Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Pat K
--- John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> P.S.: I shot entirely on film, which should be developed tomorrow or the 
> next day, but I'm curious where all the digital photos are.  The majority of 
> cameras at the gathering were digital.  Anyone got some good ones to post?

You're not the only one who shot on film. Since I am not digitally enabled (no
film scanner), it's a bit difficult to share. I will live vicariously through
the work of others until my own film is developed. =)

-Patsy
Pat in SF

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Re: NorCal Meeting (resend)

2005-03-07 Thread John Celio
I never got my original post back from the list, so I'm resending this just 
in case others didn't as well.


Ok, so here's my rundown of Saturday's events:
We met at the Rosicrucian Egyptian Museum in San Jose
(http://www.egyptianmuseum.org/).  After a round of show-and-tell in the
parking lot with prints, cameras and lenses and such, we headed over to the
museum grounds for the first shots of the day.  I discovered quickly I was
carrying too much equipment, with my 6x7, MX, Auto110 and a backpack full of
stuff, but couldn't decide what to leave behind.  Everyone else seemed so
much more comfortable than me.  (;
Anyway.  I don't think anyone bothered going into the museum, as the grounds
were photogenic enough on their own, and they were free.  Much chatting was
had as we strolled around, snapping away with our various cameras.  It was a
lovely day, though the lack of any clouds made photography difficult at
times.
For lunch we went to a very interesting Ethiopian restaurant a couple miles
from the museum.  The owner seemed to have a strange obsession with Mars
(anyone remember the name of the place?).  Food was very good, in my
opinion.  Some sort of meat sampler on this really cool spongy bread wrap
thing (Godfrey ordered for everyone).  I wish I could describe it better,
because it was actually quite good.  Nice conversation there, including
interrogating yours truly about photo industry stuff I don't really know a
whole lot about.  Godfrey had to leave at this point, unfortunately.
Next stop was farther away: Kelley Park
(http://www.sanjoseca.gov/prns/regionalparks/kp/kpindex.htm), where the
Historical Park and Japanese Friendship Gardens are located.
The Historical park was very nice.  Lots of mid- and late-1800s buildings
restored and staffed with period-dressed people to educate visitors (and
occasionally sell stuff).  There was a working trolley, a working print
shop, ice cream parlor, dentist's office, blacksmith, and lots more.  It was
something like a small Rennaissance Faire, but, um, a different time period,
and more historical than hippies selling stuff.  Not many people there that
day, which made it easier to take pictures, but also made it feel like some
sort of well-kept ghost town.  The "OPEN" flags gently waving in front of
some buildings seemed so lonesome, I went in some of them just to give the
employees something to do.  I got sidetracked by the guys in the print shop,
who were not only talented printers (something I've done in the past), but
were both into photography too.
By this time, sunset was only a couple hours away, so we headed over to the
Japanese Friendship Garden.  As far as Japanese gardens go, it wasn't as
nice as San Francisco's, but it was much bigger.  It was also where everyone
else in town was; there were families everywhere.  The risk of little
children underfoot was always present, but at least most of 'em were cute
and not troublemakers.  The garden itself was very well kept, though I found
it hard to find subjects I liked that weren't full of people, or too
contrasty from the direct sunlight.  Fortunately, there were plenty of PDML
conversations to join in on.  The whole day, really.  Everyone seemed to get
along very well.
As dusk approached, we decided it was time for dinner and caravanned to a
chinese restaurant near where John Francis lives (which made it easier for
him to go get his wife).  More good food and good conversation.  Marnie had
to leave a little early, and missed out on her fortune cookie.
In the end, it was a great day of photography and friendship.  Good food,
good people, good photos.
Good night,  (;
John Celio
P.S.: I shot entirely on film, which should be developed tomorrow or the
next day, but I'm curious where all the digital photos are.  The majority of
cameras at the gathering were digital.  Anyone got some good ones to post?
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Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/7/2005 5:12:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marnie, bring it in to Reed's sometime and I'll see what I can do with it.

John Celio
--
That's really nice, John, thanks. See other thread though (got it to work). I 
just had to think about how to go about it (and consult with Bruce). I 
haven't used the laptop for much other than spreadsheeting/business programs so 
it 
took me a tinge of pondering.

But thanks again. Appreciate it. I may hit on ou for help with something else 
in the future. Not that I have anything in mind right now, but now that 
you've offered... hehehe.

