03-13 Thread Bob W
> 
> > Some nice footage here of beacons on Hadrian's Wall:
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8565759.stm
> 
> I found out about this about 30minutes after it started.  Curses.

Don't you mean cursus?

I would love to have taken part in that.

B


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Re: Santa Cruz photo outing, Sat March 27

2010-03-13 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen" 

Subject: Re: Santa Cruz photo outing, Sat March 27




On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:09 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:


Larry Colen wrote:
Our plans are rather loose and dependent upon the weather and who  shows 
up, but the rough outline  is:

Leave from my house in Felton about 10AM.
Shoot for a bit, likely at a local beach.
Lunch
Go to a second location for the early to mid afternoon.
Head to Panther Beach or Davenport for late afternoon & Sunset.
Dinner
hang out at my place to process & critique shots, socialize etc.
--
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trying to catch all the crappy light, huh?


There is no crappy light, only crappy photographers.


And crappy photographs.

(I hope your comment about no crappy light was in jest, although I don't see 
a smiley face). 



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RE: Freedom to film

2010-03-13 Thread Bob W
> 
> I was originally going to comment on this commendable vid
> 
> http://current.com/items/92196240_freedom-to-film.htm
> 

Good on them!

> ...then I saw this and my attention was distracted
> 
> http://current.com/items/92316846_a-cute-lamb-running-through-
> a-house.htm

Man, I hate it when that happens. Bloody springtime!



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Re: OT: Lux in moenibus fiat

2010-03-13 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:


Some nice footage here of beacons on Hadrian's Wall:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8565759.stm


I found out about this about 30minutes after it started.  Curses.

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Re: PESOs New bike/Python/Henry Royce

2010-03-13 Thread mike wilson

mike wilson wrote:

Bugger.



 From a few weeks ago, on a trip to a local water fall that I hoped, 
erroneously would be in flood. NEVER poke the sleeping python with a stick!



http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8639.JPG



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Re: PESOs New bike/Python/Henry Royce

2010-03-13 Thread P N Stenquist

What a lovely young lady. Great shot.
Paul

On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:24 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Bought Katy a new (in fact, her first real) bike today.  She did  
about five feet and then decided that a more traditional mode of  
transport was better suited to her needs.


http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8703.JPG

From a few weeks ago, on a trip to a local water fall that I hoped,  
erroneously would be in flood. NEVER poke the sleeping python with a  
stick!


http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8703.JPG

From the recent Madchester PDML, Sir henry Royce's first (only?)  
engine.


http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8692.JPG

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Re: PESO: Bogue Barn

2010-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Paul! You hit on exactly why I didn't crop it closer to the barn. In 
fact, I considered re-cropping it slightly further to the left so the tree 
wouldn't become "attached" to the left frame edge.

Jack

--- On Sat, 3/13/10, P N Stenquist  wrote:

> From: P N Stenquist 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Bogue Barn
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 11:59 AM
> I like it cropped like this.
> Definitely a worthy subject, nicely rendered.
> 
> My first instinct was to say that you ought to crop into
> the barn a bit on the left as well, but then you'd lose that
> tree. So I think you handled it just right.
> 
> Paul
> On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> > On my way home from taking care of an errand, I took a
> street (Bogue Rd) I hadn't been on for some years. I
> recorded this east facing barn and, early this AM, returned
> with some gear.
> > It's sits on an island of property surrounded by
> apartments and other commercial structures. Had to shoot
> through what we call a cyclone fence which resulted in my
> needing to heavily crop. Wanted to include the entire barn,
> but wasn't possible.
> > Without a lot of enthusiasm, am offering a portion.
> Love the detail in the orig file. I have a bit of a problem
> with the barn peak/large tree weight so near the center, but
> WTH, I had a brief moment with a camera.
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > Comments always welcome.
> > 
> > K20, DA 16~45, hand held
> > 
> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=462
> > 
> > 
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Freedom to film

2010-03-13 Thread Derby Chang


I was originally going to comment on this commendable vid

http://current.com/items/92196240_freedom-to-film.htm

...then I saw this and my attention was distracted

http://current.com/items/92316846_a-cute-lamb-running-through-a-house.htm

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Re: peso - portrait

2010-03-13 Thread Derby Chang

Sasha Sobol wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4430214904/

I am not sure about this one, need your comments and critique.

