Re: re-enabled 77 back from CRIS

[P.J. Alling]

On 6/7/2013 3:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

My FA77 returned home from CRIS last night.  The focus ring is no longer
wobbly.  Repairs were only $74 plus shipping.

I'm happy.  I missed it.  And somehow, I resisted the impusle to buy an
85/1.4 while the 77 was off on it's roadtrip.

That was admirable self restraint...

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re-enabled 77 back from CRIS

[Larry Colen]

My FA77 returned home from CRIS last night.  The focus ring is no longer
wobbly.  Repairs were only $74 plus shipping.

I'm happy.  I missed it.  And somehow, I resisted the impusle to buy an
85/1.4 while the 77 was off on it's roadtrip.


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Re: enabled again

[Collin Brendemuehl]

>Collin, have you used the DA* 16-50/2.8 or the DA* 50-135/2.8? Just
curious.

Have not.  Would love to.
But I've also seen the price tags.
Although I could sell the 28/35/50 and come close to a break-even on the
16-50.


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Re: enabled again

[Bruce Walker]

Collin, have you used the DA* 16-50/2.8 or the DA* 50-135/2.8? Just curious.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:
> On its way soon ...
> FA35/2.
> That makes my lenses just primes -- FA28/2.8, FA35/2, FA50/1.4, A50/2.8
> Macro, and M*300/4.
> I've tried zooms, including some good ones.  The convenience is nice, but
> they have never satisfied me.
> Perhaps I just need to get a really good one.
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Re: Enabled. 540FGZ

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-07-13 3:31 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:


I second that. Lots of features, non-obvious UI. Work great when you figure 'em 
out though.

Work great when you figure them out, and you want to do something that Pentax 
thought you should do. Good luck if you ever want to shoot in manual mode 
though.


Manual mode is what I do mostly with them. They work predictably and 
consistently that way, for me. More than one and P-TTL is pretty much 
useless.


BTW: I cleaned all the battery contacts with a contact cleaner last 
night and some random trouble I was having went away. Used a q-tip to 
reach the bottom of the battery compartment.


-bmw

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Re: Enabled. 540FGZ

[Larry Colen]

On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

> I second that. Lots of features, non-obvious UI. Work great when you figure 
> 'em out though.

Work great when you figure them out, and you want to do something that Pentax 
thought you should do. Good luck if you ever want to shoot in manual mode 
though.


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Re: Enabled. 540FGZ

[Christine Aguila]

Congrats!  I hope to step up to the 540 some day.  Still using the 360 
myself.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: Enabled. 540FGZ


Just recently got a 2nd hand unit. Looks very clean with no sign of use. 
Only have its smaller brother prevously. Finally able to take some larger 
flash photos where the 360 was short on power.


James



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Re: Enabled. 540FGZ

[Bruce Walker]

I second that. Lots of features, non-obvious UI. Work great when you 
figure 'em out though.


Also, give all the contacts (eg inside the battery compartment) a good 
cleaning. My 540's have been acting up lately and I found I had to clean 
off the battery contacts thoroughly to fix that. Batteries too.


-bmw


On 11-07-11 11:02 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

James,
You'll have to give it a workout to understand all the features.
I bought one several years ago and still need the manual.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:39 AM, sky  wrote:

Just recently got a 2nd hand unit. Looks very clean with no sign of use. Only 
have its smaller brother prevously. Finally able to take some larger flash 
photos where the 360 was short on power.

James



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Re: Enabled. 540FGZ

[Bob Sullivan]

James,
You'll have to give it a workout to understand all the features.
I bought one several years ago and still need the manual.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:39 AM, sky  wrote:
> Just recently got a 2nd hand unit. Looks very clean with no sign of use. Only 
> have its smaller brother prevously. Finally able to take some larger flash 
> photos where the 360 was short on power.
>
> James
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Re: Enabled sigma 80-200 2.8 APO DG HSM EX

[Thibouille]

If I remember correctly as for the Sigma 70-200/2.8, here are the
different modern versions:

- 70-200/2.8 EX DG
- 70-200/2.8 EX DG Macro II (a bit less good than the former)
- 70-200/2.8 EX DG Macro HSM (which really wasn't HSM in its Pentax
version but often refered as being HSM in shops)
- 70-200/2.8 EX DG Macro HSM II (indeed HSM in Pentax version this time)
- 70-200/2.8 DG Macro HSM OS (why not EX, I dunno but OS means
internal stabilization like Canon IS).

2011/6/9 Ecke PDML :
> Great! short for EXcellent maybe =)
>
> 2011/6/9 Boris Liberman :
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Ecke PDML  
>> wrote:
>>> I believe though that there is a pro grade and a consumer grade
>>> version but I have no idea which letter soup denotes which... --
>>
>> If I grok sigma letter soup rightly, EX means pro grade all the way through.
>>
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Re: Enabled sigma 80-200 2.8 APO DG HSM EX

[Ecke PDML]

Great! short for EXcellent maybe =)

2011/6/9 Boris Liberman :
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Ecke PDML  
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>> I believe though that there is a pro grade and a consumer grade
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> If I grok sigma letter soup rightly, EX means pro grade all the way through.
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Re: Enabled sigma 80-200 2.8 APO DG HSM EX

[Boris Liberman]

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Ecke PDML  wrote:
> I believe though that there is a pro grade and a consumer grade
> version but I have no idea which letter soup denotes which... --

If I grok sigma letter soup rightly, EX means pro grade all the way through.

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Re: Enabled sigma 80-200 2.8 APO DG HSM EX

[Ecke PDML]

if it says II it is the newer version which I guess is usually good =)

I believe though that there is a pro grade and a consumer grade
version but I have no idea which letter soup denotes which... I am
saving all my pennies for (amongst other unobtainium) a DA*60-250 so I
haven't really been looking at other lenses at all.

but let me put it this way, more lenses are always good unless you're
fresh out of LBA clinic andyour camera wears an electronic lens mount
shackle =)

2011/6/9 sky :
> umm. I don't know. it doesn't have OS
> it is 70-200mm 1:2.8 II macro hsm if that helps.
> Is that good or bad
>
> James
>
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:35:49 +0200, Ecke PDML wrote:
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>>Congrats! IIRC there are two versions of that lens? if so, which one?
>>Enjoy!
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Re: Enabled sigma 80-200 2.8 APO DG HSM EX

[sky]

umm. I don't know. it doesn't have OS
it is 70-200mm 1:2.8 II macro hsm if that helps.
Is that good or bad

James



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>Congrats! IIRC there are two versions of that lens? if so, which one?
>Enjoy!
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Re: Enabled sigma 80-200 2.8 APO DG HSM EX

[Ecke PDML]

Congrats! IIRC there are two versions of that lens? if so, which one?
Enjoy!
Ecke

2011/6/9 sky :
> Just got it off Fleabay. Is for my wife however :(
> Heavy bit of Glass.  Very clean and smooth.
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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[Paul Stenquist]

This one is excellent:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/194968-REG/Hakuba_KGP_02.html


On May 5, 2011, at 11:57 PM, s...@eftel.net.au wrote:

> This is going to happen, but not right now. After spending $3000 on 2
> bodies, the pennys are rather hard to find. I do like the different strap
> idea.
> She wants a strap that goes over hand so she can hang on to the camera
> better.
> Just need to find one.
> 
> James
> 
>> 
>> Put a battery grip on one of them -- yours of course.
>> Paul
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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[sky]

This is going to happen, but not right now. After spending $3000 on 2
bodies, the pennys are rather hard to find. I do like the different strap
idea.
She wants a strap that goes over hand so she can hang on to the camera
better.
Just need to find one.

James

>
> Put a battery grip on one of them -- yours of course.
> Paul



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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[sky]

Very good susgestion but I have already done this.
James



> As for ID'ing the camera, I suggest you take a look at Copyright Info
> feature. In a nutshell, you can simply record in camera the name of the
> photographer that will automatically be put into metadata of images the
> camera would take. This info is also shown by the camera when you review
> the "info" of the picture taken with it.
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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[sky]

I should explain that Sky isn't my name but name of step daughter who
really raised both my and my wifes blood pressure to the moon. Thankfull
she no longer lives with us but has left us a legacy of her daughter who
is now 2 1/2. This is an email addy i set up for her but she never used,
so using it for this list :)

James
>
> Sky - sounds like a blood pressure raising adventure you went through!
>
> ann
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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5: camera straps

[Bob Sullivan]

They also make the sd card pockets separately to thread onto your camera strap.
I have on on each camera strap and 2-3 sd cards in each.
I'll run out of battery juice before I can fill all the cards.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>> Tying in this thread to the "no card in the camera" thread In days of 
>> yore, I taped a couple of film cans to my camera strap, so I'd have fresh 
>> film handy. Shortly after the conversion to digital, I was about to do 
>> something similar to hold SD cards when I got the brilliant idea of calling 
>> the camera store, on the off chance that I wasn't the first one to think of 
>> this.
>>
>> I love these Tamrac straps:
>> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=safari&rls=en&q=tamrac+camera+strap&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=10969499609150346402&sa=X&ei=Fd3CTfvhF4PTiAKQ1fGLAw&ved=0CFwQ8wIwBA#ps-sellers
>
> While I haven't used this particular strap, I'm also a big fan of
> neoprene straps. I find that they really reduce the apparent weight of
> cameras and binoculars. (Mine are all Op/Tech and don't have the
> clever card storage feature.)
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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5: camera straps

[Matthew Hunt]

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> Tying in this thread to the "no card in the camera" thread In days of 
> yore, I taped a couple of film cans to my camera strap, so I'd have fresh 
> film handy. Shortly after the conversion to digital, I was about to do 
> something similar to hold SD cards when I got the brilliant idea of calling 
> the camera store, on the off chance that I wasn't the first one to think of 
> this.
>
> I love these Tamrac straps:
> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=safari&rls=en&q=tamrac+camera+strap&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=10969499609150346402&sa=X&ei=Fd3CTfvhF4PTiAKQ1fGLAw&ved=0CFwQ8wIwBA#ps-sellers

While I haven't used this particular strap, I'm also a big fan of
neoprene straps. I find that they really reduce the apparent weight of
cameras and binoculars. (Mine are all Op/Tech and don't have the
clever card storage feature.)

