Re: PESO - Common Ground
Thanks Boris. I struggled for a name. In the end I chose the name because I felt the two-dimensional trees present a single common face to the viewer and because beneath the surface they are growing in 'common ground', likely roots interwined. Goofy? Possibly/Probably. :-) Tom C. >From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: PESO - Common Ground >Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:30:55 +0200 > >Tom, it is a very nice picture, but could you please explain why you >chose these two words for the title? > >Thanks. > >Tom C wrote: > > Well, perfect weather today at home, but the inversion had the fog > > suppressed even lower than yesterday. Driving into town I knew I'd be >very > > late for work. Driving along the highway conditions were great except >for > > the background human clutter. I took a detour to a country club golf >course > > and walked on the grounds. > > > > This the first of hopefully many that are useable from this morning. >Curves > > adjusted, small crop, conversion to gray scale. I have a hard time >picking > > between the slightly color tinged color version and the gray scale >version > > presented here. > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > > > It was one of those days that produced a photographer's high. I could >have > > stayed as long as the conditions lasted... work is always there. > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
Tom, it is a very nice picture, but could you please explain why you chose these two words for the title? Thanks. Tom C wrote: > Well, perfect weather today at home, but the inversion had the fog > suppressed even lower than yesterday. Driving into town I knew I'd be very > late for work. Driving along the highway conditions were great except for > the background human clutter. I took a detour to a country club golf course > and walked on the grounds. > > This the first of hopefully many that are useable from this morning. Curves > adjusted, small crop, conversion to gray scale. I have a hard time picking > between the slightly color tinged color version and the gray scale version > presented here. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > It was one of those days that produced a photographer's high. I could have > stayed as long as the conditions lasted... work is always there. > > > Tom C. > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground V2
Thanks I appreciate the feedback. Of course they are totally different in feel and mood, necessarily and intentionally. :-) Tom C. >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: PESO - Common Ground V2 >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:02:11 + > >Much better. Stil not nearly the equal of the pic you posted a couple of >days earlier, but I like it. >Paul > -- Original message -- >From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >----- Original Message - > > >From: "Tom C" > > >Subject: PESO - Common Ground V2 > > > > > > > > > > OK. In a nod to both Mr. Robb and Ms. Sanfedele (hahaha) I adjusted >the > > > > contrast and reframed the photo with a somewhat narrower med/dark >gray > > > > frame. > > > > > > > > New version: > > > > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5596946&size=lg > > > > > > > > Original Version: > > > > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > > > > > > > Comments and critiques appreciated. > > > > > > > > Keep in mind that what I and the camera saw was not a crystal clear > > >scene > > > > because of the fog. The image is meant to be soft and moody, like >me. > > >:-) > > > > > > > > >I think you've pushed it too far in the direction of murkiness. > > >Did you make the adjustment with levels or curves? > > > > > >William Robb > > > > > > > Yes, curves. Maybe it's all a matter of taste. The problem I am having >is > > that when I get the contrast I *think* I want, I also get more noise >than I > > desire. > > > > The photo works pretty well as a sepia tone. > > > > My eyes seem to tell me that both your version and my new version have > > similar contrast, but mine is a higher key than your rendering. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground V2
Much better. Stil not nearly the equal of the pic you posted a couple of days earlier, but I like it. Paul -- Original message -- From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Tom C" > >Subject: PESO - Common Ground V2 > > > > > > > OK. In a nod to both Mr. Robb and Ms. Sanfedele (hahaha) I adjusted the > > > contrast and reframed the photo with a somewhat narrower med/dark gray > > > frame. > > > > > > New version: > > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5596946&size=lg > > > > > > Original Version: > > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > > > > > Comments and critiques appreciated. > > > > > > Keep in mind that what I and the camera saw was not a crystal clear > >scene > > > because of the fog. The image is meant to be soft and moody, like me. > >:-) > > > > > >I think you've pushed it too far in the direction of murkiness. > >Did you make the adjustment with levels or curves? > > > >William Robb > > > > Yes, curves. Maybe it's all a matter of taste. The problem I am having is > that when I get the contrast I *think* I want, I also get more noise than I > desire. > > The photo works pretty well as a sepia tone. > > My eyes seem to tell me that both your version and my new version have > similar contrast, but mine is a higher key than your rendering. > > Tom > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground V2
> >- Original Message - >From: "Tom C" >Subject: PESO - Common Ground V2 > > > > OK. In a nod to both Mr. Robb and Ms. Sanfedele (hahaha) I adjusted the > > contrast and reframed the photo with a somewhat narrower med/dark gray > > frame. > > > > New version: > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5596946&size=lg > > > > Original Version: > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > > > Comments and critiques appreciated. > > > > Keep in mind that what I and the camera saw was not a crystal clear >scene > > because of the fog. The image is meant to be soft and moody, like me. >:-) > > >I think you've pushed it too far in the direction of murkiness. >Did you make the adjustment with levels or curves? > >William Robb > Yes, curves. Maybe it's all a matter of taste. The problem I am having is that when I get the contrast I *think* I want, I also get more noise than I desire. The photo works pretty well as a sepia tone. My eyes seem to tell me that both your version and my new version have similar contrast, but mine is a higher key than your rendering. Tom -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground V2