Marnie ;-)  A much happier camper now, although still a bit ticked off.



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread John Celio
Aren't there some recovery programs you could try?
Shel

I am sure the images are okay. It's the menus that aren't working and it
won't turn off when I push the on/off button. I have it hooked up to the 
computer
through the USB slot, because that is the only way I can get it to turn 
off.
So it's a matter of getting at the hard disk without going through their
system. I don't think I can do that myself. Unless I open it and find some 
way to
get at it, but I doubt it. I am thinking of writing the manufacturer and
complaining. Not that it will do any good. It's been over six months since 
I bought
it, I just haven't used it that often.

Marnie, bring it in to Reed's sometime and I'll see what I can do with it.
John Celio
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Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/7/2005 12:09:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
it's a pity you didn't enjoy it. For many people, including me,
Ethiopian food has the strange property that if you go without for too
long you develop a craving!

Did they do the coffee ceremony for you?

-- 
Cheers,
Bob
=
No. I didn't totally dislike it. I just don't like hot food. The sponge bread 
was good for that -- wrap it around the food and it absorbs or detracts from 
some of the spiciness.

The owner was nice, they were all nice, and there were some neat drawings on 
the walls (of Ethiopians in traditional gear). 

New experiences are good.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Bob W
Hi,

> The owner of the restaurant, or the chef, or possibly both, came by and told
> me (why me, I have no idea) that it was imported. That tef is not grown in the
> US at all. Actually, at the time, I had no idea what he was talking about and
> thought maybe he was coughing or something (although I smiled and nodded
> intelligently). 

> Now I know.

> Truthfully I found the "sponge" bread truly weird. Not necessarily bad, but I
> kept having the feeling I was eating a piece of thin foam -- possibly torn
> off someone's lawn furniture -- from the padding under the vinyl. Lawn 
> furniture
> that had been out in the rain, since it didn't have that nice new yellow foam
> look, but sort of a rotting, too-old, ready-to-fall-apart foam look.

> Never say I am not a good sport. Especially in the service of a PDML meet.

it's a pity you didn't enjoy it. For many people, including me,
Ethiopian food has the strange property that if you go without for too
long you develop a craving!

Did they do the coffee ceremony for you?

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/7/2005 11:34:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks everyone for the great time!

Godfrey
===
Ditto. Should have said that, been distracted.

Marnie  Fun meeting folks. :-)



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A group of list members and friends gathered yesterday in the
San Jose area.  Godfrey, Bruce, Marnie, John Francis, John
Celio, Patsy and her friend William, Marco, myself, and some
strange bloke with a peg leg and wearing a black cape  got
together to share stories, take pictures, exchange and share
equipment, and have a good time.

We all got along well, although we asked Godfrey to leave early
as he was creating a fuss with the caped stranger.
I don't recall seeing that individual. I suspect you had a bit too much 
ingera. Or was it the cheesecake? ;-)

Overall we had a great time ;-))
That much is certainly true.
It was a fine day. I first met John Celio on the front steps of the 
museum ... of course, neither of us had read the part of the message 
that said to meet in the parking lot. No matter, I took several 
pictures there that I like.

Folks walked around to retrieve us, we then joined the group. The sun 
was somewhat bright and harsh for what I'd prefer but I did what I 
could with it. John Francis showed me his MX and MZ-S ... lovely 
cameras, I'm still drawn to an MZ-S but I don't know if I would ever 
use it. That film stuff is kinda icky.

Much entertaining banter and chatter ensued through the morning. We 
then went to my friends' cafe/restaurant in downtown SJ, Star Mars, and 
ordered up a good lunch. Lots more banter and discussion.

I had to head to an appointment early so I missed the later park and 
Japanese garden visits, dinner. Some people shots would have been fun. 
I've been busy since with moving (have three weeks to disinter 14 years 
of living in this apartment...) so I haven't posted anything from the 
event as yet, but I'll see what I can do today.

Thanks everyone for the great time!
Godfrey


Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/7/2005 9:25:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Inside, it will likely be a standard 2.5 inch hard disk. If removed and
placed into an external hard drive enclosure (like a LaCie Pocket Drive)
it would probably be recognised. If you took it to a disk recovery shop,
that's what they might do.




Cheers,
  Cotty
===
Thanks. Yeah, that is what I was thinking, though I was not exactly sure how 
they would do it, but that sounds right. I probably will end up doing that. I 
think the drive is okay it is just everything else that is shot.