--Sasha

  


Lensbaby babe. I like it. Background is a little busy, but still



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OT: Lux in moenibus fiat

2010-03-13 Thread Bob W
Some nice footage here of beacons on Hadrian's Wall:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8565759.stm



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RE: Robin [Scanned] [Spam score:8%]

2010-03-13 Thread John Whittingham
Thanks Ann, I thought of "cloning" them out but decided against it, I'll give 
your suggestion a try, thanks.

Best regards,

John

From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele 
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Wonderfully sharp birdie and very pleasing - a perfect filed guide
photo... however... re the branches..
Yeah, a bit distracting - not the darker one, but the light one... if
you could darken that a bit I think it
would improve the shot... my eye kept going to it.  Not bad at all  in
general to have OOF branches
in the background -- pretty good Bokeh despite that.

That's a nit , of course, but since the bird is so splendid  worth fixin
I think.

ann

John Whittingham wrote:

>Thanks Paul, do you find the OoF branches distracting?
>
>Regards
>
>John
>

>
>From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul 
>stenquist [pnstenqu...@comcast.net]
>Sent: 13 March 2010 12:04
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>Subject: Re: Robin [Scanned] [Spam score:8%]
>
>Excellent shot!
>Paul
>
>On Mar 13, 2010, at 4:20 AM, John Whittingham wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hi Christine, thanks for the comment.
>>
>>I meant to post the link to the larger image, but must have forgot to copy 
>>d'oh.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>John
>>
>>From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine  
>>Aguila [cagu...@earthlink.net]
>>Sent: 13 March 2010 04:24
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Subject: Re: Robin [Scanned] [Spam score:8%]
>>
>>Wow, that's lovely, John!  Really nice.  Gosh, this list has some great bird
>>photographers.  Just FYI, you've double links below, but both are for the
>>same picture.  Cheers, Christine
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "John Whittingham" 
>>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:24 PM
>>Subject: PESO: Robin [Scanned]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Taken locally: K20D DA*300/4, comment and critique welcome:
>>>
>>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10798410
>>>
>>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10798410
>>>
>>>
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RE: PESOs New bike/Python/Henry Royce

2010-03-13 Thread Bob W
> 
> Bought Katy a new (in fact, her first real) bike today.  She 
> did about five feet and then decided that a more traditional 
> mode of transport was better suited to her needs.
> 
> http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8703.JPG
> 

Classic shot - pity about the car.

Bob

>  From a few weeks ago, on a trip to a local water fall that I 
> hoped, erroneously would be in flood. NEVER poke the sleeping 
> python with a stick!
> 
> http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8703.JPG
> 
>  From the recent Madchester PDML, Sir henry Royce's first 
> (only?) engine.
> 
> http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8692.JPG

Nothing'll ever come of it



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peso - portrait

2010-03-13 Thread Sasha Sobol
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4430214904/

I am not sure about this one, need your comments and critique.

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Re: GESO -- After the Fall (a subset)

2010-03-13 Thread Rick Womer
I like these.  Such desolation on shoreline property without a natural disaster 
is remarkable.

>From the smokestack in the first photo, I deduce that the location is near 
>Bridgeport.  Apart from that, I'm still in the dark.

Rick

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> So by popular demand...  Well Ok
> not so popular demand, Rick Wormer wanted to see more of
> these* so you can blame him.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/GESO%20--%20afterthefall.html
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
> 
> Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/various Pentax Lenses. 
> (It you want to know the lens hover the mouse over the
> picture, an information tooltip will appear.  It works
> in Firefox, I assume later versions of IE as well).
> 
> *He also wanted to know the story, which I'm still working
> on and I have high hopes that it'll be done some day "real
> soon now"..
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Re: Slightly OT - eSATA solution for Mac Pro users

2010-03-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That's a good one, Brendan! Thanks. :-)