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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5: camera straps

[Larry Colen]

On May 5, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> James,
> Get a different color camera strap for one of them.

Tying in this thread to the "no card in the camera" thread In days of yore, 
I taped a couple of film cans to my camera strap, so I'd have fresh film handy. 
Shortly after the conversion to digital, I was about to do something similar to 
hold SD cards when I got the brilliant idea of calling the camera store, on the 
off chance that I wasn't the first one to think of this.

I love these Tamrac straps:
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=safari&rls=en&q=tamrac+camera+strap&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=10969499609150346402&sa=X&ei=Fd3CTfvhF4PTiAKQ1fGLAw&ved=0CFwQ8wIwBA#ps-sellers
 I carry empty cards in the left pocket, full cards in the right, and if I'm 
doing something where the strap gets in the way, I can easily take it off and 
put it back on.

They also come in different patterns, colors and styles.

> And change the first two letters of the file names it produces.
> It's a simple change in the menues and will help you keep track of
> who's shots are who's.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:54 AM, sky  wrote:
>> hi
>> 
>> This was more or less forced apon me. Orignally, sent my 15-50 2.8 lens in 
>> to be repaired after it stopped focusing. I checked lens on another camera 
>> in store before I blamed the lens and asked store to have it
>> fixed. Lens is 3 years old so well out of warenty. Some 2 months later after 
>> not hearing a thing, chased up what was going on. Apperantly the store was 
>> noteafied  some 6 weeks earlier but noone thought to ring me.
>> Repair place wanted my body as well because the lens worked on the wide 
>> range of cameras they have?! Latter, recieved call saying they are going to 
>> send lens to CRK in melbourne. they checked every
>> combination the repair place has (what ever that means) and said both camera 
>> and lens is fine except when together. I asked for my body back because i 
>> wanted it for easter. repair place said no, we may need to
>> replace the lens mount on body. GR!!
>> 
>> So bought the K5to take with me for easter. Very nice camera. Quite an 
>> upgrade.
>> My wife seeing that I have one bought her own K5 thus upgrading from her 
>> K100D.  Bigger upgrade
>> Now i need to find some way to ID each camera so we can tell them apart at a 
>> quick glance
>> Also need 2nd batteries, 12v charger , bigger faster cards etc..
>> 
>> James
>> 
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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[Ann Sanfedele]

Larr y_ he said "at a quick glance" :-)
I recommend a bright signal dot or a small strip of duct tape , or 
reflector strip on one.  


Sky - sounds like a blood pressure raising adventure you went through!

ann

Larry Colen wrote:


Congratulations.
For the IDing, just set the file names to the the two different cameras to each 
of your initials.

On May 5, 2011, at 1:54 AM, sky wrote:

 


hi

This was more or less forced apon me. Orignally, sent my 15-50 2.8 lens in to be repaired after it stopped focusing. I checked lens on another camera in store before I blamed the lens and asked store to have it 
fixed. Lens is 3 years old so well out of warenty. Some 2 months later after not hearing a thing, chased up what was going on. Apperantly the store was noteafied  some 6 weeks earlier but noone thought to ring me.
Repair place wanted my body as well because the lens worked on the wide range of cameras they have?! Latter, recieved call saying they are going to send lens to CRK in melbourne. they checked every 
combination the repair place has (what ever that means) and said both camera and lens is fine except when together. I asked for my body back because i wanted it for easter. repair place said no, we may need to 
replace the lens mount on body. GR!! 


So bought the K5to take with me for easter. Very nice camera. Quite an upgrade.
My wife seeing that I have one bought her own K5 thus upgrading from her K100D. 
 Bigger upgrade
Now i need to find some way to ID each camera so we can tell them apart at a 
quick glance
Also need 2nd batteries, 12v charger , bigger faster cards etc..

James



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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[Mark Roberts]

Larry Colen wrote:

>On May 5, 2011, at 2:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
>
>> On 5/5/2011 11:54, sky wrote:
>> 
>> There are of course less geeky way to do it, say, by having slightly 
>> different camera straps. Or by having a grip attached to your camera and not 
>> attaching it to that of your wife, etc.
>
>Put the FA77 on yours.

I second Larry's suggestion!
 
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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[Otis Wright]

I use a short loop of bright colored fine nylon twine through one of the 
strap rings on the camera  for this purpose.  It was a quick "emergency" 
solution made in the field some years ago --- while under a lot of 
pressure and picking up the "wrong" camera was becoming a really 
annoyance.It worked well enough that the loop is still there.


Otis

On 5/5/2011 5:45 AM, sky wrote:

On Thu, 5 May 2011 01:55:58 -0700, Larry Colen wrote:


Congratulations.
For the IDing, just set the file names to the the two different cameras to each 
of your initials.
On May 5, 2011, at 1:54 AM, sky wrote:

Mighty fine idea. Thanks.
Now need an external quick ID.
Maybe put a huge scratch in hers :P...

James





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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[Bob Sullivan]

James,
Get a different color camera strap for one of them.
And change the first two letters of the file names it produces.
It's a simple change in the menues and will help you keep track of
who's shots are who's.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:54 AM, sky  wrote:
> hi
>
> This was more or less forced apon me. Orignally, sent my 15-50 2.8 lens in to 
> be repaired after it stopped focusing. I checked lens on another camera in 
> store before I blamed the lens and asked store to have it
> fixed. Lens is 3 years old so well out of warenty. Some 2 months later after 
> not hearing a thing, chased up what was going on. Apperantly the store was 
> noteafied  some 6 weeks earlier but noone thought to ring me.
> Repair place wanted my body as well because the lens worked on the wide range 
> of cameras they have?! Latter, recieved call saying they are going to send 
> lens to CRK in melbourne. they checked every
> combination the repair place has (what ever that means) and said both camera 
> and lens is fine except when together. I asked for my body back because i 
> wanted it for easter. repair place said no, we may need to
> replace the lens mount on body. GR!!
>
> So bought the K5to take with me for easter. Very nice camera. Quite an 
> upgrade.
> My wife seeing that I have one bought her own K5 thus upgrading from her 
> K100D.  Bigger upgrade
> Now i need to find some way to ID each camera so we can tell them apart at a 
> quick glance
> Also need 2nd batteries, 12v charger , bigger faster cards etc..
>
> James
>
>
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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[Brian Walters]

OK - seeing as no one else has done it

On Thu, 05 May 2011 18:54 +1000, "sky"  wrote:

> Repair place wanted my body as well 


Mark!!


Cheers

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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[Paul Stenquist]

On May 5, 2011, at 5:45 AM, sky wrote:

> On Thu, 5 May 2011 01:55:58 -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
>> Congratulations.
>> For the IDing, just set the file names to the the two different cameras to 
>> each of your initials.
> 
>> On May 5, 2011, at 1:54 AM, sky wrote:
> 
> Mighty fine idea. Thanks.
> Now need an external quick ID.
> Maybe put a huge scratch in hers :P...

Put a battery grip on one of them -- yours of course.
Paul
> 
> James
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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[Larry Colen]

On May 5, 2011, at 2:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> On 5/5/2011 11:54, sky wrote:
>> 
> 
> There are of course less geeky way to do it, say, by having slightly 
> different camera straps. Or by having a grip attached to your camera and not 
> attaching it to that of your wife, etc.

Put the FA77 on yours.

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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[sky]

On Thu, 5 May 2011 01:55:58 -0700, Larry Colen wrote:

>Congratulations.
>For the IDing, just set the file names to the the two different cameras to 
>each of your initials.

>On May 5, 2011, at 1:54 AM, sky wrote:

Mighty fine idea. Thanks.
Now need an external quick ID.
Maybe put a huge scratch in hers :P...

James



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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[Boris Liberman]

On 5/5/2011 11:54, sky wrote:

So bought the K5to take with me for easter. Very nice camera. Quite an upgrade.
My wife seeing that I have one bought her own K5 thus upgrading from her K100D. 
 Bigger upgrade
Now i need to find some way to ID each camera so we can tell them apart at a 
quick glance
Also need 2nd batteries, 12v charger , bigger faster cards etc..


Good to hear that you found a way out of your predicament, James.

As for ID'ing the camera, I suggest you take a look at Copyright Info 
feature. In a nutshell, you can simply record in camera the name of the 
photographer that will automatically be put into metadata of images the 
camera would take. This info is also shown by the camera when you review 
the "info" of the picture taken with it.


There are of course less geeky way to do it, say, by having slightly 
different camera straps. Or by having a grip attached to your camera and 
not attaching it to that of your wife, etc.


Boris


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RE: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[Krisjanis Linkevics]

> So bought the K5to take with me for easter. Very nice camera. Quite an
> upgrade.
> 
> James

Very nice. When I had K10D I too had problems, just blamed them on my 
technique. Then K20D improved my results and K-5 was a real leap forward. Now 
many say that buying new gear is not the answer but in the case of Pentax DSLRs 
my experience has been the opposite.

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Re: Enabled. from K10D to k5

[Larry Colen]

Congratulations.
For the IDing, just set the file names to the the two different cameras to each 
of your initials.