Marnie   Thanks again.



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
There may not be a direct connection between the drive itself and the 
usb port.  Probably have to go through whatever part of the system is 
cooked to get to the drive.

Cotty wrote:
On 7/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
 

I am sure the images are okay. It's the menus that aren't working and it 
won't turn off when I push the on/off button. I have it hooked up to the
computer 
through the USB slot, because that is the only way I can get it to turn off. 
   

Surely if you can hook up via USB, then can you mount the device on your
desktop (or whatever the process is called on a PC) and access the hard
drive that way?

Cheers,
 Cotty
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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
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Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

>Not when it doesn't show up on the PC as a connected device and the menus on 
>the ImageTank don't work.
>
>I've written JOBO a complaint letter and mentioned I am bad mouthing them to 
>a lot of photographers. ;-) We shall see what happens.
>
>Fingers crossed.

Hmm, maybe it needs a driver, or the computer can't see the hard drive
past the proprietary electronics.

Inside, it will likely be a standard 2.5 inch hard disk. If removed and
placed into an external hard drive enclosure (like a LaCie Pocket Drive)
it would probably be recognised. If you took it to a disk recovery shop,
that's what they might do.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
It depends on why it's cooked.  If there's a problem in the electronics 
of the hard drive itself there's no way any software alone will recover 
data.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Aren't there some recovery programs you could try?
Shel 

 

[Original Message]
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   


 

Well, it seems my ImageTank just went belly up (the screen is lit, but
   

there 
 

is no information on it), so that means all my photos up until the
   

Japanese 
 

Garden are lost. I must say the ImageTank is one of the worst purchase I
   

have 
 

ever made. (I am thinking of taking it to a computer shop that recovers 
information from damaged hard drives, since basically it is the same
   

thing. Or I might 
 

let it go, none of my photos were that great.) This is about only the
   

fourth 
 

time I have used it. (Actually, I may unscrew the cover myself.)
   


 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/7/2005 9:17:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Surely if you can hook up via USB, then can you mount the device on your
desktop (or whatever the process is called on a PC) and access the hard
drive that way?



Cheers,
  Cotty
==
Not when it doesn't show up on the PC as a connected device and the menus on 
the ImageTank don't work.

I've written JOBO a complaint letter and mentioned I am bad mouthing them to 
a lot of photographers. ;-) We shall see what happens.

Fingers crossed.

Marnie



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

>I am sure the images are okay. It's the menus that aren't working and it 
>won't turn off when I push the on/off button. I have it hooked up to the
>computer 
>through the USB slot, because that is the only way I can get it to turn off. 

Surely if you can hook up via USB, then can you mount the device on your
desktop (or whatever the process is called on a PC) and access the hard
drive that way?



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/7/2005 8:23:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Aren't there some recovery programs you could try?

Shel 

I am sure the images are okay. It's the menus that aren't working and it 
won't turn off when I push the on/off button. I have it hooked up to the 
computer 
through the USB slot, because that is the only way I can get it to turn off. 
So it's a matter of getting at the hard disk without going through their 
system. I don't think I can do that myself. Unless I open it and find some way 
to 
get at it, but I doubt it. I am thinking of writing the manufacturer and 
complaining. Not that it will do any good. It's been over six months since I 
bought 
it, I just haven't used it that often.

I could tell them I am bad mouthing them to a whole group of photographers, 
though. Hehehe.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Aren't there some recovery programs you could try?

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Well, it seems my ImageTank just went belly up (the screen is lit, but
there 
> is no information on it), so that means all my photos up until the
Japanese 
> Garden are lost. I must say the ImageTank is one of the worst purchase I
have 
> ever made. (I am thinking of taking it to a computer shop that recovers 
> information from damaged hard drives, since basically it is the same
thing. Or I might 
> let it go, none of my photos were that great.) This is about only the
fourth 
> time I have used it. (Actually, I may unscrew the cover myself.)




Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/7/2005 8:10:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hmmm ... I counted five film cameras and five digi cameras.

Shel 
=
Well, it seems my ImageTank just went belly up (the screen is lit, but there 
is no information on it), so that means all my photos up until the Japanese 
Garden are lost. I must say the ImageTank is one of the worst purchase I have 
ever made. (I am thinking of taking it to a computer shop that recovers 
information from damaged hard drives, since basically it is the same thing. Or 
I might 
let it go, none of my photos were that great.) This is about only the fourth 
time I have used it. (Actually, I may unscrew the cover myself.)

