Re: [Rant] - Collecting cameras as an investment
Well, I got the same email. Glanced at his website, and marked the email as junk. Just another get rich quick scammer. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: > Just had an email from some guy running a camera website. > > He wanted to tell me that he had this wonderful vintage camera site and > that he had included a link to my camera descriptions. Just asking if I > had any comments on his description of the link and if I probably had > ideas for other cross promotions. Hold on, mate... Cross promotions??? > > When I went tot his site I almost hit the roof. Vintage camera > collecting as an investment! > > http://www.vintage-camera-online.com/ > > That's why I had to give up using my Contarex after prices of spares and > accessories had gone sky-high. > > Here's what I told him: > > | Please note that I am strictly against the kind of > | camera collecting that you're promoting on your > | website. Investment... Pah! > | > | I've spent half my life battling against a bunch of rich old buggers > | with too much money on their hands, watching how the prices of > | accessories and spares for my Contarex outfit went sky-high. > | > | I had to pay a fortune for a number of things simply because > | "collectors" drive up the prices of the most simple things to > | ridiculous levels. Not that they'd ever take a single picture with > | them. > | > | In the end, I had to give up, no longer able to afford things for the > | camera I had loved *using*. > | > | Collectors? [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > | Now, be a nice guy and withdraw this link again. Thanks. > > Investment! These buggers are *investing* in Contarex tripod adaptors. > So that's why I had to pay 100 dollars for this simple piece of casting > with a 3/8" screw in it and why I've never been able to afford the 25 mm > Distagon. > > Makes one wonder if communism is really all wrong. > > Ralf > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
[Rant] - Collecting cameras as an investment
Just had an email from some guy running a camera website. He wanted to tell me that he had this wonderful vintage camera site and that he had included a link to my camera descriptions. Just asking if I had any comments on his description of the link and if I probably had ideas for other cross promotions. Hold on, mate... Cross promotions??? When I went tot his site I almost hit the roof. Vintage camera collecting as an investment! http://www.vintage-camera-online.com/ That's why I had to give up using my Contarex after prices of spares and accessories had gone sky-high. Here's what I told him: | Please note that I am strictly against the kind of | camera collecting that you're promoting on your | website. Investment... Pah! | | I've spent half my life battling against a bunch of rich old buggers | with too much money on their hands, watching how the prices of | accessories and spares for my Contarex outfit went sky-high. | | I had to pay a fortune for a number of things simply because | "collectors" drive up the prices of the most simple things to | ridiculous levels. Not that they'd ever take a single picture with | them. | | In the end, I had to give up, no longer able to afford things for the | camera I had loved *using*. | | Collectors? [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Now, be a nice guy and withdraw this link again. Thanks. Investment! These buggers are *investing* in Contarex tripod adaptors. So that's why I had to pay 100 dollars for this simple piece of casting with a 3/8" screw in it and why I've never been able to afford the 25 mm Distagon. Makes one wonder if communism is really all wrong. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NOW: Collecting Cameras WAS: Death Of An MX
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:10:15 -0800, Jim Apilado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My first four cameras were an Argus C-3, Honeywell Pentax H-3, Yashica Mat, > and a black Minolta 16. I still have the H-3 and the Minolta 16. Wish I > still had my original C-3. > Because of the rangefinder C-3, I got interested in owning rangefinder > Leicas. I still own my original Leica IIIf. > Hey, Jim, you don't have any extra film cassettes hanging around for that Minolta 16, to you? Just curious... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: NOW: Collecting Cameras WAS: Death Of An MX
My first four cameras were an Argus C-3, Honeywell Pentax H-3, Yashica Mat, and a black Minolta 16. I still have the H-3 and the Minolta 16. Wish I still had my original C-3. Because of the rangefinder C-3, I got interested in owning rangefinder Leicas. I still own my original Leica IIIf. Jim A. > From: "David Chang-Sang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:39:26 -0500 > To: > Subject: NOW: Collecting Cameras WAS: Death Of An MX > Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:34:39 -0500 > > I had given some thought to this.. and what with the "impending death of > film" *snort*.. I thought it woudl be "neat" to collect some film cameras > that I have used or enjoyed using in the past and displaying them as > suggested many times over on the list.. in a cabinet. > > I have, currently, what I consider to be 4 "classic" cameras that can all > still be used with film. My Canonet QL 17 GIII, Olympus XA, Contax T2, and > the K1000 - all in relatively "good" condition and quite useable. > > I was wondering if anyone else has thought of this or done it and if so.. > what have you got waiting to be, or being, displayed at your place? > > Curious as always, > Dave > > >> -Original Message- >> From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:47 AM >> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >> Subject: [pdml] Re: Death of a MX > >> >> If worse comes to worse, your black MX will look quite lovely on a >> shelf or in a glass cabinet. >> >> cheers, >> frank > >> -- > >