On May 5, 2011, at 1:54 AM, sky wrote:

> hi
> 
> This was more or less forced apon me. Orignally, sent my 15-50 2.8 lens in to 
> be repaired after it stopped focusing. I checked lens on another camera in 
> store before I blamed the lens and asked store to have it 
> fixed. Lens is 3 years old so well out of warenty. Some 2 months later after 
> not hearing a thing, chased up what was going on. Apperantly the store was 
> noteafied  some 6 weeks earlier but noone thought to ring me.
> Repair place wanted my body as well because the lens worked on the wide range 
> of cameras they have?! Latter, recieved call saying they are going to send 
> lens to CRK in melbourne. they checked every 
> combination the repair place has (what ever that means) and said both camera 
> and lens is fine except when together. I asked for my body back because i 
> wanted it for easter. repair place said no, we may need to 
> replace the lens mount on body. GR!! 
> 
> So bought the K5to take with me for easter. Very nice camera. Quite an 
> upgrade.
> My wife seeing that I have one bought her own K5 thus upgrading from her 
> K100D.  Bigger upgrade
> Now i need to find some way to ID each camera so we can tell them apart at a 
> quick glance
> Also need 2nd batteries, 12v charger , bigger faster cards etc..
> 
> James
> 
> 
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Re: enabled with... a DA*50-135 :)

[Bran Everseeking]

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:20:49 +0100
Thibouille  wrote:

> Mmm I'm not sure I'm good. There may be worse photographers however :)
> I'll post some shots :)

I am definitely not one of the good ones but that does not stop the Joy.

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Re: enabled with... a DA*50-135 :)

[Thibouille]

Mmm I'm not sure I'm good. There may be worse photographers however :)
I'll post some shots :)

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Congratulations. Then, it is likely you would be able to resist temptation
> of either DA 70/2.4 or FA 77/1.8. Though having the latter it was easy to
> resist temptation of your newly bought lens.
>
> Have fun and be sure to show some pictures. I know for the fact, that you
> are a good photographer.
>
> Boris
>
>
>
> Thibouille wrote:
>>
>> I did not plan to buy that one although I know it is a wonderful lens,
>> price was way to high for me.
>> I found one on the bay which stayed at 550 Euros, pristine shape and
>> still under warranty.
>> My usual dealer has it for 1100 Euors.. ouch !
>>
>> Couldn't resist.. was too hard...
>> I'm still very early in the testing though. The only thing which could
>> have been improved IMO is the minimal focussing distance which is OK
>> but not great either.
>>
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Re: enabled with... a DA*50-135 :)

[Boris Liberman]

Congratulations. Then, it is likely you would be able to resist 
temptation of either DA 70/2.4 or FA 77/1.8. Though having the latter it 
was easy to resist temptation of your newly bought lens.


Have fun and be sure to show some pictures. I know for the fact, that 
you are a good photographer.


Boris



Thibouille wrote:

I did not plan to buy that one although I know it is a wonderful lens,
price was way to high for me.
I found one on the bay which stayed at 550 Euros, pristine shape and
still under warranty.
My usual dealer has it for 1100 Euors.. ouch !

Couldn't resist.. was too hard...
I'm still very early in the testing though. The only thing which could
have been improved IMO is the minimal focussing distance which is OK
but not great either.




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RE: Re-enabled

[John Celio]

If I had the money, I'd get the W60 in a heartbeat.  Ever since the
Optio WR series, Pentax's P&S water resistant/proof cameras have been
utterly fantastic.  The 43WR had one of the sharpest lenses I ever saw
on a P&S camera, no exaggeration, and it appears the W series has kept
that optical quality.

As it is, I still need to send a check to the PDMLer who sent me some
cool older stuff last week.  My new/old ring flash is a lot of fun. :D

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Subject: Re-enabled
From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, September 22, 2008 8:32 pm
To: pdml 

I got my Optio W60 Waterproof point and shoot today.
The price has dropped recently which was a nice
suprise. Unfortunately, B&H doesn't have any Impact
batteries in stock for the camera yet so I'll have to
make do with one battery for now.

This one replaces my venerable Optio W10 which I've
praised and repraised on this list many times. That
camera is going to my wife who's very happy to have
it. It produced something like 30,000+ images for me
and I couldn't be more pleased with it's performance.
I used it last weekend to take underwater video of
myself and the kids in about 5 feet of water. What a
great little camera!

The new model is 10MP and slightly smaller and lighter
than the W10. It has some black plastic on the
exterior (top and a grip on the right front) which is
textured for more solid gripping especially if you
plan on using it underwater or in inclement
weather...and I do! This is a big improvement as the
W10 was not easy to hold when wet or with white gloves
(I wear these when shooting watches to keep skin tones
from reflecting in shiny metals). It also has a larger
display on the back which is supposedly much easier to
view, especially in bright sunlight. The W60 has a
longer OPTICAL zoom range 5-25mm than the W10's
digital zoom (6.3-18.9mm). The lens does not protrude
from the body.

I'm going to shoot some tests with it ASAP and will
post the results here for anyone who's interested. My
hope is that the camera has increased dynamic range
along with it's higher resolution. Highlights could be
a bear to finese with the W10.

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Re-enabled

[Brendan MacRae]

I got my Optio W60 Waterproof point and shoot today.
The price has dropped recently which was a nice
suprise. Unfortunately, B&H doesn't have any Impact
batteries in stock for the camera yet so I'll have to
make do with one battery for now.

This one replaces my venerable Optio W10 which I've
praised and repraised on this list many times. That
camera is going to my wife who's very happy to have
it. It produced something like 30,000+ images for me
and I couldn't be more pleased with it's performance.
I used it last weekend to take underwater video of
myself and the kids in about 5 feet of water. What a
great little camera!

The new model is 10MP and slightly smaller and lighter
than the W10. It has some black plastic on the
exterior (top and a grip on the right front) which is
textured for more solid gripping especially if you
plan on using it underwater or in inclement
weather...and I do! This is a big improvement as the
W10 was not easy to hold when wet or with white gloves
(I wear these when shooting watches to keep skin tones
from reflecting in shiny metals). It also has a larger
display on the back which is supposedly much easier to
view, especially in bright sunlight. The W60 has a
longer OPTICAL zoom range 5-25mm than the W10's
digital zoom (6.3-18.9mm). The lens does not protrude
from the body.

I'm going to shoot some tests with it ASAP and will
post the results here for anyone who's interested. My
hope is that the camera has increased dynamic range
along with it's higher resolution. Highlights could be
a bear to finese with the W10.

-Brendan


  

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Re: Enabled

[Margus Männik]

Hi all,

yes, it's basically the minimum focussing distance. It's quite sharp 
even wide open and goes VERY sharp at f/6.3...f/8.
I've been travelling last days (unfortunately without SLR), but 
hopefully this weekend I'll find some hours to spend with this lens again.

BR, Margus


Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Very nice Margus!
> Looks like a very close focus.
> And sharp as well.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Margus Männik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Sometimes "home and sick" isn't that bad at all. At least I had time for
>> my DA*300 I got few days ago. When I handled it first (in January) I
>> wasn't sure to get it - DA*60-250 sounded better for me.  Now it seems
>> that I have to get 'em both. Yes, it will be expensive but also
>> extremely good solution.
>>
>> Just one flower macro shot with K20D + DA*300:
>> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/flower300.jpg
>>
>> BR, Margus
>>
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Re: Enabled

[Christine Aguila]

Wow, nice flower pic.  Looks like a great lens.  Cheers, Christine


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From: "Margus Männik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Enabled


> Sometimes "home and sick" isn't that bad at all. At least I had time for
> my DA*300 I got few days ago. When I handled it first (in January) I
> wasn't sure to get it - DA*60-250 sounded better for me.  Now it seems
> that I have to get 'em both. Yes, it will be expensive but also
> extremely good solution.
>
> Just one flower macro shot with K20D + DA*300:
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/flower300.jpg
>
> BR, Margus
>
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Re: Enabled

[Steve Desjardins]

Very nice.  Sharp and nice exposure givne the contrast.  Is that a Prof.
Einstein Daffodil?

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>>> Margus Männik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/03/08 6:05 PM >>>
Sometimes "home and sick" isn't that bad at all. At least I had time for

my DA*300 I got few days ago. When I handled it first (in January) I 
wasn't sure to get it - DA*60-250 sounded better for me.  Now it seems 
that I have to get 'em both. Yes, it will be expensive but also 
extremely good solution.

Just one flower macro shot with K20D + DA*300:
http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/flower300.jpg

BR, Margus


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Re: Enabled

[Bob Sullivan]

Very nice Margus!
Looks like a very close focus.
And sharp as well.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Margus Männik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sometimes "home and sick" isn't that bad at all. At least I had time for
> my DA*300 I got few days ago. When I handled it first (in January) I
> wasn't sure to get it - DA*60-250 sounded better for me.  Now it seems
> that I have to get 'em both. Yes, it will be expensive but also
> extremely good solution.
>
> Just one flower macro shot with K20D + DA*300:
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/flower300.jpg
>
> BR, Margus
>
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Re: Enabled

[pnstenquist]

Nice shot. I like your solution. Sounds like that would work for me as well. 
Looks like some more seldom used equipment goes on the block. 
Paul
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> Sometimes "home and sick" isn't that bad at all. At least I had time for 
> my DA*300 I got few days ago. When I handled it first (in January) I 
> wasn't sure to get it - DA*60-250 sounded better for me.  Now it seems 
> that I have to get 'em both. Yes, it will be expensive but also 
> extremely good solution.
> 
> Just one flower macro shot with K20D + DA*300:
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/flower300.jpg
> 
> BR, Margus
> 
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Re: Enabled

[Mme RD]

Margus Männik a écrit :
> Sometimes "home and sick" isn't that bad at all. At least I had time for 
> my DA*300 I got few days ago. When I handled it first (in January) I 
> wasn't sure to get it - DA*60-250 sounded better for me.  Now it seems 
> that I have to get 'em both. Yes, it will be expensive but also 
> extremely good solution.
>
> Just one flower macro shot with K20D + DA*300:
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/flower300.jpg
>
> BR, Margus
>   
wow! .. really neat picture .
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Re: Enabled with a Pentax lens

[Mark Roberts]

Cotty wrote:

>Yessir, a good old-fashioned K 17mm fishy :-)
>
>
>
>I don't know if that's a good price or not, prolly not.