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: PESO - Common Ground V2 > OK. In a nod to both Mr. Robb and Ms. Sanfedele (hahaha) I adjusted the > contrast and reframed the photo with a somewhat narrower med/dark gray > frame. > > New version: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5596946&size=lg > > Original Version: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > Comments and critiques appreciated. > > Keep in mind that what I and the camera saw was not a crystal clear scene > because of the fog. The image is meant to be soft and moody, like me. :-) I think you've pushed it too far in the direction of murkiness. Did you make the adjustment with levels or curves? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
Btw, thanks Bill. I think I went even slightly farther in lightening the overall tone, but increasing contrast a bit. Tom C. >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: PESO - Common Ground >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:47:38 -0600 > > >- Original Message - >From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:29 PM >Subject: Re: PESO - Common Ground > > > > Fog. :-) > > >http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/5592477.html > > >William Robb > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Common Ground V2
OK. In a nod to both Mr. Robb and Ms. Sanfedele (hahaha) I adjusted the contrast and reframed the photo with a somewhat narrower med/dark gray frame. New version: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5596946&size=lg Original Version: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg Comments and critiques appreciated. Keep in mind that what I and the camera saw was not a crystal clear scene because of the fog. The image is meant to be soft and moody, like me. :-) Tom C. >From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: PESO - Common Ground >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:37:07 -0500 > >Tom, this one doesn't work so well for me -- if I didn't know of your >past accomplishments perhaps I'd just not bother to comment. > I love days like that, myself, but somehow this image lacks strength. > >I think too that you are doing your best photos a disservice by making a >bit too elaborate a frame around them . >I'd like to see either the whole page black or a narrower black and >whiteline frame. in the case of Common Ground, >as it is a photo of such low contrast, the high contrast of the frame is >distracting. > >ann > >Tom C wrote: > > >Well, perfect weather today at home, but the inversion had the fog > >suppressed even lower than yesterday. Driving into town I knew I'd be >very > >late for work. Driving along the highway conditions were great except >for > >the background human clutter. I took a detour to a country club golf >course > >and walked on the grounds. > > > >This the first of hopefully many that are useable from this morning. >Curves > >adjusted, small crop, conversion to gray scale. I have a hard time >picking > >between the slightly color tinged color version and the gray scale >version > >presented here. > > > >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > > >It was one of those days that produced a photographer's high. I could >have > >stayed as long as the conditions lasted... work is always there. > > > > > >Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
In a message dated 2/13/2007 11:46:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg It was one of those days that produced a photographer's high. I could have stayed as long as the conditions lasted... work is always there. Tom C. === While I don't think it is as nearly as nice as the last fog one, it still has something. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
Kinda goes with the territory, doesn't it? :-) On Feb 13, 2007, at 7:29 PM, Tom C wrote: > Fog. :-) > > > > Tom C. > > > >> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Subject: Re: PESO - Common Ground >> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:57:14 -0600 >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Tom C" >> Subject: PESO - Common Ground >> >> >> >>> >>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg >>> >> >> Flat. Sucky contrast. >> >> William Robb >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:29 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Common Ground > Fog. :-) http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/5592477.html William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
Hmmm... Thanks for the suggestion. Not sure I'll take it. :-) I'm working on changing the contrast and may present a better version. This was, of course, a low contrast image to begin with... Tom C. >From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: PESO - Common Ground >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:37:07 -0500 > >Tom, this one doesn't work so well for me -- if I didn't know of your >past accomplishments perhaps I'd just not bother to comment. > I love days like that, myself, but somehow this image lacks strength. > >I think too that you are doing your best photos a disservice by making a >bit too elaborate a frame around them . >I'd like to see either the whole page black or a narrower black and >whiteline frame. in the case of Common Ground, >as it is a photo of such low contrast, the high contrast of the frame is >distracting. > >ann > >Tom C wrote: > > >Well, perfect weather today at home, but the inversion had the fog > >suppressed even lower than yesterday. Driving into town I knew I'd be >very > >late for work. Driving along the highway conditions were great except >for > >the background human clutter. I took a detour to a country club golf >course > >and walked on the grounds. > > > >This the first of hopefully many that are useable from this morning. >Curves > >adjusted, small crop, conversion to gray scale. I have a hard time >picking > >between the slightly color tinged color version and the gray scale >version > >presented here. > > > >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > > >It was one of those days that produced a photographer's high. I could >have > >stayed as long as the conditions lasted... work is always there. > > > > > >Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
I'll probably play with it some more... I just messed with it and came up with a version I like better. Thanks for the suggestion. Tom C. > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > > >Flat. Sucky contrast. > >William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