Re: NOW: Collecting Cameras WAS: Death Of An MX
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:39:26 -0500, David Chang-Sang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had given some thought to this.. and what with the "impending death of > film" *snort*.. I thought it woudl be "neat" to collect some film cameras > that I have used or enjoyed using in the past and displaying them as > suggested many times over on the list.. in a cabinet. > > I have, currently, what I consider to be 4 "classic" cameras that can all > still be used with film. My Canonet QL 17 GIII, Olympus XA, Contax T2, and > the K1000 - all in relatively "good" condition and quite useable. > > I was wondering if anyone else has thought of this or done it and if so.. > what have you got waiting to be, or being, displayed at your place? > > Curious as always, > Dave Before I moved to my current location, I had displayed my father's old Yashica A tlr (shutter's pooched), and old Voigtlander Vito II (35mm, f2.8 50mm lens, scale focusing - no rangefinder) and a Minolta 16mm "spy camera" - I think it was a 16II - for which I can't find a cassette to wind with 16mm film. So, those three were sitting atop an old 1940's vintage RCA radio - still works, but I don't use it so as not to vapourize what looks like a very dry speaker cone. The radio cabinet is huge, like around 4 feet high - it's like an art deco piece of furniture. What else could I display? I guess my Yashica Electro 35, a couple of Minolta HiMatic F's that I never use. My old worn brassed black Spotmatic SP whose shutter is either gone or needs a good CLA. I still use my other two Spotties and my Yashica Mat, along with the MX, LX and Leica CL, so even though the newest of my users is about 20 years old and the oldes is 45, they're not ready to put on the shelf yet. As to where I'll display them - haven't decided yet. Probably not until I get my own place anyway (I'm sharing a house now). cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: NOW: Collecting Cameras WAS: Death Of An MX
On 30 Jan 2005 at 12:39, David Chang-Sang wrote: > I had given some thought to this.. and what with the "impending death of > film" *snort*.. I thought it woudl be "neat" to collect some film cameras > that I have used or enjoyed using in the past and displaying them as > suggested many times over on the list.. in a cabinet. > I was wondering if anyone else has thought of this or done it and if so.. > what have you got waiting to be, or being, displayed at your place? Done it long ago, tasteful T-halide illuminated Ikea wall mounted cabinet containing folders, an ancient MX and other assorted SLRs and RF bodies and some nice old glass, Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 58/1.2 for example. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: Collecting Cameras WAS: Death Of An MX
David, I actually did what you did, not too long ago... Then I just gave up. It's just not so practical... I used to have Pentax LX*2 ME Super, Program Plus, Auto 110, Canon Canonet, Konica S2, Yashica Electro35GT, Yashica Flasher, Contax T3. Some of them are classics and all of them in excellent working order. But I then sold most of them. Because I just don't use them all and I feel sorry for them just sitting there... because I really just like using LX and DS I actually prefer collecting Pentax lenses... I can use them in rotation. Andy -Original Message- From: David Chang-Sang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:39 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: NOW: Collecting Cameras WAS: Death Of An MX I had given some thought to this.. and what with the "impending death of film" *snort*.. I thought it woudl be "neat" to collect some film cameras that I have used or enjoyed using in the past and displaying them as suggested many times over on the list.. in a cabinet. I have, currently, what I consider to be 4 "classic" cameras that can all still be used with film. My Canonet QL 17 GIII, Olympus XA, Contax T2, and the K1000 - all in relatively "good" condition and quite useable. I was wondering if anyone else has thought of this or done it and if so.. what have you got waiting to be, or being, displayed at your place? Curious as always, Dave > -Original Message- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:47 AM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: [pdml] Re: Death of a MX > > If worse comes to worse, your black MX will look quite lovely on a > shelf or in a glass cabinet. > > cheers, > frank > --
NOW: Collecting Cameras WAS: Death Of An MX
I had given some thought to this.. and what with the "impending death of film" *snort*.. I thought it woudl be "neat" to collect some film cameras that I have used or enjoyed using in the past and displaying them as suggested many times over on the list.. in a cabinet. I have, currently, what I consider to be 4 "classic" cameras that can all still be used with film. My Canonet QL 17 GIII, Olympus XA, Contax T2, and the K1000 - all in relatively "good" condition and quite useable. I was wondering if anyone else has thought of this or done it and if so.. what have you got waiting to be, or being, displayed at your place? Curious as always, Dave > -Original Message- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:47 AM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: [pdml] Re: Death of a MX > > If worse comes to worse, your black MX will look quite lovely on a > shelf or in a glass cabinet. > > cheers, > frank > --