Probably reasonable - it looks to be in lovely condition.
I can hardly wait to see some photos!

>One of those rare occasions that you use a lens and you actually start
> laughing out loud.

I know: I have the 10-17 fisheye :)


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Re: Enabled with a Pentax lens

[P. J. Alling]

That is nearly the worst advert I've seen on eBay. Just about everything 
is wrong yet they still got almost $300 for the lens. IIRC I paid about 
$250 for my copy about 6 years ago, and mine is pretty beat up. I think 
you did fairly well. I do however hate you what what you are about to do 
to the poor defenseless thing...

Cotty wrote:
> Yessir, a good old-fashioned K 17mm fishy :-)
>
> 
>
> I don't know if that's a good price or not, prolly not.
>
> I once sold an identical lens for Albano Garcia - he sent it to me to
> eBay in the UK, and I sent him the proceeds (apparently better than
> eBaying it in south America). I had a chance to play with it on the MX/
> LX and it was just a crazy lens. One of those rare occasions that you
> use a lens and you actually start laughing out loud. I'll adapt it to
> fit Darkside gear, so that's another one that bites the dust eh Peter.
> Should hopefully be quite good on a 1.3 sensor. Haven't thought about
> getting a full frame sensor camera really, can't be arsed. No money for
> that right now.
>
> Many thanks to a listmember who shall remain nameless - but is in fact
> Godders - for receiving it and testing it for me :-)
>
>
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Re: Enabled

[David Savage]

At 04:47 AM 17/08/2007, frank theriault wrote:
>Biting my tongue.  Biting my tongue...

Why mate? Doesn't that hurt?

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Re: Enabled

[frank theriault]

On 8/16/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I disagree. I think Cotty could catch Dave's hair on fire.

Biting my tongue.  Biting my tongue...

;-)

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Re: Enabled

[Norm Baugher]

You can catch your hair on fire (unless of course you're Cotty).
Norm

Toine wrote:
> Congrats, Happy shooting, don't overheat the flash
>
>
> On 8/16/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I'm now the proud owner of a AF-360-FGZ
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Re: Enabled

[Mark Roberts]

Norm Baugher wrote:

>You can catch your hair on fire (unless of course you're Cotty).

I disagree. I think Cotty could catch Dave's hair on fire.


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Re: Enabled

[Toine]

Congrats, Happy shooting, don't overheat the flash


On 8/16/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm now the proud owner of a AF-360-FGZ
>
> No stopping me now. Opps road blocked ahead.LOL
>
> Dave
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pre/re-enabled.... I guess

[cbwaters]

Some of you may recall the story of my tripod tipping over right after I got 
my *ist D.  I lost the use of my F 35-135 macro in that incident.  The auto 
focus quit working because the lens barrel had shifted some.
I was using the lens on the K10 yesterday to take some macro shots, manually 
focused and left the lens on the body.  When I got home, I was playing with 
the camera a little and felt like the lens focused pretty easily so I tried 
switching the camera to AF.
Whadyaknow?  It works.
It's kind-of funny though.  Since I broke this one, I bought another one, 
decided it was too heavy and I really didn't like the range all that much on 
the DSLR so it went with the *ist D package when I sold it to some nice guy 
in Chicago.
Now here I have this lens again...like a bad penny.

CW
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Re: pre/re-enabled.... I guess

[cbwaters]

Eeek!
Slim chance though.  I got enough out of that package that he'd have been 
crazy not to call me on receiving a broken lens, even if it's not expensive.

CW

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>
> Maybe you sold the defective one with the D
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
>
> Quoting cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Some of you may recall the story of my tripod tipping over right
>> after I got
>> my *ist D.  I lost the use of my F 35-135 macro in that incident.
>> The auto
>> focus quit working because the lens barrel had shifted some.
>> I was using the lens on the K10 yesterday to take some macro shots,
>> manually
>> focused and left the lens on the body.  When I got home, I was
>> playing with
>> the camera a little and felt like the lens focused pretty easily so
>> I tried
>> switching the camera to AF.
>> Whadyaknow?  It works.
>> It's kind-of funny though.  Since I broke this one, I bought
>> another one,
>> decided it was too heavy and I really didn't like the range all
>> that much on
>> the DSLR so it went with the *ist D package when I sold it to some
>> nice guy
>> in Chicago.
>> Now here I have this lens again...like a bad penny.
>>
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Re: pre/re-enabled.... I guess

[Brian Walters]

Maybe you sold the defective one with the D



Cheers

Brian

++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia

Quoting cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Some of you may recall the story of my tripod tipping over right
> after I got 
> my *ist D.  I lost the use of my F 35-135 macro in that incident. 
> The auto 
> focus quit working because the lens barrel had shifted some.
> I was using the lens on the K10 yesterday to take some macro shots,
> manually 
> focused and left the lens on the body.  When I got home, I was
> playing with 
> the camera a little and felt like the lens focused pretty easily so
> I tried 
> switching the camera to AF.
> Whadyaknow?  It works.
> It's kind-of funny though.  Since I broke this one, I bought
> another one, 
> decided it was too heavy and I really didn't like the range all
> that much on 
> the DSLR so it went with the *ist D package when I sold it to some
> nice guy 
> in Chicago.
> Now here I have this lens again...like a bad penny.
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RE: Enabled on the short side

[Pedro Oliveira]

Hi, Dario.

I received mine three weeks ago and experienced that same hood problem.
But after it is well placed in position there is no problem. It is a
terrific lens and you can feel the cold of the metal. Very well made,
indeed.

Ciao.

Pedro Oliveira

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Enviada: domingo, 4 de Março de 2007 20:10
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Assunto: Enabled on the short side

I've received my DA 12-24mm, and I've just shot a few pics. It performs
very 
well on all respects, except for a rather evident CA, badly needing 
correction in case of large format prints.
All considered, it tastes a lot like the DA 16-45mm, which I love so
much.

Warning: when using it, be careful to let the hood "click" well into its

lock position, otherwise you think its OK while it's not (and the shade
will 
be visible in all pictures taken at 12mm). It happened to me.

Cheers,

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Re: Enabled Once Again

[David Savage]

It's a good thing for me that none of my local stores stock any decent
Pentax kit

My bank balance would never recover from the constant abuse..

Dave (I didn't mean a word of that)

On 12/8/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had a message that my vertical grip had arrived at Don's, so I went to
> fetch it after supper.
> I walked out with a DA40/2.8 as well.
> It's a funny looking little thing, but it seems to be a good optic.
>
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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Amita Guha]

On 11/2/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Not to worry Amita. Most of my submissions for Paw etc are Nikon
> shots, and the group still loves me.
>
> LOL

:)

> Any plans to get the 18-200 VR. I'm toying with this lens.
>
> Dave

Actually, I bought that lens with the body, although after initial
testing I have put it aside while I play with primes and get used to
the body. I bought the 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.8.

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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[David J Brooks]

Quoting Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On 11/1/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi!
>
>> Amita, as long as will *keep* posting *your* pictures to *this* list, I
>> shall not flame or blame...
>>
>> ;-)
>
> Even if they're made with a Nikon? ;)
>
> Amita

Not to worry Amita. Most of my submissions for Paw etc are Nikon  
shots, and the group still loves me.

LOL

Any plans to get the 18-200 VR. I'm toying with this lens.

Dave

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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Digital Image Studio]

On 03/11/06, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's true, Markus.
> Such photographs (done with the D) never turn out well enough to publish
> :-)That is if they were ever actually recorded in the first place.
> Lots of times I find my self unable to press the shutter at the crutial
> moment, because the buffer is still busy.

It amazes me just how fast the sky can change on a windy day in the
time that my *ist D takes to write to the CF card during pano
sequences.

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RE: Enabled - with a D200

[Jens Bladt]

That's true, Markus.
Such photographs (done with the D) never turn out well enough to publish
:-)That is if they were ever actually recorded in the first place.
Lots of times I find my self unable to press the shutter at the crutial
moment, because the buffer is still busy.
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Emne: AW: Enabled - with a D200


Hi Jens
I have never seen a photo from you here that required a "speedy" camera.
How does your wish for speed match your collecting (and using) of (very) old
and lovely cameras?
just wondering
Markus


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Well the D200 is a very resourcefull camera. A couple of people in my camera
club have it. A couple have a 20D or a 30D. Many have the Konica Minolta
Maxxum 7D (attractive local camera shop offer) and a couple have Pentax'es
(D, DL, K100D) one has a Pentax 6x7. I was the only one using a Pentax for a
very long time. (The days (Seventies) when Pentax sold more cameras than
Canon and Nikon put together, are  l o o o o n g  gone). They all produce
excellent photographs BTW.

What I really want is a fast camera. Fast AF, FPS and Write Speed. And low
noice. I have heard that the K10D is not much faster than the previous
models. Tha't really bad news. This is where Pentax is really missing out:
 3 FPS unlimited (JPEG) and 9 shot RAW burst is good - or at least better.
But certainly NOT pro-level specs.
The D200 does 37 JPEGs and 22 RAWs - is this at the maximum speed at 5 FPS?
That's MUCH better.