:-(

I have a few photos from the Japanese Gardens which I will post later, 
though. But nothing great.

Marnie aka Doe



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hmmm ... I counted five film cameras and five digi cameras.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: John Celio 

> P.S.: I shot entirely on film, which should be developed tomorrow or the 
> next day, but I'm curious where all the digital photos are.  The majority
of 
> cameras at the gathering were digital.  Anyone got some good ones to post?




Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Who was it that said, "the only thing worse than being talked about is
>~not~ being talked about"?

Oscar Wilde. Right before he said "Your majesty is like a big jam
doughnut with cream on top."

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/7/2005 12:43:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's made from a millet-like
grain called tef, which is native to Ethiopia, although I think it may
be grown in the USA as well and sold through health food stores (it's
gluten-free). Here, if you can't get genuine injera the substitute is
nowhere near as good as the real thing.

Cheers,
Bob

===

The owner of the restaurant, or the chef, or possibly both, came by and told 
me (why me, I have no idea) that it was imported. That tef is not grown in the 
US at all. Actually, at the time, I had no idea what he was talking about and 
thought maybe he was coughing or something (although I smiled and nodded 
intelligently). 

Now I know.

Truthfully I found the "sponge" bread truly weird. Not necessarily bad, but I 
kept having the feeling I was eating a piece of thin foam -- possibly torn 
off someone's lawn furniture -- from the padding under the vinyl. Lawn 
furniture 
that had been out in the rain, since it didn't have that nice new yellow foam 
look, but sort of a rotting, too-old, ready-to-fall-apart foam look.

Never say I am not a good sport. Especially in the service of a PDML meet.


Marnie aka Doe :-)



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Bob W
Hi,

> That's pretty much what we did.  Godfrey (who suggested the place)
> is known there.  In fact they apparently don't offer the sponge
> bread platter on Saturdays, but but somebody went out specially
> to pick up the bread so we could sample the fare.

Some of the Ethiopian restaurants here in London have the 'flat bread'
(injera) flown in daily from Ethiopia. It's made from a millet-like
grain called tef, which is native to Ethiopia, although I think it may
be grown in the USA as well and sold through health food stores (it's
gluten-free). Here, if you can't get genuine injera the substitute is
nowhere near as good as the real thing.

Having said that though, there are endless different varieties of it
in Ethiopia, and sometimes it's really horrible.

I ought to dig out & scan some photos of a deacon handing round a
particularly dark variety of it to people at a church service as
communion bread. I also have some photos of women sitting outside the
church during the service, grinding the tef before making the injera.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/7/2005 12:22:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm waiting to see who pays up before making the final edit.

-Marco
==
LOL!

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-07 Thread Marco Alpert
On Mar 6, 2005, at 11:25 PM, John Celio wrote:
I'm curious where all the digital photos are.  The majority of cameras 
at the gathering were digital.  Anyone got some good ones to post?
I'm waiting to see who pays up before making the final edit.
   -Marco


Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
  For me, it was the people that made the Japanese garden interesting.

You'll see some digi pics soon enough, I'm sure.  Mine are at the Dayton
Lab now, being transcribed to disk.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: John Celio 

> The garden itself was very well kept, though I found 
> it hard to find subjects I liked that weren't full of people, or too 
> contrasty from the direct sunlight.  




Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread John Celio
Ok, so here's my rundown of Saturday's events:
We met at the Rosicrucian Egyptian Museum in San Jose 
(http://www.egyptianmuseum.org/).  After a round of show-and-tell in the 
parking lot with prints, cameras and lenses and such, we headed over to the 
museum grounds for the first shots of the day.  I discovered quickly I was 
carrying too much equipment, with my 6x7, MX, Auto110 and a backpack full of 
stuff, but couldn't decide what to leave behind.  Everyone else seemed so 
much more comfortable than me.  (;

Anyway.  I don't think anyone bothered going into the museum, as the grounds 
were photogenic enough on their own, and they were free.  Much chatting was 
had as we strolled around, snapping away with our various cameras.  It was a 
lovely day, though the lack of any clouds made photography difficult at 
times.