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Brendan MacRae
 wrote:
> I have been running out room on my Mac Pro and needed to get an external 
> drive. I have one Aperture library that is nearly 500GB in size. I wanted a 
> off-the-shelf Mac drive that was inexpensive that would have fast throughput. 
> USB 2.0 and Firewire just aren't fast enough. So, I initially got an eSATA 
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> Unfortunately, either the card, the driver, or both didn't provide the 
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> than USB speeds so it turned out to be worthless to me. Luckily I found a 
> solution:
>
> http://www.newertech.com/products/esata_cable.php
>
> Not bad and it costs $19 plus shipping.
>
> Since, it turns out, the Mac Pro's made between 2006 and 2008 have two add'l 
> SATA ports on the motherboards you can install this kit and get two eSATA 
> connections on the back of your machine. What's really nice is that since 
> you're plugging into native ports on the motherboard (vs. going through a 
> card), the Mac just treats the drive just like internal storage, no drivers 
> needed. The downside, for some, is that you have to basically take your 
> machine apart to get to the ports. It requires removing the ram risers, all 
> installed cards, all hard drives, the processor cover, and the front fan 
> assembly. Sounds like an incredible pain, but really is quite simple as Mac 
> Pros are designed to be reconfigured easily.
>
> I'm running a super cheap ($159) WD My Book 1.5T drive via the eSATA 
> connection and I can now run my largest Aperture library from this drive just 
> as if it were an internal drive. You do need to turn the drive on before 
> start up, however, but the drive then turns off on its own when the system 
> shuts down.
>
> This will do until USB 3.0 becomes affordable.
>
> -Brendan
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Re: PESO: Bogue Barn

2010-03-13 Thread P N Stenquist
I like it cropped like this. Definitely a worthy subject, nicely  
rendered.


My first instinct was to say that you ought to crop into the barn a  
bit on the left as well, but then you'd lose that tree. So I think you  
handled it just right.


Paul
On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

On my way home from taking care of an errand, I took a street (Bogue  
Rd) I hadn't been on for some years. I recorded this east facing  
barn and, early this AM, returned with some gear.
It's sits on an island of property surrounded by apartments and  
other commercial structures. Had to shoot through what we call a  
cyclone fence which resulted in my needing to heavily crop. Wanted  
to include the entire barn, but wasn't possible.
Without a lot of enthusiasm, am offering a portion. Love the detail  
in the orig file. I have a bit of a problem with the barn peak/large  
tree weight so near the center, but WTH, I had a brief moment with a  
camera.


Jack

Comments always welcome.

K20, DA 16~45, hand held

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Re: PESO Shooters

2010-03-13 Thread P N Stenquist

And thanks!

6400 on K7 is respectable. Not as good as Kx or some other camera, but  
it's definitely workable.


Paul
On Mar 13, 2010, at 12:26 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:


That's fun
The 6400 is amazing... did you think about adjusting the skin tones  
at all?

I go back and forth over that when I shoot in that kind of light.
anyway, nice shot

ann
P N Stenquist wrote:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10801215&size=lg

K7, DA* 16-50/2.8, ISO 6400, f3.5 @ 1/60th, 31mm





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Re: PESO Shooters

2010-03-13 Thread P N Stenquist
I have adjusted the skin tones, but I wanted to keep them somewhat  
ruddy. The light in the pool hall is mixed, tungsten, neon and lord  
knows what else. I generally have to compromise a bit.

Paul
On Mar 13, 2010, at 12:26 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:


That's fun
The 6400 is amazing... did you think about adjusting the skin tones  
at all?

I go back and forth over that when I shoot in that kind of light.
anyway, nice shot

ann
P N Stenquist wrote:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10801215&size=lg

K7, DA* 16-50/2.8, ISO 6400, f3.5 @ 1/60th, 31mm





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Re: PESO - Fence

2010-03-13 Thread Rick Womer
Jostein, for me there's a bit too much going on in this shot.  The mood is 
nice, but then things get distracting:  the curving fence, the differently 
curving road, the mountain, the snow, the lights...  Just a little overwhelming 
for my 1952-vintage processor!

Rick

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> From: AlunFoto 
> Subject: PESO - Fence
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> Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 4:10 PM
> Another night shot. Not quite
> challenging the noise characteristics of
> the K-7 sensor, though. :-)
> 
> Blogpost: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2010/03/old-fence.html
> Direct link: http://turl.no/8dp
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RE: PESO: Bogue Barn

2010-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
Bogue Rd is in the city limits of Yuba City, CA. Yuba City is in northern CA 
prox' 40 miles north of Sacramento.
You're not alone, Chris, "spell check" has never heard of either Yuba or Bogue. 
;)

Jack

--- On Sat, 3/13/10, Chris Mitchell  wrote:

> From: Chris Mitchell 
> Subject: RE: PESO: Bogue Barn
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 11:10 AM
> Jack Davis wrote:
> > 
> > On my way home from taking care of an errand, I took a
> street (Bogue
> > Rd) I hadn't been on for some years. I recorded this
> east facing barn
> > and, early this AM, returned with some gear. 
> 
> Jack - that's a magnificent structure and you've captured
> it well in
> challenging circumstances.
> 
> Where (in the world) is Bogue Rd? Is it a heritage barn or
> still in use? 
> 
> It would be good to get permission to get behind the fence
> and take some
> detail shots.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
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RE: PESO: Bogue Barn

2010-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
Nice remarks. Thanks, Bob!

Jack

--- On Sat, 3/13/10, Bob W  wrote:

> From: Bob W 
> Subject: RE: PESO: Bogue Barn
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 10:08 AM
> > On my way home from taking care
> of an errand, I took a street 
> > (Bogue Rd) I hadn't been on for some years. I recorded
> this 
> > east facing barn and, early this AM, returned with
> some gear.
> > It's sits on an island of property surrounded by
> apartments 
> > and other commercial structures. Had to shoot through
> what we 
> > call a cyclone fence which resulted in my needing to
> heavily 
> > crop. Wanted to include the entire barn, but wasn't
> possible. 
> > Without a lot of enthusiasm, am offering a portion.
> Love the 
> > detail in the orig file. I have a bit of a problem
> with the 
> > barn peak/large tree weight so near the center, but
> WTH, I 
> > had a brief moment with a camera.
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > Comments always welcome.
> > 
> > K20, DA 16~45, hand held 
> > 
> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=462
> 
> > 
> 
> I think you've made an excellent job of it. Nice light,
> well composed. We
> see a lot of barn pictures here - this one stands out from
> the crowd for me.
> 
> Bob
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Re: PESOs New bike/Python/Henry Royce

2010-03-13 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 06:24:57PM +, mike wilson wrote:
> Bought Katy a new (in fact, her first real) bike today.  She did about  
> five feet and then decided that a more traditional mode of transport was  
> better suited to her needs.
>
> http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8703.JPG
>
> From a few weeks ago, on a trip to a local water fall that I hoped,  
> erroneously would be in flood. NEVER poke the sleeping python with a 
> stick!
>
> http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8703.JPG

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RE: PESOs New bike/Python/Henry Royce

2010-03-13 Thread Chris Mitchell
mike wilson wrote:
>  From a few weeks ago, on a trip to a local water fall that I hoped,
> erroneously would be in flood. NEVER poke the sleeping python with a
> stick!
> 
> http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8703.JPG
> 
The waterfall looks uncannily like a pink space hopper / bike substitute...

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RE: PESO: Bogue Barn

2010-03-13 Thread Chris Mitchell
Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> On my way home from taking care of an errand, I took a street (Bogue
> Rd) I hadn't been on for some years. I recorded this east facing barn
> and, early this AM, returned with some gear. 

Jack - that's a magnificent structure and you've captured it well in
challenging circumstances.

Where (in the world) is Bogue Rd? Is it a heritage barn or still in use? 

It would be good to get permission to get behind the fence and take some
detail shots.

Chris




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Re: PESOs New bike/Python/Henry Royce

2010-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling

Funny that bike looks like a balloon.

On 3/13/2010 1:24 PM, mike wilson wrote:
Bought Katy a new (in fact, her first real) bike today.  She did about 
five feet and then decided that a more traditional mode of transport 
was better suited to her needs.


http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8703.JPG

From a few weeks ago, on a trip to a local water fall that I hoped, 
erroneously would be in flood. NEVER poke the sleeping python with a 
stick!


http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8703.JPG

From the recent Madchester PDML, Sir henry Royce's first (only?) engine.

http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8692.JPG




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Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison

2010-03-13 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>
>>
>> As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of
>> photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that
>> hate strobes.
>>
>> I'm somewhere in between  :-)
>
> I know how to use it AND I hate it. Anyone who thinks the mark of a
> professional is knowing how to use artificial light knows nothing about
> photography.
>
> Bob

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which exceeds the costs incurred. This does not necessarily imply
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PESOs New bike/Python/Henry Royce