Five years ago some Canon digital camera did 8 FPS. It sounded like an Uzi
gun, leaving Pentax miles behind, as far as speed is concerned.
For a pro shooter speed IS an important issue. For me too.

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Emne: Enabled - with a D200


I got an email from someone asking why I'm selling so much gear all at
once, so I think it's time to tell you guys - I bought a D200 a couple
of weeks ago. I was going to wait until after I saw the K10D at Photo
Plus, but I found myself wishing I had the D200 the whole time I was
on vacation, so I ordered it when I came home.

Most of the gear I'm selling is stuff I haven't used much in the last
year or two anyway. I'm going to keep a small Pentax kit for now. I am
interested in some of the new lenses coming down the pike anyway. I
will probably trade my *istD for a K10D once I've seen samples from it
 and it is proven to be a good performer (and the price comes down a
bit).

Anyway, that's my story...flame away. ;)

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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[K.Takeshita]

On 11/02/06 9:44 AM, "Boris Liberman", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Even if they're made with a Nikon? ;)
>> 
>> Amita
> 
> Yes, why not?

Yes, it will only prove how good Pentax are! :-).

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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

> On 11/1/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi!
> 
>> Amita, as long as will *keep* posting *your* pictures to *this* list, I
>> shall not flame or blame...
>>
>> ;-)
> 
> Even if they're made with a Nikon? ;)
> 
> Amita

Yes, why not?

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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Amita Guha wrote:

> On 11/1/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Amita, as long as will *keep* posting *your* pictures to *this* list, I
>> shall not flame or blame...
>
> Even if they're made with a Nikon? ;)

I don't think there is a limitation on the PAWs and PESOs. The PUG is 
a different matter.

Perhaps if you use a Pentax UV filter? :-)

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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Amita Guha]

On 11/1/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!

> Amita, as long as will *keep* posting *your* pictures to *this* list, I
> shall not flame or blame...
>
> ;-)

Even if they're made with a Nikon? ;)

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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

> I got an email from someone asking why I'm selling so much gear all at
> once, so I think it's time to tell you guys - I bought a D200 a couple
> of weeks ago. I was going to wait until after I saw the K10D at Photo
> Plus, but I found myself wishing I had the D200 the whole time I was
> on vacation, so I ordered it when I came home.
> 
> Most of the gear I'm selling is stuff I haven't used much in the last
> year or two anyway. I'm going to keep a small Pentax kit for now. I am
> interested in some of the new lenses coming down the pike anyway. I
> will probably trade my *istD for a K10D once I've seen samples from it
>  and it is proven to be a good performer (and the price comes down a
> bit).
> 
> Anyway, that's my story...flame away. ;)

Amita, as long as will *keep* posting *your* pictures to *this* list, I 
shall not flame or blame...

;-)

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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[David J Brooks]

Quoting Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On 11/1/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Congrats.
>
> Thanks! I'm still getting used to its AF and metering, but overall, I
> couldn't be happier with it.
>
>> I hummed and hawed about the grip, but it balances the 70-200 Vr lens
>> well and gives me that D1h D2H etc feel to the camera.
>
> I already bought the grip. It's too heavy a camera for me to be
> comfortable doing portrait-oriented work otherwise.
>
>> The Nikon rep at GFM suggested the camera functioned best by being   
>> "0'd" out.
>> So far i find that about right.
>
> What's 0'd out?

Use the custom settings were you can manually set hue, saturaation,  
sharpness etc. Its just above the B&W setting in the menu,

I have everything set at 0 or normal.

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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[John Francis]

On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:59:11PM +0100, Jens Bladt wrote:
> 
> What I really want is a fast camera. Fast AF, FPS and Write Speed. And low
> noice. I have heard that the K10D is not much faster than the previous
> models. Tha't really bad news.

It's also incorrect, as far as I know.  The AF is (reportedly) significantly
faster than any of the previous bodies.  The FPS is reported to be a little
better than 3 fps (some reports suggest as high as 3.5), which is also an
improvement.  And the write speed is, with a 150x card or better, good enough
to write JPEGs until the card is full.  RAW still stalls after somewhere from
9 to 12 frames (depending on which report you read).

But that won't prevent the wailing and wringing of hands about the failings
of a not-yet-released body.

Sure, I'd like 5 fps for at least 20 frames.  And I'm one of the few people
who post to this group who would actually use that feature if it were there.
But I can live without it.  And I expect the AF to be a noticeable improvement
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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Amita Guha]

On 11/1/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hope you enjoy the D200! My brother bought earlier this year, seems
> an excellent camera.

Thanks! So far I am enjoying it even more than I thought I would. :)

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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Amita Guha]

On 11/1/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Congrats.

Thanks! I'm still getting used to its AF and metering, but overall, I
couldn't be happier with it.

> I hummed and hawed about the grip, but it balances the 70-200 Vr lens
> well and gives me that D1h D2H etc feel to the camera.

I already bought the grip. It's too heavy a camera for me to be
comfortable doing portrait-oriented work otherwise.

> The Nikon rep at GFM suggested the camera functioned best by being "0'd" out.
> So far i find that about right.

What's 0'd out?

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RE: Enabled - with a D200

[Jens Bladt]

Well the D200 is a very resourcefull camera. A couple of people in my camera
club have it. A couple have a 20D or a 30D. Many have the Konica Minolta
Maxxum 7D (attractive local camera shop offer) and a couple have Pentax'es
(D, DL, K100D) one has a Pentax 6x7. I was the only one using a Pentax for a
very long time. (The days (Seventies) when Pentax sold more cameras than
Canon and Nikon put together, are  l o o o o n g  gone). They all produce
excellent photographs BTW.

What I really want is a fast camera. Fast AF, FPS and Write Speed. And low
noice. I have heard that the K10D is not much faster than the previous
models. Tha't really bad news. This is where Pentax is really missing out:
 3 FPS unlimited (JPEG) and 9 shot RAW burst is good - or at least better.
But certainly NOT pro-level specs.
The D200 does 37 JPEGs and 22 RAWs - is this at the maximum speed at 5 FPS?
That's MUCH better.

Five years ago some Canon digital camera did 8 FPS. It sounded like an Uzi
gun, leaving Pentax miles behind, as far as speed is concerned.
For a pro shooter speed IS an important issue. For me too.

Regards
Jens Bladt
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Emne: Enabled - with a D200


I got an email from someone asking why I'm selling so much gear all at
once, so I think it's time to tell you guys - I bought a D200 a couple
of weeks ago. I was going to wait until after I saw the K10D at Photo
Plus, but I found myself wishing I had the D200 the whole time I was
on vacation, so I ordered it when I came home.

Most of the gear I'm selling is stuff I haven't used much in the last
year or two anyway. I'm going to keep a small Pentax kit for now. I am
interested in some of the new lenses coming down the pike anyway. I
will probably trade my *istD for a K10D once I've seen samples from it
 and it is proven to be a good performer (and the price comes down a
bit).

Anyway, that's my story...flame away. ;)

Amita

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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Adam Maas]

Amita Guha wrote:
>>What I really want as an alternate body to the K10D is a Canon 5D and a
>>Nikon->EF mount adaptor.
> 
> 
> I understand a lot of people would like something like that. I know
> Nate loves the output from his 5D.
> 
> I asked Nate if he would alter the mount of my 31mm Ltd so it would
> fit on the D200, but he refused. :)
> 
> Amita
> 

The 5D is the Canon body I'd want most (I already have an M42 adaptor 
for it). The output is excellent, and it is full frame (Which would be 
an advantage for how I'd use it). I'd like a FF body for my Nikon glass 
to use alongside my F3 and that's the best option. It would be mostly a 
studio/landscape body for me, while the K10D will be used for street work.

It's just a bit pricey for me at the moment.

-Adam


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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[David J Brooks]

Congrats.

I have only run about 4500 frames through mine so far, but i like what  
i am getting.

Puttuing it through some high ISO this weekend and i will report.

I hummed and hawed about the grip, but it balances the 70-200 Vr lens  
well and gives me that D1h D2H etc feel to the camera.

The Nikon rep at GFM suggested the camera functioned best by being "0'd" out.
So far i find that about right.

The vivid can be to vivid i'm afraid.

Works well with the Expodisk and the AWB is pretty good at ~most~  
applications.

Enjoy

Dave

Quoting Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I got an email from someone asking why I'm selling so much gear all at
> once, so I think it's time to tell you guys - I bought a D200 a couple
> of weeks ago. I was going to wait until after I saw the K10D at Photo
> Plus, but I found myself wishing I had the D200 the whole time I was
> on vacation, so I ordered it when I came home.
>
> Most of the gear I'm selling is stuff I haven't used much in the last
> year or two anyway. I'm going to keep a small Pentax kit for now. I am
> interested in some of the new lenses coming down the pike anyway. I
> will probably trade my *istD for a K10D once I've seen samples from it
>  and it is proven to be a good performer (and the price comes down a
> bit).
>
> Anyway, that's my story...flame away. ;)
>
> Amita
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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Scott Loveless]

On 11/1/06, Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What I really want as an alternate body to the K10D is a Canon 5D and a
> > Nikon->EF mount adaptor.
>
> I understand a lot of people would like something like that. I know
> Nate loves the output from his 5D.
>
> I asked Nate if he would alter the mount of my 31mm Ltd so it would
> fit on the D200, but he refused. :)
>
Ask him if he'll modify it for the 5D.  

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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Amita Guha]

> What I really want as an alternate body to the K10D is a Canon 5D and a
> Nikon->EF mount adaptor.

I understand a lot of people would like something like that. I know
Nate loves the output from his 5D.