Tom, this one doesn't work so well for me -- if I didn't know of your past accomplishments perhaps I'd just not bother to comment. I love days like that, myself, but somehow this image lacks strength. I think too that you are doing your best photos a disservice by making a bit too elaborate a frame around them . I'd like to see either the whole page black or a narrower black and whiteline frame. in the case of Common Ground, as it is a photo of such low contrast, the high contrast of the frame is distracting. ann Tom C wrote: >Well, perfect weather today at home, but the inversion had the fog >suppressed even lower than yesterday. Driving into town I knew I'd be very >late for work. Driving along the highway conditions were great except for >the background human clutter. I took a detour to a country club golf course >and walked on the grounds. > >This the first of hopefully many that are useable from this morning. Curves >adjusted, small crop, conversion to gray scale. I have a hard time picking >between the slightly color tinged color version and the gray scale version >presented here. > >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > >It was one of those days that produced a photographer's high. I could have >stayed as long as the conditions lasted... work is always there. > > >Tom C. > > > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
Fog. :-) Tom C. >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: PESO - Common Ground >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:57:14 -0600 > > >- Original Message - >From: "Tom C" >Subject: PESO - Common Ground > > > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > > >Flat. Sucky contrast. > >William Robb > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: PESO - Common Ground > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > Flat. Sucky contrast. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
Great shot. Very Tim Burton Dave On 2/13/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, perfect weather today at home, but the inversion had the fog > suppressed even lower than yesterday. Driving into town I knew I'd be very > late for work. Driving along the highway conditions were great except for > the background human clutter. I took a detour to a country club golf course > and walked on the grounds. > > This the first of hopefully many that are useable from this morning. Curves > adjusted, small crop, conversion to gray scale. I have a hard time picking > between the slightly color tinged color version and the gray scale version > presented here. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > It was one of those days that produced a photographer's high. I could have > stayed as long as the conditions lasted... work is always there. > > > Tom C. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
Thanks alot Eric. Tom C. >From: "Eric Featherstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: PESO - Common Ground >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:47:09 + > >On 13/02/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, perfect weather today at home, but the inversion had the fog > > suppressed even lower than yesterday. Driving into town I knew I'd be >very > > late for work. Driving along the highway conditions were great except >for > > the background human clutter. I took a detour to a country club golf >course > > and walked on the grounds. > > > > This the first of hopefully many that are useable from this morning. >Curves > > adjusted, small crop, conversion to gray scale. I have a hard time >picking > > between the slightly color tinged color version and the gray scale >version > > presented here. > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > > > It was one of those days that produced a photographer's high. I could >have > > stayed as long as the conditions lasted... work is always there. > >Tom, very nice (as was inversions - I didn't get time to comment on it >separately.) > >Cheers, >Eric. > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
On 13/02/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, perfect weather today at home, but the inversion had the fog > suppressed even lower than yesterday. Driving into town I knew I'd be very > late for work. Driving along the highway conditions were great except for > the background human clutter. I took a detour to a country club golf course > and walked on the grounds. > > This the first of hopefully many that are useable from this morning. Curves > adjusted, small crop, conversion to gray scale. I have a hard time picking > between the slightly color tinged color version and the gray scale version > presented here. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > It was one of those days that produced a photographer's high. I could have > stayed as long as the conditions lasted... work is always there. Tom, very nice (as was inversions - I didn't get time to comment on it separately.) Cheers, Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
Thanks Paul. Tom C. >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: PESO - Common Ground >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:56:17 + > >Nice, moody, evocative. The nearly full frame works well here. >Paul > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > > > > > Tom C. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Common Ground
Nice, moody, evocative. The nearly full frame works well here. Paul -- Original message -- From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Well, perfect weather today at home, but the inversion had the fog > suppressed even lower than yesterday. Driving into town I knew I'd be very > late for work. Driving along the highway conditions were great except for > the background human clutter. I took a detour to a country club golf course > and walked on the grounds. > > This the first of hopefully many that are useable from this morning. Curves > adjusted, small crop, conversion to gray scale. I have a hard time picking > between the slightly color tinged color version and the gray scale version > presented here. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg > > It was one of those days that produced a photographer's high. I could have > stayed as long as the conditions lasted... work is always there. > > > Tom C. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Common Ground
Well, perfect weather today at home, but the inversion had the fog suppressed even lower than yesterday. Driving into town I knew I'd be very late for work. Driving along the highway conditions were great except for the background human clutter. I took a detour to a country club golf course and walked on the grounds. This the first of hopefully many that are useable from this morning. Curves adjusted, small crop, conversion to gray scale. I have a hard time picking between the slightly color tinged color version and the gray scale version presented here. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5592477&size=lg It was one of those days that produced a photographer's high. I could have stayed as long as the conditions lasted... work is always there. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