Re: Collecting cameras
Camera-collecting has been a hobby for me lo, these many years. The whole collection can be seen at http://www2.acorn.net/~aa197/camcoll.htm if interested. A Pentax Spotmatic is one of the users, and I have an aftermarket screwmount bellows which is a lot of fun for macro stuff. My favorite is a Miniature Speed Graphic (one of 3 SGs) which uses 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 cut film (still available!). Let's go offline for any general discussions of collecting, however (do as I say, not as I do). Cal Clifford GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Collecting cameras
> BTW, who many of you pentax users out there collect cameras > as well as use them? I've been buying all sorts of cameras > over the last twenty years... > JCO I swore I wasn't going to collect cameras the way I collected computers (Apple stuff), model trains (Triang), cars (all things Mini) and scale models (Airfix). Then I weakened and bought an Auto 110, and then an Auto 110 Super kit. I think I have almost got over it though - I passed up the 70mm and the zoom for good prices. I slipped a bit recently with MX stuff (who on earth really needs a 250 shot back???), but then decided I needed car and house insurance more than I needed a motordrive MX, so I think I'm recovering. The weidest ones though are the 500f5 and Spotmeter K. I've bought better replacements (SMC 500f4.5 and digital Spotmeter) but am holding onto the originals because "I might decide to start collecting", in which case I would have trouble getting them again. That's how the Apple collecting started - I had a Lisa and an original 128k Mac and realised that this was an excellent foundation for a collection of macintoshes (which now takes up one wall of the garage.) All of the other Pentax stuff is meant to be used, even if it isn't very often. Same thing goes for the 6x9 rangefinder, and the 4x5 gear which is all at least 40 years old. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Collecting cameras
I collect cameras in a squirrelly sort of fashion. I kept buying MXs because I liked them, then I realised I couldn't possibly use them all so now I only have 3. When I got the black MX then I just had to have the black ME Super. And of course what goes with a black MX and an LX? Yep, a black KX. I am a random impulse buyer. My only real collection is of Kershaw folders, which of course includes the obligatory 110, penguin and king penguin. Still looking for a Raven - so if anyone knows of one for sale. Wendy --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Collecting cameras
Hi I don't really collect cameras - I try to sell those that I don't use (for economic reasons) - but I still have 10 SLR's (35mm, 6x6, 6x7) (6 Pentax) and some 35mm and 6x9 rangefinders. I sertainly don't want cameras that don't work. I once got a Kodak baby brownie in original box w. a flash for 2$ at a flee market! I had a complete Topcon outfit for some time, but I let it go to help finance a trip to South Africa (No point in having many nice cameras, if you can't afford to travel/use them). Unfortunately I don't have a Spotmatic, but I guess a nice one will come my way some day. I think my nicest (beautiful manufacturing) cameras are the K1000 and my latest, the 67. I'd still like to have a nice Spotmatic, though! Regards Jens - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Collecting cameras
I've considered myself a camera collector since I discovered a couple of old Argus C-3's in Binghamton, NY antique shops 15 years ago. I've bought and sold or traded many cameras since then, following my interests, what struck my fancy, and also what finds I "lucked" into. I'm definitely a user/collector, as a camera that no longer works and isn't worth fixing (or, for that matter, cameras that take obselete film formats) isn't attractive to me. I love handling and playing with many of these fine examples of aesthetics, precision machinery and glass, but actually carrying them around, ~using~ them, is the ultimate reason for having them. Six years ago, I first put up a Web page dedicated to my camera collecting "philosophy" at http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages/wilensky/camera.htm and it's due for some updating, but still reflects my approach. I found Pentax cameras to be perhaps the ultimate collectible, largely because of the backwards compatibility and nearly straight lines of descendancy (in the hand, the compact, beautiful ME Super paired with an SMC-M 50/1.7 lens truly feels like a grandchild of a meterless H2 with one of the small Auto-Takumar lenses, for instance). But I also appreciate American cameras (the wonderfully Art Deco original Argus Model A, the curved ends of the Argus Markfinder, the Kodak Signet); my Leica IIIc/f feels, in operation, like nothing else I own; I've had several Kodak Retinas, currently holding onto a IIa; I have a Kodak Stereo 35 camera that takes modern slide film but essentially gives me a completely new format in three dimensions; and compact rangefinders from the '70s definitely deserve their own cult -- and have them! Joe RE: > > > > Subject: Re: Whats your most used Camera? >> > > >> > > >> > > I have only two cameras a LX and MX. >> > > >> > > The LX is by far my most used camera. >> > > >> > > Christian >> > >> > Only 2? I have about 50. >> > >> >> 50 ?!! Wow! :) Do you have even more lenses ? > >Yeah I have at least 60 SLR lenses if you count m42, >K mounts, and 6X7. All my other cameras are fixed >mount lenses except for a screwmount Canon rangefinder >I picked up about 10 yrs ago. > >I used to have even more but I sold off about >25 "ugly" cheap cameras about 5 yrs ago. I really enjoy >buying and using many different cameras. Nearly all >of my cameras are fully functional. >JCO - - -- Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Media and Technology Services - Cornell University 1150 Comstock Hall Ithaca, NY 14853-0901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873 Please visit our Web site at http://www.mediasrv.cornell.edu - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Collecting cameras