I asked Nate if he would alter the mount of my 31mm Ltd so it would
fit on the D200, but he refused. :)

Amita

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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Adam Maas]

Amita Guha wrote:
> I got an email from someone asking why I'm selling so much gear all at
> once, so I think it's time to tell you guys - I bought a D200 a couple
> of weeks ago. I was going to wait until after I saw the K10D at Photo
> Plus, but I found myself wishing I had the D200 the whole time I was
> on vacation, so I ordered it when I came home.
> 
> Most of the gear I'm selling is stuff I haven't used much in the last
> year or two anyway. I'm going to keep a small Pentax kit for now. I am
> interested in some of the new lenses coming down the pike anyway. I
> will probably trade my *istD for a K10D once I've seen samples from it
>  and it is proven to be a good performer (and the price comes down a
> bit).
> 
> Anyway, that's my story...flame away. ;)
> 
> Amita
> 

Enjoy it.

I still want one myself. Even when I do get the K10D, I've got enough 
Nikon AI glass that a Nikon digital would see use, and the D200 is a 
superb camera.

What I really want as an alternate body to the K10D is a Canon 5D and a 
Nikon->EF mount adaptor.

-Adam


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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I hope you enjoy the D200! My brother bought earlier this year, seems  
an excellent camera.

No flames here ... Nikon makes good gear. I used Nikon SLR cameras  
for thirty years and never felt bad about it. :-)

Godfrey


On Nov 1, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Amita Guha wrote:

> I got an email from someone asking why I'm selling so much gear all at
> once, so I think it's time to tell you guys - I bought a D200 a couple
> of weeks ago. I was going to wait until after I saw the K10D at Photo
> Plus, but I found myself wishing I had the D200 the whole time I was
> on vacation, so I ordered it when I came home.
>
> Most of the gear I'm selling is stuff I haven't used much in the last
> year or two anyway. I'm going to keep a small Pentax kit for now. I am
> interested in some of the new lenses coming down the pike anyway. I
> will probably trade my *istD for a K10D once I've seen samples from it
>  and it is proven to be a good performer (and the price comes down a
> bit).
>
> Anyway, that's my story...flame away. ;)


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Re: Enabled - with a D200

[Cotty]

On 1/11/06, Amita Guha, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I got an email from someone asking why I'm selling so much gear all at
>once, so I think it's time to tell you guys - I bought a D200 a couple
>of weeks ago. I was going to wait until after I saw the K10D at Photo
>Plus, but I found myself wishing I had the D200 the whole time I was
>on vacation, so I ordered it when I came home.
>
>Most of the gear I'm selling is stuff I haven't used much in the last
>year or two anyway. I'm going to keep a small Pentax kit for now. I am
>interested in some of the new lenses coming down the pike anyway. I
>will probably trade my *istD for a K10D once I've seen samples from it
> and it is proven to be a good performer (and the price comes down a
>bit).
>
>Anyway, that's my story...flame away. ;)

You should always do what your heart tells you to. Keep taking pics!

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Re: Enabled: Epson P-4000 image tank

[Jan van Wijk]

Hi Amita,

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:43:42 -0400, Amita Guha wrote:

I had been thinking about getting a P2000 (or P4000)
for a long time as well, and finally got one now ...

>It arrived today! The screen is even better than I'd hoped. I need to
>sit down with the manual, but so far I've played with it a little and
>I really like what I see. It's a little big, but that screen is really
>worth it.

Yes, the screen is really good!
I also like to be able to carry a (subset of) my gallery stuff
with me, so I can alsway view it, or show to others.

Being able to directly read CF and SD cards is great too. 
No seperate card-reader needed anymore.

Video is also nice, but I have no real use for it yet.
(Allthough my Optio W10 can create 640x480 video)

I do like the MP3 capability, nice to have your favourite 
music with you, and 80Gb is a lot :-)


However, for use with the DSLR (*istD) I did find
a few drawbacks, no dealbreakers but still a bit
of a dissapointment:

- RAW images from the *istD (.PEF) are displayed OK,
but since it simply takes the embedded JPG (640x480 ?),
you CAN NOT ZOOM in on the image to see it in the 
resolution of the real image (6 megapixel).
So no way to judge sharpness that way ...
(This works fine with JPG's)

 - The slideshow feature does NOT work with RAW, only JPG
But it is great to show my PUG and holliday galleries, 
with Mark Knopfler as background music :-)

 - It does not display 'progressive' JPG files.
Not a problem for camera created ones, but JPG's from
other sources may have been saved that way ...

 - I do find it a bit slow in populating the screen with thumbnails

 - It does NOT display long filenames, which can be a bit
of a nuisance with MP3 music titles. (not a big deal though)

>I'd be happy to answer any questions about 
>the device as I learn more about it.

Are you shooting JPG mainly, or RAW ?


I hope the upcoming K10D will support simultanious RAW+JPG
mode, that would make reviewing on the P4000 easier.

If the rumour about using DNG format with is true, I hope the 
P4000 will support that too (perhaps with a firmware update :-)
Will test later if the understand the CS2 generated DNG's ...

Overall, I am quite happy with the Epson!

Regards, JvW



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Re: Enabled: Epson P-4000 image tank

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Glad you like it, Amita. The Epson P2000/P4000 etc are very nice  
indeed. :-)

Godfrey

On Jul 19, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Amita Guha wrote:

> It arrived today! The screen is even better than I'd hoped. I need to
> sit down with the manual, but so far I've played with it a little and
> I really like what I see. It's a little big, but that screen is really
> worth it.
>
> I'd be happy to answer any questions about the device as I learn  
> more about it.


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Re: phew - re-enabled

[brooksdj]

> 
> On Jun 29, 2006, at 8:56 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> > I wish one could shuffle the items in a menu so that the
> > one's you are apt to use
> > are near the top...
> 
> At least in the Pentax, if you know the items you need to use are  
> near the bottom you just press the up arrow after the menu button...  
> that jumps you to the bottom of that particular menu.

There is also the A,B & C shooting menus. Set each up for your various shooting 
paramiters
and then all you need to do 
is switch between menus instead of going through the menus.

Dave

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Re: phew - re-enabled

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jun 29, 2006, at 8:56 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> I wish one could shuffle the items in a menu so that the
> one's you are apt to use
> are near the top...

At least in the Pentax, if you know the items you need to use are  
near the bottom you just press the up arrow after the menu button...  
that jumps you to the bottom of that particular menu.

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Re: phew - re-enabled

[Ann Sanfedele]

Amita Guha wrote:
> 
> > But my rent is under $500 for 4 rooms and it isn't going up
> > becuse i'm old
> > so hey, I'm pretty happy here.
> 
> WOW - that's one hell of a deal for your location!
> 
> Glad you solved your camera dilemma. :)
> 
> Amita
> 
> --
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(Moved in here with (one of my (ex) husbands in 1968)

The renovated apartments here are 6 times that amount
I'm very very lucky

And you and Cesar and Frank and Rob, who have seen the
place, know exactly how lucky I am :)

ann


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Re: phew - re-enabled

[Amita Guha]

> But my rent is under $500 for 4 rooms and it isn't going up
> becuse i'm old
> so hey, I'm pretty happy here.

WOW - that's one hell of a deal for your location!

Glad you solved your camera dilemma. :)

Amita

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Re: phew - re-enabled P.s. about a typo and about DS probs

[Ann Sanfedele]

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> Hi Ann,
> 
> I've had two DS bodies, and I just don't see the battery chamber door as
> being fragile.  AFAIK, you and Mike Wilson are the only people who've
> mentioned that.  What about the door seems fragile to you.  I need
> something new to kvetch about ;-))
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
Well I could just have gotten a lemon - but my fingers found
it difficult to close 
I'll look around and see if I can find something else for
you to get annoyed with :)

ann

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Re: phew - re-enabled

[Ann Sanfedele]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Ann.
> 
> I find the menu and setup of the D aLOT easier than its Nikon sisters.
> 
> Nikon has a ton of sub and subsub menues.
> 
> I still get totally confused when i change something.
> 
> Just a FYI
> 
> Dave
> 

Don't worry _ I can't afford a Nikon anything so I'll never
know :) :)

I wish one could shuffle the items in a menu so that the
one's you are apt to use
are near the top... 

ann

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Re: phew - re-enabled

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jun 29, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Did you ever have a KX or a K-1000?  REmember , except for
> briefly, I never had anything that was auto for years - xcept for a  
> light
> meter... I never had auto focus lenses and I never used the LX in  
> auto mode
> nor did I even own a flash.

No, but the Nikon FM was similar. Shutter, aperture, focus, wind,  
rewind and clutch lock. ASA setting.

The DS has more stuff, but in the end you can operate it in exactly  
the same way if you want.

> WHen I shot film my mainstay was the 1.4 50mm  and my 100 macro  
> which I still have
> occasionally the 28mm got used -- and used more the harder it  
> became for me to focus -
> I'd just st the hyperfocal distance thingy on f8 and let her rip

I do the same even now sometimes. Manual focus with a 28mm focal  
length ... set f/11, set 12', everything from 6' to infinity is in  
focus. No need to deal with AF etc unless you want to. Some people  
say it's easier...

Sometimes I don't believe them. ;-)

Godfrey

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Re: phew - re-enabled P.s. about a typo and about DS probs

[Tom C]

>Hi Ann,
>
>I've had two DS bodies, and I just don't see the battery chamber door as
>being fragile.  AFAIK, you and Mike Wilson are the only people who've
>mentioned that.  What about the door seems fragile to you.  I need
>something new to kvetch about ;-))
>
>Shel
>

Watch out... when Ann gets mad... you'll be glad you're not a battery 
compartment door! :-)

Tom C.



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Re: phew - re-enabled

[brooksdj]

Ann.

I find the menu and setup of the D aLOT easier than its Nikon sisters.

Nikon has a ton of sub and subsub menues.