For lunch we went to a very interesting Ethiopian restaurant a couple miles 
from the museum.  The owner seemed to have a strange obsession with Mars 
(anyone remember the name of the place?).  Food was very good, in my 
opinion.  Some sort of meat sampler on this really cool spongy bread wrap 
thing (Godfrey ordered for everyone).  I wish I could describe it better, 
because it was actually quite good.  Nice conversation there, including 
interrogating yours truly about photo industry stuff I don't really know a 
whole lot about.  Godfrey had to leave at this point, unfortunately.

Next stop was farther away: Kelley Park 
(http://www.sanjoseca.gov/prns/regionalparks/kp/kpindex.htm), where the 
Historical Park and Japanese Friendship Gardens are located.

The Historical park was very nice.  Lots of mid- and late-1800s buildings 
restored and staffed with period-dressed people to educate visitors (and 
occasionally sell stuff).  There was a working trolley, a working print 
shop, ice cream parlor, dentist's office, blacksmith, and lots more.  It was 
something like a small Rennaissance Faire, but, um, a different time period, 
and more historical than hippies selling stuff.  Not many people there that 
day, which made it easier to take pictures, but also made it feel like some 
sort of well-kept ghost town.  The "OPEN" flags gently waving in front of 
some buildings seemed so lonesome, I went in some of them just to give the 
employees something to do.  I got sidetracked by the guys in the print shop, 
who were not only talented printers (something I've done in the past), but 
were both into photography too.

By this time, sunset was only a couple hours away, so we headed over to the 
Japanese Friendship Garden.  As far as Japanese gardens go, it wasn't as 
nice as San Francisco's, but it was much bigger.  It was also where everyone 
else in town was; there were families everywhere.  The risk of little 
children underfoot was always present, but at least most of 'em were cute 
and not troublemakers.  The garden itself was very well kept, though I found 
it hard to find subjects I liked that weren't full of people, or too 
contrasty from the direct sunlight.  Fortunately, there were plenty of PDML 
conversations to join in on.  The whole day, really.  Everyone seemed to get 
along very well.

As dusk approached, we decided it was time for dinner and caravanned to a 
chinese restaurant near where John Francis lives (which made it easier for 
him to go get his wife).  More good food and good conversation.  Marnie had 
to leave a little early, and missed out on her fortune cookie.

In the end, it was a great day of photography and friendship.  Good food, 
good people, good photos.

Good night,  (;
John Celio
P.S.: I shot entirely on film, which should be developed tomorrow or the 
next day, but I'm curious where all the digital photos are.  The majority of 
cameras at the gathering were digital.  Anyone got some good ones to post?

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http://www.newpixel.net
AIM: Neopifex
"Hey, I'm an artist.  I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a 
statement." 




Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread John Francis
frank theriault mused:
> 
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 16:57:35 -0800, Shel Belinkoff
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'll put you in touch with the owner of the Ethiopian restaurant where we
> > had lunch.  If I were you I wouldn't believe a word from anyone at the
> > meeting, especially me.
> > 
> 
> O...
> 
> I ~love~ Ethiopian.  Eating with your fingers and all, scooping up
> food with that delicious warm flat-bread.  M!
> 
> We used to have a really good Ethiopian place in our neighbourhood,
> but they closed down.  We got to know the owner/cook a bit, and we'd
> never ask for the menu.  We'd just say, "bring us an assorted platter,
> and tell us what it is when it gets here".  It was great stuff,
> always.

That's pretty much what we did.  Godfrey (who suggested the place)
is known there.  In fact they apparently don't offer the sponge
bread platter on Saturdays, but but somebody went out specially
to pick up the bread so we could sample the fare.



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread Mark Erickson
I'm sorry I missed it.  On the other hand, I spent an amazingly enjoyable
(also taxing) two days at a photo workshop at the Gladding, McBean pottery
factory instead.  Truly an amazing place.  I'll get some stuff up on the web
as I process it

--Mark



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 20:16:32 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> BTW, none of this is true. At all. Okay, Godfrey did leave early and Shel did
> use Bruce's 2nd D, but nothing, absolutely, nothing else is true. Macro,
> remember, I'll be mailing you that check.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe ;-)

No worries.  Whether you were or weren't talking about me, or anyone
else, doesn't bother me.  I'd think it would be natural to talk about
others on the list when there's a PDML get together.  We do here in
Toronto (but only nice things, of course, because we're Canadian, and
we're polite ).