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:51 AM Subject: Collecting cameras My most used camera next to my trusty SPF, had to be my old Kodak 128(!), it was my first camera, bought it about 1960/61. I used it most days until about 1971. Then I bought my first SLR, a Minolta SRT-101, which lasted only 8 months (R.I.P.), after a terminal swim in the Indian Ocean. I bought my SPF in 1973, and still use it I have 3 Spotmatic F's, 1 Spotmatic 500, 1 Spotmatic SP, 2 ME's, 1 MES and a Recoh KR-10 with motor-drive and Nikon Photomic FTn. I find I'm using an SPF, SP, SP500, and KR-10 equally, and the ME's and MES almost daily with semi-permanent Vivitar Zoom or Telephoto lenses. I'm awaiting a couple of Russian Range-finder cameras I bought through Ebay, a Zorki-4 and a FED 2. I'm intending use them for B&W Portrait work, and to buy a Jupiter or Helios 85mm/f2, 85mm/f1.5, and possibly a 100mm and 135mm lenses. I also intend to buy a new Kiev 88 MF camera and lenses by the end of the year. James (User or Collector, which comes first, the chicken or the egg?) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Collecting cameras
I started my collecting in late Sixties with the Leica IIIf. I've got a few Leicas, my favorite being the IIIg. I also have a Hassy 1600, the original Hasselblad that still functions. I still own a Pentax H3 that I received for a college graduation gift. I really love my ES and ESII cameras. I probably will unload most of my Leica stuff in the fall. Jim A. > From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:51:34 -0400 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Collecting cameras - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Collecting cameras
My "users": MX, MV, 3 Spotmatics, Yashica Mat, Yashica Electro 35, Minolta HiMatic F My "collectors": Yashica A, Minolta 16II, Voigtlander Vito Automatic I, Kodak Brownie Starflash My collectors aren't collectors because they're worth anything. Quite the contrary. The A was my father's, and needs a shutter repair, which will probably never get done; I'm keeping it for nostalgia's sake. The Minolta 16 was a $10 eBay purchase, but the film cassettes are next to impossible to get, or too expensive when you find them - so I just think it's a cool little trinket. The Voigtlander would probably work if I put film in it, but the light meter is pooched, so again, it's just a cool looking piece. The Brownie was my first camera, so again, nostalgia. Collectively, they're worth about zip, but they are on a shelf, and make good conversation pieces. regards, frank "J. C. O'Connell" wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Skofteland > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:44 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Whats your most used Camera? > > > > > > I have only two cameras a LX and MX. > > > > The LX is by far my most used camera. > > > > Christian > > Only 2? I have about 50. > > BTW, who many of you pentax users out there collect cameras > as well as use them? I've been buying all sorts of cameras > over the last twenty years... > JCO > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Collecting cameras
Actually, 3. I forgot the Spotmatic II which was bought more for Pentax history than anything else. I also have an Auto110 and an IQ Zoom 120 but didn't include them. Christian On Friday 12 April 2002 10:51, JCO wrote: > > Only 2? I have about 50. > > BTW, who many of you pentax users out there collect cameras > as well as use them? I've been buying all sorts of cameras > over the last twenty years... > JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Collecting cameras
> Only 2? I have about 50. > > BTW, who many of you pentax users out there collect cameras > as well as use them? I've been buying all sorts of cameras > over the last twenty years... > JCO You Braggart and Idol! Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 10:51:34AM -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Skofteland > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:44 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Whats your most used Camera? > > > > > > I have only two cameras a LX and MX. > > > > The LX is by far my most used camera. > > > > Christian > > Only 2? I have about 50. > 50 ?!! Wow! :) Do you have even more lenses ? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Collecting cameras
Don't you have to collect 'em in order to use 'em? "J. C. O'Connell" wrote: > > BTW, who many of you pentax users out there collect cameras > as well as use them? Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Collecting cameras
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Skofteland > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:44 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Whats your most used Camera? > > > I have only two cameras a LX and MX. > > The LX is by far my most used camera. > > Christian Only 2? I have about 50. BTW, who many of you pentax users out there collect cameras as well as use them? I've been buying all sorts of cameras over the last twenty years... JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