I still get totally confused when i change something.

Just a FYI

Dave

> On Jun 29, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Ann 
Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> >> What I am curious about is that you seem comfortable enough with the
> >> LX ... What makes the *ist DS so much more difficult to deal with? Or
> >> do you not use the LX very much anymore either?
> >
> > It's the way the bells and whistles work and the existence
> > of them  ...
> 
> > Objectively I see the following things wrong that I imagine
> > anyone would be annoyed with
> >
> > (1) the battery is extra fragile because of the way it is
> > constructed,
> > (2) things that you might
> > want to do quickly require getting into the menu and
> > scrolling (like that on the PRO-1,
> > too, but I've got the pattern in my head now )
> 
> > Ha - bet you are sorry you asked!
> 
> No. I find people's reactions to things very interesting.
> 
> Well, different strokes. Personally, I find the Pentax DS very much  
> alike to my old Nikon FM/FE2 and use it in much the same way. Of  
> course, it has a lot more features which I use when it seems  
> appropriate, but overall I just take pictures with it and consider  
> the SD card the equivalent of film, only I don't have to do film  
> processing. Photoshop and the Epson printer operate as I used a  
> darkroom in eons gone past ... only the results are better but I'll  
> leave that argument to others to natter over ;-) ... Never could  
> stand what photofinishers did with my photos so that option was never  
> acceptable for me.
> 
> I never read the warnings in the manuals and so far have not  
> destroyed either of the bodies. Nor found them unresponsive in the  
> same conditions I used all my other cameras over the years so I don't  
> know what all the warnings in the manuals are all about. Yet more  
> evidence of a deranged society's need for abundant over- 
> protectivisms, I suspect.
> 
> Curious that you focus on the battery door so much. I've not found it  
> to be fragile at all. With 16,000+ exposures on two DS bodies,  
> swapping NiMH batteries out every week for charging most of the time,  
> I've certainly exercised the door quite a bit on both and it doesn't  
> seem to be having any problems that I can tell.
> 
> Once you have a DS set up the way you want, you almost never need to  
> go into the main menu to do anything. It would be nice if the meter  
> pattern selector and focus mode selector was in the Fn menus like the  
> ISO and drive modes, but I hardly ever change the settings anymore.  
> Most of what I touch is
>- the exposure mode selector for Tv-Av-M,
>- the aperture-shutter-exposure comp thumbwheel and button,
>- the Fn menu for ISO setting,
>- and the AF-MF switch
> (at which point I also use the lens' focusing ring in MF mode). Seems  
> pretty close to what my film cameras had except for the AF-MF switch.
> 
> Personally, I prefer ring-operated zooms, push-pull zoom controls are  
> difficult to use with precision. But I rarely use zoom lenses anyway,  
> I have three but only really use one of them (the FA20-35) with any  
> frequency. I usually just set a focal length and then start framing  
> and shooting ... in other words, it's like having four primes in one  
> lens.
> 
> Anyway, you like and want what you like and want. "No matter where  
> you go, there you are." Enjoy the Pro-1 and don't worry about it.
> 
> G
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Re: phew - re-enabled P.s. about a typo and about DS probs

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi Ann,

I've had two DS bodies, and I just don't see the battery chamber door as
being fragile.  AFAIK, you and Mike Wilson are the only people who've
mentioned that.  What about the door seems fragile to you.  I need
something new to kvetch about ;-))

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Ann Sanfedele 

> > (1) the battery is extra fragile because of the way it is
> > constructed,
>
> I meant, of course, the battery chamber DOOR...



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Re: phew - re-enabled

[brooksdj]

> David J Brooks wrote:
> > 
> > To bad you felt the Pentax was not for you. I really like mine.
> 
> and you took some great sutff with it but you are big and
> strong and can hold it up to your face
> for more than a few seconds :)

You need to find faster horses.LOL

Dave
> > 
> > Glad your "back in the saddle"
> > 
> > Dave(only has one wife)Brooks
> 
> in the style of K w then :)
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> > 
> > Quoting Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > >
> > > KEH got my business
> > > I have my darkside twin to my beloved PRO-1 ordered
> > > By chance, I stumbled on it before others did
> > >
> > > I feel like I should by two - like shoes they stop making
> > > when you love them.
> > >
> > >
> > > I got mine for under $400
> > >
> > > much relieved
> > >
> > > Fortunately I have lots of potential PEntax shots already
> > > taken for
> > > August PUG
> > >
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Re: phew - re-enabled

[Kenneth Waller]

>> Dave(only has one wife)Brooks
> 
> in the style of K w then :)

I've always said if you do it right, you don't need more than one.  ;+]

Kenneth Waller

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> David J Brooks wrote:
>> 
>> To bad you felt the Pentax was not for you. I really like mine.
> 
> and you took some great sutff with it but you are big and
> strong and can hold it up to your face
> for more than a few seconds :)
>> 
>> Glad your "back in the saddle"
>> 
>> Dave(only has one wife)Brooks
> 
> in the style of K w then :)
> 
> ann
> 
> 
>> 
>> Quoting Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> 
>> >
>> > KEH got my business
>> > I have my darkside twin to my beloved PRO-1 ordered
>> > By chance, I stumbled on it before others did
>> >
>> > I feel like I should by two - like shoes they stop making
>> > when you love them.
>> >
>> >
>> > I got mine for under $400
>> >
>> > much relieved
>> >
>> > Fortunately I have lots of potential PEntax shots already
>> > taken for
>> > August PUG
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Re: phew - re-enabled

[Ann Sanfedele]

keith_w wrote:
> 
> Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > a digital SLR in a place that is dusty all the time is also
> > an accident waiting to happen
> > my windows, even with ac on, are always open and I live in
> > Manhattan surrounded by buildings being torn down and put up
>  >
> > anne
> 
> Hey Anne, I've an idea!
> When your air conditioner is on, shut your windows!
> Especially in Manhattan, as I understand it's terribly dusty there!
> 
> keith
> 
:) :)

Sorry -
I leave windows open a crack at least wherever I am - the ac
works just fine

I prefer outside dust to indoor pollution. In fact there are
two windows that don't close
I put things in front of them in the winter 

But my rent is under $500 for 4 rooms and it isn't going up
becuse i'm old
so hey, I'm pretty happy here.

t is a novel idea you have, though 

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Re: phew - re-enabled

[Ann Sanfedele]

David J Brooks wrote:
> 
> To bad you felt the Pentax was not for you. I really like mine.

and you took some great sutff with it but you are big and
strong and can hold it up to your face
for more than a few seconds :)
> 
> Glad your "back in the saddle"
> 
> Dave(only has one wife)Brooks

in the style of K w then :)

ann


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> 
> >
> > KEH got my business
> > I have my darkside twin to my beloved PRO-1 ordered
> > By chance, I stumbled on it before others did
> >
> > I feel like I should by two - like shoes they stop making
> > when you love them.
> >
> >
> > I got mine for under $400
> >
> > much relieved
> >
> > Fortunately I have lots of potential PEntax shots already
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Re: phew - re-enabled

[Ann Sanfedele]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> 
> 
(snip what i had said before )

> Well, different strokes. Personally, I find the Pentax DS very much
> alike to my old Nikon FM/FE2 and use it in much the same way. Of
> course, it has a lot more features which I use when it seems
> appropriate, but overall I just take pictures with it and consider
> the SD card the equivalent of film, only I don't have to do film
> processing. Photoshop and the Epson printer operate as I used a
> darkroom in eons gone past

I only did BW in the darkroom and early on, some ciba... but
I also
consider digital in the same way.

 ... only the results are better but I'll
> leave that argument to others to natter over ;-) 

natter another day -- 


... Never could
> stand what photofinishers did with my photos so that option was never
> acceptable for me.

I mainly shot slides and never pritned them - except for a
few shows
and a couple of years of doing cibachrome.  never did color
negs myself

> 
> I never read the warnings in the manuals and so far have not
> destroyed either of the bodies. Nor found them unresponsive in the
> same conditions I used all my other cameras over the years so I don't
> know what all the warnings in the manuals are all about. Yet more
> evidence of a deranged society's need for abundant over-
> protectivisms, I suspect.

that's true - but I've alwasy been a little shy of handling
things that
were electronic and only do it under duress. If anyone can
mess them up
I can.
> 
> Curious that you focus on the battery door so much. I've not found it
> to be fragile at all. With 16,000+ exposures on two DS bodies,
> swapping NiMH batteries out every week for charging most of the time,
> I've certainly exercised the door quite a bit on both and it doesn't
> seem to be having any problems that I can tell.

Well, I suppose the one on the camera I bought may just be a
lemon itself
but I couldnt get it to close and it was hard for my fingers
to open it...
The sales guy actually agreed that it was particularly
frail.

> 
> Once you have a DS set up the way you want, you almost never need to
> go into the main menu to do anything. It would be nice if the meter
> pattern selector and focus mode selector was in the Fn menus like the
> ISO and drive modes, but I hardly ever change the settings anymore.
> Most of what I touch is
>- the exposure mode selector for Tv-Av-M,
>- the aperture-shutter-exposure comp thumbwheel and button,
>- the Fn menu for ISO setting,
>- and the AF-MF switch
> (at which point I also use the lens' focusing ring in MF mode). Seems
> pretty close to what my film cameras had except for the AF-MF switch.

Did you ever have a KX or a K-1000?  REmember , except for
briefly, I never
had anything that was auto for years - xcept for a light
meter... I never
had auto focus lenses and I never used the LX in auto mode
nor did I even
own a flash.

> 
> Personally, I prefer ring-operated zooms, push-pull zoom controls are
> difficult to use with precision. But I rarely use zoom lenses anyway,
> I have three but only really use one of them (the FA20-35) with any
> frequency. I usually just set a focal length and then start framing
> and shooting ... in other words, it's like having four primes in one
> lens. 