Who was it that said, "the only thing worse than being talked about is
~not~ being talked about"?



cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 16:57:35 -0800, Shel Belinkoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'll put you in touch with the owner of the Ethiopian restaurant where we
> had lunch.  If I were you I wouldn't believe a word from anyone at the
> meeting, especially me.
> 

O...

I ~love~ Ethiopian.  Eating with your fingers and all, scooping up
food with that delicious warm flat-bread.  M!

We used to have a really good Ethiopian place in our neighbourhood,
but they closed down.  We got to know the owner/cook a bit, and we'd
never ask for the menu.  We'd just say, "bring us an assorted platter,
and tell us what it is when it gets here".  It was great stuff,
always.

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/6/2005 9:38:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A group of list members and friends gathered yesterday in the San Jose
area.  Godfrey, Bruce, Marnie, John Francis, John Celio, Patsy and her
friend William, Marco, myself, and some strange bloke with a peg leg and
wearing a black cape  got together to share stories, take pictures,
exchange and share equipment, and have a good time.  

We all got along well, although we asked Godfrey to leave early as he was
creating a fuss with the caped stranger.  Patsy has a wry sense of humor,
and constantly harangued John Francis, who, at one point, ran home to get
his wife, Wendy, to protect him from the humorous onslaught.

Marnie was her usual charming self, but felt a bit out of the loop since no
one spoke much with her as she's a Canon user.  No way we could let an
"infiltraitor"  participate fully in speculative discussions about
future Pentax camera and lens releases.

Marco was ever the gentleman, quietly taking pictures with his istDs and
showing us the images on the LCD screen.  Most images were unflattering,
and Marco demanded small sums of money in exchange for a promise to keep
them off the list.  He made about $1.75 since most of us didn't care.

John Celio brought his new Pentax 67 and his Pentax 110, both outdated
antiques, but John, for some reason, kept showing them off.  This is the
digital age, John, let's get with the program.

Bruce, and to a lesser extent, John and Godfrey, earnestly tried to enable
me to the digital side by showing me all the features and benefits if the
two Pentax DSLR cameras.  Bruce was especially pushy as he insisted I use
one of his istD's for the entire day, which I did along with a variety of
K-mount, A-series, and auto focus lenses.  Nice try, Bruce. I just ordered
a Leica M4  pffft! to digital 

Over dinner we mostly discussed other list members, and had especially good
laughs when discussing Frank, Bill Robb, and, since he left early, Godfrey,
as well.as other list participants.

Overall we had a great time ;-))

Shel 

BTW, none of this is true. At all. Okay, Godfrey did leave early and Shel did 
use Bruce's 2nd D, but nothing, absolutely, nothing else is true. Macro, 
remember, I'll be mailing you that check.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'll put you in touch with the owner of the Ethiopian restaurant where we
had lunch.  If I were you I wouldn't believe a word from anyone at the
meeting, especially me.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: frank theriault 
>
> Yes, my ears were burning yesterday.I want a full report,
> from someone I trust.  I just can't figure out who I trust of that
> group.  
>
> Glad you guys and gals had a great time.  Thanks for the report, Shel.




Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 09:37:26 -0800, Shel Belinkoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Nice try, Bruce. I just ordered
> a Leica M4  pffft! to digital 

Excellent!!  An M4!  Tell me all about it!  (off list, if necessary).
> 
> Over dinner we mostly discussed other list members, and had especially good
> laughs when discussing Frank, Bill Robb, and, since he left early, Godfrey,
> as well.as other list participants.
>

Yes, my ears were burning yesterday.I want a full report,
from someone I trust.  I just can't figure out who I trust of that
group.  

Glad you guys and gals had a great time.  Thanks for the report, Shel.

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread Juan Buhler
Great report Shel, thanks for that. I would have loved to attend, but
alas, I had to work yesterday.
Next time.

j

-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog



Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread mike wilson
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
"infiltraitor" 
Love it!
m


Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It would have been great to meet you, Joe ... we talked about doing this
again some time soon, so maybe next time.  It really was fun.  I hope the
report -0 if one can call it that -  captures the light-hearted camaraderie
that took place.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Joseph Tainter 
>
> I'd have loved to be there, in part because that area is my home.
>
> Thanks for the report, Shel.
>
> Joe




Re: NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread Joseph Tainter
I'd have loved to be there, in part because that area is my home.
Thanks for the report, Shel.
Joe