2010-03-13 Thread mike wilson
Bought Katy a new (in fact, her first real) bike today.  She did about 
five feet and then decided that a more traditional mode of transport was 
better suited to her needs.


http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8703.JPG

From a few weeks ago, on a trip to a local water fall that I hoped, 
erroneously would be in flood. NEVER poke the sleeping python with a stick!


http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8703.JPG

From the recent Madchester PDML, Sir henry Royce's first (only?) engine.

http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/IMGP8692.JPG

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RE: Look Who Woke Up Salivating

2010-03-13 Thread Bob W
> 
> With the number of laws that are now on the books, can anyone 
> legitimately 
> argue that knowing all the laws is possible?
[...]
> I doubt very strongly that anyone knows all the laws.
> Ignorance of the law is now a reality, and could certainly be 
> used as an 
> excuse.
> 

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law".
---Alisteir Crowley


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RE: PESO: Bogue Barn

2010-03-13 Thread Bob W
> On my way home from taking care of an errand, I took a street 
> (Bogue Rd) I hadn't been on for some years. I recorded this 
> east facing barn and, early this AM, returned with some gear.
> It's sits on an island of property surrounded by apartments 
> and other commercial structures. Had to shoot through what we 
> call a cyclone fence which resulted in my needing to heavily 
> crop. Wanted to include the entire barn, but wasn't possible. 
> Without a lot of enthusiasm, am offering a portion. Love the 
> detail in the orig file. I have a bit of a problem with the 
> barn peak/large tree weight so near the center, but WTH, I 
> had a brief moment with a camera.
> 
> Jack
> 
> Comments always welcome.
> 
> K20, DA 16~45, hand held 
> 
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=462 
> 

I think you've made an excellent job of it. Nice light, well composed. We
see a lot of barn pictures here - this one stands out from the crowd for me.

Bob


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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-13 Thread Bob W
 
> Gotta throw my hat into the ring here - when I was there for 
> GFM, I couldn't believe or comprehend the fact that you have 
> ORANGE cheese in America!  I had never seen orange cheese in 
> my life!  I just did not and still don't "get"
> how cheese can turn orange when it is made from white milk!  
> I guess the explanation below kind of answers the question 
> for me...  so glad I didn't eat any of that orange stuff 
> whilst I was there!  I like my cheese natural, unprocessed 
> and WITHOUT food colouring thanks!
> 

You need to go to France and Spain for strange-looking cheese, all totally
natural. One of the best I've ever had is a Spanish unpasteurised cheese
called Cabrales which matures in mountain caves full of penicillin spores.
Nice.

Or you could try a vacherin Mont d'Or, or a mimolette, which looks like an
old woman's heel and smells much the same but tastes delicious. Or a
'crottin' of anything just because crottin is a horse turd!



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PESO: Bogue Barn

2010-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
On my way home from taking care of an errand, I took a street (Bogue Rd) I 
hadn't been on for some years. I recorded this east facing barn and, early this 
AM, returned with some gear.
It's sits on an island of property surrounded by apartments and other 
commercial structures. Had to shoot through what we call a cyclone fence which 
resulted in my needing to heavily crop. Wanted to include the entire barn, but 
wasn't possible. 
Without a lot of enthusiasm, am offering a portion. Love the detail in the orig 
file. I have a bit of a problem with the barn peak/large tree weight so near 
the center, but WTH, I had a brief moment with a camera.

Jack

Comments always welcome.

K20, DA 16~45, hand held 

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=462 


  

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RE: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison

2010-03-13 Thread Bob W

> I TOTALLY agree! And this is why there are so many "pros" 
> floating around places like Facebook who boast the following:
> 
> "I am an available light photographer, who conveniently comes 
> to you or your chosen location..."
> 
> Translated to meaning - "I am a mum who bought myself a 
> camera and can take ok photos and add a vignette or two in PS 
> Elements.  Have no idea how to use flash, and can't afford to 
> buy the stuff anyways, and can't afford a studio either".
> 
> I have a real bee in my bonnet about this new "breed", don't 
> get me started!
> 

And how did you get started in this business? As I recall it was in exactly
the same way.

> 
> As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of
> photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that 
> hate strobes.
> 
> I'm somewhere in between  :-)

I know how to use it AND I hate it. Anyone who thinks the mark of a
professional is knowing how to use artificial light knows nothing about
photography.

Bob


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