WHen I shot film my mainstay was the 1.4 50mm  and my 100
macro which I still have
occasionally the 28mm got used -- and used more the harder
it became for me to focus -
I'd just st the hyperfocal distance thingy on f8 and let her
rip

> 
> Anyway, you like and want what you like and want. "No matter where
> you go, there you are." Enjoy the Pro-1 and don't worry about it.
> 
> G
> 
Me no worry - 

ann


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Re: phew - re-enabled

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jun 29, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>> What I am curious about is that you seem comfortable enough with the
>> LX ... What makes the *ist DS so much more difficult to deal with? Or
>> do you not use the LX very much anymore either?
>
> It's the way the bells and whistles work and the existence
> of them  ...
...
> Objectively I see the following things wrong that I imagine
> anyone would be annoyed with
>
> (1) the battery is extra fragile because of the way it is
> constructed,
> (2) things that you might
> want to do quickly require getting into the menu and
> scrolling (like that on the PRO-1,
> too, but I've got the pattern in my head now )
...
> Ha - bet you are sorry you asked!

No. I find people's reactions to things very interesting.

Well, different strokes. Personally, I find the Pentax DS very much  
alike to my old Nikon FM/FE2 and use it in much the same way. Of  
course, it has a lot more features which I use when it seems  
appropriate, but overall I just take pictures with it and consider  
the SD card the equivalent of film, only I don't have to do film  
processing. Photoshop and the Epson printer operate as I used a  
darkroom in eons gone past ... only the results are better but I'll  
leave that argument to others to natter over ;-) ... Never could  
stand what photofinishers did with my photos so that option was never  
acceptable for me.

I never read the warnings in the manuals and so far have not  
destroyed either of the bodies. Nor found them unresponsive in the  
same conditions I used all my other cameras over the years so I don't  
know what all the warnings in the manuals are all about. Yet more  
evidence of a deranged society's need for abundant over- 
protectivisms, I suspect.

Curious that you focus on the battery door so much. I've not found it  
to be fragile at all. With 16,000+ exposures on two DS bodies,  
swapping NiMH batteries out every week for charging most of the time,  
I've certainly exercised the door quite a bit on both and it doesn't  
seem to be having any problems that I can tell.

Once you have a DS set up the way you want, you almost never need to  
go into the main menu to do anything. It would be nice if the meter  
pattern selector and focus mode selector was in the Fn menus like the  
ISO and drive modes, but I hardly ever change the settings anymore.  
Most of what I touch is
   - the exposure mode selector for Tv-Av-M,
   - the aperture-shutter-exposure comp thumbwheel and button,
   - the Fn menu for ISO setting,
   - and the AF-MF switch
(at which point I also use the lens' focusing ring in MF mode). Seems  
pretty close to what my film cameras had except for the AF-MF switch.

Personally, I prefer ring-operated zooms, push-pull zoom controls are  
difficult to use with precision. But I rarely use zoom lenses anyway,  
I have three but only really use one of them (the FA20-35) with any  
frequency. I usually just set a focal length and then start framing  
and shooting ... in other words, it's like having four primes in one  
lens.

Anyway, you like and want what you like and want. "No matter where  
you go, there you are." Enjoy the Pro-1 and don't worry about it.

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Re: phew - re-enabled

[keith_w]

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

[...]

> a digital SLR in a place that is dusty all the time is also
> an accident waiting to happen
> my windows, even with ac on, are always open and I live in
> Manhattan surrounded by buildings being torn down and put up
 >
> anne


Hey Anne, I've an idea!
When your air conditioner is on, shut your windows!
Especially in Manhattan, as I understand it's terribly dusty there!

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Re: phew - re-enabled P.s. about a typo and about DS probs

[Ann Sanfedele]

Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> >
> > On Jun 29, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> >
> > >> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canonpro1/page3.asp
> 
> >
> > What I am curious about is that you seem comfortable enough with the
> > LX ... What makes the *ist DS so much more difficult to deal with? Or
> > do you not use the LX very much anymore either?
> >
> > Godfrey
> >
> > --
> It's the way the bells and whistles work and the existence
> of them

>
> Objectively I see the following things wrong that I imagine
> anyone would be annoyed with
> 
> (1) the battery is extra fragile because of the way it is
> constructed,

I meant, of course, the battery chamber DOOR...


ann - queen of typos and gaffs

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Re: phew - re-enabled

[Ann Sanfedele]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> 
> On Jun 29, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> >> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canonpro1/page3.asp
> >>
> > and why they stopped making it I jsut don't know...
> 
> Sales of 'prosumer class' fixed lens digital cameras are down quite a
> bit since DSLRs approached the $500 price bracket. Kind of a shame as
> some of the better cameras in the class are very capable and provide
> features that DSLRs do not. I still have my Konica Minolta A2, my
> favorite of the class that the Pro-1 was a part of, and recently
> purchased the Sony DSC-R1, which is a bit beyond either of the above
> due to its much larger sensor. Both of them are very fine cameras for
> certain purposes.
> 
> What I am curious about is that you seem comfortable enough with the
> LX ... What makes the *ist DS so much more difficult to deal with? Or
> do you not use the LX very much anymore either?
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> --
It's the way the bells and whistles work and the existence
of them 
- The LX is simple - I never owned an auto anything camera
until 1996 - I got a ZX-5 - thinking I did need to be able
to auto focus sometimes as my eyes are going

I can shoot with a manual camera without looking at the
controls, 
I can tell how fast I'm shooting without looking at
anything, I can shoot if the meter dies, I can tell which ap
I'm at without looking at the ap ring -- I 've had the LX
for 20 years and
before that 2 KX's which I like even better but the LX did
some neat stuff the KX couldn't.

I only went digital to start with because of selling stuff
on ebay and my photo finisher
going out of business (he was a block away - did every thing
I wanted him to and got stuff
back to me instantly if not sooner.)

and the money crunch... I also felt I needed ONE digital
camera to do quick work for profit
and it certainly is easier to get stuff up on my computer
for ebay pics

It took me months to adjust to the power shot A80 - then
about a month to get a bit
comfortable with the PRO-1 --

I accepted working with auto focus because my eyes wont do
the job looking through a 
viewfinder... everything tiny and dark

I know you don't know me in person and haven't known me long
on the list, but the
old timers here (HAR) will remember how I kicked to the
north and screamed to the
south I wouldn't get dragged into digital.  Given unlimited
funds (which , of course,
I will win tonight in the lottery) I'd have my LX and KX's
repaired to brand new,
buy and Optio, and a tiny spy camera, and 100 rolls of PKR64
if there is any left in
the world, and extra computer, etc... but I don't so I'm
compromising.

I've gotten fond of the Canon - I don't use half its
capabilities, but it works for me.

The DS is physically difficult for me to hold - it is just
heavy enough to hurt my
shoulder and back after about 30 seconds... (I'm a mass of
old broken limbs and back)

There is too much of a learning curve for me on all the tech
stuff - and it seems, in fact,
that I CAN'T just hook the camera up to the computer

20 years ago I could cope with the problems - I can't these
days and remain cheerful and sane.

Objectively I see the following things wrong that I imagine
anyone would be annoyed with

(1) the battery is extra fragile because of the way it is
constructed, 
(2) things that you might
want to do quickly require getting into the menu and
scrolling (like that on the PRO-1,
too, but I've got the pattern in my head now )

The zoom lenses (including the one I might keep)
work by turning instead of back and forth to zoom - which I
would often screw up when
I was using one of my old lenses that worked that way - zoom
when I meant to focus, focus
when I meant to zoom - by by shot... I just couldnt do it.

I found the LCD screen difficult to see - not nearly as
sharp and bright as my Canon.
The control buttons are mostly black.  
The trash button is just below the menu button. 

And there were a gazillion warnings about it's stability or
lack there of in cold weather.

and I'm a klutz, too  

a digital SLR in a place that is dusty all the time is also
an accident waiting to happen
my windows, even with ac on, are always open and I live in
Manhattan surrounded by 
buildings being torn down and put up

Ha - bet you are sorry you asked!

I babble when I'm upset - and this has been one hellofaday
dealing with friends
problems as well as my camera woes

so there :):)

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Re: phew - re-enabled

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jun 29, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canonpro1/page3.asp
>>
> and why they stopped making it I jsut don't know...

Sales of 'prosumer class' fixed lens digital cameras are down quite a  
bit since DSLRs approached the $500 price bracket. Kind of a shame as  
some of the better cameras in the class are very capable and provide  
features that DSLRs do not. I still have my Konica Minolta A2, my  
favorite of the class that the Pro-1 was a part of, and recently  
purchased the Sony DSC-R1, which is a bit beyond either of the above  
due to its much larger sensor. Both of them are very fine cameras for  
certain purposes.

What I am curious about is that you seem comfortable enough with the  
LX ... What makes the *ist DS so much more difficult to deal with? Or  
do you not use the LX very much anymore either?

Godfrey

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Re: phew - re-enabled

[Ann Sanfedele]

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> Is this the one you got?
> 
> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canonpro1/page3.asp
> 
> Shel
> 
>
Yup 

It is the one I got and have had for a year

I love love love it

and why they stopped making it I jsut don't know...

The successor to it doesn't have the flip out screen -
The flip out screen for me is the best thing since sliced
bread

It keeps me from rubbing my nose on an LCD which keeps the
LCD clear
and it twists to many angles so I can essentially shoot
around corners
or not have to lie down on the ground to get a very low
angle view of
a flower or mushroom or such - I can street shoot with it at 
waist level and see what I'm doing

It is totally silent , too 

Did I mention I loved it?

ann

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